RE: [newbie] Server 'dumb' clients
Thanks Steve
I have joined the extensive list of people you have generously shared your
knowledge with.
I was aware of the Mandrake 486 issue and am planning to use RH 5.2 or 6.0.
Another question - if I have a 486 machine with compatible soundcard, can a
programme running on the server feed its audio output to the 486 client?
Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Steve Philp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Server 'dumb' clients
Aaron deRozario wrote:
Thank you all for your advice - I am looking at MuLinux and VNC at the
moment. In my current setup I have a 1gig hard drive that currently
holds
an unused Win95. I am thinking of getting rid of this and using it for
Linux instead. I am thinking of perhaps installing this drive on one of
the
486's.
Please remember that Mandrake doesn't run on 486's. Just a warning so
you're not frustrated when you can't get it to work!
There is one aspect that I am not sure I completely understand - the
question is probably more academic than anything else - but I'm always
eager
to learn more. Can X-windows be used to display information from a
programme that is being run on a remote machine? Could the 486, using
X,
just display the graphical information of Applix, being run on the
server?
From the responses I am presuming the answer is yes. Is this so?
(sorry I
am a newbie)
Yes, of course. I previously owned an old Sun 3/50 machine. Not much
was ever going to run very well on that machine, so I used it just as a
display for applications that ran on my more powerful Linux machine.
All in all, it was a nice setup until the 19" monitor blew up like the
4th of July!
The potential practical application is the GF and I are forever wanting
to
type letters/assignments/etc at the same time - the old 486 could then
be
useful.
We can play networked games of Civ - CTP (this is her idea - she
believes
she can kick my arse) - the old 486 could then be fun.
Does the same server/client principal work for SVGAlib (maybe leading to
networked Quake sessions one day in the future)?
That's a completely different thing at that point. You run a quake
server on the Linux machine, then connect to it with Quake clients. The
SVGAlib version on the 486 and the X version on the larger machine.
If I can use the 486 to run remote applications would I need to use a
100Mbs
network or will 10 suffice?
The only thing that will be coming over the network is just display
information. You should be fine with 10.
When operating like this does the filesystem on the client machine (486)
use
symlinks to the directories on the server (with the exception of
essential
local files I assume) - eg does /opt become a symlink to {ip address of
server}/opt
They're completely separate typically. The 486 has it's own
installation of software separate from the bigger machine.
You CAN, however, link them together. Say you get ready to install
Linux on that 486, but realize that it just doesn't have the HD space
that you'd like. Well, you can share applications between the two, so
mount the big machine's /usr directory onto the 486's filesystem.
I have not discounted using MuLinux or VNC - just trying to learn a bit
more. I also realise that it might be cheaper to buy a new MB for the
486
cases and be able to run everything locally, however part of the
excercise
is to set up a LAN.
And what better way to realize all of the completely cool things you can
do with Unix that just aren't possible under Windows! You can't
typically run your application on one machine and display it on another
under Windows, you can't run diskless clients easily under Windows, but
you can under Linux.
There's a really big competitive advantage to running operating systems
that allow you to tailor your setup to your available resources. Want
to run Netscape on the 486, but there's not enough memory? Use the
server to run it and leave the 486 dedicated to displaying the output.
It'll be plenty fast at that. People are fighting tooth and nail about
thin-clients and this and that, but it all comes back to the fact that
they're talking about technology that the Unix world has had available
for 20 years! Those thin-clients are X terminals in disguise!
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Linux / Changing video cards / modifying system settings
Hi Carl. We are in almost the same scene. However, mine is an SiS6326/ATI Rage IIC AGP video cards (8MBs each). I am using a generic SVGA monitor (PnP type). I've tried everything with xf86config and i am about to pull everything what's left of my hair. I posted my problem a week ago and I am yet to read a better solutions/recommendations from here. -Original Message- From: Carl Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 2:39 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux / Changing video cards / modifying system settings Good evening to all. I recently got a copy of Linux-Mandrake (v6.0) and, decided to load it this weekend, on a PC rebuild out of parts I have laying around my garage, to learn and eventually, migrate out of Windows entirely. During the installation process and when it was time to setup the video card and monitor type, the installation program "detected" a S3 type of video card (when in effect, is an old Number9 PCI 1Mb video card). The monitor is a "generic svga" and I configured it as the "non-interlaced SVGA" option, offered by the setup program. After that, it decided that I couldn't run X in nothing else but 640x480x256 mode, no matter what. This is having an adverse effect on my attempts to reconfigure my KDE display, as I loose the ability to access the bottom portions of some configuration displays that have their buttons on the bottom of the window. I even tried to resize the window but, that didn't work either. I suspect that the video card being used is the culprit and, I plan to purchase a video card that is supported by linux, with video resolutions greater than 640x480 and 16M colors at least. My questions and concerns are: . How do I stop X from starting up (and eventually chocking due to hardware conflict, when I change video cards?) . What video card do you recomend? I plan to use this PC for web browsing, email correspondance, perl programming and image manipulation. I have no interest in games of any king (well, except for doom). .What is the name of the utility to reconfigure X? I thank you in advance. -Carl
Re: [newbie] Hopefully Last problem.
I'm not quite sure what you are asking? [caymen@localhost]$ is what you would see after logging in correctly, and your box is waiting for you to tell it what to do. Try typing startx If this answer is relevent to your question, then I STRONGLY suggest you purchase a few linux howto books :) Ben - Original Message - From: Caymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:59 AM Subject: [newbie] Hopefully Last problem. I finally got Linux to load using boot magic (had to make it easy for sis to start Win98 if she needs to print some homework) Well, when I used to try to boot Linux using a floppy, I got an error like: Freeing unused Kernel memory: 48K freed Warning:Unable to open an initial console Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel Now if I start it through Boot Magic everything loads until I get to the Penguin Screen (I assume it is the start screen) I identifies itself saying: Linux Version 2.2.9-27MDK Compiled #1 Man Jun 14 16:44"05 CEST 1999 One 450 MHz AMD K6-3 Processor, 128 MB RAM 897.84 Bogomips Total localhost.localdomain Then, below the penguin it says: Linux Mandrake Release 6.0 (Venus) localhost login I tried my user login name and pass work Linux asks when loading and type in my password I get: [caymen@localhost]$ I try typing in "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and hit enter...Nothing. If I dont first type in my user name for Linux (The one you make when installing) and just type in my ISP email address/username and password, it will keep asking the same question: localhost login If I type in my user name for Linux, I get" [caymen@localhost]$ Please help me. I am so close, yet so far away. TIA Tom
[newbie] startx for some users
I'd like to set things up so that when certain users login, the system checks for the next available X server and then calls startx for them. How would it be best to do this, and what would the script look like. cheers. James. -- James Stewart | Britlinks | The Phantom Tollbooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.britlinks.co.uk | http://www.tollbooth.org Sixpence None The Richer UK -- http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/
Re: [newbie] Superdisk
Considering Superdisks don't use floppy connectors, they're in fact IDE devices, this designation seems perfectly logical. Now the problem I have is not being able to make a boot disk during install through the superdisk, as you can't type any commands to mount the device during install!!! I have got around it, but it would be interesting to see what people say about it! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Superdisk On 12 Sep 99, at 16:53, Rommel Barbosa wrote: It's a hd? device not a fd? device. You could link it to fdo, that might work. Joe Hi. I installed Linux Mandrake in my computer that has a superdisk (120MB) instead of a regular floppy disk drive. I am not able to mount the floppy. Does anybody know how can I mount the superdisk drive? Thanks, Rommel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] fxp
File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Oracle OAS 4.0.7 CD install
I have downloaded the OAS 407 from Oracle for the Linux platform, and am now having trouble getting it on to CD. My burner is on a Windows machine, so I am using Winzip to uncompress and ungzip the files, and have hit a problem. In the MAN3 directory, there are files that have '::' in the filenames, obviously windows is not impressed with this. Is there any way round this? Are the files in the MAN3 directory needed for working, or are they just help files? Is there anyone out there who's worked with OAS for Linux?
