[newbie-it] Manutenzione stampante Epson (MTINK)

2003-02-06 Thread gianmario . berselli
In Mandrake9.0 esiste un programma MTINK per manutenzione delle stampanti
Epson, utilizzato da root funziona ma se tento di usarlo da utente compare
una finestra con le seguenti scritte.

'Errore
nessun accesso al file del dispositivo stampante.

assicurarsi che mtink abbia i diritti per accedere ai file dispositivo

fai anche riferimento alla documentazione.'

Il tasto 'Aiuto' non da alcun aiuto.

Qualcuno può indicarmi il modo di utilizzare MTINK da utende.

G.M.  





Re: [newbie-it] Manutenzione stampante Epson (MTINK)

2003-02-06 Thread Daniele Micci
Alle 09:51, giovedì 6 febbraio 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 In Mandrake9.0 esiste un programma MTINK per manutenzione delle stampanti
 Epson, utilizzato da root funziona ma se tento di usarlo da utente
 compare una finestra con le seguenti scritte.

 'Errore
 nessun accesso al file del dispositivo stampante.

 assicurarsi che mtink abbia i diritti per accedere ai file dispositivo

 fai anche riferimento alla documentazione.'

 Il tasto 'Aiuto' non da alcun aiuto.

 Qualcuno può indicarmi il modo di utilizzare MTINK da utende.

 G.M.

Due opzioni: esegui mtink da console di root (come faccio io), oppure rendi 
mtink suidato, così che ogni utente possa eseguirlo con i diritti di 
root.
Ciao...

Daniele

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numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»




[newbie-it] I soliti casini con OO

2003-02-06 Thread Arwan
Intanto, grazie a tutti i consigli per il problema della stampante; sto 
scaricando il pdf995 e a breve lo testero'.
Il motivo della mia mail, pero', e' il seguente: ho un file fatto con kspread, 
e dovrei convertirlo in un formato leggibile da OO. Ovviemente, posso 
esportarlo come file di testo oppure come un csv, ma a quel punto OO lo apre 
come testo (in tutti e due i casi) e non ne vuole sapere di farmi vedere i 
dati in un foglio di calcolo. Con il copia incolla non funziona, e se gli 
dico importa dati posso selezionare il file da importare, mi mostra come 
sara' il tutto ad operazione terminata, do' OK ma poi mi ricompare la 
finestra di importazione, con la casella dell'OK non attiva... Che devo fa'?

-- 
Arwan




[newbie-it] compilato kde 3.1 ma no antialiasing

2003-02-06 Thread [HCS]OKreZ
Salve a tutti, ho compilato (con l'aiuto dell'ottimo konstruct) kde 3.1 su 
mandrake 9. Tutto bene a parte l'antialiasing, che non funziona ne' sui 
caratteri ne' sulle icone (le quali risultano proprio brutte). Qualcuno ha 
qualche idea ? credo che sia una cosa che dipenda da come kontruct ha 
compilato le qt 3.1, ma non ne sono sicuro...

Grazie, saluti !

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[newbie-it] Suggerimenti: installazione e pacchetti

2003-02-06 Thread Alessandro Piaser
Ciao a tutti,
vi scrivo per chiedervi dei suggerimenti,
come al solito avete a che fare con un utente tuttosommato nuovo a linux,
anche se ho passato un po' di tempo a fare qualche prova.
Bene, fatte le presentazioni passo ad illustrarvi l'antefatto che mi porta a
chiedervi dei suggerimenti.
Convinto un amico che linux è la soluzione a portata di tutti gli propongo
di installarlo in versione essenziale con un programma per i testi tipo
kwrite e un foglio elettronico, e mi ritrovo così col suo computer in casa e
una bella gatta da pelare.

Io avevo pensato di installare la Mandrake 8 o la 9, ovviamente con
interfaccia grafica magari KDE 3 e magari con OpenOffice, ma ho subito
capito che il suo computer non le regge.

Pentium 166, Mainboard FX, scheda video S3virge 4Mb, 24Mb di ram,hard disk
da 540MB, Cd-Rom 2x Creative (Panasonic 563B) interfaccia proprietaria su
sound blaster 16 (ISA).
Al che c'è da aggiungere che il Bios supporta il boot solo da A o da C e
ovviamente non si può bootare dal Cd Creative.

Può essere una soluzione provare con altre distribuzioni magari più leggere

Qualsiasi suggerimento è ben accetto

Ciao

Alessandro






Re: [newbie] KDE3.1?

2003-02-06 Thread David E. Fox
 Has anyone used Texstar's KDE3.1 rpms=20
 (ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distri=
 butions/mandrake/9.0/KDE-3.1)=20

People generally have had good success with the Texstar RPMS. That
said, I recently updated using the cooker RPMs and things generally
work well, save for one serious problem with the X autostart - which
may not be a KDE issue (probably not) but graphical logins don't
work. It claims the user does not exist in the logs, but just shakes
the screen and makes you relogin again.  I can circumvent that with a
telinit 3 and restart via 'startx', which I actually prefer doing.

The other issue is kstars - this one app is problematic; in some
releases it doesn't work at all, and in others it works very well. In
(at least) the 3.1 from cooker, it starts up but takes *far* too many
CPU cycles for itself. On my 1000mhz, most everything else is
unuseable if it is loaded, and simple commands within kstars take a
while before updating the screen. It's as if everything is frozen.

Also - anyone yet try atlantik (monopoly) - I've been waiting for a
decent way to play monopoly on linux (seriously) :) but atlantik
doesn't seem to want to do anything, it just sits there.



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Re: [newbie] GLX gears

2003-02-06 Thread s
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 6:17 pm, Sharrea wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:36, s wrote:
  oh, I love this game!  :D

 You would!  I can still remember what your lilo.conf looks (looked)
 like!

Oh man, it's worse now cuz I added a few more cooker partitions and 
each one of them have two or three kernels.  It's a ole big mess.  
Lilo does the job tho!  :D



  AMD xp2100+, 512mb ddr ram, Geforce4 ti4400 with nvidia's 4191
  drivers in kde on cooker.

 OK, I'm a just a tad jealous  ; )

Shoot, I think ole DarkLord got me beat!  :D  Well, he's running 
smaller res too.  I'm might try mine at that lower res and see what I 
get.  teehee  I'm coming to get you DarkLord - you haven't seen the 
last of me!!!

-s



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RE: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
Personally if i want a new kernel i DL the source and build it from
www.kernel.org  This is me personally.  Take it as you wish.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charlie
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?


 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 01:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Hello list.
 
  I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an
  UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's
  strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new
  kernel.
 
  Opinions ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.
  ===
  Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0
  Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org
  Source :  my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer.
  ===

 Hello Kaj;

 I can't remember if urpmi was written to update kernels or
 install them, even
 though the /etc/urpmi/skip.list has the kernel written into it.
 Among other
 things.

 I do know that I always play safe; download the kernel and the
 kernel source
 rpms then in a super user terminal I do without the :
 rpm -ivh kernel-version.rpm instead of the upgrade Uvh, then;
 rpm -ivh kernel-source-version.rpm and;
 /sbin/lilo -v to add the new kernel.

 If something goes kerflooey (a technical term I'm intimately
 familiar with
 g) you'll still have a working kernel to work with.

 Just seems safer that way. But then I hate reinstalls when I
 screw up. That
 happens often too. g

 Regards;
 --
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 Edmonton,AB,Canada
 Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org
 The fact that boys are allowed to exist at all is evidence of a
 remarkable
 Christian forbearance among men.
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RE: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
Yeah this is true.  The ROM of the drive has to support it.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie]
 
 
 At 02:19 PM 2/5/2003 +, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
   MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for 
 Winbloz and I
   do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another 
 machine w/o
   Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
   Just my 2 cents on this issue.
 
 Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is 
 finalized or not.  I
 can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I 
 only know that
 others have found this not to be so.
 
 Anne
 --
 Registered Linux User No.293302
 
 As long as you don't finalize a CD it is readable on most CDR/W cdrom 
 players.  If the technology (CDROM, not the disc) is older, 
 usually it has 
 to be finalized.
 
 Having said that, some newer CDRom players DO read un-finalized 
 discs.  Plextor AFAIK is the better one for this function.
 
 -
 FemmeFatale
 
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 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.
 
 - Source: Dilbert
 
 
 
 


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RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
 Sleep is good...

Just had 11 hours of it, thanks.
Rob


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Re: [newbie] Lost about swap

2003-02-06 Thread David E. Fox

 and running out of swap on a running system is *not* something you want 
 to have happen, ever. It creates quite the headache.

That is quite true. A historical anecdote: a friend of mine and early
linxu adopter (1993ish) had a 386 dx 4 meg RAM system. Back then it
was fairly serviceable - I myself had a working SLS linux install on a 
packard bell 386sx/16 with 4 megs (later upgrading to 8).

At any rate, friend decided not to install a swap partition. Bad move, 
especially on a machine with not much RAM available. And, my friend
was then and still is a rather casual and light user of the system,
mostly doing editing and so forth using emacs. Well, of course, on a
small footprint machine you can barely fit kernel+some
deamons+bash+emacs in RAM. Needless to say, he exceeded his resources
and his machine seemingly locked up. But he didn't reboot. He hit
ctrl-x ctrl-c to quit/save Emacs ---

and guess what --- 45 *minutes* later, he got his shell prompt
back. Yes, that's right. 45 *minutes*! All that time the kernel (which
was likely pre-1.0 then) or more properly, the memory management
system, rummaging through pages panicing trying to find room. 





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RE: [newbie] Argh-Software manager is killing me!

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
Mine worked great after i redid the darn files/directories.  If you want to
search in the archives its all there.
Rob

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Argh-Software manager is killing me!


 you guys are all making me feel bad cause mine works correctly. geez!

 --
 Mark

 If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?
 ---
 Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R)
 Linux User Since 1996
 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2  9.0
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RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
 thats ok... but it sounds like you've been brain-washed into thinking
 graphical interfaces are a bad thing. they're real handy to have around
 when you've got a ton of other things to do and you just need to get
 something config'ed quickly so's you can get that assignment finished
 before it's time to leave for class or something. ;)

I dont think they are bad, just some ways i like to do via CLIits just
me i guess.
Yes i like GUI myself.
Rob



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[newbie] update-problems

2003-02-06 Thread tuija
Hi,

I would like to know how to prevent
system breaking in updating?
Last time when I took updates
on Mdk9.0 it was like 300mb size?
And when installed it caused 
several malfuntions like kde loading
problems, etc.  I have experienced
same problems with rh8.0 too.
I was wondering is there any rules
how to take updates? Like which
components shouldn't update in
same time? Or is there any
maintain commands which
should be run after updating
like depmod -a, updatedb, etc.
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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Jerry Barton
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:39:34 -0600
Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Hello list.
 
  I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an
  UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's
  strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new
  kernel.
 
  Opinions ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.
SNIP

OK I've been following this thread with interest, checking my /etc/urpmi/skip.list and 
/etc/urpmi/inst.list, reading advice by the replies on this thread.  I went to 
MandrakeUpdate and all that showed was the kernel-source.  So am I correct in assuming 
I need to compile it or could it be that the mirror that I am using does not have the 
actual kernel rpm?

