Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
The last two messages on my machine are as follows: System Halted ( this is an approximation) Power Down ( This is exact) There is a slight pause between the two messages on my 486 style AMD 5x-133 system ( kind of old, but still works ). Ernie - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Can now report that it survies re-installs - so it probably is the known one which the other fella posted about - I have noticed from time to time it must involve the powering down end of things, because it's only after it says that that I get the scollies! All I get to see it system halted - then rapid scroll - but what is it that I should see at shutdown? Presumably some message about powering down? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Hey, Just for grins, try running fsck on your Linux partition. This is like win9x's scandisk, and can fix some weird problems. Still guessing, Ernie - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully, someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help. I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help this time, No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies, and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart - I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win - bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum! Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!) I have no errors at all of any import. What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature? Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error. It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see what's really going on. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Quit ragging on AMD/Cyrix, it this does happen on intel systems, the very first report as a matter of fact It's just most of those boards died in the initial mass of celeron overclockings. And the rest are mainly "screaming gamer rigs". The key point is the bios, and how it's implements the atx shutdown. it's not like it's the first time oems have tweaked hardware.. T'wasn't "ragging on AMD/Cyrix." I was "ragging on" the person/persons responsible for the *apparently* buggy atx APM drivers. :-) The implication *I* got from you, Axalon, was that it was a driver problem, not that it was a BIOS problem. Are you now stating that it's a BIOS problem and not an APM driver problem??? I can understand why it would happen to O/C'ed systems, but other than *intentionally* destabilized (overclocked) systems, have there been any reports of this happening on an Intel chipset or processor? Just wondering why it appears to be affecting PRIMARILY non-Intel chpsets and processors? (NOTE: I *prefer* non-intel processors!!!) John
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: Quit ragging on AMD/Cyrix, it this does happen on intel systems, the very first report as a matter of fact It's just most of those boards died in the initial mass of celeron overclockings. And the rest are mainly "screaming gamer rigs". The key point is the bios, and how it's implements the atx shutdown. it's not like it's the first time oems have tweaked hardware.. T'wasn't "ragging on AMD/Cyrix." I was "ragging on" the person/persons responsible for the *apparently* buggy atx APM drivers. :-) The implication *I* got from you, Axalon, was that it was a driver problem, not that it was a BIOS problem. Are you now stating that it's a BIOS problem and not an APM driver problem??? Bios apm implementation, and what the driver expects. (my board in particular doesn't function correctly in windows either) I can understand why it would happen to O/C'ed systems, but other than *intentionally* destabilized (overclocked) systems, have there been any reports of this happening on an Intel chipset or processor? Just wondering why it appears to be affecting PRIMARILY non-Intel chpsets and processors? (NOTE: I *prefer* non-intel processors!!!) John I didn't say the board as overclocked, i said most of those systems died Yes it was a slot 1 celeron or p2 i forget which, i'm sure it was a slot 1 with award bios though -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
Can now report that it survies re-installs - so it probably is the known one which the other fella posted about - I have noticed from time to time it must involve the powering down end of things, because it's only after it says that that I get the scollies! All I get to see it system halted - then rapid scroll - but what is it that I should see at shutdown? Presumably some message about powering down? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Hey, Just for grins, try running fsck on your Linux partition. This is like win9x's scandisk, and can fix some weird problems. Still guessing, Ernie - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully, someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help. I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help this time, No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies, and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart - I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win - bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum! Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!) I have no errors at all of any import. What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature? Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error. It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see what's really going on. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You, unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in the archives detailing the fix: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it was a problem with the mother board: $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax. So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's right! (which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!) Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your side first. ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Want reasonable priced Linux systems? Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
--
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You, unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in the archives detailing the fix: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it was a problem with the mother board: $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax. AFAIK, it's certain CHIPSETS that have the problem...typically non-intel chipsets, of course. :-) Also, mostly non-intel processors (i.e. AMD K6, etc.) To me, this sounds more like a problem with APM support in non-Intel boxes, rather than "cheap" motherboards. Of course, I don't blame Mandrake, as they probably didn't write the APM drivers themselves I just wish Linux weren't so damned Intel-centric in this matter! :-) John
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
I'm not convinced a past discussion confirms all that much myself - now if
this machine did not shut down right with the other OS I'd say you had a
point - because that would put it firmly in the category of flawed apm/acpi
machines that most of us that care already know all about. There are a lot
of machines which display the tendency not to work right in this dept.