[newbie] scsi
Hello, Can someone plz give me the line i need to put in my lilo conf to get my cdr to work. I know it's append??? plz help. thanks Ralph -- *** Where Ever Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow ***
Re: [newbie] Description of Packages
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, alann wrote: I was wondering "WHAT" file in Mandrake ( or RH for that matter ) contains all the package descriptions that you get upon install. In other words, when you install either you have the choice of making broad package installs or installing EVERY package manually. When you do this you can hit F1 on every package and see a "description" of what it does. The descriptions are contained in the rpm packages. This is got to be in a file SOMEWHERE. Just wondering if anyone knows 'cause I would sure like to print it out and see whats on my system hidden Two possibilities: rpm -qpi /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/*.rpm |less This will print the list for all RPMs on the CD. for i in `rpm -qa`; do rpm -qi $i; done |less gives you a list of all the RPMs you installed. If you want to print them to a printer instead of the screen, replace "less" with "lpr". LLaP bero
[newbie] init and colorlevel
Thanks to Ken, Steve, Matt, and others for their assistance with that last one. Amazing how stupid mistakes make everything harder. I kept editing the wrong monitor section and couldn't understand why it wasn't working. Later, David "Without the Law, there is no Liberty. Without Justice, there is no Law."
[newbie] Recommendations for network cards
Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Simon
Re: [newbie] Server 'dumb' clients
Aaron deRozario wrote:
Thanks Steve
I have joined the extensive list of people you have generously shared your
knowledge with.
I was aware of the Mandrake 486 issue and am planning to use RH 5.2 or 6.0.
Another question - if I have a 486 machine with compatible soundcard, can a
programme running on the server feed its audio output to the 486 client?
I know it's possible using esound (the sound server used by GNOME). I
don't know if kaudioserver (used by KDE) is able to do it.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Philp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Server 'dumb' clients
Aaron deRozario wrote:
Thank you all for your advice - I am looking at MuLinux and VNC at the
moment. In my current setup I have a 1gig hard drive that currently
holds
an unused Win95. I am thinking of getting rid of this and using it for
Linux instead. I am thinking of perhaps installing this drive on one of
the
486's.
Please remember that Mandrake doesn't run on 486's. Just a warning so
you're not frustrated when you can't get it to work!
There is one aspect that I am not sure I completely understand - the
question is probably more academic than anything else - but I'm always
eager
to learn more. Can X-windows be used to display information from a
programme that is being run on a remote machine? Could the 486, using
X,
just display the graphical information of Applix, being run on the
server?
From the responses I am presuming the answer is yes. Is this so?
(sorry I
am a newbie)
Yes, of course. I previously owned an old Sun 3/50 machine. Not much
was ever going to run very well on that machine, so I used it just as a
display for applications that ran on my more powerful Linux machine.
All in all, it was a nice setup until the 19" monitor blew up like the
4th of July!
The potential practical application is the GF and I are forever wanting
to
type letters/assignments/etc at the same time - the old 486 could then
be
useful.
We can play networked games of Civ - CTP (this is her idea - she
believes
she can kick my arse) - the old 486 could then be fun.
Does the same server/client principal work for SVGAlib (maybe leading to
networked Quake sessions one day in the future)?
That's a completely different thing at that point. You run a quake
server on the Linux machine, then connect to it with Quake clients. The
SVGAlib version on the 486 and the X version on the larger machine.
If I can use the 486 to run remote applications would I need to use a
100Mbs
network or will 10 suffice?
The only thing that will be coming over the network is just display
information. You should be fine with 10.
When operating like this does the filesystem on the client machine (486)
use
symlinks to the directories on the server (with the exception of
essential
local files I assume) - eg does /opt become a symlink to {ip address of
server}/opt
They're completely separate typically. The 486 has it's own
installation of software separate from the bigger machine.
You CAN, however, link them together. Say you get ready to install
Linux on that 486, but realize that it just doesn't have the HD space
that you'd like. Well, you can share applications between the two, so
mount the big machine's /usr directory onto the 486's filesystem.
I have not discounted using MuLinux or VNC - just trying to learn a bit
more. I also realise that it might be cheaper to buy a new MB for the
486
cases and be able to run everything locally, however part of the
excercise
is to set up a LAN.
And what better way to realize all of the completely cool things you can
do with Unix that just aren't possible under Windows! You can't
typically run your application on one machine and display it on another
under Windows, you can't run diskless clients easily under Windows, but
you can under Linux.
There's a really big competitive advantage to running operating systems
that allow you to tailor your setup to your available resources. Want
to run Netscape on the 486, but there's not enough memory? Use the
server to run it and leave the 486 dedicated to displaying the output.
It'll be plenty fast at that. People are fighting tooth and nail about
thin-clients and this and that, but it all comes back to the fact that
they're talking about technology that the Unix world has had available
for 20 years! Those thin-clients are X terminals in disguise!
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Bypassing X windows
Dan Brown wrote: From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] telinit 3 What's the difference between this and "init 3"? Not a darn thing! Heck, they even share a manpage! :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] fxp
Simon Norris wrote: File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! Actually, the Igloo statement confused the issue for me. I thought it was some sort of new-fangled, script kiddie secure FTP transfer protocol. As for good FTP programs for Linux, I've always been a fan of ncftp. It's command-line, but it works extremely well. I'm not as fond about the new full-scrolling-screen interface, I rather liked the command-line at the bottom that was previously there. - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Starter Questions
Hi, I an newbie to Linux (2 out of 10 on the learning curve), although I have a good technical background in MS operating systems. I have been trying to install/upgrade a pc with Linux-Mandrake 6.0 and am having a few problems. I would be greatful for any suggestions/insights on the following points. The system was previously installed with Win95, I then managed to install RedHat Linux 5.1 and get Lilo to manage the dual boot quite happily. 5.1 seemed to have some problems with my network/graphics hardware so I never took that version any further. After seeing recent reviews of RedHat 6.0 I decided to give linux another go. I deleted and re-created the three linux partitions on the hard disk, ran the standard Linux-Mandrake install and all worked well. I also created a Linux boot disk as part of the installation. Problems: 1) Lilo just lies low. I had hoped that the Lilo that I installed with RedHat 5.1 would keep working, now when I boot the PC from the hard disk it just displays LI (I assume from the LILO prompt) and the PC hangs. I can boot Linux from the boot disk that was created during the install, but I can't get to my old Win95 setup. How might I fix this? 2) X just won't get along with my graphics card. I have a Hercules Terminator 128 3D graphics card in this PC (It was on special offer at the store). It has the S3 Trio 3D chipset. It's not directly supported in the Linux-Mandrake installation, but I had expected to be able to get a standard VGA / SVGA display running. I must have been through XConfigurator 20 times by now, trying different options, but whenever I try to StartX I just get error messages. Does any one have any experience with this board or is there some way to do a standard VGA/SVGA install for X? Thanks In Advance Marko [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards
3Com 3C509b or Intel Pro(100) which is a bit more. I have had no trouble with either. If someone as dangerous at a keyboard as I has no trouble, noboby should. Bryan "Simon Norris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/99 06:57:16 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Simon
Re: [newbie] scsi
If you are talking about SCSI emulation to burn some CDs check out my web site. I wrote up what I did to get it to work. The URL is: http://www.midkan.com/paulb/mycdr.htm PBen On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:49:57 -0400, Ralph|byte-runner| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Can someone plz give me the line i need to put in my lilo conf to get my cdr to work. I know it's append??? plz help. thanks Ralph -- *** Where Ever Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow ***
[newbie] Closing licq when I close kpp
Anyone know how I can get kpp to close licq when I close kpp? I got it to open, but not close automagically. TIA, -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713
[newbie] file boot order
Can anyone tell me what files / directories are read ( and in what order ) when you boot and then log in? (understandably custom not included - although when are they called) Just trying to understand the operating system. It doesn't do me any good to use something I don't understand. Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH
Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards
I bought a LinkSys card cheaply(£20) from PC World. It was picked up by RedHat 6.0 installer straight away. Although it may have been a PCI card, can't remember. I would think that any NE2000 compatible card would be OK, and should be very cheap. I have the same question about graphics - I can't get my non-supported Hercules Terminator 128 3D to work with X. Regards Mark From: "Simon Norris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:57:16 +0100 Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Simon __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Install freeze
- Original Message - From: Donny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:04 AM Subject: [newbie] Install freeze Hey everyone! I've installed Linux a number of times on my computer, fairly easily. But I recently picked up a P60, that i want to give totally to Linux. It doesnt have a bootable cd-rom drive, so I made install disk's. It loads the linux kernel, but when it gets to the spot where it starts the installation (the last line that says "running install"), it jus stops. Why is it doing this? and how can I get Linux installed? HELP! Thanks in advance! The most likely solution is to get an updated boot image from the updates section on a Mandrake ftp mirror. (Use plain text to send messages to this list and save yourself a tongue-lashing.) Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] Linux RPM, how to open.