TIA
Jerry


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Re: [newbie] - should have been Multisession CDRs

2003-02-06 Thread Len Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:37:32 -0900
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 04 February 2003 02:36 pm, Len Lawrence wrote:
  OK, time to learn how to burn CDs.  40x 80 min CDRs.  I have tried out
  snip snip --
 
 Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can read 
 them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk.  That is the 
 way it works.
 
Thanks for the clarification, and thanks to everybody else for their comments.
And apologies for forgetting the subject line.  Old men do forget things.
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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:


MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz and I
do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another machine w/o
Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.



Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or 
not.  I
can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only 
know that
others have found this not to be so.

Anne





Actually it's a mite more complicated than that.

Audio discs do not have to be fixed in order to play on a good modern
computer
but data cd's do.but an unfixed audio disc will not play on a regular cd
player.

Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed all
over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix the
written
portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more data
files at a later date and fix those and so on. However I have never succeded
with any of the linux writer programmes. EasyV5 and nero can do it easily.

I believe xcdroast can do these things, but as I say I have never
succeded myself.
I know cdrecord can do it, but it is not simple, well, not in my
opinion, other
might feel diferent about it.

John

Generally speaking

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Len Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:12:11 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 11:36 pm, Len Lawrence wrote:
  OK, time to learn how to burn CDs.  40x 80 min CDRs.  I have tried out
  gcombust, gtoaster, and looked at eroaster and settled for GNOME
  toaster.  A clear, friendly interface, apart from the drag-and-drop
  feature for selecting directories.  
 
 I mainly use XCDroast, and could help with general instructions on that if it 
 will help, but I haven't really tried multisession (I usually have to exclude 
 less important bits to get all I want on a disk :) )
 snipped ---
Thanks Anne.  I have configured XCDroast but not tried using it yet.  
Will give it a go.
 Undoubtedly your problem is caused by fixating.  That effectively closes the 
 disk from further writes.  Most non-burner drives have problems reading a 
 non-fixated disk, I believe, though I think it is largely a software problem, 
 as the burner program is the one that handles that.  (Could be off-beam here, 
 though)   If GToaster forces fixation then use something else for 
 multisession.
Thanks for the confirmation.

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Searching 101

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:28 PM 2/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:

 I'll post later today or tommorow.  I'll divide them into categories for
 you boys  girls here on the list.  If the list is interested that is...

 Any yeas or nays?  Or should I just email them offlist?
 -
 FemmeFatale


   On list or pvt email whatever I would like to see these links for 
newbies and would like to pass them around at our local LUG thursday night.


Thanks
Marc

If the links are dead (I'll check them all as best I can) or unreadable pls 
email me or post to the list.  I'm using Mozilla 1.x from Windows 
atm.  Mostly cause I'm going to game after this and i'm lazy... so I didn't 
boot to linux. :)


Links as promised


Mandrake Specific
http://www.trylinuxsd.com/
http://plf.zarb.org/%7Enanardon/urpmiweb.php
http://www.atechsol.net/kde3.html (KDE 3.0 for LM 8.2, somewhat out of date 
but still useful)

Distro Independant
---
http://linuxlinks.propagation.net/Beginners/ (Web site listing links for 
other Newbie websites/self-help sites for Linux) :)
http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/
http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
http://maththinking.com/boat/languageBooksIndex.html (this one may NOT be 
newbie specific but it contains lots of books good for all levels IMO)
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/ (newb/intermediate)
http://www.linuxdot.org/nlm/ (quite up to date info for all Newbies)
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz (Newby/Intermediate 
level.  Hard to say really, use at your own risk?)
http://www.netspace.net.au/~gok/power2bash/ (somewhat spartan text but some 
good links here too)
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/ts-system-freeze.html 
(most useful page for Newbies who fubar their systems)
http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_4.html#SEC36 (fairly plain english type of 
site covers a lot of ground)
http://www.linuxgames.com/ (Gaming How-To's  Some demos for linux)
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue14/bashtip.html (BASH specific 
page.  Linux Gazette has other stuff too though)

Well thats all I have for now.  If I come across more I'll post it when 
possible.  I would have had more but my files got fubared some time ago  I 
lost probably another 20 bookmarks.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] trouble logging in via Mandrake splash screen

2003-02-06 Thread David E. Fox
 Log into a console, type passwd - change your passwd (change it to the same 
 thing you had before if you want, just retype it all in) and then try logging 

Hmm. I sidetracked, and I was able to log into a console. I don't see
how I wouldn't be able to log in via the GUI - it's not like the GUI
uses something other than /etc/passwd. And going through the syslog
suggests that the username is not valid.

At any rate, shutting down to telinit 3 and restarting via startx is
an effective workaround for now.



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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will

2003-02-06 Thread David E. Fox
 matter which machine I'm on in the future (be it a friends with linux on it 
 who's fubared X, or my own) I can edit files  cfgs quickly  painlessly.

Then vi should be worth learning. No matter what system you are going
to work on - as long as it is Unix - vi is almost guaranteed to be
there. If not, it'll fit on a floppy - as long as (of course) the
binary is compatible with the target system. If you happent to be on a
DOS or Windows based system, you might have difficulty, but there are
versions of vi / vim that are runnable on Windows too. There are
certainly other choices available, but vi is about the only real
standard in editors. Back in the old DOS days, most everyone used
something other than edlin.com to edit files, but if you were stuck,
or if you had a friend with a sick system, about all you could
guarantee is that edlin.com was available, or you brought it to the
problem system.

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[newbie] UPDATED my bookmarks for Linux

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
Here are my links in a single email with no attachments. Some i have not
been to for like 2-3years and some i go to everyday. Have fun.
Rob



Boot Disks
The Linux Disk Editor
http://lde.sourceforge.net/
Making Bootable Linux CDs
http://www.geocities.com/potato.geo/bootlinuxcd.html
BBLCD Toolkit
http://www.bablokb.de/bblcd
Timo's Rescue Cd Set - Ver. 0.9
http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
tomsrtbt
http://www.toms.net/rb/
Trinux A Linux Security Toolkit
http://trinux.sourceforge.net




FreeBSD
Bsd.org
http://www.bsd.org
BSDi
http://www.bsdi.com/
Comprehensive Guide to FreeBSD--online book
http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/
D E F C O N 1 . O R G
http://www.defcon1.org/
FreeBSD Cheat Sheets
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages ipfw
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwamp;apropos=0amp;sektion=0am
p;manpath=FreeBSD+4.0-RELEASE%2FPortsamp;format=html
FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages tcpdump
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tcpdumpamp;apropos=0amp;sektion=0
amp;manpath=FreeBSD+4.2-RELEASEamp;format=html
FreeBSD Online Books
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/
SCSI Iomega ZIP drives under FreeBSD
http://www.vmunix.com/mark/FreeBSD/ZIP-FAQ.html
Setting up a DHCP Client on FreeBSD
http://freebsd.simplenet.com/dhcp.html
The FreeBSD 'zine  Home
http://www.freebsdzine.org/
The FreeBSD Diary
http://www.freebsddiary.org/

OpenBSD
OpenBSD Home Page
http://www.openbsd.org/
IPF Mailing List Archive
http://www.false.net/ipfilter/
OpenBSD Packet Filter
http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf.html
IP Filter - TCP-IP Firewall-NAT Software
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/ipfilter/
MUSESS '02  OpenBSD  Secure The System
http://www.openbsd.org/slides/musess_2002/index.html
The OpenBSD Packet Filter HOWTO
http://www.inebriated.demon.nl/pf-howto/html/

DVD-ISO's
How to make your own RedHat 8.0 DVD from the CD ISO images
https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/psyche-list/2002-October/000323.html
DVD ripping and transcoding with Linux
http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/
Desktop Mandrake - DVD  DivX On Linux
http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/xine.htm
Linux Media-DVD Ripping
http://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/
DVD ripping and transcoding with Linux
http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/
DVD Ripping for Linux
http://diablonetwork.net/dvd.html
Welcome to trylinuxSD.com
http://www.trylinuxsd.com/

Kernel Info
The User-mode Linux Kernel Home Page
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
Welcome to KernelHQ
http://www.kernelhq.org/
KernelTrap
http://kerneltrap.org/
developerWorks : Linux : Education : Tutorials - Introduction to User-Mode
Linux
http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/education.nsf/linux-onlinecourse-bytit
le/7E31B64596CDAAFB86256CB7004E9978?openca=dgr-lnxw06UserMode
chkrootkit -- locally checks for signs of a rootkit
http://www.chkrootkit.org/
The Linux Virtual Server Project - Linux Server Cluster
http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/
Ultra Monkey
http://www.ultramonkey.org/2.0.0/
LinuxKernelConf
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ezippel/lc/
Anticipatory Scheduling solves Deceptive Idleness
http://www.cs.rice.edu/%7Essiyer/r/antsched/
Mel: Linux VM Project
http://www.csn.ul.ie/%7Emel/projects/vm/
Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) to IP
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3168.txt
ECN-under-Linux Unofficial Vendor Support Page
http://gtf.org/garzik/ecn/
802.1Q VLAN implementation for Linux
http://www.candelatech.com/%7Egreear/vlan.html
Abe's Linux Encrypted File System Howto
http://207.115.67.41/crypto/
Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO
http://www.ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/
Linux Networking HOWTO
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/index.html
The Linux Kernel HOWTO
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/LDP/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO
http://lartc.org/#download

Linux Links
-= T h e - L i n u x - G l o s s a r y =-
http://glossary.linux-support.net/
Attrition.org
http://www.attrition.org/
FirstLinux - the Linux meta-site
http://www.firstlinux.com/
FixUnix --The Future Of Open Source
http://www.fixunix.com/
FrankenLinux.com - Linux for Newbies and SysAdmins
http://www.frankenlinux.com/index.html
GEEK DASH GIRL DOT COM
http://geek-girl.com/
Jargon File Resources
http://www.tuxedo.org/%7Eesr/jargon/
Learning Linux
http://www.learninglinux.com/
Linux Counter Home Page
http://counter.li.org/
Linux HeadQuarters
http://www.linuxhq.com/
Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site
http://www.linuxlinks.com/
Linux NOW!
http://new.linuxnow.com/
Linux Orbit - Linux on the desktop You bet.
http://www.linuxorbit.com/index.php3
Linux tutorials,free games,books,comics - HardcoreLinux
http://www.hardcorelinux.com/
Linux. An eclectic compendium for Linux Newbies
http://www.xmission.com/%7Ehowardm/
linuxfromscratch.com
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/intro.shtml
Linuxiso.org
http://www.linuxiso.org/redhat.html
Linuxlaboratory.org
http://www.linuxlaboratory.org/
LinuxPrinting.org
http://www.linuxprinting.org/
Maximum Proformance
http://www.maxpro.org/
Redefine the 

RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
 to tell you the truth though, it's been my experience that going
 Linux to
 Linux, which I do 97% of the time on my home Lan, NFS is killer compared
 to the misery Linux-Linux samba brings. IMHO samba only exists to allow
 winders machines to connect to and share files with a Linux machine.

I agree.  Also isnt NFS more secure?  I mean can be more secure if
properly setup.
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Re: [newbie] Compaq WL110 Wireless Lan card Mandrake 9.0

2003-02-06 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 1:15 am, Ian Moran wrote:
 Could someone please offer guidance/pointers as to how to get this card
 working under Mandrake 9.0 ?

