Re: [newbie] tar error when building root filesystem
Today at 00:00, Russell W. Behne wrote: I'm trying to follow the instructions in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-Root-3.html to build a root filesystem for a pair of boxes. Under ``3.2 Creation of the root filesystem'' it says to do ``tar cClf / - | tar xpCf /tftpboot - '', but I get this error message: tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive Try `tar --help' for more information. Now, I can't grok any help that way. What should I do instead? Is there some way of gettingg this done? Nevermind. I've decided that since the two hosts do have small hard drives, that I'll just put the kernel there. It'll be easier that decrypting outdated howtos, save some space on the server, and speed up the boot process. They both boot up fine, and I have been able to get one to mount the home directory from the server so far. After getting all the other remote filesystems to mount I'll have to work on getting nis going. G'night! -- Mit freundlichen Gren, Russ. Sick of democrat and republican lies? http://badnarik.org/whybadnarik.php What is freedom, really? See this great flash presentation: http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf Altho' thy teacher act not as he preaches, Yet ne'ertheless, if good, do what he teaches; Good counsel, failing men may give, for why, He that's aground knows where the shoal doth lie. Sudden Pow'r is apt to be insolent, Sudden Liberty saucy; that behaves best which has grown gradually. http://www.TruthAboutWar.org Visit my nursery: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/behnesnursery/ The Behne Family Genealogy Project: http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/rwbehne/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tar error when building root filesystem
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Russell W. Behne wrote: Today at 00:00, Russell W. Behne wrote: I'm trying to follow the instructions in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-Root-3.html to build a root filesystem for a pair of boxes. Under ``3.2 Creation of the root filesystem'' it says to do ``tar cClf / - | tar xpCf /tftpboot - '', but I get this error message: tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive Try `tar --help' for more information. Now, I can't grok any help that way. What should I do instead? Is there some way of gettingg this done? Nevermind. I've decided that since the two hosts do have small hard drives, that I'll just put the kernel there. It'll be easier that decrypting outdated howtos, save some space on the server, and speed up the boot process. They both boot up fine, and I have been able to get one to mount the home directory from the server so far. After getting all the other remote filesystems to mount I'll have to work on getting nis going. G'night! Think I mentioned this before, but terminal-server (drakTermServ) sounds very similar to what you're trying to accomplish. (diskless client machines using the server's filesystem) -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] tar error when building root filesystem
I'm trying to follow the instructions in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-Root-3.html to build a root filesystem for a pair of boxes. Under ``3.2 Creation of the root filesystem'' it says to do ``tar cClf / - | tar xpCf /tftpboot - '', but I get this error message: tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive Try `tar --help' for more information. Now, I can't grok any help that way. What should I do instead? Is there some way of gettingg this done? -- Mit freundlichen Gren, Russ. Sick of democrat and republican lies? http://badnarik.org/whybadnarik.php What is freedom, really? See this great flash presentation: http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf Forewarn'd, forearm'd. When Knaves betray each other, one can scarce be blamed or the other pitied. http://www.TruthAboutWar.org Visit my nursery: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/behnesnursery/ The Behne Family Genealogy Project: http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/rwbehne/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tar CD
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:51:00 +0100 Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, This depends on how you want to use the tar files. You can tar and then use split. Tony. -Original Message- From: Michael Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] tar CD Does anyone have a one liner that will tar.bz to CD sized volumes. TIA -- Michael I was of the impression that tar would do volumes itself with the -M option. I am just too slow to work out how to impliment the volume size part. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar CD
Does anyone have a one liner that will tar.bz to CD sized volumes. TIA -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tar CD
Michael, This depends on how you want to use the tar files. You can tar and then use split. Tony. -Original Message- From: Michael Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] tar CD Does anyone have a one liner that will tar.bz to CD sized volumes. TIA -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar CD
You can make one big archive and then use the split command(split -b 700m filename). You can then use cat to put them back together. Michael Adams wrote: Does anyone have a one liner that will tar.bz to CD sized volumes. TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar CD
man tar lists: -L, --tape-length N change tapes after writing N*1024 bytes Unfortunately it seems it is not able to work together with 'z' (compress) option. If you type: tar cf test.tar -L 20 documents/ tar will create a first archive named test.tar, then stop requesting you to Prepare volume #2 for `test.tar' and hit return:. At this point you need to rename test.tar to i.e. test1.tar otherwise tar will overwrite it. Probably you could gzip the whole directory and then tar to small files as above. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a one liner that will tar.bz to CD sized volumes. TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar: how to extract first specific file then stop?
If i do a command like this tar -xv home/huff/a/home.htm -f /mnt/cdrom2/cudaback.tar it will find the file in an early directory, but then keep looking. Since i know there is only one home/huff/a/home.htm, is there any way to make it stop after the first hit? thanks, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar tumbling?
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 12:31:26PM +0100, Paul wrote: Greetings everyone, I seem to have a problem with my tar backups. When I check the backed up information, I see: -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 8 12:00 backup1.tar.gz -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 7 12:00 backup2.tar.gz Weird, since the backup1 file (made today) should be bigger than the one that rolled over to backup2 from yesterday; I installed OpenOffice 1.0.2. When listing the contents of the backup1 file (tar -tzf backup1.tar.gz), tar lists part of the file and then tells me gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now I run Mandrake 8.2 with [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]$ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 The command I use to make the backup-file is tar -czf backup1.tar.gz -X ~/div/dont_do ~/* where ~/div/dontdo contains the extensions of some files I do not want backed up. Am I hitting some kind of limit with tar files? Would be strange, at work we tar files that grow into the 1Gb size (running HP-UX though). Paul If you can't beat the limit, use the tar options for a multivolume archive. It took me a long time to figure out that in additionn to these options, you can specify the --file option multipe times to tell tar which multiple file manes to use for the pieces of the tarfile. And the multivolume option does *not* allow you to compress while tarring. Here's a command I use to back up a WIndows C partition: tar --one-file-system --multi-volume --tape-length=200 -c --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-1.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-2.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-3.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-4.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-5.tar /mnt/win_c -- hendrik -- If thou thinkest twice, before thou speakest once, thou wilt speak twice the better for it. -William Penn http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar tumbling?
In reply to Benjamin's mail, d.d. Sun, 9 Mar 2003 04:03:45 +0100: [...] file size (blocks, -f) 10 That means the system won't allow you to write files bigger than 100.000KB. One obvious way to change it is to use ulimit itself, although non-root users are limited in the ways changing the limits. From the top of my head, I am not sure where to change the system wide defaults. /etc/security/limits.conf might be one place to look at. Hi Benjamin and Hendrik, Ulimit -a shows exactly what you predicted. Thank you for the tip. I have already figured out how to go about the problem, namely by making several files, somewhat along the line of what Hendrik said. So thanks to you both! Paul -- I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best. -Oscar Wilde http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tar tumbling?
Greetings everyone, I seem to have a problem with my tar backups. When I check the backed up information, I see: -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 8 12:00 backup1.tar.gz -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 7 12:00 backup2.tar.gz Weird, since the backup1 file (made today) should be bigger than the one that rolled over to backup2 from yesterday; I installed OpenOffice 1.0.2. When listing the contents of the backup1 file (tar -tzf backup1.tar.gz), tar lists part of the file and then tells me gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now I run Mandrake 8.2 with [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]$ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 The command I use to make the backup-file is tar -czf backup1.tar.gz -X ~/div/dont_do ~/* where ~/div/dontdo contains the extensions of some files I do not want backed up. Am I hitting some kind of limit with tar files? Would be strange, at work we tar files that grow into the 1Gb size (running HP-UX though). Paul -- If thou thinkest twice, before thou speakest once, thou wilt speak twice the better for it. -William Penn http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar tumbling?
