Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 08:44 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: AFAIK, install a program called imwheel and run it via the cli (imwheel) to start the program. That should start the wheel working. Cheers Jason Dennis Myers wrote: Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. Nope, still nothing, guess Charlies' suggestion will have to be considered. I don't even have the third button function with the wheel let alone scrolling. Bummer! Thanks for the suggestions any others? You don't need imwheel (see responses to my posts on an optical mouse). I have a Microsoft Intellimouse on one box and it works OK. My /etc/sysconfig/mouse file reads as follows: MOUSETYPE=ps/2 XMOUSETYPE=ExplorerPS/2 FULLNAME="PS/2|Microsoft Explorer" XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux You could compare this with what you have. XMOUSETYPE=ExplorerPS/2 FULLNAME="PS/2|Microsoft Explorer" XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux You could compare this with what you have. The XEMU3 and, of course, WHEEL lines are important. Sir Robin -- -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 14:23, Dennis Myers wrote: > Nope, still nothing, guess Charlies' suggestion will have to be considered. I > don't even have the third button function with the wheel let alone scrolling. > Bummer! Thanks for the suggestions any others? What happens if you choose a completely generic mouse, reboot, change the mouse with mosedracula back to the MS semi-Intellimoose, then reboot again - does that do anything at all? (or even running "mouseconfig" in a terminal...? -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:50:00 +1100 2:50pm up 17:47, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.18, 0.11 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth. -- Picasso Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to "More on Alas and Alack'
On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:52 pm, Richard Babcock wrote: > Of course I have to jump on this! > > I would rather have my warts for free than pay slick Willie for them! > > -snip- > > > But some (actually many) among the Linux user base can't > > admit this: Anything that suggests that Linux has some > > serious warts, or that not all Microsoft products are > > Absolute Evil Encoded, gets denied or rejected out of hand: > > One poster actually tried to argue that my analysis was > > flawed because "Red Hat Linux isn't Linux." (What?) Another > > took the tack of arguing that I'm simply a "bootlicking > > shill." (Yes, ad homonym arguments and > > debate-by-name-calling are staples of discourse in the Linux > > community.) > > -end snip- Err, that is ad hominem and don't forget ad populem, simple rhetoric styles which seem to be much more present than actual logical fallacies Civileme Linux has some serious warts, more often than not unimplemented features that we cannot match to MS because we don't have the special relationships with manufacturers, and Microsoft HAS improved quality. The assertion that Linux has as many bugs as XP though is definitely antagonistic and probably unwarranted, and most certainly unprovable. But, and it is a big but, when a new exploit is discovered the linux reaction is often before the appearance of the exploit in the wild, and rarely does one have to reboot to apply the fix. The Microsoft reaction is usually late, quite often breaks other things, and frequently requires a reboot, which is a super PITA on a heavy server. All of this follows naturally from the development styles practiced by the two communities. GNU/Linux has the agility and will retain it. And of course, everything else being equal, which may one day approach, with Micrsoft, you lose control of your computer. You can use it only for activities allowed by the license. With linux, the computer you paid for with your own money remains YOURS. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Thursday 30 January 2003 08:44 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > AFAIK, install a program called imwheel and run it via the cli (imwheel) > to start the program. That should start the wheel working. > > Cheers > > Jason > > Dennis Myers wrote: > >Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper > >configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel > > or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? > > TIA for any suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nope, still nothing, guess Charlies' suggestion will have to be considered. I don't even have the third button function with the wheel let alone scrolling. Bummer! Thanks for the suggestions any others? -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:30:51 -0600 Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > any suggestions. Trade it in for a logitech (-: Never had 1 that didn't work out of the box, p/s2, usb, cordless and even the MX700 Charles We all like praise, but a hike in our pay is the best kind of ways. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117507/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
AFAIK, install a program called imwheel and run it via the cli (imwheel) to start the program. That should start the wheel working. Cheers Jason Dennis Myers wrote: Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 13:30, Dennis Myers wrote: > Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper > configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or > third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA > for any suggestions. I'm rather surprised that it's not functioning for you - that's one thing that was relatively easy for me to switch'n'swap around - running mousedrake worked like a charm - but then again, it could be releated to the southern hemisphere where everything always works perfectly and all your dreams come true...(g) NOT! Hehehehehe... -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:40:00 +1100 1:40pm up 16:37, 4 users, load average: 0.66, 0.29, 0.30 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I guess you guys got BIG MUSCLES from doing too much STUDYING! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: > As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. > Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing "service network restart" Cheers, Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:54:18 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek > mobos. Is anyone using one with Mandrake? > Anne I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. 1 x AGP Slot 5 x PCI slots 3 x DDR Ram for a max of 3GB USB Smart card reader And of course it's screened in a pretty irridesant(?sp?) mauve (This was the swinger for me!!) Only one 'however' and it's kernel related - to do with reassigning IRQs during boot up. The kernel deals with this and just carries on regardless. === For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. It's run-off-the-cd system. Real fast, Real Smart, Debian based (I think). I used it on the several boards I was 'offered' before I chose this pretty one. The test criteria was simply if Knoppix booted through sweetly and there where no issues playing with the many apps on the cd - then it was a in contention! Oddly, the Soltex and Gigabyte were the only ones which passed, NONE of the PCChips boards passed, price (and colour) ruled in the end! Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 18:25, Todd Slater wrote: > On 30 Jan 2003 15:38:01 -0700 > heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I see lots of ppl have the Fortune program make them a sig for email. > > Usually random. How do I do this or where can I go for information on > > how to do this neat trick? :) > > > > Ty > > Femme > > Here's mine: > > The xmms-info is just to see if xmms is running and if it is it prints the > song title. > > You can create your own fortune list by putting the quotes in a file--one > per line, separated by a line with %. Then you run "strfile filename" and > it creates the .dat file for that list. So, when you call fortune, you can > specify the file you want to use. You can also decide to use a percentage > from each set you've got. For example, see all the collections in > /usr/share/games/fortunes. You could say use 80% from politics and 20% > from startrek. > > Man fortune is your friend on this one. > > Todd > > -- Thx Todd. I try to avoid Man pages b/c a good deal of info in them seems to be out of date or useless. I'll trust this one to be accurate. :) Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
with pppoe, DON'T use the Mandrake tool, it makes to many assumptions about your network settings.. in my case a good many of those assumptions were incorrect... install rp-pppoe, then open an console and type: adsl-setup answer the questions and thats it.. you are all set. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 6:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:17 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > > PPPoE is basically already built into the system, else you can use the > > PPPoE client from say, Roaring Penguin (RPM based so no thinking > > required) - I personally would try to stay within the actual parameters > > of the operating system - I tend to stick with what's already built into > > the networking before finding an alternative, but everyone likes their > > tea a different way! > > I should have a look at it I changed from modem to adsl just before I changed to 9.0. It was such a no-brainer with standard Mdk tools that I can hardly remember doing anything - and I certainly couldn't be called experienced. 9.0 detected it automatically, so I didn't need to do anything as far as I can remember. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:50, Chuck Burns wrote: > On Thu, January 30 2003 5:48 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > *snipped stuff about making a siggy executable script* > You forgot the important part, Stephen.. telling kmail, or your other programs > from using the output of a script or file to generate the signature.. > Settings -> configure kmail -> select your mail sending identity, go to the > signature tab, tell kmail to use output from an external file. :) > > -- > Chuck Burns, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thx all! I'll play with this sometime in the next few days. :) Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:50:20 -0600 Chuck Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, January 30 2003 5:48 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > *snipped stuff about making a siggy executable script* > You forgot the important part, Stephen.. telling kmail, or your other > programs from using the output of a script or file to generate the > signature.. Settings -> configure kmail -> select your mail sending > identity, go to the signature tab, tell kmail to use output from an > external file. :) In Sylpheed this is achieved using | before the script name, i.e. |/path/to/sig.sh Todd -- Todd Slater The current tune is steve earle - more than i can do Mandrake Newbie searchable archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbie&r=1&w=2 Got a great Mandrake-Linux tip bookmarked? Send it to me and I'll include it in my newbie tips fortune file! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On 30 Jan 2003 15:38:01 -0700
heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see lots of ppl have the Fortune program make them a sig for email.
> Usually random. How do I do this or where can I go for information on
> how to do this neat trick? :)
>
> Ty
> Femme
Here's mine:
#!/bin/bash
echo "-- "
echo "Todd Slater"
if [ -p /tmp/xmms-info ] ; then
echo "The current tune is $( grep Title: /tmp/xmms-info | awk -F': '
'{print $2}' )"
fi
echo "$( fortune /home/todd/sig/mdk )"
echo "Got a great Mandrake-Linux tip bookmarked? Send it to me and I'll
include it in my newbie tips fortune file!"
exit
The xmms-info is just to see if xmms is running and if it is it prints the
song title.
You can create your own fortune list by putting the quotes in a file--one
per line, separated by a line with %. Then you run "strfile filename" and
it creates the .dat file for that list. So, when you call fortune, you can
specify the file you want to use. You can also decide to use a percentage
from each set you've got. For example, see all the collections in
/usr/share/games/fortunes. You could say use 80% from politics and 20%
from startrek.
Man fortune is your friend on this one.
Todd
--
Todd Slater
The current tune is steve earle - i feel alright
Mandrake Newbie mailing list help:
Got a great Mandrake-Linux tip bookmarked? Send it to me and I'll include
it in my newbie tips fortune file!
