[newbie] ISP question Century Tell
Is any one else on the newbie list using Centurytel as a ISP with dsl service? If so are you having problems with DSL and ML 10.1? After ongoing problems for 2 weeks I am trying to track down if it is a local or a wide spread problem. Everything works fine with older ML distros and windoze but there are serious problems when using centurytel with ML 10.0 Due ti the fact I am unable to track down any intelligent life forms at Century Tel I am trying to figure out if this is a local or a wide spread problem in order to figure out who to ream at Centuryhell Any other century customers here have any input on this? Thanks Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ISP question Century Tell
On Friday 29 October 2004 10:06 am, Marc wrote: Is any one else on the newbie list using Centurytel as a ISP with dsl service? If so are you having problems with DSL and ML 10.1? After ongoing problems for 2 weeks I am trying to track down if it is a local or a wide spread problem. Everything works fine with older ML distros and windoze but there are serious problems when using centurytel with ML 10.0 Due ti the fact I am unable to track down any intelligent life forms at Century Tel I am trying to figure out if this is a local or a wide spread problem in order to figure out who to ream at Centuryhell Any other century customers here have any input on this? Thanks Marc Marc: You might take a look here: http://www.dslreports.com/comments/1519 Disclaimer #1: I have no personal experience with CenturyTel, nor do I know anyone who has. Disclaimer #2: As is common with sites of this kind, the negative comments outnumber the positive ones. However, a scan of the first page (of many) indicates that you aren't exactly The Lone Ranger. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ISP help
On Saturday 25 May 2002 15:41, you wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: [newbie] ISP help Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol and it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux? I cannot be certain, I don't use AOL, but if it's anything like one of my email address where a similar you must use our install software dictate prevails, I just ignore it, I assume you still have your windows configuration, then just go there and copy down all the entries in OE , in tools- accounts, and in the dialup dialogue -settings, takes a bit of hand writing but when your got it all together on a couple of sheets of paper go back to Linux and use the info. Believe me you will not get it right first time. Just keep playing around with it eventually you will not only be able to log on and surf the net but also download and sendyour emails. Once you have it right , then back up the .rc file in home directory for your emailer and browser. Then in future all you need to do is overwrite those files each fresh new OS install. Dead quick and simple. It's easier than M$. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISP help
Not right now. Oddly enough AOL runs on FREE BSD (A UNIX flavor) but they
won't do a Linux client because (supposedly) the adds and promos that they
pester your brain to death with won't work in Linux. Oh darned, no more
credit card offers, or chances to buy stuff I don't want and can't use
anyway. 8-{
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: [newbie] ISP help
Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol and
it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux?
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On Saturday 25 May 2002 05:31 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol and it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux? not really. aol uses their own special tcp/ip stack if i recall correctly. infact it was the case (still is) that installing it on winders made your networking go all screwy. you may need to look into getting another connection if you wanna surf in linux -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy. Give Linux to a friend today. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISP help
On Saturday 25 May 2002 08:26 am, you wrote:
Not right now. Oddly enough AOL runs on FREE BSD (A UNIX flavor) but they
won't do a Linux client because (supposedly) the adds and promos that they
pester your brain to death with won't work in Linux. Oh darned, no more
credit card offers, or chances to buy stuff I don't want and can't use
anyway. 8-{
Somewhere out there, there is a 2.0 version that has been modified to work
in Linux.
B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: [newbie] ISP help
Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol
and
it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux?
--
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Re: [newbie] ISP help
On Saturday 25 May 2002 08:31 am, you wrote: Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol and it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux? I googled for linux aol install, and got almost 200K hits. Here's a link I found on page 2 how one guy did it: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html Note that he's starting with just the AOL CD's, so that you should be able to skip some of the steps about setting up an account. If I were you, I'd do a lot more searching before I'd dive into this particular pond. And, FWIW, I'd consider changing ISP's. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok i finally got the modem installed but now the only isp i have is aol and it makes you use a .exe is there any way i can get aol to work on linux? Yes, just go to www.transgaming.com and sign up for a subscription then download the binary winex 2.0 and install it on your linux system. Now put in an AOL 5.0 CD ((DEFINITELY not the 7.0)) and if you don't have one just call the AOL number for cancellation of service; they'll be HAPPY to send you one just to keep you as a customer. OK equipped with the 5.0 CD and running linux, open the CD on the desktop and look all the exe's have a wineglass icon! Find the icon that says setup and voila`. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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HAHAHAHAHA the aol 5.0 cd thing worked perfect lol thanks people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19
Use your entire emaiil address for your login ID instead of the part before the asterik (@) For example, if your address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then don't just use LesJac as your login ID, use; [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is of course assuming that the rest of the setup configuration is correct. But if your getting that far to get an authentication error, then this might help. Have fun, Roger Les Jacobson wrote: After finally getting Mandrake Linux 8.0 to talk with my modem, I have tried to connect to my ISP. I am able to do so via windows but when I try via KPPP I get an error code (19) which seems to indicate that there is some sort of authentication issue. One person has suggested that this is due to some magic that windows 95, 98, NT and 2000 do but which Windows 3.1 and Linux do not do. Another person has suggested it might be an SSL issue. My ISP is quixnet.net. To the best of my knowledge (and ability) all of the required data has been set to the correct values (including userid and password). Can someone please shed some light on this situation? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19
Hi there, Have a look at 'man kppp' and you will get a list of errors and what they mean. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Les Jacobson Sent: 23 August 2001 03:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19 File: message.footer After finally getting Mandrake Linux 8.0 to talk with my modem, I have tried to connect to my ISP. I am able to do so via windows but when I try via KPPP I get an error code (19) which seems to indicate that there is some sort of authentication issue. One person has suggested that this is due to some magic that windows 95, 98, NT and 2000 do but which Windows 3.1 and Linux do not do. Another person has suggested it might be an SSL issue. My ISP is quixnet.net. To the best of my knowledge (and ability) all of the required data has been set to the correct values (including userid and password). Can someone please shed some light on this situation? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19