Hi. On Sat 2003-03-08 at 12:31:26 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to have a problem with my tar backups. Yes, you do have. ;) When I check the backed up information, I see: -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 8 12:00 backup1.tar.gz -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 7 12:00 backup2.tar.gz The size is exactly 100.000*1KB. Looks like you are hitting an imposed file size limit. Type ulimit -a and you should get something like [...] file size (blocks, -f) 10 That means the system won't allow you to write files bigger than 100.000KB. One obvious way to change it is to use ulimit itself, although non-root users are limited in the ways changing the limits. From the top of my head, I am not sure where to change the system wide defaults. /etc/security/limits.conf might be one place to look at. HTH, Benjamin. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
$ mkdosfs /dev/fd0 is only part of the story. Presumably working on preformatted or prepped disks? Yep - presumably the disk has already been (fd) formatted. But most floppy disks purchased these days have already been formatted. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tar questions, ta
It depends on how you define a kilobyte. Crappy ms say 1kb = 1000 bytes. The true world of computers says 1kb = 1024 bytes. Because hex is to the base 2 and decimal is to the base 10 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Negus Sent: 06 March 2003 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:16 pm, Michael Adams wrote: What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? An empty dos-formatted floppy has 1,457,664 bytes free - which if my calculator doesn't deceive me yields: divided by 1024 gives 1423.5 (1k blocks) divided by 1024 again gives 1.39 (Mb) John _ GRAND JEU SMS : Pour gagner un NOKIA 7650, envoyez le mot IF au 61321 (prix d'un SMS + 0.35 euro). Un SMS vous dira si vous avez gagné. Règlement : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/sign.sms Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:38, David E. Fox wrote: What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not free space.) Like another poster said, 1440 1K blocks. On the other hand, that assumes you don't put a filesystem on it, which would take up some portion of the available space. My impression was it was a 2Mb RAW disk and when the filesystem (DOS) is written to it. 1.44MB remains. Do you create the volumed tarball direct to floppy's or on the hard drive first? Either. But you can send the tar right to the floppy, without creating a file system first. You just need to visualize the floppy disk as a short, flattened tape :). # tar -cvf /dev/fd0 /path/to/data Your saying that it will just say put in next floppy like winzip does? Doh, if this works, then the previous question is redundant. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:21, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 06:16, Michael Adams wrote: 1. I backed up an old system and i made the mistake of using absolute paths. I now want to extract from this tar ball into my newer system. I want to extract individual files and want to place them in an 'extraction' directory. Can i do it? How? (if i get it wrong i could write over existing files) I like using the facilities within Konqueror as a file manager for handling TAR/GZ files - then I can just drag/drop files where I want them - irregardless of paths. Yeah, me too, but konq won't see .hiddenfiles in a tar. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
David E. Fox wrote: Either. But you can send the tar right to the floppy, without creating a file system first. You just need to visualize the floppy disk as a short, flattened tape :). # tar -cvf /dev/fd0 /path/to/data better yet, why not just as it is, a device.? better yet, why not use cpio? peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
Michael Adams wrote: My impression was it was a 2Mb RAW disk and when the filesystem (DOS) is written to it. 1.44MB remains. this is where you need to start looking at your system hardware as devices, not names associated with description or function. capacity becomes what it is, not 1m44 that oos decided so they could keep things simple. ram memory management is another example of short sided thinking, as is chs limits and lba, as is oos. Your saying that it will just say put in next floppy like winzip does? Doh, if this works, then the previous question is redundant. better. other oos is redundant. if a device is considered as removable, why not consider it as continual, also? this is logic and reasoning allowed by using unix and linux. and another way of thinking, with out fences, who needs gates? peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
Michael Adams wrote: Yeah, me too, but konq won't see .hiddenfiles in a tar. it will if you enable. .directories, do not show in tree structure. or so i have not found in x setup. i would venture that it could be from source mod. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
Stephen Kuhn wrote: I like using the facilities within Konqueror as a file manager for handling TAR/GZ files - then I can just drag/drop files where I want them - irregardless of paths. admit it, you are just lazy. but then again, who am i to talk about lazy? i never registered or updated anything with oos. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 19:49, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:21, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 06:16, Michael Adams wrote: 1. I backed up an old system and i made the mistake of using absolute paths. I now want to extract from this tar ball into my newer system. I want to extract individual files and want to place them in an 'extraction' directory. Can i do it? How? (if i get it wrong i could write over existing files) I like using the facilities within Konqueror as a file manager for handling TAR/GZ files - then I can just drag/drop files where I want them - irregardless of paths. Yeah, me too, but konq won't see .hiddenfiles in a tar. Konqueror will show .hiddenfiles in a tar if you select 'Show Hidden Files' under the 'View' menu. Just tested it :) Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:13, g wrote: Michael Adams wrote: Yeah, me too, but konq won't see .hiddenfiles in a tar. it will if you enable. .directories, do not show in tree structure. or so i have not found in x setup. i would venture that it could be from source mod. Either I'm doing something right or something wrong - I can see all the dot files in tar's and the likes - everything - so maybe it's a Konq setting that's been flipped for me? I know that somewhere I did set Konq to view hidden files and backup files (same with Naughty-Lust) - so maybe that's the go with that - because Konq treats a TAR as a directory or a file structure? Now for more coffee... -- Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:05:01 +1100 8:05am up 10:58, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.15, 0.19 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The time was the 19th of May, 1780. The place was Hartford, Connecticut. The day has gone down in New England history as a terrible foretaste of Judgement Day. For at noon the skies turned from blue to grey and by mid-afternoon had blackened over so densely that, in that religious age, men fell on their knees and begged a final blessing before the end came. The Connecticut House of Representatives was in session. And, as some of the men fell down and others clamored for an immediate adjournment, the Speaker of the House, one Col. Davenport, came to his feet. He silenced them and said these words: The day of judgment is either approaching or it is not. If it is not, there is no cause for adjournment. If it is, I choose to be found doing my duty. I wish therefore that candles may be brought. -- Alistair Cooke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
better yet, why not just as it is, a device.? I thought that's what i did :). I was tarring directly to /dev/fd0. better yet, why not use cpio? Why not? My feeling is that tar is a lot easier, and probably a lot more portable. I look at the cpio man page and there are all sorts of different formats and to me (and probably a lot of newbies) it's more complicated than it needs to be. Besides I don't think you save anything with it as compared to tar. But there are lots of people (bsd types maybe) that are really conversant with cpio. I figured it would complicate matters more if it were brought up on a newbie list :). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
My impression was it was a 2Mb RAW disk and when the filesystem (DOS) is written to it. 1.44MB remains. AFAIK, the 2mb capacity is 'unformatted' and 'formmatted' means that the drive is low-level prepped for use, timing tracks and so forth have been written. At that point it's a 1.44 meg capacity device. Then you get to format it (i.e., make a filesystem). Of course, formatting in linux is a two step process - fdformat and mkfs. People used to Windows and DOS think of it as one unified process. Your saying that it will just say put in next floppy like winzip does? Doh, if this works, then the previous question is redundant. If you add the -M flag, yes. :) Actually it will say prepare medium in /dev/fd0 or something similar - it doesn't know or care that fd0 is a floppy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar questions, ta
1. I backed up an old system and i made the mistake of using absolute paths. I now want to extract from this tar ball into my newer system. I want to extract individual files and want to place them in an 'extraction' directory. Can i do it? How? (if i get it wrong i could write over existing files) 2. Speaking Volumes:-) What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not free space.) Do you create the volumed tarball direct to floppy's or on the hard drive first? What number of blocks would fit on a UDP? formatted CD-RW disk? tar -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:16 pm, Michael Adams wrote: What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not free space.) 1440 I guess -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta
What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not free space.) Like another poster said, 1440 1K blocks. On the other hand, that assumes you don't put a filesystem on it, which would take up some portion of the available space. Do you create the volumed tarball direct to floppy's or on the hard drive first? Either. But you can send the tar right to the floppy, without creating a file system first. You just need to visualize the floppy disk as a short, flattened tape :). # tar -cvf /dev/fd0 /path/to/data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
well for max file sizes, i found out for win95/win98 its 4Gb-1Kb, and for ntfs its 4Gb-1byte, on ntfs5.1 its t big to cause anyone any problems, in the trillion bytes range. So the 2Gb limit i'm having is not the target max file size limits. NTFS r/w problems only occur when the drive is in the Linux machine, not remotely connected across networks. Am i right in thinking it doesn't effect tape devices because there not block devices ? -Original Message- From: Joseph Braddock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4 I'm just picking up on the tail end of this thread, so someone might have already answered this. I'm assuming your NT partition is setup with FAT. If so, FAT (Win9x, WinNT) has a 2GB limit. That's why when drives larger than 2GB first appeared, they were set up with multiple 2GB partitions. I believe that FAT32 and NTFS gets around this. Problem is that NTFS is currently read-only in Linux (AFAIK). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
Actually, FAT32 has been included as an available filesystem since win 95B came out. As for winnt 4, you have to purchase it as an extra piece of software. Michael -- Michael Viron Project Manager / Primary Developer / Manager of Online Operations General Education Online BTW www.sysinternals.com offer a FAT32 filesystem for NT (for a moderate cost.) I've used it for some time and it works fine. It allows both Win9x and NT (and Linux) to all use a halfway decent filesystem. Of course, Win2k and XP don't have this problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
Well, m i thought. So i set-up a quick LM9. did a tar of about 4Gig ( a 9G i borrowed :o) but he wants it back :o( )and tried to copy it to the NT machine using cp Cad.tar ///xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G did a copy to a win98 machine cp Cad.tar //x/xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G But the LM9 machine let me create a 4G tar file. Both client machines were mounted with smbmount. So it must be I'm gonna try something else. I'm going to tar from my problematic machine ( dimishing disk space ) to this LM9 i just set up. It doesn't matter if it runs out of space, its just to play with. So its off, and i'm off home. Will let you know tomorrow. :o) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
I'm just picking up on the tail end of this thread, so someone might have already answered this. I'm assuming your NT partition is setup with FAT. If so, FAT (Win9x, WinNT) has a 2GB limit. That's why when drives larger than 2GB first appeared, they were set up with multiple 2GB partitions. I believe that FAT32 and NTFS gets around this. Problem is that NTFS is currently read-only in Linux (AFAIK). Joeb On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 13:31, Ken Walker wrote: Well, m i thought. So i set-up a quick LM9. did a tar of about 4Gig ( a 9G i borrowed :o) but he wants it back :o( )and tried to copy it to the NT machine using cp Cad.tar ///xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G did a copy to a win98 machine cp Cad.tar //x/xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G But the LM9 machine let me create a 4G tar file. Both client machines were mounted with smbmount. So it must be I'm gonna try something else. I'm going to tar from my problematic machine ( dimishing disk space ) to this LM9 i just set up. It doesn't matter if it runs out of space, its just to play with. So its off, and i'm off home. Will let you know tomorrow. :o) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153. Stating 'File size limit exceeded'. I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G. I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive. I'm logging in as a superuser. I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big file would be better for me. Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've tar'd 4.6G to another LM9 machine. Many thanks Mr Smiley. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
Mr Smiley, There is file size limitations on Windows. I am not to sure about NT4 but as you have the problem I guess it is. fat32 will not let you do a file bigger then 2gb. Are you using fat32 on ntfs? I would hazard a guess you are using fat32, if not the earlier versions of ntfs might not have been able to do larger than 2gb. Wk2 ntfs can handle it. You will be best checking the MS web for info on nt4 ntfs. Tony. -Original Message- From: Ken Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4 I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153. Stating 'File size limit exceeded'. I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G. I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive. I'm logging in as a superuser. I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big file would be better for me. Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've tar'd 4.6G to another LM9 machine. Many thanks Mr Smiley. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153. Stating 'File size limit exceeded'. 2,097,153k is a signed long (32 bits) on an NT platform, so it's the limit of lseek() which is the API a multi-platform tar would probably use. The win32 API SetFilePointerEx() uses 64 bit integers. Anyone fancy hacking tar? -- Richard Urwin, Software Design Engineer Schenck Test Automation Braemar Court, 1311b Melton Road, Syston, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Walker Sent: 28 November 2002 10:38 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4 I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153. Stating 'File size limit exceeded'. I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G. I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive. I'm logging in as a superuser. I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big file would be better for me. Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've tar'd 4.6G to another LM9 machine. Many thanks Mr Smiley. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar again
ok I tried to run the command to a tar file mldonkey in particular and I got this error. It makes no sense to me tar: This does not look like a tar archive tar: Skipping to next header tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors this is the name of the tar file exactly that I'm trying to do mldonkey-2.00.shared.i586-Linux.tar.bz2.tar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar again
In reply to root's mail, d.d. Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:57:59 -0500: this is the name of the tar file exactly that I'm trying to do mldonkey-2.00.shared.i586-Linux.tar.bz2.tar tar xfvj mldo* The j will handle the bz2 part Paul -- Life is like a game of cards. The hand that is dealt you represents determinism; the way you play it is free will. -Jawaharlal Nehru http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.8.3 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar files
Have you told Konqueror via its settings to display hidden files? On Sunday 13 October 2002 11:23 pm, Michael Adams wrote: Just curious, does this work for hidden files and directories as well. Konq will go into a tar but not see the . files. On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:49, Franki wrote: simple way to do it is to install mc (Midnight commander) its a console tool that has a simple GUI and can enter tar files just like directories.. so you an go into a tar file, and copy its contents out to a real filesystem. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2001 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] tar files Is there a program I need to use to install tar files? or am I just not doing it right. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar files
Is there a program I need to use to install tar files? or am I just not doing it right. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Tar or zip?
or you can just tar it, winzip can open both tar, and tar.gz files just fine. rgds frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek Jennings Sent: Monday, 23 September 2002 4:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar or zip? On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 8:25 pm, Alastair Scott wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:05, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ? Yes. Alastair Or for those who prefer GUIs KDE MenuApplicationsArchivingCompressionArk Select New Pick file name with .zip extension Drag and drop files into the window. Naturally the zip RPM has to be installed for it to work. If you prefer there is also Gnuzip. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 11:45 pm, you wrote: Try GnoZip or LnxZip, both of which are WinZip like applications on your installation disks. Plenty of options, then :-) I'll try at least one of them in the next day or two - I seem to be screamingly busy just now Thanks to all who answered Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tar or zip?
