Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, here are the specs
Okay I have a 15" Axion CL1566 Monitor, a Cirrus Logic GD5446 2MB Video Card. Running Mandrake 6.1 on a 200 mhz 32MB RAM with 120MB swap space. With this I get windows that bleed and leave traces and are hollow and half way show up ...blah if you know what I mean. THanks for your patience and help. -Ryan From: "bay56" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 05:15:07 +0100 Nope - just similar looking symptoms - forget I spoke sulk ;-) Regards, Ian I have a Cirrus Logic GD5446 video card 2mg. I don't know if this is answering your question. I am guessing you may have an SiS 6326 graphics chipset there - am I right? Regards, Ian I'll do my best to explain this. I have successfully installed 6.1 on a 200mhz, 32megRAm, 120megSwap space. I don't know if Xwindows is acting right or not. My windows all combine overlapping and leave dragging traces. My text will mix together and somtimes show a double vision type look. I have tried several different configurations using XF86Setup. I have the monitors orginal specs and the video card appears to be configured correctly. Am I lacking memory? I am a poor college student so I would greatly appreciate not having to purchase more! Thanks in advance for any suggestions or ideas to more easily tweak this resolution. -Ryan __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer G2 Update
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: Sorry Rick this is not even the Beta yet ? Got a ways to go before the final Jeanette Well I saved the link to their patch, I guess I'll be fooling with that in a couple of months. The real player G2 is downloaded is an updated file. The old G2 was from May, this one is dated Sept. 29. I did get a stutter running it last night but I'm hoping that was because of heavy internet traffiic. Meanwhile I'm back to trying to figure out xcdroast. I hope to mount my windows files in linux and then have xcdroast copy and burn the mandrake 6.1 iso file I downloaded to windows. Thanks for the info. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
Re: [newbie] Forcing Network card to read off of 10baseT
Arcana wrote: If you can find one. You can get a 10-mbit only hub for as low as $50, and that'll DEFINITELY be easier to find than a "crossover cable." It may come down to making one yourself if you can't find one. The information is out there on the web just cut one end off your existing patch cable, get a couple new RJ-45 plug ends and a crimper, then go follow the instructions out there on the 'net! I have access to unshielded twisted pair cable (Cat5), plug ends, and crimpers (i'd need to borrow crimpers), so if I really wanted to I can make my own. But that means going through the effort to make my own (OR buying a hub, damn, I don't really NEED a hub! I only have two computers! AND I'm broke anyway!). Well, thanks. Dense old me wouldn't have ever thought you needed a different cable setup :) -- /-|rcana - - * - - Pern - Araby Weyr: http://members.tripod.com/~Araby/ FF7 - Tales of Midgar: http://members.tripod.com/~ArcanaTxM/ Xenogears - DeM: http://members.tripod.com/~project_xat/ Xenogears - Guardian Angels: http://guardian.zenogias.com/ Try going to someone in your local college's MIS department, they might be willing to make you one for the cost of a brew. 8-) -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] KDE/XF86Config Question
Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and make sure you have "ViewPort 0 0" in each of the Subsection "Display" areas for your video card. See below. ---snip # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "ATI Rage Pro" Monitor "Compaq" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 #make sure you have this line EndSubsection EndSection snip-- On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hi Steve, Did you get an answer for this ? I'd also like to have the Virtual screen always at the size of the current screen size. Removing the line Virtual in the XF86Config does not help... Thanks and regards, - regis, TheThingThatShouldNotBe wrote: I wonder if there is a way to mnake the Virtual screen to ALWAYS the same size as the current screen size... -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail
Re: [newbie] newbie-remove
Jaybird X wrote: John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Maybe they're just stupid. :-( Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got started. Geeever think maybe they're just too damn lazy to go visit the site where they first got the info on how to subscribe Or maybe they just panicked, you know, not thinkin' straight, like if you fell into a pool of sharks and just wanted to get out! Jaybird -- Be the first one on your block to put a Penguin in your box. Or blinded by a flashy M$ salesman who told them that darkness was a feature and not a burned out light bulb 8-) -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] GIMP and SANE
Hi, I failed to add xscanimage as a new plug-in for GIMP¨. Yet I try ln -s /usr/local/bin/xscanimage ~/.gimp/plug-ins/xscanimage as it is written in the Sane documentation and ln -s /usr/local/bin/xscanimage /usr/lib/gimp/1.0/plug-ins/xscanimage as it is indicated in the GIMP Faq So what ? Rodolphe Echard
Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 06:44:01PM -0700, Ryan Baxter wrote: I have a Cirrus Logic GD5446 video card 2mg. I don't know if this is answering your question. This rings a bell for me - I have the same card, it worked fine with 6.0 but when I upgraded to 6.1 I experienced the same problems you describe. I remember seeing a post stating that the version of XFree86 that comes with 6.1 has a problem with the cirrus GD5446, so I reinstalled the XFree86 rpms that came with redhat 6.0 and voila, all was well again! Worth a go, anyway. Paul Wray
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
I had similar problems with my video card. It is an ancient ATI VGA-Wonder in my little 486. I re-installed Mandrake and the problem went away. I figure it was related to a bad filecopy during the install process. That's just my 2cents. :-) Phil __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??
"Rick" == Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Eric L. Damron wrote: I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with all the patches. If I take the time to upgrade to 6.1 what will it give me? Rick I liked the things I've found with 6.1. It has Netscape Rick 6.1, the latest kde which will now load gnome applications, Rick xcdroast already installed. I think it is worth the Rick upgrade. Does it have xemacs 21.? ? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
"Phil" == Phil Thornley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil I had similar problems with my video card. It is an ancient Phil ATI VGA-Wonder in my little 486. I re-installed Mandrake Phil and the problem went away. I figure it was related to a bad Phil filecopy during the install process. You installed Mandrake on a 486? -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: XEmacs 21.1, VM 6.71 and random-sig.el X-Face header is me! http://www.cs.indiana.edu/picons/ftp/faq.html Kernel 2.2.13-11mdk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Oct 1 St Remigius "I am proud of being fettered by antiquated dogmas and enslaved by dead creeds ... for I know very well that it is the heretical creeds that are dead, and that it is only the reasonable dogma that lives long enough to be called antiquated." [G.K. Chesterton, Autobiography]
RE: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess
I am still having trouble after working on it for 6 hours yesterday. I have worked with both Xconfigurator and xf86config. I have also done some hand editing to the XF86Config file. I have a Gateway Vivitron 1572, model cpd 15F13, and a SPD TRIO 64 w/ 2MB ram video card. Both came with the machine when I purchased it from Gateway. I have the specs on the monitor and video card and tried editing the XF86Config directly but I still have the same problems of horizontal lines and screen flicker whenever any thing is being moved on the screen. The S3 Xserver is the one that is being selected and that appears to be correct. I think the next thing to try is a new package XFree86. How can I get Mandrake to run in run level three so I can install it? It always boots up to X and when I do ctrl-alt-bkspace it just restarts X. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: I wasn't even aware that I could select an alternative X server. I have 2meg of video ram. I just did the vanilla flavor install. Thanks for your help. Ahh...Ok. You still haven't told us *BRAND* names of video card and monitors. :-) We'll need that kind of info to help further. :-) Assuming you have average to superior intelligence (IMNSHO, most people running Linux have at LEAST average intelligence G) you probably selected your video card when given the option, so you SHOULD be running the correct X-server, but just to be safe, what vid card do you have, and what size, brand, model of monitor do you have? For example, I'm using a CTX 1562D 15" monitor here. Get back to us with more detailed info and we'll be glad to help. :-) John
Re: [newbie] 3 very newbie questions!