 Ian

A quick Google reveals that the Compaq WLAN110 is an OEMed Lucent Orinoco 
card. As such it ought to be recognised OK by Mandrake 9.0

When you boot you should hear some 'beeps' when the pcmcia card is recognised.

Make sure you have the 'wireless-tools' RPM installed and then go through the 
networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre. The wizard should recognise 
your card and install either the wvlan_cs driver, or the orinoco driver (they 
both work) When in the wizard you will be prompted for the wireless 
parameters. The most important ones are
MODE - Managed for use with an Access Point or Ad-Hoc for no access point
ESSIS - set this the same as the other wireless cards in your net.
KEY - Your encryption key. Must be the same as your other cards enter as 
either a series of Hex numbers (aabbccddeeff or aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff ) or as an 
ascii string ( s:ascii_string )

HTH

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[newbie] my bookmarks for Linux, and more

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
I am sending it as an attachementso you can save it.  If you want it another
way I will try to do it before it is asked.
Rob

Title: Bookmarks




Bookmarks
  

   
  
  
  linux stuff
  
 


boot disks

   
  LDE
- The Linux Disk Editor 
  Making Bootable Linux CDs 
  The
BBLCD Toolkit 
  Timo's Rescue Cd Set - Ver. 0.9 
  tomsrtbt
home page 
  Trinux A Linux Security
Toolkit 

 



  FreeBSD
  
 
bsd,org 

BSDi - BSDi
- Powering the Internet 
Comprehensive Guide to FreeBSD--online book  
  
D E F
C O N 1 . O R G 
FreeBSD Cheat Sheets 
FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages ipfw 
   
FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages tcpdump  
  
FreeBSD Online Books 
SCSI Iomega ZIP drives under FreeBSD 
   
Setting up a DHCP Client on FreeBSD  
  
The
FreeBSD 'zine  Home 
The
FreeBSD Diary 
  
   
  
  
  OpenBSD
  
 
 IPF Mailing List Archive 
benzedrine.cx
- OpenBSD Packet Filter 
IP Filter - TCP-IP Firewall-NAT Software 
   
MUSESS '02  OpenBSD  Secure The System   
 
The OpenBSD Packet Filter HOWTO 
  
   

 


DVD-ISO's

   
  How to make your own RedHat
8.0 DVD from the CD ISO images 
  DVD
ripping and transcoding with Linux 
  Desktop Mandrake - DVD 
DivX On Linux 
  Linux
Media-DVD Ripping 
  DVD
ripping and transcoding with Linux 
  DVD
Ripping for Linux 
  Welcome to trylinuxSD.com 


 


HOWTO

   
  HOWTO-upload.configuration.HOWTO 
  Linux
2.4 Advanced Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO 
  Linux Networking HOWTO 
  The Linux Kernel HOWTO 
  Linux Advanced
Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO 
  Beowulf
Installation and Administration HOWTO 
  Abe's Linux Encrypted File System Howto  
  
  Apache
Compile HOWTO (Linux edition) 

 


Kernel info

   
  The
User-mode Linux Kernel Home Page 
  http://www.kernelhq.org/ 

  KernelTrap 
  developerWorks : Linux : Education
: Tutorials - Introduction to User-Mode Linux 
  chkrootkit -- locally checks for signs of a rootkit 

  The Linux Virtual Server Project - Linux Server
Cluster 
  Ultra
Monkey: 
  LinuxKernelConf 

  Anticipatory Scheduling
solves Deceptive Idleness 
  Mel:
Linux VM Project 
  http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3168.txt 

  ECN-under-Linux Unofficial Vendor Support Page 

  802.1Q
VLAN implementation for Linux 

 


linux links

   
  -= T h e - L i n u x - G l o s s a r y =-

  Attrition.org 

  FirstLinux
- the Linux meta-site 
  FixUnix
--The Future Of Open Source 
  FrankenLinux.com - Linux for Newbies and SysAdmins 

  GEEK DASH
GIRL DOT COM 
  Jargon File Resources 
  Learning
Linux 
  Linux Counter
Home Page 
  Linux HeadQuarters 

  Linux
Links - The Linux Portal Site 
  Linux
NOW! 
  Linux Orbit - Linux on the desktop You bet.  
  
  Linux
tutorials,free games,books,comics - HardcoreLinux 
  Linux. An eclectic compendium for Linux Newbies 

  linuxfromscratch.com 
  Linuxiso.org  
  Linuxlaboratory.org 
  LinuxPrinting.org 

  Maximum
Proformance 
  Redefine
the Fine Manual Linux Tips and HowTo's Database 
  Security-Enhanced Linux 

  The Linux Kernel 
  UNIX Tutorial
Absolute Beginner to Linux Expert in 10 Lesson 
  userlocal.com   
A Focal Point For The Online Slackware Comm 
  Welcome
to LinuxSelfhelp.com! 
  YoLinux.com
Help and Information 

 


man pages

   
  CampusCGI
Facility Man Page Access 
  FreeBSD
Hypertext Man 

Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Brian Parish
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 03:37, civileme wrote:
 Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can read 
 them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk.  That is the 
 way it works.
 
 Civileme
 
 
Wow!  This is the first (maybe last) time I have to take issue with
something from Civileme.

I work as a computer guy, which means most of the time is spent
unscambling the various messes W$ generates.  My toolkit is a set of CDs
which get updated on a regular basis.

I use Nero for these because it works reliably and generates CDs that my
client's machines can usually read.  (linux for everything else!)

I regularly burn CD's using the don't finalize option in Nero, use
them in various machines - some quite old - then add another session to
them, use them some more.  I have never found any difficulty in reading
a multisession disk in another CDROM drive, apart from drives that
refuse to read just about anything.

Now audio CDs - that's a different story!

So what gives here?  Am I dreaming?

cheers
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RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update

2003-02-06 Thread Lanman
That seems to be the norm, Rob. A healthy mix of GUI and C/L, that is. I would think 
that most newbie's with a bit of experience under their respective belts would 
probably agree. Once again, it boils down to a matter of choice, and the choices are 
just about limitless. My biggest focus is finding apps and programs that will allow my 
clients to migrate to Linux a.s.a.p., and having user-friendly apps becomes crucial to 
the End-user experience. Of course, once their sysadmins get up to speed, they're 
usually unwilling to use a GUI, and prefer to stick to the C/L, and/or Webmin .

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On 2/5/2003 at 11:42 PM Robert Wideman wrote:

 thats ok... but it sounds like you've been brain-washed into thinking
 graphical interfaces are a bad thing. they're real handy to have around
 when you've got a ton of other things to do and you just need to get
 something config'ed quickly so's you can get that assignment finished
 before it's time to leave for class or something. ;)

I dont think they are bad, just some ways i like to do via CLIits just
me i guess.
Yes i like GUI myself.
Rob



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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 11:57 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
 On Wed, February 5 2003 8:19 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 : On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
 : Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or
 : not. I can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only
 : know that others have found this not to be so.
 :
 : Anne

 I have placed unfinalized CDs and CD-RWs into regular CD-rom drives, and
 about 90% of the time they read them.. IF the drive is less than about 2
 years old.. any older than that, it's still possible, but slim..  Heck.. my
 old 1x mitsumi actually read a CD-RW disc.. kinda.. I managed to mount the
 disc.. and get a directory listing.. but the files were all garbage.

Interesting, Chuck.  As I said, I have no personal experience.  I've never 
really bothered with unfinalized disks, as media are so cheap, but I can see 
that there may be circumstances in which they are desirable.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 12:25 am, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 02:19 PM 2/5/2003 +, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
   MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz and
   I do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another machine
   w/o Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
   Just my 2 cents on this issue.
 
 Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or not.
   I can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only
  know that others have found this not to be so.
 
 Anne
 --
 Registered Linux User No.293302

 As long as you don't finalize a CD it is readable on most CDR/W cdrom
 players.  If the technology (CDROM, not the disc) is older, usually it has
 to be finalized.

 Having said that, some newer CDRom players DO read un-finalized
 discs.  Plextor AFAIK is the better one for this function.

Thanks for the clarification, Femme.  I guess some of us still use older 
readers :)

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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday February 5 2003 04:12 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 09:03 pm, Charles A Edwards
  I just installed it today using rpmdrake on my 9.0
  machine.
 
  Do you update your update_source before you checked for
  updates?
 
  Also the Announce just went out today so it is possible
  that it is not on all the mirrors yet, I use nuplug.
 
 
  Charles

 Thanks Charles. Yes, I run *urpmi.update -a* as a chron job
 every day. You are probably right about the mirror-thing,
 so I'll try again tomorrow (it's a little late over here).

The primary mirrors are often updated on the hour. It'd probly be 
a good idea to run 'urpmi.update -a' just before you try again

 Still though, I don't understand the *update* - term.
 Shouldn't kernels be *installed* ?

 I'll sleep on that one.

I think somebody already mentioned it, but urpmi (which is what 
the GUI pkg managers run) was modified sometime back (8.x ?) because 
so many people were ignoring the warnings NOT to Upgrade, but to 
Install kernels.  To see if your version is so modified, look in 
/etc/urpmi/ and inst.list, as Mandrake installed it, should look like 
this,

# Here you can specify packages that need to be installed instead
# of being upgraded (typically kernel packages).
kernel
kernel-smp
kernel-secure
kernel-enterprise
kernel-linus2.2
kernel-linus2.4
kernel22
kernel22-secure
kernel22-smp
hackkernel

As far sa the term 'update', when you Install a new kernel, 
haven't you updated your system?   update != Upgrade
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RE: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
After thinking about my previous post on DLing from kernel.org and
recompiling everything.
Where is the info about the MDK kernels comparing them to the kernel.org's?
I know they are the same except MDK makes/does everything for you.  Just
wondering.  Would probably clarify a lot on this thread.
Rob

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:25 PM
 To: Newbie
 Subject: [newbie] Update the kernel ?


 Hello list.

 I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an
 UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's
 strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new
 kernel.

 Opinions ?

 Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:26:59 -0700
Jerry Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK I've been following this thread with interest, checking my
 /etc/urpmi/skip.list and /etc/urpmi/inst.list, reading advice by the
 replies on this thread.  I went to MandrakeUpdate and all that showed
 was the kernel-source.  So am I correct in assuming I need to compile
 it or could it be that the mirror that I am using does not have the
 actual kernel rpm?

If you used rpmdrake the kernel will not be listed as a update.
Either select the list all alphabetical  or the addable and you will
find it.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] Connection sharing questions

2003-02-06 Thread Brian Parish
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 08:53, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, I give up.
 
 How do you enable connection sharing from my main comp to the 2 comps on my 
 Lan under v9.0 of Mandrake?
 
 Caveat: with OUT losing all other services and having my networks card changed 
 from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.1.1 without my permission?
 
 I lose the ability to ping, NFS, etc, etc,...
 
 I tried opening the ports up for these in Shorewall but it never would work. I 
 finally had to re-run the network config wizard and setup eth0 again. 
 Disable/stop Shorewall, and all works again. Heck, after the connection 
 wizard got done, I couldn't even access e-mail or web pages
 
 That bytes... :-)
 
 Thanks all.
 
 PS I did this under v8.2 of Mandrake - it was a no-brainer operation - with 
 the same comps/LAN nothing got screwed up. Worked great.