You might also want to make sure you are using the correct protocil, ie PAP or CHAP. -- Jamie -- From: R C[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 August 2001 04:42 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19 File: message.txt Les, I have had that problem ever since I changed to a new ISP. The problem, as I discovered, was that the ISP wanted me to use my full email address, in my dailer setup, when prompted for user name. My old ISP only required my user name - rlp4991 When I first tried to connect using Kppp, I got the same response as you did. Initially, during the setup process in Kppp, I had entered my user name as rlp4991. When I received error 19, I also found that it had to do with authentication. The ISP don't seem to know who I am. I went back and changed my user name to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now when I dial in, I connect. If your using Kppp to dail in, go to setup and change your user name to your full email address and see if you connect. I hope this helps for you as well. Roger Les Jacobson wrote: After finally getting Mandrake Linux 8.0 to talk with my modem, I have tried to connect to my ISP. I am able to do so via windows but when I try via KPPP I get an error code (19) which seems to indicate that there is some sort of authentication issue. One person has suggested that this is due to some magic that windows 95, 98, NT and 2000 do but which Windows 3.1 and Linux do not do. Another person has suggested it might be an SSL issue. My ISP is quixnet.net. To the best of my knowledge (and ability) all of the required data has been set to the correct values (including userid and password). Can someone please shed some light on this situation? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISP - KPPP - error 19
After finally getting Mandrake Linux 8.0 to talk with my modem, I have tried to connect to my ISP. I am able to do so via windows but when I try via KPPP I get an error code (19) which seems to indicate that there is some sort of authentication issue. One person has suggested that this is due to some magic that windows 95, 98, NT and 2000 do but which Windows 3.1 and Linux do not do. Another person has suggested it might be an SSL issue. My ISP is quixnet.net. To the best of my knowledge (and ability) all of the required data has been set to the correct values (including userid and password). Can someone please shed some light on this situation? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
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There's a 'good' reason why you can't connect, and JUNO gave you line of BS for two reason. 1) They don't know how their network works since they don't maintain it. 2) It's not in their best interest to tell the world how it works. My day job is working for Worldcom, which handles, literally 80% + of the worlds dial in service. When you dial in you hit Worldcom equipment. Once you've athenticated on our network, with the userID passwd supplied in the software, you're then sent to their network which you then have to athenticate there as well. To authenticate on our network we use PAP. From there, JUNO uses CHAP. (At least last I heard they do.) Now, if somebody were to create a tool to dialup like that, it would be nice, but I'm sure it would be illegal. If it's not, then a lot of people would hunt after them trying to sue! So... what I'd suggest, is break out your phone book. Look up Internet services and then find an ISP there. There are tons of advantages to doing this. 1) Local people who can referr you to local dealers. Local support groups. 2) Friendly support due to lack of volume. You call AOL or EarthLink and you spend a lot of time on hold. They have POPs all over the world, they're busy! 3) Reliable dialup pools for your area. Since AOL and others have sucked up such a huge market, the chance of getting busy signals are very low, and they're caused by TELCO issues, not capacity issues. 4) Price. Some of these places have unlimited accounts for $15-$20. And a direct feed to the Internet. NO proxies, no transparent proxies. Just you, your machine, your modem, and the Internet. 5) Any OS you want! I worked at a such an ISP for a year. We supported Mac OS 7.1+, Win3.x, Win9x, WinNT, *nix. Since most of those ISPs are *nix based, they usually have people that can help with a Linux box. There's a webpage that lists and rates ISPs, but I can't remember the URL. Maybe somebody knows of the link. I know I heard Martin on TechTV's ScreenSavers mention the URL and other ways to help. Check out their site, they may have it there and available. http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/ One other thing I'd suggest. Join a Linux Users Group. (LUG) Almost all of them have mailing lists. Local people who can suggest and swear by their ISP. People in your area to suggeset an ISP in your area. Hope that helps! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:38am up 6 days, 12:05, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | | Right now I have Juno as my dial up ISP. I tried connecting to Juno | by typing modem commands like, | | atdt . | | I get connected. When I enter the user/passwd it says there is a | user/passwd mismatch. I asked customer service and they said, | I have to use their dialing software because their dialing software | encryptes my password. | | So they said their software supports Windows only. | | Can anyone suggest me a dial up ISP where there is no kind of | special dialing software I am forced to use for encryption. This would help | me get connected to the internet from Linux. | | Regards, | | Karthigan. | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | | --
[newbie] ISP
Right now I have Juno as my dial up ISP. I tried connecting to Juno by typing modem commands like, atdt . I get connected. When I enter the user/passwd it says there is a user/passwd mismatch. I asked customer service and they said, I have to use their dialing software because their dialing software encryptes my password. So they said their software supports Windows only. Can anyone suggest me a dial up ISP where there is no kind of special dialing software I am forced to use for encryption. This would help me get connected to the internet from Linux. Regards, Karthigan. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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probly would help to know where you are (what country at least) I have use Earthlink for some time now, they are not much bettter than anyone else i guess, but i have no real problem connecting (after I fix all the stupid screwups I try at my end) On Wednesday 25 July 2001 17:04, karthigan srinivasan wrote: Right now I have Juno as my dial up ISP. I tried connecting to Juno by typing modem commands like, atdt . I get connected. When I enter the user/passwd it says there is a user/passwd mismatch. I asked customer service and they said, I have to use their dialing software because their dialing software encryptes my password. So they said their software supports Windows only. Can anyone suggest me a dial up ISP where there is no kind of special dialing software I am forced to use for encryption. This would help me get connected to the internet from Linux. Regards, Karthigan. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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I use bellsouth for dialup and adsl. Works great, only complaint is with their ng service. Of course that's the southern/southeastern US, yaw'. :-) -s On Wednesday 25 July 2001 04:04 pm, you wrote: Right now I have Juno as my dial up ISP. I tried connecting to Juno by typing modem commands like, atdt . I get connected. When I enter the user/passwd it says there is a user/passwd mismatch. I asked customer service and they said, I have to use their dialing software because their dialing software encryptes my password. So they said their software supports Windows only. Can anyone suggest me a dial up ISP where there is no kind of special dialing software I am forced to use for encryption. This would help me get connected to the internet from Linux. Regards, Karthigan. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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Kathleen Dickason wrote: Is there a way you can quote which message you're replying to? This gets pretty confusing... Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there How you do that depends on which email package your using. -paul r __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Er. No. I meant, is there a way (asking nicely) that _he_ could quote the message he was replying to. It was a polite request, not a plea for information... Didn't mean to confuse you. Kathleen Paul R wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: Is there a way you can quote which message you're replying to? This gets pretty confusing... Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there How you do that depends on which email package your using. -paul r __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there Aaaah yes...I remember...thank you. I'm up to speed again. It was late lastnight and I was having trouble putting the peices together. :) -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: The delete button is your friend...I use mine lots :) Kathleen Do you know how to recognize a russian keyboard? Has no ESCAPE key! Paul -- Q: What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back? A: A stick. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
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normally i do unless i am dead beat tired and just trying to get rid of mail In a message dated 09-Sep-00 10:18:27 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way you can quote which message you're replying to? This gets pretty confusing... Kathleen