Hi. I install yesterday Linux 6.0 and have 3 questions: 1. How I can install and configure a Genius PCI modem? 2. How I can install an internet connection, just line M$ Dialup connection? Is there someplace to read a HOWTO to do this? 3. Where I can change my screen resolution? I cannot perform Control/Alt/-,+? TIA. Lorenzo Jimenez ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: John, Thanks for your quick response. I'll investigate, based on your instructions. Expect to hear back from me though:) Okhere's the thing. My SCSI CDROM was detected automatically at install and is ONLY listed as /dev/cdrom. I'm thinking your SCSI ID 0 may be the problem. John
Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: I have a Cirrus Logic GD5446 video card 2mg. I don't know if this is answering your question. Hthis should be using the xf86_svga x server... John
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: I have three devices on the chain: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun:00 Vendor TOSHIBA, etc, etc Type CD-ROM Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun:00 Vendor: Umax, etc, etc Type: Scanner Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun:00 Vendor: Quantum, etc, etc Type Direct Access However, I'm unable to locate an entry for sda0, only sda, sda2, etc..Am I completely on the wrong track? I don't think there *will* be an SDA0. After all, you don't have an HDA0, you start with hda1. I'm not real clear on how exactly that would work, but if it doesn't work as /dev/sda1, you may need to change your SCSI ID to something else. John
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: From: Paul Hoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I'm unable to locate an entry for sda0, only sda, sda2, etc..Am I completely on the wrong track? Actually, the device you should be looking for is /dev/sr0, not /dev/sd[x]. Ahh...Ok. :-) I'm glad someone else knew what they were talking about :-) I'm a relative newbie to SCSI in general I've had to learn the hard way about the difference between Wide, Ultra and Ultra-Wide. Still not sure I understand the different "flavors" of SCSI (lvd, etc) :-) John
Re: [newbie] Front ends for PGP
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a front end for pgp the works with kde? The only thing I miss about windoze is the ease of using pgp Well, KMail has a front-end built-in for PGPdon't know about anything else, though. John
Re: [newbie]Magazine Distro...
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Let's try this again. I have tried posting to this address and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to no avail. Anyway, I have a question that maybe someone can answer. I recently installed Mandrake 6.0 that came with the new Maximum Linux magazine (by the people who put out MaximumPC). To make a long story short it does some funky things with the default installation, including not creating a /opt directory. Because of this I do not know where any of the startup scripts for KDE are. I would like to use WindowMaker as my wm but can't seem to find .startkde as it is not where it was on my other distributions (SuSE 6.1 and RedHat 5.3). If anyone else has tried this install or knows where to look for the KDE stuff could you please send some info my way? Mandrake doesn't use /opt any more. It follows the RedHat plan of putting KDE in /usr. Open up a Konsole window and type "whereis startkde." On my RedHat 6 box that comes up in /usr/bin/startkde. John
[newbie] POP3 docs?
Does anyone know where I can find docs for the POP3 server included on Mandrake? I can't seem to find anything on the install CD, nor any Howtos on the net. (I'm sure I just haven't found the right place.) Thanks, Steve Freitas Newport Beach, California
Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?
Jeanette Russo wrote: Read those DOCs, I did what it say imwheel -k says its running. Not working? I am using supported hardware Logitech firstmouse button on PS 2 port. Tried 3 button /on/off still no good? Tried mouse as generic ps2, Logitech Mouseman PS2 and Logitech Firstmouse + PS2 and still not working. Can someone please tell me the trick or I give up? Jeanette Jeanettethere is no trick I'm aware of. I have a Logitech Trackman Marble Plus and it is defined as a MouseManPlusPS/2 in the XF86Config. I'm using the Mach64 server and the KDE default desktop. I load imwheel with a shell script like this: #!/bin/bash imwheel -k in the Autostart directory on the KDE desktop. Here's hoping you don't give up. Alan
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer G2 Update
Jeanette Russo wrote: Rick Murphy wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, root wrote: For all the folks having problems with real player, an article in today's slashdot mentioned that a new alpha version is now out. http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html Ok troops, I downloaded the new RealPlayerG2 (an rpm for us mandrake and redhat folks) installed it over the top of my old RealPlayerG2 and away it went. Seems to be working fine. Apparently Real Audio sets their beta programs to expire in 60 days. Their final releases do not expire. I hope this is a final release. Rick "mulerider" Murphy -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB Sorry Rick this is not even the Beta yet ? Got a ways to go before the final Jeanette JeanetteI downloaded my G2 using the URL that you posted. When I bring up the program and click on the Help pull-down-menu (top right corner of the window) and choose the bottom item, About RealPlayer, it displays an applet that identifies the program like this: RealPlayer (tm) (Unix) Version 6.0.4.238 (Beta) What does yours say. Alan
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgrade at your own risk)
Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) How do I know which on I need, the one with or with out glibc? Running L-M 6.0. Don
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote:
I have three devices on the chain:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun:00
Vendor TOSHIBA, etc, etc
Type CD-ROM
/dev/scd0
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun:00
Vendor: Umax, etc, etc
Type: Scanner
i don't think it's got one but if so it's /dev/sr1
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun:00
Vendor: Quantum, etc, etc
Type Direct Access
/dev/sda
However, I'm unable to locate an entry for sda0, only sda, sda2, etc..Am I
completely on the wrong track?
I don't think there *will* be an SDA0. After all, you don't
have an HDA0, you start with hda1. I'm not real clear on
how exactly that would work, but if it doesn't work as
/dev/sda1, you may need to change your SCSI ID to something
else.