I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:05, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ? Yes. Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. WinZip will expand .tar.gz files, but painfully - in two steps and with a clunky user interface ... Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar hep
Hello everyone. Im having trouble with creating a tar file out of a directory that I have made filled with Icons so that I can install it on my computer. If anyone knows how to make a tar file please tell me.Anthony VDo You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re: [newbie] TAR problems
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:03:26 -0400 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 June 2002 12:21 am, you wrote: I've been having some problems running tar. I type something like tar -x foo.tar and it just hangs there for a long time. I've tried using -x -v and -t, but it still hangs indefinitely, doing nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Matt Dalen try tar -xvf foo.tar and if it is a gz or gzip file try tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz or what ever the extension is on the file. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Yes. The 'f' means you're specifying a file other than the default device, which, according to the man page is /dev/rmt0. And, just to add to Dennis' suggestion, if the file is foo.tar.bz2, use tar xvfj. However I'm told on older versions you need to use tar xvfI. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] TAR problems
I've been having some problems running tar. I type something like tar -x foo.tar and it just hangs there for a long time. I've tried using -x -v and -t, but it still hangs indefinitely, doing nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Matt Dalen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TAR problems
On Thursday 27 June 2002 12:21 am, you wrote: I've been having some problems running tar. I type something like tar -x foo.tar and it just hangs there for a long time. I've tried using -x -v and -t, but it still hangs indefinitely, doing nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Matt Dalen try tar -xvf foo.tar and if it is a gz or gzip file try tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz or what ever the extension is on the file. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar; sane; snapscan; how to
If you don't have any success with the agfa packages try installing the gphoto2 package via the Software Manager in Mandrake Control Panel. I have a Nikon 880 USB camera and got things working fine using GTkam which is part of this package. simon On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 23:02, Birger wrote: i`ve done sevral how to search with google on how to get my usb agfa snapscan 1212u to work with with mandrake.(xsane) i`ve downloaded the latest packs/drivers for snapscan1212u and sane-backends. an now some/most of you will have a good laugh... How do i unpack this files? and where do they go? should i rightclick on the tar file an choose openwithterminalshell, and the write the tar-command to unpack the files? thank you for reading this and i hope you can help this totaly newbie. either with some links or advice.. peace biger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar; sane; snapscan; how to
On Friday 17 May 2002 05:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
On Friday 17 May 2002 16:02, you wrote:
How do i unpack this files? and where do they go?
should i rightclick on the tar file an choose
openwithterminalshell, and the write the tar-command
to unpack the files?
The easiest way is rightmouse click the tar file down to archiver,
leftmouse click extract,choose destination and OK and your done.
That unpacks them.
Then put up a shell in consol , cd to source directory.
./configure 2 /errorlogfileyourchoice
make 2 /errorlogfileyourchoice
make install.
between ./configure, make, and make install check the error log
file to see what problems you may have, these can include
dependencies, and in your PATH permissions to install for instance.
it is nearly always better to install programmes as root, and doll
out permissions to other users.
Perhaps someone on the list could tell us how to change the
destination directory to one of your own personal choice.
After the tarball has been unpacked, cd to it's dir and type
'./configure --help |less'. That should display all the standard
options plus any the author may have added. A standard option is
--prefix=DIR Most tarballs are configured to install to
/usr/local/, so the binary ends up in /usr/local/bin/You'll see
somethin like this if you do a 'less Makefile'
#prefix = /usr/local
BINDIR = ${prefix}/bin
# BINDIR = /usr/local/bin
MANDIR = ${prefix}/man
Mandrake rpms OTOH, put binaries in /usr/bin/. So to make the
binary install to /usr/bin/ just use the prefix option:
./configure --prefix=/usr
or, you could edit the Makefile toBINDIR = /usr/bin or where
ever you want. Careful tho, some apps need to be where they're set to
go, /usr/X11R6/bin for example. Look thru the Makefile, there's
other destinations you may want to change, or at least be aware of.
Many tarball authors include an 'uninstall' option. To
uninstall the app, cd to the dir the source unpacked in and
'make uninstall' FWIW tho, I've found that doesn't always clean up
everything. I use 'locate -i name_of_app' to search for stragglers,
or to uninstall if the author didn't provide the uninstall option
(You'll probly need to run 'updatedb' first if your slocate db hasn't
been updated since you installed the tarball). Once you know where
the stuff is, just delete it. Since you had to be root to do 'make
install', you'll need to be root to updatedb, uninstall, and/or
delete.
Most tarballs include these file, README, INSTALL, Makefile, and
configure, along with a /DOCS dir. They're all worth lookin thru
before you compile the app for the first time. Another good source
of info for 'Compiling from source', and y'all might wanna read, is
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/index.php Docs
Specially if what I've written is clear as mud ;)
--
Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas
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Re: [newbie] tar; sane; snapscan; how to
On Friday 17 May 2002 16:02, you wrote: i`ve done sevral how to search with google on how to get my usb agfa snapscan 1212u to work with with mandrake.(xsane) i`ve downloaded the latest packs/drivers for snapscan1212u and sane-backends. How do i unpack this files? and where do they go? should i rightclick on the tar file an choose openwithterminalshell, and the write the tar-command to unpack the files? The easiest way is rightmouse click the tar file down to archiver, leftmouse click extract,choose destination and OK and your done. That unpacks them. Then put up a shell in consol , cd to source directory. ./configure 2 /errorlogfileyourchoice make 2 /errorlogfileyourchoice make install. between ./configure, make, and make install check the error log file to see what problems you may have, these can include dependencies, and in your PATH permissions to install for instance. it is nearly always better to install programmes as root, and doll out permissions to other users. Perhaps someone on the list could tell us how to change the destination directory to one of your own personal choice. If you mess up you cannot uninstall, though it's just as easy to overwrite, it will not make any difference. But if you install a programme called checkinstall and replace make install with checkinstall your rpm package manager will have a list there that you can use to uninstall. You may have to do a find files to find the directory that the app is actioned from. This is very often ,but not always /usr/bin. Then go to Mandrake Control Center and configure a Kstart Menu entry to start the programme any time you want, and if it's a favourite you can drag and drop the kstart menu icon to either desktop or taskbar. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar file size limit???
