Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot
On Friday 25 March 2005 01:27 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:40 pm, Paul wrote: Op Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:35:23 -0800 schreef Aron Smith: Firefox will not open a link on slashdot has anyone else had this problem other sites seem to be ok Running 1.0.0. and I have no problems with it. ?? ditto. running 10.0 and no problems on slashdot either. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kpnqueror wouldn't launch in Mandrake 10.1
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:26 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: Hello: This is a simple question for you. My konqueror wouldn't launch and perhaps you can tell my why this can happen and possible fixes. Teilhard. I had a problem launching Konqueror-as-filemanager after I'd fiddled with the Konqueror-as-browser settings - got a spinning hourglass in the panel for thirty seconds and then nothing. I can't tell you exactly what I did to fix it (it is fixed now) but the fiddling with the browser settings is definitely what caused the problem (in my case). -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Games recommendation
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 12:55 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: I guess I'll have to browse from letter 'C' onward later. Using the mcc KDE/GNOME doesnt show the games. System configuration packaging install software workstation game station and from there you're on your own :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:39 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Dear Julie, Apologies for the Sir! I am certainly contacting your provider and thank you for your tip. Dear Malcolm, Apology not necessary and I in turn apologize for my grumpiness. Must have had a low BAC that day or something. Good luck with connecting to your new linux adventure. :) -- Julie On Monday 21 Mar 2005 21:08, Julie Sloan wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
On Monday 21 March 2005 03:04 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: Hello I found this URL to be useful for beginners who have some knowledge, but need a bit of guidance. http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan cool; and it's all on one page too. :) thanks -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Games recommendation
On Monday 21 March 2005 10:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, I've been browsing to the package available in mdk10.1, and I find many interesting packages once I click on them and read the description. Right now, I've just passed the packages start with 'b', phew..! I'm now installing many interesting games, such as adonthell, brutal, and.. many rpg like games I forgot the names :) Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress level? Thanks :) You don't have to browse by name; you can rearrange it by category. That way you can see all the games in one or two piles. :) I think they're under Graphical Desktop [then KDE, GNOME or OTHER] Games I like LBreakout, KBounce, Kolorlines, Gnotski Mahjong. KGoldrunner is like Super Mario Brothers GTali is like Yahtzee. I think some of these are in the KDE games package and or the Gnome games package. have fun -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] OpenGL stuff error messages
hi all. when I try to run OpenGL stuff (in this instance a screensaver, but other stuff too), I get a message like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] julie]$ xscreensaver-demo xscreensaver-gl-helper: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available (required by xscreensaver-gl-helper) Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 glknots: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available (required by glknots) Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 and the OpenGL stuff does not run on KDE, or on Gnome either. I installed Mandrake 10.0 off discs a while ago, and this problem began after I did the urpmi update. now, the message seems to be saying I am missing GL libraries, but in /usr/X11R6 I have: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Mar 12 22:45 libgle.so.3 - libgle.so.3 .1.0* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108104 Jul 10 2003 libgle.so.3.1.0* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mar 18 21:08 libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper .so.0.2.0* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 269360 Dec 7 2003 libGL.so.1.0* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 524048 Nov 5 10:39 libGL.so.1.2* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2016208 Dec 7 2003 libGL.so.1.4.502* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Mar 12 10:24 libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1 .3.502* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 568548 Dec 7 2003 libGLU.so.1.3.502* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Mar 12 10:25 libglut.so.3 - libglut.so .3.7.1* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 222352 Dec 7 2003 libglut.so.3.7.1* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 203680 Dec 7 2003 libGLwrapper.so.0.2.0* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 14 09:08 libGLw.so.1 - libGLw.so.1 .0* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22728 Nov 5 10:39 libGLw.so.1.0* I don't understand why it says it can't read the version information. I'm pretty sure it was something in the update that borked it, 'cause I did a reinstall off the discs and the OpenGL stuff worked again, just until I urpmi updated again. help? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:11 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: Yokay, thanks, I will remove rpm --rebuilddb command from my list and jsut do [rpm --updatedb update-menus -v ldconfig], right? You should not need to do any of those. (I am not sure where rpm --updatedb came from...) The update-menus is normally run by any package that adds/removes menu entries, so you should not need to run it yourself. The same for ldconfig when adding/removing libraries. I guess it doesn't hurt to run them, but it isn't really necessary ether. Now, running updatedb can be helpful if you use slocate. If not, then you can let the weekly cron job take care of it. thanks :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux command tutorial
On Friday 18 March 2005 06:15 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:32 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: They started after you left :) Hey! You know why in Alabama they don't teach ...oops, wrong list. Sure sure sure - just like a woman. Lead us all on and then drop us like a hot tater. Oh okay :) ...sex educattion and drivers' education on the same day? Punchline? I'm betting it's the same reason as in Northern Ontario... Oh, I forgot all about this. Uh, okay, punchline: both classes need the mule -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Says on Thacs page, Thac's RPMs for Mandrake Updated 2004-11-11 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux command tutorial
On Friday 18 March 2005 06:51 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 10:49, Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 06:15 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:32 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: They started after you left :) Hey! You know why in Alabama they don't teach ...oops, wrong list. Sure sure sure - just like a woman. Lead us all on and then drop us like a hot tater. Oh okay :) ...sex educattion and drivers' education on the same day? Punchline? I'm betting it's the same reason as in Northern Ontario... Oh, I forgot all about this. Uh, okay, punchline: both classes need the mule Julie, we're dealing with JoeHill here. THAT in itself would require that you explain the joke - from top to bottom - with foot notes, 8x10 full colour glossy photos with notes scribbled on the back of each explaining what each 8x10 full colour glossy photo was... Just saw that movie last week. Gobbless Netflix :) I bet we watched fifteen movies last month. Alice's Restaurant was cute, but it's not one that aged well. :( -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updates
On Friday 18 March 2005 07:02 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 11:00, Charles A Edwards wrote: Updated and new rpms for Mdk 10.1 Charles Dang...nothing ever for 10.0 again, eh Charles? I second that dang. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updates
On Friday 18 March 2005 08:22 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 11:20, Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 07:02 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 11:00, Charles A Edwards wrote: Updated and new rpms for Mdk 10.1 Charles Dang...nothing ever for 10.0 again, eh Charles? I second that dang. So that would be a Dang Dang. Dang dang -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 07:30 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 18:09, Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w =2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Says on Thacs page, Thac's RPMs for Mandrake Updated 2004-11-11 Did you scroll down the page to the subdirectories? KDE 3.4 has it's own subdirectory, try there? :-) Okay, thanks. :) -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updates