However if in this instance this machine can perform this function, I am
lead to the conclusion that an os issueing the commands CAN make it happen
on this set of kit - so why not just issue the right commands - evidently
something else is happening here - otherwise it would not shutdown correctly
in BOTH cases.
Now whether there's a case for a further reduced hardware list to be
introduced making certain models of mainboard and their bios sets "not
supported under linux" is another matter entirely.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
And what, in your opinion, have they done wrong?
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Done that - it causes new problems all of it's own. Which prevent it getting
that far in the shut down process.
Want reasonable priced Linux systems?
Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
What? you trying to sell me something here? ;-)
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Sorry officer did not see your badge - where you get that from then? I like
the bit where it says judge! ;-P
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
I don't remember addressing this to you specifically - why the poor
attitude? - no matter
I have, and it's a broken fix under 6.1
Do you have anything empirical under 6.1 to offer?
Regards,
Ian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.zap.to/atelier
Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
the archives detailing the fix:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
was a problem with the mother board:
$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
problem just a few weeks ago.
$200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
implementation.
So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
shutdown flags).
Want reasonable priced Linux systems? Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
problems with it!
Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
first. ;-)
And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
system.
You know I just wrote you the stinking reply you deserved for a lot of
that - and then used
some intelligence, and trashed it (it was a belter too!) - fact is a lot of
what you say is based
on some incorrect assumptions - things about my system you could not
possibly know, actions which I might have taken which you do not know about.
Mostly though if you ever want to upset me, then get judgemental - that'll
do it every time - but it will get ugly at that point - you have been
warned! ;-)
A good number of the questions you posed seemed to be rhetoric or at least
show
great potential for it, but if you care to post those you really would have
liked
an answer to, then I'll naturally spend time on them.
Just remember, one OS involved does issue a shutdown, and the machine does.
For that reason there's only so far I CAN go go along with your theory.
Regards,
Ian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.zap.to/atelier
Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work You know I just wrote you the stinking reply you deserved for a lot of that - and then used some intelligence, and trashed it (it was a belter too!) OOPS! Seems fate has decicded it would get posted too - not sure how that happened, I DID bin it (twice!) all enquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Good job the very first draft never went - we don't need /another/ international incident on the planet! You'll notice that I've chosen to reply to this message instead of the prior two. Primarily, it's because you want to believe that I'm picking on you for some reason and that was not my intention in posting my previous reply. You initially asked about a problem that ocurred during shutdown. Between incorrect answers, Axalon and I both pointed you to the fact that there are incompatible BIOSes floating around that cause problems when attempting to use automatic powerdown on ATX motherboards. I have pointed you toward the linux-kernel archives for a discussion of the problem because the details weren't important to me at the time I read them on that list. If you've since solved the problem, I'm happy for you. However, please don't look this gift horse in the mouth. This mailing list and the people who populate it provide our help, advice and time simply for the joy of helping out other users. With the kind of bitch slaps you threw in the prior two messages, it makes me wonder just why many of us try helping. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully, someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help. I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help this time, Ernie bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I hope this helps. You can learn about the switches for the tar command in the man page. Read it using "man tar". You can also read about the mv command with "man mv". and mkdir with "man mkdir". To learn about the man command run "man man". There is a wealth of great info in the man pages. Thaat is where I have found 99% of what I need to know. They are not easy to understand all the time, but once you get used to them it is not so bad. Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another problem - this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long wait while nothing actually happens! On the plus side it does not actually crash ;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back. I noticed that the system has also now generated a core file, and I get the impression that this is not such good news! For now I have simply deleted it - because I have no idea how to use it usefully, and suspect that a reinstall is on the cards quite soon. It has not always done this, so I am fairly hopeful I can install it without the tendency to eject the warp core! Deleteing at least allows me to see how often it does this. - so far just once. I have noticed also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims the sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then says it can't acknowledge a page request of some kind, and after much meaningless (to me at least) output finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now this as far as I know it has always done, but I have not seen the core dump go into action before. Since it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the seg error actually matter anymore? After all it shows up after everyone else has gone home for the day! (ie after halted) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, you wrote: Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another problem - this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long wait while nothing actually happens! On the plus side it