Been there..

My solution was to can Shorewall, D/L gShield, spend about 30 seconds
editing it's config file and put:

192.168.0.0/24

in it's NATS file.

Done!

HTH
Brian



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Re: [newbie] Searching 101

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 1:07 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:08:00 -0700

 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 09:26 PM 2/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Heh anyway, email me on or offlist.  I'll give you some useful sites
to prowl.  And if you feel overwhelmed feel free to email me pvtly.
I'll be happy to help anyway I can luv.
   
Yours sincerely,
Heather/Femme
 
  I'll post later today or tommorow.  I'll divide them into categories for
 
  you boys  girls here on the list.  If the list is interested that is...
 
  Any yeas or nays?  Or should I just email them offlist?

 Sendem to the list, please :)

 Todd
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Re: [newbie] visualizing mem/swap usage

2003-02-06 Thread David E. Fox
 Dang.. I just realized I have over 300megs of disk cache!  This seems like 
 an extraordinary amount of cache...

Yeah, but it's relative. If you have a gig+ of RAM, then it's only 30%
of your RAM. But you weigh that along everything else, your usage of
the system, and it's conceivable that a large amount of RAM would be
devoted to buffers or cache. This is especially true if you have a
large amount of RAM to spare and you're doing something disk intensive
like slocate / find etc. For instance I frequently notice a large
amount of RAM for disk/cache in the morning, after my system does its
nightly disk-intensive processing.







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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 12:36 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 03:37, civileme wrote:
  Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can
  read them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk.  That
  is the way it works.
 
  Civileme

 Wow!  This is the first (maybe last) time I have to take issue with
 something from Civileme.

I just found the only multi-session cd I ever wrote (as an experiment), which 
is unfixated.  It does only have one write on it, so I don't know whether 
that is relevant.  It was written by Nero 5 (can't remember which point 
revision).

I put it into a laptop with winme.  The files are large bitmaps (7.2MB) and 
the read was painfully slow, but they did read.

Civileme's understanding is the same as mine was.  I wonder if that is because 
there was a limitation that has been overcome by later writer software or 
maybe even hardware?  It certainly _was_ true.  I remember a time when 
essential files were required during a rebuild.  They had been written 
multisession by EZcdcreator, and they were unreadable until EZ had been 
reinstalled.  This was a couple of years or so ago.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 8:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
  MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz and
   I do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another machine
   w/o Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
  Just my 2 cents on this issue.
  
  Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or

 not.  I

  can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only

 know that

  others have found this not to be so.
  
  Anne

 Actually it's a mite more complicated than that.

 Audio discs do not have to be fixed in order to play on a good modern
 computer
 but data cd's do.but an unfixed audio disc will not play on a regular cd
 player.

 Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed all
 over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix the
 written
 portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more data
 files at a later date and fix those and so on. 

Are you sure about this, John?  I have always understood that fixating closed 
the disk.

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Re: [newbie] Searching 101

2003-02-06 Thread Lanman
Thirded!

Lanman

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 2/6/2003 at 10:29 AM Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 1:07 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:08:00 -0700

 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 09:26 PM 2/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Heh anyway, email me on or offlist.  I'll give you some useful
sites
to prowl.  And if you feel overwhelmed feel free to email me pvtly.
I'll be happy to help anyway I can luv.
   
Yours sincerely,
Heather/Femme
 
  I'll post later today or tommorow.  I'll divide them into categories
for
 
  you boys  girls here on the list.  If the list is interested that
is...
 
  Any yeas or nays?  Or should I just email them offlist?

 Sendem to the list, please :)

 Todd
Seconded

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[newbie] 9.1 beta 3 and dual processors

2003-02-06 Thread Ross Ferson
Hello!

I have used linux for some time, but this is my first jump into Mandrake.  I
tried beta 3 for KDE 3.1  anyways, i have a dual PIII 1.13 with 512 cache on
each chip.  Mandrake 9.1 b3 is not recognizing the 2nd proc.  Did I miss
something or is this a beta issue?


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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:


On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 8:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz and
 I do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another machine
 w/o Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.

Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or

not.  I

can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only

know that

others have found this not to be so.

Anne

Actually it's a mite more complicated than that.

Audio discs do not have to be fixed in order to play on a good modern
computer
but data cd's do.but an unfixed audio disc will not play on a regular cd
player.

Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed all
over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix the
written
portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more data
files at a later date and fix those and so on. 
   


Are you sure about this, John?  I have always understood that fixating closed 
the disk.

Anne
 

 

Petty sure, as I say I have never got it to fix the data only on a linux 
programme, but
all of the windblows proggies can fix the data only amount ofa  cd and 
leave the
rest of the blank cd open to add more .It's just a question of getting 
the right
option ticked . It goes, (from memory) something like fix data don't fix 
disc before
the final write begins.

I'm sure  that  roast can do it too, and cdrecord, but as I say I cannot 
get it to
work for me. Whenever I have tried it fixes the whole disc and I cannot 
add more.



John


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[newbie] mgetty+send fax configure

2003-02-06 Thread William R. Nash
Hello,
 I'm trying to set up mgetty to work as a answer machine and fax
machine.  I have the following hardware.

Hayes accura external v.90 fax/voice modem
This modem also has integrated voice mail
linux mandrake 9.0 with mgetty install
able to see modem and configure the number of rings to answer via webmin
i have downloaded TkVoice to see if i can get the program to work.

problem i'm having when the phone rings it keep ringing the modem will
not answer till the phone hangs then the modem will answer.

2nd  problem.  I do not have a greeting message and would like to use
just a default recording till i can record a message.
 
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Re: [newbie] 9.1 beta 3 and dual processors

2003-02-06 Thread et
better ask on Cooker for beta stuff, on my dual p3, running 9.0, I have to 
select the smp image in lilo on boot, (but it was the default on install) but 
ain't linux sexy on a dual cpu box (compared to a M$win product)...

On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:44 am, Ross Ferson wrote:
 Hello!

 I have used linux for some time, but this is my first jump into Mandrake. 
 I tried beta 3 for KDE 3.1  anyways, i have a dual PIII 1.13 with 512 cache
 on each chip.  Mandrake 9.1 b3 is not recognizing the 2nd proc.  Did I miss
 something or is this a beta issue?


 Thanks

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Re: [newbie] mgetty+send fax configure

2003-02-06 Thread et
On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:48 am, William R. Nash wrote:
 Hello,
  I'm trying to set up mgetty to work as a answer machine and fax
 machine.  I have the following hardware.

 Hayes accura external v.90 fax/voice modem
 This modem also has integrated voice mail
 linux mandrake 9.0 with mgetty install
 able to see modem and configure the number of rings to answer via webmin
 i have downloaded TkVoice to see if i can get the program to work.

 problem i'm having when the phone rings it keep ringing the modem will
 not answer till the phone hangs then the modem will answer.

 2nd  problem.  I do not have a greeting message and would like to use
 just a default recording till i can record a message.
first off, I know nothing about getting mgetty to work with an external voice 
medem, in fact, I never have had an external voice modem, I have had a few 
internal voice moodems tho... but...
I think the modem init strings (hayes command set) might not be set correctly 
for the modem to answer on so many rings, what are you doing to setup mgetty 
and I guess man mgetty could be your friend? 


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Re: [newbie] 9.1 beta 3 and dual processors

2003-02-06 Thread Ross Ferson
I love it !
- Original Message -
From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 beta 3 and dual processors


better ask on Cooker for beta stuff, on my dual p3, running 9.0, I have to
select the smp image in lilo on boot, (but it was the default on install)
but
ain't linux sexy on a dual cpu box (compared to a M$win product)...

On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:44 am, Ross Ferson wrote:
 Hello!

 I have used linux for some time, but this is my first jump into Mandrake.
 I tried beta 3 for KDE 3.1  anyways, i have a dual PIII 1.13 with 512
cache
 on each chip.  Mandrake 9.1 b3 is not recognizing the 2nd proc.  Did I
miss
 something or is this a beta issue?


 Thanks

 Ross









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Re: [newbie] Searching 101

2003-02-06 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 06 February 2003 08:22 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
 Hope this helps somewhat.
 Rob


Rob:
A very nice list. 22.7KB well spent IMHO.
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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed Claws opening links somewhat OT

2003-02-06 Thread David Robertson
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 07:29, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
I am using sylpheed-claws and I am really happy with it except for 1 small 
problem, if someone sends a link in a email I am unable to click on it and have it 
open a browser. So far I have not been able to find a place to change this in any of 
the sypheed settings. Is anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?
 
Marc
 
 
 __
Under configuration/common preferences/other you'll find a few options.

Your cursor doesn't change when hovering over a link but if you
double-click it will work!

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed Claws opening links somewhat OT

2003-02-06 Thread Anders Lind
 Your cursor doesn't change when hovering over a link but if you
 double-click it will work!

As Netscape seems to be the default handler for that it might 
need to be changed if Netscape is not installed.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 2:49 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 8:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
  MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz
   and I do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another
   machine w/o Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
   Just my 2 cents on this issue.
  
  Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or
 
 not.  I
 
  can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only
 
 know that
 
  others have found this not to be so.
  
  Anne
 
 Actually it's a mite more complicated than that.
 
 Audio discs do not have to be fixed in order to play on a good modern
 computer
 but data cd's do.but an unfixed audio disc will not play on a regular cd
 player.
 
 Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed
  all over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix
  the written
 portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more
  data files at a later date and fix those and so on.
 
 Are you sure about this, John?  I have always understood that fixating
  closed the disk.
 
 Anne

 Petty sure, as I say I have never got it to fix the data only on a linux
 programme, but
 all of the windblows proggies can fix the data only amount ofa  cd and
 leave the
 rest of the blank cd open to add more .It's just a question of getting
 the right
 option ticked . It goes, (from memory) something like fix data don't fix
 disc before
 the final write begins.

Haven't used Nero since I lost my windows in November, so I'm rusty, but I 
remember the 'dont fix disk' setting - I just don't remember anything about 
fixing data.

 I'm sure  that  roast can do it too, and cdrecord, but as I say I cannot
 get it to
 work for me. Whenever I have tried it fixes the whole disc and I cannot
 add more.

Again, I'm fairly sure I've seen the setting, but not used it.  I'll have a 
look at that next week when I have more time.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed Claws opening links somewhat OT

2003-02-06 Thread Jerry Barton
On 06 Feb 2003 15:25:14 +
David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 07:29, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
 I am using sylpheed-claws and I am really happy with it except for 1 small 
problem, if someone sends a link in a email I am unable to click on it and have it 
open a browser. So far I have not been able to find a place to change this in any of 
the sypheed settings. Is anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?
  
 Marc
  
  
  __
 Under configuration/common preferences/other you'll find a few options.
 
 Your cursor doesn't change when hovering over a link but if you
 double-click it will work!
 
 David
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I found that the default setting on mine (which was something like mozilla -remote 
'openURL(%s,new window)' ) didn't work but if i just changed it to mozilla %s it did.  
and yes, the cursor doesn't change but if you dbl click it will open.

Jerry


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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Jerry Barton
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:52:39 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If you used rpmdrake the kernel will not be listed as a update.
 Either select the list all alphabetical  or the addable and you will
 find it.
 