On Friday 18 March 2005 07:29 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:02:20 +1100 Stephen Kühn wrote: Dang...nothing ever for 10.0 again, eh Charles? Well the hd on my 10.1 system died and with the release of 10.2 coming soon I did not see the point of reinstalling 10.0 as the system will be changed to 10.1 when 10.2 is released. As well I really do not have the time to do updates for 3 Mdk releases. You just need to take a big drought of mash, bite the bullet and upgrade that box of yours (-: I second the mash :) So, since I have lots of room and empty partitions and all that, would it be feasible, practical, educational, destructive, or just plain stupid to have both 10.0 and 10.2 running on this box (along with nasty old WinXP) ? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum
On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:22 pm, Nicole Lewis wrote: I store emails to archives, then use a search tool to find things. I've been saving material for many years,and what comes out of that search is FAR better than ANYTHING that would come up in a single forum. MUCH better solution, IMHO. I've been storing snips into text files on general subjects, which is a little fiddly, but builds something compact and portable. I have yet to find how to access email folders, except via the software that set it up (currently Thunderbird on Win98) ... which can be a bit tragic when a winworm trashes the hard disc. Cannot go across to Linux until I get a modem sorted out, and so far have acquired 2 used external modems that appear to be catatonic. Nicole I am using a Best Data V.92 External on a dual boot Mandrake 10.0 and WinXP. It wasn't terribly expensive - about US$40 I think -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum
On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:45 am, SOTL wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:25, Josenildo Marques wrote: Third-world dial-up connection...? Does that mean that people in the so called third world only have that type of connection ? Isn't it a bit of prejudice on your side ? TTFN Hell man I live in a major US city with Verizon as the phone company and earthlink as the ISP and I only have 4th world service. Would love for Verizon to provide at least 3rd world but the chances of that are null and less than negative infinity. Heh. I went from 36.6Kbps in a major US city to 56Kbps in a minor US town and consider myself blessed. It'll be twenty years before we get DSL. :-\ -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] desktop shortcut
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 06:02 am, Graham wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 20:46, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Wednesday 16 Mar 2005 22:30, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 20:26, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Please ignore my first post. I went back to google and found another set of (easier for me as a newb) instructions. Have my icon, it works, and I am happy. cheers Rosemary Ah, but Grasshopper - are you TRULY happy...? Ah well - as Carl Sandburg says ... and sometimes you weep. But I AM happy that I got the icon sorted :-) Rosemary Last time I saw a happy Kiwi he was standing by the fence of a sheep station with all the sheep backed up to the fence...(bad bad bad joke) Shouldn't that be baaa-d baaa-d joke? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] linux command tutorial
I found a new-newbie oriented tutorial at http://www.linuxcommand.org/ which everyone here probably already knows about. But just in case some lurker doesn't, there's the link. I may not be pestering y'all with questions for a while. I'm busy reading. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux command tutorial
On Thursday 17 March 2005 04:52 pm, Mr. Geek wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: I found a new-newbie oriented tutorial at http://www.linuxcommand.org/ which everyone here probably already knows about. But just in case some lurker doesn't, there's the link. Julie, Thanks for the link. I've never heard of it myself, and it looks like it will be helpful in explaining some of the CLI commands and options. G knit a row, read a page, purl a row, read a page... I'm multitasking. Stephen Kühn wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: I may not be pestering y'all with questions for a while. I'm busy reading. Dang. Didn't know they taught reading in Kentucky. (http://linuxfordummies.org) They started after you left :) Hey! You know why in Alabama they don't teach ...oops, wrong list. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux command tutorial
On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:32 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 09:27, Julie Sloan wrote: Dang. Didn't know they taught reading in Kentucky. (http://linuxfordummies.org) They started after you left :) Hey! You know why in Alabama they don't teach ...oops, wrong list. Sure sure sure - just like a woman. Lead us all on and then drop us like a hot tater. Oh okay :) ...sex educattion and drivers' education on the same day? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 'nother optic mouse question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:02 pm, Chris wrote: I like the new Logitech optic mouse I got, however, for some reason on a whim it decides to jump to the bottom of the desktop and hide from me while I frantically move the mouse around until it shows up again. Its configured in MCC as any ps2 usb mouse, this was apparently autoseclected when I booted up after connecting it up. The mouse works fine except for this annoying habit it has. Anyone have any fixes or suggestions? Thanks Chris to find it again easily move it to the top left corner. :) this won't break the habit though, no -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 08:27 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: rpm --rebuilddb etc Not normaly needed. This is only if your database of installed RPMs gets corrupted. urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select rpm --rebuild, etc Again, this is not needed. It is a repair command, and not normal maintence. I figured any time I added or removed any number of programs (whether one or fifty) or changed media managers it wouldn't hurt to run the system refreshers. On a properly working system, you should never have to run rpm --rebuilddb. Yokay, thanks, I will remove rpm --rebuilddb command from my list and jsut do [rpm --updatedb update-menus -v ldconfig], right? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 10:09 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 03:24 am, Nicole Lewis wrote: Take a look at http://www.andyspares.com/discussionforum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3 Here, each thread is collated onto a single html page, which can include photos drawings, This is a classic debate, as good as vim vs emacs, gnome vs kde. Some people like web forums as you have stated the reasons for very well, I personally can't stand them because they are so slow. IMO, a ML with a good set of filters and a mail client that does proper message threading can't be beat and I will very rarely visit a web forum. Just my 2 cents. Mine also. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum
sorry nicole, I thought I was sending this to the list. :) -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum Date: Wednesday 16 March 2005 11:23 am From: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 17 March 2005 03:24 am, Nicole Lewis wrote: While daily deleting unopened a large percentage of newbie correspondencesnip Here, each thread is collated onto a single html page, which can include photos drawings, so that one can read the sequence of contributions without wading past a clutter of repeating material. It was a long time before I understood how to use filters and directories to my advantage. My system (on KMail), which is not perfect but is perfectly simple, goes something like this: if my name appears in a message, it stays in the inbox and filtering stops (this way I get replies to my comments, even if I've forgotten I commented on that thread) if a message comes from a certain mailing list, it gets sorted into that mailing list's folder, and filtering continues I have another filter (dump) which marks message read and moves it to the trash, to which I add the subject line of any thread I have absolutely no interest in (had seven threads in it at one time recently, coming from two seperate mailing lists) My inbox sorts message by date of arrival; my mailing list folders sort by thread. This way I can see quickly if I need to add a thread to my dump filter So far this has really helped manage the 300+ emails I get daily :) -- Julie --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] md5sum question
