[newbie] Mandrake 6.1
Hello from Downunder. As a happy and contented user of Mandrake 5.3 I was a little tentative about 'updating' to 6.1. I had good reason! 6.1 has more bugs than my bed! For instance; the bootloader won't load LILO onto hdb1, at least not the first time. Many of the program icons on the desktop just look at you whwn you attempt to load the application...too many to list. But the daddy of them all is the cute German/English message.. "The file as a revision date in the future. This probably means that you system time is wrong or as been wrong at some point." Ratsarse!! The installation program can't tell the difference between EST (Australian) and GMT ( or UTC if you will)!! Consequently many files have tomorrow's date, and the above message comes up each and every time one is envoked. Jesus, if I'd wanted all these hassles I could have installed Winblows 98!! Why must you people release such buggy software? Haven't you learnt ANYTHING from Gill Bates? I'm off to purchase SuSe (or is it sUsE hi ) tomorrow...nothing's cheap if it doesn't work. Oh, and don't waste your time flaming me. I've already quit this list. Good riddance to bad rubbish! Laurie Dare
Re: [newbie] the GPL effect ?
The thing new users need to understand is that Linux is something like an accident. First, Linus Torvalds (hope I spelled his name right!) produced the kernel, then put it on the web. Next others saw the kernel and added other software until it became an OS. The only thing is that it did not become just one OS, it became perhaps hundreds of OS's. The answer to the question "Is there any order under the GPL" is no. Linux is a work of chaos, chance, and perhaps love. The people who produced the superb elements we use with our Linux distributions, whether it be RedHat, Mandrake, Suse, or any of the uncounted others did so out of love for the challenge, or as a growth exercise, or for any number of other reasons at which we can only guess (perhaps to be a thorn in Bill's backside). The bottom line for me, is that since I got all my hardware to work correctly with Linux, it has not crashed or frozen even one time in something over a month. On the other hand, in my Win95 installation, I experience Explorer crashes at least three (3) times a week. This to me makes Linux well worth the effort to get it to work with my hardware. Which distribution to use is dependent upon the individual users needs, likes, and desires. For some, perhaps for many, the choice of any Linux distribution is not the correct answer at all. The learning curve is indeed steep, and many may lack either the time or the desire to put in the effort to learn to use Linux effectively. Add to this the fact that not all hardware is supported, and getting Linux to work on an individual machine may require some component replacement. One last thought occurs to me. A wise old mentor once told me in my youth that "there aint no free lunch". In terms of OS's, this means to me that you can pay for your OS with hard cold cash, or with blood, sweat, and tears, but either way, you will pay. Now, on the plus side, when you do get Linux to work with your hardware, you will have learned perhaps more about your 'puter than you ever wanted to know, and you will enjoy the satisfaction and pride of your accomplishment, and no small deed will it be. Well I sure can ramble, so I'll try to get back to your question. The advantage of Linux is that there is no aparent order, and that is its disadvantage as well. This aparent lack of order has played a role in making Linux the superb entity it has become. It also makes figuring out which distro is for you hard and uncertain. Ernie On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Aldo Solari [APS] wrote: Redhat becomes Mandrake and Mandrake becomes Macmillan which is sold by the "Mighty Mouse" at Pepito's Taco Bar under the Trade Mark of Dr. Vampire :-) Is there any order under the GPL ? Cheers, APS ] From: "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Just tossing in my 2 cents worth. Macmillan Publishing is just that...
Re: [newbie] Office Suites
I can't afford that either (T1), I just heard that the cost was dropping, and added it in with the other ideas presented. I will most likely go with my local cable provider sometime in the next year. They charge $40.00 per month for unlimited service, and guarentee 512 K per second. I'll have to look more closely befoer I make the move, but on the surface, it doesn't look too bad from here. They have just changed to digital from coaxial cable region wide, so I'll wait a while to let them iron the out wrinkles. I'm a city dweller, so my options are fairly broad. Like I said, I got some researching to do before I make any changes. Maybe you have a cable provider in your area who provides internet access? Could be worth the look. Ernie On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." wrote: That'l make it tough to get the stuff you want, no matter which way you go. Maybe you should talk to your local phone co. and see what the damage would be to go with either an ADSL, or a T1 line (I think that's the right term). ADSL might be a bit iffy since it is not available everywhere, but maybe the T1 line might be an option. You could get better bandwidth than with your 33.6 modem (I think you would have to replace the modem), and the line noise issue would be greatly diminished if not eliminated all together. The down side will be that the cost will undoubtedly be higher, and likely considerably so. But it can't hurt to check. There may also be connection options that I know nothing about since I have only used a modem. Maybe someone else can pass along some suggestions as to what you might consider as viable alternatives to a niosy phone line. Ernie On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: Ernest: the problem here is I am 90 miles from any place that would even resemble a book store or even a computer place. we do have a radio shack but they just carry DSS and Cell phones. so I had no choice... but the thing is I used Go!Zilla which allowed me to stop the download in mid stream and continue on later. so most of the time I setup Go!Zilla to start downloading from 11:00p till 7:00a and it took about 2 weeks to get the whole thing.. During the day its a pain also, becuase the lines and ISP gets congested and I have alot of line noise and can't get the full 33.6 transfer during the day. On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:07:40 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is as large as a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in one bite, for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the CD from my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy. That's more than I would have to pay from Mandrakesoft, but I don't have to hold my breath waiting for the CD to be delivered, and I don't have to tie up my phone line for all those hours (I have only one line here, and it is shared with the household telephone). I will likely be trying to get it installed tomorrow or the next day, if work permitts. It'll be interesting to see if I have any of the troubles the other guys have had getting it to work properly. The one thing I would like to have happen, would be for Linux-Mandrake (the official release) to be available at one of my local software stores. Maybe for the next release, I'll get my front side ahead of my backside, and look on the Mandrake site for a vendor in my area. It'd be just my luck that it's allready here, and I just don't know about it. Ernie On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: Ernest.. 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot of line noise on my end didn't help matters either! On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:32:16 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a word processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete office suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this baby is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search "StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From there you can check out the features, system requirements and even do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the download is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or an ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6 Hrs. on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the above is overkill for your needs, you
Re: [newbie] DNS Server for Mandrake?