 
 Charles
 
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Re: [newbie] Connection sharing questions

2003-02-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 06 February 2003 08:14 am, Lanman wrote:

 At least that way, you're up and running, with a fall-back firewall and
 masquerading config. That way you can take the time to learn Shorewall, and
 test it before dropping Bastille. If you don't have it, write me off-list
 and I'll forward you the 2 files you'll need. Then you can manually edit
 the config file, and be up and running in a couple of minutes.

 Lanman

Thanks for the offer Lanman! I think I'll try Gshield for now, but if I can't 
come to grips with it, I'll keep what you said in mind. I did use Bastille 
under the 8.x distro's, but I never saved anything from them...

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RE: [newbie] Searching 101

2003-02-06 Thread cervixcouch
Golly!!!


On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:22:49 -0600, Robert Wideman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hope this helps somewhat.
 Rob
 
 
 Boot Disks
 The Linux Disk Editor
 http://lde.sourceforge.net/
 Making Bootable Linux CDs
 http://www.geocities.com/potato.geo/bootlinuxcd.html
 BBLCD Toolkit
 http://www.bablokb.de/bblcd
 Timo's Rescue Cd Set - Ver. 0.9
 http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
 tomsrtbt
 http://www.toms.net/rb/
 Trinux A Linux Security Toolkit
 http://trinux.sourceforge.net
 
 
 
 
 FreeBSD
 Bsd.org
 http://www.bsd.org
 BSDi
 http://www.bsdi.com/
 Comprehensive Guide to FreeBSD--online book
 http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/
 D E F C O N 1 . O R G
 http://www.defcon1.org/
 FreeBSD Cheat Sheets
 http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
 FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages ipfw
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwamp;apropos=0amp;sektion=0am
 p;manpath=FreeBSD+4.0-RELEASE%2FPortsamp;format=html
 FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages tcpdump
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tcpdumpamp;apropos=0amp;sektion=0
 amp;manpath=FreeBSD+4.2-RELEASEamp;format=html
 FreeBSD Online Books
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/
 SCSI Iomega ZIP drives under FreeBSD
 http://www.vmunix.com/mark/FreeBSD/ZIP-FAQ.html
 Setting up a DHCP Client on FreeBSD
 http://freebsd.simplenet.com/dhcp.html
 The FreeBSD 'zine  Home
 http://www.freebsdzine.org/
 The FreeBSD Diary
 http://www.freebsddiary.org/
 
 OpenBSD
 OpenBSD Home Page
 http://www.openbsd.org/
 IPF Mailing List Archive
 http://www.false.net/ipfilter/
 OpenBSD Packet Filter
 http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf.html
 IP Filter - TCP-IP Firewall-NAT Software
 http://coombs.anu.edu.au/ipfilter/
 MUSESS '02  OpenBSD  Secure The System
 http://www.openbsd.org/slides/musess_2002/index.html
 The OpenBSD Packet Filter HOWTO
 http://www.inebriated.demon.nl/pf-howto/html/
 
 DVD-ISO's
 How to make your own RedHat 8.0 DVD from the CD ISO images
 https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/psyche-list/2002-October/000323.html
 DVD ripping and transcoding with Linux
 http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/
 Desktop Mandrake - DVD  DivX On Linux
 http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/xine.htm
 Linux Media-DVD Ripping
 http://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/
 DVD ripping and transcoding with Linux
 http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/
 DVD Ripping for Linux
 http://diablonetwork.net/dvd.html
 Welcome to trylinuxSD.com
 http://www.trylinuxsd.com/
 
 Kernel Info
 The User-mode Linux Kernel Home Page
 http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
 Welcome to KernelHQ
 http://www.kernelhq.org/
 KernelTrap
 http://kerneltrap.org/
 developerWorks : Linux : Education : Tutorials - Introduction to
 User-Mode
 Linux
 http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/education.nsf/linux-onlinecourse-bytit
 le/7E31B64596CDAAFB86256CB7004E9978?openca=dgr-lnxw06UserMode
 chkrootkit -- locally checks for signs of a rootkit
 http://www.chkrootkit.org/
 The Linux Virtual Server Project - Linux Server Cluster
 http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/
 Ultra Monkey
 http://www.ultramonkey.org/2.0.0/
 LinuxKernelConf
 http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ezippel/lc/
 Anticipatory Scheduling solves Deceptive Idleness
 http://www.cs.rice.edu/%7Essiyer/r/antsched/
 Mel: Linux VM Project
 http://www.csn.ul.ie/%7Emel/projects/vm/
 Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) to IP
 http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3168.txt
 ECN-under-Linux Unofficial Vendor Support Page
 http://gtf.org/garzik/ecn/
 802.1Q VLAN implementation for Linux
 http://www.candelatech.com/%7Egreear/vlan.html
 Abe's Linux Encrypted File System Howto
 http://207.115.67.41/crypto/
 Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO
 http://www.ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/
 Linux Networking HOWTO
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/index.html
 The Linux Kernel HOWTO
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/LDP/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
 Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control HOWTO
 http://lartc.org/#download
 
 Linux Links
 -= T h e - L i n u x - G l o s s a r y =-
 http://glossary.linux-support.net/
 Attrition.org
 http://www.attrition.org/
 FirstLinux - the Linux meta-site
 http://www.firstlinux.com/
 FixUnix --The Future Of Open Source
 http://www.fixunix.com/
 FrankenLinux.com - Linux for Newbies and SysAdmins
 http://www.frankenlinux.com/index.html
 GEEK DASH GIRL DOT COM
 http://geek-girl.com/
 Jargon File Resources
 http://www.tuxedo.org/%7Eesr/jargon/
 Learning Linux
 http://www.learninglinux.com/
 Linux Counter Home Page
 http://counter.li.org/
 Linux HeadQuarters
 http://www.linuxhq.com/
 Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site
 http://www.linuxlinks.com/
 Linux NOW!
 http://new.linuxnow.com/
 Linux Orbit - Linux on the desktop You bet.
 http://www.linuxorbit.com/index.php3
 Linux tutorials,free games,books,comics - HardcoreLinux
 http://www.hardcorelinux.com/
 Linux. An eclectic compendium for Linux Newbies
 http://www.xmission.com/%7Ehowardm/
 linuxfromscratch.com
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/intro.shtml
 Linuxiso.org
 http://www.linuxiso.org/redhat.html
 Linuxlaboratory.org
 

[newbie] refreshing rpm database with installed packages.. DB is currently missing all installed packages.

2003-02-06 Thread Franki
Hi guys,

I still have a web/MySQL server that has practically nothing in the rpm
database... even though there are a ton of packages..

rpm -qa |grep kernel

gives no response...


Is there a way to get the rpm db populated with the installed packages so
that MandrakeUpdate will register some packages??


Any help, thoughts, flames etc



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RE: [newbie] Compaq WL110 Wireless Lan card Mandrake 9.0

2003-02-06 Thread Ian Moran
Thanks Derek ! Yes the card appears to have been recognised as the
machine beeps twice during boot and the power light at least comes on in
the card.

The driver loaded is wvlan_cs and I have set the parameters you
indicate, these are written to /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-eth0

I'll have another play, thanks again !

Ian

  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 06 February 2003 11:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 1:15 am, Ian Moran wrote:
  Could someone please offer guidance/pointers as to how to get this 
  card working under Mandrake 9.0 ?
 
  Ian
 
 A quick Google reveals that the Compaq WLAN110 is an OEMed 
 Lucent Orinoco card. As such it ought to be recognised OK by 
 Mandrake 9.0
 
 When you boot you should hear some 'beeps' when the pcmcia 
 card is recognised.
 
 Make sure you have the 'wireless-tools' RPM installed and 
 then go through the networking wizard in Mandrake Control 
 Centre. The wizard should recognise your card and install 
 either the wvlan_cs driver, or the orinoco driver (they both 
 work) When in the wizard you will be prompted for the 
 wireless parameters. The most important ones are MODE - 
 Managed for use with an Access Point or Ad-Hoc for no access 
 point ESSIS - set this the same as the other wireless cards 
 in your net.
 KEY - Your encryption key. Must be the same as your other 
 cards enter as either a series of Hex numbers (aabbccddeeff 
 or aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff ) or as an ascii string ( s:ascii_string )
 
 HTH
 
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[newbie] Adding Another Drive

2003-02-06 Thread Paul Dimitriu
I just purchased a new hard drive for my Linux
machine.  How do I format it / get Linux to recognize it?

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[newbie] Shorthand

2003-02-06 Thread Douglas B.
Being a newbie AND thick, I get mystified by quite a lot of the
shorthand used in Newbie e-mails. Is there a glossary somewhere that
will tell me the meaning of LOL, BTW, FUD.. ?

Thanks,



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RE: [newbie] Compaq WL110 Wireless Lan card Mandrake 9.0

2003-02-06 Thread Ian Moran
Brilliant, it works, was missing the s:string in the gui, cheers !

Ian

  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Moran 
 Sent: 06 February 2003 17:11
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks Derek ! Yes the card appears to have been recognised 
 as the machine beeps twice during boot and the power light at 
 least comes on in the card.
 
 The driver loaded is wvlan_cs and I have set the parameters 
 you indicate, these are written to 
 /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-eth0
 
 I'll have another play, thanks again !
 
 Ian
 
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 06 February 2003 11:20
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 1:15 am, Ian Moran wrote:
   Could someone please offer guidance/pointers as to how to 
 get this 
   card working under Mandrake 9.0 ?
  
   Ian
  
  A quick Google reveals that the Compaq WLAN110 is an OEMed Lucent 
  Orinoco card. As such it ought to be recognised OK by Mandrake 9.0
  
  When you boot you should hear some 'beeps' when the pcmcia card is 
  recognised.
  
  Make sure you have the 'wireless-tools' RPM installed and then go 
  through the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre. 
 The wizard 
  should recognise your card and install either the wvlan_cs 
 driver, or 
  the orinoco driver (they both
  work) When in the wizard you will be prompted for the wireless 
  parameters. The most important ones are MODE - Managed for 
 use with an 
  Access Point or Ad-Hoc for no access point ESSIS - set this 
 the same 
  as the other wireless cards in your net.
  KEY - Your encryption key. Must be the same as your other 
 cards enter 
  as either a series of Hex numbers (aabbccddeeff or 
 aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff ) 
  or as an ascii string ( s:ascii_string )
  
  HTH
  
  derek
  
  
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Re: [newbie] update-problems

2003-02-06 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:41 pm, tuija wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to know how to prevent
 system breaking in updating?
 Last time when I took updates
 on Mdk9.0 it was like 300mb size?
 And when installed it caused
 several malfuntions like kde loading
 problems, etc.  I have experienced
 same problems with rh8.0 too.
 I was wondering is there any rules
 how to take updates? Like which
 components shouldn't update in
 same time? Or is there any
 maintain commands which
 should be run after updating
 like depmod -a, updatedb, etc.

well depmod -a and updatedb are always good ideas after extensive updating, 
and rpm --rebuilddb, too, but the most critical thing is ALWAYS INSTALL the 
kernel, never update it.

updates are extensively tested by Vincent Danen, by his security team, and by 
QA before they are released  We even have dodges for an rpm whose %postun 
stanza removes links, to reestablish them afterward in the case of update.