I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: #!/bin/sh backup=home-$(date +%m-%d-%y) tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. TIA -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
Umm, I wasn't aware that there is a size limit with tar. This warning you get, is that when you use the M flag, or even when you don't? If you want to save time, I suggest you use: tar cvfz /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar.gz /home ... this will gzip up the tar file. It probably will take up quite a lot more time seeing as your $home's are so big. Try delete useless files like cache, may make a big difference too... rm -Rf /home/*/.mozilla/default/*/Cache (as root) will delete all your Mozilla Cache directories. It may be the Samba file limit, but as I have no undestanding of Samba I can't tell. On Google all I came up with a quick glance is Lone-Tar.. which does have a limit of 2 gigs, but as for Gnu-Tar I'm not sure. Greetings Ralph On Sun, 12 May 2002, David wrote: I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: #!/bin/sh backup=home-$(date +%m-%d-%y) tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. TIA -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
OK - wondered why my reply to this hadn't shown up then realized the reply to address was set to go back to David direct. The problem here is that /mnt/TRASH-BOX (nice mount point!) is /mnt/W$ - meaning FAT32. FAT32 has a max file size of 2GB. Brian On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 08:50, David wrote: I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: #!/bin/sh backup=home-$(date +%m-%d-%y) tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. TIA -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
Brian Parish wrote: OK - wondered why my reply to this hadn't shown up then realized the reply to address was set to go back to David direct. The problem here is that /mnt/TRASH-BOX (nice mount point!) is /mnt/W$ - meaning FAT32. FAT32 has a max file size of 2GB. So does ext2, which has annoyed me on more than one occasion. Does XFS or ReiserFS have this limitation? BTW I also found out by accident that, while NTFS allows files larger than 2G, you can't access them from Linux. ls displays the correct size, but any program that attempts actually to *open* the file treats it as though it has size zero. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
Hi, Hi All, On my machine that dual boots Linux 8.1 and Win89 ( which I have no CD burner on ) I need to do the following: 1- tar and zip my /home folder and save it on the D: partition ( a win fat32 partition ) 2- I'll split the partition I have linux on right now into two partitions: / and /home 3- I'll do a fresh install 4- then I want to restore the /home I just saved on the win partition to the new /home I just created. I need somebody to tell me what are the commands I need to run for the taring and zipping, and then untarring and unzipping into the new /home directory :) ( in details please, but not with the regular: do a command -x option without the quots thing ) And If everything went fine,will my mail that I saved in a folder under KDE be saved as well ? or no ? thanks for your patience :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:32:05 -0400 Hanan Shargi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I need somebody to tell me what are the commands I need to run for the taring and zipping, and then untarring and unzipping into the new /home directory :) as root, cd / tar -cWvf home.tar home/ gzip -v home.tar gzip -vt home.tar.gz All three commands provide verification. Alternatively you could do a bzme home.tar.gz as well, which will compress to a .bz2 saving (most of the time) some more space yet. -- Cheers dg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
On Monday 29 April 2002 01:32, Hanan Shargi wrote: Hi, Hi All, On my machine that dual boots Linux 8.1 and Win89 ( which I have no CD burner on ) I need to do the following: 1- tar and zip my /home folder and save it on the D: partition ( a win fat32 partition ) 2- I'll split the partition I have linux on right now into two partitions: / and /home 3- I'll do a fresh install 4- then I want to restore the /home I just saved on the win partition to the new /home I just created. I need somebody to tell me what are the commands I need to run for the taring and zipping, and then untarring and unzipping into the new /home directory :) ( in details please, but not with the regular: do a command -x option without the quots thing ) I don't know what you mean by that, but here goes su cd /home tar -cvf * home.tar # the -v option is not necessary, but I find it reassuring to see all those file names! gzip home.tar #actually, you can do these as one command, I think, but I always prefer the long way mv home.tar.gz /mnt/win_d # or whatever your D: drive is called after install ... mv /mnt/win_d/home.tar.gz /home tar -zxvf home.tar.gz Create a user for each home directory, then (as root, of course) for each directory chown -R fred /home/fred # or whoever chgrp -R fred /home/fred If you have a lot of users, it would be better to do this as a shell script And If everything went fine,will my mail that I saved in a folder under KDE be saved as well ? or no ? Yes Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
Many Thanks Darwin Robin ...and they say Linux lacks the support !! cheers - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar error?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Jon Doe wrote: I have this in a script: OF=/home/jon/backup-$(date +%m%d%Y).tar.gz tar -cZf $OF /home/jon/backups and when I run it, it works but I get this: tar: Removing leading `/' from member names tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? If I am reading what you have there correctly I think you may need th -C option because your are tarring it to a /home/jon/backups( a different dir than /home/jon/. If I am not understanding what u are doing correctly disregard this :) -- . --- .. |o_o | /_ 0 | |:_/ | Give Micro$oft the Bird \_| // \ \ Use Linux / \ (| | ) | ) | | | /'\_ _/`\ | ) | | | \___)=(___/ |_) (_) | Chad Young \__/ Registered Linux User #195191 (___| @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18pre1 #2 Fri Dec 28 14:41:58 AST 2001 i686 unknown 1:35am up 6:30, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar error?
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 01:40:32 -0400 (AST), skidley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this in a script: OF=/home/jon/backup-$(date +%m%d%Y).tar.gz tar -cZf $OF /home/jon/backups and when I run it, it works but I get this: tar: Removing leading `/' from member names tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors To make it tar.gz you can use lowercase 'z'. Paul If I am reading what you have there correctly I think you may need th -C option because your are tarring it to a /home/jon/backups( a different dir than /home/jon/. If I am not understanding what u are doing correctly disregard this :) -- If you are afraid of being lonely, don't try to be right. -Jules Renard http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.5 claws Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar command ?
On Monday 19 November 2001 11:30, you wrote: Hi! I like to zip all my /var/named files in one zip files. I need the command how to tar it. tar cvf archive.tar /var/named Can someone email me the command ? Best regards, SKLIM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar command ?
Personally, after I have tar'd the files, I prefer to compress the tar with the -H option. This gives a 20% better compression. compress -H thetarfile.tar Dan B - Original Message - From: Anuerin G. Diaz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] tar command ? tar zcvf thetarfile.tgz [insert your /var/named files here] the z in the option means that the files are to be compressed using gzip. you can omit it like tar cvf thetarfile.tar [insert your /var/named files here] and you will have one tar file containing all the specified files but no compression. fyi, the extension is not necessary. its just there as a convention in making humans be able to interpret a files function more easily. ciao! SKLIM wrote: Hi!I like to zip all my /var/named files in one zip files.I need the command how to tar it.Can someone email me the command ?Best regards,SKLIM -- "Programming, an artform that fights back." = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar command ?
Thank .. I have done it again. Thank for your information ... Thank U Thank U Best regards, SKLIM - Original Message - From: Dan Butler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] tar command ? Personally, after I have tar'd the files, I prefer to compress the tar with the -H option. This gives a 20% better compression. compress -H thetarfile.tar Dan B - Original Message - From: Anuerin G. Diaz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] tar command ? tar zcvf thetarfile.tgz [insert your /var/named files here] the z in the option means that the files are to be compressed using gzip. you can omit it like tar cvf thetarfile.tar [insert your /var/named files here] and you will have one tar file containing all the specified files but no compression. fyi, the extension is not necessary. its just there as a convention in making humans be able to interpret a files function more easily. ciao! SKLIM wrote: Hi!I like to zip all my /var/named files in one zip files.I need the command how to tar it.Can someone email me the command ?Best regards,SKLIM -- "Programming, an artform that fights back." = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar command ?
