Re: [newbie] kernel with support for sata raid

2005-04-06 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 11:49, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 i have a Fujitsu-siemens server (primergy Econel 50) with a Intel
 fw82801fr chipset, that supports some raid settings.
 I have seen on a debian install that it worked with a 3ware driver, but
 couldn't get it to work with this on mandrake.
 Is there a mandrake linux kernel that i can download with support for
 this chipset?

 regards Isak

Do you mean the 3w-9xxx driver?
It is in the standard 2.6.8-12mdk kernel for Mandrake 10.1
If it is not loading try putting
3x-9xxx in the file /etc/modprobe.preload

Or perhaps you could try the 3w- driver. That is in the kernel too.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-18 Thread JR
On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:59 pm, Tom wrote:
 OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one
 processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special
 requirements.
snip 

Tom,

Thanks a lot. I have a fairly standard laptop setup, so I think the standard 
kernel you linked will be fine.
 Holler back if you want to compile, it's really fairly simple.
If it goes belly up, I will take you up on your offer!

Thanks again,

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-18 Thread JR
After installing the mandrake package for kernel 2.6.11, the only problem 
seems to be the network. I get this error:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] unholy]# service network start
Setting network parameters: [  OK  ]
Bringing up loopback interface: [  OK  ]
Bringing up interface eth1:  driverloader device eth1 does not seem to be 
present, delaying initialization.
[FAILED]


driverloader is a service that loads the drivers for my pcmcia network card. I 
installed it when I was using the old kernel so maybe the new kernel needs to 
be made aware of it's presence. But I dont know how to do that.

Thanks for listening,

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-18 Thread Tom
JR wrote:
On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:59 pm, Tom wrote:
   OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one
processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special
requirements.
snip 

Tom,
Thanks a lot. I have a fairly standard laptop setup, so I think the standard 
kernel you linked will be fine.
   Well, I had thought I implied that your chances of success with 
a 2.6.11 kernel on older Mandrake versions were questionable. That 
it would be better to wait a bit an install 10.2 if you need a 
2.6.11 kernel. OTOH, if you install the kernel with -ivh, it will go 
in along side your current kernel, which you then can always fall 
back to if the new kernel fails.

   Laptop, adds in another question mark.  Many reports on cooker 
that 2.6.11 fails on some laptops. Mostly an i686/i586 issue.  The 
only work around right now AFAIK is to try the i586 specific kernel.
(I've never had a laptop)

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-i586-up-1GB-2.6.11.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
In explanation; while Mandrake is still primarily an i586 
architecture distro, many things like glibc and the 'normal' kernel 
are compiled for 1686 to take advantage of that optimization and 686 
specific cpu flags.  Many laptop, C(yrix)-3 processors, and some 
others are not true i686 systems. C-3's aren't even true i586.  The 
10.2 installer has been modified to blacklist these systems an 
install the i586 kernel.  'Course if you install a 10.2 kernel on an 
older Mdk version, this protection is not afforded.

 Type 'arch' in a console and press Enter, it'll probly 
return 'i686'.  That only means that the cpu/cache reports itself as 
686 architecture the system might not really be i686.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-17 Thread SnapafunFrank
Smiley wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 +
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that
I can use that  will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I
have to do this manually by  compiling the new kernel ?
   

If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or
unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old
rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway,
the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be
installed unless you decide to do.
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And don't forget to include the kernel-source ~ you will need it for the 
driver .

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-17 Thread Tony
Thanks for the info, urpmi looks cool, will get playing with it straight away.

Tony.

On Thursday 17 March 2005 12:54 am, you wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 +

 Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that
  I can use that  will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I
  have to do this manually by  compiling the new kernel ?

 If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or
 unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old
 rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway,
 the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be
 installed unless you decide to do.