does not actually crash ;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back. How are you calling "tar"??? Be sure whatever command you're using includes the "f" switch (as in tar xvf) to tell it you're referring to a file, not a local console, etc. I have noticed also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims the sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then says it can't acknowledge a page request of some kind, and after much meaningless (to me at least) output finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now this as far as I know it has always done, but I have not seen the core dump go into action before.Since it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the seg error actually matter anymore? After all it shows up after everyone else has gone home for the day! (ie after halted) Don't sweat it. It's a buglet. There's a minor work-around for this. Go to the linux-mandrake "newbie" archives: http://mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ and search for "gpf on shutdown" or go directly to the following message URL: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
- Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully, someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help. I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help this time, No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies, and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart - I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win - bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum! Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!) I have no errors at all of any import. What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature? Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error. It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see what's really going on. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
Many thanks - It's always the way - I just answered another post on this, and here I am reading the solution! ;-) Just have to hope that what's written there is something I can understand! (and fix!) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, you wrote: Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another problem - this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long wait while nothing actually happens! On the plus side it does not actually crash ;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back. How are you calling "tar"??? Be sure whatever command you're using includes the "f" switch (as in tar xvf) to tell it you're referring to a file, not a local console, etc. I have noticed also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims the sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then says it can't acknowledge a page request of some kind, and after much meaningless (to me at least) output finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now this as far as I know it has always done, but I have not seen the core dump go into action before.Since it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the seg error actually matter anymore? After all it shows up after everyone else has gone home for the day! (ie after halted) Don't sweat it. It's a buglet. There's a minor work-around for this. Go to the linux-mandrake "newbie" archives: http://mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ and search for "gpf on shutdown" or go directly to the following message URL: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote: No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies, and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart - I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win - bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum! Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!) I have no errors at all of any import. What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature? Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error. It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see what's really going on. It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You, unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in the archives detailing the fix: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html John
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote: Many thanks - It's always the way - I just answered another post on this, and here I am reading the solution! ;-) Just have to hope that what's written there is something I can understand! (and fix!) Yeah...as I said in a message I *just* fired off (I really SHOULD cache outgoing messages before sending 'em G) it is apparently a problem with the APM drivers and certain motherboards/chipsets :-) John
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The command you will need is: tar -xzpvf [filename] where [filename] is the name of the file you want to extract. In a consloe screen (or window), run the above command, and it will extract the file into the current folder. I suggest that you create a folder under your personal folder ( the one you are in when you log on as a normal user) using the command: "mkdir [directory name]", then move the gzip file to it using the command: "mv [current path/filename.ext] [destination path/filename.ext]" where current path/filename.ext is the path to the current location of the file to be moved, as in /root/downloads/filename.ext, and destination path/filename.ext is the location to which you wish to move the file, as in /home/installer/filename.ext. Note: replace the above paths and filenames with the real ones. then extract the contents using the tar command discribed at the top. After you do all this, read the README file or the INSTALL file for instructions on installing the software you have just extracted, and follow the provided instructions. I hope this helps. You can learn about the switches for the tar command in the man page. Read it using "man tar". You can also read about the mv command with "man mv". and mkdir with "man mkdir". To learn about the man command run "man man". There is a wealth of great info in the man pages. Thaat is where I have found 99% of what I need to know. They are not easy to understand all the time, but once you get used to them it is not so bad. Ernie bay56 wrote: I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig. This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps. Ernie Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
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This stuff is in the archives as it's been covered _MANY_ times before, but i'm feeling generous (if a little lazy) so http://www.whitem.demon.co.uk/oldsite/sblive.htm Martin.
