Re: [newbie] Install Problems
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600 John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to run at all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be happening? I've been having similar problems. I use the 852 chipset, which is supposed to be similar to the 855. Might want to take a look at an earlier thread where I asked about this: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution and also: [newbie] Zoomed display in GUI If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and we'll see what we can do. -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 18:30, Lee Wiggers wrote: Simple answer for this: PARTITION MAGIC Or try even, Partition Surprise: GPLed Partition Magic clone ...who said I *PAID* for my copies of Partition Magic...? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The temperature of the aqueous content of an unremittingly ogled culinary vessel will not achieve 100 degrees on the Celsius scale. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list archives. But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this list archived somewhere other than: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ -john smith Job Evers wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600 John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to run at all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be happening? I've been having similar problems. I use the 852 chipset, which is supposed to be similar to the 855. Might want to take a look at an earlier thread where I asked about this: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution and also: [newbie] Zoomed display in GUI If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and we'll see what we can do. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:21, John A. Smith wrote: I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list archives. But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this list archived somewhere other than: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ Yup - it's surprising what you'll find on the TWiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailingLists Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWhz6kFAvMr/nNX8RArAqAJ9fheiH6m5IWySOX3bBVIo6ourITACfRc8/ ngpfH1OL8pVi/BDHJJu2KOs= =Dgho -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:21:24 -0600 John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list archives. But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this list archived somewhere other than: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ -john smith A listing of the sites that keep an archive: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailingLists The twiki is a good source of information, and it seems to improve every time I visit it. Job Evers wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600 John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to runat all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be happening? I've been having similar problems. I use the 852 chipset, which is supposed to be similar to the 855. Might want to take a look at an earlier thread where I asked about this: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution and also: [newbie] Zoomed display in GUI If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and we'll see what we can do. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Install Problems
I have an Averatec 5110H laptop - 1.3 GHZ Centrino, Intel 855x graphics card, 512MB RAM, 40 GB HD, Intel 2100 integrated wireless - that I have been trying to install Mandrake on. During the install process I could only get DiskDrake to resize my windows partition down to 34GB. I had defragmented thoroughly, turning of hibernate mode and virtual memory, and there was only about 8 Gb of data on the drive but it wouldn't let me shrink Windows down any smaller. I've tried to reinstall both 9.2 and 10 with the same results Is there another tool I can use to resize Windows without losing the data? Is there something else I need to turn off when I defrag? Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to run at all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be happening? Any input is appreciated. -john smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] install problems with Mandrake 9.1 on a Mac 8600 w/G3 upgrade
Hi everyone! I am new tothis list and I hope someone can help me on this problem I am trying to install Linux mandrake on a Mac 8600 which has a newertech maxpowr G3 300Mhz processor 497megs of ram. It also has a ATI Rage 128 video card installed, 30GB Harddrive w/ mac os 9.0 The problem is that when I try to boot into Linux Mandrake it comes to a point and tells me that it can't find my cdrom? I am useing bootx 1.2.2 I have tryed to install it several times,I am about ready to give up. I would be grateful If I got any help on this. Thanks Jim -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] !!! Install problems on compaq server!!!
Hi there all. I am a totally newbie folks, and I have tried to install Mandrake 9.1 on a old compac Pentium server (Prosignia 500) with 160 Mb ram. The problem is that Mandrake only detects 16Mb of ram for some reason all thou the system counts 160Mb on POST. The memory consists of 16 Mb onboard (soldered directly to the main board) and 72 pins simm for the rest. I have tried the option by hitting F1 during startup and write linux mem=160M but after some seconds Mandrake replies: Kernel Panic: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03, and there it hangs I hope there are someone who can help me with an advice what to do.. In advance, thanks Terje.. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: [newbie] Install problems
At 11:07 PM 6/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2003 01:44 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I'll send the pics to you offlist and everything will become clear as mud. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ sendy pls to me too! ? :) - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems, OT Speaking of cable select on HDDs
At 10:17 PM 6/21/2003 -0700, you wrote: CableSelect is a function of the controller, not the hd. Very few controllers use the CS function (I've never owned one, nor even seen one, so I can only take it on face value that they exist). e so wtf.. my manual says you can use it..but it didn't work?... i give up. Thx E! - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
If the master and slave jumpers are set correctly, position on the cable is immaterial. For cable select setting, end connector is master, middle connector is slave. Maxtor drives (and all Dell computers) now come set as cable select by default. Ian On June 21, 2003 11:19 am, Andy Davidson wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:22AM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's end connector, not the middle one. That I didn't know. Why? andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:55:46 -0700 Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide (ide0). Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was the master position - actually it's cable select. Thanks for the kick start From my brand spankin' new 9.1 install, Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Saturday June 21 2003 04:59 am, C. Tresenriter wrote: and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide (ide0). Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was the master position - actually it's cable select. Yeah CS won't do :) But also check that you don't have two different master positions for the jumper. Some drives have different positions depending on if you have a slave on the same cable. Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's end connector, not the middle one. Actually I'm surprised you got as far as you did with it set to CS -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:22AM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's end connector, not the middle one. That I didn't know. Why? andy -- Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems, OT Speaking of cable select on HDDs
At 04:59 AM 6/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:55:46 -0700 Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide (ide0). Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was the master position - actually it's cable select. Thanks for the kick start From my brand spankin' new 9.1 install, Curt commence hijack I understood that newer drives on newer mobos can use cable select with no problems. Well I've had zip luck with this. Ideas? - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
At 08:21 PM 6/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I got the new disk form Maxtor today and have just made five attempts at
installing 9.1 - the last one using rc2 or 3 - the install was smooth but on
reboot, got this :
EXT3-fs error (device ide0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read
inode block - inode=259114
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
The last attempt with the power pack ended with this these 15 lines:
ide0:reset: success
hda: dma_initr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hda: dma_initr error=0x84 {DriceStatusError Bad CRC} end_request: I/O
error dev 03:01 (hda) sector 1154352
EXT3-fs error (device ide-0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read
inode block - inode=719489, block 1441794
repeats last two lines four more times... then
ide0:reset success
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
6 keyboard: unknown scancode e0 7a
I've had 9.1 installed successfully on this machine several times.
I understand that kernel panic is usually hardware related but that
doesn't make sense as there's no change in any hardware... except the new
hard disk.
Do one of you gurus have a clue for me?
Thanks in advance
Your new HDD came with a diskette. It has utility on it to low level
format the drive. I'd do that first. Fair warning: If your hard drive is
over 30gb it will take several hours at best...overnight probably...but
that will reset the whole thing if there are any weird blocks on the
platters. IOW It makes it as if it were blank again at factory
default. Thats the first thing i'd do/try.
-
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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert
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Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 01:19, Andy Davidson wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:22AM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's end connector, not the middle one. That I didn't know. Why? andy Because by setting a jumpered MASTER/SLAVE you're not leaving yourself open to problems with software or BIOS. -- Sun Jun 22 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 18:30, 5 users, load average: 3.38, 2.94, 2.54 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Your mother seems really upset. I better go have a talk with her -- during the commercial. -- Homer Simpson Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(annoyed grunt)ocious Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Saturday 21 June 2003 01:44 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I also vaguely remember somethin about cable length and that the distances for master and slave are purposely different (resistance), and that controllers and the drives firmware take this into account. Master expects to be 18 wire length from the motherboard connector to approximate a constant resistance factor. Okay, I've got several I'll go ahead and switch them back, in the interest of safety. I'm not convinced that's because of cable mods, but yeah send me the pics. As long as the case can take in cool air low from the rear or side, and exhaust heat at the top front or back, I fail to see how cables get involved. If that's an AMD cpu runnin at 35-37C under normal load, then you're temps are not being properly reported, or your usin water cooling ;) If it's Intel, it's about the norm. Er, sorry - the two are not related! I was just asking about the cables, the heat problem was something else entirely! :-) I'll send the pics to you offlist and everything will become clear as mud. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems, OT Speaking of cable select on HDDs
CableSelect is a function of the controller, not the hd. Very few controllers use the CS function (I've never owned one, nor even seen one, so I can only take it on face value that they exist). e On Saturday 21 June 2003 02:18 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: I understood that newer drives on newer mobos can use cable select with no problems. Well I've had zip luck with this. Ideas? - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install problems
I got the new disk form Maxtor today and have just made five attempts at installing
9.1 - the last one using rc2 or 3 - the install was smooth but on
reboot, got this :
EXT3-fs error (device ide0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block -
inode=259114
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
The last attempt with the power pack ended with this these 15 lines:
ide0:reset: success
hda: dma_initr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hda: dma_initr error=0x84 {DriceStatusError Bad CRC} end_request: I/O error dev 03:01
(hda) sector 1154352
EXT3-fs error (device ide-0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block -
inode=719489, block 1441794
repeats last two lines four more times... then
ide0:reset success
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
6 keyboard: unknown scancode e0 7a
I've had 9.1 installed successfully on this machine several times.