John
if !(axalon_on_track) {
And thus concludes the showing of "Axalons scsi ignorance"
}
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--Axalon
Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: I have a Cirrus Logic GD5446 video card 2mg. I don't know if this is answering your question. Hthis should be using the xf86_svga x server... John enable "no_bltbit" should fix the GD5446 -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
John, Thanks for your continuing support. I'm going to change the id sometime this weekend. I do know, however, that the ID was detected when I ran Redhat 5. I'll do it anyway. Cheers Paul Hoy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: October 1, 1999 12:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM? On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: John, Thanks for your quick response. I'll investigate, based on your instructions. Expect to hear back from me though:) Okhere's the thing. My SCSI CDROM was detected automatically at install and is ONLY listed as /dev/cdrom. I'm thinking your SCSI ID 0 may be the problem. John
Re: [RE: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess]
"Frank Geter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get Mandrake to run in run level three so I can install it? It always boots up to X and when I do ctrl-alt-bkspace it just restarts X. Thanks At the lilo prompt type "linux 3" w/o the quotes, of course :o) ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Whenever it asks me if I want my screen to be 'virtually' bigger than what my monitor can handle, I choose no. Yet whenever I start xserver, this damn thing will show me a cursor that is the size of a walnut and what's worse, it will give me that virtual screen thingamagic. AND the color seems to be all messed up as well. Try adjusting your refresh rates (XF86Setup or XConfigurator again) to a more "conservative" setting, i.e. LESS than what your monitor can handle. Also, try CTRL+ALT+keypad-Plus. John
RE: [newbie] Gateway Vivitron 1572, Model 15F13
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: what did u use to do this? Xconfigurator? xf86config? And what exactly is this conservative setting you are talking about? I found out that this specific monitor has: Horiz: 31-64Khz Vert: 50-120 Khz Try setting it for something like 35-60Khz horizontal and something along the lines of 50-90 Khz Vertical. Then, when you get X up and running, right-click on your desktop and select "execute command" and type "konsole" in the box provided and hit "enter." Then type "xvidtune." That should alllow you to check yoru configs. John
Re: [Re: [newbie] 3 very newbie questions!]
"Lorenzo Jimenez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I install yesterday Linux 6.0 and have 3 questions: 1. How I can install and configure a Genius PCI modem? === It's entirely possible that this modem is a winmodem, and thus can NOT be configured for linux. :o( === 2. How I can install an internet connection, just line M$ Dialup connection? = If your modem will work, try kppp (on the menu under "internet"). Fill in all of the appropriate info it asks for (there is a help button if you need it. Fairly self-explanatory. Just for good measure, edit /etc/resolv.conf by adding the lines: search your ISP nameserver dns# provided by your isp nameserver dns# provided by your isp [They usually give you two] = 3. Where I can change my screen resolution? I cannot perform Control/Alt/-,+? = As root, go to XF86Setup (case sensitive). You can set it up there. Nice gui interface, very easy. Mike ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
RE: [newbie] POP3 docs?
http://www.sendmail.org Enjoy.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Freitas Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 1:18 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie Subject: [newbie] POP3 docs? Does anyone know where I can find docs for the POP3 server included on Mandrake? I can't seem to find anything on the install CD, nor any Howtos on the net. (I'm sure I just haven't found the right place.) Thanks, Steve Freitas Newport Beach, California
[newbie] File Structure
Can anyone point me to a graphical representation of the linux file structure. I've been cruising through http://www.mandrakeuser.com and found a fairly good written one but I live in a 3D graphical world and some sort of branching tree diagram would be EXTREMELY helpful. Thanks -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, here are the specs
- Original Message - From: Ryan Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, here are the specs Okay I have a 15" Axion CL1566 Monitor, Well at least that's listed as a supported monitor type ISTR. a Cirrus Logic GD5446 2MB Video Card. I would have thought that ought to be ok, but see if you can swap with someone else to see if another card has similar problems or not - ideally one that is listed as being supported. S3 can be good - even on a tight budget. Running Mandrake 6.1 on a 200 mhz 32MB RAM with 120MB swap space. To be honest there are a lot of video cards which rival or exceed that spec these days. apart from the swap space of course. With this I get windows that bleed and leave traces and are hollow and half way show up ...blah if you know what I mean. THanks for your patience and help. Your descriptive powers are good - I know exactly what you mean - I've been there myself quite recently! I'm out of ideas beyond other cards (it worked for me) - but others (older and wiser) might help yet. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
Can now report that it survies re-installs - so it probably is the known one which the other fella posted about - I have noticed from time to time it must involve the powering down end of things, because it's only after it says that that I get the scollies! All I get to see it system halted - then rapid scroll - but what is it that I should see at shutdown? Presumably some message about powering down? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Hey, Just for grins, try running fsck on your Linux partition. This is like win9x's scandisk, and can fix some weird problems. Still guessing, Ernie - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully, someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help. I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help this time, No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies, and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart - I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win - bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum! Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!) I have no errors at all of any import. What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature? Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error. It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see what's really going on. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgrad
On 01-Oct-99 Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Whoah, calm down. Right now any version of Netscape compiled with glibc has some problems, because Mandrake uses a newer version of glibc than the one Netscape is being compiled with. However, I think the version of Netscape 4.61 currently being used by Mandrake is compiled with the older libc5, which clears up the problems. I think Axalon may have meant that the glibc version of 4.7 doesn't clear up the problems that the earlier versions compiled with glibc had. I'm using Netscape 4.7 (glibc version) right now and it's working just peachy (but so did the glibc version of 4.6, for me), but then again I don't use Composer, just Navigator; for the fun of it I fired up Composer and tried adding a link to a webpage just now, and it predictably crashed. I think they also provide a libc5 version of 4.7, though, and I assume that should work as well as the 'stable' 4.61. The download time isn't really worth it though; as far as I can tell, the only things they add are integration with AOL Instant Messenger (oh whoopee), 'Netscape Radio', and a button on the toolbar that says 'Shop'. The first one is Windows-only of course, and the second one is unuseable because it only works with a PLUGIN of RealPlayer G2, of which a Linux version does not yet exist. And the last one is nothing more than a bookmark in the more intrusive form of a button, to a page on their Netcenter site with links to shopping sites. As if we couldn't find cdnow.com and amazon.com on our own, and as if we're really gullible enough to accept that advertising as being some kind of nifty new feature (well okay I guess some people are that gullible, but not many of them are using Linux.) -Tom
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You, unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in the archives detailing the fix: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it was a problem with the mother board: $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax. So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's right! (which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!) Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your side first. ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] 3 very newbie questions!]
Thanks for answering. It's entirely possible that this modem is a winmodem, and thus can NOT be configured for linux How can I know if it is a winmodem, I search genius site but nothing so far. Lorenzo
RE: [newbie] POP3 docs?