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I've tried searching the Archives before, and, well, it ain't to user friendly. If what you want isn't in the subject line, you're lost. Is there a better method out there? I dunno myself, never looked. Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This stuff is in the archives as it's been covered _MANY_ times before, but i'm feeling generous (if a little lazy) so http://www.whitem.demon.co.uk/oldsite/sblive.htm Martin. Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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Okay, Fair enough - i just looked through the archives myself and have to admit to the same thing. Couldn't find what i wanted - that said, turned out that what i wanted was in the newsgroup 'alt.os.linux.mandrake', not the newbie lists after all !! The link i gave you should help you setup the SBLive! if you are on Mandrake 6.0 or below. I'm just about to post another request to the list, and hope to have a solution for 6.1 up at that link sometime over the next day or so. Bear with me ;o) Martin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tymanthius Rune Speak Sent: 27 September 1999 13:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Archives Complaint: WAS: Re: [RE: [newbie] Ears don't work] I've tried searching the Archives before, and, well, it ain't to user friendly. If what you want isn't in the subject line, you're lost. Is there a better method out there? I dunno myself, never looked. Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This stuff is in the archives as it's been covered _MANY_ times before, but i'm feeling generous (if a little lazy) so http://www.whitem.demon.co.uk/oldsite/sblive.htm Martin. Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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Just you so far - and thanks for it! ;-) 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip where tar is a console command (which should already be included in mandrake?), -xvzf are switches, and fname is my file to decompress? I'll give it a try, and see if you post any twists to beware of later! ;-) I may know some about Windoze - and rather more about Amigas, but zero about linux! ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:50 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Ears don't work I'm doing a bit of catchup on the list right now, so i'm sure someone will have already answered, but just in case... 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip. Martin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bay56 Sent: 26 September 1999 22:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig. This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps. Ernie Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
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I may know some about Windoze - and rather more about Amigas, but zero about linux! ;-) Yeah, I'm not so diligent with the command line tar myself either. And I've got an A1200 not getting as much attention heh. If you got KDE running, it's got an 'archiver' program that almost works like Dopus Magellan on the Amiga. A nice mouse driven archiver for tar. It's the only one I use for Linux compression work. Darcy.
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- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Ianclick on your home directory icon on the deskyop or in the Panel area at the bottom of the desktop. Navigate to where you put the file (if you'd downloaded it with Netscape in Linux it would already be in the directory where the icon opened the window). Now right click on the Many thanks - I suspect this is under KDE (since it looks like something I don't readily understand - I'm using gnome mostly) I will try this under KDE though - it's going to come in handy some time or other, and sooner rather than later I'd guess! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
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bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Ianclick on your home directory icon on the deskyop or in the Panel area at the bottom of the desktop. Navigate to where you put the file (if you'd downloaded it with Netscape in Linux it would already be in the directory where the icon opened the window). Now right click on the Many thanks - I suspect this is under KDE (since it looks like something I don't readily understand - I'm using gnome mostly) I will try this under KDE though - it's going to come in handy some time or other, and sooner rather than later I'd guess! Regards, Ian Ianwhoops! Yes, it is referring to KDE. Sorry, I assumed you were using the Mandrake/KDE default. Sorry. Alan
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- Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I hope this helps. You can learn about the switches for the tar command in the man page. Read it using "man tar". You can also read about the mv command with "man mv". and mkdir with "man mkdir". To learn about the man command run "man man". There is a wealth of great info in the man pages. Thaat is where I have found 99% of what I need to know. They are not easy to understand all the time, but once you get used to them it is not so bad. Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another problem - this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long wait while nothing actually happens! On the plus side it does not actually crash ;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back. I noticed that the system has also now generated a core file, and I get the impression that this is not such good news! For now I have simply deleted it - because I have no idea how to use it usefully, and suspect that a reinstall is on the cards quite soon. It has not always done this, so I am fairly hopeful I can install it without the tendency to eject the warp core! Deleteing at least allows me to see how often it does this. - so far just once. I have noticed also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims the sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then says it can't acknowledge a page request of some kind, and after much meaningless (to me at least) output finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now this as far as I know it has always done, but I have not seen the core dump go into action before. Since it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the seg error actually matter anymore? After all it shows up after everyone else has gone home for the day! (ie after halted) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