I understand that kernel panic is usually hardware related but that doesn't make sense
as there's no change in any hardware... except the new hard disk.
Do one of you gurus have a clue for me?
Thanks in advance
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[newbie] install problems of either Rox filer 1.3.3 and 1.3.4 on MD 9.0
Hello list, I made the jump up to 9.0 hoping that I would be able to install rox with no problems...however that is not the case. I downloaded both rox-1.3.3-1mdk.src.rpm and rox-1.3.4-1mdk.src.rpm (1.3.4 being a cooker package). First I ran rpm --rebuild rox-1.3.3-1mdk.src.rpm (and also tried the same for 1.3.4) and then I ran rpm -ivh /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/rox-1.3.3-1mdk.i586.rpm (same for 1.3.4) and received this error message from both versions; error: failed dependencies: shared-mime-info = 0.8 is needed by rox-1.3.3-1mdk Sooo, off I went in search of shared-mime-info = 0.8 and found 0.9 and installed that and still am receiving that same error message. I thought I had seen this solution in an earlier thread having to deal with Nautilus, but cannot find it. Was it an rpm -option that I could use? Or was it I had to download the rox package from the Mandrakeclub? I believe I found the rox packages at rpmfind.net. My goal is to use Fluxbox as a window manager with Rox as a file manager so I can create icons on the desktop. Anybody know of a work-around or something else I could use with Fluxbox so I can place icons on my desktop? TIA Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] install problems of either Rox filer 1.3.3 and 1.3.4 on MD 9.0
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:54:08 -0500 Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I made the jump up to 9.0 hoping that I would be able to install rox with no problems...however that is not the case. I downloaded both rox-1.3.3-1mdk.src.rpm and rox-1.3.4-1mdk.src.rpm (1.3.4 being a cooker package). First I ran rpm --rebuild rox-1.3.3-1mdk.src.rpm (and also tried the same for 1.3.4) and then I ran rpm -ivh /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/rox-1.3.3-1mdk.i586.rpm (same for 1.3.4) and received this error message from both versions; error: failed dependencies: shared-mime-info = 0.8 is needed by rox-1.3.3-1mdk Sooo, off I went in search of shared-mime-info = 0.8 and found 0.9 and installed that and still am receiving that same error message. I'm using 8.2 and tried to move up to the newest Rox and quit because I couldn't get gtk+2 installed, and I was in dependency hell for 2 days. snip My goal is to use Fluxbox as a window manager with Rox as a file manager so I can create icons on the desktop. I think Fluxbox and Rox don't play nicely together if you want to use the pinboard feature--you might try just using the panels. Anybody know of a work-around or something else I could use with Fluxbox so I can place icons on my desktop? Use keys instead of icons ;) I'm using Rox 1.2.1. You should still be able to find it on the rox homepage (you might have to dig). I never had any luck with the Mandrake rpm's, but was able to build from source--it's very easy. You could try that and see if you can use the panel with Fluxbox. BTW, which version of Flux are you running? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install Problems Compaq 700T
Recently, went out and brought 8.1. This is my first jump into linux, so I installed next to WinXP. Install goes fine, but after i tell linux to boot in LILO the computer just restarts. All options led to the same effect. WinXP was unbootable, so I wiped the drive clean, still the same problem. Any help? Stats. Compaq Laptop 700T 850 Duron Chip 386MB RAM 18GB HD Three linux partitions: /root, /usr, /home thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems Compaq 700T
to restore winxp for time being start the comp with windows startup disk and in command prompt type c:\fdisk /mbr after restarting it will boot windows ... then try installing linux with the installation guide Recently, went out and brought 8.1. This is my first jump into linux, so I installed next to WinXP. Install goes fine, but after i tell linux to boot in LILO the computer just restarts. All options led to the same effect. WinXP was unbootable, so I wiped the drive clean, still the same problem. Any help? Stats. Compaq Laptop 700T 850 Duron Chip 386MB RAM 18GB HD Three linux partitions: /root, /usr, /home thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems Compaq 700T
Yup, thats where I am now =D. Though Compaq never did send me just a windows cd, I got a 3 cd compaq install, so anything normal window fixes hadn't worked. Found and XP bootdisk image on the web, and went from there. Very strangely the first 2 times I had done fdisk /mbr, the computer restarted displaying only garbage symbols. *The trick was to fall asleep the third time, in which I woke up to the awful windows tune, strange but true* I am not concerned with running windows at the moment. I just want to get Mandrake up and running. Also just a note, I tried grub that had no luck. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install Problems Compaq 700T
booting linux in windows style http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Loadlin+Win95-98-ME-4.html 4.1 Step One: Edit (or create) config.sys on the root of Drive C. The contents should be similar to the following: --- [menu] menuitem=Linux, Mandrake Linux 7.2 menuitem=Win98, Windows 98 menucolor=15,1 menudefault=Win98, 10 [linux] [win98] If your system already has a config.sys file, put those contents under the [win98] section. The [linux] section is left blank intentionally. 4.2 Step Two: Edit (or create) autoexec.bat on the root of Drive C. The contents should be similar to the following: goto %config% :linux call c:\linux.bat :win98 As above, if you aready have an autoexec.bat file, put those contents under the :win98 section. 4.3 Step Three: Create a file called: linux.bat. Putting it in the root of Drive C is as good as place as any (but it can go anywhere so long as you reference the path or location). The contents should be similar to the following: @echo off c:\loadlin c:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro The above example assumes that loadlin.exe and vmlinuz are located in the root of Drive C (or C:\) and that linux is installed on the /dev/hda3 partition. Your configuration may be different. The important thing here is to make sure that loadlin and your linux kernel file are properly referenced. Finished! That should work for you, as that is how I have things set up on my system, which dual boots with Win98. Yup, thats where I am now =D. Though Compaq never did send me just a windows cd, I got a 3 cd compaq install, so anything normal window fixes hadn't worked. Found and XP bootdisk image on the web, and went from there. Very strangely the first 2 times I had done fdisk /mbr, the computer restarted displaying only garbage symbols. *The trick was to fall asleep the third time, in which I woke up to the awful windows tune, strange but true* I am not concerned with running windows at the moment. I just want to get Mandrake up and running. Also just a note, I tried grub that had no luck. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NEWBIE: Install problems with LM8.1
New to this list again.. I am not sure if this has been covered yet, I scanned thru the archives, but didn't find anything for my searches. I have a (well one of 4 systems) Cyrix 233, 5GB, 128 DIMM, 8MB SIS video, supported sound/NIC. I have tried to run setup of L.M. 8.1, and keep getting the SAME error when looking for install packages.MISSING BASESYSTEM PACKAGE, this has occured with 3 different ISO burns, in both INSTALL, and UPGRADE modes, also on a freshly formated HD. I know the hardware works, since L.M. 7.01 is running on it now. Please point me to the existing email's or give me suggestions that will put LM 8.1 on my machine. TIA Jaguar __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEWBIE: Install problems with LM8.1
In reply to Jaguar's words, written Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:10:03 -0500 New to this list again.. I am not sure if this has been covered yet, I scanned thru the archives, but didn't find anything for my searches. I have a (well one of 4 systems) Cyrix 233, 5GB, 128 DIMM, 8MB SIS video, supported sound/NIC. I have tried to run setup of L.M. 8.1, and keep getting the SAME error when looking for install packages.MISSING BASESYSTEM PACKAGE, this has occured with 3 different ISO burns, in both INSTALL, and UPGRADE modes, also on a freshly formated HD. I know the hardware works, since L.M. 7.01 is running on it now. Please point me to the existing email's or give me suggestions that will put LM 8.1 on my machine. Have you checked the md5sum on the downloaded packages? If there is a problem in there, you have to download new ones. Paul -- It is better to have loved and lost, then never to have loved at all -Lord Alfred Tennyson http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install problems
Hi My previous letter was not so clear, sorry about that. Anyway I have an old pentium 200, and i have a 10 gig hard drive but the bios can only see 8 gig. I have windows 95c on it. I then installed LM 8, suprisingly it could see the other 2 gig so i installed it to there. Unfortunately I couldnt boot because when it was just about to load the OS or lilo or something it just printed a couple of asc ii chars and then hangs. Then I tried an expert install. during it I said that it must change the boot sector or something, it gave me some warnings but I couldnt start my pc anyway, into win 95 or linux, so I said ok. That did not help. I then partitioned the disk 6,2,2. I installed LM8 again but to the second 2 gig partition. This worked and I can run LM8 with no problem unfortunatly I can no longer boot to a floppy which is a 98 boot disk. It seems to just read the disk for a few seconds and then hang. I disabled my hd in the bios and the disk worked fine but when i enabled it again the booting was messed again. So I had to reinstall LM8. Is there any way to install windows onto that first 6 gig I have without formatting everything because I still have quite a bit of info on it which I would like to keep. This is a bit lengthy but I hope that it explaines my situation? Thanks for any help. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Install problems - update