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote: look i apologize now can we drop this bs -- I second that notion, this got way out of hand. Let it go. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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i guess russians dont know the meaning of escape, to busy defecting, lol In a message dated 09-Sep-00 11:34:21 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know how to recognize a russian keyboard? Has no ESCAPE key! Paul
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there -- I have the same sarcasm problem, but in the future, you need to note the sarcasm for people in the message, remember it is very hard to read feelings via e-mail. You may think you are being sarcastic, but another reader may see it differently. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Jason Ashman wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there -- I have the same sarcasm problem, but in the future, you need to note the sarcasm for people in the message, remember it is very hard to read feelings via e-mail. You may think you are being sarcastic, but another reader may see it differently. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com Very true. Roman
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My school has a program installed so you cant get into explorer. The run command is gone, right mouse button is disabled, all the desktop icons are gone. Its called winlock. If you ever use it, there is one hole. It is possible to reach explorer by useing the hyperterminal option. You cant do much once your there through, it does something funny with the shellexecute api. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP most kids get past stuff like that its called log on minimize it and run explorer, which by the way is part of windows os, so you will have a hard time trying to limit it
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, you wrote: This news group will now be renamed newbiepunctuationspelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honestly, it seems it used to be more civil. Gene -- OK, rip-boy...maybe if you learned punctuation and spelling in elementary school, I wouldn't have needed to read your post five times to get the message. I got the picture after reading it several times, I am sure I am not alone in this one...End of post. Rips will be respectfully declined. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com i think we should all be more tolerant of everybody else. i enjoy reading all kinds of stuff here. some of it is way over my head, but some is not. i think we definately all ned to learn to love each other. what do u think
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DRACONZNY/the sarcasimist: I guess it is a question of what you are trying to do. If all that you are trying to impress us with how kewl you are, keep it up. If, on the other hand, you are trying to communicate your thoughts and knowledge to the other members of the list (which is its purpose), than some attention to spelling, punctuation, grammar and the use of complete sentences would be appropriate. While e-mail is an informal medium, and no one expects perfect text book English, it is in a written form, so that the nuances of expression, gestures, inflection, and timing that are part of speech are not available. Remember, too, that for many of the participants, (American) English is an unfamiliar language. I'm sure that many of them would appreciate a few hints as to when one thought ends, and a second begins. Hell, I've been speaking the language for over 60 years, and I sometimes find it difficult to figger out wutz goin on. Norwegians. -- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree some people go overboard and it seemed like my writing was not that bad, however if one must combat spelling and punctuation heres a little news i dont care i use generalizations for my speaking it was purely like a bulleted listing of bugs i have in my box, but english teachers are always nazi's actually as a quote from my grandmother the nazi's were nicer! (oh is that the correct spelling for nicer) may i go to hell for my mispellings so whats it like in norway this time of year? lolol the sarcasimist DRACOZNY In a message dated 07-Sep-00 22:03:31 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This news group will now be renamed newbiepunctuationspelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honestly, it seems it used to be more civil. Gene -- OK, rip-boy...maybe if you learned punctuation and spelling in elementary school, I wouldn't have needed to read your post five times to get the message. I got the picture after reading it several times, I am sure I am not alone in this one...End of post. Rips will be respectfully declined. Jay
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darn mail server returned it, here it is again if i was communicating a thought on that particular message i would have tried to use a somewhat half assed english language, but i was merely spitting out my problem and information, no thought just bulleted listing, no different then a computer spitting out a problem, now lets see you convince linux to spit out perfect english when its saying im jacked up now in trying to be cool i could care less what people think i act the way i act if something annoys me i will give a sarcastic reply, if someone ticks me off well let the games begin i dont look for confrontations i seem to make them at times and i apologize, however i am who i am, love me hate me, but live with it in reply to: DRACONZNY/the sarcasimist: I guess it is a question of what you are trying to do. If all that you are trying to impress us with how kewl you are, keep it up. If, on the other hand, you are trying to communicate your thoughts and knowledge to the other members of the list (which is its purpose), than some attention to spelling, punctuation, grammar and the use of complete sentences would be appropriate. While e-mail is an informal medium, and no one expects perfect text book English, it is in a written form, so that the nuances of expression, gestures, inflection, and timing that are part of speech are not available. Remember, too, that for many of the participants, (American) English is an unfamiliar language. I'm sure that many of them would appreciate a few hints as to when one thought ends, and a second begins. Hell, I've been speaking the language for over 60 years, and I sometimes find it difficult to figger out wutz goin on. Norwegians. -- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree some people go overboard and it seemed like my writing was not that bad, however if one must combat spelling and punctuation heres a little news i dont care i use generalizations for my speaking it was purely like a bulleted listing of bugs i have in my box, but english teachers are always nazi's actually as a quote from my grandmother the nazi's were nicer! (oh is that the correct spelling for nicer) may i go to hell for my mispellings so whats it like in norway this time of year? lolol the sarcasimist DRACOZNY
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Hm...I get the distinct impression this post is dripping with sarcasm. :) Mark patrick wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, you wrote: This news group will now be renamed newbiepunctuationspelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honestly, it seems it used to be more civil. Gene -- OK, rip-boy...maybe if you learned punctuation and spelling in elementary school, I wouldn't have needed to read your post five times to get the message. I got the picture after reading it several times, I am sure I am not alone in this one...End of post. Rips will be respectfully declined. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com i think we should all be more tolerant of everybody else. i enjoy reading all kinds of stuff here. some of it is way over my head, but some is not. i think we definately all ned to learn to love each other. what do u think