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- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Ianwhoops! Yes, it is referring to KDE. Sorry, I assumed you were using the Mandrake/KDE default. Sorry. Thank god I guessed right - it took a lot to come up with even one guess! ;-) Mind you I am no further forward with the actual file content thanks to Creative - see sblive posts elsewhere! ;-) Thanks for the tip! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
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- Original Message - From: Darcy Emily Baston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I may know some about Windoze - and rather more about Amigas, but zero about linux! ;-) Yeah, I'm not so diligent with the command line tar myself either. Not exactly fun is it! ;-) And I've got an A1200 not getting as much attention heh. Hmmm. I have a plan for mine - it's going onto the serial as another terminal! Loads of linux bsd stuff for amigas - I am SO glad I kept her when nearly everyone I know sold theirs - I got my A1200 towered too - this is going to be just fine in this happy set of circumstances! Not sure about X client yet, but that might be do-able too! We shall see... If you got KDE running, it's got an 'archiver' program that almost works like Dopus Magellan on the Amiga. A nice mouse driven archiver for tar. It's the only one I use for Linux compression work. Yup, found it now - I wish I'd known it had to be KDE in the first place! ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
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I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig. This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps. Ernie Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
RE: [newbie] Ears don't work
I'm doing a bit of catchup on the list right now, so i'm sure someone will have already answered, but just in case... 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip. Martin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bay56 Sent: 26 September 1999 22:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig. This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps. Ernie Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
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[snip] Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Don't bother. If i caught the thread correctly, you're trying to get an SBLive! up and running and the best it will do (under 6.1) is recognise it and tell you it's not supported yet. If you're using 6.1 AFAIK, even using the module from Creative won't get it running (come on Creative pull your finger out!). If you're using 6.0 it will work, but as Axalon says there's plenty of instructions in the mailing list archive for getting it going. If for some reason you can't get to the archives or you're still stuck, mail me directly and i'll point you in the right direction, but try first. Martin.
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bay56 wrote: I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian Ianclick on your home directory icon on the deskyop or in the Panel area at the bottom of the desktop. Navigate to where you put the file (if you'd downloaded it with Netscape in Linux it would already be in the directory where the icon opened the window). Now right click on the icon representing the sblive-0.2btar.gz file. Choose Archiver. A window showing the contents of the file will open. Click on the Edit drop-down menu in that window and choose Extract. Go back to the file manager window and right-click the background and choose New View. Go to the new window that opens, the contents of the sblive-0.2btar.gz will be in a new sub directory called package. Alan
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm doing a bit of catchup on the list right now, so i'm sure someone will have already answered, but just in case... 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip. Martin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bay56 Sent: 26 September 1999 22:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux, and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination. What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even attempt what you outlined - but want to try it. I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days when I can lay hands on it. Can you suggest an approach please? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/ - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window. Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig. This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps. Ernie Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas Thank you for all the help. My problem has not been opening the file but runnig the self install insside the tared file. I have found that because EZ Drive is controlling my HD so my Bios can see it's real size. The drive registers as a "tmp/dev/hda1" "tmp/dev/hda2" etc. The only way around this is to buy a HD that it is compatable with. Im not ready for that. Can any one help me with the detailed instruction on manuel install. When I go by their instructions I get somany problems my only alternative is to reinstall. Thank you
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might try the following how-to http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
possiably the following might help? ftp://ftp.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/6.0/RPMS/esound-0.2.12-4mdk.i586.rpm note copy full address as it will be wordwraped Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas
Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Thomas Peter wrote: I am a total newbie. I've had a computer for 1 1/2 years. I never worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing. I have everything running except my sound card. I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I went to their download site and downloaded the driver. It has two ways to execute it, automatic and manuel. When I try to use its self install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only". I thought that was what my hard drive was. I even tried to install it the manul way but had no luck at that either. Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have any suggestions. Thomas See the archive list for really really in depth step by step for setting up your sblive. The error your getting is because you need to copy the files out of the tarball, go up one directory, tab to the other window change to your ~/tmp directory, tab back to the other window, highlight the directory name and punch F5 and it'll extract it into the other dir. No do what ever yo were trying todo inside the tarball. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