- Original Message - From: alann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux RPM, how to open. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, cool. Make sure that the /etc/lilo.conf line looks exactly like this: append="mem=64M" Also, after you check that or make the changes, run /sbin/lilo to write the boot block back out with the updates. Maybe that got missed after the previous change? Okay, new problem. KDE seems to crash on me a lot (I was working with kpackage). After one crash, I was working with the PPP interface, when suddenly, the shell crashed on me with a big stack error. When I reboot, it checks the hard disks, then it says, "/dev/hd1: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 22600:/dev/hd1: and it lists off a lot of other blocks with a similar label. After a bunch of errors, it concludes with, "/dev/hd1: UNEXPECTED CONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e. without -a or -p options) In red, it concludes with, [FAILED]. Basically, it's a corrupted filesystem, I think. So how do I run fsck and fix it? -- do the cntl-d thing when it gives you the option then: /sbin/fsck /hdx1 where x should be like a or b depending if its the master drive or a secondary drive. Point is you're missing a letter when you say /dev/hd1 it should be /dev/hda1 or something.. === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0 Also update your kernel and initscripts to avoid these problems in the future (I believe you said you were using the original kernel). Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] fxp
From: Ronald A. Yacketta If I recall correctly fxp is similiar to ftp but different. fxp is used in the warez community alot, it allows person A to connect to person B and transfer to person C why?? havent figured that one out as of yet, I am not into warez *evil grin* Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/99 07:37:01 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Simon Norris wrote: File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! Actually, the Igloo statement confused the issue for me. I thought it was some sort of new-fangled, script kiddie secure FTP transfer protocol. As for good FTP programs for Linux, I've always been a fan of ncftp. It's command-line, but it works extremely well. I'm not as fond about the new full-scrolling-screen interface, I rather liked the command-line at the bottom that was previously there. - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Bypassing X windows
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, you wrote: I installed linux so that the X windows logon comes on automatically. How do I bypass this and go directly to the shell logon? At the LILO prompt, type "linux 3" minus quotes, of course. If you want it to PERMANENTLY change to booting to console, go in as root and edit your /etc/inittab and change where it says "id:5:initdefault: " to "id:3:initdefault:" John
Re: [newbie] BW Netscape
on 22:00 12/09/1999 +, pete moss,wrote i am running a s3 virge gx2 chipset with the svga x server. :P Are you bragging or complaining? ;-)
Re: [newbie] iso
Kodak CDs are of much better quality than Maxells. You are probably better of paying a little more for the Kodak CDs and avoiding a lot of burn time on your CD-R. - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] iso PaulHoy wrote: John, I burned it with a Maxell cd, twice. When I tried a Kodak CD, it worked fine. I just picked up a CD-RW burner yesterday, so I'm slowly learning about these things... Is there that much of a difference between vendors? I bought a 16-pack of Maxell CD-Rs and burned my first last night (a "customized" 6.0 disk with all the updates, but a few problems :). Everything worked fine, so I'm happy. Just wondering if I should watch out for some brands of blank media. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installation Freeze
- Original Message - From: Donny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:12 PM Subject: [newbie] Installation Freeze I got it to boot and install mandrake 5.3, but whenever i try running the 6.0 bootdisk, it locks up at "running installer". Why is this? I just answered this yesterday, but it's possible that my e-mail did not get through to the list. Anyway, here it is again: The most likely solution is to get an updated boot image from the updates section on a Mandrake ftp mirror. (Use plain text to send messages to this list and save yourself a tongue-lashing.) Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [[newbie] Starter Questions]
Hi Mark, Not sure about your vid card problem. Is it listed as supported? As far as the boot problem goes, when you deleted your partitions, you did not change your boot record. Lilo is lookinf for your old kernel which of course, no longer exists. Use your boot disk to get in, and as root type /sbin/lilo. That should rerun lilo and allow it to find the new kernel. Next time you reboot, you shouldn't have a problem Mike "Mark Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,brbrI an newbie to Linux (2 out of 10 on the learning curve), although I have a brgood technical background in MS operating systems.brbrI have been trying to install/upgrade a pc with Linux-Mandrake 6.0 and am brhaving a few problems. I would be greatful for any suggestions/insights on brthe following points.brbrThe system was previously installed with Win95, I then managed to install brRedHat Linux 5.1 and get Lilo to manage the dual boot quite happily. 5.1 brseemed to have some problems with my network/graphics hardware so I never brtook that version any further.brbrAfter seeing recent reviews of RedHat 6.0 I decided to give linux another brgo. I deleted and re-created the three linux partitions on the hard disk, brran the standard Linux-Mandrake install and all worked well. I also created bra Linux boot disk as part of the installation.brbrProblems:br1) Lilo just lies low.brI had hoped that the Lilo that I installed with RedHat 5.1 would keep brworking, now when I boot the PC from the hard disk it just displays LI (I brassume from the LILO prompt) and the PC hangs. I can boot Linux from the brboot disk that was created during the install, but I can't get to my old brWin95 setup.brHow might I fix this?brbr2) X just won't get along with my graphics card.brI have a Hercules Terminator 128 3D graphics card in this PC (It was on brspecial offer at the store). It has the S3 Trio 3D chipset. It's not brdirectly supported in the Linux-Mandrake installation, but I had expected to brbe able to get a standard VGA / SVGA display running.brI must have been through XConfigurator 20 times by now, trying different broptions, but whenever I try to StartX I just get error messages.brDoes any one have any experience with this board or is there some way to do bra standard VGA/SVGA install for X?brbrThanks In AdvancebrbrMarkobr[EMAIL PROTECTED]brbrbr__brGet Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.combr Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on your box. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Linux / Changing video cards / modifying system settings
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hi Carl. We are in almost the same scene. However, mine is an SiS6326/ATI Rage IIC AGP video cards (8MBs each). I am using a generic SVGA monitor (PnP type). I've tried everything with xf86config and i am about to pull everything what's left of my hair. I posted my problem a week ago and I am yet to read a better solutions/recommendations from here. The ATI Rage IIc uses a Mach64 X server. Select Mach64 from your Xwindows config. For other video cards, go to www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html to find a list of supported cards. If you don't find EXACTLY your card, try searching for the chipset, which is what I did here... searched the web page for "rage" and it came up with MACH64 Rage IIc. John
Re: [newbie] X problem
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hallo I installed Mandrake 6.0 and everything went fine to the point of running KDE My machine has: diamond stealth 64 vram pci (S3 968) and is recognized with setup and tested OK. This sounds like a video problemor a resource conflict with the sound card. Which video server are you using? According to www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html, you should be using the xf86_s3 x-windows server. sound card is not properly installed (SB 64PCI) You may need to get the drivers for this from http://devloper.soundblaster.com. I'm not sure what else to tell you. What happens if you take the sound card OUT of the system? Does it boot up to KDE OK then? John
Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Kingston DEC-based 10 mb combo ISA cards work just fine. They're recognized as "tulip" cards. The one I bought I got on sale for like $15 here in the US. It's single-speed, 10 Mb. This card will work with either coax or twisted-pair ethernet. I don't recall if it was ISA or PC. Does it HAVE to be ISA??