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fluxbox configuration
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:28:54 + Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thanks, Mark, Derek! I'll take a look at the fluxbox site and at the files Derek suggested. Editing files is no problem, I don't need the fancy schmancy gui config tools (actually that kind of bloat is exactly what i'm trying to get away from ;) ) as long as it's explained on HOW to edit it (which i'm sure the fluxbox site will do). I've fiddled around with it a bit already and i like it's speed and its minimal look and feel. I just started up gkrellm -w to see how the slit works... COOL! I've tried a getting a few windomaker dockapps, a couple compiled, most didn't. (where i was looking they seemed like they'd been there for a couple years. i'm sure the libs have all changed that were needed to install them originally). I'll try the dockapp site derek suggested too. It looks like fluxbox is going to be a keeper! Thanks again for your help :) Jerry. -- _||_ (o_ //\ V_/_ Registered Linux User #300600 Registered Linux Machine #185855 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fluxbox configuration
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 11:00, Jerry Barton wrote: > I'm going to switch from using KDE to using Fluxbox but I have a few questions on >configuration... > Could someone refer me to a site (or if you're patient, email me off-list) that will >show me how to configure: > menus > startup progams > background > what the 'slit' is and how to use it > > looking for a site that's fairly well explained. I've googled a bit and see >instructions like "just go in and edit /whatever/file" without really explaining what >to do. I'd like to switch to something a little more light weight without losing a >lot of functions. I don't really need a full desktop environment but It would be >nice to know how to add something like a "Run Command" item to a menu, how to add a >couple (not many) desktop shortcuts if possible, use something like a dock (from what >i can tell this is what the 'slit' is), etc. > > TIA! > > Jerry. I got a great proggie offa Freshmeat.net - called genmenu - it generates menu stuctures for Enlightenment, Fluxbox (and others) - and as well, with Fluxbox there is a proggie called Fluxconf that does the innards for ya. Using them in conjunction with each other definitely makes for wonderful usage overall. I don't always like hacking through configuration files when I have too much work to do elsewhere, and that was my resolution to the issue. Beautiful work for Enlightenment as well - skads kul! S. -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:05:01 +1100 11:05am up 14:02, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.20, 0.21 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Things past redress and now with me past care. -- William Shakespeare, "Richard II" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On 31 Jan 2003 09:52:00 +1100 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attached is my signature generator. You're going to need to do a link > on/usr/games/fortune to your /usr/bin directory, but after that, it's > downhill... I stuck mine in /usr/bin and made it executable. fortune -a -s /usr/share/games/fortunes > /home/charles/.signature echo "--" >> /home/charles/.signature echo "Mandrake Linux 9.1" >> /home/charles/.signature echo "Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk" >> /home/charles/.signature echo "--" >> /home/charles/.signature The -a and -s tells fortune to keep it short and clean Charles I never take work home with me; I always leave it in some bar along the way. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117482/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] kmail default browser
Since I'm using Gnome can I assume that I just need to restart x and go into KDE to change the settings? On a side note the major reason I didn't use KDE long was that annoying startup sound. How do you turn that crapper off? On Thursday 30 January 2003 04:32 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:00 pm, Derek wrote: > > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 7:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > When I click on links in kmail they don't come up with mozilla. How do > > > I change this? > > > > KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File Associations > > search for the fie type html > > > > Move the application of your choice to the top of the list. > > Same destination, different path - I forgot about this shorter path. > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
On Thursday 30 January 2003 12:30 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > Hello, > > I finally have got ADSL at home so now I am looking for a PPPoE-client > for Linux, somebody that can recommend one? > > Best Regards, > Anders rp-pppoe and it should be right on your mandrake install CDs Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIGDRIVES (>128G) and MDK 9.0
On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:19 am, Brad Grissom wrote: > I don't belive that is true. I have mounted a 2 terabyte scsi disk with > MDK 9.0 no problem. It was an external scsi self-contained hardware based > RAID, but still only appeared as one logical drive to the system. > > ~~Brad > > On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:31 am, you wrote: > > At this point, hard drives larger than 137 GB are only supported (by > > default) in the 2.5.3 kernel and higher. This is a kernel related > > problem, not a mandrake issue. > > > > For more information, take a look at > > http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk.html . > > > > Michael It is true for IDE drives only and it is a matter of running out of addressing bits. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:38, heather wrote: > I see lots of ppl have the Fortune program make them a sig for email. > Usually random. How do I do this or where can I go for information on > how to do this neat trick? :) > > Ty > Femme Attached is my signature generator. You're going to need to do a link on /usr/games/fortune to your /usr/bin directory, but after that, it's downhill... Wait, you're Canadian - you don't want a sig! (g) -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:50:00 +1100 9:50am up 12:47, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.12, 0.26 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The challenge of space exploration and particularly of landing men on the moon represents the greatest challenge which has ever faced the human race. Even if there were no clear scientific or other arguments for proceeding with this task, the whole history of our civilization would still impel men toward the goal. In fact, the assembly of the scientific and military with these human arguments creates such an overwhelming case that in can be ignored only by those who are blind to the teachings of history, or who wish to suspend the development of civilization at its moment of greatest opportunity and drama. - Sir Bernard Lovell, 1962, in "The History of Manned Space Flight" date -R > /tmp/date.txt fortune > /tmp/fortune.txt uptime > /tmp/uptime.txt sed r /tmp/date.txt /tmp/uptime.txt > /tmp/mdate.txt sed r /tmp/mdate.txt /root/signature.txt > /tmp/signature_temp.txt sed r /tmp/signature_temp.txt /tmp/fortune.txt > /root/final_signature.txt fortune > /etc/motd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] poor performance on software raid setup
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:40, Greg wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > you were right. I should have thought of it from that point > of view. But even when I do a hdparm test on the > individual drives, I still get very low readings. The > drives are both set with basically everything turned off, > including DMA. When I try to turn it on, it still tells > me that I am not permitted to use DMA on these drives. > Why would that be do you think. I know what you are > saying, regarding the trustworthyness of the results in > real world use, but the examples of other software raid > systems have all used the hdparm test to check results, > and they have shown an increase in throughput over > the single drive setup. There must be something wrong > here??!! > Maybe I should just forget about it, and go back to > the normal method. I have deffinately not seen an > improvement in speed, and can notice that it is > slightly more sluggish at the moment. It is just strange, > as this method is supposed to improve performance. > regards Greg Have you tried adding appended parameters to the kernel at bootup time? Here's what I have appended: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-3.img read-only root=/dev/hda3 append="hdd=ide-scsi idebus=66 ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66" Then, to top that off, I modified the /etc/sysconfig/harddisks and added: TRANSFER_MODE=69 As well, I always, ALWAYS modify my /etc/ld.so.conf prior to getting serious with either MDK or RH - so I make sure the lines: /usr/lib /usr/local/lib ...are added and then rerun "ldconfig" to rebuild the lib path cache, and also add in my /etc/profile the following: KDEDIR='/usr' export KDEDIR ...and reboot. I try to always attempt a "force" of ATA/IDE settings at kernel level, then ya know if you can get it performing prior to the actual system load. Once that's done (and check the messages with "dmesg") you should be able to start mucking around with further hdparm settings. Also some things to ask: do you have the latest video drivers for your graphics adaptor? What file system are you using? What colour shoes do you have on? Cheers! -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:45:00 +1100 9:45am up 12:42, 3 users, load average: 0.11, 0.34, 0.38 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Sometimes you get an almost irresistible urge to go on living. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] poor performance on software raid setup
Hi Benjamin, you were right. I should have thought of it from that point of view. But even when I do a hdparm test on the individual drives, I still get very low readings. The drives are both set with basically everything turned off, including DMA. When I try to turn it on, it still tells me that I am not permitted to use DMA on these drives. Why would that be do you think. I know what you are saying, regarding the trustworthyness of the results in real world use, but the examples of other software raid systems have all used the hdparm test to check results, and they have shown an increase in throughput over the single drive setup. There must be something wrong here??!! Maybe I should just forget about it, and go back to the normal method. I have deffinately not seen an improvement in speed, and can notice that it is slightly more sluggish at the moment. It is just strange, as this method is supposed to improve performance. regards Greg - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Pflugmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] poor performance on software raid setup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Email Sig & Fortune question
I see lots of ppl have the Fortune program make them a sig for email. Usually random. How do I do this or where can I go for information on how to do this neat trick? :) Ty Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kmail default browser
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:00 pm, Derek wrote: > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 7:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > When I click on links in kmail they don't come up with mozilla. How do I > > change this? > > KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File Associations > search for the fie type html > > Move the application of your choice to the top of the list. Same destination, different path - I forgot about this shorter path. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:17 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > > PPPoE is basically already built into the system, else you can use the > > PPPoE client from say, Roaring Penguin (RPM based so no thinking > > required) - I personally would try to stay within the actual parameters > > of the operating system - I tend to stick with what's already built into > > the networking before finding an alternative, but everyone likes their > > tea a different way! > > I should have a look at it I changed from modem to adsl just before I changed to 9.0. It was such a no-brainer with standard Mdk tools that I can hardly remember doing anything - and I certainly couldn't be called experienced. 9.0 detected it automatically, so I didn't need to do anything as far as I can remember. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:03 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Margot, I've been discussing your problem off-list with a knowledgeable friend. Here are his comments which should prove useful: It's probably the gateway setting. This is a recognised problem in Mdk 9 when you auto install and have a lan card and a modem. As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xawtv
On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:58 am, Pajó (N7) wrote: > I need help with my Flyvideo98 TV card Ronald (great name there! ), I had something like this happen to me with my WinTV card. (hauppage based). Everytime I used it while on the 'Net, it would lock my whole system up hard. It turned out to be an IRQ conflict. You might want to do a "cat /proc/interrupts" and see where bttv is. Here is what mine looks like: [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0:3275216 XT-PIC timer 1: 12695 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 4: 743100 XT-PIC serial 5:2337273 XT-PIC CMI8738-MC6, nvidia 7:708 XT-PIC bttv 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 10: 2481 XT-PIC eth0 11: 53582 XT-PIC aic7xxx, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 14: 140501 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 LOC:3275049 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 See - bttv is at IRQ 7 by itself. Hope this helps! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