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Re: [newbie] Adding Another Drive

2003-02-06 Thread Paul
In reply to Paul's mail, d.d. Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:16:54 -0800 (PST):

I just purchased a new hard drive for my Linux
machine.  How do I format it / get Linux to recognize it?

First run fdisk (as root gives best results) like

fdisk /dev/hdb (this assumes the first HD is hda).
From there you can follow the prompts in fdisk.

If I recall correctly, there is no need to format the disk after that (but I
will bow to people who know better.)

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Shorthand

2003-02-06 Thread Charlie
On Thursday 06 February 2003 10:32 am, Douglas B. wrote:
 Being a newbie AND thick, I get mystified by quite a lot of the
 shorthand used in Newbie e-mails. Is there a glossary somewhere that
 will tell me the meaning of LOL, (laughing out loud) BTW, (see below)FUD 
(fear uncertainty and doubt, or if it comes out of Microsoft's PR {public 
rape} advertising empire: freaking useless drivel).. ?

 Thanks,

Here Douglas, have fun!

http://www.netlingo.com/inframes.cfm

Scroll down the list on the left side and click away.

I like this site better for a lot of reasons. Mostly because you can find so 
many obscure answers there maybe.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definitionsCategory/0,289915,sid9_tax1671,00.html

Knock yourself out. g That's a grin BTW. (by the way)

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Re: [newbie] Shorthand

2003-02-06 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday February 6 2003 11:32 am, Douglas B. wrote:
 Being a newbie AND thick, I get mystified by quite a lot of the
 shorthand used in Newbie e-mails. Is there a glossary somewhere
 that will tell me the meaning of LOL, BTW, FUD.. ?

 Thanks,

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=email+acronymnsbtnG=Google+Search

 In case your email reader truncates that, Google 'email acronymns'
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Re: [newbie] update-problems

2003-02-06 Thread tuija
Viestissä Torstai 6. Helmikuuta 2003 19:43, civileme kirjoitti:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:41 pm, tuija wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was wondering is there any rules
  how to take updates? Like which
  components shouldn't update in
  same time? Or is there any
  maintain commands which
  should be run after updating
  like depmod -a, updatedb, etc.

 well depmod -a and updatedb are always good ideas after extensive updating,
 and rpm --rebuilddb, too, but the most critical thing is ALWAYS INSTALL the
 kernel, never update it.

 updates are extensively tested by Vincent Danen, by his security team, and
 by QA before they are released  We even have dodges for an rpm whose
 %postun stanza removes links, to reestablish them afterward in the case of
 update.

Thanks this # rpm --rebuilddb seems to help little bit :-)
I don't know what it did but at least it takes quite a while to run it!

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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will

2003-02-06 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 08:13 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
  matter which machine I'm on in the future (be it a friends with linux on
  it who's fubared X, or my own) I can edit files  cfgs quickly 
  painlessly.

 Then vi should be worth learning. No matter what system you are going
 to work on - as long as it is Unix - vi is almost guaranteed to be
 there. If not, it'll fit on a floppy - as long as (of course) the
 binary is compatible with the target system. If you happent to be on a
 DOS or Windows based system, you might have difficulty, but there are
 versions of vi / vim that are runnable on Windows too. There are
 certainly other choices available, but vi is about the only real
 standard in editors. Back in the old DOS days, most everyone used
 something other than edlin.com to edit files, but if you were stuck,
 or if you had a friend with a sick system, about all you could
 guarantee is that edlin.com was available, or you brought it to the
 problem system.

  FemmeFatale


Hmmm, e3 will fit on a floppy including all its source  and will run on 
embedded ARM-processor based systems as well as linux, FreeBSD and UNIX.  The 
version written in C uses only the Wordstar-compliant key bindings, and so 
also with the 16-bit systems supported (e.g. DOS), but the linux version and 
ARM version has keybindings matching

vi  e3vi
emacs   e3em
pico/nano   e3pi
wordstare3 or e3ws
Nedit   e3ne

I have it on my system and also on floppy (DOS compatible).  It takes up very 
little space, even with source, and runs from a 12K file on my system.

It is not likely to be installed, but that is a relatively quick matter to 
fix.  What it took for 9.0 was copying its binaries to /usr/bin (doesn't 
depend on any external libs)  It even has an Undo.

Now the one caution is that for supporting regular expressions it pipes 
through sed, so knowledge of sed is necessary to support regular expression 
manipulations.

I am not necessarily recommending it, though I do think the authors have done 
an excellent job with that tiny editor.  I just wanted to point out that the 
argument everyone is using it, so you better learn/use it could be applied 
to many, many situations, as in management's choosing an operating system, 
desktop, and office package for a large company without necessarily yielding 
the most compatible or technically best choices.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread civileme
On Thursday 06 February 2003 03:36 am, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 03:37, civileme wrote:
  Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can
  read them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk.  That
  is the way it works.
 
  Civileme

 Wow!  This is the first (maybe last) time I have to take issue with
 something from Civileme.

 I work as a computer guy, which means most of the time is spent
 unscambling the various messes W$ generates.  My toolkit is a set of CDs
 which get updated on a regular basis.

 I use Nero for these because it works reliably and generates CDs that my
 client's machines can usually read.  (linux for everything else!)

 I regularly burn CD's using the don't finalize option in Nero, use
 them in various machines - some quite old - then add another session to
 them, use them some more.  I have never found any difficulty in reading
 a multisession disk in another CDROM drive, apart from drives that
 refuse to read just about anything.

 Now audio CDs - that's a different story!

 So what gives here?  Am I dreaming?

 cheers
 Brian


Interesting, Brian.  I got that off a Nero instruction manual a while back.  
That was all they would guarantee.  I am happy to hear the situation is 
somewhat improved.

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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 08:47 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
 After thinking about my previous post on DLing from kernel.org and
 recompiling everything.
 Where is the info about the MDK kernels comparing them to the kernel.org's?
 I know they are the same except MDK makes/does everything for you.  Just
 wondering.  Would probably clarify a lot on this thread.
 Rob

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:25 PM
  To: Newbie
  Subject: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
 
 
  Hello list.
 
  I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an
  UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's
  strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new
  kernel.
 
  Opinions ?
 
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The same?

Ummm, well the kernel is rather highly patched with new features unless you 
grab kernel-linus.  Supermount is there, and the stubs for lm_sensors, and 
quite a few things that might not be in the kernel.org package.  It is not as 
extreme as when 7.2 was out and the Mandrake kernel supported udma3 and udma4 
and udma5 while the kernel-linus did not.  Gee, even Reiserfs required kernel 
patches.

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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored

2003-02-06 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 11:32, FemmeFatale wrote:

 *giggles* Mike:  I'd love to say theres no flames cause I put my foot down 
 in the subject line.  I can't say that though cause this list really is 
 civil most days.
 
 And the ppl are great too! :)
 -
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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored

2003-02-06 Thread Anders Lind
 
 ...and HOW can you say that this list is civil? We have Canucks in here,
 that isn't civil...(g)

Heyas a halfcanuck I take offense to that ;o) *grins*

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[newbie] Need good Message Log filter program recommendation

2003-02-06 Thread T E
Hi all,

I have a log server (some logs come from an MNF box)
that I'm trying to build.  Is there a decent program
that will filter these logs?  I've had the box up only
a few days and already the message log file close to a
MB.  Perhaps this message filter program could alert
the sys admin of suspicious activity and provide a web
interface too?  There are log entries from SNORT as
well... Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:


On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 2:49 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Anne Wilson wrote:
   

On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 8:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Anne Wilson wrote:
   

On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
 

MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing.  I use Nero for Winbloz
and I do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another
machine w/o Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
   

Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is finalized or
 

not.  I

   

can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I only
 

know that

   

others have found this not to be so.

Anne
 

Actually it's a mite more complicated than that.

Audio discs do not have to be fixed in order to play on a good modern
computer
but data cd's do.but an unfixed audio disc will not play on a regular cd
player.

Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed
all over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix
the written
portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more
data files at a later date and fix those and so on.
   

Are you sure about this, John?  I have always understood that fixating
closed the disk.

Anne
 

Petty sure, as I say I have never got it to fix the data only on a linux
programme, but
all of the windblows proggies can fix the data only amount ofa  cd and
leave the
rest of the blank cd open to add more .It's just a question of getting
the right
option ticked . It goes, (from memory) something like fix data don't fix
disc before
the final write begins.

   

Haven't used Nero since I lost my windows in November, so I'm rusty, but I 
remember the 'dont fix disk' setting - I just don't remember anything about 
fixing data.

 

I'm sure  that  roast can do it too, and cdrecord, but as I say I cannot
get it to
work for me. Whenever I have tried it fixes the whole disc and I cannot
add more.
   


Again, I'm fairly sure I've seen the setting, but not used it.  I'll have a 
look at that next week when I have more time.

Anne
 


 

I've just taken a look at EZCD V5 and it says ,
Finalize Session, don't finalize CD,
I guess youcan read that both ways,but
to my mind, and in accordance with what it
actually does, it fixes the data tracks, and leaves
the unwritten part of the cd open for more writes.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed Claws opening links somewhat OT

2003-02-06 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On 06 Feb 2003 15:25:14 +
David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 07:29, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
 I am using sylpheed-claws and I am really happy with it except for 1 small 
problem, if someone sends a link in a email I am unable to click on it and have it 
open a browser. So far I have not been able to find a place to change this in any of 
the sypheed settings. Is anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?
  
 Marc
  
  
  __
 Under configuration/common preferences/other you'll find a few options.
 
 Your cursor doesn't change when hovering over a link but if you
 double-click it will work!
 
 David

   No double clicking a link does not do a thing.
   
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RE: [newbie] console/ascii games?

2003-02-06 Thread T E
Hi!

Here's a couple:

OVERKILL (LOL)
http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~brain/0verkill/

QII !

http://www.jfedor.org/aaquake2/

For more, search for ascii games on freshmeat.net

Enjoy, and let us know how it goes :)




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Subject: [newbie] console/ascii games?

Hi,

Can anyone point me to some good console/ascii games?
 Once, I saw a
really hilarious 'wolfstein-like' with all the
graphics in ascii and I
thought that it was something really neat in the age
of X and 3D
acceleration.

Also - do you know of neat ascii-art utilites?

Thanks,

Andrei





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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Thanks Charlie, Dennis, Tom and Civileme !

At least some sleep made me good. This 
update/upgrade/install confusion seems a little bit less 
confusing today.

I found out to do it by hand ( at least I think I did). 
Funny thing is the *automatic* Mandrake Update only gave 
me one option this morning : to update slocate (which I 
did, of course). But when you go to the Mandrake Secure 
Site, you'll notice that slocate was added AFTER the 
kernel, so it seems the MDK-update just skips the 
kernel-patches. Maybe for a good reason.

Anyway, my box still runs as a *greased lightning* as we 
say around here. - thanks to you !

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RE: [newbie] Adding Another Drive

2003-02-06 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Adding Another Drive







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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Adding Another Drive



I just purchased a new hard drive for my Linux
machine. How do I format it / get Linux to recognize it?


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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Charlie
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:21 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Thanks Charlie, Dennis, Tom and Civileme !

 At least some sleep made me good. This
 update/upgrade/install confusion seems a little bit less
 confusing today.