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
Yes, I have Win98!!! At 11:24 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on your box. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards
The best bang for the buck, or pound in your case, would be the D-Link 10/100 Fast Ethernet model DFE-530TX pci. I paid $46 dollars Canadian for mine at London Drugs, a drug store computer department - go figure. It uses the via-rhine module driver, (and a Linux driver is on the provided floppy, but needs to be compiled) but don't configure it at installation. After Linux is on your machine, use Linuxconf and the inside the Network Configuration goto adapter 1 (or which ever device it is on your machine) at "kernel module" selection, type in "via-rhine" (no quotes) and don't select any other. Save, Quit, Activate and your running. D-link has a really good ISA as well, which I think you're looking for, it would be the D-Link DE-220, simple installation - use the "ne" module signify it's IRQ and its I/O and it works perfect. I think they run $29 CAN retail, if you can find them on the shelf as most only stock 10/100 cards. But you can find this card in a Network Kit by D-Link. Two DE-220's and a 5 port hub for about $169 CAN. I think you may be able to get your present card going though if you go here (I lost the string of emails to know which card you're using): http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ There's just about a configuration for every card available in there, for Linux. I hope that helps, Sean sj.Pritchard Technical Services Vanderhoof, BC CAN http://www.sjptech.com Original Message On 9/13/99, 4:46:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards: 3Com 3C509b or Intel Pro(100) which is a bit more. I have had no trouble with either. If someone as dangerous at a keyboard as I has no trouble, noboby should. Bryan "Simon Norris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/99 06:57:16 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Simon
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
remove mandrake 6.0 from your system and install new mandrake 6.1 thanks William Joe Rochester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition Yes, I have Win98!!! At 11:24 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on your box. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
I would, but I still need to get rid of this half installed Linux partition At 12:50 PM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: remove mandrake 6.0 from your system and install new mandrake 6.1 thanks William Joe Rochester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition Yes, I have Win98!!! At 11:24 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on your box. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [[newbie] Starter Questions]
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hi Mark, Not sure about your vid card problem. Is it listed as supported? As far as the boot problem goes, when you deleted your partitions, you did not change your boot record. Lilo is lookinf for your old kernel which of course, no longer exists. Use your boot disk to get in, and as root type /sbin/lilo. That should rerun lilo and allow it to find the new kernel. Next time you reboot, you shouldn't have a problem Mike According to www.xfree86.org, the Trio3D *still* only works with xf86_vga16 X server. The Trio3D, IMNSHO is NOT supported by Linux. (do you REALLY want a 320x200x16color X??? G) John
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
This seems to be related to Win98/95 and their possessive view of the partition table [not really a disk-guru so I don't know the low level particulars]. I had no luck using LILO in conjunction with Win98 and I eventually went to using System Commander. The best installation order I know of is: wipe all partitions [i know, i know, it sucks] using fdisk create the Win98 partitions [meaning at least one DOS primary partition and probably a FAT32 partition for games, etc] - if you skip this step, then Win98 will try to take over the hard disk completely - and you will have problems installing a non-MS OS on your disk [at least I alway do] install Win98 into the primary FAT 16 partition [I don't think System Commander handles FAT32] At this point you should have a single DOS primary partition and a FAT32 partition. You should now be able to install Linux. However, I would recommend using System Commander: install System Commander use System Commander to install Linux This was the only way I could keep Linux and Win98 happy on the same box. If anyone knows another way around this, then I know some people who are interested... The only reason this works is because System Commander uses the Windows partition to store information about the other OSes. If, magically, Win98 should corrupt another OS's boot information [yes, I once mysteriously lost a working Linux installation], System Commander will go to the Windows partition to recover the information [because that seems to be somewhere that the corruption magically doesn't occur]. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition Yes, I have Win98!!! At 11:24 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on your box. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[newbie] What to do when . . . . .
I have two machines with two physical hard disk drives but I'll just talk about one of them here. Windows ran into some sort of problem and I felt the need to reinstall Windows which I did and I knew it would overwrite LILO which it did. I used the Linux boot disk to boot up with and when it gave me the 'rescue' option I took it but it didn't find the kernel on drive D or hdb as I guess it's called in Linux and the boot didn't go all the way. I ended up reinstalling LM also and redoing the boot disk. So my question is and it may have come up innumerable times before by others so please have patience with me when I ask: When a reinstallation of Windows occurrs on Drive C and it wipes out the LILO program on C, too, I guess, what does the boot disk do about this or does it do anything? And how can I get LILO back in operation when this kind of wipeout happens? Does the 'rescue' disk repair the mbr? Does the boot disk do this? I would like to know. Thank you Richard
[newbie] Installation ???
I'm installing Red hat 6.0 and have come accrossed a question I don't know the answer to. Under Authentication Configuration, should I or should I not "Enable NIS" and is so what is the NIS Domain and then should I use NIS Server - Request via broadcast or use ??? I have a statis IP number and dns pointing to my domain name so I'm not sure as to which route to go. -- James Wadkins General Manager VTAT, Inc. 5429 Valley Wells Way Las Vegas, NV 89113 702-873-0480 702-873-0049 Fax http://www.vtat.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Compiling/Dev Packages
Hi, Bash tells me it doesn´t recognize the "make" command. I assume that is so because I neglected to install development packages at setup... Does anyone know where to find the proper RPMs in the 6.0 dist. cd? Thanks in advance, /Gustavo Viola ß^» --- Ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: [newbie] nfs problems part 2
Hidong Kim wrote: Hi, I tried rebooting my machine to see if that would solve the "mount program not registered" issue. when the machine was shutting down, I noticed an error message saying: rpc.nfsd forgot to set AF_INET in udp sendmsg. Fix it! Would this be causing the problems I'm seeing? And how do I fix it? Thanks, Hidong Hi, I still haven't figured out why one of the machines on my three Linux machine network is not able to nfs mount the partitions on the two other machines. I'm still getting the error: mount: RPC: Program not registered when I try to 'mount -a' on this problem machine. When I do a 'ps aux' on the problem machine, I notice that '(portmap)' and '(inetd)' are listed, in parentheses. On the other two machines which have no problem mounting remote partitions, when I do 'ps aux', I see that 'portmap' and 'inetd' are listed, no parentheses. Would this have any bearing on the problem machine's inability to mount remote partitions? Thanks, Hidong
[newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
[newbie] SuperDisk
hello, Of course I'm a newbie,trying to access my "SuperDisk" or I think the term is "mount" my SuperDisk drive and can't.I've read the other requests for info for the same problem and tried them.They don't seem to work,but then again I'm a newbie. I tried (under root); mount -t vfat /dev/hda(1-6) /mnt (1-6)-- meaning individually Some of the responses were; mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected,mounting read-only mount:wrong fs type,bad option,bad superblock on /dev/fd0,or too many mounted file systems Please can somebody help me make sense of this and help me get my floppy(superDisk) running or mounted? Thanks,Alex
Re: [newbie] How to resume setup?