> Ok, so it seems that humour is lost on the group today, so I shall > remain humourless for the duration of the day. I am not feeling all that humourfull after fighting with my new PC, just how to get into the computer to attach my CD-burner and harddrive from the old one nearly got me an heartattack LOL, anywayit is not your fault :o) > > PPPoE is basically already built into the system, else you can use the > PPPoE client from say, Roaring Penguin (RPM based so no thinking > required) - I personally would try to stay within the actual parameters > of the operating system - I tend to stick with what's already built into > the networking before finding an alternative, but everyone likes their > tea a different way! I should have a look at it Cheers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 08:48, Anders Lind wrote: > > Yes. Linux. > > Ehh...emm...now I am not sure I follow, could I just set it up via > dhcpcd or pump and it will run? > > /Anders Ok, so it seems that humour is lost on the group today, so I shall remain humourless for the duration of the day. PPPoE is basically already built into the system, else you can use the PPPoE client from say, Roaring Penguin (RPM based so no thinking required) - I personally would try to stay within the actual parameters of the operating system - I tend to stick with what's already built into the networking before finding an alternative, but everyone likes their tea a different way! Cheers! -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:00:00 +1100 9:00am up 11:57, 4 users, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.15 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- People that can't find something to live for always seem to find something to die for. The problem is, they usually want the rest of us to die for it too. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Repost: MandrakeOnline?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:31 pm, Terry Sheltra wrote: > Strange behavior .. nothing showed up in my last response. This is what > it said: > > Hey Anne, > > I did post a question after that. It dealt with MandrakeOnline, and read: > > Is there a way to schedule a computer that's registered with > MandrakeOnline to do updates earlier in the day than around midnight? > Still a newbie when it comes to this command line stuff .. lol :-) Just open webmin. (https://localhost:1 Install webmin RPM if it does not work) Select the page for "cron jobs" There will be a job in there for cron.daily select it and pick your time. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kmail default browser
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 7:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I click on links in kmail they don't come up with mozilla. How do I > change this? KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File Associations search for the fie type html Move the application of your choice to the top of the list. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting apps on GNOME start?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 9:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > I'm rather surprised that it's not doing it automagically - if you leave > an applicaton running when you exit Gnome2, it should, said SHOULD start > running when ya start it back up again... > > ...or maybe that was a bit of functionality that was lost in the change > between Gnome 1.4+ and GnomePew, er, Gnome2... not being an expert in these things but apparently gkrellm isn't "session-aware" and won't be restarted automagically - you do have to add it to startup programs in control centre/sessions. What I would really like is to have it start on all desktops but it doesn't seem to be possible. After starting gnome, you need to ALT-R click and select all desktops. Or am I just too lazy? :-) David -- Registered Linux User #207521 "The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory." (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
> Yes. Linux. Ehh...emm...now I am not sure I follow, could I just set it up via dhcpcd or pump and it will run? /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 08:30, Anders Lind wrote: > Hello, > > I finally have got ADSL at home so now I am looking for a PPPoE-client > for Linux, somebody that can recommend one? > > Best Regards, > Anders Yes. Linux. -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:40:00 +1100 8:40am up 11:37, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.07, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Dinner suggestion #302 (Hacker's De-lite): 1 tin imported Brisling sardines in tomato sauce 1 pouch Chocolate Malt Carnation Instant Breakfast 1 carton milk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
Hello, I finally have got ADSL at home so now I am looking for a PPPoE-client for Linux, somebody that can recommend one? Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting apps on GNOME start?
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:23, Jerry Barton wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:26:33 -0500 > Terry Sheltra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How can I configure an app to run when I login to GNOME? I want to be > > able to run gkrellm when I login, without having to manually run it > > everytime. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Terry Sheltra > If you open the gnome control center (mandrake menu/configuration/gnome control >center) then go to "Advanced" and the to "Session" click the "Startup Programs" tab >and you can add them there. > > :0) > > Jerry I'm rather surprised that it's not doing it automagically - if you leave an applicaton running when you exit Gnome2, it should, said SHOULD start running when ya start it back up again... ...or maybe that was a bit of functionality that was lost in the change between Gnome 1.4+ and GnomePew, er, Gnome2... ...I quit using Gnome altogether now - too much code bloat and not enough functionality. I don't have time to muck around. I just want things to work, that's that. -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:25:00 +1100 8:25am up 11:22, 4 users, load average: 0.10, 0.16, 0.17 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum. -- Arthur C. Clarke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to "More on Alas and Alack'
Here is a copy of my reply to Fred Langa. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [langalist] LangaList Standard Edition 2003-01-27 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:53:03 -0500 From: Dennis & Sue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Fred, Been a reader for years, I like your newsletter, and your style. I am replying to your article - Linux vs. XP Bugs. In it you brought up the point that, It is unfair to compare bugs in products with bugs in the O.S. If your only concern is a numeric count of bugs, Ok, that's fine, But I would suggest that what is looking to be studied is vulnerability of the "typical" user To get a fair / accurate assesment, It occurs to me that what should be compared is what the "typical" user has, or would have installed. As well as what the "typical" user uses, or would use. So it is entirely "fair" to include Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, and Office, Since a "typical" user would have these installed, and operational. On the Linux side, From my personal experience, It is "fair" to include Kmail, Galeon, Netscape 7, KOffice / Open Office. Or go with the Gnome desktop and include the equivelant. Most probably do not use Mozilla, ( Atleast I never do ). It would not be "fair" to include Server type software - Apache, IIS, etc, Since the "typical" user does not use, or have installed such products. To take it one step further though,I suppose such products should be brought in to the count, If they are installed by default, And not by the user. Personally, We switched to Linux fulltime from the Microsoft platform 6 -7 months ago. Now running Mandrake 9.0. My reasons were not strictly based upon "bugs", I understand that it's difficult at best, or impossible to make a perfect product. And I am not writing you to "flame" or rave about how Mandrake is perfect, never fails, configures itself, and does everything except the dishes. Or that since We've switched, We now have more friends, gotten promotions, and huge salaries. Rather, The main reason We switched to the Linux platform was a lack of trust, honesty, and integrity on the part of Microsoft. We did not like the direction Microsoft chose to go in, And chooses to continue in. Privacy issues, security issues, vulnerability issues,licensing issues, monopoly issues, strong arm tactics, and BSA issues all played a role. Simply put, Microsoft demonstrated to my satisfaction that they did not, want or need my business. I've simplified this quite a bit, But I expect you get the point. I am not offended that you point out Linux has bugs. Indeed it does. I know that, and actually expected it. But I know this : When I download the patch, That is what I am getting, That and nothing else. I am not getting a patch that will possibly open up new and exciting vulnerabilities, or installing in all probability, a spyware trojan designed to allow Microsoft unfettered access to my system. And I am not giving Microsoft the power to deny me the right to use whatever application I choose. I am also not giving my money to a company that assumes I am a liar and a thief. NO software has ever been, or will ever be that good. Sorry that I got a bit long there Fred, Again keep up the good work. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] poor performance on software raid setup
Hi. On Thu 2003-01-30 at 21:47:11 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > raid, I would get results around > 387mb cache, and 45mb read. The settings I would use on > these systems would be hdparm -X68 -c3 -d1 -u1 -m16. > Now, when I ran hdparm in md9 (had to install, the distro > didn't have it included) with the s/raid, I get results around > 330mb cache, and 5.5mb read. BIG performance drop. Sounds as if DMA is disabled. > When trying to set any parameter setting through hdparm, > it tells me that it can not use these setting on a scsi device. I think, using the command on the underlying devices (/dev/hda? etc.) should work. The /dev/md0 is only a logical device. Btw, note, that hdparm only measures raw throughput whereas the speed advantage of RAID also comes from improving access times (i.e. lowering latency). In other words: The RAID-level with highest hdparm rating is not necessarily the one which is fastest for real applications. Regards, Benjamin. msg117460/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:42 pm, Sharrea wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. > > Is anyone using one with Mandrake? > > > > Anne > > I have the SL-75KAV. There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge > and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0. A workaround was provided from > MDK8.1 onwards. Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive > disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec). Also crippled CD > burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning. > > One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not > recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I > used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto). > The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was > actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died! Not sure whether that > was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's?? > > Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a > problem. > > RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed). > > Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro > 64MB graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash... > so uninstalled Win98SE... > Thanks, Sharrea. The mobo that I think is failing is a 75KAV. I think the ide controller is dodgy. I'm having it tested at my supplier's lab, but I expect to be told that it will have to go. I'm thinking of a 75DRV to replace it. It's for my grandson, who needs it for his gcse work (he's doing IT, so he needs to run various apps in windows, though he has relegated his games playing to x-box), but he also wants to explore Mandrake, so the plan was to put in a new bigger HDD and give him dual-boot. Unfortunately, I'm having intermittant problems with the bios seeing drives on the primary ide, so I suspect it is dig deep in the wallet time :( Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Javascript and browsers -NS7
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:31 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Actually you don't have to do that at all. Start Netscape with the > "-ProfileManager" argument and create just the profile for Netscape. > That should take care of Netscape. > > As for Mozilla, since the two are sharing a home dir, (.mozilla) then > I'd 86 the preferences.js file and allow Mozilla to create a new copy of > that file. It's very likely that Netscape and Mozilla have been > fighting over this file and probably been trashin the place. Some good ideas there, Mark. I resorted to copying all the plugins and plugin links I could find into every likely spot, and Moz is behaving rather better at the moment, though Galeon isn't (not sure about Netscape, I've not used it for a week or two). Only thing is I need to hunt down what's giving me two versions of java in Moz (1.3something and 1.4 something). Well, I'll play some more in the morning. Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote: > I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. > Is anyone using one with Mandrake? > > Anne I have the SL-75KAV. There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0. A workaround was provided from MDK8.1 onwards. Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec). Also crippled CD burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning. One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto). The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died! Not sure whether that was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's?? Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a problem. RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed). Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro 64MB graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash... so uninstalled Win98SE... Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wheel mouse and laptop?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:38 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:14:11 -0500 > > Terry Sheltra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > This is what was received. > What did you send? > There are some odd things going on at the moment. You will see that this was addressed to me as well as to the list, and I got my copy. It said: Strange behavior .. nothing showed up in my last response. This is what it said: Hey Anne, I did post a question after that. It dealt with MandrakeOnline, and read: Is there a way to schedule a computer that's registered with MandrakeOnline to do updates earlier in the day than around midnight? Still a newbie when it comes to this command line stuff .. lol :-) -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Repost: MandrakeOnline?