 I found out to do it by hand ( at least I think I did).
 Funny thing is the *automatic* Mandrake Update only gave
 me one option this morning : to update slocate (which I
 did, of course). But when you go to the Mandrake Secure
 Site, you'll notice that slocate was added AFTER the
 kernel, so it seems the MDK-update just skips the
 kernel-patches. Maybe for a good reason.

 Anyway, my box still runs as a *greased lightning* as we
 say around here. - thanks to you !

 Kaj Haulrich.
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Ya just gotta love a company; and a community, that can build things this good 
while the Chapter 11ish hounds are attempting to remove their keister. I do 
anyway. g

Thanks for including me in the 'thanks' Kaj. My help is always minimal, 
especially compared to the others you named. It's an honour to be included 
in the same breath (in the same message? bg) with such luminaries.

All the best.
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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread et
I noticed in my book from EZ cd Creator 5 Platinum, it says a bunch about udf 
v1.5 and also multiread CDroms, it mentions that it installs a UDFv1.5 
reader and unless the computer has this reader it can not read multiread 
CDroms.

On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:30 pm, civileme wrote:
 On Thursday 06 February 2003 03:36 am, Brian Parish wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 03:37, civileme wrote:
   Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can
   read them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk. 
   That is the way it works.
  
   Civileme
 
  Wow!  This is the first (maybe last) time I have to take issue with
  something from Civileme.
 
  I work as a computer guy, which means most of the time is spent
  unscambling the various messes W$ generates.  My toolkit is a set of CDs
  which get updated on a regular basis.
 
  I use Nero for these because it works reliably and generates CDs that my
  client's machines can usually read.  (linux for everything else!)
 
  I regularly burn CD's using the don't finalize option in Nero, use
  them in various machines - some quite old - then add another session to
  them, use them some more.  I have never found any difficulty in reading
  a multisession disk in another CDROM drive, apart from drives that
  refuse to read just about anything.
 
  Now audio CDs - that's a different story!
 
  So what gives here?  Am I dreaming?
 
  cheers
  Brian

 Interesting, Brian.  I got that off a Nero instruction manual a while back.
 That was all they would guarantee.  I am happy to hear the situation is
 somewhat improved.

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Re: [newbie] Shorthand

2003-02-06 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:32:43PM +, Douglas B. wrote:
 Being a newbie AND thick, I get mystified by quite a lot of the
 shorthand used in Newbie e-mails. Is there a glossary somewhere that
 will tell me the meaning of LOL, BTW, FUD.. ?
 
 Thanks,

It's currently down for maintenance, but try The Acronym Database:
http://www.ucc.ie/acronyms/

Set up a custom search in Mozilla and you'll never be at a loss!

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Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?

2003-02-06 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 06 February 2003 08:47 pm, Charlie wrote:

snip
 Ya just gotta love a company; and a community, that can
 build things this good while the Chapter 11ish hounds
 are attempting to remove their keister. I do anyway. g
/snip

So do I Charlie. Let us hope for the best of Mandrake.
Or even better : throw a little dough in their direction.

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[newbie] Installation boot Kernel hang

2003-02-06 Thread Simon Hosking
Hi,
I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on a Toshiba Satellite 2430 laptop
(P4 2.4, 256MB, NVidia 4GO 420).
Using the install guidelines, I've tried to install booting from CD and
boot floppy (using cdrom.img). In each case, the graphical installation
screen gives the option of pressing enter for a graphical install, or
other options such as text install, expert etc. However, no matter which
of these I use, the install hangs almost immediately after pressing
ENTER.
In text mode, the screen output is:

Loading alt0...
Loading alt0/all.rgz...
Ready...
Uncompressing Linux ... OK, booting the Kernel.

Here is where the system hangs (no screen output or CPU activity) and i
end up having to shut down.

Has anyone else had this problem or know of a fix. Could be a SETUP BIOS
problem?

thanks,
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[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on Intel Hardware

2003-02-06 Thread Brian Smith








Hello, I would like to put Mandrake 9.0 on a white
box that I have at home. Will Mandrake 9.0 run on Intel hardware?
Would this be the i586 designation, or is there another distribution that I
should be downloading?



Thanks for your help,

Brian












Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on Intel Hardware

2003-02-06 Thread Anthony Abby
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 16:35, Brian Smith wrote:
 Hello, I would like to put Mandrake 9.0 on a 'white box' that I have at
 home.  Will Mandrake 9.0 run on Intel hardware?  Would this be the i586
 designation, or is there another distribution that I should be
 downloading?

Yup, it sure will, and yes your designation would be i586.


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on Intel Hardware

2003-02-06 Thread Brad Grissom
Should run just fine!!

~~Brad


On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:35 pm, you wrote:
 Hello, I would like to put Mandrake 9.0 on a 'white box' that I have at
 home.  Will Mandrake 9.0 run on Intel hardware?  Would this be the i586
 designation, or is there another distribution that I should be
 downloading?



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Re: [newbie] Installation boot Kernel hang

2003-02-06 Thread walt
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 16:21, Simon Hosking wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on a Toshiba Satellite 2430 laptop
 (P4 2.4, 256MB, NVidia 4GO 420).
 Using the install guidelines, I've tried to install booting from CD and
 boot floppy (using cdrom.img). In each case, the graphical installation
 screen gives the option of pressing enter for a graphical install, or
 other options such as text install, expert etc. However, no matter which
 of these I use, the install hangs almost immediately after pressing
 ENTER.
 In text mode, the screen output is:
 
 Loading alt0...
 Loading alt0/all.rgz...
 Ready...
 Uncompressing Linux ... OK, booting the Kernel.
 
 Here is where the system hangs (no screen output or CPU activity) and i
 end up having to shut down.
 
 Has anyone else had this problem or know of a fix. Could be a SETUP BIOS
 problem?
 
 thanks,
 Simon
 
 
 __
try an alternate kernel...when you boot to the CD, hit F2 instead of enter and type 
alt2 or which ever kernel you want to use..I have to use alt2 for my system

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Re: [newbie] Installation boot Kernel hang

2003-02-06 Thread Brad Grissom
I had a similar issue on a machine.

It turned out to be my CD's.  I tried new, freshly burned CDs and it worked 
fine.

~~Brad

On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:21 pm, you wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on a Toshiba Satellite 2430 laptop
 (P4 2.4, 256MB, NVidia 4GO 420).
 Using the install guidelines, I've tried to install booting from CD and
 boot floppy (using cdrom.img). In each case, the graphical installation
 screen gives the option of pressing enter for a graphical install, or
 other options such as text install, expert etc. However, no matter which
 of these I use, the install hangs almost immediately after pressing
 ENTER.
 In text mode, the screen output is:

 Loading alt0...
 Loading alt0/all.rgz...
 Ready...
 Uncompressing Linux ... OK, booting the Kernel.

 Here is where the system hangs (no screen output or CPU activity) and i
 end up having to shut down.

 Has anyone else had this problem or know of a fix. Could be a SETUP BIOS
 problem?

 thanks,
 Simon


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Re: [newbie] Installation boot Kernel hang

2003-02-06 Thread Simon Hosking


walt wrote:
__
 try an alternate kernel...when you boot to the CD, hit F2 instead of enter and type 
alt2 or which ever kernel you want to use..I have to use alt2 for my system
 
 Walt

sorry, not very familiar with alternative kernels. what are the
implications of using different kernels (e.g., alt2), and are there
differences in kernel performance?


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[newbie] OT(?) Mutt Pine email clients

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale


Hm... went to see both Pines  Mutts web sites.  Wondered ppl's opinions on 
both  which is more newbie friendly.

Basically I want to learn either one (whichever is easier for now) just so 
that again I can use an email client on any system anywhere to retrieve 
mail.  Plus I'm curious to see how a text based client handles things.  :)

Ya theres a trend here... its called Learn things on the CLI  bang your 
head against a wall for a while till you know this stuff cold.  And you can 
do this anywhere/anytime on any system. :)

Heh same question in the vein of the emacs/vi post.  Sorry if ppl feel like 
i'm wasting bandwith but I have done some research on this  I am not 
entirely clear on which one would suit better to learn on.  Besides, 
learning is fun!  Or so I'm told... :D

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:32 AM 2/6/2003 +, you wrote:



 As long as you don't finalize a CD it is readable on most CDR/W cdrom
 players.  If the technology (CDROM, not the disc) is older, usually it has
 to be finalized.

 Having said that, some newer CDRom players DO read un-finalized
 discs.  Plextor AFAIK is the better one for this function.

Thanks for the clarification, Femme.  I guess some of us still use older
readers :)

Anne
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Heh I have 2 cdrom drives in this comp.  One is an 4-5 year old panasonic. 
The newer is a Plextor 40/12/40a drive.  Its the burner.  Works fine.  I 
knew the answer from testing I had done between both drives.

Also my g/f has an older HP 82xx drive  some POS Acer drive.  Found out 
neither of them likes un-finalized cd's either.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:28 AM 2/6/2003 +, you wrote:

snip

Interesting, Chuck.  As I said, I have no personal experience.  I've never
really bothered with unfinalized disks, as media are so cheap, but I can see
that there may be circumstances in which they are desirable.

Anne


Hm.. something just occurred to me.  If you update the firmware on your 
drive, it may be possible to read unfinalized cd's later with it.  I just 
updated to plextors newest firmware, and it allows me to read/write more 
reliably with certain media because of that.
HTH
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on Intel Hardware

2003-02-06 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:35:46 -0500
Brian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, I would like to put Mandrake 9.0 on a 'white box' that I have at
 home.  Will Mandrake 9.0 run on Intel hardware?  Would this be the i586
 designation, or is there another distribution that I should be
 downloading?
 
  
 
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Brian
 
  
   To the Best of my knowledge Mandrake 9.0 will run on all most anything with 64 MB 
or more of ram and a large enough hard drive for all the options that you want to 
install.  Well anything with in reason dont try to run it on a toaster or can opener.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 12:38 PM 2/6/2003 +, you wrote:


snip
 Data discs have to be fixed but they don't necessarily have to be fixed all
 over the cd, it depends. So you could have a data disc that you fix the
 written
 portion of, and leave the rest of the disc unfixed, then add some more data
 files at a later date and fix those and so on.

Are you sure about this, John?  I have always understood that fixating closed
the disk.

Anne
--
Registered Linux User No.293302


Unless I'm mistaken John is referring to multi-session writing.  That 
means that essentially you can write to the cd again later, b/c it hasn't 
been completely finalized.  Takes some finagling but you can leave part of 
the cd open  parts closed.  This requires, if i'm not mistaken, quite a 
bit of knowledge in teh use of NERO or some other burning program.  Nero 
has some nifty tricks to do this but unless you are well versed in how to 
do so, I suggest leaving it be  just close the whole CD session (Finalize it).

Audio, ofc, is different again.  I won't even try to explain that stuff as 
I don't understand it myself.
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Re: [newbie] OT(?) Mutt Pine email clients

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 18:03, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Hm... went to see both Pines  Mutts web sites.  Wondered ppl's opinions on 
 both  which is more newbie friendly.
 