Even if I've already downloaded everything?!? -Kyle "Orange" Spahn Freespace 2 Lead Descent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com/ E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ # - 22966915 - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to resume setup? Kyle \"Orange\" Spahn wrote: Hey everyone.. I'm a newbie to Linux (that's why i'm on the newbies list) and I think I did something VERY stupid!!! After downloading Mandrake 6.1 over FTP using the boot disk, I started to configure my system and couldn't get my monitor to work as a Custom (mine wasn't listed.. I have a NEC CS500) so I booted to Windows. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to resume the setup program? There is no resume. Sorry, -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] emai
Do some guys of you out there know a good programm to sort my emails in different folders, in my emailprogramm. I#m using PINE Danke
Re: [newbie] fxp
It's whats know as a site to site transfer, it was refined back in the days when you had to bounce crypto to get it out of the US. Theres only one program it's linfXp it should be somewhere on linapps, and it doesn't work that well. You could always do it manualy.. On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Simon Norris wrote: File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! Actually, the Igloo statement confused the issue for me. I thought it was some sort of new-fangled, script kiddie secure FTP transfer protocol. As for good FTP programs for Linux, I've always been a fan of ncftp. It's command-line, but it works extremely well. I'm not as fond about the new full-scrolling-screen interface, I rather liked the command-line at the bottom that was previously there. - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] SuperDisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Sep 99, at 16:36, Alex Bailey wrote: hello, Of course I'm a newbie,trying to access my "SuperDisk" or I think the term is "mount" my SuperDisk drive and can't.I've read the other requests for info for the same problem and tried them.They don't seem to work,but then again I'm a newbie. I tried (under root); mount -t vfat /dev/hda(1-6) /mnt (1-6)-- meaning individually Some of the responses were; mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected,mounting read-only mount:wrong fs type,bad option,bad superblock on /dev/fd0,or too many mounted file systems Please can somebody help me make sense of this and help me get my floppy(superDisk) running or mounted? Thanks,Alex Have you tried a web search? I know this is the newbie list, but it is good etiquette to first look for the anser yourself and then pester the hell out of others:) heres a message on booting: http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/floppy.shtml Some answers: http://ww2.altavista.com/cgi- bin/news?msg@16109@aus%2ecomputers%2elinux and here are some threads out of usenet: http://x24.deja.com/viewthread.xp?AN=513069761search=thread; svcclass=dnoldST=PSCONTEXT=937257596.982712352HIT_C ONTEXT=937257596.982712352HIT_NUM=REDO=1recnum=% 3c7p6sbr$cum$[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3e%231/1group=alt.os.li nuxfrpage=getdoc.xpback=clarinet http://x41.deja.com/viewthread.xp?AN=516016459search=thread; svcclass=dncurrentST=PSCONTEXT=937257402.1917124629 HIT_CONTEXT=937257402.1917124629HIT_NUM=2REDO=1re [EMAIL PROTECTED]%3e%231/1 group=comp.os.linux.miscfrpage=getdoc.xpback=clarinet http://x24.deja.com/viewthread.xp?AN=505021232search=thread; svcclass=dnoldST=PSCONTEXT=937258061.983040102HIT_C ONTEXT=937257596.982712352HIT_NUM=28REDO=1recnum [EMAIL PROTECTED]%3e%231/1group=comp .os.linux.hardwarefrpage=getdoc.xpback=clarinet http://x24.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=469538346search=threadCO NTEXT=937257711.983826480HIT_CONTEXT=937257596.982712 352HIT_NUM=14hitnum=115 Hope this helps. You will get faster and better results doing it for yourself. Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN91sC7/VnK2vTz+fEQIRwgCgwPzyb1YPgys4uTphFrckJImeRRMAnAl0 OKRmun0H8HagJI5twnJqZa4k =x3/R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Sep 99, at 13:25, pol keem wrote: when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com No one will answer you because no one wants to admit that linux freezes up like this. It didn't used to, I have seen enough X crashes but never any lock ups. Not until I started using mandrake and kde/netscape. The problem is the filesystem writes to the hard drive asynchronously to speed up read/writes. If it freezes up before a write, you just lost that information. Async was added because linux was extremely stable and they could get away with it. But now? Do we start mounting hard drives with -o sync? It should not even be freezing in the first place like this. It happened to me and then it happened to some freinds of mine who also installed mandrake. No crt-alt f2 no ctr-alt-bkspc no three finger salute. Anyone else experiencing complete kernel freezes like this? What about in other distro's? If we lose the single selling point of linux(stabillity over the competition) the what remains? Sorry if I seem like a pessimist, Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN91wDr/VnK2vTz+fEQJyjwCgvQDyE+FZ8HK9yT98dihqnvHIeloAoLLY ra6AvmKkhOJobPTJunLm8Pd+ =Zc0e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Superdisk
On my computer at least the superdisk is found on /dev/hdc you will need to check where yours found. You might find it in the start up screen as it scrolls by. You can then create a directory in /mnt called "ls120" or whatever your fancy. You can then mount the superdisk to /mnt/ls120. mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /mnt/ls120 inserting your computers variables for hd"c" and the mount points name. If you modify your fstab in /etc/fstab you can then mount bymount /mnt/ls120 You can also control read-write, user mounts etc in that file. Hope this helps. I am yet to see after changing my bios to mode 3 for A drive so the superdisk is seen as A drive in windows whether this will allow a boot disk to be made. I doubt this as said previous the superdisk is an IDE . You can't stick a disk in /dev/fd0 because for me there is no hardware device on the floppy port. Linux is basically hardware based not software resolved like windows. === Stuart Fraser (STU) [EMAIL PROTECTED] uni [EMAIL PROTECTED] home [EMAIL PROTECTED]web viewable +61 7 38127010 home phone === - Original Message - From: Simon Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Superdisk Considering Superdisks don't use floppy connectors, they're in fact IDE devices, this designation seems perfectly logical. Now the problem I have is not being able to make a boot disk during install through the superdisk, as you can't type any commands to mount the device during install!!! I have got around it, but it would be interesting to see what people say about it! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Superdisk On 12 Sep 99, at 16:53, Rommel Barbosa wrote: It's a hd? device not a fd? device. You could link it to fdo, that might work. Joe Hi. I installed Linux Mandrake in my computer that has a superdisk (120MB) instead of a regular floppy disk drive. I am not able to mount the floppy. Does anybody know how can I mount the superdisk drive? Thanks, Rommel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
- Original Message - From: pol keem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com Get the kernel and initscripts updates from a Mandrake ftp mirror. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] emai
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Markus wrote: Do some guys of you out there know a good programm to sort my emails in different folders, in my emailprogramm. I#m using PINE Danke Procmail if you want to sort it as it comes in. Or grepmail if you'd like to sort it later. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] nfs problems part 2
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: Hidong Kim wrote: Hi, I tried rebooting my machine to see if that would solve the "mount program not registered" issue. when the machine was shutting down, I noticed an error message saying: rpc.nfsd forgot to set AF_INET in udp sendmsg. Fix it! Would this be causing the problems I'm seeing? And how do I fix it? Thanks, Hidong Hi, I still haven't figured out why one of the machines on my three Linux machine network is not able to nfs mount the partitions on the two other machines. I'm still getting the error: mount: RPC: Program not registered when I try to 'mount -a' on this problem machine. When I do a 'ps aux' on the problem machine, I notice that '(portmap)' and '(inetd)' are listed, in parentheses. On the other two machines which have no problem mounting remote partitions, when I do 'ps aux', I see that 'portmap' and 'inetd' are listed, no parentheses. Would this have any bearing on the problem machine's inability to mount remote partitions? Thanks, Hidong rpcinfo -p broke_boxs_ip, says? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] IT WORKS!!!