Somebody suggested that I add the --no-md5sum tag to urpmi.update -a and I don't remember what the reason for this is. Will someone explain? ty -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 02:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:31, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when a normal update gets interrupted the partial downloads seem to get stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial, and then the packages won't install because of these missing partials. What's the preferred way of dealing with this? I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again. Okay, thanks :) Even if what's in the partial directory are incomplete d/ls? like 6Mb of an 8Mb package, etc? Yes - it doesn't seem to matter. I'm not sure whether it completes the partials, or whether it starts again, but for certain the download and install completes and everything gets cleaned up. It's not happening here. Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then: rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean FWIW in /var/cache/urpmi/partial there is: OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-kopete-3.2-17.1.100mdk.i586.rpm cups-common-1.1.20-5.6.100mdk.i586.rpm Of the packages mentioned below, these are in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms: OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586 kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 (I am on Mdk10.0-official and I do have Charles Edwards set up as a media source.) what seems the course to take is rm the cups-drivers and the kdelibs-common files form /partial and once again urpmi --auto-select --no-md5sum, but if this is way wrong someone tell me please, before I do it :) thanks Julie To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (222 MB): OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586 kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (Unable to read rpm file) /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (Unable to read rpm file) Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm error: unable to install package /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm unable to install package /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed: hdr blob(396738): BAD, read returned 289160 error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed: hdr blob(135509): BAD, read returned 56968 Installation failed: OpenOffice.org-libs = 1:1.1.2-8.100mdk is needed by OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk Installation failed, some files are missing: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 01:06 am, Amy wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work, but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ thank you Amy I do have Charles set up as a source but I am running Mdk10.0 -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:34 am, Smiley wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:29:26 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not happening here. Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with urpmi.removemedia Have you tried to add a different mirror or is always the same? Try a different mirror each time -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:49 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms in which you can find 1.0.1 thank you, I'm adding norlug now :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:07 am, Mr. Geek wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: (I am on Mdk10.0-official and I do have Charles Edwards set up as a media source.) what seems the course to take is rm the cups-drivers and the kdelibs-common files form /partial and once again urpmi --auto-select --no-md5sum, but if this is way wrong someone tell me please, before I do it :) thanks Julie Julie; It sounds as is the rpms that you've got stored in the /partial folder may be corrupted, so even if urpmi could resume the download, it's not going to help the situation. Dump the rpms in /partial and rerun urpmi. It's your safest bet. Thanks. :) I was waiting for someon to either say what you just did or to shriek NO! Don't do that or you'll break everything Glad it was the former. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:37 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point
three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start
over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
First of all you shouldn't be mixin all those commands
together Julie. Certainly not 'rpm --rebuilddb updatedb
update-menus -v -n ldconfig' _before_ updating your media and
gettin updates. Even then, those commands are really only useful
_after_ large daily 'unstable' cooker updates, specially when libs,
system files, or xorg updates are involved. And then you should
follow with a logout from your DE (destop environment, eg KDE),
restart the X server, and log back in. Rarely, if ever, useful to
do all that with 'stable' version Mandrake supplied updates (eg,
10.1, 10.0, 9.2 .).
hi Tom;
okay, I don't need to update the menus and all that after each large update?
I thought I read here that I should.
You do realize that --noclean is just an option to keep rpm
d/l's after uprmi has installed them, right? Not normally somethin
you need to do. A better option might be --keep. It will keep
present software on the system, and skip the update one, if there's
a conflict encountered, rather than stop an tell you that there's a
problem an an some package(s) need to be removed. But even then,
somethin not normally needed with 'stable' version updates.
(see 'man urpmi' for better explainations ;)
I am doing --noclean so that I do not have to d/l the rpms again should I
have to reinstall (off discs) - I am on dialup and it takes several days.
Also I am keeping the rpms because I am fixin to install 10.0 on my laptop
and sure don't want to have to d/l all that once again.
It's not the version that's unstable but the i-d-10-t at the keyboard :)
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
Oh, good. I was wondering about using wget instead of curl. As to the
--no-md5sum tag, I believe I learned that here also. This morning I began
another thread asking why --no-md5sum, but no-one's answered yet. :)
That will make urpmi use wget rather than default to curl.
wget is often better if the mirror doesn't wanna play nice, or is
very busy. 'verify-rpm: 0' (0 = false) disables package signature
checking, an you just know you're gonna say to go ahead an install
anyway ;) Checking the signatures, specially on contrib packages
isn't much of a big deal anyhow. Better that you have trust in the
mirror and/or the provider (eg, PLF, CAE, Thac, etc.)
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -vis about all you should
need. If you get the dreaded in order to update, the following
packages need to be removed message, an you're not sure that's a
good idea (most often isn't), then run
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -v --keep
Now if you (make the mistake :) of upgrading somethin like
KDE to a 3rd party's newer version than your Mandrake came with,
then run all those commands I said (above) were only usefull for
large cooker updates. IMO tho, you'd be better off just runnin
cooker than goin for those 3rd party updates. Probly less problems
;) YMMV
thanks Tom - all this may have been explained before but this is like
building blocks to me - - I have to understand one thing before some of the
others sink in. You could say there are package dependencies in the
learning center of my brain.
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Re: [newbie] --noclean
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:28 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38, Julie Sloan wrote:
how would I go about making the --noclean option default for urpmi'ing,
so I don't have to remember to add it each time I d/l a program?
ty
In /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
add the line
noclean
between the first set of {}
(or is it no-clean ?)
derek
Thanks. :)
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Re: [newbie] md5sum question
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:47 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: Somebody suggested that I add the --no-md5sum tag to urpmi.update -a and I don't remember what the reason for this is. Will someone explain? ty I can not think of a good reasion to do it. Basicly, you are turning off error checking that makes sure the files extracted from the RPM are the same as when they were made part of the RPM. Mikkel Hmmm I wonder why I started doing it then. I know I read it here. I will stop now. :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: [linux-aktivis] [JOKE] The Creation (Microsoft Style)
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: The Creation (Microsoft Style) excellent! -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:51 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:37 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point
three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start
over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
hi Tom;
okay, I don't need to update the menus and all that after each large
update? I thought I read here that I should.