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 12:22:53AM -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: Hello, Does anyone know the name of the DNS RPM package that comes with Mandrake? bind, bind-utils, bind-devel -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Q about excessive HDD swapping when in KDE
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, you wrote: In the KDE environment as root, navigate to the /etc folder, and right-click the lilo.conf file, then select "text editor". Add the line below in the image section: append="mem=128M' Include the quotes this time. The line is just above the read only line in my lilo.conf file. This should help. It is my understanding that by default, Linux will use 64 Meg of RAM, and the above line will tell Linux to use the amount stated. Then save the file, and run lilo from a konsole window. This will re-configure the boot loader, then when you are finished, re-start your system, and you should be using all 128 Meg of RAM. I hope this helps, Actually, the amount of RAM the system will use depends solely on the system. Some systems (such as my home machine) will autodetect ram greater than 64 megs. I think it depends somewhat on the BIOS/motherboard. John I'd believe it. I got the parameter out of the RedHat 5.2 Instalation Guide, and it helped my old box to work better, and it sounded like maybe the above was a similar problem, so I passed it on. Ernie
Re: Fw: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
Yup. you found both the settings that can make you send HTML email in OutLook Express. It's a shame that the Redmond boys don't set up the defaults for good net ettiquet. But then the Netscape guys don't do it either. Go figgure. As far as the Donnie issue, at least from where I sat, it looked like most of the flaming was in responce to his reaction to being told to turn off the HTML. But I hope it's over, such a terrible wast of time and bandwidth ( I had something to say on the subject as well as others ). Ernie On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Simon Norris wrote: Not to worry, I found my problem. FYI, there is an option in Outlook, 'reply to messages in the format in which they were sent' , which when checked, inherits the original poster's format. Selecting the plain text option is not enough. The post I was replying to was HTML without my knowledge. - Original Message - From: Simon Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML Just a quick query, not really suited to this group, but necessary just the same. I have been using Outlook for some time now, and have had no problems sending plain text. Unfortunately, I have just sent a post to this group, and got a courteous comment directly to me asking for me to drop my HTML. All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? The way I have Outlook is that there is no visible difference between plain text and HTML, so whenever I see someone ask for HTML to be dropped, I haven't got a clue whats going on!! I would like to add my assistance to this group, as they have given me lots of ideas for things to do and I'd like to give something back, however I have no intention of receiving a similar flurry of comments as Donny did, for sending HTML (Although he did give as good as he got!!). As far as the comments about filtering HTML, that would be useful for us poor sods stuck with Outlook, who don't even know whether they're sending plain text or HTML!! Thanks for your generous assistance. Simon - Original Message - From: Eric Mings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML Based on the number of "remove" requests posted to the list, the actual number of people who actually *READ* the welcome message is probably quite small. Thus, the chances of the "Nettiquette" tutorial having any effect is negligible. However, if it saved us ONE post in HTML, I suppose it'd be worth it, and it wouldn't be that much trouble, as it would automatically go out with the 'welcome' message... just create that "nettiquette" tutorial once and it would go out automatically from there. :-) John There is another solution if the list owner chose to implement it. Although I am relatively new to linux, I have run large volumn discussions lists for several years. We have implemented a filter on our lists that rejects all attempts to send attachements to the list, and ALSO _rejects_ all HTML formatted email. Works great! Put the guidlines in the welcome message and let them figure out themselves why none of their postings make it to the list if they choose to ignore the guidlines. If they contact the list manager about it, I tell them what the problem is and how to fix it. FWIW I would also recommend that whoever is running this list take a more visible and active approach in dealing with list problems so that members don't feel they need to fight out the issues on the list that should be delt with by the list manager. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [newbie] New Mandrake 6.1 install
But it is with such experimentation that we really learn. Ernie On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends; I hope I can serve as a good object lesson to all other newbies: I messed with my X Font Server trying to install Win31 fonts into the ttfonts directory. Didn't work, broke my Font Server. Finally decided it would be best to just download Mandrake all over again. It's certainly worth it. Did it this morning. Just finished organizing my desktop. Exhausted. Been up all night without sleep. My thanks to everyone who must have been confused by my contradictory statements, not once but twice tonight. I was trying to fix the problem without having to bite the bullet and do a complete restore, not an upgrade, but a new install. Well, finally decided to get it over with so I could enjoy Linux and get a good night's sleep. My thanks to everyone again. Hope to be much more careful in the future. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] Items of interest
Sam wrote: If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux server, you might be interested in this. Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed to you for free. Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or support w/ the freebie. Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
Re: [newbie] SBLive 6.1
Civileme wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2259636,00.html If it is still there, it's a step-by-step. Civileme "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Has anyone been able to get an SBLive or PCI512 working with Mandrake 6.1 yet. I know someone was working on this once upon a time but haven't heard from them in a while. Regards , Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ... (put this in .signature to avoid overzealous error messages) Thanks, I'll give it a bash g tonight. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Items of interest
Ditto. Bryan Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/99 07:49:04 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest Sam wrote: If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux server, you might be interested in this. Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed to you for free. Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or support w/ the freebie. Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
[newbie] Instalation Problems
I just got my CheapBytes Mandrake 6.1 CD and I can't get it to install.I have a Promise Ultra66, and a 13G hard drive connected to it. I read theUltraDMA mini HowTO, so to start my installation I type "linuxide2=0x14c8,0x14be ide3=0x14c0,0x14ba" This seems to work because I can seemy hard drive. My hard drive contains a 9Gig FAT32 partition for Win98.First I tried the workstation setup just to make my life easy, and it said"not enough disk space." I then tried custom setup, but when I try tocreate my root partition, it keeps telling me the "boot partition is toobig" It doesn't matter how big(3098M) or small(1M) I make it, itkeeps telling me the same thing. I connected the hard drive to my EIDEinterface and am having the same problem. As usual, I'm sure it's somethingI'm doing, but any help would be appreciated.Collin J. Davidson
Re: [newbie]OT Items of interest
Same here. Generally what I have found is that if it errors out on such things, then tells you the name is taken you DID join, but there was some funky error that prevented you from getting the message. So you and i have several memberships now. :) -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 Original Message On 10/19/99, 4:49:04 AM, Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Items of interest: Sam wrote: If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux server, you might be interested in this. Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed to you for free. Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or support w/ the freebie. Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
What version of Outlook are you using? I have Outlook 98 and that option is not present. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? Yes. Under tools options send There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format the sender used. Deselect the choice.
Re: [newbie] terminal related lockups
I am not sure if our problems are one and the same but I had this problem on my laptop. Occasionally, the system will lock the keyboard and the mouse and I had to switch it off and on to continue...but a quick look at the clock showed that the system is still running. I was desperate and wrote a script that will reboot the machine if it cannot find a certain file in the /tmp directory. every now and then it checks the directory and removes it if it is present and checks back after an interval...which means every now and then i have to touch the file in the directory...i know it seems stupid but at least the machine can shutdown cleanly without me having to sit through an fsck whenever this happens The wierd thing is that since i implemented this script the problem has been so infrequent that is has almost (touch wood) disappeared! I cannot explain this X-filish phenomenon but this is just my 2 cents... On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 05:57:39AM +, pete moss wrote: i know, i have mentioned this before, but i am still having problems. anytime i open a terminal (xterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) from within X, the computer completely locks up and i have to hit reset. if i start the terminal from a virtual terminal (alt+F2) then it runs fine. i am running mandrake 6.1. i didnt have this problem with 6.0. i have reinstalled several packages that seem to be affected, but no luck. it seems like there is a software problem outside of the affected programs that might be causing this. anyone know how i can track down this problem? it is hindering some of my work in linux. please pass the slightest bit of info! thanks! :P ps - is there a quick way to reinstall all of the currently installed packages from the cdrom? i would like to avoid redoing a fresh install. == E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ No.: 38756924 ==
Re: [newbie] Fw: mandrake 6.1 and xf86 bugged?