--I now have both floppies up and working and am chompin' at the bit for my next Linux challenge. My special thanks to John for pointing me in the right direction. If it's OK with y'all I'd like to post the step by step in case anybody out there needs a really simplistic explanation. 1. First uncheck the default word wrap in Kedit and set the line limit to a high number like 120 or something. Failure to do so will result in your fstab getting all corrupted and messed up. Take extra special caution with the last two lines in fstab, as they don't appear to follow the regular format but seem to be very important if you like booting your system. 2. go to /mnt and create a new folder for the new floppy. Call it Floppy1 or whatever. All the folders in /mnt should be empty, unless something like the cdrom or whatever is mounted, in which case you should see nothing but the folders on that particular cd. Make sure that your Kfm is set to show hidden files. 3. Copy the /dev/fd0 line in fstab but make it /dev/fd1 and be sure to change the mount point column to the name of the new folder that you just created. (you'll need to be root for this part) 4. Reboot, and from the console as user type the command $mount /dev/fd1 and hit enter. Assuming of course that there's a floppy in the drive with data on it, your console should return to the prompt without reporting an error, and you should see your floppy led come on. That's telling you that mount was succesfull, but you aint done yet. 5. login as root. Right click your exiting floppy icon, and choose properties. a multi tab dialog box will come up. Leave it open on the desktop and right click anywhere on the desktop. From the drop down menu choose "create new filesystem device", and a little question mark thingie will appear on your desktop. A dialog simillar to the one already up will appear. Go through it and match all permissions and other settings, making sure to substitute the name of the new device and mount point. at this point you will be able to choose Icons. I took the green floppies that obviously are supposed to be for the old 51/4 floppies, but whatever you like. Some of the KDE icons are really too cool! 6. That's about it, after testing of course, and you'll have to repeat step 5 in user, and reboot to test the whole thing. When rebooting pay special attention to all the green OK's. If no red FAILED's show up, you're probably good to go. BTW Sorry about the Windows crack David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" *Confirmed Linux Newbie* **It was gonna be done in Septober, then Octember, now it's Novunder.**
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
i'll get the updates... but is there any way to recover my machine from this error without having to reinstall? --- Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: pol keem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com Get the kernel and initscripts updates from a Mandrake ftp mirror. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error
Axalon, I followed your advice and I successfully created a boot disk, logged in and ran the mini LInux installation. During the boot, I gleaned the following info: Hda Quantum Fireball (Hard drive 1) Hdc Maxtor(Hard drive 2) Hdd CD ROM(CD Rom drive) I also ran fdisk as you advised. The results: hda[EZD] [remap 0-1] hdc[PTBL][10227/25/63][hdc1 2 hdc5, hdc6, hdc7 The above was printed after I typed the exact command you suggested fdisk -l /dev/hd/[abcd] After having actually logged in, I entered the same fdisk command as above and the following displayed: "Using /dev/hda as default device!" I them ran a list of the disk: DevBootStartEndBlocksID System /dev/hda1110222060320+6DOS 16-bit = 32M Oh, by the way, Hda is the Primary (boot) Master and Hdc is the Secondary Master Drive. Can you help? Thnaks. -Original Message- From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Jerry wrote: Okay, you guys got me. H is the CD Rom Drive. NT is on D and E, F and G are empty. So, do I follow the FIPS procedure now? Why isn't the / Mount POint legal here? Well, you couldn't posibly have selected 'hdc', hdc1 hdc2 etc maybe but never hdc, thats only used to reference a whole drive, eg cdroms. My understanding of your system is as follows hda Primary master. size irrelevent hda1 win95 hdb Primary slave. size 8.4 Gig e: hdb1 - How big are these partition f: hdb5 - g: hdb6 - h: hdb7 - The reason i ask is that the kernel image needs to be located somewhere within the first 1024 Cylinders of the drive. Which is likely what caused the illegal mount point error. in the directory images/rescue/ will be a compressed file, open it up follow the floppy disk creation. This is a self contained mini linux distribution, you can boot the computer with this disk and run fdisk -l /dev/hd[abcd] This will print out the partitions as linux sees them, once armed with this information you might want to take another try at it. -Original Message- From: Stuart Burbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error on 12:05 11/09/1999 -0600, Axalon Bloodstone,wrote On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Stuart Burbridge wrote: It sounds like you are probably trying to mount your / directory on your CD drive. Your current hard drives will look like this in Linux c: = hda1 e: = hdb1 f: = hdb2 g: = hdb3 h: = hdb4 close but not quite, extended partitions start at hdX5 so if you have one primary partition it'll look like e: hdb1 f: hdb5 g: hdb6 h hdb7 Oops! on 22:31 10/09/1999 -0700, Jerry,wrote I have two hard drives. One is C drive with W95. Other is E F G H 8.4 Gig Maxtor with Windows NT installed on one of the partitions. I am having trouble installing mainly as I dont know how to make sure I install to right partition on second hard drive. When I select hdc instead of hda1 and type " / " for mount point I get an error message "illegal mount point " I have 2047 megs free on three of the four partitions. Any help appreciated. JDW What's drive d: windows doesn't skip letters I wondered that too. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Multitasking in Windows allows you to screw up a several things at once. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] fxp
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: Fxp is used to connect to 2 servers at the same time using thier sorces and bandwith and not your own. Yep it's used by curry's to move files!!! If I recall correctly fxp is similiar to ftp but different. fxp is used in the warez community alot, it allows person A to connect to person B and transfer to person C why?? havent figured that one out as of yet, I am not into warez *evil grin* Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/99 07:37:01 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Simon Norris wrote: File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! Actually, the Igloo statement confused the issue for me. I thought it was some sort of new-fangled, script kiddie secure FTP transfer protocol. As for good FTP programs for Linux, I've always been a fan of ncftp. It's command-line, but it works extremely well. I'm not as fond about the new full-scrolling-screen interface, I rather liked the command-line at the bottom that was previously there. - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *** Where Ever Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow ***
Re: [newbie] remove
Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get removed from this list. - Original Message - From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] remove what - Original Message - From: Rick Knospler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22 Subject: [newbie] remove remove
Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
Bob, I have had this happen twice and found that I had to start the install over again and use fdisk or cfdisk to remove/delete the offending partitions. DOS/fdisk and PM will not be able to do so. It might be a good idea to abort the installation after deleting the partitions and boot up DOS or run PM and verify that all is well before starting the installation again. If you use Disk Druid or Linux fdisk to mess with partitions in an extended partition it seems to cause the problem so I install the primary root partition outside of any extended partition. Brian in Fremont Bob wrote: I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive. After I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order to continue the install. Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install. It fails right after it asks which drive to install from. I want to remove the Linux partition and restart the install but I can't get rid of it. Partition Magic says there is no partition there. FDISK says there is an extended partition with logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive. Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what? __ Thanks, Bob HoP 4 Life [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/ ICQ: 5760810 AOLIM: bobifmd National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Sep 99, at 13:25, pol keem wrote: when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com No one will answer you because no one wants to admit that linux freezes up like this. It didn't used to, I have seen enough X crashes but never any lock ups. Not until I started using mandrake and kde/netscape. The problem is the filesystem writes to the hard drive asynchronously to speed up read/writes. If it freezes up before a write, you just lost that information. Async was added because linux was extremely stable and they could get away with it. But now? Do we start mounting hard drives with -o sync? It should not even be freezing in the first place like this. It happened to me and then it happened to some freinds of mine who also installed mandrake. No crt-alt f2 no ctr-alt-bkspc no three finger salute. Anyone else experiencing complete kernel freezes like this? What about in other distro's? If we lose the single selling point of linux(stabillity over the competition) the what remains? Sorry if I seem like a pessimist, Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN91wDr/VnK2vTz+fEQJyjwCgvQDyE+FZ8HK9yT98dihqnvHIeloAoLLY ra6AvmKkhOJobPTJunLm8Pd+ =Zc0e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if Joe has updated his kernel. Since doing so, I have not had any crashes or lock-ups, but that could just be me. If you are using Mandrake 6.0 "out-of-the-box" as it were, the unmounting problem should be expected, as it is documented on the Mandrake web site (and numerously in this mailing list). It doesn't seem to happen to everyone, but it has seeemed to affect most of us, so I'm assuming it has something to do with certain system architechtures. Not even Mandrake can be perfect, but at least we were all notified as soon as the problem was identified, and a fix was out shortly. Who else gives tech support like that? Hmm... Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] SuperDisk