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We should moderate this out. - Original Message - From: "Carroll Grigsby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP DRACONZNY/the sarcasimist: I guess it is a question of what you are trying to do. If all that you are trying to impress us with how kewl you are, keep it up. If, on the other hand, you are trying to communicate your thoughts and knowledge to the other members of the list (which is its purpose), than some attention to spelling, punctuation, grammar and the use of complete sentences would be appropriate. While e-mail is an informal medium, and no one expects perfect text book English, it is in a written form, so that the nuances of expression, gestures, inflection, and timing that are part of speech are not available. Remember, too, that for many of the participants, (American) English is an unfamiliar language. I'm sure that many of them would appreciate a few hints as to when one thought ends, and a second begins. Hell, I've been speaking the language for over 60 years, and I sometimes find it difficult to figger out wutz goin on. Norwegians. -- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree some people go overboard and it seemed like my writing was not that bad, however if one must combat spelling and punctuation heres a little news i dont care i use generalizations for my speaking it was purely like a bulleted listing of bugs i have in my box, but english teachers are always nazi's actually as a quote from my grandmother the nazi's were nicer! (oh is that the correct spelling for nicer) may i go to hell for my mispellings so whats it like in norway this time of year? lolol the sarcasimist DRACOZNY In a message dated 07-Sep-00 22:03:31 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This news group will now be renamed newbiepunctuationspelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honestly, it seems it used to be more civil. Gene -- OK, rip-boy...maybe if you learned punctuation and spelling in elementary school, I wouldn't have needed to read your post five times to get the message. I got the picture after reading it several times, I am sure I am not alone in this one...End of post. Rips will be respectfully declined. Jay
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yup yup anyways back onto the subject of my computer not functioning after xf86config In a message dated 08-Sep-00 21:16:13 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hm...I get the distinct impression this post is dripping with sarcasm. :) Mark
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look i apologize now can we drop this bs
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john bodanske wrote: We should moderate this out. - Original Message - From: "Carroll Grigsby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP DRACONZNY/the sarcasimist: Naah...moderating is what "big brother" does and that's the last thing we need on this list. If a poster get's to be a pain or anything a kill list is all one needs to filter things out on the receiving end. No moderation needed. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: look i apologize now can we drop this bs I'm sorry...what did I miss? What BS exactly would that be? :)_ -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496
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there is some moseration certain things you write will prevent your mail from being posted
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someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there
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In a message dated 07-Sep-00 06:17:38 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Ashman wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, you wrote: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it -- I think I speak for the entire group when I say.WHAT?!?!?!? Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com Jay, What he's saying here is that the display on his laptop is way off and the login screen is huge. I've seen this before on laptop installs cause the config he's chosen doesn't match the hardware he's got in the machine. He's going to have to continue to try different combinations of drivers until he comes up with a combination that works for his laptop. About a month ago I did an install for the CPA at work and spent 3 1/2 hours working on just getting the display correct using an acceptable color depth. It can be a real challenge to your patience and your Linux knowledge. -- Mark hey someone figured it out now since im slightly new can you tell me how to go about doing that, i tried drakconf while in kde but it seems to do nothing it looks exactly the same, no matter if i try 1400x1600 or go 540x640 my laptop is supposed to be 800x600 which is what i originally tried to install
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), Has anyone found a driver for a Crystal Sound fusion Card? Thanks Gordon
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What you have to do is a slow, tedious process, but you have to systematically try different combinations of Monitor, displayb settings and video card until you find the correct combo. OR Setup as your hardware dictates as far as your card and display requirments go and choose the lowest color depth available and go from there. That was what finally worked on our CPA's machine. As soon as I lowered the color depth it worked fine. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 07-Sep-00 06:17:38 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Ashman wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, you wrote: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it -- I think I speak for the entire group when I say.WHAT?!?!?!? Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com Jay, What he's saying here is that the display on his laptop is way off and the login screen is huge. I've seen this before on laptop installs cause the config he's chosen doesn't match the hardware he's got in the machine. He's going to have to continue to try different combinations of drivers until he comes up with a combination that works for his laptop. About a month ago I did an install for the CPA at work and spent 3 1/2 hours working on just getting the display correct using an acceptable color depth. It can be a real challenge to your patience and your Linux knowledge. -- Mark hey someone figured it out now since im slightly new can you tell me how to go about doing that, i tried drakconf while in kde but it seems to do nothing it looks exactly the same, no matter if i try 1400x1600 or go 540x640 my laptop is supposed to be 800x600 which is what i originally tried to install
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I can get past those kiddy things. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP And doesn't AOL own Compuserve. They bought it a few years ago, but I'm not sure if they still own it. F.Y.I. (before we start a range war on this) I use AOL because of the kid restrictions, and because I haven't had the time to get my modem working in linux [I sent a separate replyquestion re. modems earlier today]. It works until something better... -Gary- In a message dated 9/4/2000 4:06:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Compuserve IS AOL. They have the same basic premise. Crappy service with crappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make Compuserve work with Linux. Jay
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, you wrote: Jason Ashman wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, you wrote: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it -- I think I speak for the entire group when I say.WHAT?!?!?!? Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com Jay, What he's saying here is that the display on his laptop is way off and the login screen is huge. I've seen this before on laptop installs cause the config he's chosen doesn't match the hardware he's got in the machine. He's going to have to continue to try different combinations of drivers until he comes up with a combination that works for his laptop. About a month ago I did an install for the CPA at work and spent 3 1/2 hours working on just getting the display correct using an acceptable color depth. It can be a real challenge to your patience and your Linux knowledge. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 -- Thanks, I was just bogged down by the sentence structure. Pardon my idiocy. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, you wrote: In a message dated 07-Sep-00 00:41:35 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it -- I think I speak for the entire group when I say.WHAT?!?!?!? i m going to try and not say anything offensive, but when you log in with x windows the login window is too damn big! if this confuses you then you need to go back to elementry school, for everyone else i apologize for the rudeness and respectfully request your assistance please -- OK, rip-boy...maybe if you learned punctuation and spelling in elementary school, I wouldn't have needed to read your post five times to get the message. I got the picture after reading it several times, I am sure I am not alone in this one...End of post. Rips will be respectfully declined. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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most kids get past stuff like that its called log on minimize it and run explorer, which by the way is part of windows os, so you will have a hard time trying to limit it
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it Sounds like you don't have X-windows configured correctly yet. I did a laptop install for the CPA where I work and his acted like that for a little while until I convinced it otherwise. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496
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Or like my school useing a 700mhz system for word processing, and not
allowing me to install some games. But they did let the pokénuts
install a 5
minute recording of 'the pikachu song' to play on startup.
