Re: [newbie] Intro
On Monday 28 July 2003 11:18 pm, Frankie wrote: > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen > Kuhn > Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 6:42 AM > To: Mandrake Newbie > Subject: Re: [newbie] Intro > > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 12:49, Aron Smith wrote: > > Whot the Aussie gals ain't real? > > Nah, they're all inflatable. > > -- > FRANKI: > I'll have you know that my GF is not inflatable.. > > I have to keep putting money in to get anything, but > definately not inflatable. > > besides, the same could be said of most females (have to > keep putting > money in.. :-) > > > rgds > > Franki ** myself I've always married god housekeepers **They always keep the house ** next year find a woman that I don't like and give her a house (it's cheaper) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Strange Behaviour by File Manager (Superuser) - Repost
Hi Y'all, I opened Konqueror as superuserthe other day with the intention of moving some files from my user directory to my windows drive to which the user does not have write permission. When I navigated to my /home/user directory, the window displayed a web page - the UK Mirror Service Homepage even though most of the links displayed on it didn't work. I'm sure this isn't supposed to happen. Anyone ever seen anything like this ? I'm using mdk 9.0 -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing wm with gnome2
On 29 Jul 2003 08:38:55 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the tricks is to run the gnome-session utility - replace where > is says metacity with sawfish - logout, login; keep in mind that it will > choke and puke a few more times until it realises that you've got a > different wm...(really sucks, but the Gnome people have removed > configuration ability in the hopes of everyone being happy not being > able to configure it further...go figure that one...) > > Another way of doing it - and this is really a hack - is to rename > /usr/bin/metacity to something else, and then make a link to > /usr/bin/sawfish called /usr/bin/metacity - yeah, it's a sucky hack, but > it does work... > > Bear in mind, too - Gnome will occasionally puke with Sawfish as the wm > for whatever reason...still can't figure that one out... Well, I don't know what happened, but while faffing about trying to configure Gnome 2.2 and Sawfish it all came together. Nautilus is dead, the logout button on the panel now works as intended, the session is saved automatically, and whatever Stephen's reservations are about Gnome 2.2 there doesn't seem to be much that affects the way my desktop is set up. A good point is the accuracy of the save sessions function. Until now it had always been a bit hit or miss. All I have to do now is get it to talk PPP. There was one odd occurrence; somewhere along the line aumix stopped working for lcl, still OK for root. It turned out that all the permissions in /dev/sound were 600 - had to chmod them to 666. OK after that. (Maybe aumix is supposed to be run suid root.) Thanks to everybody for your helpful suggestions and for putting up with my moaning. Will make a note of your suggestions Stephen in case of trouble later. Cheers everybody, and long live Gnome && Mandrake. -- Len Lawrence -- Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Intro
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 6:42 AM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Intro On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 12:49, Aron Smith wrote: > Whot the Aussie gals ain't real? Nah, they're all inflatable. -- FRANKI: I'll have you know that my GF is not inflatable.. I have to keep putting money in to get anything, but definately not inflatable. besides, the same could be said of most females (have to keep putting money in.. :-) rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:55 pm, Miark wrote: > On 26 Jul 2003 22:06:14 +0300, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There was also the disk-compression software,Stacker. > > > > Ms offered to allow the developer/company to add it to MS-DOS 6 without > > paying them royalties. For some reason they refused, Ms put in > > double-space - & got sued. had to withdraw 6.0, and replace it with 6.1 > > without compression, had to pay out USD 120 million. > > > > Ms also had the nerve to counter-sue and won about USD 20M because Stac > > reverse-engineered double-space to find the infringements, and therby > > broke trade agreements. > > > > Paul M > > Sons of bitches. I can't believe the legal system even allows them the > luxury of counter-suing in such a scenario. Man. > > Speaking of which, what's the likelihood that M$ is using GPLed code in > their crap? > > Miark ** I would say it is almost certain Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:59, Miark wrote: > Central Point... that rings a bell from my Apple IIc days. Any connection? > > Miark > Central Point was the creator of PC Tools...mainly a Dos-win31X thing. It's noteworthy that Xtree lives on these days in the Linux world. http://www.xtreefanpage.org/x64linux.htm I've still got Xtree on a 98 machine and I use it sometimes at the Dos 7.10 prompt before I start win98. > > > On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 19:12, John Wilson wrote: > > > > > > XTree was one product I was thinking of, though if memory serves (which it > > > sometimes doesn't) that was the DOS product not the Windoze one. It was > > > wonderful though. > > > > > > You know, you're right about Symantec picking up the pieces of the defunct > > > Central Point. Just goes to show how good the above mentioned memory is at > > > midnight after a 10 hour day at work :-) > > > > > > ttfn > > > > > > John --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk "Filter That, Beach!" --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:55, Miark wrote: > On 26 Jul 2003 22:06:14 +0300, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There was also the disk-compression software,Stacker. > > > > Ms offered to allow the developer/company to add it to MS-DOS 6 without > > paying them royalties. For some reason they refused, Ms put in > > double-space - & got sued. had to withdraw 6.0, and replace it with 6.1 > > without compression, had to pay out USD 120 million. > > > > Ms also had the nerve to counter-sue and won about USD 20M because Stac > > reverse-engineered double-space to find the infringements, and therby > > broke trade agreements. > > > > Paul M > > Sons of bitches. I can't believe the legal system even allows them the > luxury of counter-suing in such a scenario. Man. > > Speaking of which, what's the likelihood that M$ is using GPLed code in > their crap? > > Miark > > > __ A "virtual" certainty. It's one of the reasons why they did not want little puppet judge Kotar-Kelly to get ahold of the source code. In addition to that you would also be able to prove the existence of engineered security holes. It would possibly be the end for M$ if the source ever escaped. Of course, if someone wanted to single handedly take M$ down, it's possible that the code could be leaked from the inside. --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk "Filter That, Beach!" --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
On 26 Jul 2003 22:06:14 +0300, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There was also the disk-compression software,Stacker. > > Ms offered to allow the developer/company to add it to MS-DOS 6 without > paying them royalties. For some reason they refused, Ms put in > double-space - & got sued. had to withdraw 6.0, and replace it with 6.1 > without compression, had to pay out USD 120 million. > > Ms also had the nerve to counter-sue and won about USD 20M because Stac > reverse-engineered double-space to find the infringements, and therby > broke trade agreements. > > Paul M Sons of bitches. I can't believe the legal system even allows them the luxury of counter-suing in such a scenario. Man. Speaking of which, what's the likelihood that M$ is using GPLed code in their crap? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
Central Point... that rings a bell from my Apple IIc days. Any connection? Miark > On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 19:12, John Wilson wrote: > > > > XTree was one product I was thinking of, though if memory serves (which it > > sometimes doesn't) that was the DOS product not the Windoze one. It was > > wonderful though. > > > > You know, you're right about Symantec picking up the pieces of the defunct > > Central Point. Just goes to show how good the above mentioned memory is at > > midnight after a 10 hour day at work :-) > > > > ttfn > > > > John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] UT not accepting connections
I'm using a MDK 9.1 box as a gateway machine for a cable connection with Comcast. It's running Firestarter as a firewall, and I have ports -7781 forwarded to my comp for hosting Unreal Tournament games. Last night I tried to host a game, but my buddy couldn't connect to my machine. I checked Firestarter and it wasn't registering the attempts which means the connection was going through to my box. My box was running UT on Winblows XP. I checked UT's .ini files, and it is set to accept connections on . Why do you think he couldn't make it through to me? (And yes, I could connect to him.) Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.4 update
He means more than twice as long. Miark On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:24:56 -0500, Joeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Richard Smith wrote: > > > I don't know if anyone else is experiencing it but since I updated the > > standard > > Mozilla version to V1.4 , last night, the download speed for emails > > has more than halved. > > > > John > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Does that mean it's done in half the time or takes twice as long? > > Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: 1. Original post was in error ccf, to most, myself included, your post was an obvious error, and accepted as such, and also found interesting, as i also grow tomatoes. what is of questionable acceptance, are some of replies with unnecessary quoting of your entire post and other's post. it was meant for the OT list, where we have an on-going discussion on this topic. what is with this 'OT' list? are you meaning adding of '[OT]' to 'subject:' line, or does mandrake have another mailing list? peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: > > Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and > > figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do > > it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not > > running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have > > not found anything to help. > > It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf > of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo > to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful > jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second > installation on the "second" drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then > make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, > and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about > > > aumix not running. > > > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to make my > > > sound work for my first install (the second time i installed it > > > worked from the start...): > > > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > > > non-zero). > > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: > > > the sliders all go to zero) > > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back > > > to non-zero values) > > > 4. Save settings > > > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > > > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute > > > > All, and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on > > > > again. I unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started it again and > > > > it was ckecked again. Went round and round with aumix with no > > > > luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour > > > > glass just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure > > > > sound? > > > > > > > > mike > > > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and alsamixser. When > > either is run I get the following: > > > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" > > > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > > > mike > > What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? > > HTH, > > -Frans /sbin/lsmod | grep snd- produces nothing but another prompt!! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 2.6-test kernel rpms available?