I have the same problem with you. Please share with me the solution if you get one. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Ken Davis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 8:50 AM Subject: mandrake 6.1 and xf86 bugged? Hi, I have a problem getting my #9 Imagine 128 series 2 4mb video card to work with Mandrake 6.1. I am also using a Hitachi superscan elite 751 (hitachi cm751 choice in setup). The problem is that during setup, the screen flashes several times, and it comes back saying it cannot set any display modes. I have used this setup in rh5.2, rh6.0 and mandrake 5.2 previously with no problems. If I goto the command prompt and run Xconfigurator I get the same type of errors during setup. During setup probe, it does detect my #9 pci card correctly. If I run startx, I get the error, a configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved. It is also running the I128 server which is the correct server for the card. I checked the xf86 faq and it says this card is completly compatible and does not require any settings, ie ramdac and clock settings. SuperProbe also seems to correctly identify the video card. I have also deleted and re-installed several times and removed all other cards from the system except for a pci network card (which also does not work, but thats another thread), and an sb awe32. Also, during the startx screen, it shows several lines of deleting needs hsync freq .xxx deleted for various resolutions, it shows a line (--) I128:I128-II revision (0) (--)I128: card type: pci (**)I128: vidram: 4096k I128: ibm526 ramdac not found Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Re: [newbie] sound card install and video adjustments
Hello, Does anyone have experience getting a CMI 8338 chip sound card to work with Linux. Supports lists the CMI 8330 chip but not the 8338. I've tried every card driver in the list and no luck. I do get some trace of sound with a few of the choices, but I have to turn the speakers on full power and I can barely hear it. I have a couple ESS boards coming in the mail this week, so I'll probably switch to one of those. I gave up on getting the SiS5597 on-board video to work and switched to a ATI Mach 64 2Mb PCI. I did try using the XFree86 3.3.5 but when I run XF86Setup, I couldn't get it to work...couldn't get it to reconfigure back to VGA16...so I end up reinstalling Linux each time. The ATI card works well except I can't figure out how to change resolution. I'm currently at 1024x768x16bit. Do I use xf86config? Whenever I run this program I seen to get problems as a result. This program asks for monitor information "free form" and when I put my monitor info in, I get errors relating to monitor selection on restart. When I installed Mandrake, I was give a list to choose from, but in xf86config, I get no list...thus the info I put in is aparently invalid. How do I use xf86config just to change one thing, or can't I? What info do I use for the monitor (I can't remember the list verbatim)? Can I use "CUSTOM"? I also have a problem with the modem, which I believe is a winmodem as it is somehow tied to the sound card (probably for voice functions). If I disable the onboard sound, I loose the modem too. So I have picked up a Zoom V.90 modem also. I hope that once I put the ESS sound and Zoom modem in, I'll be full functional. Thanks, Tony Z.
Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
It's actually Outlook Express 5, the one that's attached to IE 5, rather than Office. - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML What version of Outlook are you using? I have Outlook 98 and that option is not present. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? Yes. Under tools options send There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format the sender used. Deselect the choice.
[newbie] Installing from other packages
Hello, Is it possible to install an app from one Linux package into another? I have a SuSE 6.2 with StarOffice (among others) and I would like to be able to install it in Mandrake. If this can be done, how so? I have Mandrake 6.1 CD-ROM only, not the commercial distribution. When I've tried to install SuSE, the options are there to install the applications. How would I install these under Mandrake? and Would the StarOffice distributed with the commercial SuSE 6.2 only work with SuSE 6.2 (another words, is it licenced for use only with SuSE)? Thanks, Tony Z.
Fw: [newbie] Items of interest
And I forgot to mention, it's open to the rest of the world, not just US like the red hat signup!! - Original Message - From: Simon Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest As an exponent of the Oracle suite, you might also like to know that all of the Linux Oracle products, including 8i and their web server, are available if you join the Oracle Technet. If anyone is interested in the slightest in getting Oracle products, it is well worth signing up. The products are either available on CD, or downloadable straight from the site, for those of you with fast connections (Most are actually available as split files, for slower connections). The licenses are all development single user licenses. Well worth every penny of download costs, or in the case of CD, the media costs!! For those of you NT owners, there is an equivalent Oracle suite for you there aswell. The additional support (newsgroups, sample code, etc) is also very well maintained. Head over to http://technet.oracle.com for more info. - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest Sam wrote: If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux server, you might be interested in this. Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed to you for free. Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or support w/ the freebie. Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
Re[2]: [newbie] the GPL effect ?
Ernie: I share much of what you say in your poster. You have a very nice insight into Linux, indeed. Maybe this chaos is the kind of "productive order" needed for new ideas to come up. Cheers, APS Tuesday, October 19, 1999, 10:26:37 AM, you wrote: ENWJ The thing new users need to understand is that Linux ENWJ ...
RE: [newbie] KDE help files are missing Kmail app won't start
Thanks for the help. I reinstalled from the CD the kdelib package as recommended and everything is working fine. I greatly appreciate the help. Frank Geter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Philp Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE help files are missing Kmail app won't start Frank Geter wrote: I recently purchased a CD-ROM of Mandrake 6.1 from Linux Mall. I did a workstation install (not an upgrade) to my Gateway Pentium 100 PC. To my delight this fixed my video problems with my monitor that I was having under 6.0 but now Kmail will not start and KDE help files are missing. In addition the icons on the KFM viewer are screwed up. It appears that the necessary files to define the icons are missing as well. I makes me wonder if Linux Mall sent me a beta of 6.1 instead of the final version of 6.1. This problem has been hitting alot of people lately. The first thing you should try is reinstalling the kdelib package from the CDROM. Does anyone from MandrakeSoft have a clue about why this is happening? What's wrong with these CDs that people are getting broken installs? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Interesting sound problem
Hi, I've got Mandrake 6.0 installed and running pretty well (for a while now). The only real problem I'm having is that sound doesn't play IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. For instance, the KDE startup sounds play fine. I can do a: cat test.wav /dev/dsp just fine and a: cat test.au /dev/audio works as well. What doesn't work is sound from an MP3 player (the default KDE MP3 player) or a movie (AVI, MOV, whatever) in either KAction or xanim. Any pointers? ~Mike
Re: [newbie] Items of interest
Jeanette Russo wrote: Sam wrote: If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux server, you might be interested in this. Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed to you for free. Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or support w/ the freebie. Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette Well, try going to www.sgi.com and see how much luck you have registering for their 1400L Server giveaway. It appears you must approach using windows or else. Civileme
Re: [newbie] SCSI support
From: Ronald A. Yacketta have you tried to recompile you kernel with scsi support? what brand is the scsi card? the modules might already be compiled and you just need to instmod/modprobe them Jesse Royall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/99 11:19:32 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: [newbie] SCSI support Is there a way I can enable SCSI support without having to reinstall Linux? Everywhere I look to install a Zip Drive (parallel) you have to have the SCSI enabled at Install. And of course. Thinking I would not need the Zip for anything (and probably still don't) I started to try to install it just in case. Jess ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
Re: [newbie] sound card install and video adjustments
- Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] sound card install and video adjustments Either that, or choose "xf86setup" to reconfigure your X instead of XF86Config. Good luck! John Thanks John, Since I have graphics working going into xf86setup will work... TZ
[newbie] mt-st-rsh
Hello, I have an old (early 1980's) Telebyte TDX 1600 BPI tape drive. I have the DOS software to run it, but was just wondering if anyone else has attempted to use something like this with Linux. I believe the card for it is a Pertec interface? if that helps. I occasionaly get people who want me to dump a mag tape for them, and hey, if I can get away from DOS..;-) I read from man mt, but don't know if that will work. I found links to mt-st-rsh, but the wording of mt-st-rsh to me, wasn't clear on what drives it would work with either. Any ideas? Thanks, Bryan
[newbie] Sound
Hi, Running KDE1.1.1, Mandrake6.0. Whenever I boot up my notebook(not often- about once a week), I do not get any sound until I run sndconfig. Everything runs fine on the sndconfig, and then it tells me that I already have a config file and would I like to overwrite. I hit yes and I'm away. It's more irritating that anything else. My initial trouble shooting brought me to realise that one of the problems was because my FDD (external - from the parallel port) and the sound card was like seeing who would get the first DMA. But, if I leave my FDD continuously plugged in, I would still get this problem. Same problems encountered when I was running RH6.0. Any suggestions, anyone? -- Ronald Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] [OT] Just tried kmail!