Hi all Just to let you know that I solved the problem (sticking at filesystem setup - the defrag problem..). It appears that Norton Speed disk was to 'blame'. I had forgotten that the default is to put rarely used files at the end of the disk. This of course does not show in Windows defrag. Thanks for all the helpful replies I did get for this problem. I am now enjoying the Linux experience. Now if I could only get my HP 420 deskjet to work, i'll be laughing... :-)) Gary Now Tux powered
[newbie] Install problems with 7.2
I've been trying to do a fresh install on 7.2 and been running into a problem with DiskDrake, but I'm not sure exactly. I have a disk with no partitions on it, so I tell diskdrake to do AutoAllocate. it seems happy with that. Says it's writes it to the disk. Select format all partitions. it comes back with an error "Swap area must be" must be what is my question Some times it gets to a point where is formats the first two partitions then dies on the swap partition. I've played with sizing it differently and that doesn't seem to make any different. Strangely enough, if I just keep trying (about 10 time or more usually) it works and the rest of the install go off with out a hitch. If you go and look at some of the log screens it tells me "bad magic number" in some perl script somewhere. also no partition table on the drive. What gives? What bugs me is that the 7.1 install works no problem. Help! Gene Moreau IT Specialist Arrista Technologies - http://www.arrista.com v: 204.489.3200 f: 204.489.8300 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP pub key: http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~moreaug/pgp.txt
RE: [newbie] Install problems with 7.2
What kind of IDE chipset is the mb using? Is DMA enabled? Does the kernel correctly identify the drive controllers? This sounds like a hardware related problem. Has this hard drive been installed successfully with another OS? As a last resort, boot up with some Slackware bootdisks, cfdisk, format the drives, then install Mandrake using the pre-setup partitions. Also, using a low-level format utility has corrected disk errors for me in the past. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gene Moreau Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:45 PM To: Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] Install problems with 7.2 I've been trying to do a fresh install on 7.2 and been running into a problem with DiskDrake, but I'm not sure exactly. I have a disk with no partitions on it, so I tell diskdrake to do AutoAllocate. it seems happy with that. Says it's writes it to the disk. Select format all partitions. it comes back with an error "Swap area must be" must be what is my question Some times it gets to a point where is formats the first two partitions then dies on the swap partition. I've played with sizing it differently and that doesn't seem to make any different. Strangely enough, if I just keep trying (about 10 time or more usually) it works and the rest of the install go off with out a hitch. If you go and look at some of the log screens it tells me "bad magic number" in some perl script somewhere. also no partition table on the drive. What gives? What bugs me is that the 7.1 install works no problem. Help! Gene Moreau IT Specialist Arrista Technologies - http://www.arrista.com v: 204.489.3200 f: 204.489.8300 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP pub key: http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~moreaug/pgp.txt
RE: [newbie] Install problems with 7.2
Not sure of the IDE chip set off the top of my headhave to go look, but have had no problems with this drive in the same machine with NT, Mandrake 7.1. Like I said before if I just keep trying and it eventually works and lets me finish the install with 7.2. It then has no problems after that. just seems like it doesn't actually write the partion table to the drive when it says it is. -Original Message- From: Bryant Morrison F47743C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 6, 2001 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems with 7.2 What kind of IDE chipset is the mb using? Is DMA enabled? Does the kernel correctly identify the drive controllers? This sounds like a hardware related problem. Has this hard drive been installed successfully with another OS? As a last resort, boot up with some Slackware bootdisks, cfdisk, format the drives, then install Mandrake using the pre-setup partitions. Also, using a low-level format utility has corrected disk errors for me in the past. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gene Moreau Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:45 PM To: Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] Install problems with 7.2 I've been trying to do a fresh install on 7.2 and been running into a problem with DiskDrake, but I'm not sure exactly. I have a disk with no partitions on it, so I tell diskdrake to do AutoAllocate. it seems happy with that. Says it's writes it to the disk. Select format all partitions. it comes back with an error "Swap area must be" must be what is my question Some times it gets to a point where is formats the first two partitions then dies on the swap partition. I've played with sizing it differently and that doesn't seem to make any different. Strangely enough, if I just keep trying (about 10 time or more usually) it works and the rest of the install go off with out a hitch. If you go and look at some of the log screens it tells me "bad magic number" in some perl script somewhere. also no partition table on the drive. What gives? What bugs me is that the 7.1 install works no problem. Help! Gene Moreau IT Specialist Arrista Technologies - http://www.arrista.com v: 204.489.3200 f: 204.489.8300 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP pub key: http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~moreaug/pgp.txt
[newbie] Install Problems with V7.2 and SystemCommander 2000 V5.04
Hello, I am attempting to multi-boot Windows 98, Windows 2000, and Mandrake 7.2 on an intel platform with System Commander. I have the Windows 98 and Windows 2000 boots installed and functional on the first harddrive HDA. The Windows 98 is there to house System Commander. Everything on that first drive works. I run the custom Mandrake install, not the "full expert" but the middle choice. I choose to install Mandrake directly, so I do not use the System Commander O/S create utility. I just let System Commander find it upon the reboot. BTW, this method works for custom installs of Red Hat or SUSE which I have done several times in the past. The Mandrake install is onto the 2nd drive fully, HDB, and I get all the way thru the install. System Commander finds the new Linux, but when I try to boot Mandrake I get the following: "panic unable to mount root filesystem" or something of that matter. I took a look at the Linux partitions from the System Commander 2000 disk partioning tool and see that the /boot partition is there and identified as a Linux EXT2 file system, which is good. However the rest of the Mandrake install space is not sliced into partitions, it is a single big partition that System Commander see as a generic Unix single partition. That would seem to be the problem, is there something special I need to know about Mandrake??? Can someone advise me? As said earlier I have been able to do the same setup methodology with Red Hat and SUSE and it worked. Thanks for anyones help Steve # Stephen LaBelle # # Senior Unix Systems Administrator# # Metropolitan State College of Denver # # Denver, Colorado USA# # [EMAIL PROTECTED]#
Re: [newbie] Install Problems with V7.2 and SystemCommander 2000 V5.04
did you partition the rest into more than one partition i.e. /usr /home etc.? did you use reiserfs? i installed lm7.2 onto a machine and thoughtlessly forgot to deselect the reiserfs package on installation and only realised i had done this when using partition magic i noticed that i couldn't resise my linux partitions bascule "panic unable to mount root filesystem" or something of that matter. I took a look at the Linux partitions from the System Commander 2000 disk partioning tool and see that the /boot partition is there and identified as a Linux EXT2 file system, which is good. However the rest of the Mandrake install space is not sliced into partitions, it is a single big partition that System Commander see as a generic Unix single
RE: [newbie] Install Problems with V7.2 and SystemCommander 2000 V5.04