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Steve Freitas wrote: http://www.sendmail.org Enjoy.. Uhh, I didn't think the POP3 server was part of Sendmail. That presents a problem with Postfix, which won't let me install the RPM unless I remove Sendmail. So I removed it. If the POP3 server is part of Sendmail, then that would explain why it's not responding. Am I on the right track? you'll find the pop servers in the imap package Steve Freitas -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] File Structure
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: Can anyone point me to a graphical representation of the linux file structure. I've been cruising through http://www.mandrakeuser.com and found a fairly good written one but I live in a 3D graphical world and some sort of branching tree diagram would be EXTREMELY helpful. Thanks -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out rpmfind.net -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] Test
Test to see if I can now really send messages to the help list. THanks for dealing with this little test. - wass
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Want reasonable priced Linux systems? Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
--
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, the entire 4.x line has been crap. The HTML editor crashes randomly, name resolution locks the machine occasionally, Java is severely broken, occasional news posts will double-load, etc, etc, etc. Thanks, but I'll stick with the problems I know about rather than inheriting a whole new pile of bugs. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] File Structure
"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Can anyone point me to a graphical representation of the linux file structure. I've been cruising through http://www.mandrakeuser.com and found a fairly good written one but I live in a 3D graphical world and some sort of branching tree diagram would be EXTREMELY helpful. Like a hierarchial tree of the file system? / - /usr /bin /lib /etc /var /opt etc??? -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgrad
"Thomas J. Hamman" wrote: On 01-Oct-99 Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Whoah, calm down. Right now any version of Netscape compiled with glibc has some problems, because Mandrake uses a newer version of glibc than the one Netscape is being compiled with. However, I think the version of Netscape 4.61 currently being used by Mandrake is compiled with the older libc5, which clears up the problems. I think Axalon may have meant that the glibc version of 4.7 doesn't clear up the problems that the earlier versions compiled with glibc had. I'm using Netscape 4.7 (glibc version) right now and it's working just peachy (but so did the glibc version of 4.6, for me), but then again I don't use Composer, just Navigator; for the fun of it I fired up Composer and tried adding a link to a webpage just now, and it predictably crashed. I think they also provide a libc5 version of 4.7, though, and I assume that should work as well as the 'stable' 4.61. The download time isn't really worth it though; as far as I can tell, the only things they add are integration with AOL Instant Messenger (oh whoopee), 'Netscape Radio', and a button on the toolbar that says 'Shop'. The first one is Windows-only of course, and the second one is unuseable because it only works with a PLUGIN of RealPlayer G2, of which a Linux version does not yet exist. And the last one is nothing more than a bookmark in the more intrusive form of a button, to a page on their Netcenter site with links to shopping sites. As if we couldn't find cdnow.com and amazon.com on our own, and as if we're really gullible enough to accept that advertising as being some kind of nifty new feature (well okay I guess some people are that gullible, but not many of them are using Linux.) -Tom Tomhmok, so I shouldn't fire off a reply just after opening mail containing a yearly property tax billgr. (-: I'm currently using the 4.61 from the 6.0 updates mirror. Every time I sign-on my bank's web site they bug me about updating my browser or they'll cut off my access (has to do with 128 bit encryption). Well this seemed like a good time to upgrade the encryption, by downloading the new version and getting it with the 128 bit encryption. When I went to download it there was another choice to pay $5.95 and they's send a CD. That seemed like a good idea, so I did and now I'm waiting for it to arrive. But I do believe that I ordered the glibc version. Rats! (-: Alan
Re: [newbie] POP3 docs?
Steve Freitas wrote: http://www.sendmail.org Enjoy.. Uhh, I didn't think the POP3 server was part of Sendmail. That presents a problem with Postfix, which won't let me install the RPM unless I remove Sendmail. So I removed it. If the POP3 server is part of Sendmail, then that would explain why it's not responding. Am I on the right track? I believe the imap package provides the usual POP3 server. Check to see if that package is installed on your system. What problems are you having? There's not a WHOLE lot of configuration you can do... -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset
I have just upgraded from Linux Mandrake 6.0 til Linux Mandrake 6.1 on the same machine but I can no longer get my primary ide HD to run in UDMA mode. This is causing servere loss of performance when compared to the "old" Mandrake 6.0. My machine is konfigured with: ASUS P5A-B, AMD K6-2 and Quantum fireball CR 13 GB ide /UDMA. In Linux Mandrake 6.0 and custom compiled kernel I meassured the tranfer rate with hdparm -Tt /dev/hda to arround 14,5 mb/s wich was very good. The same rate as I get in win95 with busmastering UDMA on this machine. (Without busmastering UDMA it only gave arround 6,5 mb/s in both OS). Now on the Linux Mandrake 6.1 with higher kernel number I have custom compiled the kernel to use UDMA when available but on boot but it dosn't work anyway. So now I am stuck with only get 6,5 mb/s from my primary disk in Linux. The funny thing is, that I have upgraded because of Mandrakes claimed ability to enable UDMA. I have read in this mail-group that I have to get the "Uniform IDE driver patch for UDMA support on Ali Chipsets" to get it to work. I geuss that I have to apply this some how to the kernel source and then be able to custom compile my kernel and finaly get som usefull transferrates. Can anybody tell me exactly: - where can this patch be downloaded from? - how do I actually patch the kernel source? (I have never done that before) I thank you in advance! (But any way, It seems a litle odd that Mandrake 6.0 was more able to handle UDMA than the new 6.1) Smed
Re: [newbie] fs on smbmount
Simon Norris wrote: Unix type environments don't take kindly to using spaces in filenames, I think you've got away with it quite well!! We have often had to wipe complete directory structures, because someone FTP'ed a file from a win95 box, and all the file commands in Unix/Linux depende on their being no spaces! Umm... not true. Linux deals quite well with spaces in file names. try: touch "this is a file with spaces" or rm this\ is\ a\ file\ with\ spaces Both work just fine and have for a long time. In fact, if anyone remembers Maelstrom (a game noone seems to ship with Linux distributions anymore), it uses directories and files with spaces in the names. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display
bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display Look for the lm_sensors package. Ah, having a name to shoot for will sure help - thanks. It will read the information from the fans and temps. There are also some GUI packages available that read the lm_sensors output, though I haven't been able to get any of them to work correctly yet... still trying! This is often the way of these things ISTR - normally down to programmers setting/allowing correct fan mulitpliers and such - getting that right is often the black art of it. Along with correct chip features support of course - then there's mobo akers who habitually label the output back to front ;-) The problems I'm having is that the GUI tools read the output fine, but don't seem to display the information. I'm still working on it... :) -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Re:
In HTML no less. What a Genious! David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" **The falcon has heard the falconer** -Original Message- From: Christopher John Cogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:19 PM newbie remove
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer G2 Update
JeanetteI downloaded my G2 using the URL that you posted. When I bring up the program and click on the Help pull-down-menu (top right corner of the window) and choose the bottom item, About RealPlayer, it displays an applet that identifies the program like this: RealPlayer (tm) (Unix) Version 6.0.4.238 (Beta) What does yours say. Alan It says the same thing Alan. Jeanette
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option
I feel like such a trail-blazer...sniff Cheers Brian, I think all I needed is someone to attempt it before me, to give me the confidence to jump in with both feet!! Original Message On 9/30/99, 6:38:12 PM, "Brian J. Babiuk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option: [snip] I didn't mean to come across as an authority. I just am speaking from my own experience. I hope this helps someone! Best way to speak, and often helps more than the 'authority.' Ty
RE: [newbie] POP3 docs?