I had a similar problem a few years ago with one of the companies I
worked for. I originally had a 486DX33 (at the time this was bleeding
edge!) for my programming work - when I first got it, this was by far
the most powerful machine in the company. Over the years, the company
upgraded the other users, but refused to upgrade mine ("no money
available for that..."). I ended up writing a report to the CEO
pointing out that by using my own personal machine at home I could get
more work done in 2.5 hours than I could on the works machine in a week
(most of my time was spent waiting for the machine) and that if they had
supplied the machine I'd asked for, when I'd asked for it, the machine
would have paid for itself many times over already in saved labor costs.
I had the new machine two days later #;-D
Regards,
Ozz.
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And doesn't AOL own Compuserve. They bought it a few years ago, but I'm not sure if they still own it. F.Y.I. (before we start a range war on this) I use AOL because of the kid restrictions, and because I haven't had the time to get my modem working in linux [I sent a separate replyquestion re. modems earlier today]. It works until something better... -Gary- In a message dated 9/4/2000 4:06:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Compuserve IS AOL. They have the same basic premise. Crappy service with crappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make Compuserve work with Linux. Jay
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: And doesn't AOL own Compuserve. They bought it a few years ago, but I'm not sure if they still own it. F.Y.I. (before we start a range war on this) I use AOL because of the kid restrictions, and because I haven't had the time to get my modem working in linux [I sent a separate replyquestion re. modems earlier today]. It works until something better... -Gary- In a message dated 9/4/2000 4:06:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Compuserve IS AOL. They have the same basic premise. Crappy service with crappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make Compuserve work with Linux. Jay one of the greatest parts of linux is that u are not limited to just one choice. i guess when u think of it one choice is no choice at all.
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AOL owns Compuserve's customer base...Worldcom owns the old Compuserve physical network.. Rob On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: And doesn't AOL own Compuserve. They bought it a few years ago, but I'm not sure if they still own it. F.Y.I. (before we start a range war on this) I use AOL because of the kid restrictions, and because I haven't had the time to get my modem working in linux [I sent a separate replyquestion re. modems earlier today]. It works until something better... -Gary- In a message dated 9/4/2000 4:06:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Compuserve IS AOL. They have the same basic premise. Crappy service with crappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make Compuserve work with Linux. Jay
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you convinced it otherwise, how i have been screwing around with the utility and nothing changes
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, you wrote: my laptop says designed foe windows 98, well i run linux on it too i just have a couple bugs no drivers for modem (its not a win modem windows had no clue what it was till i got drivers for it) and my sound card (crystal sound fusion card), last bug the little windows like for log in and such are huge login itself under xwindows takes up almost a quarter of my screen if not more, and fiddling with the resolution doesnt change it -- I think I speak for the entire group when I say.WHAT?!?!?!? Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Ozz said: I still find this sort of thing a little strange. Generally the kind of people who know enough about systems to run Linux want REAL ISPs, not wannabee ISPs like AOL/Compu$erve. I reply: I mostly agree with you but =) i use CS from way back in the day when CS was for computer geeks, and when it was a good service. when i started on computers i never called a tech line once, got all my support thru CS, especially for Logitech (spelling?) products. it was great. i must agree with you now. when AOL brought CS i thought i was gonna cry. it sucks today. i stick with it only because i want to keep my email address as everyone has it. i haven't tried to connect yet, so i don't know if it can be done (under linux). i have to buy a real modem first. winmodems... gotta love 'em. when i bought my PC i wondered what that little "designed for Windows 98" sticker on it ment. now i know. *groan* Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I mostly agree with you but =) i use CS from way back in the day when CS was for computer geeks, and when it was a good service. when i started on computers i never called a tech line once, got all my support thru CS, especially for Logitech (spelling?) products. it was great. i must agree with you now. when AOL brought CS i thought i was gonna cry. it sucks today. i stick with it only because i want to keep my email address as everyone has it. i haven't tried to connect yet, so i don't know if it can be done (under linux). i have to buy a real modem first. winmodems... gotta love 'em. when i bought my PC i wondered what that little "designed for Windows 98" sticker on it ment. now i know. *groan* Compu$erve was always little more than a glorified BBS. However, back then there was little choice, and Compu$erve was, as you say, the best of the bunch, if a little pricey. The trouble was, Compu$erve never really moved with the times. They were always slow, and always expensive compared to the others. The vast majority of Compu$erve users today probably fall into two categories. The 'old timers' who keep it rather than lose their e-mail address (as in your case) and the newbies who don't know any better. I can fully sympathize with you about your e-mail address. When I left the UK I had to quit my old account, and was heartbroken at losing the e-mail address that had been my trademark for close to a decade. It was like the death of a close friend. In fact, I am seriously considering re-instating my old account if my finances allow within the required timescale! The advantages of unlimited mailbox size, unlimited e-mail addresses, etc. are very tempting, even though I would never be dialling into the account (just remotely logging onto the POP3 server). As for AOL, quite apart from the crap service, there are WAY too many lamerz on it. It can therefore be very difficult to be taken seriously. I actually know quite a few people who have the aol.com domain in their killfile - ALL messages from AOL accounts are deleted unread! Go figure... Regards, Ozz.