The problem most likely stems from the way the partitions were made. Use the SysCom partitioning tool to delete the extended partition and then to create it again with however many logical linux partitions you choose then during the Mandrake installation use DiskDrake only for mounting and formatting the partitions. The only time I have used the SysCom OS Wizard was to install BeOS and that is because the Be bootloader is not installed unless written to the MBR and the OS Wizards allows SysCom to pick-up the boot record. All the other installations on that system were done by setting the BIOS to boot from CD-ROM and inserting the installation CD. When the install completes all that is necessary is to toggle the needed partition as bootable and it is added to SysCom as a boot option. I have done it a few times. I have a 45GB and a 15GB hd on that system with all OSes being booted by SysCom2000. Those include Win98, BeOS, Storm, Caldera, Suse, VA Red Hat, and Mandrake and I have tried others. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen L LaBelle Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Install Problems with V7.2 and SystemCommander 2000 V5.04 Hello, I am attempting to multi-boot Windows 98, Windows 2000, and Mandrake 7.2 on an intel platform with System Commander. I have the Windows 98 and Windows 2000 boots installed and functional on the first harddrive HDA. The Windows 98 is there to house System Commander. Everything on that first drive works. I run the custom Mandrake install, not the "full expert" but the middle choice. I choose to install Mandrake directly, so I do not use the System Commander O/S create utility. I just let System Commander find it upon the reboot. BTW, this method works for custom installs of Red Hat or SUSE which I have done several times in the past. The Mandrake install is onto the 2nd drive fully, HDB, and I get all the way thru the install. System Commander finds the new Linux, but when I try to boot Mandrake I get the following: "panic unable to mount root filesystem" or something of that matter. I took a look at the Linux partitions from the System Commander 2000 disk partioning tool and see that the /boot partition is there and identified as a Linux EXT2 file system, which is good. However the rest of the Mandrake install space is not sliced into partitions, it is a single big partition that System Commander see as a generic Unix single partition. That would seem to be the problem, is there something special I need to know about Mandrake??? Can someone advise me? As said earlier I have been able to do the same setup methodology with Red Hat and SUSE and it worked. Thanks for anyones help Steve # Stephen LaBelle # # Senior Unix Systems Administrator# # Metropolitan State College of Denver # # Denver, Colorado USA# # [EMAIL PROTECTED]#
RE: [newbie] Install problems
I took the hard drive off of the ATA/66 channel and performed a reinstall. All is well. I guess it just didn't like the ATA??? -Original Message- From: Rod Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems I dont believe the ATA66 is your problem. Sounds like something to do with the way your partitions are set up. Is the 2gigs free space or part of a extended partition. Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:40 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems The ATA/66 is on the board, no card. I have an ABIT BX6 II for my MoBo. Last night I got past the SCSI error and found this error at the HD detection phase of the install: "An error has occured- No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem." But here's the deal. I have already installed Win98se on this HD and have over 2gigs left for Linux. What is this all about? -Original Message- From: Rod Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems If your ultra interface is a plug in card some of these look like SCSI cards to the software. I have a promise card which always detects as a SCSI controller. What is your motherboard and IDE interface etc?? Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:38 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) -Original Message- From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems]
Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. Somebody know about ATA66? -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 = Yes it does suport ATA66. I running it right now. In fact I was originally running this box fro ASL at ATA100, but it became a bit unstable and began giving me boot fits. So I switched sockets, backing it down to 66 and haven't had a problem since. Runs great and very stable. Mike "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Frankilin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] Install problems
I've got two ATA/66 HDD's hooked to system. Primary master and slave and they're working fine with Mandrake 7.1. That's all I run as a matter of fact. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 3:06am ,Dennis Myers spake passionately in a message: "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. Somebody know about ATA66?
Re: [newbie] Install problems
please disregard my previous post on this thread...I'm not totally with it this morning and while I thought I was responding to one thing I was thinking of something else. Not enough caffine in the blood-stream yet! -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 7:34am ,Mark Weaver spake passionately in a message: I've got two ATA/66 HDD's hooked to system. Primary master and slave and they're working fine with Mandrake 7.1. That's all I run as a matter of fact.
RE: [newbie] Install problems
The ATA/66 is on the board, no card. I have an ABIT BX6 II for my MoBo. Last night I got past the SCSI error and found this error at the HD detection phase of the install: "An error has occured- No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of thisproblem." But here's the deal. I have already installed Win98se on this HD and have over 2gigs left for Linux. What is this all about? -Original Message- From: Rod Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems If your ultra interface is a plug in card some of these look like SCSI cards to the software. I have a promise card which always detects as a SCSI controller. What is your motherboard and IDE interface etc?? Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:38 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) -Original Message- From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
[newbie] Install Problems - MISSING HEADER
Hey Everyone... I purchased Mandrake Linux 7.1 Deluxe which comes with the following CD's: Installation CD (x86) Applications CD (x86) 2nd Applications CD (x86) Extension CD (x86) etc... After telling Mandrake I have all of the above Cd's it starts installing fine until it gets to the 2nd Application CD half way through when I encounter the error: An Error Occured Package file: missing header +-+ | OK | +-+ Why am I getting this error? I have sucessfully used these cd's on the same computer before a hard drive crash (hard drive was replaced) and checked the cd for scratches etc. Any ideas? -Joel B __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, you wrote: The ATA/66 is on the board, no card. I have an ABIT BX6 II for my MoBo. Last night I got past the SCSI error and found this error at the HD detection phase of the install: "An error has occured- No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem." But here's the deal. I have already installed Win98se on this HD and have over 2gigs left for Linux. What is this all about? It's almost assuredly a hardware/config defienciency. Try a bios setting to change to ata/33, or simply replace the ata/66 IDE cable with an ata/33 cable and see if that doesn't solve the problem. I suspect Windoze works with it because it's more tolerant of marginal hardware than Linux is. After/if that change to ata/33 works, then try going back to ata/66 (tho it's hardly worth it IMNSHO). IIRC, there's some problems with Abit and ata/66. To the point that Abit even released their own Linux distro (Gentus?) to overcome it. -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] Install problems
I haven't even got my install going properly yet, so this may be WAY off base but: Is that 2GB you have left set as a partition (eg: using Fdisk), or just left as unallocated area? Wouldn't the system miss unallocated space (therefore the "No valid devices..." error)? As I said, probably NOT the solution, but the reply might help me learn. -Carlton -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, you wrote: The ATA/66 is on the board, no card. I have an ABIT BX6 II for my MoBo. Last night I got past the SCSI error and found this error at the HD detection phase of the install: "An error has occured- No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem." But here's the deal. I have already installed Win98se on this HD and have over 2gigs left for Linux. What is this all about? It's almost assuredly a hardware/config defienciency. Try a bios setting to change to ata/33, or simply replace the ata/66 IDE cable with an ata/33 cable and see if that doesn't solve the problem. I suspect Windoze works with it because it's more tolerant of marginal hardware than Linux is. After/if that change to ata/33 works, then try going back to ata/66 (tho it's hardly worth it IMNSHO). IIRC, there's some problems with Abit and ata/66. To the point that Abit even released their own Linux distro (Gentus?) to overcome it. -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] Install problems
I have actually tried it as both. That is, with and with out a extfs2 partition. I think that I am going to try Tom's suggestion. -Original Message- From: Dodd Carlton J MSgt 726 ACS/CSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems I haven't even got my install going properly yet, so this may be WAY off base but: Is that 2GB you have left set as a partition (eg: using Fdisk), or just left as unallocated area? Wouldn't the system miss unallocated space (therefore the "No valid devices..." error)? As I said, probably NOT the solution, but the reply might help me learn. -Carlton -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, you wrote: The ATA/66 is on the board, no card. I have an ABIT BX6 II for my MoBo. Last night I got past the SCSI error and found this error at the HD detection phase of the install: "An error has occured- No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem." But here's the deal. I have already installed Win98se on this HD and have over 2gigs left for Linux. What is this all about? It's almost assuredly a hardware/config defienciency. Try a bios setting to change to ata/33, or simply replace the ata/66 IDE cable with an ata/33 cable and see if that doesn't solve the problem. I suspect Windoze works with it because it's more tolerant of marginal hardware than Linux is. After/if that change to ata/33 works, then try going back to ata/66 (tho it's hardly worth it IMNSHO). IIRC, there's some problems with Abit and ata/66. To the point that Abit even released their own Linux distro (Gentus?) to overcome it. -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Install Problems - MISSING HEADER