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, SKLIM wrote: Hi! I like to zip all my /var/named files in one zip files. I need the command how to tar it. Can someone email me the command ? Best regards, SKLIM tar czvf file.tar.gz /var/named -- Linux User #195191 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tar --newer option
Hi there, as usual when I see a problem on my Linux box, I wonder if I am stupid or if there is a bug. Fortunately, I'm stupid more than often. But I was trying to use tar yesterday to do a backup of my /home rep. for files which are newer than August 29 2001. So I issued the following command, which is correct, according to the man page: # tar -cjv -N 28-08-2001 -f 8Septembre2001.tar.bz2 /home/michel However, the content of the tar archive is only made of directories. No files at all. Here's a sample: ... home/michel/GNUstep/Defaults/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/Icons/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/IconSets/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/SoundSets/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Pixmaps/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Sounds/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Styles/ home/michel/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Backgrounds/ home/michel/GNUstep/.AppInfo/ home/michel/GNUstep/.AppInfo/WPrefs/ home/michel/GNUstep/.AppInfo/WindowMaker/ home/michel/images/ home/michel/images/.etc/ home/michel/images/daumier/ home/michel/images/daumier/.pics/ home/michel/images/daumier/.pics/med/ home/michel/images/daumier/.xvpics/ home/michel/images/.pics/ home/michel/images/.pics/med/ . Etc. So what is wrong? I've picked these commands from the manpage, issued them in a meaningful order, and I get only directories, without any files I'm using -j to compress with Bzip2, but I have used GZip as well, and got similar results. So does anyone has an idea about what is wrong? Please don't tell me that I am stupid, I'll do that for myself ... :-) Michel Hardy-Vallée -- C'est fou ce qu'un python boa, on dirait un cameleon citerne. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar Installs
Jeff Malka wrote: Is there a way to force it to install in a specific directory. Like /opt? When I do a TAR -zxvf filename then I run ./configure, make and make install, I can see on the console screen that there's nothing wrong after the install. My big problem is not knowing where it put the file to start the program or what the name would be. The latest culprit is the Firestarter program. Is there any rhyme or reason to this? Usually programs drop themselves in /usr/bin You can do locate program to find where it is on the disk. Often there is a conf.home file in the source files, which tells where the program will be put. Hope this helps Paul -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854 I d/l'ed the RPM of Firestarter and can't get it to work. I'm currently running PMFirewall, could that be the problem? It (Firestarter) exits with a seg fault. At first it complained that I didn't have the correct Gnome libs. I d/l'ed what I could find, and it satisfied its dependencies and installed but still does not work right... Any ideas? The screen shots look great. (would like to have a graphical Firewall - any front end like that for PMFirewall?) -- /\ DarkLord \/
RE: [newbie] Tar Installs
Use: tar -zxvf filname -C /directory/where/you/want/it/to/go HTH, Bill P.S. Uppercase C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gcobb Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Tar Installs I've got this really basic question that I haven't been able to conquer just yet. When I do a TAR -zxvf filename then I run ./configure, make and make install, I can see on the console screen that there's nothing wrong after the install. My big problem is not knowing where it put the file to start the program or what the name would be. The latest culprit is the Firestarter program. Is there any rhyme or reason to this? Thanks!
Re: [newbie] Tar Installs
When I do a TAR -zxvf filename then I run ./configure, make and make
install, I can see on the console screen that there's nothing wrong
after the install. My big problem is not knowing where it put the
file to start the program or what the name would be. The latest
culprit is the Firestarter program. Is there any rhyme or reason to
this?
Well you can look in the Makefile to see where it's fixin to put the
binary, EG, you'll see somethin like:
-
prefix = /usr/local
exec_prefix = ${prefix}
bindir = ${exec_prefix}/bin (so it gets put in /usr/local/bin)
or since you were root when you ran 'make install', you can type
'locate -u' to update the slocate DB, and then 'locate app' to see
where it got put. 'Course you can risk editing the Makefile to put the
binary where you want it also.
--
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] Tar Installs
On the console: whereis firestarter or which firestarter --- Original Message --- "gcobb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote on Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:19:11 -0600 -- I've got this really basic question that I haven't been able to conquer just yet. When I do a TAR -zxvf filename then I run ./configure, make and make install, I can see on the console screen that there's nothing wrong after the install. My big problem is not knowing where it put the file to start the program or what the name would be. The latest culprit is the Firestarter program. Is there any rhyme or reason to this? Thanks! - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
RE: [newbie] Tar Installs
Traditionally the bulk of rpms end up in /usr, /usr/local is where you put stuff you install while /usr/src is where you place the source for stuff you install. there is also /opt which sometimes has a symplic link back to somewhere with more space such as /usr. Hope that helps a little bit. The key is to place a symbolic link to your program in a directory that is on your path. Check your path by typing: echo $PATH. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On the console: whereis firestarter or which firestarter --- Original Message --- "gcobb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote on Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:19:11 -0600 -- I've got this really basic question that I haven't been able to conquer just yet. When I do a TAR -zxvf filename then I run ./configure, make and make install, I can see on the console screen that there's nothing wrong after the install. My big problem is not knowing where it put the file to start the program or what the name would be. The latest culprit is the Firestarter program. Is there any rhyme or reason to this? Thanks! - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! - This mail sent through IMP: imapssl.eng.auburn.edu
[newbie] TAR
Hello everyone, Please can you help i'm getting desprete now. I need to restore some files from a tape i have but cant workout how to do it. have done a "tar tv log.txt" toget a list of all the files and have fond it but cant get it back. the filename in the log.txt says "u5/EVOLIVE.MR/MACHINES/MACHINES" tryed to do a "tar xv u5/EVOLIVE.MR/MACHINES/MACHINES" but nothing happens please help Manuel Tuthill
Re: [newbie] TAR Issue
Ooops... I started deleting a crap-load of mail from my archives and then just simply forgot about this one!! I hope you haven't been cursing me, waiting for a reply. :-) Try the following: tar -cMv --exclude /proc/* -f /dev/tape / --Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info, but now the question is what tar command do I use to exclude this directory? tar cMvf /dev/tape / seems to work so that it will use multiple tapes, what swtch is to exclude ? TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 07:31:56 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue Nothing in /proc is "really" a file. These are generated by the kernel when you cat the file for information. They appear as files... but only "somtain" something when reqeusted. You should leave this directory out of your backup as it will be re-created should you need to restore. --Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well everything was working fine. I was on my third tape when it reached ./proc/kcore and it just sat there! I tried the whole routine again, and once again it died in the same place with different tapes. What is ./proc/kcore? Anybody know how I can get around this situation? I want a total back up of my system before I install Mandrake 7.1! BTW- Can I upgrade form 6.0 to 7.1 with minimal impact on PHP PostgreSQL etc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 02:20:43 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue "Lad. Gaal" wrote: I want to back up the hard drives on my unit to a SCSI 8mm tape (exabyte 8205) drive. For the life of me I can't figure out how to get the tar command to go more than one tape. [...] I've tried tar -cvf /dev/tape /. but when the tape fills it dies, so I tried tar -cvLf /dev/tape /. I just get a bunch of ASII across the monitor. Try this one : tar cMvf /dev/tape / This will create a multi-volume archive. But maybe if you compressed it (with the 'z' flag), it would take only one tape. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~! __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] TAR Issue
Thanks for the info, but now the question is what tar command do I use to exclude this directory? tar cMvf /dev/tape / seems to work so that it will use multiple tapes, what swtch is to exclude ? TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 07:31:56 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue Nothing in /proc is "really" a file. These are generated by the kernel when you cat the file for information. They appear as files... but only "somtain" something when reqeusted. You should leave this directory out of your backup as it will be re-created should you need to restore. --Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well everything was working fine. I was on my third tape when it reached ./proc/kcore and it just sat there! I tried the whole routine again, and once again it died in the same place with different tapes. What is ./proc/kcore? Anybody know how I can get around this situation? I want a total back up of my system before I install Mandrake 7.1! BTW- Can I upgrade form 6.0 to 7.1 with minimal impact on PHP PostgreSQL etc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 02:20:43 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue "Lad. Gaal" wrote: I want to back up the hard drives on my unit to a SCSI 8mm tape (exabyte 8205) drive. For the life of me I can't figure out how to get the tar command to go more than one tape. [...] I've tried tar -cvf /dev/tape /. but when the tape fills it dies, so I tried tar -cvLf /dev/tape /. I just get a bunch of ASII across the monitor. Try this one : tar cMvf /dev/tape / This will create a multi-volume archive. But maybe if you compressed it (with the 'z' flag), it would take only one tape. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~! __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] TAR Issue
Well everything was working fine. I was on my third tape when it reached ./proc/kcore and it just sat there! I tried the whole routine again, and once again it died in the same place with different tapes. What is ./proc/kcore? Anybody know how I can get around this situation? I want a total back up of my system before I install Mandrake 7.1! BTW- Can I upgrade form 6.0 to 7.1 with minimal impact on PHP PostgreSQL etc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 02:20:43 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue "Lad. Gaal" wrote: I want to back up the hard drives on my unit to a SCSI 8mm tape (exabyte 8205) drive. For the life of me I can't figure out how to get the tar command to go more than one tape. [...] I've tried tar -cvf /dev/tape /. but when the tape fills it dies, so I tried tar -cvLf /dev/tape /. I just get a bunch of ASII across the monitor. Try this one : tar cMvf /dev/tape / This will create a multi-volume archive. But maybe if you compressed it (with the 'z' flag), it would take only one tape. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~!