Yup... Sendmail does both. As for not responding.. no clue... is sendmail running as a process? Can't help you with Postfix though as I quite honestly don't know what it is grin Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Freitas Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:35 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie; Thomas Andres Subject: RE: [newbie] POP3 docs? http://www.sendmail.org Enjoy.. Uhh, I didn't think the POP3 server was part of Sendmail. That presents a problem with Postfix, which won't let me install the RPM unless I remove Sendmail. So I removed it. If the POP3 server is part of Sendmail, then that would explain why it's not responding. Am I on the right track? Steve Freitas
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
"Axalon" == Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Axalon On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: [snip] Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun:00 Vendor: Umax, etc, etc Type: Scanner Axalon i don't think it's got one but if so it's /dev/sr1 [snip] On my machine $ls -l /dev/scanner returns /dev/scanner - /dev/sga And $find-scanner returns find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/scanner find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/sg0 find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/sga -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: XEmacs 21.1, VM 6.71 and random-sig.el X-Face header is me! http://www.cs.indiana.edu/picons/ftp/faq.html Kernel 2.2.13-11mdk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Oct 1 St Remigius "For though today is always today and the moment is always modern, we are the only men in all history who fell back upon bragging about the mere fact that today is not yesterday." [G.K. Chesterton, in All I Survey]
[newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - success
Or should that be SUCCESS!! Just to confirm - recompiling your kernel without version information on modules DOES allow you to force the insertion of the current module available from Creative. On successful reboot you get all the glorious sounds you would expect from your most wonderful Sound Blaster Live!!! Now, the next question is how to write this up in a newbie friendly way ;o) If i think of something easy i'll post again - of course the easiest would be for the next kernel from Mandrake to be compiled this way in the first place!. Don't know if anyone from Mandrake is listening, but how about it guys? - would save a lot of people a lot of hassle, not to mention myself the bandwidth of putting of a new kernel RPM up on my website. Martin.
[newbie] Upgrade 6.0 to 6.2
I would like to get some input about making the upgrade to Mandrake 6.1. I am running the patched version of 6.0 and have spent a lot of time configuring and installing software and I really like this one. This is the best Linux system I have ever had. Is there a good reason for me to upgrade to Mandrake 6.1? This is too nice to mess up now unless there is a pretty good reason why Mandrake 6.1 is better? Thanks for the input Jeanette
Re: [newbie] File Structure
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Can anyone point me to a graphical representation of the linux file structure. I've been cruising through http://www.mandrakeuser.com and found a fairly good written one but I live in a 3D graphical world and some sort of branching tree diagram would be EXTREMELY helpful. Like a hierarchial tree of the file system? / - /usr /bin /lib /etc /var /opt etc??? Thats what i was thinking. I'll give a better description seeing as i have time ATM.. rpmfind's RDF was a killer browse the distribution tree, it allows you to browse the dist tree if you select i file it'll jump to the package description and give you a full listing of the files that package contains. For the bandwidth deprived, you can create a local RDF with rpm2html (located in either cooker or in contribs i've forgotten). It will use just under 35megs. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - success
Somebody's got a bad linelength set :) On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Martin White wrote: Or should that be SUCCESS!! Just to confirm - recompiling your kernel without version information on modules DOES allow you to force the insertion of the current module Could just be me but Uh, why does it need forced still? I thought that was the whole point of recompileing was so it'd autoload like any normal driver. available from Creative. On successful reboot you get all the glorious sounds you would expect from your most wonderful Sound Blaster Live!!! Snazzy i thought that was a part of the driver not the device :) Now, the next question is how to write this up in a newbie friendly way ;o) If i think of something easy i'll post again - of course the easiest would be for the next kernel from Mandrake to be compiled this way in the first place!. Don't know if anyone from Mandrake is listening, but how about it guys? - would save a lot of people a lot of hassle, not to mention myself the bandwidth of putting of a new kernel RPM up on my website. I'm not a kernel guru but i'm pretty sure thats going to cause us problems Martin. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Test
Test concluded successfully :) On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Wass wrote: Test to see if I can now really send messages to the help list. THanks for dealing with this little test. - wass -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Thanks, but I'll stick with the problems I know about rather than inheriting a whole new pile of bugs. That just happened to get shovled onto the first pile. :)
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgrad
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Tomhmok, so I shouldn't fire off a reply just after opening mail containing a yearly property tax billgr. (-: I'm currently using the 4.61 from the 6.0 updates mirror. Every time I sign-on my bank's web site they bug me about updating my browser or they'll cut off my access (has to do with 128 bit encryption). Well this seemed like a good time to upgrade the encryption, by downloading the new version and getting it with the 128 bit encryption. When I went to download it there was another choice to pay $5.95 and they's send a CD. That seemed like a good idea, so I did and now I'm waiting for it to arrive. But I do believe that I ordered the glibc version. Rats! (-: Alan Argh, thanks i forgot about testing the new encryption. Those are probably the biggest "sellers" for 4.7 -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan
RE: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
Ax, Thanks Ax. Paul Hoy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Axalon Bloodstone Sent: October 1, 1999 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM? Thanks Mike to be quite honest i fliped a mental coin between sgX and srX On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mike Fieschko wrote: "Axalon" == Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Axalon On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: [snip] Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun:00 Vendor: Umax, etc, etc Type: Scanner Axalon i don't think it's got one but if so it's /dev/sr1 [snip] On my machine $ls -l /dev/scanner returns /dev/scanner - /dev/sga And $find-scanner returns find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/scanner find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/sg0 find-scanner: found scanner "UMAX Astra 1200S V2.9" at device /dev/sga -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] Re:
AHHH!!! more HTML David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" **The falcon has heard the falconer** -Original Message- From: Javi Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:45 PM NEWBIE REMOVE
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer G2 Update