Joel B wrote: Hey Everyone... I purchased Mandrake Linux 7.1 Deluxe which comes with the following CD's: Installation CD (x86) Applications CD (x86) 2nd Applications CD (x86) Extension CD (x86) etc... After telling Mandrake I have all of the above Cd's it starts installing fine until it gets to the 2nd Application CD half way through when I encounter the error: An Error Occured Package file: missing header +-+ | OK | +-+ Why am I getting this error? I have sucessfully used these cd's on the same computer before a hard drive crash (hard drive was replaced) and checked the cd for scratches etc. Any ideas? -Joel B Hi Joel. This is gonna sound really strange, but when I used 7.1, I had the same problem when I picked (and for the life of me I can't remember which!) one of the settings: auto custom developer expert etc, etc,... Anyways, I finally used developer and expert. This worked fine, and I didn't get the errors I did before... Hope this helps! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Install problems
Dennise, After LM7.0 was installed I switched my drive up to ATA/66 mode and it worked just fine with Mandrake. I understand that there may be problems when installing and using /66 mode, and with Promise controller cards (which require a patch if I recall what I read in newbie correctly). -Gary- In a message dated 10/19/2000 11:06:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. Somebody know about ATA66? -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Install problems
Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
RE: [newbie] Install problems
But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [newbie] Install problems
"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
RE: [newbie] Install problems
I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) -Original Message- From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [newbie] Install problems
If your ultra interface is a plug in card some of these look like SCSI cards to the software. I have a promise card which always detects as a SCSI controller. What is your motherboard and IDE interface etc?? Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:38 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) -Original Message- From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [RE: [newbie] Install problems]
Do you have a CD burner on your computer? If you do then it is perfectly normal for Linux to install the SCSI support as it recognizes a CD burner as a SCSI whether it is one or not. If the answer is yes to my question then just let it be because without it you don't have a CD burner. Cheers --Al "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) -Original Message- From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press yes or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question about SCSI drives Why?? What type(s) of drive do you have? Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM To: 'Newbie' Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Chris, It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] Install problems
"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. Somebody know about ATA66? -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Install problems
7.1 is supposed to support ultra66. But it depends on the chipset I think, and if its a plug in card or not. Rod - Original Message - From: "Dennis Myers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. Somebody know about ATA66? -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
[newbie] Install problems
I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
[newbie] Install problems
I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
[newbie] Install problems
I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to my computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. The second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD and start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It gets to a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell it yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet again, "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me again, and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I tried running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have done an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD has Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
[newbie] Install Problems!
Hi all, newbie here :) I recently got Mandrake 7.1 free with a magazine on a bootable CD. However, at some point during installation (it varies when) I get the error "Segmentation Fault: It appears that memory is missing as installation crashes", I then have to reboot. Any ideas as to what this is? Best Regards, -Jerome Everall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Install Problems!
It was Oct 9, 2000, 10:27, when Jerome Everall keyboarded: Perhaps a long-shot, but check your BIOS and see if there is something like a setting switched on called MEMORY GAP. This often kicks a 1meg hole in memory. Paul I recently got Mandrake 7.1 free with a magazine on a bootable CD. However, at some point during installation (it varies when) I get the error "Segmentation Fault: It appears that memory is missing as installation crashes", I then have to reboot. -- The dance becomes a trance When the dancer becomes the dance. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [RE: [newbie] Install problems]
If I remember correctly...someone on this list said it took 20 mins or more for the CD-Rom to open for the next CD. HTH Jaguar "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, is there a way to add the Extension CD after the fact? My PC isn't that old. It is a P2-MMX 233mhz that I built myself a little while ago. I am running a 30X Mitsumi CD-ROM drive. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robin Regennitter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems Well, I purchased MDKLinux 7.1 Complete which only include the installation disk and application. I had tried installing it on my Old 166 mhz IBM Aptiva. When I got to the end and it ask for the application CD. My CD-Rom wouldnt open. and along side with that. My X-windows would not get installed. At first I thought maybe the disk were damaged because I had installed 6.1 on it with no problem. So I thought well I'll try it on my newer computer which is 533 Intel Celeron and surprisingly It installed everything including the application CD. and Everything is working beautifully. So my guess is that my old computer is too outdated for the MDKLinux 7.1. - Original Message - From: Kelly, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Newbie' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: [newbie] Install problems Hi all, I recently installed MDKLinux 7.1 and when the install got to where it asks for the "Extensions CD", my cd-rom wouldn't open. So, I skipped it. Is there a way to install it after the fact? And, has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Install problems
Hi all, I recently installed MDKLinux 7.1 and when the install got to where it asks for the "Extensions CD", my cd-rom wouldn't open. So, I skipped it. Is there a way to install it after the fact? And, has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [newbie] Install problems
Well, I purchased MDKLinux 7.1 Complete which only include the installation disk and application. I had tried installing it on my Old 166 mhz IBM Aptiva. When I got to the end and it ask for the application CD. My CD-Rom wouldnt open. and along side with that. My X-windows would not get installed. At first I thought maybe the disk were damaged because I had installed 6.1 on it with no problem. So I thought well I'll try it on my newer computer which is 533 Intel Celeron and surprisingly It installed everything including the application CD. and Everything is working beautifully. So my guess is that my old computer is too outdated for the MDKLinux 7.1. - Original Message - From: Kelly, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Newbie' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: [newbie] Install problems Hi all, I recently installed MDKLinux 7.1 and when the install got to where it asks for the "Extensions CD", my cd-rom wouldn't open. So, I skipped it. Is there a way to install it after the fact? And, has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
[newbie] Install problems
I sent this once already but, I never saw it come up on the list...what's up with that? I just recently installed LM 7.1 and when it got to the part where it tells you to put the "Extensions" CD-ROM in the drive and hit ok, I can't open my drive. It won't open. Has this happened to anyone else? If so, how can I load that after installation? Help!!! ... Chris
[newbie] Install problems with both 7.0 and 7.1
While trying to install 7.0, it jams on the second stage install ( when the message is written on the screen). Complete lockout, even the off switch doesnt function which means the bios is jamed as well. With 7.1, this isnt an issue, but when it reaches the new "find PCMCIA devices" screen, it jams wen a I say yes and it jams when I say no. On 7.0, using the pcmcia image during the beggining of the installtion worked fine. I got a beep and everything ( which I assumed meant it detected the PCMCIA card and adapter). I have a PCMCIA ethernet card which I would like installed in the install. But am willing to leave it out and do it later if needed, but as mentioned even if I say no to the PCMCIA detection it jams. So basically I cant install 7.0 or 7.1 on that box. Any ideas ? Details of box: MB: HOT565 CPU: AMD-K6-2 233 Memory: 168MB HD: 6 GB IBM CD: unknown Grpahics card: S3 The Only other card is the Lucent PCI - PCMCIA Adapter.