Re: [newbie] TAR Issue
Nothing in /proc is "really" a file. These are generated by the kernel when you cat the file for information. They appear as files... but only "somtain" something when reqeusted. You should leave this directory out of your backup as it will be re-created should you need to restore. --Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well everything was working fine. I was on my third tape when it reached ./proc/kcore and it just sat there! I tried the whole routine again, and once again it died in the same place with different tapes. What is ./proc/kcore? Anybody know how I can get around this situation? I want a total back up of my system before I install Mandrake 7.1! BTW- Can I upgrade form 6.0 to 7.1 with minimal impact on PHP PostgreSQL etc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2000 02:20:43 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Lad Gaal/MarconiMedical) Subject: Re: [newbie] TAR Issue "Lad. Gaal" wrote: I want to back up the hard drives on my unit to a SCSI 8mm tape (exabyte 8205) drive. For the life of me I can't figure out how to get the tar command to go more than one tape. [...] I've tried tar -cvf /dev/tape /. but when the tape fills it dies, so I tried tar -cvLf /dev/tape /. I just get a bunch of ASII across the monitor. Try this one : tar cMvf /dev/tape / This will create a multi-volume archive. But maybe if you compressed it (with the 'z' flag), it would take only one tape. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~! __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. I had this same problem and it took me FOREVER to find out how to fix it What I did was make sure that all the development libraries and kernel headres were installed. They should all be on your Mandrake CD. If you don't know what to look for, have no fear; the RPM's on the CD have VERY descriptive names. The ones with devel- in them should be development tools/libraries and the kernel headers should have the words 'Kernel-header' or something to this effect in their filenames. Hope This helped!! adam eubank
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, spooky wrote: hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. I had this same problem and it took me FOREVER to find out how to fix it What I did was make sure that all the development libraries and kernel headres were installed. They should all be on your Mandrake CD. If you don't know what to look for, have no fear; the RPM's on the CD have VERY descriptive names. RPMS dir on the CD 'rpm -qpil *.rpm 'whater dir you want the txt file in /RPMS.txt example:'cd' to the /RPMS dir on the CD then (I) type 'rpm -qpil *.rpm /home/tom/RPMS.txt ' *caution* this will create a 5 to 7 mb .txt file (takes a minute or 2), but it will include all the info and more that you see in Kpackage for every rpm on the CD. and you can use a txt editor to search ;) It will tho, show every one of 'em uninstalled ... 'cause they're RO on the CD ;) The ones with devel- in them should be development tools/libraries and the kernel headers should have the words 'Kernel-header' or something to this effect in their filenames. at MOU, http://www.mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html " Here comes a list of developement libraries which are most often used and should be installed on every workstation: " gives a list of all the packages you'll ever need to compile 99.9% of everything including kernels These packages are included in every Mdk version's CD's, ie, they _are_ on your CD I depend on always choosing the 'development' option during install. you'll get all the above and more ;-) -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. TELL me about it! I just did it for the first time about a week ago. It took me FOREVER to figure it out because MDK 7.02 didn't install the right development libs (or tools, for that matter) for me. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Excellent advice. If you have a slower connection (like mine, 56k), I'd look on the Mandrake CD first. I found out that everything that ./configure has grumped at me for not having so far I found on my CD; the RPM's have VERY descriptive names (THANK GOD : ))! Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. And, remember: if it doesn't work right and the docs don't help (which I've found they don't with errrors you might have during compilation), hit the lists or IRC. Oh, and another good thing that I've discovered: hook up with local (or, if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, not-so-local) LUGs. Read their sites and mailing lists. Almost everything that I read in the lists belonging to LUGs in my state is over my head, but hey: if you don't know it's out there you can't be inquisitive about it. : ) adam eubank
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
You should ALWAYS see if the package exists in RPM format FIRST... http://rpmfind.net If not then try compiling. Remember that if you are compiling a gz file, you'll need to have all the libraries that the package was originally compiled against. Often you'll also need the developement sources for the related libs and packages as well. The fact that your compiler is not working, indicates that you did not perform a "developement" installation when prompted. You'll have to go back and install the missing RPM's. Given that everyone has to compile a program at sometime or another, Developement should be the minimum install for Linux, in my book, in spite of the requirements. -JMS -Original Message- From: Edison Gica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. TELL me about it! I just did it for the first time about a week ago. It took me FOREVER to figure it out because MDK 7.02 didn't install the right development libs (or tools, for that matter) for me. http://www.mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html MUO has all kinds of tutorials and 'walk-thru's. This one will show you what you need and howto extract, compile and install most all source. There's also a section on .rpm's, but for a more extensive tutorial try http://www.rpmdp.org/rpmbook/node1.html On MUO's main page you can also download the whole site in one .tar.gz (~300k), updated monthly -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Excellent advice. If you have a slower connection (like mine, 56k), I'd look on the Mandrake CD first. I found out that everything that ./configure has grumped at me for not having so far I found on my CD; tthe RPM's have VERY descriptive names (THANK GOD : ))! Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. And, remember: if it doesn't work right and the docs don't help (which I've found they don't with errrors you might have during compilation), hit the lists or IRC. Oh, and another good thing that I've discovered: hook up with local (or, if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, not-so-local) LUGs. Read their sites and mailing lists. Almost everything that I read in the lists belonging to LUGs in my state is over my head, but hey: if you don't know it's out there you can't be inquisitive about it. : ) adam eubank
RE: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Have you installed the Kernel headers? -Original Message- Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Tar and .Gz
I am a REAL newbie. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 last night. I have a couple of questions. First, my system has 164Mb of RAM but Mandrake only reports 64. During the install I tried to over-ride this and entered the correct amount of RAM, but it still only reports 64Mb. How can I fix this, or do I need to worry about it? Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Thanks Fred