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Meanwhile I'm back to trying to figure out xcdroast. I hope to mount my windows files in linux and then have xcdroast copy and burn the mandrake 6.1 iso file I downloaded to windows. Here's a copy of how my setup at work looks at the windows partition. From /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /mnt/dosvfatdefaults0 0 The important thing to keep in mind is the type "vfat." This tells Linux that you're looking at a Win95/98 file system (fat32) instead of a 16-bit fat. Jonn Thanks for the info John I was just mounting it with /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos I'll add the extra language. Now doing this in the /etc/fstab will that add it to my startup menu somehow? I've printed the documentation that came with xcdroast and find the manual a little terse. Does anyone know of a location for a better explanation on how to set up and use xcdroast. I believe I've got the ide SCSI emulation thing worked out . I'd like to burn a cd this weekend. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
[newbie] Installation
Now that I can successfully post to the list, here is the account of my installation problems from last weekend. Greetings, I am currently running Mandrake 6.0, and it works pretty good. I've been interested in upgrading to 6.1, and ran into a bunch of difficulties with that. I'd like to do an upgrade instead of a clean install. I've got a cable modem, and decided to try a network install. Searching about the mandrake sight, I was disappointed by the lack of information explaining how to go about upgrading. There was plenty of info about doing a fresh install. I was also disappointed by lack of info about downloading the necessary files. For example, do I jsut get a bunch of rpms and rpm them, or is there more to it? (Note - If this sort of information is available on the mandrake page, please let me know). My description of the events that follows represents what I've learned as I've learned it through the installation process. I was kind of shooting in the dark at first. I connected to one of the FTP sights listed on the mandrake page, and found the 6.1 directory, and from there found the RPMS directory, which I downloaded. I was a bit skeptical of just rpming these newly-download rpms, so I poked around a bit at redhat's webpage. Here I found info stating that one should use the installer program even to do an upgrade. So I downloaded a boot image, and ran the installer (for a HD/CDROM install). However, it didn't find my mandrake directory tree. I wasn't sure waht else I needed. I then downloaded via FTP the instimage and base directories, and their recursive subdirectories and links. Here is my first question : what is the preferred method for downloading recursive directories, and also using links for file transfer? FTP choked at some of these, and I had to manually go in and make the links, which was a real pain in the butt. Anyway, the installer finally was able to see the directory tree, and went and loaded the ramdisk, and then searched for my installed RPMs, but then gave me the error "RPM Database Does Not Exist". I'm not sure if that's word for word, but that's essentially the error I got. I checked, and I do have my RPM directory under the mandrake tree, what does this error mean? Any other information would be heartily useful. For example, is it referring to the primary RPM logs for the system not existing, or is it this rpm directory that it cannot find?? Then i tried doing a net install, and used the netboot.img (or is that bootnet.img? i forget). This worked fine, and I was able to connect to the FTp site. However, this program choked, at a different point. It asked if I have SCSI devices, which i say no. then it downloads base/hdlists, which is a quite big file and takes awhile. then it asks again if I have SCSI devices, which I say no again. then it downloads base/hdlists again, and finally prints the error message that thhe device is busy. Which device is this talking about? my hard disk? I've tried this net installation various times, and keep getting the same error messages. Basically, I'm getting frustrated. i spent about 10 hours attempting this install on saturday, and I was pretty let down by the lack of information on mandrake's webpage. Again, if this info is there, please let me know where, and if not, I strongly suggest including it somewhere. As an aside, I'm finding that there is lots of linux help for newbies, and lots of help for expert folks, but for the intermediates it seems there is a large void. Anyway, I'd like to upgrade to 6.1, and I'd like to figure out how to do this without using a CDROM each time. If anyone can shed light on these error messages, please let me and any other clueless wannabe 6.1ers know. :-) Thanks alot! - wass
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer G2 Update
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: JeanetteI downloaded my G2 using the URL that you posted. When I bring up the program and click on the Help pull-down-menu (top right corner of the window) and choose the bottom item, About RealPlayer, it displays an applet that identifies the program like this: RealPlayer (tm) (Unix) Version 6.0.4.238 (Beta) What does yours say. Alan It says the same thing Alan. Jeanette Just to continue the confussion, our contact with them was told alpha, while I thought they had already finalized. Personaly i guess i'll trust the coder from now on who told it to print beta :)
Re: [newbie] File Structure
rpmfind's RDF was a killer browse the distribution tree, it allows you to s/was/had/
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgrad
On 01-Oct-99 Alan Shoemaker wrote: my access (has to do with 128 bit encryption). Well this seemed like a good time to upgrade the encryption, by downloading the new version and getting it with the 128 bit encryption. When I went to download it there was another choice to pay $5.95 and they's send a CD. That seemed like a good idea, so I did and now I'm waiting for it to arrive. But I do believe that I ordered the glibc version. Rats! (-: If you just use Navigator, and don't rely on Composer for making webpages, you'll probably be fine. The glibc version has been working fine for me and hasn't crashed, outside of when I tested inserting a link in Composer. I'm assuming java will probably randomly cause some instability, as usual, but nobody does anything -useful- with java so you can just disable it if it causes any crashes. :) For anyone who's reading this and wouldn't be needing to d/l Netscape anyway for the 128kb encryption, I'd recommend just sticking with the Netscape 4.61 rpm in Mandrake 6.1 (or the M 6.0 update directory). 4.7 adds nothing useful whatsoever for Linux users unless there's some hidden new feature they're not advertising (yeah, right). -Tom
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You, unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in the archives detailing the fix: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it was a problem with the mother board: $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax. AFAIK, it's certain CHIPSETS that have the problem...typically non-intel chipsets, of course. :-) Also, mostly non-intel processors (i.e. AMD K6, etc.) To me, this sounds more like a problem with APM support in non-Intel boxes, rather than "cheap" motherboards. Of course, I don't blame Mandrake, as they probably didn't write the APM drivers themselves I just wish Linux weren't so damned Intel-centric in this matter! :-) John
Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess
- Original Message - From: Frank Geter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess I have a Gateway Vivitron 1572, model cpd 15F13 Another one? - there's pattern forming here! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
- Original Message -
From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?