Re: [[newbie] Install problems with both 7.0 and 7.1]
"aifusionextreme" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - While trying to install 7.0, it jams on the second stage install ( when the message is written on the screen). Complete lockout, even the off switch doesnt function which means the bios is jamed as well. With 7.1, this isnt an issue, but when it reaches the new "find PCMCIA devices" screen, it jams wen a I say yes and it jams when I say no. On 7.0, using the pcmcia image during the beggining of the installtion worked fine. I got a beep and everything ( which I assumed meant it detected the PCMCIA card and adapter). That BEEP is the hardware _ONLY_ telling you is has found a PC-Card device...nothing to do with the OS. I have a PCMCIA ethernet card which I would like installed in the install. But am willing to leave it out and do it later if needed, but as mentioned even if I say no to the PCMCIA detection it jams. So basically I cant install 7.0 or 7.1 on that box. Any ideas ? Details of box: MB: HOT565 CPU: AMD-K6-2 233 Memory: 168MB HD: 6 GB IBM CD: unknown Grpahics card: S3 The Only other card is the Lucent PCI - PCMCIA Adapter. The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
hmm..did u set the right monitor type ?...horizontal and vertical frequencies ?...i had to do it manually on mandrake 6.1..dont know whether 7.0 has already a utility to autoprobe it a good site for help on mandrake is www.mandrakeuser.org and (of course) www.linux-mandrake.com/en Am Sam, 22 Apr 2000 schrieben Sie: I'm completely new to Linux and am having difficulties with the Mandrake install program. When it gets to the point where it is supposed to test X no window appears and the install program does not go back to the previous step after a period of time as the manual says it will. I have tried several different resolutions all with the same result so I don't think that is the problem. I am running a Mitsubishi 15fs monitor and a S3 Trio32/64 PCI, and would appreciate any help or links to sites that may help.
Re: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
After a week and a half i have found out why my computer stalled during install: i loose the IRQ to my GOLDSTAR 8X atapi cdrom. why is it lost i dont know. When the packages start installing my cd just dies. I can eventually get it to work again by manually switching the power off and back on on the cd only, but i loose irq again after a few seconds. So to all of you that has mandrake installed AND has done it on a GOLDSTAR 8X cdrom i wonder: How did you do it??? Thanx to all that tried to solve my problem :) /Jimmi Wimmersjö Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: SV: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
Great. But it certainly doesn't answer your problem. :) Bambi Jimmi wrote: Do you have the 32 megs of RAM needed for Mandrake Linux? Bambi Yeah. I used to have 4*16 Mb but since i had two different types of ram the ramdrive crashed. i pulled two, and have two left = 32 Mb. Jimmi Wimmersjö wrote: I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!"
SV: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
Do you have the 32 megs of RAM needed for Mandrake Linux? Bambi Yeah. I used to have 4*16 Mb but since i had two different types of ram the ramdrive crashed. i pulled two, and have two left = 32 Mb. Jimmi Wimmersjö wrote: I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!"
[newbie] Install problems
I have been trying (unsucessfully) to install Mandrake 6.5 for about a week now and still cannot get my display to work properly. At the end of the install process my card is correctly identified as an S3 Trio 32/64 PCI and my monitor type Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 15FS is on the list. When it attempts to test the system in the final stages of the install program it 'locks up' and does not go back as the install guide says it will. I have tried manually entering the data from my monitors manual but this makes no difference. I have also tried setting different resolutions (the suggested one is 1024*760 16 bit) but this makes no difference. If I select skip to skip the monitor test the install program finishes sucessfully and when I type startx at the command prompt the screen goes blank and the PC locks up again. Does anybody have any suggestions or know whats wrong? Matthew Wollongong, Australia
[newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!"
Re: [newbie] Install problems
I don't know 6.5, I've only installed 7.0, are you allowing software probing during the install, is so - don't. Have you tried configuring X using XF86Setup (case sensitive) after the install, might work if you select a standard svga install and then tweak it using XF86Setup afterwards On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, you wrote: I have been trying (unsucessfully) to install Mandrake 6.5 for about a week now and still cannot get my display to work properly. At the end of the install process my card is correctly identified as an S3 Trio 32/64 PCI and my monitor type Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 15FS is on the list. When it attempts to test the system in the final stages of the install program it 'locks up' and does not go back as the install guide says it will. I have tried manually entering the data from my monitors manual but this makes no difference. I have also tried setting different resolutions (the suggested one is 1024*760 16 bit) but this makes no difference. If I select skip to skip the monitor test the install program finishes sucessfully and when I type startx at the command prompt the screen goes blank and the PC locks up again. Does anybody have any suggestions or know whats wrong? Matthew Wollongong, Australia
Re: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
Have you set your PnP to DISABLE in the BIOS? That is what I had to do to have my install run AOK! don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:42:47 +0200 (MET DST) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jimmi_Wimmersj=F6?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!" YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
SV: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
Have you set your PnP to DISABLE in the BIOS? That is what I had to do to have my install run AOK! Yeah i have.. still freezes /Jimmi On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:42:47 +0200 (MET DST) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jimmi_Wimmersj=F6?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!" YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Install problems on older machines?!?!
Do you have the 32 megs of RAM needed for Mandrake Linux? Bambi Jimmi Wimmersjö wrote: I've been trying to install mandrake linux for over a week now. After removing half of my RAM (Different timing caused ramdrive crash) Changing my processor from CYRIX to AMD i still cant install it. When i boot from cd (GOLDSTAR 8X ATAPI cdrom) i get halfway through the install then DrakX freezes on me. If i try the autoboot it wont detect my cd (allthough i started it from the cd), I have also tried the hd boot floppy but then in second stage install it gives me "installation exited abnormaly code 9" or something. I think i've seen an error message on one of the screens "No space left on device" which is very odd, since i have approx 15GB free discspace on the HD i wish to install to. I know my machine is old, but do i really have to buy a new one to install linux?!? Mandrake claims to support all of my hardware: AMD-k6 200MHZ ATAPI Cdrom IDE Harddrive IBM 20 GB IDE Harddrive Seagate 2 GB I have downloaded a new hd bootdisc image and will try again tonight, but if anyone can help me please let me hear from you. Jimmi J. Wimmersjö. "Ni vet, Hjärnan , den slutar aldrig att fungera!"
[newbie] Install problems with cdrom
Hi. I Having problems installing Mandrake from my cdrom. The installation runs fine until i get to library gclib (GNU clib) then my cdrom shutsdown(!) and the installation freezes. I have a goldstar 8X cdrom on a amd k6-2 200 mhz system. I hace tried the different install methods described on the cd (a free edition from the swedish computermagazine pc-extra) with no luck. plz help! /Jimmi _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Jimmi WimmersjöE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ Granängsringen 57Tel hem: 08-7984842 _/ _/ 135 44 Tyresö Tel mob: 070-7328947 _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew Clegg wrote: I'm completely new to Linux and am having difficulties with the Mandrake install program. When it gets to the point where it is supposed to test X no window appears and the install program does not go back to the previous step after a period of time as the manual says it will. I have tried several different resolutions all with the same result so I don't think that is the problem. I am running a Mitsubishi 15fs monitor and a S3 Trio32/64 PCI, and would appreciate any help or links to sites that may help. Sometimes it is better NOT to let the system probe the graphics card. I know that the S3 trio is supported. Try it again, don't let the probing happen. That should work (no warranty though, other things can be messing things up) Paul )0(---)0( Why do you need BELIEF when you KNOW? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
Paul wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew Clegg wrote: I'm completely new to Linux and am having difficulties with the Mandrake install program. When it gets to the point where it is supposed to test X no window appears and the install program does not go back to the previous step after a period of time as the manual says it will. I have tried several different resolutions all with the same result so I don't think that is the problem. I am running a Mitsubishi 15fs monitor and a S3 Trio32/64 PCI, and would appreciate any help or links to sites that may help. Sometimes it is better NOT to let the system probe the graphics card. I know that the S3 trio is supported. Try it again, don't let the probing happen. That should work (no warranty though, other things can be messing things up) Paul Right, skip the probe !! I had the same problem with my S3 Trio. Because I installed in TEXT mode, there you can skip it. Eric
Re: [newbie] Install Problems
If you are in Mandrake 7, you can get out of this by ctr-alt-backspace. I have similar problem using Mandrake 6.5 and RedHat 6.0. It was also with a Mitsubushi Monitor. You really have to known the full specification of your monitor really well. Refer to the documentation that came with your monitor. Po Sydney, Australia -- From: Matthew Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Install Problems Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:25:47 +1000 I'm completely new to Linux and am having difficulties with the Mandrake install program. When it gets to the point where it is supposed to test X no window appears and the install program does not go back to the previous step after a period of time as the manual says it will. I have tried several different resolutions all with the same result so I don't think that is the problem. I am running a Mitsubishi 15fs monitor and a S3 Trio32/64 PCI, and would appreciate any help or links to sites that may help.