Interesting, I've never even thought of doing that I have a download directory in my Kpanel, so I usually just wait until I surf to something I like, open the download directory (which starts a new window) and drag the link / FTP icon across to it... Thats what I love about Linux...there's so may different ways of doing things :) On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, you wrote: I have, after much trial and error, figured out how to use kfm for ftp. I open up the tree view and drag the file I want from the file view window onto the directory in the tree I want to place it in. It works for me! Hope this helps. Frank Geter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] Just tried kmail! On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, you wrote: John, All your talk about k-mail made me try it out. It's really ok! I like it better than Netscape, but you are absolutely right about the HTML! It produces nothing but headaches! I'll probably keep using it for my email, now that I tried it. Now if KDE would only get the browser window to be able to handle ftp, I'd be all set. I'd never have any need to go back to Windoze at all. Just thought I'd let you know, you have made a convert of at least me. Glad you like it! :-) I've been corresponding with the current author of KDE and he seems to have a few good ideas on how to keep it updated and add some "bugfixes." As for the KFM window, I've never successfully used it for FTP, but I've read others have, so keep trying... :-) I think the trick is to make two KFM windows and drag -n- drop the file from one to the other. :-) That's too much trouble for me, so I'll just open up a Konsole window and use NCFTP. :-) John
Re: [newbie] sound card install and video adjustments
- Original Message - From: Tony Zocolillo I gave up on getting the SiS5597 on-board video to work and switched to a ATI Mach 64 2Mb PCI. I did try using the XFree86 3.3.5 but when I run XF86Setup, I couldn't get it to work...couldn't get it to reconfigure back to VGA16...so I end up reinstalling Linux each time. The ATI card works well except I can't figure out how to change resolution. I'm currently at 1024x768x16bit. Do I use xf86config? Whenever I run this program I seen to get problems as a result. This program asks for monitor information "free form" and when I put my monitor info in, I get errors relating to monitor selection on restart. When I installed Mandrake, I was give a list to choose from, but in xf86config, I get no list...thus the info I put in is aparently invalid. How do I use xf86config just to change one thing, or can't I? What info do I use for the monitor (I can't remember the list verbatim)? Can I use "CUSTOM"? SiS chipsets don't do the VGA mode that XF86setup needs. type Xconfigurator enter at command line follow the prompts see: http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/manuals/RHL-6.0-Manual/install-guide/manu al/doc064.html#i369 as a guide. -Warren.
Re: [newbie] Netscape Bookmarks
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hi everybody. Iam using Mandrake 6.1 and my Netscape lose my Bookmarks savings every time when I loggin. Someone knows what is happening? Check your ~/.Netscape directory and see if there is a "lock" file. If there is, delete it. John
Re: [newbie] Items of interest
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Well, try going to www.sgi.com and see how much luck you have registering for their 1400L Server giveaway. It appears you must approach using windows or else. Do you mean the following URL I just entered using Netscape 4.7 under RedHat 6.0? http://www.sgi.com/software/linux/contest/register.html? :-) John
Re: [newbie] SCSI support
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Is there a way I can enable SCSI support without having to reinstall Linux? Everywhere I look to install a Zip Drive (parallel) you have to have the SCSI enabled at Install. And of course. Thinking I would not need the Zip for anything (and probably still don't) I started to try to install it just in case. I think what you need to do is add "append=ide-scsi" (minus quotes) at the end of your lilo.conf. I'd suggest going to the Mandrake mail archives and search for ide-scsi. John
[newbie] Grapics Scramble in KDE.
I have installed the Mandrake 6.1 distribution and I am getting funny graphical problems. #1. The very far right of my monitor has very small blinking lines. In 8bit graphical mode I don't see them. In 16 or 24 bit mode they appear. This didn't happen on Mandrake or Redhat 6.0 or earlier, but has only happened with redhat and mandrake 6.1. I used Xconfigurator to configure my card and monitor the same way I did on earlier versions. #2. A few of the toolbar buttons on kfm and a few other KDE apps have the appearance of being scambled. They still work, but graphically they look like a scamblet tv picture. This has only happened with the Mandrake 6.1 distribution. And it has happened on both of my computers that run this distribution. I have never experienced this problem before and thought that I had loaded all the necessary KDE rpms upon install like I normally do. This happens whether in 8, 16, or 24 bit mode and therefore, I believe this problem is unrelated to the first. I would most appreciate any help in this matter. Thanx, SA
Re: [newbie] Missing - Garbled Pixmap
Thanks for the help, everything is working well now. kdelibs does not fully install, most of it makes it in, but it does not register with the rpm batabase and some files don't make it. Uninstall the kcmclock rpm, then run rpm -Uvh on the kdelibs package. If you want to use the Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] has anyone rebuilt linux mandrake kernel for 486?
I run mandrake 6.0 on a 486 without a kernel recompile. I haven't had any serious problems with it but then I am only playing right now. I just did a custom install and left out some of the components I didn't need. --- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Ano wrote: I'd be grateful if someone could point me to the appropriate resources, rebuild the kernel (ie, what dev resources are needed, building CD, etc). I was going to read the RH HOWTO- , but I wasn't sure that would cover mandrake specifics...And is a recompiled kernel all I need for mandrake to run on a 486 box? Unfortunately, no. You'd also need to recompile the entire distribution. We've been told that a 486 version would be coming out RSN since the 6.0 release. Any news MandrakeSoft? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
[newbie] Intel 810 chipset
Has anyone tried, successfully or unsuccessfully, to install Mandrake 6.1 on an Intel 810 motherboard? Does any Xserver support that chipset yet? Thanks, Michael
Re: [newbie] Procmail
what you put in your ~/.forward file? I've tried several variations, including this one given in procmail's manpage: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" And it does not work. Try removing the exec so it looks like "|/usr/bin/procmail" just in case your sendmail is configured to deny exec. That should dump the message directly into procmail's standard input. Of course, you need to verify that procmail is actually installed in /usr/bin, too. MB
[newbie] WP8 Preferences fail -- Major flaw?
Dear friends: I have been using WP8 for Linux for over six months. I used to use WP6 for Dos and Windows years ago when, like so many others, I was persuaded to follow the standard (pun intended) and switched to MSword 2, 6 and then even for a while 97. I do not wish to discuss the merits of WordPerfect vs MSWord in this message. Rather, I would like to inquire whether any of you have discovered the same problem that I have, by now, repeatedly encountered: After you install WP8 for Linux, whether as user or root, whether in text mode or graphically, whether the download version or the retail, whether in root's directory or in user's directory (I have done all of these several times over), you have to configure its Preferences as "adm", that is, adminstritator. The "adm" is definted by where and who installed WP8. I am a single user on a single Linux machine (AMD k6-2 400 Mghrtz, 128 megs of RAM) and can, therefore, technically be an adm either as root or user. Each time I installed WP8, I first UNinstalled the earlier version properly (by ./remove.wp) in the WP directory and then deleted completely the .wprc folder that appears in your /home/user directory. It is a hidden directory. To see it, either do a /home/user ls -la or go to KFM File Manager and under View select to see the hidden files. All of this is as a preface to the following: You configure your preferences by using the command: /home/sher/wp80/wpbin/xwp -adm or /opt/wp80/wpbin/xwp -adm (if that's where your WP is) I spent an hour on the phone last week with a very kind and patient gentleman from Corel tech support who explained all this to me and we went step by step through every single screen and every single option in Preferences. My problem at the time was that I couldn't get a document backup, which is, of course, a critial matter. Well that's been solved. You must save your work space in Environment and indicate your document and backup directoris in Files as well as check the options for original backup and the timed backup (preferably 1 minute). I did all of this or rather we did it together on the phone, and everything seemed all right. But after getting off the phone, without making any changes, the next time I tried to enter Preferences with the -adm command, I found that just about everything had been greyed out. I couldn't believe it. So, I played with it. I have installed it nearly a dozen times, mostly as user, in the exact same way (by the way, Authorization said that "sher", that's me, was the authorized adm since I installed it as user and into my home directory. When I installed it as root, of course, Administration said that "root" was the adm. Well, to make a long story short, every time I install WP, I get the same result, namely, that, as it turns out, YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE TO SET THE PREFERENCES! After you get out and try to come back in and type the -adm command, WP's Preferences menu (except for Administration and one other section) clams shut. I am well aware that the fact that Administration is OPEN in Preferences is a key to opening up the rest of Preferences. And I have tried every trick I can think of: adding sher as user, as group, adding "users", adding root. I tried to log out of KDE and log back in as root and still the exact same thing happens. In fact, if "user" has installed it in user's directory, then root can't even open up Preferences at all (except Administration). Same in reverse (if root has installed it, user can't have access to Preferences). Nothing works. Please try it yourself and tell me if you have the same problem. If this is a bug, it is a severe and crippling bug. If it is not, if it is in fact a security feature, and if the Administration section is the key to making Preferences available to the user whenever he needs to, please, by all means, let me and others know PRECISELY how to do that. So, the big question of the day is: IF I COULD GET INTO PREFERENCES ONCE, WHY CAN I NOT GET INTO IT WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE AND CONFIGURE WP8 TO RUN AS I PLEASE WHENEVER I PLEASE AS ADMINISTRATOR (never mind whether I am technically "sher' or "root"? Why does WP8 Preferences clam shut after a single use? If Corel tech support is listening, please contact me about this. Thank you all for listening and thank you for your patience. Any suggestions? Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] terminal emulation problems
Hi , I am trying to connect my labtop to the serial port of my PC with Linux , and actually a got it , but the problem is that the speed of the comunication is really slow , ( for example 5 minutes just to load the mandrake init page where you enter the login and password) , I am using procommplus and Reflection X and even if I put the speed line to 115200 bps is the same problem , I am using the getty command in the inittab file with this speed , , I am NOT using a Null modem cable and it still works but really really slowly. Please help Thanks in advanced
Re: [newbie] Grapics Scramble in KDE.