 Basically I want to learn either one (whichever is easier for now) just so 
 that again I can use an email client on any system anywhere to retrieve 
 mail.  Plus I'm curious to see how a text based client handles things.  :)

Hey Femme,
Couldn't get a good flame war going w/ emacs/vi so now you're trying
this tac? ;-)
Next you'll be asking us about KDE/Gnome; less filling/tastes great  ;-)
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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:53 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:

I noticed in my book from EZ cd Creator 5 Platinum, it says a bunch about 
udf
v1.5 and also multiread CDroms, it mentions that it installs a UDFv1.5
reader and unless the computer has this reader it can not read multiread
CDroms.

snip

Heh I'd forgotten about UDF. (Universal Device Filemanager, IIRC).  Neat 
software program.  Allows older cdroms to read unfinished/unfinalized 
cd's.  Of course it also needs that CDRom to be UDF compliant (a firmware 
update if possible will fix that.  usually.).  Ran into this nifty little 
util years ago when I got my Panasonic  a friend gave me a cd it couldn't 
read. :)

These days UDF is de riguer in any CDRoms' firmware.  It allows almost 
universal reading of any cd in almost any format.  Exceptions are rare (and 
I can't think of any offhand... anyone?).
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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will

2003-02-06 Thread civileme
On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:55 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 09:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0900, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 08:13 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
matter which machine I'm on in the future (be it a friends with linux
on it who's fubared X, or my own) I can edit files  cfgs quickly 
painlessly.

 snippers

 I have it on my system and also on floppy (DOS compatible).  It takes up
  very little space, even with source, and runs from a 12K file on my
  system.
 
 It is not likely to be installed, but that is a relatively quick matter to
 fix.  What it took for 9.0 was copying its binaries to /usr/bin (doesn't
 depend on any external libs)  It even has an Undo.
 
 Now the one caution is that for supporting regular expressions it pipes
 through sed, so knowledge of sed is necessary to support regular
  expression manipulations.
 snip
 
 Civileme

 Ok... thats sounds tres cool to me :)

 Thx CM.  Question:  what are regular expressions ?  And sed?  Heard of
 it... but no clue what it is... I'll look it up later.  The regular
 expressions has me stumped though mostly.

 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert
man sed
man regexp

A regular expression is something like
^[K][k].*retry\ [[:lower:]]

Which would match lines starting with K or k and have retry followed by a 
space and lowercase characters

It allows for REALLY advanced searches and works well with grep egrep rgrep 
etc.

Civileme



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[newbie] Module question?

2003-02-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Okay, I've done man on modprobe, insmod, and depmod but I'm at a loss to 
understand how to get the adi module to load and then -be- loaded everytime I 
powerup.

Using insmod results in some unresolved symbol errors

modprobe seems to work, adi is then shown by lsmod

depmod -a after all this, but the next time I reboot, its not there. I tried 
sticking modprobe adi in modules.conf and BOOM, I lost several services as 
well as the ability to startx (Nvidia). I put adi in modules and nothing 
happens there.

Can anyone help - I just really want to get my Logitech Wingman USB joystick 
to work :-)

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Installation boot Kernel hang

2003-02-06 Thread Simon Hosking
g'day walt,
booting from alt2 works: the kernel loads. there are a couple of warning
messages during install that i should be using a 2.4 kernel, rather than
2.2. Have you had any problems with this?

walt wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 16:21, Simon Hosking wrote:
  Hi,
  I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on a Toshiba Satellite 2430 laptop
  (P4 2.4, 256MB, NVidia 4GO 420).
  Using the install guidelines, I've tried to install booting from CD and
  boot floppy (using cdrom.img). In each case, the graphical installation
  screen gives the option of pressing enter for a graphical install, or
  other options such as text install, expert etc. However, no matter which
  of these I use, the install hangs almost immediately after pressing
  ENTER.
  In text mode, the screen output is:
 
  Loading alt0...
  Loading alt0/all.rgz...
  Ready...
  Uncompressing Linux ... OK, booting the Kernel.
 
  Here is where the system hangs (no screen output or CPU activity) and i
  end up having to shut down.
 
  Has anyone else had this problem or know of a fix. Could be a SETUP BIOS
  problem?
 
  thanks,
  Simon
 
 
  __
 try an alternate kernel...when you boot to the CD, hit F2 instead of enter and type 
alt2 or which ever kernel you want to use..I have to use alt2 for my system
 
 Walt
 
   
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Re: [newbie] OT(?) Mutt Pine email clients

2003-02-06 Thread Roger Sherman
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, FemmeFatale wrote:




Hm... went to see both Pines  Mutts web sites.  Wondered ppl's opinions on 
both  which is more newbie friendly.

Basically I want to learn either one (whichever is easier for now) just so 
that again I can use an email client on any system anywhere to retrieve 
mail.  Plus I'm curious to see how a text based client handles things.  :)

Ya theres a trend here... its called Learn things on the CLI  bang your 
head against a wall for a while till you know this stuff cold.  And you can 
do this anywhere/anytime on any system. :)

Heh same question in the vein of the emacs/vi post.  Sorry if ppl feel like 
i'm wasting bandwith but I have done some research on this  I am not 
entirely clear on which one would suit better to learn on.  Besides, 
learning is fun!  Or so I'm told... :D

pine, baby, pine - it's just cooler. ;-

good luck with the command line thing - and while youre at it, you might 
want to pick up a book that was a tremendous help for me when i was doing 
the same thing - linux system commands, by volkerding and reichard. lists 
commands in three categorys - what they do, what their dos equivalent is, 
and what section of the book they're described in depth in. it's never out 
of arms reach for me when i'm on the pc.

please pardon the lack of caps - i installed 9.1b3 today, and it 
apparently came without caps. ;-/

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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 02:56 PM 2/6/2003 -0900, you wrote:

snap.  got tired of snip
man sed
man regexp

A regular expression is something like
^[K][k].*retry\ [[:lower:]]

Which would match lines starting with K or k and have retry followed by a
space and lowercase characters

It allows for REALLY advanced searches and works well with grep egrep rgrep
etc.

Civileme


Ugh... Thx for the info... I'll pass on that for now heh.

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Re: [newbie] OT(?) Mutt Pine email clients

2003-02-06 Thread FemmeFatale
At 01:03 AM 11/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, FemmeFatale wrote:



Hm... went to see both Pines  Mutts web sites.  Wondered ppl's opinions 
on both  which is more newbie friendly.
Basically I want to learn either one (whichever is easier for now) just 
so that again I can use an email client on any system anywhere to 
retrieve mail.  Plus I'm curious to see how a text based client handles 
things.  :)
Ya theres a trend here... its called Learn things on the CLI  bang your 
head against a wall for a while till you know this stuff cold.  And you 
can do this anywhere/anytime on any system. :)
Heh same question in the vein of the emacs/vi post.  Sorry if ppl feel 
like i'm wasting bandwith but I have done some research on this  I am 
not entirely clear on which one would suit better to learn on.  Besides, 
learning is fun!  Or so I'm told... :D

pine, baby, pine - it's just cooler. ;-

good luck with the command line thing - and while youre at it, you might 
want to pick up a book that was a tremendous help for me when i was doing 
the same thing - linux system commands, by volkerding and reichard. lists 
commands in three categorys - what they do, what their dos equivalent is, 
and what section of the book they're described in depth in. it's never out 
of arms reach for me when i'm on the pc.

please pardon the lack of caps - i installed 9.1b3 today, and it 
apparently came without caps. ;-/

--

peace,

Rog

Rofl @ Rog!  No caps huh?  Hm... might make flaming a bit tougher to do... 
but i'm sure you'll manage. :)

Thx... I am leaning to Mutt atm only cause it looks somewhat simpler  more 
configurable.  I figured I'd ask this anyway cause ... well.. why 
not?  Worst thing that will happen is I'll get a million ppl posting things 
like:  Are you trying to level your own country!?  We did that in teh 
Crusades to Europe  the Mid-East!!!  Why repeat history!? :)
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Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will

2003-02-06 Thread et
On Thursday 06 February 2003 06:56 pm, civileme wrote:
 On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:55 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
  At 09:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0900, you wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 February 2003 08:13 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
 matter which machine I'm on in the future (be it a friends with
 linux on it who's fubared X, or my own) I can edit files  cfgs
 quickly  painlessly.
 
  snippers
 
  I have it on my system and also on floppy (DOS compatible).  It takes up
   very little space, even with source, and runs from a 12K file on my
   system.
  
  It is not likely to be installed, but that is a relatively quick matter
   to fix.  What it took for 9.0 was copying its binaries to /usr/bin
   (doesn't depend on any external libs)  It even has an Undo.
  
  Now the one caution is that for supporting regular expressions it pipes
  through sed, so knowledge of sed is necessary to support regular
   expression manipulations.
  snip
  
  Civileme
 
  Ok... thats sounds tres cool to me :)
 
  Thx CM.  Question:  what are regular expressions ?  And sed?  Heard of
  it... but no clue what it is... I'll look it up later.  The regular
  expressions has me stumped though mostly.
 
  -
  FemmeFatale
 
  Good Decisions You boss Made:
  We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
  character from Peanuts.
 
  - Source: Dilbert

 man sed
 man regexp

 A regular expression is something like
 ^[K][k].*retry\ [[:lower:]]

 Which would match lines starting with K or k and have retry followed by a
 space and lowercase characters

 It allows for REALLY advanced searches and works well with grep egrep rgrep
 etc.

 Civileme
is this the stuff that makes the command line cool,,, or what...


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[newbie] starting mplayer

2003-02-06 Thread Josenildo Marques
Hi List !

I've installed Mplayer, but I can't run it.
Will you have a look and maybe tell me what I am supposed to do ?

Thank you very much.



[root@localhost root]# gmplayer
Using GNU internationalization
Original domain: messages
Original dirname: /usr/share/locale
Current domain: mplayer
Current dirname: /usr/local/share/locale


MPlayer 0.90rc2-3.2 (C) 2000-2002 Arpad Gereoffy (see DOCS)

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon 4 PM Palomino/Athlon MP 
Multiprocessor/Athlon XP eXtreme Performance (Family: 6, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE

Reading config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf: No such file or 
directory
Reading config file /root/.mplayer/config
[cfg] read config file: /root/.mplayer/gui.conf
Reading config file /root/.mplayer/gui.conf: No such file or directory
vo: X11 running at 800x600 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (:0.0 = local display)
Reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open '/root/.mplayer/codecs.conf': 
No such file or directory
Reading /usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 49 audio  125 video codecs
font: can't open file: /root/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
Using Linux hardware RTC timing (1024Hz)
Can't open input config file /root/.mplayer/input.conf : No such file or 
directory
Can't open input config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/input.conf : No such file 
or directory
Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config
SKIN dir 1: '/root/.mplayer/Skin'
SKIN dir 2: '/usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin'
[skin] file ( /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
Skin not found ( default ).
[root@localhost root]#


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Re: [newbie]

2003-02-06 Thread Chuck Burns
On Thursday 06 February 2003 08:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
*snip*
 Petty sure, as I say I have never got it to fix the data only on a linux
 programme, but
 all of the windblows proggies can fix the data only amount ofa  cd and
 leave the
 rest of the blank cd open to add more .It's just a question of getting
 the right
 option ticked . It goes, (from memory) something like fix data don't fix
 disc before
 the final write begins.
*snip*
What's happening is, it's closing the session, and not the disc.  I'm fairly 
certain that cdrecord automatically closes the session on every burn, and the 
fixate closes the disc.

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