Hello! I finally got all the kinks worked out with the conversion of attbi to comcast and everything's finally settled in. It was kinda strange being off the list. I've been trying to keep up by reading the archives while working everything out but I've missed a lot. Good to be back. That said, I have a question (imagine that!) about the 2.6-test kernel. pclinuxonline had a bit about rpms available for mandrake on some mirrors in contrib. I've been going through the mirrors but can't seem to locate it. Does anybody know which mirror has it? Thanks in advance! Jerry. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: > Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and > figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it > so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running > tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found > anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the "second" drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. -- Tue Jul 29 13:40:00 EST 2003 13:40:00 up 15 days, 5:43, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.24, 0.51 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's hard to get it back in. -- H.R. Haldeman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why doesn't msec set directory permissions properly?
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:47, Sharrea wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:41, Avi Schwartz wrote: > > Because the machine in question will end being a server connected 24x7 > > to the Internet, I set its security level to higher (4). However, I > > want to change the privileges for /usr/share/doc to be world browsable > > and readable. I used drakeperm to set the directory permissions and > > when I look at /etc/security/msec/perm.local I see the following line: > > > > /usr/share/doc/adm.adm755 > > > > I then ran msec but when I checked the permissions on the directory I > > still see: > > > > drwxr-x--- 297 admadm > > > > In /var/log/messages I do see that msec is reading the perm.local file. > > > > Any idea why is msec ignoring my permissions? > > I don't know why that doesn't work but its probably easier to change the > group to a group which you let all users belong to. Then put that group in > perm.local. > > I've found the same problem with trying to change the actual rwx permissions > on files that msec is controlling so I change the group instead. > > Sharrea msec can be thought of as a cron script, running every so often to make sure that the perms are "where msec wants" and thereby preventing even a well meaning but forgetful tech from leaving a open vulnerability. you, can of course, tell msec to not check certain files. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intro
Oh, you [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 28 July 2003 06:26 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 04:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 09:20, Aron Smith wrote: > > What y'all need to see are "Balmain Bugs"; makes ya rethink eating > > shellfish. We do have some prawns here that are the size of bloody small > > lobsters...fantastic eating... > > **Butterfly Cook under Broiler with garlic and butter sauce --I'll take 2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical-Mode Login Session
Follow ed's advice. You will then need to go to the Control Center to Set up your user (Start>Configuration>Other>UserDrake). I am assuming that the only log-in you have now is for "root"?. User "root" is not for everyday use, it is the equiv. of Windows "Administrator" with all of the attendant pivileges. Once your user is set-up, you can check to see if you can log-in as your "username" with your password. If this works you can then set-up to boot directly to the gui log-in by editing (any text editor, KWrite is fine, emacs is better) your /etc/inittab Find the line that says id:3:initdefault: and put a # sign in front of it like this #id:3:initdefault: below it put this line: id:5:initdefault: If what you want is to boot to gui, this is ONE of the ways to make it so. If I mis-understood, sorry for the wasted bandwidth. On Monday 28 July 2003 06:48 pm, ed tharp wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:35, Daniel wrote: > > I install Mandrake 9.1 and during the installation I did not create a > > user login. When I boot my computer it start Linux in a dos mode. How do > > I load in Graphical-Mode Login Session. > > > > Thank you > > after you login with the user name and passwords you set up during > install, type, without the quotes "startx" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] klcc configure error
On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 1:03 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 12:33, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > I have mandrake 9.1 system > > I tried for compiling klcc tar. > > > > ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 > > --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt3/include > > --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3/lib > > > > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (library qt-mt) > > not found. Please check your installation! > > > > Have you checked that the QT lib dir was in the /etc/ld.so.conf listing > and that you've rerun ldconfig to rebuild the lib path cache? Here's > what mine looks like, and I've compiled it without a problem: > > /usr/lib > /usr/local/lib > /usr/local/lib/xfce4 > /usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/lib/qt3/lib > /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post > /usr/lib/wine > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3 > /usr/local/netscape > /usr/lib/evolution/1.3 > /usr/lib/kde3 > /usr/java/lib Yes I have /usr/lib/qt3/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf from the boot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] klcc configure error
On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 12:12 pm, Sharrea wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:33, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > I have mandrake 9.1 system > > I tried for compiling klcc tar. > > > > ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 > > --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt3/include > > --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3/lib > > > > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (library qt-mt) > > not found. Please check your installation! > > For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. > > Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! > > > > Do you have the devel package installed? That _may_ be the problem - I'm > certainly no expert on compiling errors. > > Like I said, I used the source rpm klcc-2.0.3-2mdk.src.rpm which rebuilt > without a problem on MDK9.0. > > These are the qt packages I have installed: > $ rpm -qa | grep -i qt > libqt3-devel-3.1.1-12mdk > libqt3-psql-3.1.1-12mdk > libqt3-mysql-3.1.1-12mdk > libqt3-3.1.1-12mdk > libqt3-common-3.1.1-12mdk > libqt3-odbc-3.1.1-12mdk > > Note they are not version 3.0.3 that the klcc tarball is looking for. the klcc tarball is looking for >= Qt 3.0.3. Hence it is ok. I also have libqt3-devel-3.1.1-12mdk libqt3-3.1.1-12mdk libqt3-common-3.1.1-12mdk I hope only these min required. Further /etc/ld.so.conf has /usr/lib/qt3/lib. Further I tried klcc-2.0.3-2mdk.src.rpm. I got the following error. + STATUS=0 + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' + cd klcc-2.0.3 + echo 'Patch #0 (klcc-2.0.3-qt3-fixes.patch.bz2):' Patch #0 (klcc-2.0.3-qt3-fixes.patch.bz2): + /usr/bin/bzip2 -d + patch -p1 -s + CFLAGS=-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586 -mcpu=pentiumpro + CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586 -mcpu=pentiumpro + ./configure --libdir=/usr/lib --prefix=/usr --disable-rpath ./configure: line 1: expr: command not found ./configure: line 1: expr: command not found ./configure: line 1: expr: command not found ./configure: line 1: expr: command not found ./configure: line 382: expr: command not found configure: error: expected an absolute path for --libdir: error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71237 (%prep) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71237 (%prep) I am at loss to understand where I am going wrong. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Connecting to internet
Now it,s working, now the problem is conecting to internet. I have a wireless D-LinkDI-614+ router and DWL-520+ PCI Adaptor I hve a hard time trying to connect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: 28 juillet 2003 21:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Graphical-Mode Login Session On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:35, Daniel wrote: > I install Mandrake 9.1 and during the installation I did not create a > user login. When I boot my computer it start Linux in a dos mode. How do > I load in Graphical-Mode Login Session. > > Thank you after you login with the user name and passwords you set up during install, type, without the quotes "startx" -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical-Mode Login Session
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:35, Daniel wrote: > I install Mandrake 9.1 and during the installation I did not create a > user login. When I boot my computer it start Linux in a dos mode. How do > I load in Graphical-Mode Login Session. > > Thank you after you login with the user name and passwords you set up during install, type, without the quotes "startx" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Intro
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:12, Frankie wrote: > FRANKI: Stephen, you sick bastard.. your giving Aussies a > bad name here. :-) Mate, that's like impossible to do in the first place. -- Tue Jul 29 08:40:01 EST 2003 08:40:01 up 15 days, 43 min, 2 users, load average: 0.26, 0.31, 0.31 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * An object or bit of information most needed will be the least available -- SNAFU Equations (JB's Scholastic Laws) n2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intro
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 09:58, Eric Huff wrote: > > BTW a shrimp on the barbie --why would you put shellfish on a doll ; > > > Shrimp is stephen's pet name for ken. BTW, in relearning "English" - we don't say "shrimp" here - it's "prawns" -- Tue Jul 29 08:30:01 EST 2003 08:30:01 up 15 days, 33 min, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.33, 0.30 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * It appears that after his death, Albert Einstein found himself working as the doorkeeper at the Pearly Gates. One slow day, he found that he had time to chat with the new entrants. To the first one he asked, "What's your IQ?" The new arrival replied, "190". They discussed Einstein's theory of relativity for hours. When the second new arrival came, Einstein once again inquired as to the newcomer's IQ. The answer this time came "120". To which Einstein replied, "Tell me, how did the Cubs do this year?" and they proceeded to talk for half an hour or so. To the final arrival, Einstein once again posed the question, "What's your IQ?". Upon receiving the answer "70", Einstein smiled and replied, "Got a minute to tell me about VMS 4.0?" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse
I finaly fix the problem, I install a ps2 adaptor to my mouse n dit is working. It seems that there is a problem with this mouse and usb. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g Sent: 27 juillet 2003 18:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse Aron Smith wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2003 04:30 pm, Daniel wrote: >>I have a Logitech Marble Mouse and I did not see this hardware in the > > Try the generic wheel mouse worked for me;) md 6 thru 9.1 have set my logitech trackman marble, 3 buttons, no wheel, as a default 3 buttons, with out any problems. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gtk-gnutella
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:49 am, Paul M wrote: > > Had no problems with gnutella, haven't worked out how the filters work on > the download search yet though. > i have a question...what is gnutella? :) > > But I do only use it to download songs that I've already got on vinyl & > tape - I'd never do otherwise, would I? > ya know, 95% of my downloading has been the exact same thing (except i don't have any vinyl stuff), but i'm sure the RIAA doesn't give a damn. on the topic of the RIAA, is there an "I Hate The RIAA" mailing list on the net yet? :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
> ** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes, > he gets testy ;-)) Fresh cooked meal of Wisconsin raised organic veggies and cheese to any list member who stops by for a visit :) Zucchini, sweet peppers, onions, mushrooms, tomatoes sauteed in olive oil with melted cheese on top! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:20 pm, Networks East wrote: > I agree, go find a veggie list to discuss this in **n No way will i go to a windows list! :-) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:08 PM > Subject: RE: [newbie] GMO foods > > > >The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > > > > but > > > > >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list."... > > > > Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded > > diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? > > > > I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free > > this > > > list for Linux. :) > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods > > > > > With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake > > > Linux? This is a linux list. > > > > 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error > > to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. > > Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: > > The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > > but > > > we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. > > > > :) > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
On Monday 28 July 2003 01:05 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > I've installed > > momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > > blowed if I can find it , any suggestions ? ** MOM-o-zilla ? :-) > > John > > Miark wrote: > >Fire up rpmdrake, search for mozilla-1.4 and read through the > >descriptions of the results. > > > >You'll probably want plugger and firebird. > > > >Miark > > > >On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:36:59 +, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Restored Mozilla 1.4 with a complete headlist and urpmi update > >> reinstall. This time I downloaded the lot first then installing them to > >> build the package. > >> > >> > >>Texstar has, > >>mozilla-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-flash-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-java-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > >>mmozilla-mail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > >> > >>which speak for themselves, > >> > >>but what do these all do, > >> > >>mozilla-devel-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > >>mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm > >> > >> > >>Can I just install them , won't break anything will it ? > >> > >>John > >> > >> > >>-- > >>John Richard Smith > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kmail question
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 9:38 pm, crak600 wrote: > quickie about kmail.when i click on a web page link that's been > e-mailed to me, the page opens up in Konqueror. i can't find where to make > it open up in mozilla web browser as the default. i've checked out all the > options for kmail and i don't see a way to make it default to mozilla > instead of konqueror. am i stuck with it this way and have to manually > select mozilla every time or did i miss something? thanks! > > Mike KDE Control Centre>Components>File Associations type html in the search box Move mozilla to the top of the list in 'application preference order' -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kmail question
quickie about kmail.when i click on a web page link that's been e-mailed to me, the page opens up in Konqueror. i can't find where to make it open up in mozilla web browser as the default. i've checked out all the options for kmail and i don't see a way to make it default to mozilla instead of konqueror. am i stuck with it this way and have to manually select mozilla every time or did i miss something? thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse
Could it be becuse it's usb, there is no 3 button generic for the usb mouse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g Sent: 27 juillet 2003 18:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse Aron Smith wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2003 04:30 pm, Daniel wrote: >>I have a Logitech Marble Mouse and I did not see this hardware in the > > Try the generic wheel mouse worked for me;) md 6 thru 9.1 have set my logitech trackman marble, 3 buttons, no wheel, as a default 3 buttons, with out any problems. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.150 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:02 pm, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: > > In general, we know far too little about them. > > Posted to the wrong list, perhaps? > > Anne at least it isn't more bashing and name calling about personal standpoints on political topics! lol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
John Richard Smith wrote: I've installed momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm blowed if I can find it , any suggestions ? John Miark wrote: Fire up rpmdrake, search for mozilla-1.4 and read through the descriptions of the results. You'll probably want plugger and firebird. Miark On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:36:59 +, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Restored Mozilla 1.4 with a complete headlist and urpmi update reinstall. This time I downloaded the lot first then installing them to build the package. Texstar has, mozilla-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-flash-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mozilla-java-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mmozilla-mail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm which speak for themselves, but what do these all do, mozilla-devel-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm Can I just install them , won't break anything will it ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] It runs as part of Mozilla. You should now see a button to check spelling when you compose your emails. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
I agree, go find a veggie list to discuss this in - Original Message - From: "Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] GMO foods > >The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > but > >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list."... > > Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded > diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? > > I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free this > list for Linux. :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods > > > > With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? > > This is a linux list. > > 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to > this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. > 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: > The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but > > we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. > :) > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
Say , what is it , with this signature stuff , then. Ralph Slootens post came up a right bad signature. Nearly wouldn't let me read it. What has he done to offend Mozilla ? Sorry Ralph , your exiled for now , Anyhow what is enigmail all about then ? John LATER == OK I took it off and reinstalled it and not I've spellchecker, don't know why it didn't take the first time around though. probably something to do with the order of install which was entirely manual. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 8:12 pm, Michael Adams wrote: > > Anne, what version of Moz offers this? and where is it switched > on/off? Looks as though I misled you. I can't find it in the current Moz, so perhaps it was a Netscape thing. What I'm using is the 'allow pop-ups' with exceptions, which can be set on a site by site basis. Alternatively you could deny with exceptions. This is found either in Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Popup Windows, or from the Tools menu where you can block or allow from the site you are currently on, and also manage your lists. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:35:44 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:47 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:10:09 -0700 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't it easier to simply suppress popups (Moz) or use smart denial of popups (Konq)? For popups that is probably true, assuming you are using moz or konq. But this was for ads that don't popup. Some sites i go to have flashy ads that make page scrolling jumpy just because the animation is running. Also, it's nicer to read pages w/o the ads cluttering it up. eric I actually wondered about blocking requests from HTML to servers other than the page originator. This would break some sites, but i wonder how many of those sites i want to see anyways. It would work something like this. I follow a link> HTTP page request (server details noted) page comes in < HTTP page delivery browser renders HTML HTML code requests a graphic/etc > HTTP request to noted server approved -HTTP request to any other server dropped My guess is it could only be implimented on the browser itself. Be one hell of a security feature though, less than half the cookies, and speed up surfing no end. Unless I misunderstand you, this is just what Mozilla offers. I used to use it in Netscape, but now I find that using that disables on-line banking and too many other useful sites are broken. I've compromised and use the blocks on a site-by-site basis. Anne Anne, what version of Moz offers this? and where is it switched on/off? I'm not sure when Mozilla implemented it, but you can check for it under: To regulate cookies: Edit => Preferences => Privacy & Security => Cookies To regulate images: Edit => Preferences => Privacy & Security => Images To regulate popups: Edit => Preferences => Privacy & Security => Popup Windows -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD writing software
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 7:50 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: > I hope this may clear up some facts here. Although you probably > should not quote me exactly, what I have written here is fact to a > point. Just check yourself. The DVD's you have (blanks) are 4.x > Gigs, right. Mount a DVD, and do `df -h` ... unless it's either a > documentary where they weren't bothered, or a b-rated film, chances > are it's above 6 Gigs. > Very interesting, Ralph. I haven't bought a writer yet, but would like to at some point. What I would really like to do, though, is to transfer from tape some of the footage that is most unlikely to ever make it to dvd. Some are old- or tv-produced films, many are documentaries. I would say the longest would be 90 minutes, with most around 1 hour. Would they fit on current blanks? And hypothetically, we are told that new technology will enable us to fit several times more on disks that are just around the corner. Does that mean that we are going to be forced to pay for many, many hours of unwanted rubbish stuck on the end every time we buy a film, just to make them bigger than the new standard? It doesn't bear thinking about. It's bad enough now, only being able to buy some films in the 'special' editions, with heaven knows what stuck on the end - which I've never watched. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
1. Original post was in error (please re-read earlier post)...As I said THEN, it was meant for the OT list, where we have an on-going discussion on this topic. 2. This list has ALWAYS had fun minor diversions...Even BEFORE the OT list. Some of the "minor diversions" have been quite long winded (and heated!) You just missed a long discussion about this. 99% + of bytes are direct Linux I think you can deal with the <1% :) Other lists ALSO have OT off shoots at times. Life is not one dimentional...If you can not handle this, filter, or choose "ignore thread" in your mail reader! If you stick around, you will find lots of fun and creative "thank you" emails and generally fun comments, articles, web sites, recreational tidbits, etc. in the context of each person contributing to the list. On Monday 28 July 2003 02:08 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote: > >The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > > but > > >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list."... > > Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded > diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? > > I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free > this list for Linux. :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods > > > With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? > > This is a linux list. > > 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to > this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. > 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: > The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > but > > we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. > > :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:35:44 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:47 pm, Michael Adams wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:10:09 -0700 > > > > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Isn't it easier to simply suppress popups (Moz) or use smart > > > > denial of popups (Konq)? > > > > > > For popups that is probably true, assuming you are using moz or > > > konq. > > > > > > But this was for ads that don't popup. > > > Some sites i go to have flashy ads that make page scrolling jumpy > > > just because the animation is running. > > > Also, it's nicer to read pages w/o the ads cluttering it up. > > > > > > eric > > > > I actually wondered about blocking requests from HTML to servers > > other than the page originator. This would break some sites, but i > > wonder how many of those sites i want to see anyways. It would work > > something like this. > > > > I follow a link> HTTP page request (server details noted) > > page comes in < HTTP page delivery > > browser renders HTML > > HTML code requests a graphic/etc > > > >> HTTP request to noted server approved > > > > -HTTP request to any other server dropped > > > > > > My guess is it could only be implimented on the browser itself. Be > > one hell of a security feature though, less than half the cookies, > > and speed up surfing no end. > > Unless I misunderstand you, this is just what Mozilla offers. I used > to use it in Netscape, but now I find that using that disables > on-line banking and too many other useful sites are broken. I've > compromised and use the blocks on a site-by-site basis. > > Anne > Anne, what version of Moz offers this? and where is it switched on/off? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:08 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote: > >The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > > but > > >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list."... > > Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded > diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? > > I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free > this list for Linux. :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods > > > With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? > > This is a linux list. > > 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to > this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. > 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: > The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, > but > > we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. > > :) ** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes, he gets testy ;-)) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:49:33 -0400 Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:35:44 +0100 > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unless I misunderstand you, this is just what Mozilla offers. I used > > to use it in Netscape, but now I find that using that disables > > on-line banking and too many other useful sites are broken. I've > > compromised and use the blocks on a site-by-site basis. > > I have also run into that problem, gratefully Opera7 offers the option > "Open requested pop-up windows only" which is the best of both worlds. > > > Charles > Not pop-up ads, the thread was about in-line banner style ads. I also block pop-up ads. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD writing software
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:34:46 +0200 "Geert Stichelmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > For six months now, I'm 100% M$-free on my home machine, and would like > to stay that way. > Now, I just bought a Sony DVD RW-U10A, DVD+/-RW and installed it in > mandrake 9.1. > Reading CDROM, writing CD-R, CD-RW (using k3b), playing video DVD's > (using mplayer)..., all works perfect. > > But now I wanna try to copy a DVD. Is there DVD-copy software available > for linux? > Anyone has experience with copying DVD's under linux? Although I have never actually burnt a DVD in my life I do know a couple of things. Firstly, cdrecord can burn DVD's, thus can most GUI's that are still in development. But, and please note this: your DVD writer cannot burn 1:1 coppies of most film DVD's you buy from the shop. The reason for this is simple. DVD's sold with films have a capacity of well over 6 Gigs, and mostly they are filled over the 6 Gigs, not because the extras are neccissary, or even because "the client is king and wants to see it", but purely because the DVD's you can buy (blank) and burn are limited to I believe 4.3 Gigs. So, to put it simple, you can buy 1.4MB floppes with software, but if you want blank ones, you can only write onto 712KB floppies ;-) What I'm trying to say here is commercial DVD's are specificly produced over the limit of blank DVD's to prevent coppying. The encryption technique has been broken / hacked, and they did know this was bound to happen. If someone makes it, someone will break it. But it's impossible to fit 6 gigs onto 4, that's a fact, unless you start editing the origional DVD cutting out extras, remaking the "toc" and menu system if wanted to run in a commercial DVD player. It is possible, no doubt about that, but it's not easy from what I know. Actually, I read an interesting article about someone who actually took the time and effort to try this, and wrote a detailed description of everything they encountered along the way. He concluded that for single copy of a DVD, he would far rather just buy the origional. It was woth the money (just), but definitely not the full day he was busy with it. Actually in this specific case, he was cheaper buying the origional, as he messed up 2 blanks while trying to get it right. So why are there illegal DVD's around, which have been coppied? Well, because someone takes the time to carefully do all this shit, but not for one copy, but for hundreds. Then, and only really then does it become worth-while. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that, if you bought this DVD writer for the sole purpose of coppying easily DVD's, you were far mislead, as many are. DVD's seem only handy for backups really. This would be for me the only reason why I would ever maybe buy one at it's current restriction. > What I'm really looking for is an easy way (gui or command line) to > create an image of a dvd-disc, put it on my harddisk, and burn it on a > DVD+R or DVD-R. Explained above ;-) I hope this may clear up some facts here. Although you probably should not quote me exactly, what I have written here is fact to a point. Just check yourself. The DVD's you have (blanks) are 4.x Gigs, right. Mount a DVD, and do `df -h` ... unless it's either a documentary where they weren't bothered, or a b-rated film, chances are it's above 6 Gigs. Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux" pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Why doesn't msec set directory permissions properly?
I asked this question on the newbie side but received no replies. Maybe it is a question for the experts... Because the machine in question will end being a server connected 24x7 to the Internet, I set its security level to higher (4). However, I want to change the privileges for /usr/share/doc to be world browsable and readable. I used drakeperm to set the directory permissions and when I look at /etc/security/msec/perm.local I see the following line: /usr/share/doc/adm.adm755 I then ran msec but when I checked the permissions on the directory I still see: drwxr-x--- 297 admadm In /var/log/messages I do see that msec is reading the perm.local file. Any idea why is msec ignoring my permissions? Thanks, Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 7:49 pm, Michael Adams wrote: > If you feel you "need" a gui program as root. Open a terminal as a > user, type "su", enter the root password, then type the name of the > program "konqueror" etc. > Or run File Manager Super User Mode, which is just Konqueror with a root password. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GMO foods
>The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list."... Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free this list for Linux. :) -Original Message- From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods > With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? > This is a linux list. 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
LATER == OK I took it off and reinstalled it and not I've spellchecker, don't know why it didn't take the first time around though. probably something to do with the order of install which was entirely manual. John I've installed momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm blowed if I can find it , any suggestions ? John Miark wrote: Fire up rpmdrake, search for mozilla-1.4 and read through the descriptions of the results. You'll probably want plugger and firebird. Miark On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:36:59 +, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Restored Mozilla 1.4 with a complete headlist and urpmi update reinstall. This time I downloaded the lot first then installing them to build the package. Texstar has, mozilla-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-flash-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mozilla-java-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mmozilla-mail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm which speak for themselves, but what do these all do, mozilla-devel-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm Can I just install them , won't break anything will it ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:35:44 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless I misunderstand you, this is just what Mozilla offers. I used > to use it in Netscape, but now I find that using that disables > on-line banking and too many other useful sites are broken. I've > compromised and use the blocks on a site-by-site basis. I have also run into that problem, gratefully Opera7 offers the option "Open requested pop-up windows only" which is the best of both worlds. Charles -- Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here! - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21.6mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Apache 2, virtual hosts and SSL
Stefano, I was reading up on Virtual Domains and Apache and found this. Seems they are doing what you want and show how to make it work. http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/qmail/2002-07/msg00011.php Hope this helps. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Stefano Pogliani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am running MDK 9.1 with Apache 2. > > I have multiple Virtual hosts, all described in the vhosts/Vhosts.conf > file. > > Unfortunately, SSL only works with https://localhost/ . None of the > other alias (https://mymachine.madomain.net/ , > https://myvirtual.host.org/ , https://othervirtual.host.org) work with > SSL. > > Certainly there is something I am missing. > > Using Webmin, I discovered that there is the "ssl" directory where the > "_default_:443" virtual host is defined. > > What do I have to do in order to set any other of my Virtual Hosts to > accept SSL connection ? > > Thanks a lot. > Best regards > > /stefano > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
I've installed momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm blowed if I can find it , any suggestions ? John Miark wrote: Fire up rpmdrake, search for mozilla-1.4 and read through the descriptions of the results. You'll probably want plugger and firebird. Miark On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:36:59 +, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Restored Mozilla 1.4 with a complete headlist and urpmi update reinstall. This time I downloaded the lot first then installing them to build the package. Texstar has, mozilla-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-flash-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mozilla-java-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm mmozilla-mail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm which speak for themselves, but what do these all do, mozilla-devel-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm Can I just install them , won't break anything will it ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
If you feel you "need" a gui program as root. Open a terminal as a user, type "su", enter the root password, then type the name of the program "konqueror" etc. On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:46:31 -0500 Cornerstone Community Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Generally, DO NOT log in as root. > For admin tasks, go to a root terminal. > When you run "Mandrake Control Center" or other GUI admin type functions you > will be prompted for root password. > > > On Monday 28 July 2003 11:12 am, fifner the dragon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log "user" in at startup. > > > > When I logout "user" I get a small box giving me three alternatives: halt, > > reboot and a "user" icon. > > > > I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as > > root. > > > > How do I login as root? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Fifner > > > -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does mandrakeUpdate really work?