if !(axalon_on_track) {
And thus concludes the showing of "Axalons scsi ignorance"
}
I believe it's mainly scsi users whose name starts with A. So my personal
opinion is you get what you pay for, don't buy
a 50$ SCSI Cook book and expect great things, unless your last purchase was
a lottery ticket :)
Regards,
Ian
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Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)
- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Would this be the same software that Mandrake hangs the entire readability of the docs on? ;-) Remember that docs are more than anything else read by newbies (excuse the obvious [they don't read docs] remarks about newbies for a moment!) Sheeesh!!! is about right! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
RE: [newbie] Re:
we are all "genious" in our own way :)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P. Greenberg Sent: October 1, 1999 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Re: In HTML no less. What a Genious! David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" **The falcon has heard the falconer** -Original Message- From: Christopher John Cogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:19 PM newbie remove
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
Ok, got it. But how do I access the floppy drive? - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this. On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: I am having much the same problem with my Creative labs Banchee AGP card. It keep defaulting to 320X200 resolution. And it wont let me go any higher. go to http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/ and download the Banshee drivers for Linux. John
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan Apologies, now you all know why I don't write books, and why you don't see me listed as writing any of the documentation. I tend to confuse 75% of any given group of people. (you can see how that gets hairy on a one to one basis) :-) Not knowing what you ordered from where, they'll probably send you a windows disc.. I was told of the release mere moments before it hit slashdot, and was only able to get the part of the files before the @home link to netscape went down. Untill i get time to test them all on a 6.1 system, mine has cooker on it right now, I still stand by "stick with what you've got, unless it doesn't work at all". Of course if anyone does decide to upgrade (its your system after all), This is the perfect place to discuss success or failure as always.. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)
bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Would this be the same software that Mandrake hangs the entire readability of the docs on? ;-) Remember that docs are more than anything else read by newbies (excuse the obvious [they don't read docs] remarks about newbies for a moment!) Sheeesh!!! is about right! Maybe Mandrake would be better off opening a documentation window using kfm. It's part of the KDE environment, it's a familiar tool for new users, and it doesn't have the "offline hanging" problem that Netscape does. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Ok, got it. But how do I access the floppy drive? Two wayseither stick the disk in the floppy and click on the "floppy icon" on your desktop (assuming you have one) or, open up a console/Konsole window and type "mount /mnt/floppy." Then, copy the RPM file to your hard drive, SU to root and type "rpm -i filename.some.version.i386.rpm" John
Re: [newbie] Yet more video configuration problems...
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hi all, I've just installed Mandrake 6.0 on a Celeron 433mhz w/64MB RAM I'm having all kinds of problems trying to get the video working in KDE. My video card is a Diamond SpeedStar A70 (OEM) w/8MB I did some poking around on the Diamond website. I found out that this video card uses the SiS 6326 chipset. That *should* use the XF86_SVGA server in the latest release of X, though *shrug* Maybe if you tell X that it's an SIS6326 video card, it might recognize it better. Good luck! John
[newbie] Printing Advice
Hi all. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it's possible (and how), I could set up to do my printing in "book" form. You know, two sides of the page? I'm wasting a lot of paper here! I can't find any such option anywhere, even man lpr. I'm using a HP Deskjet 692-C, Mandrake 6.1. TIA
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
I'm not convinced a past discussion confirms all that much myself - now if
this machine did not shut down right with the other OS I'd say you had a
point - because that would put it firmly in the category of flawed apm/acpi
machines that most of us that care already know all about. There are a lot
of machines which display the tendency not to work right in this dept.
However if in this instance this machine can perform this function, I am
lead to the conclusion that an os issueing the commands CAN make it happen
on this set of kit - so why not just issue the right commands - evidently
something else is happening here - otherwise it would not shutdown correctly
in BOTH cases.
Now whether there's a case for a further reduced hardware list to be
introduced making certain models of mainboard and their bios sets "not
supported under linux" is another matter entirely.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
And what, in your opinion, have they done wrong?
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Done that - it causes new problems all of it's own. Which prevent it getting
that far in the shut down process.
Want reasonable priced Linux systems?
Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
What? you trying to sell me something here? ;-)
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Sorry officer did not see your badge - where you get that from then? I like
the bit where it says judge! ;-P
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
I don't remember addressing this to you specifically - why the poor
attitude? - no matter
I have, and it's a broken fix under 6.1
Do you have anything empirical under 6.1 to offer?
Regards,
Ian
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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Want reasonable priced Linux systems? Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
You know I just wrote you the stinking reply you deserved for a lot of
that - and then used
some intelligence, and trashed it (it was a belter too!) - fact is a lot of
what you say is based
on some incorrect assumptions - things about my system you could not
possibly know, actions which I might have taken which you do not know about.
Mostly though if you ever want to upset me, then get judgemental - that'll
do it every time - but it will get ugly at that point - you have been
warned! ;-)
A good number of the questions you posed seemed to be rhetoric or at least
show
great potential for it, but if you care to post those you really would have
liked
an answer to, then I'll naturally spend time on them.
Just remember, one OS involved does issue a shutdown, and the machine does.
For that reason there's only so far I CAN go go along with your theory.
Regards,
Ian
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[newbie] PGCC src
Please, help me :-) I can't compile pgcc1.1.3.src.rpm. Seem to be something wrong on my system ( Mandrake 6.1 ) --- In file included ...limits.h:117 from include/limits.h:117 include/syslimits.h:7 include/limits.h:11 . /usr/include/limits.h:132 no include path in wich to find limits.h libgcc2.a error --- I can compile just about everything. My big problem is PGCC and GTK--- Please, tell me how to solve this Many thanks Alessandro
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)
Well what is the story with netscape then? Someone has to know. Are they programming the browser 100% in win32? and assuming that it will work on linux?? Why is 4.x so crappy what went wrong?
RE: [newbie] Re:
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, PaulHoy wrote: we are all "genious" in our own way :)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P. Greenberg Sent: October 1, 1999 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Re: --Hi paul. Just noticed that little fox pass m'damn self. David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" *Confirmed Linux Newbie* **Never use a big word when substituting a diminutive one would suffice.**
Re: [[newbie] ARGGGGGG]
"RiNgMaStEr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone please please easily show me how to get of this dang mailing list == Welcome to the Hotel California... :o( ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] PGCC src
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, allxsan wrote: Please, help me :-) I can't compile pgcc1.1.3.src.rpm. Seem to be something wrong on my system ( Mandrake 6.1 ) --- In file included ...limits.h:117 from include/limits.h:117 include/syslimits.h:7 include/limits.h:11 . /usr/include/limits.h:132 no include path in wich to find limits.h libgcc2.a error --- I can compile just about everything. My big problem is PGCC and GTK--- Please, tell me how to solve this Many thanks Alessandro rpm -q glibc-devel rpm -V glibc-devel Says whats? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mike Fieschko wrote: "Phil" == Phil Thornley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil Yep! And it even runs KDE. You installed Mandrake on a 486? Well, am I then mistaken in my understanding that Mandrake requires a 586 / Pentium or higher to run / install? If I am not mistaken, how did you get it installed and running on a 486? The same reason you can stick a 166mhz overdrive in some 486 motherboards or play some "pentium" games on those same boards.
Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset
- Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hopefully the VIA chipset doesn't have this problem?? The MVP does, I believe. Now feeling officially discouraged! Starting to wonder if I ought to come back later when it's all a bit more "machine that I can afford" friendly? I dunno - I really don't shrug OK, it's not linux flaw per se, but it's starting to stack it all up a bit! I had thought/hoped that linux might be the item for the job in the emerging far east market - the machine will have to cost very little in that arena, and an os which costs effectively half the cost of the machine would be badly placed. So I thought in view of that, Linux would have serious hopes of becoming a contender in the defacto standard dept. but with this and other recently revealed issues of hardware - well it's just not going to be is it? It a damn shame to see it miss the "global bus" for these sorts of problems. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape to support 128bit encryption. I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to mind, but I think that's an SSL util). Searching Google or Freshmeat for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)
- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk) Iantake it easy. No, the default for the help files is a form of KFM not Netscape. Axalon, although habitually a bit terse is usually a big help to just about everyone. (-: He's fine it's the concept I have an issue with - I can be a bit terse myself when things like that happen! ;-) Don't have time for "easy" - gotta make sure this one don't go Amiga shaped! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Steve Philp wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape to support 128bit encryption. I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to mind, but I think that's an SSL util). Searching Google or Freshmeat for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though. -- Steve Philp Steveyep, '"netscape encryption" fortify' on google found it. I'm downloading now. Thanks. Alan
RE: [newbie] File Structure
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: I thought he just wanted a hierarchical tree of the filesystem. The newbie that I am, I was simply thinking of the tree command. Isn't this what he wants?? Makes sense to me, another handy rpm trick with the cdrom / local mirror.. cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS rpm -qp --filesbypkg *.rpm /some/file
Re: [newbie] Large HDD how to partition??
newbie remove
Re: [newbie] Problems with 6.1 install
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Chris Smallhorne wrote: Pedro Timoteo wrote: Chris Smallhorne wrote: I have recently upgraded to v6.1. Since that time, I am no longer able to run anything when I su from a terminal. For example, if I try to run control-panel, i get the following: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server That is supposed to happen. The X session is "yours", not root's, therefore when you "su" you don't have the DISPLAY environment variable set. A simple "export DISPLAY=0:0" solves it, though. Next question - where and when do I do this? Do I ave to do it every time, or is it a setting I can put into a config file? Thanks, Chris. Thats incorrect, you should run 'xhost +local:' 'xhost +localhost' or learn to use xauth to add you X keys to root's .Xauthority. And you'd need to run it before su'ing -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Thanks? Axalon, but what you have written here means absolutely nothing to me. When am I supposed to enter these commands, and how frequently? What is xauth and what does it do? These problems never occurred in v6.0 - why should they start happening now? Chris.
Re: [Re: [newbie] Ears dont work]
- Original Message - From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Ears dont work] Michael, Easy here Ian, I'm not sure you are even aware of which poster you are addressing. I know exaclty who I was addressing thank you. Can only suggest you re-read it join me. I believe your original assault was on Axalon. Indirectly, and in a reply to another - yes. And you'll have to trust me on this, but that was NOT an assault. ;-) Now you're responding to Steve Philps response to your original assault. Quite so, and there we go with the assault stuff again. You did NOT write hime the "stinking response" HE deserved. Oh yes I did. You wrote to Ax. Not once, on this issue, at that time. Anyway, that's all beside the point I must disagree - it's almost the entire point! Stop being so sensitive. Well you just do the insensitive for me - ok! You'll be fine. Both Steve and Ax are among the most knowledgeable people on this list. Fine. Sure seemed that way to me - there's others I'd like to mention, but that'd be a waste of space and time. They don't monitor a newbie list because they need advice. Does seem a tad unlikely doesn't it. They give it freely. Fine - as you say, freely, ie no strings right? You and I are here to learn. Indeed so. Let's NOT bl;ast those that are in the best position to give us support. Let's apply our own personal values to ourselves where they best belong shall we? They might be good for us, but not for everyone else. I would never dream of letting someone think that I thought they were ok just so I could get some info out of them - which appears to be what you are hinting at in there. On the other hand people always know exactly where they stand with me - I tend to be direct, but it's my choice, I expect to earn their respect for that much, not demand it like some would. People are free to choose on that. === Mostly though if you ever want to upset me, then get judgemental - that'll do it every time - but it will get ugly at that point - you have been warned! ;-) == Even with the emoticon, that sounds too much like a threat. don't be so ridiculous, now who's acting too sensitive - do the phrases "ironic humour" and "satire" hold any meaning meaning for you? It's just (slightly darker than most) humour - grow up, stand up, and deal with it. Cool it I have no idea who you THINK you are - but you appear to be in error. young man. I'll thank you for that if little else - it's been a while. ;-) It's been great Michael, and now it's over. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
[newbie] VoodooII Banshee
hello, i am new to Mandrake, and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get drivers for the voodooII banshee. thanks, chris cook
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work You know I just wrote you the stinking reply you deserved for a lot of that - and then used some intelligence, and trashed it (it was a belter too!) OOPS! Seems fate has decicded it would get posted too - not sure how that happened, I DID bin it (twice!) all enquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Good job the very first draft never went - we don't need /another/ international incident on the planet! You'll notice that I've chosen to reply to this message instead of the prior two. Primarily, it's because you want to believe that I'm picking on you for some reason and that was not my intention in posting my previous reply. You initially asked about a problem that ocurred during shutdown. Between incorrect answers, Axalon and I both pointed you to the fact that there are incompatible BIOSes floating around that cause problems when attempting to use automatic powerdown on ATX motherboards. I have pointed you toward the linux-kernel archives for a discussion of the problem because the details weren't important to me at the time I read them on that list. If you've since solved the problem, I'm happy for you. However, please don't look this gift horse in the mouth. This mailing list and the people who populate it provide our help, advice and time simply for the joy of helping out other users. With the kind of bitch slaps you threw in the prior two messages, it makes me wonder just why many of us try helping. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] X-development Libraries: Filename?
Which RPM contains the X-Windows development libaries? I need them to install the Qt plugin that comes with Licq. -- /-|rcana - - * - - Pern - Araby Weyr: http://members.tripod.com/~Araby/ FF7 - Tales of Midgar: http://members.tripod.com/~ArcanaTxM/ Xenogears - DeM: http://members.tripod.com/~project_xat/ Xenogears - Guardian Angels: http://guardian.zenogias.com/
Re: [newbie] IP Masquerading...?
Arcana wrote: OKAY, it works again. I typed in the command to "turn on IP forwarding" (like, echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding or something) and everything runs like magic again. So, the million buck question is... ... how do I keep the option turned "on"? Sorry for the big snip at the top, but since you're really just looking for how to automatically set this at bootup at this point, I left that part in. You'll want to add the 'echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding' command to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local. It'll be run each time you boot. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