Alex Bailey wrote: hello, Of course I'm a newbie,trying to access my "SuperDisk" or I think the term is "mount" my SuperDisk drive and can't.I've read the other requests for info for the same problem and tried them.They don't seem to work,but then again I'm a newbie. I tried (under root); mount -t vfat /dev/hda(1-6) /mnt (1-6)-- meaning individually Some of the responses were; mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected,mounting read-only mount:wrong fs type,bad option,bad superblock on /dev/fd0,or too many mounted file systems Please can somebody help me make sense of this and help me get my floppy(superDisk) running or mounted? Thanks,Alex Alexhda is the master drive on the primary IDE controller. Are you sure that is your superdisk? It's usually an IDE hard drive. Also, the numbers represent partitions on the hard drive. A superdisk has no partitions so is usually just hda or hdb or hdc...etc. Another thing, /mnt is a directory where you commonly put your mount point directories, so you will probably need to make a directory in /mnt like /sdso it wold look like this /mnt/sd ...ok? Hope this helps you out (-: Alan
Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error
#include std_disclaimer.h Ok bust out that ezdrive disk, replicate E onto F and then D onto E Now when you install it should accept /dev/hdc1 as a valid mount point for / On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Jerry wrote: Axalon, I followed your advice and I successfully created a boot disk, logged in and ran the mini LInux installation. During the boot, I gleaned the following info: Hda Quantum Fireball (Hard drive 1) Hdc Maxtor(Hard drive 2) Hdd CD ROM(CD Rom drive) I also ran fdisk as you advised. The results: hda[EZD] [remap 0-1] hdc[PTBL][10227/25/63][hdc1 2 hdc5, hdc6, hdc7 The above was printed after I typed the exact command you suggested fdisk -l /dev/hd/[abcd] After having actually logged in, I entered the same fdisk command as above and the following displayed: "Using /dev/hda as default device!" I them ran a list of the disk: DevBootStartEndBlocksID System /dev/hda1110222060320+6DOS 16-bit = 32M Oh, by the way, Hda is the Primary (boot) Master and Hdc is the Secondary Master Drive. Can you help? Thnaks. -Original Message- From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Jerry wrote: Okay, you guys got me. H is the CD Rom Drive. NT is on D and E, F and G are empty. So, do I follow the FIPS procedure now? Why isn't the / Mount POint legal here? Well, you couldn't posibly have selected 'hdc', hdc1 hdc2 etc maybe but never hdc, thats only used to reference a whole drive, eg cdroms. My understanding of your system is as follows hda Primary master. size irrelevent hda1 win95 hdb Primary slave. size 8.4 Gig e: hdb1 - How big are these partition f: hdb5 - g: hdb6 - h: hdb7 - The reason i ask is that the kernel image needs to be located somewhere within the first 1024 Cylinders of the drive. Which is likely what caused the illegal mount point error. in the directory images/rescue/ will be a compressed file, open it up follow the floppy disk creation. This is a self contained mini linux distribution, you can boot the computer with this disk and run fdisk -l /dev/hd[abcd] This will print out the partitions as linux sees them, once armed with this information you might want to take another try at it. -Original Message- From: Stuart Burbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount point installation error on 12:05 11/09/1999 -0600, Axalon Bloodstone,wrote On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Stuart Burbridge wrote: It sounds like you are probably trying to mount your / directory on your CD drive. Your current hard drives will look like this in Linux c: = hda1 e: = hdb1 f: = hdb2 g: = hdb3 h: = hdb4 close but not quite, extended partitions start at hdX5 so if you have one primary partition it'll look like e: hdb1 f: hdb5 g: hdb6 h hdb7 Oops! on 22:31 10/09/1999 -0700, Jerry,wrote I have two hard drives. One is C drive with W95. Other is E F G H 8.4 Gig Maxtor with Windows NT installed on one of the partitions. I am having trouble installing mainly as I dont know how to make sure I install to right partition on second hard drive. When I select hdc instead of hda1 and type " / " for mount point I get an error message "illegal mount point " I have 2047 megs free on three of the four partitions. Any help appreciated. JDW What's drive d: windows doesn't skip letters I wondered that too. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Multitasking in Windows allows you to screw up a several things at once. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Apache and NameVirtualHost
NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1 VirtualHost mworks.britlinks.co.uk ServerName mworks.britlinks.co.uk DocumentRoot /home/httpd/marketingworks.co.uk blah blah blah /VirtualHost use the name of the server, not the ip number. On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, you wrote: I'm trying to set up apache 1.3.6 to handle name-based virtual servers. My servers are running locally for testing, I'm not trying to set up a public-access web server. My hosts file contains: "127.0.0.1britlinks.co.uk mworks.britlinks.co.uk www.britlinks.co.uk britlinks localhost" (a bit crowded, but all on one line in the actual file) and my httpd.conf file contains (among other things): "NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1 VirtualHost 127.0.0.1 ServerName mworks.britlinks.co.uk DocumentRoot /home/httpd/marketingworks.co.uk /VirtualHost VirtualHost 127.0.0.1 ServerName britlinks.co.uk DocumentRoot /home/httpd/html ServerAlias www.britlinks.co.uk /VirtualHost" but whether I type in mworks.britlinks.co.uk or www.britlinks.co.uk or britlinks.co.uk, I always get the same page... /home/httpd/html/index.html Where have I gone wrong? cheers. James. -- James Stewart | Britlinks | The Phantom Tollbooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.britlinks.co.uk | http://www.tollbooth.org Sixpence None The Richer UK -- http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/ -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Update Program
Click on the home icon on desktop select browser options from the options menu you may have to enable proxy settings enter your wingate ftp and http proxy setting And you should have it good luck Steve - Original Message - From: James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 5:11 AM Subject: [newbie] Update Program I have a Mandrake 6.0 setup behind a Wingate 3.0 proxy server connected to a cable modem, and am unable to connect with the Mandrake mirror sites to obtain updates. According to the Wingate information, I need to change the port on my FTP client (Mandrake Update?) from port 21 (standard FTP port) to port 80 to connect through my firewall. I have been unable to discover how to make this change in the Mandrake Update program. I would appreciate any suggestions. TIA Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA - The idea that an arbitrary naive human should be able to properly use a given tool without training or understanding is even more wrong for computing than it is for other tools (e.g. automobiles, airplanes, guns or power saws). (Thanks to Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.)
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Sep 99, at 18:46, Manny Styles wrote: I wonder if Joe has updated his kernel. Since doing so, I have not had any crashes or lock-ups, but that could just be me. If you are using Mandrake 6.0 "out-of-the-box" as it were, the unmounting problem should be expected, as it is documented on the Mandrake web site (and numerously in this mailing list). It doesn't seem to happen to everyone, but it has seeemed to affect most of us, so I'm assuming it has something to do with certain system architechtures. Not even Mandrake can be perfect, but at least we were all notified as soon as the problem was identified, and a fix was out shortly. Who else gives tech support like that? Hmm... Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, joe is using the updated kernel. If you had even bothered to read the message this has nothing to do with init scripts or improper shutdowns. This has to do with linux locking up like everyones favorite OS. That and the fact that linux does not always recover well from these lock ups. For most of the newbies here coming from the aforementioned OS, these lockups seem normal. The truth is, it shouldn't be locking up at all. I have seen at least 5 on my own box, saw two on two other boxes. Wild bill at the linux bits has been plagued with all sorts of lockups(newbie) on his athena box(using redhat I think). There is some talk on the kernel mailing list about beefing up the file system a bit to recover better from crashes. Doesn't this bother anyone at all? Maybe we are rushing into untried grounds alittle, ey? Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN92T8L/VnK2vTz+fEQJPvQCeMMypw1gFo9owUU7ZZcVYLFG+z4MAn3e+ IDTDWTp7K5bK3gsmTTiS1nYV =2UIM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Modem and kppp
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[newbie]help! modem won't work