On Monday 28 July 2003 01:37 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:03:48 -0500 > > Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It started the run and > > indicated that the package was not compiled for my kernel, did I want > > the installer to compile Nvidia for my kernel? I chose OK and so it > > did. Rebooted when done and my xserver was back on line > > After installation of the nvidia run > verify your XF86Config-4 is correct > # modprobe nvidia > use Xtart or # init 5 to launch X > no need to reboot. > > > Charles Right, I forgot that, naturally the easy way. I checked the XF86Config-4 before running and it was right, so only thing I could think of was that the NVIDIA-Linux file was not seen in the new kernel. I should of thought of using Civileme's Xtart after the compile, since I had installed it, but still have the reboot junk stuck in my head even after 4+ years of linux. Hard habit to break? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update packages
Marco Verheul wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 14:26, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: Hi, I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake Control Center). When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? Marco Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC ? It's not that obvious how your supposed to do that in MCC. But cannot you simply cd to directory in a terminal and then proceed to urpmi ,enter> I guess not ? John John, I suppose you're right! urpmi does take care of updates, dependencies etc. doesn't it. I'll give it try. Marco I would certainly like it to work because I cannot be certain of a continuous uninterrupted download which makes urpmi on the net a hazardous business and because this way I download the packages just the once. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does mandrakeUpdate really work?
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:03:48 -0500 Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It started the run and > indicated that the package was not compiled for my kernel, did I want > the installer to compile Nvidia for my kernel? I chose OK and so it > did. Rebooted when done and my xserver was back on line After installation of the nvidia run verify your XF86Config-4 is correct # modprobe nvidia use Xtart or # init 5 to launch X no need to reboot. Charles -- The Battle of Koom Valley is the only one known to history where both sides ambushed each other. (Men at Arms) - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21.6mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:47 pm, Michael Adams wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:10:09 -0700 > > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Isn't it easier to simply suppress popups (Moz) or use smart > > > denial of popups (Konq)? > > > > For popups that is probably true, assuming you are using moz or > > konq. > > > > But this was for ads that don't popup. > > Some sites i go to have flashy ads that make page scrolling jumpy > > just because the animation is running. > > Also, it's nicer to read pages w/o the ads cluttering it up. > > > > eric > > I actually wondered about blocking requests from HTML to servers > other than the page originator. This would break some sites, but i > wonder how many of those sites i want to see anyways. It would work > something like this. > > I follow a link> HTTP page request (server details noted) > page comes in < HTTP page delivery > browser renders HTML > HTML code requests a graphic/etc > >> HTTP request to noted server approved > > -HTTP request to any other server dropped > > > My guess is it could only be implimented on the browser itself. Be > one hell of a security feature though, less than half the cookies, > and speed up surfing no end. Unless I misunderstand you, this is just what Mozilla offers. I used to use it in Netscape, but now I find that using that disables on-line banking and too many other useful sites are broken. I've compromised and use the blocks on a site-by-site basis. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
I suspect a mispost error originating between the keyboard and seat. LOL On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:03:20 -0400 "Lanman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a tad off-topic?? > > Lanman > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: > > >In general, we know far too little about them. > >(i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically) > >I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US. > >They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food & drug admin.). > >BUT... > >they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is > >mostly > >guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know. > >WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods > >of of > >plant breeding... > >In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON > >hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next > >years > >crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import > >expensive hybrids. > >In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to "heirloom" > >varities. > >This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called "stripey"...it is yellow > >with > >stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a > >couple > >of weeks:) > >Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a > >given year. > >Keith > > -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
On Monday 28 July 2003 01:25 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 11:12 am, fifner the dragon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log "user" in at startup. > > > > When I logout "user" I get a small box giving me three alternatives: > > halt, reboot and a "user" icon. > > > > I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as > > root. > > > > How do I login as root? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Fifner > > Fifner, where ya been, long time since we've seen the name on the list. > Anyway, if you absolutely have to log in as root, and you know that's bad, > open up the KDE control center and select System>loginmanager>users and > you should see that root has a check in the box for hidden user. So click > on the admin mode box below and give it your root passwd and uncheck the > box. Next time login will show root user. HTH ( hope your using KDE > otherwise I haven't figured out the cli way of doing this.) Hello, When I got to the logon GUI, I CTRL-SHIFT-ESCed (or c-s-del, I can never remember what it is) out of x, logged on as root, then ran 'startx.' Jim. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
On Monday 28 July 2003 11:12 am, fifner the dragon wrote: > Hi all, > > I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log "user" in at startup. > > When I logout "user" I get a small box giving me three alternatives: halt, > reboot and a "user" icon. > > I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as > root. > > How do I login as root? > > Thanks in advance, > > Fifner Fifner, where ya been, long time since we've seen the name on the list. Anyway, if you absolutely have to log in as root, and you know that's bad, open up the KDE control center and select System>loginmanager>users and you should see that root has a check in the box for hidden user. So click on the admin mode box below and give it your root passwd and uncheck the box. Next time login will show root user. HTH ( hope your using KDE otherwise I haven't figured out the cli way of doing this.) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mbr question
Hello, You might want to look at the "Linux+Win9x+Grub HOWTO." I have been trying to use a CD that seems to offer the promise of installing Window$ NT (mostly to see if it would work). Since I already have ML9.1 installed and don't really want to mess it up, I decided to carve out a third primary partition at the end of my hard disk, and see what could be done. The HOWTO purports to teach one how to install the Win OS on something other that the beginning of the hard drive, but make GRUB fool it into thinking that it is [with lines such as "map (hd0,2) (hd0,0)." The CD that I have used to install NT writes a bunch of files to disk, then instructs you to reboot, at which point the installation is supposed to continue, but I can't seem to get beyond this point (any suggestions or explanations would be welcome). At any rate, I don't lay claim to any kind of expertise (I don't even know what "BR" means), but this how to, and the grub info page (especially the 'map' commands). The grub info also says, however, that some OAS might use special drivers that would make this mapping irrelevant. Smells like Win to me :^( ) In the hope that this isn't wholly irrelevant, Jim. On Sunday 27 July 2003 01:46 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > Here was a response i got about this awhile ago. Doesn't help you too > much, but it's a data point. > Hopefully someone else will have a better answer. > > eric > > > > I have also run XP in > > > another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it > > > has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out > > > destruction. > > > > Is it "safe" to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would > > reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). > > XP seems to understand partitions. 98 likes to take the whole drive.. > I've had some luck doing a repair... not much... but some, with 98. > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:06:11 -0400 > > crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i know that in order for the mbr to be rewritten properly by linux in > > a dual boot system, the ms-win OS of choice must be installed before > > doing a linux install. but if i go and format out my ms-win OS and > > reinstall it (i'm using win98), will the mbr be rewritten and i won't > > be able to get back into linux? and if that does happen, how do i get > > the mbr re-written so i can access linux again? i've been looking for > > an answer to this but can't seem to find it, and win98 needs to be > > re-installed as i'm having massive problems with it. (and i wish i > > could make this a microsoft free computer, but currently i can't) > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: ad blocking
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:10:09 -0700 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't it easier to simply suppress popups (Moz) or use smart denial of > > popups (Konq)? > > For popups that is probably true, assuming you are using moz or konq. > > But this was for ads that don't popup. > Some sites i go to have flashy ads that make page scrolling jumpy just > because the animation is running. > Also, it's nicer to read pages w/o the ads cluttering it up. > > eric > > I actually wondered about blocking requests from HTML to servers other than the page originator. This would break some sites, but i wonder how many of those sites i want to see anyways. It would work something like this. I follow a link> HTTP page request (server details noted) page comes in < HTTP page delivery browser renders HTML HTML code requests a graphic/etc > HTTP request to noted server approved -HTTP request to any other server dropped My guess is it could only be implimented on the browser itself. Be one hell of a security feature though, less than half the cookies, and speed up surfing no end. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
Uh, Nope! But I'll take your word for it! Thought maybe someone had made an honest mistake and posted to the wrong list. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/28/2003 at 8:48 AM Aron Smith wrote: >On Monday 28 July 2003 08:03 am, Lanman wrote: >> Just a tad off-topic?? >> >> Lanman >** Not Really Havent you heard that "The only "Good Things in Life are >True >Love N' Homegrowm Tomaters"? :-> >> >> *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** >> >> On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: >> >In general, we know far too little about them. >> >(i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically) >> >I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US. >> >They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food & drug admin.). >> >BUT... >> >they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is >> >mostly >> >guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know. >> >WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods >> >of of >> >plant breeding... >> >In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON >> >hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next >> >years >> >crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import >> >expensive hybrids. >> >In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to "heirloom" >> >varities. >> >This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called "stripey"...it is yellow >> >with >> >stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a >> >couple >> >of weeks:) >> >Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate >in a >> >given year. >> >Keith >> > >> > >> >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >> >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does mandrakeUpdate really work?