Strange behavior .. nothing showed up in my last response. This is what it said: Hey Anne, I did post a question after that. It dealt with MandrakeOnline, and read: Is there a way to schedule a computer that's registered with MandrakeOnline to do updates earlier in the day than around midnight? Still a newbie when it comes to this command line stuff .. lol :-) -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wheel mouse and laptop?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:14:11 -0500 Terry Sheltra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. This is what was received. What did you send? Charles The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117454/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wheel mouse and laptop?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kmail default browser
When I click on links in kmail they don't come up with mozilla. How do I change this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mencoder: some questions
I was using it but then I started using dvdrip and transcode. Unfortunately it's graphical and you cant script it to run overnight. But it does a nice job of cropping and scaling... http://plf.zarb.org/ On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:17 pm, Joan Tur wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hallo! > > Anyone out there using mencoder to transform vobs to divx4 ? > > I'm using the following options > encoder -ovc divx4 -oac mp3lame Input.vob -o Output.avi > > It works fine, but quality is not good... how can I improve it?? 8-? > > Is it possible to split an .avi into 2 (or more) files?? 8-? > > TIA !! > - -- > Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain > AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 > www.ClubIbosim.org > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+ODbnok8j9RhtetwRAmXCAJ4uzKz6HjDUDCBFj6Nfq9cGlqeneQCghza7 > ULI8VLYteX9oL5aoNdDhGao= > =4cu1 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to "More on Alas and Alack'
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 7:09 pm, alex wrote: > My "crime," in the eyes of some Linuxen, is in the article > at http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013 . > You see, I counted the number of patches, bug fixes and > updates released for Red Hat Linux 7.2, and compared that to > the number of patches, bug fixes and updates released for > Windows XP. Even though both OSes have been out almost > exactly the same amount of time, and even though I > explicitly stated the caveats and conditions necessary for > the stats to make sense, some Linux fans simply couldn't > accept the numbers, which show that Linux has its own full > share of bugs--- some 151 patches to date. > >From which I think we could say - I told you so. The difference is that in Linux bugs are found and publicised, and patches released quickly. None of that is true for any Microsoft software. No more to say. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting apps on GNOME start?
Thanks Jerry. Was starting to wonder if my posts were making it to the list. Hadn't had any responses to my last question. That did the trick! Terry Jerry Barton wrote: If you open the gnome control center (mandrake menu/configuration/gnome control center) then go to "Advanced" and the to "Session" click the "Startup Programs" tab and you can add them there. :0) Jerry -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to "More on Alas and Alack'
On Thursday 30 January 2003 12:09 pm, alex wrote: Filtered. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Life is too short to stuff a mushroom. -- Storm Jameson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting apps on GNOME start?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:26:33 -0500 Terry Sheltra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I configure an app to run when I login to GNOME? I want to be > able to run gkrellm when I login, without having to manually run it > everytime. > > Thanks! > > -- > Terry Sheltra If you open the gnome control center (mandrake menu/configuration/gnome control center) then go to "Advanced" and the to "Session" click the "Startup Programs" tab and you can add them there. :0) Jerry -- _||_ (o_ //\ V_/_ Registered Linux User #300600 Registered Linux Machine #185855 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Correction to "More on Alas and Alack'
Sorry about sending the wrong URL in my previous 'More on Alas and Alack'. Rather than sending a new URL, I am sending a copy of Mr. Langa's response to what he says was a Firestorm of responses from Linux devotees.-alex -- (Quote) 1) Firestorm! OK, maybe I really am the spawn of Satan. Maybe I've been numbed by years of exposure to Microsoft products, so that I'm now incapable of seeing the truth. Maybe I'm just an idiot who can't count. 8-) Or maybe---just maybe--- some Linux users are just a teensy bit oversensitive about anything that remotely resembles criticism of their favored operating system. My "crime," in the eyes of some Linuxen, is in the article at http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013 . You see, I counted the number of patches, bug fixes and updates released for Red Hat Linux 7.2, and compared that to the number of patches, bug fixes and updates released for Windows XP. Even though both OSes have been out almost exactly the same amount of time, and even though I explicitly stated the caveats and conditions necessary for the stats to make sense, some Linux fans simply couldn't accept the numbers, which show that Linux has its own full share of bugs--- some 151 patches to date. But--- this is important--- there's lots more to this than the raw numbers. For example, patches may be "ganged" to fix more than one bug at a time, so (say) one Microsoft patch may actually reflect several different bugs. Plus, there's no exact, one-for-one correlation between even the base, low-level services in the different OSes. And both systems usually ship with many additional bundled high-level components that carry their own, separate load of bugs, and that may required their own patches. So, the point wasn't the exact numbers per se. The point was to get a rough comparison between operating systems to show that--- despite the extravagant claims of some Linuxen--- no OS is immune to bugs and security issues: As Linux grows in popularity, it will have its own full share of problems. Indeed, it has that full share even now. But some (actually many) among the Linux user base can't admit this: Anything that suggests that Linux has some serious warts, or that not all Microsoft products are Absolute Evil Encoded, gets denied or rejected out of hand: One poster actually tried to argue that my analysis was flawed because "Red Hat Linux isn't Linux." (What?) Another took the tack of arguing that I'm simply a "bootlicking shill." (Yes, ad hominem arguments and debate-by-name-calling are staples of discourse in the Linux community.) So, am I a bootlicking shill? Decide for yourself: Come check out http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013 . You can follow the links in that article back to the actual bug-report pages and judge the number and seriousness of various bugs for yourself, so you can make your own informed assessment as to what's real and what's not in this ongoing debate about the quality of Open Source software. The firestorm of comment appears in the associated discussion area. (And please excuse the sulfurous smell. I had an itch behind one horn, and ended up stabbing myself in the cloven foot with my pointed tail. It ain't easy being Satan's spawn...) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, et wrote: > > > > > I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and > > > yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand > > > how to correctly configure them > > > > seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you > > mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as > > per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your > > suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios > > set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and > > suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can > > get this thing moving! > > > > thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. > > -iggy > > DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as > hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on > the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of > /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers "upline" before > timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might > only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the > time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, > better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup > correctly. When I got dns wrong it affected absolutely everything. Opening a file from the desktop took upwards of a minute. Sure the startup was very, very slow, but so was every other time the system needed it. Maybe this setup has a correct entry coupled with one or more incorrect ones, so that eventually gets there, while mine just had to time out. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
> > > > I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and > > yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand > > how to correctly configure them > > seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you > mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per > www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your > suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios set > to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested > doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this > thing moving! > > thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. > -iggy DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers "upline" before timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup correctly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 12:56 pm, et wrote: > On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install > > > > On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: > > > iggy wrote: > > > >dear all, > > > > > > > >***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is > > > > painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of > > > > hell. > > > > > > > >***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), > > > > amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, > > > > sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card > > > > and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound > > > > card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) > > > > > > > >***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, > > > > fast > > > > > >logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. > > > > > > > >any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, > > > > so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) > > > > > > > >as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to > > > > generously help out those of us with less experience. > > > > > > An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are > > > running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times > > > I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, > > > so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of > > > these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost > > > offenders. > > > > > > Sir Robin > > > > thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with > > win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop > > normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and > > it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. > > > > also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm > > only > > interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon > > and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. > > since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and > > removed the program. > > > > if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me > > know. > > > > thanks, again. > > -iggy > > I would suggest you turn of DNS, cacheing name server, named, routed and yp > services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to > correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his sytem leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install > > On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: > > iggy wrote: > > >dear all, > > > > > >***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is > > > painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. > > > > > >***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd > > > 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony > > > 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and > > > hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, > > > (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) > > > > > >***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, > > fast > > > >logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. > > > > > >any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, > > > so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) > > > > > >as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to > > > generously help out those of us with less experience. > > > > An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are > > running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times > > I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so > > then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these > > can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. > > > > Sir Robin > > thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with > win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop > normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it > failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. > > also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm > only > interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and > uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm > not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the > program. > > if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. > > thanks, again. > -iggy > > One thing I found on my system, Gigabyte MB w/ Maxtor HD and Athlon 1800 > cpu, was that if I had the bios set with HD detection on auto my whole > system ran poorly, as in slow and glitchy. As soon as I did an detect hard > drives" in bios and then rebooted, we went into highgear and everything > works well. I have no explanation since I don't know how the auto function > works but, seems like it may be something to look at. HTH Dennis M. good idea... off to do a reboot! btw, seems like a good idea to shave a few seconds off the rare reboot (i do use win98 for several games). -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives
On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:22 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 2:24 am, iggy wrote: > > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only > > have one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked > > drives), when i attempt to configure users i get the error message > > "Cannot lock user lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > > > if you know where i can go to RTFM or have some pointers for me to try, > > any help is appreciated. > > > > ***extra info*** i am attempting to setup a linux terminal server using > > the resources at www.ltsp.org and need to create a boot diskette for the > > clients. > > > > thanks to all whom take time out of their busy lives to help a n00b like > > me > > > > :^) > > > > -iggy > > This may be a silly question... > But.. Is there a CD or floppy in the drive? > Supermount will show the drive as locked until there is media in it. > > If you do have a CD in the drive, then please post the contents of your > /etc/fstab file > > BTW: An audio CD does not count. An audio CD is not a file system and > cannot be browsed by Konqueror. (Well not unless you press the 'Services' > button which is the bottom button in the divider betweeen the left and > right Konqueror panes) > > derek i did have data cd and diskette in drive. as it turned out, i needed to delete /etc/ptmp and /etc/gtmp exist to get to userdrake. then i added the groups cdrom2 and floppy to user "iggy". while the icon shows locked for the floppy drive, i am able to use it normally. thank you (and everybody else) who took the time to help me. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives (resolved)