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Adrian, If you want to get a non-winmodem you'd better hurry up and get one cause I think there's but one company left making them. I hear that soon there won't be any. I believe 3Com/USRobotics is still making them, but for how much longer is a mystery. Mark Adrian Smith wrote: Ozz said: I still find this sort of thing a little strange. Generally the kind of people who know enough about systems to run Linux want REAL ISPs, not wannabee ISPs like AOL/Compu$erve. I reply: I mostly agree with you but =) i use CS from way back in the day when CS was for computer geeks, and when it was a good service. when i started on computers i never called a tech line once, got all my support thru CS, especially for Logitech (spelling?) products. it was great. i must agree with you now. when AOL brought CS i thought i was gonna cry. it sucks today. i stick with it only because i want to keep my email address as everyone has it. i haven't tried to connect yet, so i don't know if it can be done (under linux). i have to buy a real modem first. winmodems... gotta love 'em. when i bought my PC i wondered what that little "designed for Windows 98" sticker on it ment. now i know. *groan* Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP Adrian, If you want to get a non-winmodem you'd better hurry up and get one cause I think there's but one company left making them. I hear that soon there won't be any. I believe 3Com/USRobotics is still making them, but for how much longer is a mystery. Mark Where did you get this mis-information? 3Com has said that the will stop making modens but there will still be many companies making hardware modems. Actiontec Zoom Hayes Best Data Pace Various multis such as Creative and Diamond. And these I,m listing just off the top of my head. Charles :-)
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP Adrian, If you want to get a non-winmodem you'd better hurry up and get one cause I think there's but one company left making them. I hear that soon there won't be any. I believe 3Com/USRobotics is still making them, but for how much longer is a mystery. Mark Where did you get this mis-information? 3Com has said that the will stop making modens but there will still be many companies making hardware modems. Actiontec Zoom Hayes Best Data Pace Various multis such as Creative and Diamond. And these I,m listing just off the top of my head. Charles :-) i have a creative blaster, external, i hope they're not going out of business. what would happen to my soundlblaster. :) i just love Linux. i even have a little penguin on my desk, do u ?
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where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base
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any ISP will function under linux except perhaps aol. all you have to do...is configure your kppp app correctly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
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Listing the current ISPs is getting redundant... here's a link to a message board dedicated to free ISPs http://www5.50megs.com/fnc/ --Greg where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
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Try accessing from a windows machine and running the program Winipcfg (in c:\windows) It will tell you your current ip number but more important also your DNS numbers. Write them down. In your setup of kppp in linux you can now enter this information but only fill in info about DNS and perhaps gateway. Let it decide the ip number itself. This is really all you need. regards Mads - Original Message - From: "KompuKit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP any ISP will function under linux except perhaps aol. all you have to do...is configure your kppp app correctly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ISP Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:19:20 EDT Isp for linux, you mean one that works with your linux box, they all do i think, when i signed up or my isp , they sent me all my account info e.g. DNS server info to put in my configuration settings and i connected without any problems, don't know if that's what you mean, might help though. Robert. where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: any ISP will function under linux except perhaps aol. all you have to do...is configure your kppp app correctly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is there an isp for linux, and dont send me to whatever.UK im referring to the states, near chicago, in this god forsaken naval base -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- I use Epix and it is all a very simple matter of entering the correct DNS servers, etc. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: well i have compuserve in a 3 yr contract (shivers at self stupidity) i was just trying to figure out if i could get it working on linux, it would make it easier then downloading with windoze and opening the file with linux -- Compuserve IS AOL. They have the same basic premise. Crappy service with crappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make Compuserve work with Linux. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Rcrappy software on crappy windoze boxes. There is no way you can make RCompuserve work with Linux. Why not? CompuServe can be made to run on an OS/2 box. If you look hard enough, there are even software that alow you to connect to AOL under linux, though I don't remember where. So, if people are writing software to allow AOL to run on a linux box, someone is/has probably developed some software to allow you to connect with CompuServe. Search www.freshmeat.net for CompuServe. Jason Pierce
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Why not? CompuServe can be made to run on an OS/2 box. If you look hard enough, there are even software that alow you to connect to AOL under linux, though I don't remember where. So, if people are writing software to allow AOL to run on a linux box, someone is/has probably developed some software to allow you to connect with CompuServe. Search www.freshmeat.net for CompuServe. I still find this sort of thing a little strange. Generally the kind of people who know enough about systems to run Linux want REAL ISPs, not wannabee ISPs like AOL/Compu$erve. Kinda like setting up a 2.5Ghz Pentium V to run Pong... Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz.
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: Why not? CompuServe can be made to run on an OS/2 box. If you look hard enough, there are even software that alow you to connect to AOL under linux, though I don't remember where. So, if people are writing software to allow AOL to run on a linux box, someone is/has probably developed some software to allow you to connect with CompuServe. Search www.freshmeat.net for CompuServe. I still find this sort of thing a little strange. Generally the kind of people who know enough about systems to run Linux want REAL ISPs, not wannabee ISPs like AOL/Compu$erve. Kinda like setting up a 2.5Ghz Pentium V to run Pong... Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz. -- That was my whole point. Why limit yourself or make it a hassle to run AOL or CompuServe when you can cancel the service and get another ISP that allows you to use whatever browser/e-mail/dial-up software you prefer/ Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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RJust my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) R RRegards, ROzz. 6.5% ?!?!? Us here in TX are stuck with 8.25% Jason
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- Original Message - From: "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie Linux List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP Why not? CompuServe can be made to run on an OS/2 box. If you look hard enough, there are even software that alow you to connect to AOL under linux, though I don't remember where. So, if people are writing software to allow AOL to run on a linux box, someone is/has probably developed some software to allow you to connect with CompuServe. Search www.freshmeat.net for CompuServe. I still find this sort of thing a little strange. Generally the kind of people who know enough about systems to run Linux want REAL ISPs, not wannabee ISPs like AOL/Compu$erve. Kinda like setting up a 2.5Ghz Pentium V to run Pong... Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz. You use what you have access to. Some of us don't have multipule choice regarding ISP's or cable TV for that matter. It took 7 years to get cable TV up here in the mountains yet we have 5 ISP's to choose from. Go figure. And AOL is the largest ISP corporation in the word. That hardly rates as a wannabe. chris Dual Boot Windows Millennium/Mandrake 7.1 (helium) Home of the BURMA CAVE! BBS. 24/7 dial up 520-772-4551 An Excalibur Communication System GUI Bulletin Board Registered Linux user 184803 ICQ 1724999
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Sorry - meant to send this to the list, but sent it personally instead. My apologies to Chris, who will now get two copies... You use what you have access to. Some of us don't have multipule choice regarding ISP's or cable TV for that matter. It took 7 years to get cable TV up here in the mountains yet we have 5 ISP's to choose from. Go figure. And AOL is the largest ISP corporation in the word. That hardly rates as a wannabe. The reason I class AOL as wannabees is that they do not offer 'proper' access like the other providers do. By that I mean (for example) everything requires their own software - you don't have the access freedom of the majority of other ISPs. For the record, of all the ISPs I've tried, the best (in my opinion) was Demon Internet Ltd in the UK (http://www.demon.net). For less than 20 bucks a month I got a static IP address, my own host name with unlimited e-mail addresses (I had total control of EVERYTHING to the left of the 'at' sign - great for running my own mailing lists!), 25mb web space, no mailbox size limits, FULL news coverage (none of the message size restrictions of BellSouth), etc. I could even host my web pages on my own home computer if I wished (I did this for a while). That gave me (effectively) unlimited storage. That, to me, is a REAL ISP. The rest come a very poor second. I just wish I could get such service here at a sensible price... Regards, Ozz.