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:02 am, Avi Schwartz wrote: > No, it is fresh 9.1 install and my first Mandrake install so I don't > have left overs from 9.0. > > Avi > > On Monday, Jul 28, 2003, at 01:47 America/Chicago, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Monday 28 Jul 2003 5:03 am, Avi Schwartz wrote: > >> I ftpd into the site and I can see the rpm in there. However, and be > >> warned that I have no clue a to what I am doing, the synthesis.hdlist > >> file shows only 2.4.21.0.13 and not 2.4.21.0.25. Can this be the > >> problem? > > > > Have you upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1? If so the urpmi sources need fixing, > > or they will still be looking at 9.0. ISTR this is what I saw before I > > fixed them. For those who have not done the kernel upgrade and have a Nvidia video card you will probably need to do the install of the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run package. The way I did it was to start the system with the new kernel, it would not give me an xserver, naturally, so I logged in as my user and the did su and the root password. Then changed directories to where the .run file was and typed the "sh NVIDIA-Linux*" command. It started the run and indicated that the package was not compiled for my kernel, did I want the installer to compile Nvidia for my kernel? I chose OK and so it did. Rebooted when done and my xserver was back on line. Nice feature Nvidia threw in there and I didn't know it could do that. Just a heads up for the Nvidia card crowd. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
or perhaps the announcement of OSE (open source edibles) --- Original Message --- From: Cornerstone Community Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods >> With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? >> This is a linux list. > >1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to >this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. >2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: >The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but >we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. >:) > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
Generally, DO NOT log in as root. For admin tasks, go to a root terminal. When you run "Mandrake Control Center" or other GUI admin type functions you will be prompted for root password. On Monday 28 July 2003 11:12 am, fifner the dragon wrote: > Hi all, > > I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log "user" in at startup. > > When I logout "user" I get a small box giving me three alternatives: halt, > reboot and a "user" icon. > > I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as > root. > > How do I login as root? > > Thanks in advance, > > Fifner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Signutures
Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 08:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:19 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:51 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:03 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:58 pm, Aron Smith wrote: Any body know why the cryptographic keys are not found for so many packages from mandrake lately? Do you have texstars rpms loaded as a source? Could be you don't have his sig on file. Just guessing ** Yes I set up texstar with urpmi so then you probably do need to import his key to your computer, but I am sorry I can't tell you how to do that, somebody jump in here, I'm going to bed. HTH and luck, To install Texstars key just follow the instructions on Texstars site. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/gpgkey.html derek So I did, I downloaded the keys, but, GPG Key Instructions Rpmdrake requires the maker of the rpm to sign their rpms. Here is how to download and install my gpg key. Download my pubring.gpg key for Linux Mandrake 9.1 Drop to the console and su to root. Type: gpg --import pubring.gpg Thats it! Now when installing my rpms via rpmdrake you will no longer get invalid or not signed warnings. Texstar [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: can't open `pubring.gpg': No such file or directory gpg: Total number processed: 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# I tried cd to directory ,gpg-keys,and did the same, but that didn't work. Iwould guess that the keys have to go somewhere not stipulated, and then run the command, but if so where ? John John, if you know where the file pubring.gpg is, then navigate to that file in konqueror and check the file permissions and also look at the size. If it is 0 bytes then a fresh d/l is called for. Here is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documents]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: key 9B4A4024: "MandrakeSoft (MandrakeSoft official keys) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 22458A98: "Linux Mandrake Security Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 70771FF3: "Mandrake Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 8765ACFD: public key "texstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported gpg: Total number processed: 4 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: unchanged: 3 So the last thing is make sure you are in the folder that the pubring.gpg got downloaded into, cause it looks like you are in root folder and not in your user folder where the download probably put it. HTH Yep, your right, silly mistake on my part, two directories of similar name inwhich i thought I was at the final file, when it was the folder above. Thanks for your help. Slowly some of the fog is clearing. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to apply a mozilla theme?
On Monday 28 July 2003 18:24, fifner the dragon wrote: > Hi, > > I tried getting a sky pilot theme for mozilla. It even asked me if I wanted > to use this theme. But when I restarted mozilla there was still no option > but modern and classic. > > How do I apply a mozilla theme? > > Thanks in advance, > > Fifner In general you just download 'em and they install themselves. Be aware of the releases and screen settings. I.e. If you've got 1.3 usually you will not be able to use the 1.2 themes etc. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] how to apply a mozilla theme?
Hi, I tried getting a sky pilot theme for mozilla. It even asked me if I wanted to use this theme. But when I restarted mozilla there was still no option but modern and classic. How do I apply a mozilla theme? Thanks in advance, Fifner -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:02 pm, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: > In general, we know far too little about them. Posted to the wrong list, perhaps? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does mandrakeUpdate really work?
Thank you everyone for your help regarding the update of the kernel. It does make sense that the kernel should not be updated but rather be installed as a new package. What made me assume that the new kernel should show up as an update is the following sentence from the advisory (http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA- 2003:066-2): "To upgrade automatically, use MandrakeUpdate." which is apparently wrong. Avi On Monday, Jul 28, 2003, at 06:09 America/Chicago, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 03:22 am, Avi Schwartz wrote: I currently have on my system kernel-2.4.21.0.13 installed. When I am running mandrakeUpdate it tells me there are no updates yet I know that kernel 2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1 is available as a security fix. Why doesn't it tell me there is an update? Avi Because kernels must not be *upgraded*. They must be *installed*. If you try to upgrade a kernel, it will destroy your system. That's why Mandrake removed the opportunity to *upgrade* kernels via the Control Center. If you want the new kernel, do as follows : Download the kernel-whatsoever.rpm to some directory of your choice, for example /home/avi/downloads. Change into that directory, su into root and then run : urpmi kernel-*whatever*.rpm This will install the new kernel. That done, edit your /etc/lilo.conf to make the new kernel the default one. You can do that from the Command Center under the Boot-option or simply edit it by hand. Remember to run *lilo* (as root) when you have saved the new /etc/lilo.conf. Finally, re-boot and if everything is OK you can simly remove the old kernel entries in /boot, although that's not necessary. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] best way of updating software
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:32 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > 1) It is safe to do the urpmi.cron if you do not have a "cooker" > source in your list of update sources. Texstars rpms are not cooker > per se but set up to install on the latest mandrake version. He has > them tidied up to stop conflicts etc. (that is how I understand > what he does) > > 2) "cooker" is the developement side of Mandrake. The rpm's in > cooker are for testing to make sure that dependencies and file > calls etc, are satisfied. Cooker is the bleeding edge of > developement and you should not use it if you don't do testing or > programming. That is the safe thing to do. > You will not have the cooker source in your list unless you have put it there yourself - and you won't have done that by accident, so you should be fine. > 3) Yes this list is for "newbies". You just have to hang in there > and keep coming back for clarifications. It is very hard to tell > the degree of expertise that new folks have when they first come to > the list. Answers are put forth assuming that the questioner has a > level of expertise that may not be true and you just have to keep > asking questions. Read the "Man" files and google and ask here. If > you are new to linux and or unix it will seem very cryptic for a > while, but slowly the light will dawn and you to will be answering > newbie questions. HTH When I started reading it was clear to me that some were light years ahead of what I know - some still are - but Dennis is right - keep reading and it will gradually start to make sense. Nobody minds how often you come back for clarification, just make your questions clear so that we're not answering the wrong thing. I would suggest, too, that you keep a scrap book, say copy and paste into your favourite text editor/word processor, of the things that look as though they could be useful to you 'when you get a round tuit'. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
Hi all, I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log "user" in at startup. When I logout "user" I get a small box giving me three alternatives: halt, reboot and a "user" icon. I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as root. How do I login as root? Thanks in advance, Fifner -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
> With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? > This is a linux list. 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MP3 Sound Problems
CD player works fine Alunix enabled Kaboodle will give me No sound Boo Hoo wanted to hear "Moose Turd Pie" :-( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Apache 2, virtual hosts and SSL
I am running MDK 9.1 with Apache 2. I have multiple Virtual hosts, all described in the vhosts/Vhosts.conf file. Unfortunately, SSL only works with https://localhost/ . None of the other alias (https://mymachine.madomain.net/ , https://myvirtual.host.org/ , https://othervirtual.host.org) work with SSL. Certainly there is something I am missing. Using Webmin, I discovered that there is the "ssl" directory where the "_default_:443" virtual host is defined. What do I have to do in order to set any other of my Virtual Hosts to accept SSL connection ? Thanks a lot. Best regards /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare
Title: Message Does it hang at the start of VMware, or when you are starting Mandrake? What are the message's you are getting. What cpu on the laptop? Tony. -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare I forgot to tell that I'm using a Laptop with 160Mb, 64Mb on VMware, with win2000 installed. On the VMware I'm using 64Mb and bridged networking. Best Regards, José Carlos Silva -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: segunda-feira, 28 de Julho de 2003 11:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare It hangs on the beginning.You can see the two messages it appear when I restart VMWare. I'm using a Laptop with 160Mb memory, using 64Mb in VMware with bridged network. I don't know if this information is enough. Thanks, on advance for your help. Best Regards, José Carlos Silva -Original Message-From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: sexta-feira, 25 de Julho de 2003 13:33To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare Where does it hang, when I installed it, it was fine. What are your system specs? What are the vmware system setting? Tony. -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Install on VMWare I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on VMWare 3 but all the time hangs. Can you help me Beste Regards, José Carlos Silva ***Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimesweeper.comMAILsweeper - Modulo da suite MIMEsweeper, solucao de filtragem de conteudos comercializada pela Compta SA.A Compta SA detem o mais alto nivel de especializacao MIMEsweeper, tendo sido reconhecida pela Clearswift como Premier Partner.***This message is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent.If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please notify Compta by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting the sender and delete the message and any attached documents.This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for Content Security threats, including computer viruses*** -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com***Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimeswee
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:03 am, Lanman wrote: > Just a tad off-topic?? > > Lanman ** Not Really Havent you heard that "The only "Good Things in Life are True Love N' Homegrowm Tomaters"? :-> > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: > >In general, we know far too little about them. > >(i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically) > >I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US. > >They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food & drug admin.). > >BUT... > >they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is > >mostly > >guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know. > >WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods > >of of > >plant breeding... > >In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON > >hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next > >years > >crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import > >expensive hybrids. > >In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to "heirloom" > >varities. > >This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called "stripey"...it is yellow > >with > >stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a > >couple > >of weeks:) > >Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a > >given year. > >Keith > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla1.4 packages
Fire up rpmdrake, search for mozilla-1.4 and read through the descriptions of the results. You'll probably want plugger and firebird. Miark On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:36:59 +, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Restored Mozilla 1.4 with a complete headlist and urpmi update reinstall. > This time I downloaded the lot first then installing them to build the > package. > > > Texstar has, > mozilla-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-flash-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > mozilla-java-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > mmozilla-mail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > momozilla-spellchecker-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586.rpm > > which speak for themselves, > > but what do these all do, > > mozilla-devel-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm > mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm > > > Can I just install them , won't break anything will it ? > > John > > > -- > John Richard Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] best way of updating software
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 8:25 pm, charo wrote: > this is a long history that I will try to make shorter, but please don't > piss me off. Linux is though enough for a brand new linux user like me. > > Following someone suggestions from de list I added a cron.daily file > urpmi.cron, with the content that follows: > > #!/bin/sh > urpmi.update -a > urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpms > > I thought I was really smart having this feature in my box when someone > in the list wasn't sure that updating from "cooker" was a good idea. > Literally to me cooker was a cooking pot, so I didn't even realize what > I was going into. OK, after that I was still having the PGP signature > problems and I used another tip from this list (Subject: Bad > signatures) and I follow that reference: > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/gpgkey.html > > The problem is that I'm still having troubles with bad signatures. My > questions, I guess, are: > 1) Is it safe to do that urpmi.cron in a box for real work, not for > testing? Am I really using cooker in that file? > 2) Could anybody give me 2 lines info about cooker and how to stay away > from it when updating packages? > 3) Are you sure this list is for brand new linux newbiers? I read > almost all messages and I feel I'm getting so much partial info that I > can see the big picture. > > Any advice will be apreciated. > Rosario The best way to avoid cooker is to not have cooker defined as a urpmi source. Your software source manager in Mandrake Control Centre will show you a list of defined sources. May I suggest one change to your script. You currently have 'urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpms' which is going to automatically install the latest version of any package available on any of the sources. Some of the online sources such as Texstar contain the very latest bleeding edge versions of packages. Occasionally these are 'broken'. So you could wake up one day to discover something important no longer works. I prefer to use urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpms --update This will only automatically update packages from sources tagged as 'update media' when you added them. So any official Mandrake update will take place automatically, while new Texstar and PLF packages can wait until I am ready for them. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring Samba
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 12:50 pm, David Middlebrook wrote: > I have a small home LAN running through a Netgear RP114 DSL/Cable > Router, my PC is running Mandrake 9.1 and the other computers are a Mac > OS/X, Win/XP and Win 98. The router is providing DHCP and the printer is > connected to the Linux computer. All I want to provide is access for > these non-Linux computers to the printer. The other computers are not > set up with userids and passwords as they are single user machines. When > I go to DrakXServices it is starting smb on boot so the smbd and nmbd > daemons are installed. > > Can anyone advise what to do next or point me to some documentation that > will help me get this working? > > TIA > Dave The default samba configuration will do as you want 'out of the box'. All you need change is the workgroup name in your /etc/samba.smb.conf file. If you prefer using a GUI install the drakwizard RPM and then your Mandrake Control Centre will have a new entry for a Samba server wizard which will make the edit for you. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GMO foods
In general, we know far too little about them. (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically) I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US. They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food & drug admin.). BUT... they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is mostly guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know. WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods of of plant breeding... In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next years crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import expensive hybrids. In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to "heirloom" varities. This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called "stripey"...it is yellow with stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a couple of weeks:) Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a given year. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD writing software
El Lun 28 Jul 2003 06:34, Geert Stichelmans escribió: > Hi everyone, > But now I wanna try to copy a DVD. Is there DVD-copy software available > for linux? > Anyone has experience with copying DVD's under linux? > What I'm really looking for is an easy way (gui or command line) to > create an image of a dvd-disc, put it on my harddisk, and burn it on a > DVD+R or DVD-R. > > Thanks, > > Geert. Try xcdroast (www.xcdroast.org) And to extract dvd files (vob), try vobcopy (vobcopy dev/hd?). Suerte -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.1 Núcleo multimedia 2.4.21-0.16 10:11:08 up 41 min, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update packages
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:26 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > Aron Smith wrote: > >On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my > >>current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is > >>known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake > >>Control Center). > >> > >>When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates > >>from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. > >> > >>How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? > >> > >>Marco > > > >Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC > > ? > > It's not that obvious how your supposed to do that in MCC. > > But cannot you simply cd to directory in a > terminal and then proceed to urpmi ,enter> > > I guess not ? > > John Yes you can, that is a perfectly acceptable way of doing it. You can download a whole bunch of files into a directory, and then to install them do "urpmi *.rpm" and that will install all of them or list dependencies that you don't have covered. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Signutures
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > Derek Jennings wrote: > >On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:19 am, Dennis Myers wrote: > >>On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:51 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > >>>On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:03 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:58 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > >Any body know why the cryptographic keys are not found for so many > >packages from mandrake lately? > > Do you have texstars rpms loaded as a source? Could be you don't have > his sig on file. Just guessing > >>> > >>>** Yes I set up texstar with urpmi > >> > >>so then you probably do need to import his key to your computer, but I am > >>sorry I can't tell you how to do that, somebody jump in here, I'm going > >> to bed. HTH and luck, > > > >To install Texstars key just follow the instructions on Texstars site. > >http://www.pclinuxonline.com/gpgkey.html > > > >derek > > So I did, > I downloaded the keys, but, > > GPG Key Instructions > > > > Rpmdrake requires the maker of the rpm to sign their rpms. Here is how > to download > and install my gpg key. > > Download my pubring.gpg key for Linux Mandrake 9.1 > > Drop to the console and su to root. > > Type: gpg --import pubring.gpg > > > Thats it! Now when installing my rpms via rpmdrake you will no longer > get invalid > or not signed warnings. > > Texstar > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# gpg --import pubring.gpg > gpg: can't open `pubring.gpg': No such file or directory > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# > > I tried cd to directory ,gpg-keys,and did the same, but that didn't work. > > Iwould guess that the keys have to go somewhere not stipulated, and then > run the command, but if so where ? > > John John, if you know where the file pubring.gpg is, then navigate to that file in konqueror and check the file permissions and also look at the size. If it is 0 bytes then a fresh d/l is called for. Here is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documents]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: key 9B4A4024: "MandrakeSoft (MandrakeSoft official keys) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 22458A98: "Linux Mandrake Security Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 70771FF3: "Mandrake Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 8765ACFD: public key "texstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported gpg: Total number processed: 4 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: unchanged: 3 So the last thing is make sure you are in the folder that the pubring.gpg got downloaded into, cause it looks like you are in root folder and not in your user folder where the download probably put it. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] best way of updating software
this is a long history that I will try to make shorter, but please don't piss me off. Linux is though enough for a brand new linux user like me. Following someone suggestions from de list I added a cron.daily file urpmi.cron, with the content that follows: #!/bin/sh urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpms I thought I was really smart having this feature in my box when someone in the list wasn't sure that updating from "cooker" was a good idea. Literally to me cooker was a cooking pot, so I didn't even realize what I was going into. OK, after that I was still having the PGP signature problems and I used another tip from this list (Subject: Bad signatures) and I follow that reference: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/gpgkey.html The problem is that I'm still having troubles with bad signatures. My questions, I guess, are: 1) Is it safe to do that urpmi.cron in a box for real work, not for testing? Am I really using cooker in that file? 2) Could anybody give me 2 lines info about cooker and how to stay away from it when updating packages? 3) Are you sure this list is for brand new linux newbiers? I read almost all messages and I feel I'm getting so much partial info that I can see the big picture. Any advice will be apreciated. Rosario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about > > aumix not running. > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to make my > > sound work for my first install (the second time i installed it > > worked from the start...): > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > > non-zero). > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: > > the sliders all go to zero) > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back > > to non-zero values) > > 4. Save settings > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute > > > All, and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on > > > again. I unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started it again and > > > it was ckecked again. Went round and round with aumix with no > > > luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour > > > glass just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure > > > sound? > > > > > > mike > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and alsamixser. When > either is run I get the following: > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > mike What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update packages