that did it. after i deleted the files i was able go into userdrake and add cdrom2 and floppy to user "iggy". afterwards, i was able to browse both. thank you and Anne W.. (same suggestion) very much. -iggy On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:44 am, Douglas B. wrote: > don't know about the drives > but regarding configuring users - > just deleting /etc/ptmp and /etc/gtmp (as su) seems to have no ill effects > and frees up useradd, configuring groups and users, etc. > > Doug > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 02:24, iggy wrote: > > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only > > have one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked > > drives), when i attempt to configure users i get the error message > > "Cannot lock user lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > > > if you know where i can go to RTFM or have some pointers for me to try, > > any help is appreciated. > > > > ***extra info*** i am attempting to setup a linux terminal server using > > the resources at www.ltsp.org and need to create a boot diskette for the > > clients. > > > > thanks to all whom take time out of their busy lives to help a n00b like > > me > > > > :^) > > > > -iggy > > > > > > __ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives (resolved)
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 08:24 pm, iggy wrote: > > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only > > have one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked > > drives), when i attempt to configure users i get the error message > > "Cannot lock user lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > > > if you know where i can go to RTFM or have some pointers for me to try, > > any help is appreciated. > > > > ***extra info*** i am attempting to setup a linux terminal server using > > the resources at www.ltsp.org and need to create a boot diskette for the > > clients. > > > > thanks to all whom take time out of their busy lives to help a n00b like > > me > > > > :^) > > > > -iggy > > iggy, if there are no media in the devices they will show as locked. If you > have media in the devices then do you do "userdrake" as su or root? Try it > from a console? HTH thanks for the tip. however, there was media in the drives. When i did "userdrake" from the console (as su) i had the same errors. Anne W. and Douglas B. both suggested removing the /etc/ptmp and /etc/gtmp files. i did go ahead and remove them. then went into userdrake though the console and added the groups cdrom2 and floppy to user "iggy". The locked icon went away for cdrom2 but not for floppy. however, i was able to use the floppy drive to delete and copy files to the floppy disk meaning that i was (obviously) able to use /mnt/floppy. i remain unconcerned about the locked floppy icon as the drive is usable. thanks for the suggestion. i now know of a quick way to change user specifiy configurations (i usually have a console open). su, then userdrake. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives (resolved)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 02:46 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 2:24 am, iggy wrote: > > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only > > have one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked > > drives), when i attempt to configure users i get the error message > > "Cannot lock user lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > This bit is one part of the problem (apart from the no-disk-in-the-drive). > Check /etc for one of the files mentioned above, and delete it if you find > one (or both). They are temp files left behind when something goes wrong. > > Anne that did it. after i deleted the files i was able go into userdrake and add cdrom2 and floppy to user "iggy". afterwards, i was able to browse both. thank you and Douglas B. (same suggestion) very much. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install > > On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: > > iggy wrote: > > >dear all, > > > > > >***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is > > > painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. > > > > > >***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd > > > 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony > > > 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and > > > hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, > > > (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) > > > > > >***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, > > fast > > > >logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. > > > > > >any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, > > > so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) > > > > > >as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to > > > generously help out those of us with less experience. > > > > An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are > > running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times > > I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so > > then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these > > can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. > > > > Sir Robin > > thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with > win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop > normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it > failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. > > also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm > only > interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and > uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm > not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the > program. > > if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. > > thanks, again. > -iggy I would suggest you turn of DNS, cacheing name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Javascript and browsers -NS7
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 5:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > >>>What things can I check? Moz shows > > >>>libjavaplugin_oji.so > > >>>libnullplugin.so > > >>>nppdf.so > > >>>libflashplayer.so > > >>>rpnp.so > > >>> > > >>>What's missing? > > >>> > > >>>Anne > > >> > > >>I don't know if its anything to do with your problem but your'e missing > > >> > > >>ShockwaveFlash.Class > > > > > > That's definitely in both > > > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins and > > > /usr/lib/netscape/plugins > > > > > > I don't know where Konq looks, but I would have thought these two > > > would serve Nscp, Moz and Galleon. Perhaps something's broken. I'm > > > getting a bit fed up of the problems with browsers. I wish I'd never > > > installed Nscp7 - it seems to have been much worse since them. I'm > > > tempted to try to copy the .mozilla directory elsewhere and hope that I > > > can keep all my settings and bookmarks whole, after deleting all three > > > of the group and then just reinstalling Moz and Galleon. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne, > > > > that sounds like a good idea. all you have to do is rename .mozilla to > > .mozilla-old and then start your browser. That will create a new home > > dir for mozilla. Then all you'll have to do is copy your bookmarks file, > > address book and history file over to the new .mozilla folder as well as > > your mail folders and info and you're set. > > I've done that before and it cleared up the mess, but not this time. It > put me through the create user wizard, but then flatly refused to start > Mozilla. It's looking more and more likely that it will have to be a > thorough uninstall and start again. All those annoying plugin hoops, > again! > > Anne I read yesterday that Netscape do not recommend the sharing of a profile with Mozilla. I believe that this has caused many of my problems, but since I did not come across that warning before I installed, it's too late now. I wonder if uninstalling NS will remove Mozilla as well, or just break it even further. And if it does the second, will I be able to uninstall Moz, or will it be messed up like trying to uninstall a broken windows app? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIGDRIVES (>128G) and MDK 9.0
I was talking about IDE hard drives, not SCSI or RAID arrays -- sorry that I didn't make that clearer. Michael At 09:19 AM 1/30/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I don't belive that is true. I have mounted a 2 terabyte scsi disk with MDK >9.0 no problem. It was an external scsi self-contained hardware based RAID, >but still only appeared as one logical drive to the system. > >~~Brad > >On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:31 am, you wrote: >> At this point, hard drives larger than 137 GB are only supported (by >> default) in the 2.5.3 kernel and higher. This is a kernel related problem, >> not a mandrake issue. >> >> For more information, take a look at >> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk.html . >> >> Michael > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] More on "Alas and Alack"
On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:23 am, alex wrote: > http://www.langa.com/sendit2.htm Stay under the MS umbrella Radsky. I personally don't need to read this crap here and have zero interest in what Microsoft mavens think of open source. I use what I want and these opinions are just so much noise that I'll be forced to filter if you continue to post them. Hint: the filter will be POP3, delete at server with keywords "alex" and "Radsky." -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org "What a wonder is USENET; such wholesale production of conjecture from such a trifling investment in fact." -- Carl S. Gutekunst Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
Title: RE: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: > iggy wrote: > >dear all, > > > >***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is > > painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. > > > >***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd > > 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony > > 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, > > g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i > > hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) > > > >***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast > >logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. > > > >any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so > > i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) > > > >as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to > > generously help out those of us with less experience. > > An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are > running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times > I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so > then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these > can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. > > Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy One thing I found on my system, Gigabyte MB w/ Maxtor HD and Athlon 1800 cpu, was that if I had the bios set with HD detection on auto my whole system ran poorly, as in slow and glitchy. As soon as I did an detect hard drives" in bios and then rebooted, we went into highgear and everything works well. I have no explanation since I don't know how the auto function works but, seems like it may be something to look at. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] Javascript and browsers
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 2:00 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:54 pm, Peter Watson wrote: > >>On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:11, Anne Wilson wrote: > >>>I'm still having a lot of problems with javascript in browsers - all > >>>browsers, Moz, NSCP7, Galleon, Konq. In each case I have javascript > >>>enabled for browsing (not mail & ng in Moz). Yet javascript doesn't > >>>seem to work in any except Konq. Even in Konq, if I go to, for > >>>instance, the bookmarklets site I am told that I need javascript, and > >>>can't continue. I did visit it from Mozilla a few weeks ago, but I > >>>suspect that whoever sent me there (sorry, I can't remember who) > >>>probably gave me a link beyond that page. Unfortunately I can't find > >>>it. > >>> > >>>What things can I check? Moz shows > >>>libjavaplugin_oji.so > >>>libnullplugin.so > >>>nppdf.so > >>>libflashplayer.so > >>>rpnp.so > >>> > >>>What's missing? > >>> > >>>Anne > >> > >>I don't know if its anything to do with your problem but your'e missing > >> > >>ShockwaveFlash.Class > > > > That's definitely in both > > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins and > > /usr/lib/netscape/plugins > > > > I don't know where Konq looks, but I would have thought these two would > > serve Nscp, Moz and Galleon. Perhaps something's broken. I'm getting a > > bit fed up of the problems with browsers. I wish I'd never installed > > Nscp7 - it seems to have been much worse since them. I'm tempted to try > > to copy the .mozilla directory elsewhere and hope that I can keep all my > > settings and bookmarks whole, after deleting all three of the group and > > then just reinstalling Moz and Galleon. > > > > Anne > > Anne, > > that sounds like a good idea. all you have to do is rename .mozilla to > .mozilla-old and then start your browser. That will create a new home > dir for mozilla. Then all you'll have to do is copy your bookmarks file, > address book and history file over to the new .mozilla folder as well as > your mail folders and info and you're set. I've done that before and it cleared up the mess, but not this time. It put me through the create user wizard, but then flatly refused to start Mozilla. It's looking more and more likely that it will have to be a thorough uninstall and start again. All those annoying plugin hoops, again! Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft User Group
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 1:12 pm, Rifza Adriansyah wrote: > In Indonesia, it is difficult to eliminate software piracy because the > lecturers at University/College use Windows and Software under > Windows to teach their Computer Science students. Microsoft Indonesia > bound the campus with "Campus Agreement", so the campus can buy > microsoft product at the discount price (10% off). I am sad if I see > computer students using pirated softwares to finish their homeworks. > What do they feel if they become programmers and someone crack or > pirate their softwares ?. > I use linux because I don't want to use pirated softwares. I feel > guilty if I use pirated softwares. Well, it is about ethics. Law can > be buy but your heart know that it is wrong. Even in more affluent countries like the UK students are caught out be this. Colleges and universities were initially given a veery good deal by Microsoft but then found themselves tied in. The result is that all courses are taught on MS software, and submissions have to be in MS format. For one module I took I bought Visual Basic - I was a part-time student with a full-time job, so had to be able to work in my own time. Close to the end of the module we were required to include an activex component. The standard package won't do that - you need the pro version. I ended up having to borrow a pirated copy just to do that one job. I could not afford the package and I will never use it again. I bitterly resent being forced into what I consider an immoral situation. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIGDRIVES (>128G) and MDK 9.0
I don't belive that is true. I have mounted a 2 terabyte scsi disk with MDK 9.0 no problem. It was an external scsi self-contained hardware based RAID, but still only appeared as one logical drive to the system. ~~Brad On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:31 am, you wrote: > At this point, hard drives larger than 137 GB are only supported (by > default) in the 2.5.3 kernel and higher. This is a kernel related problem, > not a mandrake issue. > > For more information, take a look at > http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk.html . > > Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Starting apps on GNOME start?