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: Kinda like setting up a 2.5Ghz Pentium V to run Pong... but it's a full virtual reality 3d 16 billion color multi player network version. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
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well im stuck in a 3 year contract i might as well make the most of it
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cancel and pay $300 do to a contract i think not
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we all want an isp that does plain network access but it rarely ever happens now adays, freewwweb.com used to be an awesome network based internet access and guess what they sold out to juno so now you have to install their software which was designed for windows, we have to make sacrifices sometimes and well every isp in my are requires software for windows, all i want to do is find a linux version of that software or hook it up in some manner!
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: we all want an isp that does plain network access but it rarely ever happens now adays, freewwweb.com used to be an awesome network based internet access and guess what they sold out to juno so now you have to install their software which was designed for windows, we have to make sacrifices sometimes and well every isp in my are requires software for windows, all i want to do is find a linux version of that software or hook it up in some manner! i have never heard of an isp that required windows, but then on the other hand i never thought of it before. i just thought that the requirement was to be able to dial in with most. not aol or compuserve or places like that
Re: [[newbie] ISP NETSCAPE]
Look also at your resolv.conf AFTER (while) the connection with your KWvDial. He must be changed by your dialer. See what happen. Eric Michael Scottaline wrote: "Jeffrey Buckley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got my computer to dial out connect to an ISP. I used KWvDial. Then once I connect, Netscape says that I'm not connected. Any Suggestions? Thanks! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == Edit your /etc/resolv.conf add: search your isp nameserver dns# nameserver dns# Your ISP should provide you with two dns #'s HTH, Mike ~~~ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." --Tom Waits ~~~ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] ISP NETSCAPE
I finally got my computer to dial out connect to an ISP. I used KWvDial. Two problems. I can only connect in root login. I don't know how to set permissions so I can do it as user. Then once I connect, Netscape says that I'm not connected. Any Suggestions? Thanks! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] ISP NETSCAPE
I finally got my computer to dial out connect to an ISP. I used KWvDial. Two problems. I can only connect in root login. I don't know how to set permissions so I can do it as user. Then once I connect, Netscape says that I'm not connected. Any Suggestions? Thanks! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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IN KDE: from a term run netcf when the screen comes up find your ppp0 adapter check its properties...somewhere in there is a checkbox that says Allow any user to disconnect/connect this service...or something like that.. another thing you can do is log in as root (stay in console) establish the connection either manually: #ifup ppp0 or via Kppp or whatever you are using in KDE shudown KDE then hit the keys CTR-ALT and F2 it should bring you to another log in screen..log in as a user and away ya go :) this assumes that you are not booting to a GUI prompt but rather a console prompt. Same problems I had when I started off with linux Kat Jeffrey Buckley wrote: I finally got my computer to dial out connect to an ISP. I used KWvDial. Two problems. I can only connect in root login. I don't know how to set permissions so I can do it as user. Then once I connect, Netscape says that I'm not connected. Any Suggestions? Thanks! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Jeffrey Buckley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got my computer to dial out connect to an ISP. I used KWvDial. Then once I connect, Netscape says that I'm not connected. Any Suggestions? Thanks! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == Edit your /etc/resolv.conf add: search your isp nameserver dns# nameserver dns# Your ISP should provide you with two dns #'s HTH, Mike ~~~ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." --Tom Waits ~~~ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, you wrote: One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com. I'm not sure of the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it. This one is good, because you don't need any software. You sign up and get a pop3 account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with. Don J. It's www.freewwweb.com. You have to have there home page set as the home page of your browser. You cannot stay on more than5 hours at a time or 80 hours a month, but they allow you to open multiple accounts. Michelle
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Paul what he means is a free one where certain windows files wont run in Linux :) And a lot of the ISPs just make sure that a windows dilaup will work with their server. - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, The Buckster wrote: Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! An ISP is not depending on a certain OS. (If the ISP was, they should be taken out of business ;) Paul )0(---)0( Atheism: a non-prophet organization. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Try www.freewwweb.com - Original Message - From: The Buckster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 3:52 PM Subject: [newbie] ISP Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Some more resource or ISP. http://www.lights.com/freenet/ http://members.tripod.com/~mom_dads/mom_dads11.htm http://www.dialfree.net/additionalaccess.asp http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Commercial_Services/Access_Providers/Free_Internet_Access/ At 15:18 00-05-01 -0500, you wrote: These are some that have shown up on this list, I have not tried any as I have not been able to dial out with Linux. Check them out and let us know what you have found, if anything. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features http://www.worldshare.net http:www.nocharge.com On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:52:47 -0500 The Buckster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess. - Look, I'm a computer programmer. I don't have time for girls, but a talking frog is very very cool. ...and on the seventh day, God turned off his Macintosh. -Anonymous Oh ... so THAT what wrong with the world! -Jean-Sebastien Gasse
[newbie] isp once again
i am sorry for asking this again but i need a free isp to dial into through linux...thanks i am running mandrake 7.0... === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Found it: http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/ Good luck! Don J. On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, "Don W. Jenkins" wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:59:42 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Don W. Jenkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com. I'm not sure of the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it. This one is good, because you don't need any software. You sign up and get a pop3 account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with. Don J. At 05:22 PM 4/30/00 -0400, you wrote: Also another i saw with no ads but havent used http://www.isps-free.com/ - Original Message - From: doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is called freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it tell me what you think. === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === - Original Message - From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [newbie] ISP Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- My dual-boot system Works better than my Z And isn't as greasey. Do Good Stuff! 8^)