Depends, as I said sometimes after large updates it's needed,
along with log out/in But you were tryin to do all those
system 'refreshers' _before_ updating. You got it sort'a kind'a
backasswards sweetheart ;) At least what you posted
Uh huh. I neglected to post the several hours of downloads that preceded
that. :)
the order in which I have been doing stuff is:
urpmi.removemedia (if necessary)
urpmi.addmedia
rpm --rebuilddb etc
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select
rpm --rebuild, etc
I figured any time I added or removed any number of programs (whether one or
fifty) or changed media managers it wouldn't hurt to run the system
refreshers.
I am doing --noclean so that I do not have to d/l the rpms again should
I have to reinstall (off discs) - I am on dialup and it takes several
days. Also I am keeping the rpms because I am fixin to install 10.0 on
my laptop and sure don't want to have to d/l all that once again.
OK, that's a valid reason, particulary if you move them to a
'safe' backup location. If you're forced to do a re-install with
the packages left in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ or anywhere on your '/'
partition, You'll lose them. I believe you might also find that if
an when that re-install should occur, the packages could well have
already been obsoleted by newer ones anyhow.
I have a separate /storage/ partition (thanks Lanman!); and what I think I'd
like the rpms to do is ...at the time they would normally be cleaned if I
didn't have the --noclean switch on, I would like them to move to a
directory on that partition instead.
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
smile later on, when I have time to play with vi again I will insert that
into the .cfg
Thanks for all the other tips, too. It was interesting reading and I will
implement them.
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[newbie] another urpmi query
when a normal update gets interrupted the partial downloads seem to get stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial, and then the packages won't install because of these missing partials. What's the preferred way of dealing with this? thanks -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when a normal update gets interrupted the partial downloads seem to get stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial, and then the packages won't install because of these missing partials. What's the preferred way of dealing with this? I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again. Okay, thanks :) Even if what's in the partial directory are incomplete d/ls? like 6Mb of an 8Mb package, etc? -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] --noclean
how would I go about making the --noclean option default for urpmi'ing, so I don't have to remember to add it each time I d/l a program? ty -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi firefox
when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its location as http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/ but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0. What did I do wrong? Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the -1.0-1 rpm or is there another way? ty -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:21 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote: Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate in vi mode reflexively. I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :) Julie -- you could try mcedit. I like it a lot. Thank you for the suggestion, Josenildo. :) I have poked around in VIm a little bit this week and I like it. Emacs confuses me - there is too much information; I couldn't even find where to change the font size. I'll look at mcedit also. Is it Mandrake specific? BTW sorry I am so late in replying; it's been a rough week for doing much more than just cut/paste. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems with Ipw2200 BG
On Sunday 06 March 2005 03:35 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: download the correct .tar.gz file To uncompress the file just click on it with konqueror. You will need to be root user to do that so open up a root copy of konqueror with Alt+F2 and type 'kdesu konqueror' in the box. kdesu konqueror! how cool! this is handy to know. (Alt-F2 does nothing on my box - is this a keyboard problem?) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems with Ipw2200 BG
On Sunday 06 March 2005 06:00 pm, riccardo wrote: On Sunday 06 March 2005 10:49 pm, Julie Sloan referred: download the correct .tar.gz file To uncompress the file just click on it with konqueror. _ as root, you can command :- tar xzvf filename Yes, I knew this, thank you (I am not the one who asked the original question). What I did not know is you can open Konqueror as root. I was happy to read your answer, kdesu konqueror. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems with Ipw2200 BG
On Sunday 06 March 2005 06:29 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 06 March 2005 22:49, Julie Sloan wrote: (Alt-F2 does nothing on my box - is this a keyboard problem?) I was assuming KDE was the Window Manager. Alt+F2 in KDE gives you a Run box to enter a single command. Yes, KDE is my windowmanager, but Alt-F2 does nothing. I suppose I need a new keyboard; I know my ESC does not work, now it seems F2 also doesn't. I don't know enough about the F keys to know what they ought to do. I do know the left Alt is functioning as I was using it in place of Esc in VIm today. Alt-F3 and Alt-F5 are giving me menus. None of the other F's are doing anything with Alt. Thanks for the information. :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:11 am, riccardo wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote: Which is why I'm on my fourth reinstall. ___ ~ maybe, it is handy, to have entire duplicate system, on a spare partition . . . a matter of moments, with RSYNC Thanks! I'll add that to my list of things to try. :) The trouble is, there is so much to learn and so much to do and so few hours in a day, that I have only scraped the surface of all the good advice and tips I've been given. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: [...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't move, that is to say, drag and drop a file with the .exe extension? When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original location. The stupid trick is to rename the file, ie take away the extension, then move it, then restore its original name. That's a stupid trick. ** An easier trick is to right click, drag, and then select move from the menu See, that's what I get for not reading beyond page 17 ;-) As someone who once upon a time did full-time tech support for Windows 95 98, believe me, you can do as much damage in 95/98 as an ordinary user as you can as su in Linux, but 95/98 requires a lot less effort to do so. But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it! Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred: handy, to have entire duplicate system ~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :- Thanks riccardo, I will add this and your run daily script into that file of notes I mentioned to Rosemary. FWIW, the lazy way I take notes: first, if I think there is something I need to learn *at this stage*, I hang on to the email for a little while. then later, cleaning out my mailbox, I review it again, deciding if this is something I should make a note of. If so, I mark it some way. Another few days goes by and I'll get the pertinent information out of each of these marked emails and paste into this one big confusing file. I reread the file every week or two, grepping a little more each time. :) It works for me but might not for everyone else. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:52 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing things. If you are starting out fresh, you don't have to unlearn things. Most people have forgotten the learning process they went through when they started using Windows. Very true - I had forgotten how *lost* I was when first started using the computer. Now I'm lost if can't have access to it for a few days! !!!DAYS mhhmmmp. You're not as addicted as I am. Julie-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote: Julie Sloan claimed: But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it! Julie -- Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-) Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself because I didn't use IE or OE. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe I was lucky in another way, running into people on USENET who told me get a real ISP get a real browser and join cauce. So within three or four months of getting a computer (with cringe advice from Dad, who STILL swears the sun rises and sets on AOHell), I'd moved from AOL to mindspring, from IE to Netsape, was using Eudora-light for a mail reader and FreeAgent for newsgroups, and was reading snopes.com and symantec before forwarding all those warnings. g And preaching to anyone who'd listen that AOL is the kindergarden of the internet - fine, start there, but move on as soon as you are able or you'll never learn anything. Now I'm applying all I've learned into getting a real OS, and it's really frustrating to be back in preschool. Maybe this musing is getting a bit too OT for this list. :) Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote: Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate in vi mode reflexively. I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :) -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote: Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate in vi mode reflexively. I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :) As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with me. (There's something wrong with an editor that hauls around an eliza in every instance). Ok. Would you please repeat that, more slowly this time, and in newbie English? Thanks. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 10:06 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with me. (There's something wrong with an editor that hauls around an eliza in every instance). Ok. Would you please repeat that, more slowly this time, and in newbie English? Thanks. Emacs is a honkin' big program that initially was intended to be an editor. The vi crowd always thought that the name stood for Eighty Megabytes And Constantly Swapping. I was making fun of the propensity of the emacs crowd to cram about everything they can into emacs. It's got a lisp environment, and in there it has a program that simulates a non-directive psychologist. The latter program's name is eliza, some folks know it as doctor. All it really does is a simple word analysis of your statements and regurgitates it back at you (or the generic response H if it can't figure out what to say). Hmmm. Okay. I saw the psychologist tool when I was exploring emacs a few weeks ago but didn't make note of the name. :) Thanks for clearing that up. So, you're saying VI is a more compact program? ducking -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux... What about it? I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was waiting for my linux CDs to arrive. Now I make a little pin money troubleshooting XP systems in my neighborhood, but the only time *this* *here* computer boots into Window$ is when I need to print something. That was today, and ...two or three weeks ago, I'd guess. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:39 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux... What about it? I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was waiting for my linux CDs to arrive. Now I make a little pin money troubleshooting XP systems in my neighborhood, but the only time *this* *here* computer boots into Window$ is when I need to print something. That was today, and ...two or three weeks ago, I'd guess. Why into windows to print? Lexmark Z715 AND I guess now is as good a time as any to google that again, because I DID once see a mention of *a driver that even works on my Lexmark Z715* but at the time was having too many other issues to follow up on it. here it is: http://www.twowheels.us/linux/ will let you know if this resolves it. thanks for the nudge. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux... What about it? I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was waiting for my linux CDs to arrive. Now I make a little pin money troubleshooting XP systems in my neighborhood, but the only time *this* *here* computer boots into Window$ is when I need to print something. That was today, and ...two or three weeks ago, I'd guess. Julie Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux? Linux was harder, no question about it. I had zero computer experience before my six years of win95 98. I was so illiterate in 1998 that I had to use the manual to learn how to power my first computer (a Tosh laptop) on! In win I already knew the internal structure and file system. I knew about tools like the disc defragmenter, and several different ways to navigate the file system, and stupid tricks [...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't move, that is to say, drag and drop a file with the .exe extension? When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original location. The stupid trick is to rename the file, ie take away the extension, then move it, then restore its original name. That's a stupid trick. I learned dozens of those by breaking things, which is probaby why I have friends calling my up to troubleshoot for them.] The best advice came from page 17 of my Tosh manual (yes, I remember this ;-) ), which paraphrased, is, don't be afraid of it. Its just a machine. Chances are you can't mess it up too badly. At that point I put away the manual and started breaking things. And this is my handicap in migrating to linux. In the CL as su you CAN mess it up too badly, and I just don't have the internal discipline to wait until I know what I'm doing to go there. Which is why I'm on my fourth reinstall. ;-) But I'm having fun, and each time I know a little more. Every day I say to myself (about something different each time), well, I won't do THAT again. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 03:35 pm, N. B. Day wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would be expensive. I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget and then make a cd with the updates that I can carry up the bayou. Once there, I copy to the hard disk, define a source like urpmi.addmedia rpms101 file:///root/rpms101 and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it since defining it) and then just urpmi --auto-select does the update. Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've used for this situation. HTH Thank you so very much. Also for the speed of your reply. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 07:02 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:56 am, Aron Smith wrote: Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. Oh boy, I wish I knew it before :( Me too. Only 952Mb to go at 56Kbps Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 04:43 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2005 01:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 14:55, Mike Adolf wrote: Is there a setting for system wide default browser? In particular, Kontact uses Konqueror as the browser. I would like it to be Mozilla. I look in Kontact configure but did not see an appropriate setting. Anybody know how to change it? Mike kcontrol Components File Associations text html and move Mozilla to the top of the list. Anne Thanks Anne That would have taken me a while to find! Mike Yes, thanks, Anne! I had given up. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] which word processor
On Monday 21 February 2005 03:53 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:19, Dennis Myers wrote: Rosemary, in my OO.org if I click on the bullets icon on the tool bar after hitting enter to start a new paragraph, the bullet that it creates at the empty paragraph dissapears and normal paragraphing continues. Does that make sense? HTH yes - it does make sense. I will try it - thanks. Don't want to go installing a whole heap of word processors to try! I've heard good things about abiword but haven't tried it myself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mouse
On Sunday 20 February 2005 11:53 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I need a new mouse and have to say I am becoming very confused about linux compatibility. Currently using a MS trackball one which works using PS2 but it is driving me mad as the ball gets so dirty and sticks all the time. I want to try optical. A4 NB30 optical mouse (USB) was recommended in a local store so I bought it home to try it out but mandrake seems to hate it! I'm using a Kensington#72127 PS-2 optical with Mandrake 10.0 Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Thunderbird preview pane
Now I have a Thunderbird question. When this happened this morning I remembered it was why I quit using TB last time and went back to Kontact: In the preview pane of messages I don't get the whole message. If I open the message separate (like, double-click it) then in the new window I can scroll and see the whole message, but not in the preview pane. Weird. IIRC when I was using TBird in Windows XP this never happened. I'm using Mandrake10.0 and all my urpmi updating is current to 12 February. Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird preview pane
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 01:53 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: Now I have a Thunderbird question. In the preview pane of messages I don't get the whole message. If I open the message separate (like, double-click it) then in the new window I can scroll and see the whole message, but not in the preview pane. I'm using Mandrake10.0 and all my urpmi updating is current to 12 February. Let me clarify; I can see part of the message (the whole thing if it's real short), but there is not much scroll bar and if it's a long message I can only see as much as the height of my monitor, can only scroll a very little bit. This is very strange. Julie -- http://www.bobsloansampler.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
On Friday 04 February 2005 05:15 am, et wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:16 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 12:32 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 02:33 pm, Lanman wrote: http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html I can definatly use the FUBAR how to :-) Is that FUBAR as in Fscked Up Beyond Any Recovery Aron? grin Oh yes ..and I am the EGGspurt at that it's fouled up,here in the bible belt thank you... Wouldn't that be FOWLED up ... sorry ;-) J -- http://www.bobsloansampler.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
On Friday 04 February 2005 09:58 am, Lanman wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 05:15 am, et wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:16 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 12:32 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 02:33 pm, Lanman wrote: http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html I can definatly use the FUBAR how to :-) Is that FUBAR as in Fscked Up Beyond Any Recovery Aron? grin Oh yes ..and I am the eggspurt at that it's fouled up,here in the bible belt thank you... Wouldn't that be FOWLED up J - Only if you're into birds! Well, I was looking at the EGG spurt four lines up. ;) J -- MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:01 am, Paul wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 03:43, Julie Sloan wrote: Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: big snip A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( I hope you're not suggesting that someone might go into politics for reasons other than helping their fellow man (or woman)? Shame on you. 8-) Oh, I'm sure they all have helping people in mind. It's *which* people they want to help that varies so drastically. :-\ -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands.......????