How can I configure an app to run when I login to GNOME? I want to be able to run gkrellm when I login, without having to manually run it everytime. Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: > iggy wrote: > >dear all, > > > >***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is > > painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. > > > >***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd > > 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony > > 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, > > g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i > > hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) > > > >***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast > >logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. > > > >any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so > > i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) > > > >as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to > > generously help out those of us with less experience. > > An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are > running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times > I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so > then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these > can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. > > Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very slow loading KDE and gnome
Many, many thanks to all for the sugestions. My thoughts as I sort through them... I am using a Duron 850 with 512 megs. The system boots fine. KDE through Debian loads <> faster on a slower machine with less memory, so to me that rules out memory/CPU and points to configuration, either software or hardware. This seems further narrowed to software by nearly instantaneous loading of IceWM and WindowManager, and for that matter faster loading of KDE and Gnome a while back. The fact the problems exist only with the desktops as opposed to plain window managers and X11 itself seems to me to rule out kernel problems. But a question -- am I understanding correctly that a desktop does not interact with the kernel services directly, but only through other managers/libraries shared by other programs? Sorry, I started too late in life to have an instinctive grasp of the details. The Crossover thing, along with another mention of stopping the scan for nsplugins, seems a good point. I'll try that this weekend. Deleting my user specific KDE config files and letting it rebuild them is another do-it. I'll see how another login on this same machine works first, but the root install of Crossover may obscure differences caused by Crossover or the plugins. What works better on KDE and Gnome? Mainly the more integrated menuing system, taskbar, configuration of personal preferences, etc. It's easier to get what I want how I want it. I'm sure the plain window managers will do it, just a bit harder to get there and may involve installing more geegaws. All in all, I want it simple to use, small, and full-featured. Typical Yank, I don't want to settle for two of three ;-) Still open for suggestions, and I'll try to update what happens with the two most obvious maybes. Fred Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft User Group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:25 am, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > Hi all, > It makes sense to use some sensible linux distro instead of using > pirated MS s/w. > Consider - Windows OS ($8/-) + MS Office ($8/-) + MSVC ($8/-) + > SqlServer ($8/-) + Adobe suite (acrobat, photoshop...$8/-) + ... = > $40 atleast Boxed Mandrake Linux (standard) was $50/- (7.2) > Or if you try Debian, FreeBSD = $10-15/- > With linux/BSD you get a whole lot of software as well. > Those were prices in Singapore. In India, it is 100/- for a CD > (USD2/-). So a Linux CD set would cost upwards of Rs300/- when you > could get it for half the price from the Linux users group. > Like Indonesia, most people > here buy Windows and Windows programs on the street for about $3. > > Now I know why the EU is reluctant to admit Turkey. In Indonesia, it is difficult to eliminate software piracy because the lecturers at University/College use Windows and Software under Windows to teach their Computer Science students. Microsoft Indonesia bound the campus with "Campus Agreement", so the campus can buy microsoft product at the discount price (10% off). I am sad if I see computer students using pirated softwares to finish their homeworks. What do they feel if they become programmers and someone crack or pirate their softwares ?. I use linux because I don't want to use pirated softwares. I feel guilty if I use pirated softwares. Well, it is about ethics. Law can be buy but your heart know that it is wrong. - -- Rifza Adriansyah Are you using GnuPG ? Find my public key at http://belgium.keyserver.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+OSSzH9VEhcXPGz4RApefAJ47I0MmQplg/5wTGjKouHWQdMZCYACgxC+W ytIJpmC/4VGKv2IIdacUngc= =pRdA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] More on "Alas and Alack"
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Re: [newbie] Shorewall and Slammer
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:15 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > Oh btw, Kaj, you lost your bet :P March 3 it isn't! Did we bet ? - Anyway, I'm very glad you are back and well, Femme ! Kaj Haulrich. P.S. The portscanning of my box doesn't seem to affect anything, so I suppose Shorewall is doing its job. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Javascript and browsers
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:54 pm, Peter Watson wrote: > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:11, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I'm still having a lot of problems with javascript in browsers - all > > browsers, Moz, NSCP7, Galleon, Konq. In each case I have javascript > > enabled for browsing (not mail & ng in Moz). Yet javascript doesn't > > seem to work in any except Konq. Even in Konq, if I go to, for > > instance, the bookmarklets site I am told that I need javascript, and > > can't continue. I did visit it from Mozilla a few weeks ago, but I > > suspect that whoever sent me there (sorry, I can't remember who) > > probably gave me a link beyond that page. Unfortunately I can't find > > it. > > > > What things can I check? Moz shows > > libjavaplugin_oji.so > > libnullplugin.so > > nppdf.so > > libflashplayer.so > > rpnp.so > > > > What's missing? > > > > Anne > > I don't know if its anything to do with your problem but your'e missing > > ShockwaveFlash.Class > That's definitely in both /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins and /usr/lib/netscape/plugins I don't know where Konq looks, but I would have thought these two would serve Nscp, Moz and Galleon. Perhaps something's broken. I'm getting a bit fed up of the problems with browsers. I wish I'd never installed Nscp7 - it seems to have been much worse since them. I'm tempted to try to copy the .mozilla directory elsewhere and hope that I can keep all my settings and bookmarks whole, after deleting all three of the group and then just reinstalling Moz and Galleon. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to automatically upgrade mandrake
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 7:29 am, Angus Auld wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Steve Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:58:26 + > > > > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you want to make it automatic putting these commands in a cron job > > > will get all applicable updates for you automatically. > > > > > > urpmi.update -a > > > urpmi --update --auto --auto-select > > > > Question, > > will auto updating avoid something like a kernel "upgrade" - headers or > > otherwise? > > > > I remember once back in 8.0 I think, that the GUI gave me the option to > > update the kernel or kernel headers...and I avoided it everytime. I > > seem to remember once doing that either for mandrake or redhat, and it > > screwed up my system bad (that is it gave me the option to "upgrade" > > kernel something or another) > > > > I know...NEVER upgrade the kernel...that is why I am asking about these; > > urpmi.update -a > > urpmi --update --auto --auto-select > > > > Thanks > > * > > Hi Steve, there is a file in /etc/urpmi called, "inst.list". This file > contains a list of packages that need to be installed rather than upgraded. > In my 9.0 system, this list contains kernel specific packages. > > I assume you can add others here that you want installed rather than > upgraded too. > > HTH. Regards. > > --Angus > This thread prompted me to take a look at the MandrakeOnline Service. I had ignored it since Release 8.1 when all it did is send you e-mails when there was a security update to do. It seems that now MandrakeOnline has evolved into quite a nice autoupdating facility. Just register your computer at www.mandrakeonline.com, and then go through the mdkupdate wizard via the link on your desktop. If you check the option in the wizard for auto updates you then will do a nightly update of all outstanding packages. A page on mandrakeonline tells you which packages are scheduled, and shows a log of all transactions. The cron job which does all this runs in the middle of the night. If your computer is not switched on then, it will of course not run. Installing the anacron RPM will ensure the job runs in the morning when you switch the computer on. The cron job basically does the same as the urpmi.update/urpmi --auto-select already discussed. The MandrakeOnline service is free for a single computer, but they charge for multiple computers. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center->System->Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives
don't know about the drives but regarding configuring users - just deleting /etc/ptmp and /etc/gtmp (as su) seems to have no ill effects and frees up useradd, configuring groups and users, etc. Doug On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 02:24, iggy wrote: > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only have > one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked drives), > when i attempt to configure users i get the error message "Cannot lock user > lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > if you know where i can go to RTFM or have some pointers for me to try, any > help is appreciated. > > ***extra info*** i am attempting to setup a linux terminal server using the > resources at www.ltsp.org and need to create a boot diskette for the clients. > > thanks to all whom take time out of their busy lives to help a n00b like me > :^) > > -iggy > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Douglas B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [newbie] HELLLLPPP!!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 10:49 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > I have no idea of what is the problem you are experiencing. Corrupted > > boot partition, maybe? > > I've just realised that the reply sent earlier via webmail will not come > through. It was on these lines: > > Thanks for a speedy reply, Raffaele. I don't know exactly how it got > fixed, but fixed it is. Received: from [212.18.226.161] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:27:00 + Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:27:00 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Came through for me. Superior email address? :-) _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Javascript and browsers
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:11, Anne Wilson wrote: > I'm still having a lot of problems with javascript in browsers - all > browsers, Moz, NSCP7, Galleon, Konq. In each case I have javascript > enabled for browsing (not mail & ng in Moz). Yet javascript doesn't > seem to work in any except Konq. Even in Konq, if I go to, for > instance, the bookmarklets site I am told that I need javascript, and > can't continue. I did visit it from Mozilla a few weeks ago, but I > suspect that whoever sent me there (sorry, I can't remember who) > probably gave me a link beyond that page. Unfortunately I can't find > it. > > What things can I check? Moz shows > libjavaplugin_oji.so > libnullplugin.so > nppdf.so > libflashplayer.so > rpnp.so > > What's missing? > > Anne I don't know if its anything to do with your problem but your'e missing ShockwaveFlash.Class HTH Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA
on win box, change the "print Processor" from "emf" to "raw" (on mine , start,> settings,> printer,> Samba printer,> Advanced,> print Processor,> dropdown menu selected raw. might be different since different print drivers get different setups On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:03 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It has almost got me going. Windows now reports the printer as 'ready' > however whenever I try and print 'explorer.exe has encountered a problem', > or I get 'unable to create print job' any suggestions ?? (The printer is a > HP LaserJet 4 using the driver that comes with windows. The printer is also > shared on an MS server, and I can print fine from that share) > > Thanks, > > Jamie > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ITS > Internal Extension : 5806 > Direct Dial: 0870 754 5806 > > > -Original Message- > From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 29 January 2003 18:56 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA > > On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 6:51 pm, et wrote: > > After hijacking this (i think) thread the other day with my own "print > > from windows" problems I guess I might pipe in and offer some of what > > i have discovered in the last day seems (in my case anyway) the > > problem has to do with the fact that the drivers from the windows side > > are not Postscript. and the cups are expecting Postscript. I found > > after chasing some of the links Anne posted that the problem for me > > was cured by > > > > "use client driver = yes the Global section > > > > and also added guest ok =yes to the printers section, > > > > and finally changed the print command to: > > print command = lpr -P %p -o raw %s -r " > > > > this allows the windows drivers to be used and does not expect > > postscript if it is not a postscript kinda printer > > Glad you got yours going, et. Hope it does the same for Jamie. > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA + pdf writing printer
Great news - Cheers Anne On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Excellent, I've change the path to /var/spool/samba. It now works fine !! > > I even managed to get my pseudo pdf printer to work properly ! > -Original Message- > From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 January 2003 11:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA > > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've had a look in the log file, it appears to be a permissions > > problem. > > > > The log entry is: > > > > [2003/01/30 09:50:23, 0] printing/printing.c:print_job_start(951) > > print_job_start: insufficient permissions to open spool file > > /var/spool/cups/tmp/smbprn.27.SRAafA. > > > > What do I need to change in smb.conf? (the /var/spool/cup/tmp dir is > > owned by lp:sys with drwx-T ) > > Mine is lp:sys with drwx--, but my smb.conf defines the samba printing > to > go to /var/spoo/samba. Rightly or wrongly, that has root:root with > drwxrwxrwt - I don't know what that final 't' signifies? > > Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Microsoft User Group
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 09:52, Robert Wideman wrote: > In Asia he (Gates) is trying to crack down on piracy...its where 75% of > piracy comes from in the world. Dont know how well it is working for him. > About 3 months ago i heard about a ship in international waters off the > coast of the Philipines (spelling?) and I dont know what happened to it but > i do know that no country law could technically do anything since being in > international waters. Anyone know about this? > Rob Most of Asia could really care less about Microsoft's laws, or actually, Western laws - especially those that are wrought by business for business - as is fastly becoming the case with most of the major cases in the US today. China certainly doesn't give a hoot, South Korea, even though it's one of the most "plugged in" countries doesn't care - to them, the idea of "the software police" is more a joke than anything and it ain't gonna stop anyone from either making copies of software, selling copies of software (or movies) or anything else for that matter. Some of that "Asian Attitude" is prevalent here in Australia as well - due to it's locale and proximity. Microsoft has already pissed off several key governmental departments with high priced upgrades - and threats about licensing - we don't have heaps of money like back in the US, and some US based companies end up loosing the Aussie market due to that lack of forethought and arrogance. I personally could care less if the software police came after me - I'm cleaning up my stuff and changing EVERYTHING in the house over to opensource - my wife has been reading through enough of the news lately to formulate her own ideas about the whole picture, and well, it's better than me forcing her to switch over. She just needs to get familiar with some more bits and bobs, but she knows how stable it is and how much more cool and configurable linux is... (If I can only get the damn Canon 265SP printer to work happily and get the damn Canon LIDE scanner working happily, all will be history) Meanwhile, in the waters around Asia-Pacific - any boat that's in international waters is open to literally anything - or vice-versa. It's strange coming from a country that has the Coast Guard always watchful... -- Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:05:00 +1100 11:05pm up 2:02, 4 users, load average: 1.42, 1.38, 1.20 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech MX500 Mouse Support
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:08:35 +0100 Jure Repinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have this mouse and is using it under Mandrake? How does > it work? Are all of the buttons functional? Depends on what you mean by do all the buttons work. The wheel works and the top speed scroll buttons operate as such. The extra side buttons operate as right click, left click. You could probably edit the config to give other options for the side buttons but it works fine for me as is, Charles Nothing recedes like success. -- Walter Winchell -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre3-3mdk -- msg117403/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Javascript and browsers
I'm still having a lot of problems with javascript in browsers - all browsers, Moz, NSCP7, Galleon, Konq. In each case I have javascript enabled for browsing (not mail & ng in Moz). Yet javascript doesn't seem to work in any except Konq. Even in Konq, if I go to, for instance, the bookmarklets site I am told that I need javascript, and can't continue. I did visit it from Mozilla a few weeks ago, but I suspect that whoever sent me there (sorry, I can't remember who) probably gave me a link beyond that page. Unfortunately I can't find it. What things can I check? Moz shows libjavaplugin_oji.so libnullplugin.so nppdf.so libflashplayer.so rpnp.so What's missing? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA + pdf writing printer
Excellent, I've change the path to /var/spool/samba. It now works fine !! I even managed to get my pseudo pdf printer to work properly ! Thanks, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITS Internal Extension : 5806 Direct Dial: 0870 754 5806 -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 January 2003 11:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've had a look in the log file, it appears to be a permissions > problem. > > The log entry is: > > [2003/01/30 09:50:23, 0] printing/printing.c:print_job_start(951) > print_job_start: insufficient permissions to open spool file > /var/spool/cups/tmp/smbprn.27.SRAafA. > > What do I need to change in smb.conf? (the /var/spool/cup/tmp dir is > owned by lp:sys with drwx-T ) Mine is lp:sys with drwx--, but my smb.conf defines the samba printing to go to /var/spoo/samba. Rightly or wrongly, that has root:root with drwxrwxrwt - I don't know what that final 't' signifies? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt4rpm
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 19:41, Todd Slater wrote: > Is anybody out there using apt4rpm? If so, what are your impressions of > it? > In the absence of any other replies: I have used apr4rpm with SuSE 8.0 and 8.1, but not with Mandrake. With SuSE it was very useful because there is no online software installation other than Online Update, which really only provides bugfixes, etc, rather than version updates, new packages, etc. There is a lot of support for apt and SuSE so plenty of packages are available on the repositories, but I don't know if that's the case for Mandrake. To be honest, I can't see it being any better than urpmi which offers all the software you would want and resolution of dependencies, which makes it pretty comparable to apt for debian (still the best, I'm afraid). I did occasionally have dependency problems with apt4rpm but I suspect that that is probably down to the rpm packaging system rather than apt itself. There is quite a nice GUI for apt called synaptic if you prefer that approach. Don't know if that's any help to you..;-) David -- Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've had a look in the log file, it appears to be a permissions problem. > > The log entry is: > > [2003/01/30 09:50:23, 0] printing/printing.c:print_job_start(951) > print_job_start: insufficient permissions to open spool file > /var/spool/cups/tmp/smbprn.27.SRAafA. > > What do I need to change in smb.conf? (the /var/spool/cup/tmp dir is owned > by lp:sys with drwx-T ) Mine is lp:sys with drwx--, but my smb.conf defines the samba printing to go to /var/spoo/samba. Rightly or wrongly, that has root:root with drwxrwxrwt - I don't know what that final 't' signifies? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] poor performance on software raid setup
Hi list, just installed md yesterday. When setting up partitions I decided to use software raid on the recomendations of some that it can give a good increase in performance. Previously on my other linux installs, taking the hdparm readings as a performance measure, when not using software raid, I would get results around 387mb cache, and 45mb read. The settings I would use on these systems would be hdparm -X68 -c3 -d1 -u1 -m16. Now, when I ran hdparm in md9 (had to install, the distro didn't have it included) with the s/raid, I get results around 330mb cache, and 5.5mb read. BIG performance drop. When trying to set any parameter setting through hdparm, it tells me that it can not use these setting on a scsi device. I presume it is treating the raid dev (md0) as a scsi drive? Where am I going wrong, and how do I increase the performance on this software raid setup. Otherwise I will have to re-install back to the orriginal method. BTW, the hard drives are on separate buses, each with a cdrom as their slave. thanks Greg p.s. I have migrated from red hat. This is the first time I have tried using md properly. Tried a while back, but could not get networking to work, so gave up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA
I've had a look in the log file, it appears to be a permissions problem. The log entry is: [2003/01/30 09:50:23, 0] printing/printing.c:print_job_start(951) print_job_start: insufficient permissions to open spool file /var/spool/cups/tmp/smbprn.27.SRAafA. What do I need to change in smb.conf? (the /var/spool/cup/tmp dir is owned by lp:sys with drwx-T ) Thanks, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITS Internal Extension : 5806 Direct Dial: 0870 754 5806 -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 January 2003 10:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:03 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It has almost got me going. Windows now reports the printer as 'ready' > however whenever I try and print 'explorer.exe has encountered a > problem', or I get 'unable to create print job' any suggestions ?? > (The printer is a HP LaserJet 4 using the driver that comes with > windows. The printer is also shared on an MS server, and I can print > fine from that share) I'm at the limit of my knowledge. Question to gurus - is this a permission problem, a master-browser type problem, or something else? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELLLLPPP!!