I installed Mandrake 6.0 yesterday but have been unable to get my modem to respond. And no, its not a win modem. I tried many different jumper settings for the IRQ com port but when I try to use KPPP all I got were: "Sorry, the modem is not responding" or "The modem is busy" messages. I tried switching between ttyS0 - ttyS3 with only the above messages as a result. I'm puzzled, is KPPP the only program nessessary to configure the modem or am I missing something? - Original Message - From: David p. Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 2:56 PM Subject: [newbie] IT WORKS!!! --I now have both floppies up and working and am chompin' at the bit for my next Linux challenge. My special thanks to John for pointing me in the right direction. If it's OK with y'all I'd like to post the step by step in case anybody out there needs a really simplistic explanation. 1. First uncheck the default word wrap in Kedit and set the line limit to a high number like 120 or something. Failure to do so will result in your fstab getting all corrupted and messed up. Take extra special caution with the last two lines in fstab, as they don't appear to follow the regular format but seem to be very important if you like booting your system. 2. go to /mnt and create a new folder for the new floppy. Call it Floppy1 or whatever. All the folders in /mnt should be empty, unless something like the cdrom or whatever is mounted, in which case you should see nothing but the folders on that particular cd. Make sure that your Kfm is set to show hidden files. 3. Copy the /dev/fd0 line in fstab but make it /dev/fd1 and be sure to change the mount point column to the name of the new folder that you just created. (you'll need to be root for this part) 4. Reboot, and from the console as user type the command $mount /dev/fd1 and hit enter. Assuming of course that there's a floppy in the drive with data on it, your console should return to the prompt without reporting an error, and you should see your floppy led come on. That's telling you that mount was succesfull, but you aint done yet. 5. login as root. Right click your exiting floppy icon, and choose properties. a multi tab dialog box will come up. Leave it open on the desktop and right click anywhere on the desktop. From the drop down menu choose "create new filesystem device", and a little question mark thingie will appear on your desktop. A dialog simillar to the one already up will appear. Go through it and match all permissions and other settings, making sure to substitute the name of the new device and mount point. at this point you will be able to choose Icons. I took the green floppies that obviously are supposed to be for the old 51/4 floppies, but whatever you like. Some of the KDE icons are really too cool! 6. That's about it, after testing of course, and you'll have to repeat step 5 in user, and reboot to test the whole thing. When rebooting pay special attention to all the green OK's. If no red FAILED's show up, you're probably good to go. BTW Sorry about the Windows crack David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" *Confirmed Linux Newbie* **It was gonna be done in Septober, then Octember, now it's Novunder.**
[newbie] telnet problem
I have installed Linux-Mandrake 6.0 on a computer I intend to use as a web server. Everything is going great except for one thing. I CAN'T TELNET INTO THE SYSTEM I can't figure out how it happened. I did the update and ten the problem started. Can anyone help me??? Thanks, Shannon M. Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] nfs problems part 2
Hi, Axalon, I did 'rpcinfo -p' on the broken box. It returns: program vers proto port 102 tcp111 rpcbind 102 udp111 rpcbind 151 udp635 mountd 152 udp635 mountd 151 tcp635 mountd 152 tcp635 mountd 132 udp 2049 nfs 132 tcp 2049 nfs On the two machines which seem to be working OK, 'rpcinfo -p' returns: program vers proto port 102 tcp111 rpcbind 102 udp111 rpcbind 1000211 udp 1024 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 1024 nlockmgr 1000211 tcp 1024 nlockmgr 1000213 tcp 1024 nlockmgr These two machines are mounting all remote partitions, including the ones on the broken box. Any suggestions? Thanks, Hidong Axalon Bloodstone wrote: rpcinfo -p broke_boxs_ip, says? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Sep 99, at 18:46, Manny Styles wrote: I wonder if Joe has updated his kernel. Since doing so, I have not had any crashes or lock-ups, but that could just be me. If you are using Mandrake 6.0 "out-of-the-box" as it were, the unmounting problem should be expected, as it is documented on the Mandrake web site (and numerously in this mailing list). It doesn't seem to happen to everyone, but it has seeemed to affect most of us, so I'm assuming it has something to do with certain system architechtures. Not even Mandrake can be perfect, but at least we were all notified as soon as the problem was identified, and a fix was out shortly. Who else gives tech support like that? Hmm... Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, joe is using the updated kernel. If you had even bothered to read the message this has nothing to do with init scripts or improper shutdowns. This has to do with linux locking up like everyones favorite OS. That and the fact that linux does not always recover well from these lock ups. For most of the newbies here coming from the aforementioned OS, these lockups seem normal. The truth is, it shouldn't be locking up at all. I have seen at least 5 on my own box, saw two on two other boxes. Wild bill at the linux bits has been plagued with all sorts of lockups(newbie) on his athena box(using redhat I think). There is some talk on the kernel mailing list about beefing up the file system a bit to recover better from crashes. Doesn't this bother anyone at all? Maybe we are rushing into untried grounds alittle, ey? Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN92T8L/VnK2vTz+fEQJPvQCeMMypw1gFo9owUU7ZZcVYLFG+z4MAn3e+ IDTDWTp7K5bK3gsmTTiS1nYV =2UIM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not even trying to get into a flame on this. I read polkeem's message, and he was asking for help on improper shutdowns and fsck. That is what I answered on, and what I referred to. The times on this list where I have seen someone have problems with KDE freezing either had to do with some missing files (rare), or incompatible hardware, not just because of the OS itself. Is it possible? Sure. I don't know the complete ins and outs of linux, but that is what I have seen so far. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown
- Original Message - From: pol keem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown i'll get the updates... but is there any way to recover my machine from this error without having to reinstall? --- Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: pol keem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: [newbie] reboot after incorrect shutdown when i reboot after incorrect shutdown...it says some disks were not unmounted correcty and to RUN fdck MANUALLY and asks me for root passwd... after i give it the passwd and type fdck it says one line about parallelizing... so i exit and it says... you're nobody...go away... and then after more error messages it goes to the login prompt and says...internal error i've reinstalled it twice and got the same result after rebooting whenever it freezes... any ideas?... === polkeem __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com Get the kernel and initscripts updates from a Mandrake ftp mirror. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html === polkeem I believe that should be fsck (I don't know if that was just a typo on your part or not.) Assuming your root partition is on /dev/hda1, you should type in: #fsck /dev/hda1 That should fix your filesystem. Make sure to answer Y to every question. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie]help! modem won't work
A Enoch Meza wrote: I installed Mandrake 6.0 yesterday but have been unable to get my modem to respond. And no, its not a win modem. I tried many different jumper settings for the IRQ com port but when I try to use KPPP all I got were: "Sorry, the modem is not responding" or "The modem is busy" messages. I tried switching between ttyS0 - ttyS3 with only the above messages as a result. I'm puzzled, is KPPP the only program nessessary to configure the modem or am I missing something? What com port is it on? 1, 2, you should be safe. I'm betting com 3 which is ttyS2. If so at a terminal type: man setserial You need to enable com 3, 4.. Try this.. -- === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
[newbie] Telneting into my machine and scripts
Hi! I'm wanting to know how I can telnet into my machine from school (got the school end figured). So I need to know how to make my machine accept telnets. Also, can I use X-windows from telnet? And the scripts part - I want to make a simple script that starts a few programs and other scripts when I log on via kppp (kpp would run the 'master' script). Is it just a text file with the program commands and an execute flag? And a more complex script - I want to shutdown things like licq when I disconnect. As always, help is appreciated. -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713
Re: [newbie] remove
"D.Vaughn" wrote: Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get removed from this list. If you (and he) weren't too lazy to go to Mandrake.com, click on lists, and read a little instead of expecting someone else to do your research, then you'd know how to get off the list and we wouldn't have to listen to you whine. Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] remove what - Original Message - From: Rick Knospler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22 Subject: [newbie] remove remove
Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space
Jeremy Kersenbrock wrote: I'm new to Linux (and this list) and am attempting to install Linux-Mandrake 6.0 on a system which currently has Win95 installed on its only hard drive with the FAT32 file system. I want to add Linux without destroying Windows or investing in a new hard drive (for a while). My problem is that I cannot recover enough room at the end of my drive in which to make the Linux partition(s). I have tried using FIPS and Ranish Partition Manager and both are convinced I can only recover about 40MB from a drive with 853MB of free space. Here is my problem, as I understand it. Please correct or make suggestions as necessary. Even though I have used the Win95 defragger to defrag the drive before I attempt to partition; there are still clusters that the defragger "will not move" that are too close to the end of the drive to allow me to recover the necessary amount of space. My Windows swap file is not part of the problem as I disabled it and then rebooted and re-defragged only to see no change in my problem. How can I move these clusters up to the front of the disk? If this is not possible, how can I verify what files are in these clusters so that I can unistall them? Jeremy If I recall correctly the files at the end of the disk are put there by certain programs. I'm not sure but I think it's things like Norton Commander and similar progs. If anybody can correct me or shed more light on this, please do. What programs are you running? If you can kill these maybe you can delete those pesky files. You can always fire them up again after you get Linux installed. I've got win95 and I stripped all non-essentials before I installed Mandrake. The defrag/partitioning went smoothly. Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