teguh wrote: Hi, Thank you Julie for asking Making New Connection cause I have the same problem since I live in Asia (Indonesia). I don't know which provider should I choose. Beside that I have problem with my connection so i'll work on building connecting first then ask that question.Till now i'm still struggling to connect my comp to internet under Linux or save my money to buy an external modem to overcome this. ===it's just a blow of my thought today!!=== Hi teguh - - here is the external modem I bought last summer; it works well for me: http://www.bestdata.com/product.asp?pid=41catID=4 I think I have the same setup as you - - dual booting Mandrake-10.0 and WinXP. The call-waiting feature only works on the Winduh side though. :( hth Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Archives
Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:23:55 +0100, Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:09, Noel McG. wrote: I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me the add for the newbie archives please. http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html I prefer: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2 Oh, WOW that's a nice database. Thank you for the link. Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
Margot wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of us ;-) Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn down liquid reward either... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:26:09 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: It's just me too... Oh jeez, just what this list needs. Posts about the World Social Forum and Zip-Loc baggies...heh, we're gonna get along just fine :-) Oh, I'll just blab anything. That's just me too... um... I mean... never mind... :) Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On 31 Jan 2005 at 12:52, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck I would settle for just a hic bottle. What on earth is a hic bottle?!? **(puts fingers on keys in various positions, trying to figure out if it's a typo) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: big snip A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( -- But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. -Bob Dylan, 1963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands.......????
et wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 09:46 am, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi teguh - - here is the external modem I bought last summer; it works well for me: http://www.bestdata.com/product.asp?pid=41catID=4 I think I have the same setup as you - - dual booting Mandrake-10.0 and WinXP. The call-waiting feature only works on the Winduh side though. :( call witing features of the modem are something setup with the init string you send the modem just before calling. copy the init string you use in winders, and/or look through the book that came with your modem. you can set the same init string in the setup of kppp.. Sorry - where do you suggest I should begin looking for the init string? (Having call waiting would be so cool.) Got no book with it, just a slim paper folder and that tells next to nothing... there should be an install CD here somewhere... ewww eww ick ick cobwebs... not there... got discs for everything else... Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] interesting news story
On the AP today: Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software http://tinyurl.com/5hezf Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands...???
teguh wrote: Hi all, I have some questions and do need your help since I'm really,really,really new in Linux. 1. on booting my comp shows this status Bringing up interface loopback eth0 FAILED. But the rest are OK. What does it mean? and how to fix it? If you are connecting with a modem rather than LAN then you don't use the eth0. I *think* eth0 referes to LAN. If you are connected despite the FAILED, then you don't need the eth0 to start at boot. MCC Network Internet Manage Connections click the arrow, pulldown menu, whatever it's called, near the top and select eth0. Below are tabs: TCP/IP, Options, Information. Under Options disable (uncheck) start at boot. HTH Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands...???
Pablo Ortuzar wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2005 19:06, Julie Sloan wrote: If you are connecting with a modem rather than LAN then you don't use the eth0. I *think* eth0 referes to LAN. If you are connected despite the FAILED, then you don't need the eth0 to start at boot. Hi, eth0 is your ethernet (computer network) card. Since you can have several ethernet cards, they're numbered: eth0, eth1, etc. If you have only one card, then it's eth0. The network ethernet cards can connect to are 1) the Internet 2) a local area network (LAN) In order to connect to the Internet (I assume it's what you want), you must previously 1) configure your ethernet card 2)set up your connection. Select Configure your computer. You'll be asked for your root password. Choose Network and Internet, then New connection. Depending on your connection, choose modem, ISDN, ADSL, Cable, LAN or Wireless . Connection can be set up to be started on demand or -always- at boot. Hi Thank you Pablo for the explanation. Now I have a question: when I open kppp and choose configure, my modem device is shown as /dev/ttyS0. How is that the same or different from eth0 ? I am using an external modem since my Winmodem wouldn't configure for Mandrake10.0. Also, when I go to MCC Network and Internet Make New Connection, on the second or third screen I am asked to choose my provider, which shows a bunch of European providers but none so far as I can tell, that apply to me. I do not have a problem connecting, just a problem understanding this method of setting up a new connection. thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thanks for help with Mozilla
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 26 January 2005 21:28, Julie Sloan wrote: Thanks to everyone who helped with my recent Mozilla problem (under the header locked directory). big snip Congratulation, Julie. -- Just a few remarks : You did the whole process as root, which isn't necessary. You can download it anywhere and untar it as a normal, unprivileged user. Only the final step, running the actual install script should be done as root if you want all users on the system to use mozilla. Thanks Kaj, I didn't know that. I thought I had to be root for it to work for all users. Julie :) -- MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Thanks for help with Mozilla
Thanks to everyone who helped with my recent Mozilla problem (under the header locked directory). ...for the record, Mozilla-1.7.5 _will_ run under Mandrake 10.0.The urpmi sources I found for this version of Mozilla were all Mandrake 10.1 specific, so I found it easiest to download the 12Mb tar.gz here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ I used Konqueror to download the tarball to my desktop, and proceeded in a terminal in this manner: $su $(my password) (sign in as root) #mkdir /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5 (make a directory to place the installer in permanently) #mv ~/Desktop/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer.tar.gz /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer.tar.gz (move the downloaded file to that directory) #cd/usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5 (go there - probably an unnecessary step, but saves typing the full path every time; this also enables me to runls -a to find the exact name of the file I want to manipulate) #tar -zxvf ./mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer.tar.gz (unpacked the tarball, which created mozilla-installer directory within /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5) #cd ./mozilla-installer (moved into that directory - probably unnecesssary, see above) #./mozilla-installer (this command ran the installer, which asked if I'd like to place mozilla in/usr/local/mozilla to which I replied yes) #cd/usr/local/mozilla (I followed the mozilla stuff to its new home) #./mozilla (ran the program for the first time, as root, which is necessary for some reason. Note: I did not set up any preferences, mail account, etc as root but instead logged out and logged back in as user to set up the mozilla account.) please see: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/guide/get-started.html for more explanations and FAQ. hth someone, sometime. Julie -- ...but the learning curve is like, straight up. - - overheard in a newbie forum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] locked directory
suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root directory. The contents of the directory are as follows: # ls -a ./ .cshrc .gnome/ .qt/ .xauthNME5mc ../drakx/ .gnome2/ .rnd .xauthoAxEUc .bash_history .fonts.cache-1 .gnome2_private/ .rpmdrake .Xdefaults .bash_logout .gconf/ .gstreamer/ .tcshrc .bash_profile .gconfd/.ICEauthority tmp/ .bashrc.gimp-1.2/ .kde/ .vimrc What may have caused this is I tried to remove my Mozilla program to install a newer version. However, I ended up with a /.mozilla/ directory in /also with a padlock on the icon. I've looked in the MCC/security (I'm on Mandrake 10.0, running the KDE desktop environment) and find the permissions on the locked /root are 700 and I can't change them; my security level is (was) set at 2 with all defaults. Am I imagining things, or is this padlock a new thing? If it's new, how do I fix it? Mozilla won't let itself be uninstalled either - - I urpmi'd Mozilla and got the old 1.6 browser instead of the new 1.7.5 which is why I'm making this new mess today. I'll just complete the mess by instlling the new one despite the old one still in residence (which mozilla.org says not to do) - - I can always start again from scratch sigh Help? Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
-Original Message- From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 25, 2005 5:31 PM To: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] locked directory On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:19, Julie Sloan wrote: suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root directory. The contents of the directory are as follows: # ls -a big snip I've looked in the MCC/security (I'm on Mandrake 10.0, running the KDE desktop environment) and find the permissions on the locked /root are 700 and I can't change them; my security level is (was) set at 2 with all defaults. 'nother big snip Help? Julie You are looking as root, aren't you? Yes I am. Can't get into the MCC other than as root. Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: [Newchix] locked directory
Margot wrote: Julie wrote: Mozilla won't let itself be uninstalled either - - I urpmi'd Mozilla and got the old 1.6 browser instead of the new 1.7.5 which is why I'm making this new mess today. I'll just complete the mess by instlling the new one despite the old one still in residence (which mozilla.org says not to do) - - I can always start again from scratch sigh Help? Hi Julie When you use either urpmi or rpmdrake (the software installer in Mandrake Control Center) to install a newer mozilla, it will automatically uninstall the old version for you - there's no need to do it manually. Hi Margot, # urpmi mozilla1.7.5 no package named mozilla1.7.5 I'm beginning to think I'm too stupid for this. :( Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
I disabled my reply to option in webmail but it's magically re-enabled itself. Please adjust your replies, since I can't seem to... -Original Message- From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 25, 2005 5:26 PM To: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] locked directory On Tuesday 25 January 2005 21:19, Julie Sloan wrote: suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root directory. Your /root directory is where the user root has his things like configurartions etc...Under no circumstances should you use this directory for running applications like mail, browsers or anything snip Don't change it. Good enough. Thank you Kaj, and everyone else who addressed this issue What may have caused this is I tried to remove my Mozilla program to install a newer version. However, I ended up with a /.mozilla/ directory in /also with a padlock on the icon. How did you install Mozilla in the first place ? - If you just (as root) typed urpmi mozilla, you'll have 1.6. To uninstall it, just (as root) type urpme mozilla. That fixed it. I've been reading 'man urpmi' but it's not sinking in. Sorry to be asking questions that are answered there. A msec set at level 2 would certainly keep me sleepness all night. That's the standard setting the installation defaulted to. Mozilla snip If you want the 1.7.3 version go to Charles' site : http://www.eslrahc.com/ and download it to some directory. Then, change into that directory, become root and type urpmi moz and hit tab, then enter. - Or you could add Charles' site as a source, but that's another beast. whine I have Charles' site as a source, and I looked there and don't see any Mozilla at all in the Mandrake 10.0 subsection/whine Thanks everyone, for your responses and your help. Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KMail addressbook question
Hi (I'm bck) In ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/ I found not only one ./std.vcf, but also ./std.vcf2, ./std.vcf3, etc, on up to -7 or -8. Why? And do I only need to keep the one without a number appended, or the one with the highest number, or all of them? thanks, Julie (is it top posting if I'm quoting from a different thread?) The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne Hi Anne, ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc -- MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KMail addressbook question
from Dennis M: Julie said: In ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/ I found not only one ./std.vcf, but also ./std.vcf2, ./std.vcf3, etc, on up to -7 or -8. Why? And do I only need to keep the one without a number appended, or the one with the highest number, or all of them? They all look the same to me. Don't know why you would need more than the original, so I moved all of the others to /tmp and then checked my addressbook and it is all there. HTH Thanks - sorry for the dumb question! (should have thought to look at them myself) :) Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] easyurpmi 10.0 d/l says 10.1 - quick question
When getting urpmi updates from easyurpmi.zarb.org, I notice that although I've picked 10.0 official from the drop-down list, all the media I get has a 10.1 innit. Maybe I'm overly cautious now, but, IS this a problem? If it is, what do I do about the one media I installed before I noticed?? I'm posting from webmail, which doesn't allow me to change the reply to field. Please do adjust your to header accordingly. thanks! Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
-Original Message- From: Mike Chalmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 23, 2005 6:47 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] What is urpmi? Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers URPMI is a way to install programs on a Mandrake system without having to find all the extra files you need to make those programs run. You URPMI an entire package instead of one file at a time. That's the quick answer. Someone who knows more will have to take it from here... Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] easyurpmi 10.0 d/l says 10.1 - quick question