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:31 am, you wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:21 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:10 am, you wrote: > > > Came through for me. > > > > > > Superior email address? :-) > > > > > > _nasturtium > > > > Sorry for sending it to you all twice. I have at times had problems when > > I try to send through webmail via another isp's server, so when it hadn't > > arrived an hour or so later I thought it had been blocked again. > > Obviously not. Sorry, again. > > > > Anne > > Nothing wrong with that (I once even sent to the list inadvertently for a > private mailing). > What is really strange is: > why isn't MY email on the list? > > The other one about Abiword sent... I keep forgetting to change the reply address - you must have the 'Reply-to' field set. Sorry about that. Are you saying, though, that the one from Tiscali's webmail came to you on your private mail, not the list? I'm curious, because Femme got one like that a couple of days ago. I checked on my sent mail, and it definitely didn't have her name on the 'to' field. Perhaps this is one of those periodical glitches with Mandrake's list server. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing from browsers
I meet all sorts of oddities when I try to print web pages direct from a browser. The biggest problem appears to me to come from web pages where everything is set to proportional. Since none of the linux browsers that I have met allow me to print only a selected frame (Galleon says it does - but it doesn't work), by the time it is scaled down I have fonts of about 4 points - totally unreadable. Some pages print successfully over several pages if necessary, including duplex printing, but others simply print one page, cutting off in the middle of whatever it was doing, and there's no way of getting the rest. Konqueror is nicest for printing, as it allows access to all printers set up under kde. If anyone has found a way around any of these problems, I'd like to hear. Meanwhile, browsing from mozilla.org, I came across Xprint. Has anyone used it? Is it worth trying to install it? http://xprint.mozdev.org/ Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] locked floppy and cdrom2 drives
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 2:24 am, iggy wrote: > i've searched through the archives looking for past threads and have been > unsuccessful, so here goes... > > if i log in as "iggy" or "root", either way the floppy drive (fd0, i only > have one) and cdrom2 have a locked icon in konqueror. > > in the control center (this may or may not be related to the locked > drives), when i attempt to configure users i get the error message "Cannot > lock user lib, file /etc/ptmp or /etc/gtmp exist" > > if you know where i can go to RTFM or have some pointers for me to try, any > help is appreciated. > > ***extra info*** i am attempting to setup a linux terminal server using > the resources at www.ltsp.org and need to create a boot diskette for the > clients. > > thanks to all whom take time out of their busy lives to help a n00b like me > > :^) > > -iggy This may be a silly question... But.. Is there a CD or floppy in the drive? Supermount will show the drive as locked until there is media in it. If you do have a CD in the drive, then please post the contents of your /etc/fstab file BTW: An audio CD does not count. An audio CD is not a file system and cannot be browsed by Konqueror. (Well not unless you press the 'Services' button which is the bottom button in the divider betweeen the left and right Konqueror panes) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Abiword in 9.0
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:10 am, _nasturtium wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:38 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > OK, I am new to Mandrake, but not Linux, I ran RH 6.2-8.0 where it > > died for me. > > > > So now I am reasonably happy with Mandrake, but missing my abiword. I > > can't seem to find a rpm for it that will run. I purchased the > > download edition, and wonder if only the big spenders get it. > > > > If its not available as an official rpm from Mandrake, is there a way > > around it other than source? > > > > Rob > > Hello, > A good place to find *any* RPM/binaries for a program would be > www.rpmfind.net (a quick search for AbiWord yields the results), the > advantage being that binaries for all distributions and their versions are > available (Redhat, Debian et al). > Or you could try .sourceforge.net. ie for gaim, it would be > gaim.sourceforge.net. It's on my set of disks, so if you haven't already got it, perhaps you need to set up Contribs in your sources list. I would guess that it's there. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:03 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It has almost got me going. Windows now reports the printer as 'ready' > however whenever I try and print 'explorer.exe has encountered a problem', > or I get 'unable to create print job' any suggestions ?? (The printer is a > HP LaserJet 4 using the driver that comes with windows. The printer is also > shared on an MS server, and I can print fine from that share) I'm at the limit of my knowledge. Question to gurus - is this a permission problem, a master-browser type problem, or something else? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Abiword in 9.0
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:38 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > OK, I am new to Mandrake, but not Linux, I ran RH 6.2-8.0 where it > died for me. > > So now I am reasonably happy with Mandrake, but missing my abiword. I > can't seem to find a rpm for it that will run. I purchased the > download edition, and wonder if only the big spenders get it. > > If its not available as an official rpm from Mandrake, is there a way > around it other than source? > > Rob Hello, A good place to find *any* RPM/binaries for a program would be www.rpmfind.net (a quick search for AbiWord yields the results), the advantage being that binaries for all distributions and their versions are available (Redhat, Debian et al). Or you could try .sourceforge.net. ie for gaim, it would be gaim.sourceforge.net. Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA
It has almost got me going. Windows now reports the printer as 'ready' however whenever I try and print 'explorer.exe has encountered a problem', or I get 'unable to create print job' any suggestions ?? (The printer is a HP LaserJet 4 using the driver that comes with windows. The printer is also shared on an MS server, and I can print fine from that share) Thanks, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITS Internal Extension : 5806 Direct Dial: 0870 754 5806 -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Sharing printers via SAMBA On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 6:51 pm, et wrote: > After hijacking this (i think) thread the other day with my own "print > from windows" problems I guess I might pipe in and offer some of what > i have discovered in the last day seems (in my case anyway) the > problem has to do with the fact that the drivers from the windows side > are not Postscript. and the cups are expecting Postscript. I found > after chasing some of the links Anne posted that the problem for me > was cured by > > "use client driver = yes the Global section > > and also added guest ok =yes to the printers section, > > and finally changed the print command to: > print command = lpr -P %p -o raw %s -r " > > this allows the windows drivers to be used and does not expect > postscript if it is not a postscript kinda printer > Glad you got yours going, et. Hope it does the same for Jamie. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 7:53 pm, Margot wrote: > TCP/IP settings from windoze machine: > All the following are checked: > Server assigned IP address > Server assigned name server address > Use IP header compression > Use default gateway on remote network > > The servers are: > POP server: pop.eurobell.co.uk > SMTP server: mail.eurobell.co.uk > News server: news.eurobell.co.uk OK - let's try to sort this out. I'm on adsl now, so I haven't set a connection up like this under 9.0, but I've got the manual in front of me, so it should prompt the memory. In MCC, open Network & Internet, then Connection. You should see your present connection listed there. If you are on a lan, you will see that too. If I remember correctly, under 8.2 it was difficult to do anything useful to the profile without clicking on the Expert button, which then allowed you to choose between amending the lan connection and amending the internet connection. This allows manual configuration. If you are not on a lan, I presume that you will not need that. Anyway, we'll try the wizard way first. Connection name - Eurobell Phone number - your dial-in number - since you're on adsl this will not be an option, I guess. Login ID - as issued by Eurobell - just the same as you need in windows Password - ditto Authentication - Eurobell should have told you the type to use. If they haven't you will have to experiment. I think CHAP is the most common. Domain name - eurobell.co.uk First DNS Server - Eurobell should have given you at least one dns server ip, preferrably two. The wizard says 'Optional' but do put them in. That should be all you need to connect. From what you have said before I'm guessing that you probably have this part right, except, possibly the dns server ip. You would be able to connect, but may not be able to surf if you don't have that ip in your configuration. To get email and news you then have to set up a client. I'll give you the setting for Mozilla, because it does both email and news. You can apply pretty much the same to any other clients you choose. When you first go to Moz Mail & Newsgroups it runs a wizard. If this has already been done while you were experimenting, you can make changes by clicking on the top line of the account you set up, then selecting 'View Settings for thie Account'. First screen Account name - theoretically it can be anything you like, but it's safest to call it by your Eurobell login name - some clients use this field for logging in. Your Name - Margot Email Address - your usual address Reply-to-Address - don't set this unless you want replies to go to a different account. It causes problems for the list. Compose messages in html - unchecked Server Settings (second screen, from left-hand menu) Server Name - mail.eurobell.co.uk User name - As given to you by Eurobell - the one you use to log in Port - usually set to 110 Make your selections from the next set of boxes. If you are going to experiment with several clients, select 'Leave messages on server@'for all but one of them. For the local directory, leave the default. Copies & Folders I like to select Place a copy in Local Folders for all sections - you keep copies on your hdd then. I like to feel in control The rest of the pages you can leave at default. Go down the left-hand column then to Outgoing Server (SMTP) This screen is important. Server Name - smtp.eurobell.co.uk Use name and password - this depends on the isp. Try without it. If it doesn't work set it to the ones you need for Eurobell. Some smtp servers use it, some don't and will bounce your mail if you tick it. That should get you mail. Setting up a mail server is almost exactly the same. Try all that and let us know what happens. If it still doesn't work, try to note down exactly how far you get - what happens, and when it stops responding. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