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 14:26, John Richard Smith wrote: > Aron Smith wrote: > > >On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my > >>current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is > >>known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake > >>Control Center). > >> > >>When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates > >>from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. > >> > >>How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? > >> > >>Marco > >> > >> > >Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC ? > > > > > > > It's not that obvious how your supposed to do that in MCC. > > But cannot you simply cd to directory in a > terminal and then proceed to urpmi ,enter> > > I guess not ? > > John John, I suppose you're right! urpmi does take care of updates, dependencies etc. doesn't it. I'll give it try. Marco -- Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare
Title: Message I forgot to tell that I'm using a Laptop with 160Mb, 64Mb on VMware, with win2000 installed. On the VMware I'm using 64Mb and bridged networking. Best Regards, José Carlos Silva -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: segunda-feira, 28 de Julho de 2003 11:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare It hangs on the beginning.You can see the two messages it appear when I restart VMWare. I'm using a Laptop with 160Mb memory, using 64Mb in VMware with bridged network. I don't know if this information is enough. Thanks, on advance for your help. Best Regards, José Carlos Silva -Original Message-From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: sexta-feira, 25 de Julho de 2003 13:33To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare Where does it hang, when I installed it, it was fine. What are your system specs? What are the vmware system setting? Tony. -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Install on VMWare I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on VMWare 3 but all the time hangs. Can you help me Beste Regards, José Carlos Silva ***Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimesweeper.comMAILsweeper - Modulo da suite MIMEsweeper, solucao de filtragem de conteudos comercializada pela Compta SA.A Compta SA detem o mais alto nivel de especializacao MIMEsweeper, tendo sido reconhecida pela Clearswift como Premier Partner.***This message is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent.If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please notify Compta by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting the sender and delete the message and any attached documents.This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for Content Security threats, including computer viruses*** -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com***Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimesweeper.comMAILsweeper - Modulo da suite MIMEsweeper, solucao de filtragem de conteudos comercializada pela Compta SA.A Compta SA detem o mais alto nivel de especializacao MIMEsweeper, tendo sido reconhecida pela Clearswift como Premier Partner.***This message is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent.If you are not the inte
Re: [newbie] update packages
Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: Hi, I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake Control Center). When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? Marco Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC ? It's not that obvious how your supposed to do that in MCC. But cannot you simply cd to directory in a terminal and then proceed to urpmi ,enter> I guess not ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] update packages
Title: RE: [newbie] update packages I use a directory 'in/RPM' in my home directory to store incomming RPMs. I've added a source in 'Software Sources Manager': Type of sourece: Local Path: /home/msabin/in/RPM Then when I run 'Install Software' I choose to see packages "by repository" and there are my uninstalled downloads waiting to go. Is there a more elegant way? I came up with this scheme while in a hurry, and never bothered to work out another method. --Matthew -Original Message- From: Marco Verheul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] update packages Hi, I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake Control Center). When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? Marco -- Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *
Re: [newbie] update packages
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 12:56, Aron Smith wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my > > current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is > > known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake > > Control Center). > > > > When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates > > from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. > > > > How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? > > > > Marco > Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC ? > > Yes I have. And I did not forget to update that particular source either. Marco -- Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Signutures
Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 09:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: can't open `pubring.gpg': No such file or directory gpg: Total number processed: 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# I tried cd to directory ,gpg-keys,and did the same, but that didn't work. Iwould guess that the keys have to go somewhere not stipulated, and then run the command, but if so where ? This is a classic pathing problem. It can't find the file pubring.gpg. Where did you download texstar pubring.gpg file to. If not in the current directory, you have to include the directory path to the file. Bingo = [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol6/downloads2/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/gpgkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpgkey]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: key 9B4A4024: "MandrakeSoft (MandrakeSoft official keys) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 22458A98: "Linux Mandrake Security Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 70771FF3: "Mandrake Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 8765ACFD: public key "texstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported gpg: Total number processed: 4 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: unchanged: 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpgkey]# so that has taken care of texstars gpgkeys, good, thank you Greg. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does mandrakeUpdate really work?
No, it is fresh 9.1 install and my first Mandrake install so I don't have left overs from 9.0. Avi On Monday, Jul 28, 2003, at 01:47 America/Chicago, Richard Urwin wrote: On Monday 28 Jul 2003 5:03 am, Avi Schwartz wrote: I ftpd into the site and I can see the rpm in there. However, and be warned that I have no clue a to what I am doing, the synthesis.hdlist file shows only 2.4.21.0.13 and not 2.4.21.0.25. Can this be the problem? Have you upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1? If so the urpmi sources need fixing, or they will still be looking at 9.0. ISTR this is what I saw before I fixed them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update packages
On Monday 28 July 2003 06:50 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded the latest Evolution form Tekstar and i want to update my > current version withthe new rpm. It's in my download directory that is > known as one of the sources in the Software Sources Manager (Mandrake > Control Center). > > When I choose to update software it seems that only available updates > from a mirror site are shown, not the sources on my own machine. > > How can i update using my downloaded rpm's? > > Marco Do you have your download directory configured as a software source in MCC ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Signutures
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# gpg --import pubring.gpg > gpg: can't open `pubring.gpg': No such file or directory > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# > > I tried cd to directory ,gpg-keys,and did the same, but that didn't work. > > Iwould guess that the keys have to go somewhere not stipulated, and then > run the command, but if so where ? This is a classic pathing problem. It can't find the file pubring.gpg. Where did you download texstar pubring.gpg file to. If not in the current directory, you have to include the directory path to the file. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome recent open documents
Hi Stephen, I've think you have just cross the fine line between polite lying and outright sarcasm! Before anyone sorts to flame,that's was the laugh I need after a truly crap 12 hour night shift. Drew - Original Message - From: "Stephen Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mandrake Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Gnome recent open documents > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 00:27, DrewMartin wrote: > > Hi all, > > How do remove the list of recently open documents from the Gnome > > start menu? > > I'm using 2.2 with MDK 9.1 > > It's a "One Step" process. > > 1st step: remove Gnome > > -- > Mon Jul 28 08:55:00 EST 2003 > 08:55:00 up 14 days, 58 min, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.10, 0.09 > - > |____ |kuhn media australia| > | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | > | .\__/ || | | || > | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| > | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > - > linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 > Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 > - > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > > A screwdriver will always slip when in the proximity of painted surfaces--Law of Centrifugal Malfeasance > -- Assembly General Shefields Corollaries n6 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gtk-gnutella
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:36 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > Hi all, > > What's the story on gtk-gnutella? I just downloaded it from Texstar and > it seems to function quite well out of the box. I didn't download > anything yet though. A bit scared form the stories about Kazaa... > > Are there anything i really should pay attention to when i start using > it? > > Marco I never could get good results with Gnutella. I started using mldonkey and its worked just fine. YMMV. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Signutures
Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 28 Jul 2003 6:19 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:51 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:03 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:58 pm, Aron Smith wrote: Any body know why the cryptographic keys are not found for so many packages from mandrake lately? Do you have texstars rpms loaded as a source? Could be you don't have his sig on file. Just guessing ** Yes I set up texstar with urpmi so then you probably do need to import his key to your computer, but I am sorry I can't tell you how to do that, somebody jump in here, I'm going to bed. HTH and luck, To install Texstars key just follow the instructions on Texstars site. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/gpgkey.html derek So I did, I downloaded the keys, but, GPG Key Instructions Rpmdrake requires the maker of the rpm to sign their rpms. Here is how to download and install my gpg key. Download my pubring.gpg key for Linux Mandrake 9.1 Drop to the console and su to root. Type: gpg --import pubring.gpg Thats it! Now when installing my rpms via rpmdrake you will no longer get invalid or not signed warnings. Texstar [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# gpg --import pubring.gpg gpg: can't open `pubring.gpg': No such file or directory gpg: Total number processed: 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# I tried cd to directory ,gpg-keys,and did the same, but that didn't work. Iwould guess that the keys have to go somewhere not stipulated, and then run the command, but if so where ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