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: #2. A few of the toolbar buttons on kfm and a few other KDE apps have the appearance of being scambled. They still work, but graphically they look like a scamblet tv picture. This has only happened with the Mandrake 6.1 distribution. And it has happened on both of my computers that run this distribution. I have never experienced this problem before and thought that I had loaded all the necessary KDE rpms upon install like I normally do. This happens whether in 8, 16, or 24 bit mode and therefore, I believe this problem is unrelated to the first. I've been reading a lot here about how some installations get an incomplete installation of the KDELIBS. Try removing and reinstalling the KDELIB rpm files. John
[newbie] FTP install...
I have a system with a nic that is currently running win95 and as part of my home network I can use the telnet client included in windows to log on to my linux machine (running mdk 6.1) or I can use WS_FTP to log in and transfer files to and from my linux machine. It's a 486/100 and I decided to install Mandrake 5.3 and use it as a dedicated firewall with a dialup connection to my isp. It has an adeptec controller on the sound card and a 2x scsi cdrom. Linux won't autodetect the scsi interface nor will it find the controller after I specify the type, port address, irq...etc. So I decided to use FTP to do the install from my mdk 6.1's cdrom, but I can't get signed on to the 6.1 system, it errors with this: 'I cannot log into machine: Unable to lookup FTP server host name' or 'I cannot log into machine: Failed to connect to FTP server' depending on whether I gave it a machine name or ip address. Any ideas on what to do. Alan
Re: [newbie] Procmail
I'm having the same problem. If I use: "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #richajoh" an error is mailed to root that says 'sh: cannot use in command'. If I use: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail #richajoh" I get address richajoh is unsafe for mailing to programs. Anyone have any ideas? If anyone has procmail working in Mandrake 6.1, what do you have in your forward? -JR - Original Message - From: Thomas J. Hamman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail Can somebody who uses Procmail for mail filtering (or knows how) please tell me what you put in your ~/.forward file? I've tried several variations, including this one given in procmail's manpage: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" And it does not work. On 19-Oct-99 Civileme wrote: Tom, I think I need to see the line before that one as well. The pipe established on that line has to be from something. Better yet, a copy of the file where it is. I see a shell error being reported which indicates a syntax problem is isolating an '' somehow. That line is the only line in the file (and as far as I can tell, the only line that's supposed to be in it). One elementary check is to make sure the example line isn't using ` (lowercase of the uppercase ~ key) where you are using ' (lowercase of the uppercase " key) . Civileme I checked, and was indeed using the correct key. I've since tried some alternate .forward files given in the documentation I was using, including the one given in procmail's man page (which I typed above), and they all result in the test mail being lost and me receiving (when I check in my X-based mail client so procmail can't lose it) a mail ending in something like this: - Transcript of session follows - sh: exec not available for sendmail programs 554 "|exec /usr/bin/procmail"... Service unavailable It's as if sendmail doesn't want to run any of the commands in the .forward file.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
Ken Wilson wrote: What version of Outlook are you using? I have Outlook 98 and that option is not present. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? Yes. Under tools options send There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format the sender used. Deselect the choice. Kenthe conversation is actually about Outlook Express, not Outlook. Somebody must have dropped the Express part of Outlook Express in a reply. Alan
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 11:09:52AM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Is it possible to install an app from one Linux package into another? I have a SuSE 6.2 with StarOffice (among others) and I would like to be able to install it in Mandrake. If this can be done, how so? I have Mandrake 6.1 CD-ROM only, not the commercial distribution. When I've tried to install SuSE, the options are there to install the applications. How would I install these under Mandrake? and Would the StarOffice distributed with the commercial SuSE 6.2 only work with SuSE 6.2 (another words, is it licenced for use only with SuSE)? You should be able to get the "tarball" distribution of Star Office from the StarOffice website (www.stardivision.com...which redirects you to a Sun.com website G) and install it in there. I'm not sure you can use the version of SO that comes with SuSE, as it may come in an incompatible format. Sure you can use the "alien" package convertor, but it'd just be easier to get the tarball and install it, I think. :-) SuSE uses RPM. And RPM's are tons easier than tarballs. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 04:09:35PM +0100, Simon Norris wrote: Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the applications you install will mainly depend on the Linux Kernel you're running. If your kernel is compatible, you should be relatively trouble free. See if you can find the install spec for Staroffice, particularly your version, it may need a particular X type aswell. Is it possible to install an app from one Linux package into another? I have a SuSE 6.2 with StarOffice (among others) and I would like to be able to install it in Mandrake. If this can be done, how so? I have Mandrake 6.1 CD-ROM only, not the commercial distribution. When I've tried to install SuSE, the options are there to install the applications. How would I install these under Mandrake? and Would the StarOffice distributed with the commercial SuSE 6.2 only work with SuSE 6.2 (another words, is it licenced for use only with SuSE)? Actually, it's not so much kernel version that will give you trouble with applications, it's libraries. In the case of the SuSE 6.2 StarOffice, you'll probably be okay installing it into your Mandrake system. SuSE also uses RPM, so if it doesn't work correctly, you can easily and cleanly rip it back out. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On 19-Oct-99 Michael R. Batchelor wrote: Try removing the exec so it looks like "|/usr/bin/procmail" just in case your sendmail is configured to deny exec. That should dump the message directly into procmail's standard input. Of course, you need to verify that procmail is actually installed in /usr/bin, too. Thanks; however, that didn't work either. It produced the same result as the other lines I tried. The mail I receive pointing out the failed delivery includes this: - Transcript of session follows - sh: procmail not available for sendmail programs 554 "|/usr/bin/procmail"... Service unavailable Procmail is definitely installed and in /usr/bin. Are there any default settings (I haven't messed with sendmail's settings at all) that would make sendmail unable to use procmail? -Tom
Re: [newbie] Intel 810 chipset
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 03:55:42PM -0400, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: Has anyone tried, successfully or unsuccessfully, to install Mandrake 6.1 on an Intel 810 motherboard? Does any Xserver support that chipset yet? Is this a repost? I think I remember responding to this question a couple weeks ago... The i810 is a motherboard chipset, not a video chipset. Any idea what the video chipset is? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] terminal emulation problems
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:03:21PM +0200, Jose Ramon Delgado wrote: Hi , I am trying to connect my labtop to the serial port of my PC with Linux , and actually a got it , but the problem is that the speed of the comunication is really slow , ( for example 5 minutes just to load the mandrake init page where you enter the login and password) , I am using procommplus and Reflection X and even if I put the speed line to 115200 bps is the same problem , I am using the getty command ' in the inittab file with this speed , , I am NOT using a Null modem cable and it still works but really really slowly. Trying to use X over a connection that slow will be exactly as painful as you describe. You can try finding some information about LBX, an X protocol compressor which will make the connection feel a bit faster, but I don't know if the Reflection X suite is compatible with it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] SMP troubles
Why do i get an error message everytime I try to recompile some program that uses SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processing)? For example, I am trying to install VMware's Emulator on my Linux Machine (Mandrake 6.1, kernel version 2.2.13-7mdk) and when I invoke their install script, it gives me the following error message... - Begin Error - What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]? --- I accept the default and it shoudl be correct... The directory of kernel headers (version 2.2.13-7mdk) does not match your running kernel (version 2.2.13-7mdksmp). Consequently, even if the compilation of the module was successful, the module would not load into the running kernel. - End Eror - Did Mandrake drop the ball on this, or is there something I am missing. I have all the kernel source installed and it is in /usr/src/linux/include. Anybody else run into problems on an SMP machine? Help please. I would have posted this to VMware, but i have noticed the same problem with several packages while trying to build and SMP version. I ran into a similar problem while just trying to recompile a new kernel.. -- John
Re: OT: Imation Needs a Spellchecker (was RE: [newbie] .iso file?)