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:47:54 -0400, Fred Hamilton wrote: First, my system has 164Mb of RAM but Mandrake only reports 64. I got a nice answer a while back on this same issue - saved text follows: To check what Linux detected, use the command 'free'. The output will look like: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:127980 124964 3016 44460 15884 53136 -/+ buffers/cache: 55944 72036 Swap: 130404 2792 127612 The line you're interested in is the top left numeric cell. If that doesn't show roughly the same number, you've got a problem to fix. To get Linux to recognize all of your memory, insert a line reading: append="mem=128M" into /etc/lilo.conf. The "linux" section will then look something like this: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-4mdksmp label=linux root=/dev/hda3 append="mem=128M" read-only After editing /etc/lilo.conf, you'll need to rerun lilo to install the new boot information. This will run it: /sbin/lilo Reboot the machine and all should be well! Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On 13 Jun 00, at 21:47, Fred Hamilton wrote: correct amount of RAM, but it still only reports 64Mb. How can I fix this, or do I need to worry about it? At the LILO prompt specify the amount of RAM. BTW, how did you get 164MB RAM on your machine? 128+32=160. Maybe, you don't have 164MB RAM.Check. Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? Read the manual pages for tar. In a terminal, man tar, or type tar -- help. That will show you many options. A .tar.gz package is a gzipped version of the actual install files. I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? At the bash or what ever shell you are using, type tar -zvf full_package_name. Then your staroffice application will be untarred to a /opt directory. Go there and read the Readme files. IIRC, there were options for a network or a single user configuration. For help on installing staroffice, there maybe some help at www.mandrakeuser.org. Anyway, man tar and read everything. HTH === Sthitaprajna @mailandnews.com === Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something - Westley of "The Princess Bride"
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] tar help please
Romanator wrote: Thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, my printer ran out of ink. I'll have to write this out in long hand. Shake the ink cartridge.. Sometimes it comes back for a while From a cheapskate. MarkP
Re: [newbie] tar help please
Thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, my printer ran out of ink. I'll have to write this out in long hand. Cheers! Philip Gabbert wrote: Quite simple .. Tar is an app that gets many people. Got me to until I finally figured it out :) Say you want to tar and zip up /www/ .. All you have to do is cd to /. Then, under linux run: tar -zcvf all_archive.tgz www z - gzip compression c - create archive v - verbose f - archive name the '-' is optional, and is there for backwards compatablility. Simple as that. If you are on a Unix system (Solaris) or have an older version of tar you can run: tar xvf all_archive.tar www gzip all_archive.tar It will create a file called all_archive.tar.gz That's all folks :) -- philip Hi, I've tried looking at the tar man page, but still cant get any joy with tar. I have a directory called archive, with numerous subdirectories. I want to save all these files as a single file called all_archive, while preserving the dirctory structure and permissions, and then finally compress the whole thing. Can some one show me the correct command please Thanks Barry Eagles may soar, but weasel don't get sucked into jet engines begin:vcard n:#179293;Roman x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 note:(This is email is fueled by Penguin Power Only) fn:Roman - Registered Linux User #179293 end:vcard
[newbie] Tar help
Go to www.gnu.org/manual/tar/index.html You can download the manual which should answer any questions on the subject. mcoady
[newbie] tar help please
Hi, I've tried looking at the tar man page, but still cant get any joy with tar. I have a directory called archive, with numerous subdirectories. I want to save all these files as a single file called all_archive, while preserving the dirctory structure and permissions, and then finally compress the whole thing. Can some one show me the correct command please Thanks Barry
Re: [newbie] tar help please
Quite simple .. Tar is an app that gets many people. Got me to until I finally figured it out :) Say you want to tar and zip up /www/ .. All you have to do is cd to /. Then, under linux run: tar -zcvf all_archive.tgz www z - gzip compression c - create archive v - verbose f - archive name the '-' is optional, and is there for backwards compatablility. Simple as that. If you are on a Unix system (Solaris) or have an older version of tar you can run: tar xvf all_archive.tar www gzip all_archive.tar It will create a file called all_archive.tar.gz That's all folks :) -- philip Hi, I've tried looking at the tar man page, but still cant get any joy with tar. I have a directory called archive, with numerous subdirectories. I want to save all these files as a single file called all_archive, while preserving the dirctory structure and permissions, and then finally compress the whole thing. Can some one show me the correct command please Thanks Barry Eagles may soar, but weasel don't get sucked into jet engines
Re: [newbie] tar help please
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Barry Winch wrote: Hi, I've tried looking at the tar man page, but still cant get any joy with tar. I have a directory called archive, with numerous subdirectories. I want to save all these files as a single file called all_archive, while preserving the dirctory structure and permissions, and then finally compress the whole thing. Can some one show me the correct command please tar cvz /dir/all_archive /dir_to_backup The z in the parameters will immediately do the compressing for you Paul -- The ultimate proof of love is trust )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] tar command
Try tar -cvfM /dev/fd0 /home/user/[location of files]. The "f" has to be there to work. Michelle On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, you wrote: I'm trying to create a multiple volume backup onto floppy discs. Using konsole, when in root I change to the directory that contains the files I want to archive (I'd read you had to run tar from the directory where the files are). I then type in the following command: tar -cMv /dev/fd0 /home/user/[location of files] Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Is there another way/program to create multiple floppy archives? Any help would be appreciated. John
[newbie] tar files
What is the command line to extract and untar a file at once?
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_-+Richard Kim=-_ a écrit : how do i untar a file tar ?v?f filename.tar.gz I forgot the command can anyone tell me? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My new website made with apache http://compu.dyndns.org/ tar xf filename.tar.gz
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Just typing : modprobe es1371 in a console should make it work. HTH Flupke _-+Richard Kim=-_ a écrit : I have a Sound Blaster PCI128 speaker but cant get it to work on sndconfig. is there a driver I can use? if there is then tell me where to get it and how to install it or just give me some advice...anything will do... - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My new website made with apache http://compu.dyndns.org/
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Hello, I also have a Creative Labs SoundBlaster 128 PCI. I configured it with "sndconfig". First I also thought that it did not work, but then I realised that the volume settings were set very very faint. Using a mixer program I increased the sound volumes and voila - I had sound. You may want to try that, because the sound chips (Ensoniq ES/1370 or ES/1371) are usually well supported and recognized under Linux. DJ. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von flupke Gesendet am: Montag, 27. März 2000 09:56 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [newbie] tar Just typing : modprobe es1371 in a console should make it work. HTH Flupke _-+Richard Kim=-_ a écrit : I have a Sound Blaster PCI128 speaker but cant get it to work on sndconfig. is there a driver I can use? if there is then tell me where to get it and how to install it or just give me some advice...anything will do... - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My new website made with apache http://compu.dyndns.org/
Re: [newbie] tar
Il lun, 27 mar 2000, hai scritto: For making things easy download gxtar. It works well Just typing : modprobe es1371 in a console should make it work. HTH Flupke _-+Richard Kim=-_ a écrit : I have a Sound Blaster PCI128 speaker but cant get it to work on sndconfig. is there a driver I can use? if there is then tell me where to get it and how to install it or just give me some advice...anything will do... - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My new website made with apache http://compu.dyndns.org/