Answering my own question... and replacing it with a followup question: --- From: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 23, 2005 6:40 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] easyurpmi 10.0 d/l says 10.1 - quick question When getting urpmi updates from easyurpmi.zarb.org, I notice that although I've picked 10.0 official from the drop-down list, all the media I get has a 10.1 innit. Maybe I'm overly cautious now, but, IS this a problem? If it is, what do I do about the one media I installed before I noticed?? It's an I-D-ten-T thing. When you proceed to step two without clicking the proceed to step two icon, this is what happens. So, now, is there any way to undo my installation of plf/mandrake/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz, or should I just go ahead and reinstall the whole system again?? I'm getting good at it... Here's what I did: # urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/mandrake/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz using different removable device [/dev/hdc] for Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1) using different removable device [/dev/hdc] for Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2) using different removable device [/dev/hdc] for Installation CD 3 (x86) (cdrom3) using different removable device [/dev/hdc] for Installation CD 4 (x86) (cdrom4) added medium plf examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86 ) (cdrom1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86 ) (cdrom2).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 3 (x86 ) (cdrom3).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 4 (x86 ) (cdrom4).cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of plf... ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/mandrake/10.1/synthesis.hdlist.cz found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as synthesis.hdlist.cz ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.plf.cz] writing list file for medium plf examining pubkey file of plf... ...imported key caba22ae from pubkey file of plf found 0 headers in cache removing 0 obsolete headers in cache write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] after that I did nothing but scream and exit. Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 15:38, Julie Sloan wrote: when I run rpmdrake I get this: generous snip IF it were me, at this stage, I would backup what I could, and format the HD and start fresh. I came to the same conclusion after sleeping on it. Thankfully K3b still works! thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 04:35, Julie Sloan wrote: There should be a text file with that info in your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/addressbook or something like that I don't use kmail. Open it in a terminal and you should have your info. thank you Mike, but no, no addrbook in that directory, or any nearby. Found all my mail in ~/.Mail, and recently used addresses somewhere...?but no main addressbook. The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne Hi Anne, ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc That's it; thank you!!! Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Margot wrote: Julie, I suggest you start new threads for each new problem you encounter - I can't help with Kmail addressbook as I've never used Kmail, and I don't even use KDE - but if you start a thread marked lost Kmail addressbook I'm sure that someone here will be able to help you find it. LOL it seems almost too late to do that now, but I will definitely keep this in mind in the future. thanks Margot, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Lanman wrote: Julie; Margot asked me to drop in and lend a hand if possible. I've had a quick look at the thread in order to catch up. If I understand things clearly, you were trying to do a 10.0 update, but accidentally did an update using 10.1 sources and now several things are broken. Hi Lanman; yes, that's it in a nutshell. If you're trying to salvage your address book, then Anne is 100% right got it, salvaged it :) In the meantime, you might want to seriously consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... As far as the urpmi sources are concerned, try starting with main, updates, plf and contrib sources, skipping the jpackage source for the time being. ok Hope that helps. I'll be around all day if you need help and it looks like you and I are in the same timezone (Eastern), so that should make it a bit easier. it does; thanks a lot. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:41, Lanman wrote: Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. Just a small addition - if you have mail from an older release (and I think that includes 10.0) you may have both a Mail folder and a .Mail folder. Mail used to be stored in Mail, but for some reason Mandrake's packagers decided to change that to .Mail. If that's so and you have any mail since the 10.1 debacle, you will probably need to save both of them. Anne No, since the debacle I've been using MozillaMail. I have a little stored in XimianEvolution I'd like to back up also, and oops, guess I ought to be leaving messages on the server now... thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 21 January 2005 04:13 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: To satisfy dependencies, the following 556 packages are going to be installed (1088 MB): I am on dialup. 22Mb takes an hour and a half. Do I need 1088 additional Mb?? It's not 1088 'additional' mb. MOF, it's not even 1088 mb's. 1088 is the installed diskspace required, but since you're updating (replacing) packages, the the difference in disk space used is minimal. Also, 1088 represents the uncompressed size of the packages. Since the rpm's are compressed, your d/l would be roughly 40% of 1088, or 400 to 450 mb's. Aha, okay. My patient partner sat by while I tied up the phone line for about 90Mb yesterday That's still way too much for dialup. Yes it is. :) If /home's not on a separate partition now, and you have enough diskspace on a storage partition, just copy your entire /home directory to that partition. Then copy it back in after a re-install of 10.0, overwriting the install /home. This probly isn't practically feasible if your storage area is any type of Windoze file system. It's possible, but much more complicated. I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I can see into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:31, Julie Sloan wrote:consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... I think you've made the right decision g Anne Well, this way I may tear out less of my hair ;) thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Well, after sleeping on the harddrive I am confusing the two ;) Stephen Kühn wrote: Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men. Ask Margot. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: Difference between a hard drive and a man:snip Thanks for the explanation! BTW, sorry for my earlier top-posting, I'd forgotten it is preferable to bottom-post on this list? Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 22 January 2005 10:32 am, Julie Sloan wrote: I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I can see into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. Actually you seem to have alot'a snap for a newbie. I hope I've learned a little bit in six months?? But a lot of what you say from here on looks like alphabet soup on the first pass :) So I'll read it again, slower... In the re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;) Also, IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many. Why one real big /stor dir? Wouldn't it be better to have new downloads (from unknown sources; I don't mean rpms) go to a separate partition to isolate them just in case, and to have certain types of large files, for instance MP3s, default to their own space? As to 'see' into Win$ux, that why I left it at 'complicated'. M$ ntfs FS's (and there are several versions), can be read by Linux, but write support is (intentionally by M$) dangerous and not supported. I'm not even sure if a tarball stored on ntfs can be transferred to Linux. Yes it can - is how I got a modem driver when linux wasn't recognizing my conexant last summer. D/L'ed it into WinXP then cp'd it into Mandrake. BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS. And make a separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3). Ratio of '/' to '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you set aside storage space. For small Linux 'only' drives (13gig), I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a suitable /swap partition is best use. Thanks for the suggestions. I have 200G total on two drives, but 80 of that has Win$ux spread all over it. If I make a, say, 20G partition on the 120G drive, (where my crippled Mandrake 10.0 is now) then move (?) the 4G of WinXP OS into it, could I reformat that 80G into storage space? The thought of it is pretty daunting; I am very new to this and know very little command-line stuff. When you refer to '/' , is that where /mnt is now, and is that where I'd access other partitions from, once I have them? thanks, Julie -- ...my brain is MMMELLTINNG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:18, Margot wrote: Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot. Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't miss a couple! J -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