Well, I am glad someone else is having the same problem as me. outa 10 disks 4 were able to copy and hold it. On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:52:57 -0700 "Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe they meant to call their marque "Imitation". Could explain the reportedly low quality of their writeable CD's. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
RE: [newbie] Any way to get the Monster MX-300 sound card to work?
Has anyone managed to get one of these configured successfully? If so, I could use some hints. -Paul I have the same problem. I wrote a mail to Aureal people asking why they don't have a driver for Linux and they told me they have plans to support Linux somewhere in time :) That was 4 months ago, now I finally solved the problem: I threw away the MX-300 and bought a Sound Blaster Live :) Toshiro.
[newbie] Setup of PHP/Midgard
I recently installed Mandrake 6.1. I have found documentation and help regarding setting up PHP, but it seems that this Midgard setup is different. It seems that my apache files are configured correctly with AddType...etc ..., but I can't seem to get any execution on php scripts. Anybody have any experience setting this one up? Appreciated!! -ryan __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Respawning too fast
When I first boot up I get a respawning error. Saying that it will be disabled for 5 minutes. I just ignore and login without problems. What is this? Anybody seen it? -thanks ryan __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] FTP install...
Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows called? Aaron -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 5:43 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] FTP install... I have a system with a nic that is currently running win95 and as part of my home network I can use the telnet client included in windows to log on to my linux machine (running mdk 6.1) or I can use WS_FTP to log in and transfer files to and from my linux machine. It's a 486/100 and I decided to install Mandrake 5.3 and use it as a dedicated firewall with a dialup connection to my isp. It has an adeptec controller on the sound card and a 2x scsi cdrom. Linux won't autodetect the scsi interface nor will it find the controller after I specify the type, port address, irq...etc. So I decided to use FTP to do the install from my mdk 6.1's cdrom, but I can't get signed on to the 6.1 system, it errors with this: 'I cannot log into machine: Unable to lookup FTP server host name' or 'I cannot log into machine: Failed to connect to FTP server' depending on whether I gave it a machine name or ip address. Any ideas on what to do. Alan
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1
Bloody Australia and damn Australians. Place has gone down hill since they stopped drinking Swan Lager and started on that awful stuff that comes out of green cans. Still Justin Langer is in the test team so it can't be all bad. And for the record the Mandrake programme sure knows what Western Standard Time is. If Mandrake can find Perth then it's certainly got its priorities right ;-). Australians have a bizarre preoccupation with rats' arses. Don't ask me why. Aaron. -Original Message- From: Laurie Dare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 Hello from Downunder. As a happy and contented user of Mandrake 5.3 I was a little tentative about 'updating' to 6.1. I had good reason! 6.1 has more bugs than my bed! For instance; the bootloader won't load LILO onto hdb1, at least not the first time. Many of the program icons on the desktop just look at you whwn you attempt to load the application...too many to list. But the daddy of them all is the cute German/English message.. "The file as a revision date in the future. This probably means that you system time is wrong or as been wrong at some point." Ratsarse!! The installation program can't tell the difference between EST (Australian) and GMT ( or UTC if you will)!! Consequently many files have tomorrow's date, and the above message comes up each and every time one is envoked. Jesus, if I'd wanted all these hassles I could have installed Winblows 98!! Why must you people release such buggy software? Haven't you learnt ANYTHING from Gill Bates? I'm off to purchase SuSe (or is it sUsE hi ) tomorrow...nothing's cheap if it doesn't work. Oh, and don't waste your time flaming me. I've already quit this list. Good riddance to bad rubbish! Laurie Dare
Re: [newbie] terminal related lockups
Jackal wrote: I am not sure if our problems are one and the same but I had this problem on my laptop. Occasionally, the system will lock the keyboard and the mouse and I had to switch it off and on to continue...but a quick look at the clock showed that the system is still running. i think the clock runs all the time anyway. the clock is in your hardware and it has a battery. thtas why the time is correct if your computer has been turned off for days. I was desperate and wrote a script that will reboot the machine if it cannot find a certain file in the /tmp directory. every now and then it checks the directory and removes it if it is present and checks back after an interval...which means every now and then i have to touch the file in the directory...i know it seems stupid but at least the machine can shutdown cleanly without me having to sit through an fsck whenever this happens The wierd thing is that since i implemented this script the problem has been so infrequent that is has almost (touch wood) disappeared! sounds odd, but i am desperate too. any chance you could lend me a copy of that script? I cannot explain this X-filish phenomenon but this is just my 2 cents... On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 05:57:39AM +, pete moss wrote: i know, i have mentioned this before, but i am still having problems. anytime i open a terminal (xterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) from within X, the computer completely locks up and i have to hit reset. if i start the terminal from a virtual terminal (alt+F2) then it runs fine. i am running mandrake 6.1. i didnt have this problem with 6.0. i have reinstalled several packages that seem to be affected, but no luck. it seems like there is a software problem outside of the affected programs that might be causing this. anyone know how i can track down this problem? it is hindering some of my work in linux. please pass the slightest bit of info! thanks! :P ps - is there a quick way to reinstall all of the currently installed packages from the cdrom? i would like to avoid redoing a fresh install. == E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ No.: 38756924 ==
Re: [newbie] SMP troubles
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Why do i get an error message everytime I try to recompile some program that uses SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processing)? For example, I am trying to install VMware's Emulator on my Linux Machine (Mandrake 6.1, kernel version 2.2.13-7mdk) and when I invoke their install script, it gives me the following error message... - Begin Error - What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]? --- I accept the default and it shoudl be correct... The directory of kernel headers (version 2.2.13-7mdk) does not match your running kernel (version 2.2.13-7mdksmp). Consequently, even if the compilation of the module was successful, the module would not load into the running kernel. Hmm...that's wierd... Are there any options, such as " -- nodeps" to make it work Dunno what the problem is. That's really wierd. Have you tried the SMP list? It's at [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can subscribe to it or just send a message (I'm subbed to it myself...) John
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: SuSE uses RPM. And RPM's are tons easier than tarballs. :) Yeah...I didn't realize that SuSE uses RPM as well. :-) Good to know. I was wondering why people keep getting referred to SuSE's web site to get apps. :-) John
RE: [newbie] FTP install...