Re: [newbie] install problems
Re: your concerns about needing to fumble with a floppy if you install Linux on a separate partition, don't worry. Mandrake installs a boot menu called "lilo" into the boot sector of your boot disk. Instead of the Windoze banner at startup,you'll see a boot prompt "lilo boot:" and can enter "linux" or "dos" at it -- the latter will give you the familiar banner, the former will give you lots of colorful text messages scrolling up the screen, and not much later, the KDE desktop. :-) Re: Lnx4Win -- forget it. In the long term it's better to get a new partition and format it with the ext2 filesystem. Linux will be very much faster and more efficient that way. Make a swap partition too. Make it 4x the size of your memory -- my machine has 64 megs of RAM, so I made a 256 meg swap partition. Re: installing -- try putting the CD-ROM in your drive and rebooting the machine. Some modern computer BIOSes allow booting from the CD-ROM, and the Mandrake CD has a boot sector on it, so if you have a recent BIOS, you'll boot right into a Mandrake installer complete with partition editing tool. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] install problems
I recommend following Paul's suggestions. If you would prefer a GUI boot manager instead of LILO, then read on: When installing Linux, be sure to install LILO to the first sector on the Linux partition (NOT the MBR). To multi-boot Windows and Linux: 1) Backup your MBR (personally, I backup my MBR using "Ranish Partion Manager 2.38") 2) Install and setup a boot manager (I recommend XOSL) Some possible options for boot managers are: A) XOSL (http://www.xosl.org)-The best GUI boot manager IMHO (freeware) B) BootMagic (http://www.powerquest.com) A commercial GUI boot manager C) LILO D) Ranish Partition Manager (http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/)-I use it to backup my MBR, but I don't use it as a boot manager. (freeware) HTH, Matt From: Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 03:11:29 -0500 Re: your concerns about needing to fumble with a floppy if you install Linux on a separate partition, don't worry. Mandrake installs a boot menu called "lilo" into the boot sector of your boot disk. Instead of the Windoze banner at startup,you'll see a boot prompt "lilo boot:" and can enter "linux" or "dos" at it -- the latter will give you the familiar banner, the former will give you lots of colorful text messages scrolling up the screen, and not much later, the KDE desktop. :-) Re: Lnx4Win -- forget it. In the long term it's better to get a new partition and format it with the ext2 filesystem. Linux will be very much faster and more efficient that way. Make a swap partition too. Make it 4x the size of your memory -- my machine has 64 megs of RAM, so I made a 256 meg swap partition. Re: installing -- try putting the CD-ROM in your drive and rebooting the machine. Some modern computer BIOSes allow booting from the CD-ROM, and the Mandrake CD has a boot sector on it, so if you have a recent BIOS, you'll boot right into a Mandrake installer complete with partition editing tool. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]
No, my Linux box is also a desktop, and it doesn't support ATAPI devices, which is why I do what I do! BTW, I have actually researched connectivity for my laptop IDE interface, apart from the size, my laptop IDE interface is the same as standard!! I'm tempted to wire up a conector and give it a go! - Original Message - From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...] WOW...your desktop ( tower ) PC supports a LAPTOP IDE interface I am impressed. Jaguar "Simon Norris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of suggestions; snip 2. This is the method I use on my machine, a variation may work on yours. As I haven't got access to a CD-ROM on my Linux box, I physically take the hard drive over to my main machine, and copy the files onto a FAT16 partition on the hard drive. I then take it back, and install from hard drive. I can then delete this install partition. What I'm basically suggesting is to use DOS/Windows or similar to load a partition from the Linux CD-ROM (If you're short on disk space, you only need the RPMS folder), then boot from floppy and install from hard drive. If DOS can see your backpack CD-ROM, boot from a DOS floppy with the CD-ROM plugged in the back. Or use a DOS floppy to get the hard drive partition bootable, boot with the CD-ROM in place, and copy the files from there. snip - Original Message - From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: [newbie] Install problems... I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to install Mandrake RH6.0. I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive. Here is what is going on... 1. I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk. 2. When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the CD #1 in it. 3. I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not find the cd-rom. 4. It is not SCSI. I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel port as well. I tried it and it can not be found. The CD-ROM is a "Backpack". I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the Floppy drive. I can not get it to boot from the hard drive. I fdisked the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it. I copied the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard drive. I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off a working copy of my web site when I am on the road. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]
Simon Norris wrote: No, my Linux box is also a desktop, and it doesn't support ATAPI devices, which is why I do what I do! BTW, I have actually researched connectivity for my laptop IDE interface, apart from the size, my laptop IDE interface is the same as standard!! I'm tempted to wire up a conector and give it a go! You'll also find that the 2.5" laptop IDE drives have 44 pin connectors that are spaced much more closely together than a typical 3.5" desktop IDE drive. There are adapters available, but for what you get, they're damned pricey. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Install problems...