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Actually, I have stayed on longer than 5 hours, so I'm not sure how they keep track of your time--by the day or by the month. But it is fairly easy to get two or three accounts and then switch off from one day to the next or even the same day. No reason to pay. Don J. On Mon, 1 May 2000, Michelle Schneider wrote: Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:29:45 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michelle Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, you wrote: One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com. I'm not sure of the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it. This one is good, because you don't need any software. You sign up and get a pop3 account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with. Don J. It's www.freewwweb.com. You have to have there home page set as the home page of your browser. You cannot stay on more than5 hours at a time or 80 hours a month, but they allow you to open multiple accounts. Michelle -- My dual-boot system Works better than my Z And isn't as greasey. Do Good Stuff! 8^)
Re: [newbie] isp once again
ignore this...this took a long long time to come through for some reason... === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === - Original Message - From: "Doom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: [newbie] isp once again i am sorry for asking this again but i need a free isp to dial into through linux...thanks i am running mandrake 7.0... === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
[newbie] ISP
Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is called freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it tell me what you think. === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === - Original Message - From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [newbie] ISP Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Also another i saw with no ads but havent used http://www.isps-free.com/ - Original Message - From: doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is called freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it tell me what you think. === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === - Original Message - From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [newbie] ISP Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com. I'm not sure of the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it. This one is good, because you don't need any software. You sign up and get a pop3 account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with. Don J. At 05:22 PM 4/30/00 -0400, you wrote: Also another i saw with no ads but havent used http://www.isps-free.com/ - Original Message - From: doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is called freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it tell me what you think. === You know you've been hacking too long when... ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!" === - Original Message - From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [newbie] ISP Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, The Buckster wrote: Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that there's quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a DSL connection... Appreciate the help! An ISP is not depending on a certain OS. (If the ISP was, they should be taken out of business ;) Paul )0(---)0( Atheism: a non-prophet organization. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] ISP for Linux
Try Earthlink/MindSpring. $19.95 a month will get you unlimited service on a local number and great tech support as well as customer service on a toll free number. Brad On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html
[newbie] ISP for Linux
I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html
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Where are you located? I would just get some local ISP in your area that gives good deals until some company writes up the code for a Linux free ISP. The one in my area is $5 a month for 20 hours, $12 for unlimited. It beats the heck out of AOL. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Classification: UNCLASSIFIED try mindspring they are national awesome tech support, I used to use them Seth Hollen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen F. Bosch Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP for Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! Just find a good local ISP that doesn't use proprietary protocols... all TCP/IP -- and you'll be fine. -Stephen-
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Not sure where your at, but I'm using JPSnet and they've been great. If you pay for the year, it comes to $11.50 @ month with 3 email accounts, 20MB web space, and unlimited usage (though if you're not active for 12 minutes, you get kicked off - which you really shouldn't be wasting bandwidth if you're not doing anything anyway). If you keep a month to month contract, it's $14.95 @ month for the same service. I've also given them an extra $11 for the year and received and extra 20MB of web space, a CGI bin with perl and C++ support and one more email account. It's pretty hard to beat that. The best thing is, there servers are Unix, so transfering files from Linux is a breeze! Check them out at: http://www.jps.net Mike "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still looking for a Linux ISP for myself. I've contacted A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/#features"TCI: FreeWWWeb 4 Linux/A , and have received no response from them, and looked into A HREF="http://www.nocharge.com/"nocharge.com/A , but they only have numbers for Oregon and Washington... Can anyone give an a good ISP for Linux...I'm ready to dump AOL!!! Just find a good local ISP that doesn't use proprietary protocols... all TCP/IP -- and you'll be fine. -Stephen- -- This is Unix country... On a quiet night, you can hear windows crashing. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] ISP connection good...FIRE BAD
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: Boy, people thought I was a 'puter geek when I was using windoze... After several re-installs and reconfigurations of internet sofware, I think I've finally gotten pretty close to where I'd like to be. I can use my ISP connection as an unpriveleged user! Linux also doesn't gobble 73% of my HD. I'm learning alot, and when I get some more cash, I'll be getting some better books. I guess my "Mastering Windows 95" book is pretty useless now as well as "The Expert Guide...". This has been somewhat fun, if not frustrating for me and my family. I'm learning alot, and am thinking about finding another ISP that offers Linux/Unix support. There's plenty of smaller ISP's, and I'd think some of them would be more inclined to offer support. Mindspring tries to help, but let's face it, Linux hasn't quite gotten the market share as Microsoft and Mac. JoshI work for a LOCAL ISP in Chattanooga. We're also proponents of the Linux alternative. We've helped one or two people configure their Linux boxes for dialing into Mindspring. Standard PPP stuff works with Mindspring. :-) If you'd like to contact me off-list (or even on-list...just trying to help conserve bandwidth G) I'll be glad to try and help you with anything you need to configure Linux for Mindspring. :-) John
Re: [newbie] ISP connection good...FIRE BAD
josh mccaffrey wrote: Boy, people thought I was a 'puter geek when I was using windoze... After several re-installs and reconfigurations of internet sofware, I think I've finally gotten pretty close to where I'd like to be. I can use my ISP connection as an unpriveleged user! Linux also doesn't gobble 73% of my HD. I'm learning alot, and when I get some more cash, I'll be getting some better books. I guess my "Mastering Windows 95" book is pretty useless now as well as "The Expert Guide...". This has been somewhat fun, if not frustrating for me and my family. I'm learning alot, and am thinking about finding another ISP that offers Linux/Unix support. There's plenty of smaller ISP's, and I'd think some of them would be more inclined to offer support. Mindspring tries to help, but let's face it, Linux hasn't quite gotten the market share as Microsoft and Mac. Josh Atlanta, GA I would have to highly recommend Corecomm.net as an ISP that provides support to the Unix/Linux community. They were and have been very helpful as well as providing the necessary info to setup my ppp connection. Jim