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows called? Would you believe "telnet" :-) John
[newbie] [Fwd: HTMLDOC (announce) new rpms]
Pablo Costa wrote: Just uploaded the following to ftp://incoming.redhat.com/libc6 htmldoc-1.7-1.i386.rpm htmldoc-1.7-1.src.rpm They are also available at http://shark.ib.usp.br/~pablo/rpms/htmldoc Or ftp://linusp.usp.br/pub/local/pablo/rpms/htmloc RPMs are built on a Pentium II 400 64megs RAM with RedHat 6.1 installed. Required programs to install shared binary rpm. --- Standard Red Hat 6.1 installation Name: htmldoc Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.7 Vendor: (none) Release : 1 Build Date: Tue Oct 19 10:09:07 1999 Install date: Tue Oct 19 10:09:32 1999 Build Host: arte1.casablanca.internet Group : X11/Applications Source RPM: htmldoc-1.7-1.src.rpm Size: 1009807 License: GPL Packager: Pablo Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://http://www.easysw.com/~mike/htmldoc/ Summary : HTMLDOC is a program that generates indexed HTML, Adobe® PostScriptTM, and PDF files from HTML Description : HTMLDOC is a program that generates indexed HTML, Adobe® PostScriptTM, and PDF files from HTML "source" files that you create using your favorite HTML editor. HTMLDOC includes a simple GUI interface to manage your HTML files and automatically (re)generate files for viewing and printing. * Tue Oct 19 1999 Pablo Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial Release -- To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[newbie] SBLive!
Anyone have any luck install the SBLive!. I am running Kernel 2.2.13 and when I run the install scripts, it says that kernel 2.2.5 is required. I have tried the other option which is insmod -f sblive.o and I get a long list of errors talking about unresolved symbol. Any help would be appreciated.
RE: [newbie] FTP install...
There's two in Win9x - telnet (imaginitive, huh?) and Hyperterminal. -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 Original Message On 10/19/99, 5:24:26 PM, Aaron deRozario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: [newbie] FTP install...: Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows called? Aaron -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 5:43 AM To: newbie Subject:[newbie] FTP install... I have a system with a nic that is currently running win95 and as part of my home network I can use the telnet client included in windows to log on to my linux machine (running mdk 6.1) or I can use WS_FTP to log in and transfer files to and from my linux machine. It's a 486/100 and I decided to install Mandrake 5.3 and use it as a dedicated firewall with a dialup connection to my isp. It has an adeptec controller on the sound card and a 2x scsi cdrom. Linux won't autodetect the scsi interface nor will it find the controller after I specify the type, port address, irq...etc. So I decided to use FTP to do the install from my mdk 6.1's cdrom, but I can't get signed on to the 6.1 system, it errors with this: 'I cannot log into machine: Unable to lookup FTP server host name' or 'I cannot log into machine: Failed to connect to FTP server' depending on whether I gave it a machine name or ip address. Any ideas on what to do. Alan
Re: [newbie] FTP install...
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 08:24:26AM +0800, Aaron deRozario wrote: Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows called? telnet. Of course, there's no pretty GUI for it, so Windows doesn't exactly announce that it's installed. You'll either have to create an icon for it on the desktop (or add it to a menu), or use the Run... item from the Start menu to launch it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1
WoW bad temper ! :) On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: Bloody Australia and damn Australians. Place has gone down hill since they stopped drinking Swan Lager and started on that awful stuff that comes out of green cans. Still Justin Langer is in the test team so it can't be all bad. And for the record the Mandrake programme sure knows what Western Standard Time is. If Mandrake can find Perth then it's certainly got its priorities right ;-). Australians have a bizarre preoccupation with rats' arses. Don't ask me why. Aaron. -Original Message- From: Laurie Dare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Mandrake 6.1 Hello from Downunder. As a happy and contented user of Mandrake 5.3 I was a little tentative about 'updating' to 6.1. I had good reason! 6.1 has more bugs than my bed! For instance; the bootloader won't load LILO onto hdb1, at least not the first time. Many of the program icons on the desktop just look at you whwn you attempt to load the application...too many to list. But the daddy of them all is the cute German/English message.. "The file as a revision date in the future. This probably means that you system time is wrong or as been wrong at some point." Ratsarse!! The installation program can't tell the difference between EST (Australian) and GMT ( or UTC if you will)!! Consequently many files have tomorrow's date, and the above message comes up each and every time one is envoked. Jesus, if I'd wanted all these hassles I could have installed Winblows 98!! Why must you people release such buggy software? Haven't you learnt ANYTHING from Gill Bates? I'm off to purchase SuSe (or is it sUsE hi ) tomorrow...nothing's cheap if it doesn't work. Oh, and don't waste your time flaming me. I've already quit this list. Good riddance to bad rubbish! Laurie Dare -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 09:16:00PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: SuSE uses RPM. And RPM's are tons easier than tarballs. :) Yeah...I didn't realize that SuSE uses RPM as well. :-) Good to know. I was wondering why people keep getting referred to SuSE's web site to get apps. :-) Part of the "go to SuSE" is because they've done some good work implementing X servers that aren't yet available from XFree. Dirk Hondel (I think I've mis-remembered his name) heads the XFree86 project and is also associated with SuSE in some fashion. Red Hat _used_ to do some work in this area also. Their series was called XBF (X Binary Free, or something like that) and were binary-only servers that they used as bargaining chips to get video card companies to allow them to open the source. Precision Insight worked at signing the NDAs and creating the code then Red Hat put their brand on them. You'll probably recognize the Precision Insight name as the guys that are currently working on integrating OpenGL into the XFree 4.0 code base. Not sure how well that work is going, but I'd imagine that we've got to be getting close to a 4.0 release soon. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mail filter
Thanks so much ! I was getting tired of little Donny and his big mouth. Your directions worked perfect. Thanks again Hugh On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hugh wrote: Can someone walk mr through the Kmail filter process? I want to kill file someone on this list :) Hugh -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it. Ok with Kmail up click on the FIle pulldown menu Select Filter Now once on filter, select the NEW button and click it Click the arrow to the right of the first selection box set it for "From" Then the second box should be "contains" The third box should be a unique string enough to identify the sender For example if you wanted to select "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" you might choose "zakhurlb" since that is unlikely to identify anyone else then go to the first action box and click the arrow for "transfer" and if you are Kfiling it select "trash" as the destination. Civileme -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [newbie] Follow-up to SMP troubles
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:27:05PM -0400, John May wrote: Here's what VMware has to say about the SMP troubles I, and others, are having. The whole article is quoted for clarity. --- SNIP --- Does this mean that Linux-Mandrake is a "lame" distribution? It sure does. It means that they modified what the kernel reports as it's version, but they didn't modify /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h to reflect that fact. For a quick fix, try editing /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h so that the UTS_RELEASE line looks like this: #define UTS_RELEASE "2.2.13-4mdksmp" (just add the smp to the end of the string) Then try installing VMware. If it works then, submit a bug to the bugs@linux-mandrake address, post a LOUD message on this list announcing the problem and the fix, and then pat yourself on the back for doing more testing on this operating system than Mandrake apparently did. Yes, I'm a little peeved at the quality of 6.1... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
Wonder if that has any relation to linuxconf (lilo) not wanting to
recogize my /dev/hdc1 as a valid Linux partition for booting from?