go to http://www.linux.org and do a search for laptops. It will give you the Linux laptop page. There are some links there that go to pages that give info about installing linux on a winbook. - Original Message - From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: [newbie] Install problems... I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to install Mandrake RH6.0. I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive. Here is what is going on... 1. I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk. 2. When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the CD #1 in it. 3. I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not find the cd-rom. 4. It is not SCSI. I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel port as well. I tried it and it can not be found. The CD-ROM is a "Backpack". I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the Floppy drive. I can not get it to boot from the hard drive. I fdisked the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it. I copied the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard drive. I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off a working copy of my web site when I am on the road. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[newbie] Install problems
Hi, I had mandrake 6.0 running on my machine and I tried to install 6.1. I got a message with SIGSEGV(11) in it. The upgrade stopped and I couldn't boot my machine. Now when I tried to reinstall when I get to the part where the partitions are formatted the process stops and I get a message with this in it. Code 28 8b 43 18 a8 04 75 21 8b 43 18 a8 80 74 1a 8b 53 30 31 c0 kernel panic: attempted to kill the idle task in swapper task not syncing Does anyone know what this means Thanks
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
darkknight wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, jsm wrote: Well , I've been following this thread . I also have the same problem with a 4 gig HD . But I'm still confused . If I create a /boot partition , will the Mandrake install program install the kernel and LILO it it automatically ? And this partition should be at the beginning of the drive ? Any detailed instructions that anyone can provide will be GREATLY appreciated ! Thanks for the time ! jsm If the /boot partition is created in the install program, then install will put all the files necessary in that partition. It shows up as a directory off of the root directory (which it is) but is also a seperate partition. The best way to do it is when in install and asked to set up partitions, then set up the /boot partition first. I just used 20 mb it is adequate enough. then I set up the swap partition, I just went with 127 mb probably overkill since I have 128 mb memory but better safe than sorry :) Then I set up my remaining space as a / partition (root) , I did not create any other partitions though many do. I hope this is of some use to you, John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the help ! I did try that , but LILO still would not install . So as a last resort I went to my motherboard manufacture and found a flash for my bios ( what else could it be , right ? ) . After the upgrade I'm glad to report that everything works fine !!! I now can boot to Linux or Windows with LILO . I guess there was a defect in my BIOS program . Thanks !!! jsm
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
You don't need that driver for Linux. It *SHOULD* work just fine w/o worrying about it, especially if you make a partition for /boot, etc. John - Original Message - From: bfernand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig After reading the docs, I decided to not use either LILO or Boot Magic. The reason being that my recently installed 13GB Maxtor drive uses a little driver that lives in the Master Boor Record (where LILO or BM would reside). Instead, I'm using LOADLIN which came in the Linux CD. I copied the kernel to the C: drive (VMLINUZ) and use the following in a batch file to load Linux: c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=3 Happy Hunting! Ben
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, jsm wrote: Well , I've been following this thread . I also have the same problem with a 4 gig HD . But I'm still confused . If I create a /boot partition , will the Mandrake install program install the kernel and LILO it it automatically ? And this partition should be at the beginning of the drive ? Any detailed instructions that anyone can provide will be GREATLY appreciated ! Thanks for the time ! jsm If the /boot partition is created in the install program, then install will put all the files necessary in that partition. It shows up as a directory off of the root directory (which it is) but is also a seperate partition. The best way to do it is when in install and asked to set up partitions, then set up the /boot partition first. I just used 20 mb it is adequate enough. then I set up the swap partition, I just went with 127 mb probably overkill since I have 128 mb memory but better safe than sorry :) Then I set up my remaining space as a / partition (root) , I did not create any other partitions though many do. I hope this is of some use to you, John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Kernels have to be in the first 8.4 GB of a harddisk. (This is not a Linux bug, but a BIOS problem. Stuff like EZDrive won't help you either). [...] so why doesn't someone come up with a BIOS fix for this? (although you SHOULD be able to squeeze the kernel in the first 8.4G SOMEWHERE :-)) Or is there some technical reason for this limitation? It's not that easy to write a BIOS fix because there is some configuration issues with the controller electronics. It's somehow all tied up in backwards compatibility with old IBM PC's, but I can't remember the specifics. Other hardware architectures don't have the problem. MB -- Michael R. Batchelor Industrial Informatics Instrumentation, Inc.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164 Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Let me know if i missed any ?'s Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164 Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: > Hey Axalon ! > Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) > So your saying: > / boot = 20 meg > / = a lot of harddrive then swap? > swap > Does LM know what to put in /boot > if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? > is this my mount point? > does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). > if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? > Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM > We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? > I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now > once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally > up and running I have to keep > my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") > > Your friend > Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, OK so hdc would be: /boot (20-50mg) / (being root or main partition)= bigmg then a swap partition (I'm figuring about 100mg) do I need to tell the install what to put into /boot? blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Is this what I would type in diskdruid? or would this be in fstab? I want to be able to have both Win LM be able to swap files e.g., downloads and such... Also while I have your attention is Samba the way to go with a Windows server/network? What is Wine all about? Let me know if i missed any ?'s > Axalon wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again "newbie Group" > > > Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use > > > it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, > > > better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) > > > The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the > > > Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. > > > When fdisk starts I get the following message: > > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 > > > there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, > > > and could in certain setups cause problems with: > > > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) > > > 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's > > > (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) > > > I was thinking of doing two partitions, > > > Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) > > > hdc2= swap at around 60 > > > then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using > > > VMware. > > > well what do you think? > > > > > > > > > Rhich > > > 8150164 > > > > > > > Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine. >
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Heya, mind turning off the html your doubleing traffic.. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, OK so hdc would be: /boot (20-50mg) /(being root or main partition)= bigmg then a swap partition (I'm figuring about 100mg) do I need to tell the install what to put into /boot? As long as it's specified during install it will put all the files there by it's self. blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Is this what I would type in diskdruid? or would this be in fstab? thats the fstab line, in diskdruid just tell it /mnt/windows or something you really only get one option with a windows drive and thats the mount point. The uid=500 is an optional parameter to allow user 500 read/write access (theres also available the, gid= umask= options to setup a "vfat" group to deal with allowing mass access) I want to be able to have both Win LM be able to swap files e.g., downloads and such... Yes, just specify the mount point and your all set for moveing files around as root. Also while I have your attention is Samba the way to go with a Windows server/network? Well it's by far the simplest and cheapest sense you already have all the required software, you can get win32 nfs clients and theres always ftp. The howtos are for the most part simple enough for most to follow, the registry patches are in /usr/doc/samba-(version) if your running anything but the original windows 95. What is Wine all about? Well like the documents say, Wine is an alternate implementation of the windows API.
Re: [newbie] install problems
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: I did do the uninstall. It got rid of partitions and all, but it didn't get rid of the boot option. - Original Message - From: Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems Ok, I took your advise and installed it from scratch as opposed to 4win. Works fine with one major exception. The only way I can boot into is to use a boot disk. I never have gotten the lilo prompt to set up my preferences. I still have the option for choosing OS after the BIOS check, but it's the same one from the 4win I tried to install and if I select linux it still boots up windows. To make things worse, when I use the boot disk it takes almost 10 minutes to load up, which I know isn't right. Any thoughts on this? Once again, thanks in advance. Did you read the readme.txt file in your linux4win folder (it may be Mandrake folder)? It tells you how to uninstall it, and it is very simple. That way, you regain your harddisk space and get rid of the linux boot option. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Alex, I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for $200 NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html linux4win does something with the config.sys file,or the msdos.sys, I can't remember exactly which one it is,but if you start looking at thoem,you'll find it. It also leaves another file in the root directory that is a renamed copy of the one that it replaces/creates. find out which one,with notepad,and rename the linux file to the apropriate one,copy the other one to a temp dir if you aren't 100% sure it's the right one. (make a boot floppy just in case) merc
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ok, I got that part fixed, but I still can't boot into line without the boot disk. I think I messed up lilo when I installed it. How do I run lilo from command line or Xwin? - Original Message - From: Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems I did do the uninstall. It got rid of partitions and all, but it didn't get rid of the boot option. snip When you did the uninstall, did a DOS window open changing replacing the new config.sys with config.mdk (the backup)? If it didn't, you may need to try running uninstall.bat again. If it still does not work, you will need to do it by hand. In the C: directory, "copy config.mdk config.sys", then "del config.mdk" Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Birthdays are good for you. Statistics show that the people who have the most live the longest. NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] install problems
On Wed, 07 Jul 1999, you wrote: ok, I got that part fixed, but I still can't boot into line without the boot disk. I think I messed up lilo when I installed it. How do I run lilo from command line or Xwin? Try logging in as root and running lilo from the shell prompt. On my RH6.0 install it's in /sbin/lilo. The config is in /etc/lilo.conf. -- John Aldrich COL Tech Support === Chattanooga Online Internet 423-267-8867
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I did do the uninstall. It got rid of partitions and all, but it didn't get rid of the boot option. - Original Message - From: Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems Ok, I took your advise and installed it from scratch as opposed to 4win. Works fine with one major exception. The only way I can boot into is to use a boot disk. I never have gotten the lilo prompt to set up my preferences. I still have the option for choosing OS after the BIOS check, but it's the same one from the 4win I tried to install and if I select linux it still boots up windows. To make things worse, when I use the boot disk it takes almost 10 minutes to load up, which I know isn't right. Any thoughts on this? Once again, thanks in advance. Did you read the readme.txt file in your linux4win folder (it may be Mandrake folder)? It tells you how to uninstall it, and it is very simple. That way, you regain your harddisk space and get rid of the linux boot option. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Alex, I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for $200 NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] install problems
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems I did do the uninstall. It got rid of partitions and all, but it didn't get rid of the boot option. snip When you did the uninstall, did a DOS window open changing replacing the new config.sys with config.mdk (the backup)? If it didn't, you may need to try running uninstall.bat again. If it still does not work, you will need to do it by hand. In the C: directory, "copy config.mdk config.sys", then "del config.mdk" Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Birthdays are good for you. Statistics show that the people who have the most live the longest. NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