Boot fine from a floppy . . . .
--
Ty Mixon
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:26147713
Original Message
On 10/19/99, 8:02:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie]
BUG: 6.1:
Two more bugs to report:
1) By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE
devices.
Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I
encountered
the following errors:
hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
hdd: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete
DataRequest }
hdd: DMA disabled
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete
DataRequest }
hda: DMA disabled
and then the entire machine locked up. The keyboard was frozen and I
ended
up "kicking the Big Red Button" on the machine.
I modified my BIOS settings to disable DMA support for the interfaces
and
rebooted. Trying to make the copy, the same errors and lockup (and
resolution occurred).
Finally, I modified /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime to change the
-d1 to
-d0 in the hdparm line and rebooted the machine.
After the reboot, I again attempted the copy only to be greeted with
the
same errors followed by:
hdd: ATAPI reset complete
ATAPI device hdd:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred -- (asc=0x29,
ascq=0x00)
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Error }
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x30
ide0: reset: success
The machine did not lock up this time, but I'm a bit worried by the
messages. This machine had NO PROBLEMS running Mandrake 6.0 and had
no
problems running 2.3.x kernels.
Thinking that I'd simply bypass the bad judgement on Mandrake's part,
I
moved to compiling my own kernel. Once again, I'm hit with a bug:
[snip]
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Intel 810 chipset
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Intel 810 chipset On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 03:55:42PM -0400, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: Has anyone tried, successfully or unsuccessfully, to install Mandrake 6.1 on an Intel 810 motherboard? Does any Xserver support that chipset yet? Is this a repost? I think I remember responding to this question a couple weeks ago... The i810 is a motherboard chipset, not a video chipset. Any idea what the video chipset is? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] The i810 has intergrated video support, similar to my SiS 620. It's quite new. It seems someones got it working (not very well) - I saw mention of it in comp.windows.x.i386unix (a newsgroup) check this link: http://xfree86.org/FAQ/index.html#SectionF re: unsupported cards -Warren.
[newbie] StarOffice mailing list?
Dear friends: Anybody know if there is a StarOffice mailing list (or newsgroup)? Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] desktop size 640*480
I have just installed linux but my desktop size is now 640*480 how can I make my desktop size 1024*768
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1
Haha, Actually, I've been getting that error with linuxconf since Redhat 5.0...never figured out why On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, you wrote: Bloody Australia and damn Australians. Place has gone down hill since they stopped drinking Swan Lager and started on that awful stuff that comes out of green cans. Still Justin Langer is in the test team so it can't be all bad. And for the record the Mandrake programme sure knows what Western Standard Time is. If Mandrake can find Perth then it's certainly got its priorities right ;-). Australians have a bizarre preoccupation with rats' arses. Don't ask me why. Aaron. -Original Message- From: Laurie Dare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Mandrake 6.1 Hello from Downunder. As a happy and contented user of Mandrake 5.3 I was a little tentative about 'updating' to 6.1. I had good reason! 6.1 has more bugs than my bed! For instance; the bootloader won't load LILO onto hdb1, at least not the first time. Many of the program icons on the desktop just look at you whwn you attempt to load the application...too many to list. But the daddy of them all is the cute German/English message.. "The file as a revision date in the future. This probably means that you system time is wrong or as been wrong at some point." Ratsarse!! The installation program can't tell the difference between EST (Australian) and GMT ( or UTC if you will)!! Consequently many files have tomorrow's date, and the above message comes up each and every time one is envoked. Jesus, if I'd wanted all these hassles I could have installed Winblows 98!! Why must you people release such buggy software? Haven't you learnt ANYTHING from Gill Bates? I'm off to purchase SuSe (or is it sUsE hi ) tomorrow...nothing's cheap if it doesn't work. Oh, and don't waste your time flaming me. I've already quit this list. Good riddance to bad rubbish! Laurie Dare
[newbie] Fwd: linux-hardware
Hello, fellow Linux users. I realize this is somewhat Off Topic, but I, too, have seen a lot of interest in linux hardware, so, I'm forwarding this for anyone who might be interested. :-) John -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: linux-hardware Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:55:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Rik van Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi *, now more and more (IMHO off-topic) posts about what hardware to use are starting to appear on linux-kernel and linux-smp, I asked if there would be interest in a new list for the purpose of discussing Linux and hardware. Since quite a bit of interest has been shown, I created the list as soon as I came back from ALS -- even before I have recovered from jetlag and resulting lack of sleep :) The list is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, you can send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the body of the message: subscribe linux-hardware regards, Rik -- The Internet is not a network of computers. It is a network of people. That is its real strength. -- work at:http://www.reseau.nl/ home at:http://www.nl.linux.org/~riel/ - Linux SMP list: FIRST see FAQ at http://www.irisa.fr/prive/mentre/smp-faq/ To Unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe linux-smp" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two more bugs to report:
1) By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE devices.
Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I encountered
the following errors:
Um, no 6.1 shiped without the ide patch
hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
hdd: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdd: DMA disabled
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: DMA disabled
and then the entire machine locked up. The keyboard was frozen and I ended
up "kicking the Big Red Button" on the machine.
I modified my BIOS settings to disable DMA support for the interfaces and
rebooted. Trying to make the copy, the same errors and lockup (and
resolution occurred).
Finally, I modified /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime to change the -d1 to
-d0 in the hdparm line and rebooted the machine.
This only gets used if opti is specified on the cmdline,
After the reboot, I again attempted the copy only to be greeted with the
same errors followed by:
hdd: ATAPI reset complete
ATAPI device hdd:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred -- (asc=0x29, ascq=0x00)
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x30
ide0: reset: success
The machine did not lock up this time, but I'm a bit worried by the
messages. This machine had NO PROBLEMS running Mandrake 6.0 and had no
problems running 2.3.x kernels.
Thinking that I'd simply bypass the bad judgement on Mandrake's part, I
moved to compiling my own kernel. Once again, I'm hit with a bug:
2) Inability to compile a kernel. Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields:
gcc -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -pipe -s -mpentium
-mcpu=pentium -march=pentium -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -DLOCALE
-I/usr/include/ncurses -DCURSES_LOC="ncurses.h" -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
cc1: Invalid option `preferred-stack-boundary=2'
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.13/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
This leaves me with a couple questions:
* RPM packaging is supposed to ensure that binary packages are reliably
recreatable using the source package. If I can't even get the resulting
source to build, how did you manage to compile the thing in the first
place?
The cflags get put there by rpm, (there was a non fuctional %post to check
gcc --version for 2.95+, actualy it functions but only if gcc is
installed at the time) Have a gander at the src.rpm
* Where the hell is the quality testing?! I've only owned this
distribution for two days and already I've tripped over three bugs that
should not happen.
TO THE MANDRAKE STAFF:
I know that the second bug has already been reported to this list. I
haven't seen a reponse from Mandrake concerning an updated package to fix
the problem. Actually, I don't think I've even seen a response from anyone
at Mandrake for any of the reported problems.
You guys really want to download 30+ megs to not have to manual edit a
CFLAGS= ?
I'm not a clueless, confused, newbie user. I'm not adverse to fixing these
problems myself. However, I'd prefer the opportunity to shoot MYSELF in the
foot prior to Mandrake grabbing the gun and doing it for me.
Well? You got my money, how about giving me a workable product for it?
Consider putting that on a bulletin board somewhere. You'd do well to take
it to heart.
--
MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon