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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-17 Thread JR
  If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or
  unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway

Could anyone tell me where I can find such a repository? I've followed the 
kernel upgrade / install instructions at 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi#Installing_a_new_kernel
but the 'updates' repository doesnt have anything newer than 2.6.8. I'd like 
2.6.10 / 2.6.11

Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-17 Thread Tom
JR wrote:
If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or
unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway

Could anyone tell me where I can find such a repository? I've followed the 
kernel upgrade / install instructions at 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi#Installing_a_new_kernel
but the 'updates' repository doesnt have anything newer than 2.6.8. I'd like 
2.6.10 / 2.6.11

Cheers,
Ja
You could get 2.6.11-2mdk from
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-2.6.11.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
   (18MB)
You must install it with (as root, in a console, in the 
directory the kernel rpm is in) 'rpm -ivh kern  (just hit the Tab 
key to auto-complete the rest of the package name).  The important 
bit being to _i_nstall (-ivh), rather than U_pgrade (-Uvh) the 
kernel. Since it's cooker, if there's any problem, you can always 
just re-boot an run your existing kernel.

   OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one 
processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special 
requirements. In any of those cases, or if you just wanna compile 
from source to better ensure the kernel's compatibility with your 
older Mandrake version. You'll need the source, install with 'rpm 
-Uvh kern Tab
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-2mdk.i586.rpm
   (45MB)

   Holler back if you want to compile, it's really fairly simple. 
OTOH, beware that due to Linus/OSDL security an other enhancements, 
the newest kernels will inhibit many actions that now seem 
transparent to the user, and require changes in many GUI's (CD 
burning for example).  Many processes are handled differently, an to 
tell the truth, I have no idea what impact that will have using a 
2.6.11-mdk on past Mandrake versions.

Sufficiently discouraged? Depends on how adventurous you are ;)
Or you can wait just a bit. Cooker 10.2 RC2 iso's should be 
available within a week or so
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/iso/i586
and you could install 10.2 RC2 an keep it upgraded with cooker 
media sources until it becomes 10.2 Community.  A little longer till 
it becomes 10.2 Official.

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compile a kernel. Specially if you don't know how to patch it about 
2 or 300 times to get it equivalent with Mandrake.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.

2005-03-16 Thread Smiley
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 +
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that
 I can use that  will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I
 have to do this manually by  compiling the new kernel ?

If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or
unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old
rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway,
the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be
installed unless you decide to do.
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-02 Thread SnapafunFrank
Dennis Myers wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:52 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 

On February 28, 2005 22:13, Dennis Myers wrote:
   

Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the
-24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real
reason in the logs. This is the installer log print
 

...
I've gotten the 6629 NVidia driver working fine with the -24 kernel with a
GeForce FX 5200 board on my new computer.
And I had the hand-patched 6111 NVidia driver (see list archives for
details) working with the -12 kernel and a TNT 64 board on my old computer.
But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either
the hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one
installs fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl
program results in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to
resolve this, just went back to the nv driver.
Sorry I can't be more help.
   

Huh, now the -12 kernel and/or 6111 driver will not work either. Same error 
message. I have been all over the internet looking for answers and tried them 
all. Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but no soap. Guess it's time to clean 
house and try again. I have really no sense when it comes to  installing  
kernels side by side.  Up Up and away.
 

Just a thought. I have 6111 installed OK but it is against a 2.6.~ 
kernel and I understood at the time that that is what was required for 
the OpenGL stuff to work. As I said, just a thought.

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RE: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-02 Thread Hugh Dixon



-Original Message-
From:   SnapafunFrank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wed 02-Mar-05 21:32
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:52 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
  

On February 28, 2005 22:13, Dennis Myers wrote:


Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the
-24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real
reason in the logs. This is the installer log print
  

...

I've gotten the 6629 NVidia driver working fine with the -24 kernel with a
GeForce FX 5200 board on my new computer.

And I had the hand-patched 6111 NVidia driver (see list archives for
details) working with the -12 kernel and a TNT 64 board on my old computer.

But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either
the hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one
installs fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl
program results in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to
resolve this, just went back to the nv driver.

Sorry I can't be more help.


Huh, now the -12 kernel and/or 6111 driver will not work either. Same error 
message. I have been all over the internet looking for answers and tried them 
all. Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but no soap. Guess it's time to clean 
house and try again. I have really no sense when it comes to  installing  
kernels side by side.  Up Up and away.
  

Just a thought. I have 6111 installed OK but it is against a 2.6.~ 
kernel and I understood at the time that that is what was required for 
the OpenGL stuff to work. As I said, just a thought.

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I am using the 6111 driver (FX 5700 based, ASUS graphics card) on a custom 
2.6.8.1-24 kernel.  I cannot remember if I installed it on the standard mdk 
kernel (I suspect not).  I use it with 2 screens.  It works fine, except I have 
occasional problems where it will spit the dummy on my XF86Config file, and I 
have to go back to the original, and reset the twin view options in the config 
file. (?Device in use? error)
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:45 pm, RickSisler wrote:
 Dennis Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the
  -24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real
  reason in the logs.   Does anyone know of a solution? TIA
snip
 Hi Dennis,
 I had to add these with the 6629 driver,
 --kernel-name=2.6.8.1-24mdk
 --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-24mdk
 If this helps and it builds, as smiley suggests, make sure the
 nvidia is in your /etc/modprobe.preload config file.
 the club CD's or DVD. May help someday.

Thanks, to Rick,  the  addition of --kernel-name=** did the trick. I was 
adding --kernel-source-path but not getting anywhere. Now I have the NVIDIA 
logo pop up and ut2003 plays once again. Thanks for the key and to all who 
gave input.  Life is good, just don't weaken.
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Gordon
On March 1, 2005 12:13 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 - Kernel source path: '/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-24mdk'
 - Performing CC test with CC=cc.
 ERROR: If you are using a Linux 2.4 kernel, please make sure
you either have configured kernel sources matching your
kernel or the correct set of kernel headers installed
on your system.

If you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure
you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel
installed on your system. If you specified a separate
output directory using either the KBUILD_OUTPUT or
the O KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this
directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with
the appropriate nvidia-installer command line option.
 ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file
'/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find
 suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available
 on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

Strange it worked perfectly here kernel smp and nvidia 6629,  the only 
thing i can think of is did you use the kernel-source-stripped or the 
full source ?  Here i used the full source.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread Smiley
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 08:51:07 -0500
Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strange it worked perfectly here kernel smp and nvidia 6629,  the only 
 thing i can think of is did you use the kernel-source-stripped or the 
 full source ?  Here i used the full source.

Also look if in /etc/modprobe.preload you have nvidia; if you
don't (or you have nvidia-agp) try add it and save (you
must be root) then reboot.
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On February 28, 2005 22:13, Dennis Myers wrote:
 Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the
 -24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real
 reason in the logs. This is the installer log print
...

I've gotten the 6629 NVidia driver working fine with the -24 kernel with a 
GeForce FX 5200 board on my new computer.

And I had the hand-patched 6111 NVidia driver (see list archives for details) 
working with the -12 kernel and a TNT 64 board on my old computer.

But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either the 
hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one installs 
fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl program results 
in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to resolve this, 
just went back to the nv driver.

Sorry I can't be more help.

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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread Smiley
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:52:18 -0700
Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either the 
 hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one installs 
 fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl program results 
 in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to resolve this, 
 just went back to the nv driver.

It seems same problem I had; as I said in a recent post, you can verify if in 
/etc/modprobe.preload you have nvidia...
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread RickSisler
Dennis Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the -24 
 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real reason 
 in the logs. This is the installer log print
 option status:
[...]

   force tls   : (not specified)
   force compat32 tls  : (not specified)
   X install prefix: /usr/X11R6
   OpenGL install prefix   : /usr
   compat32 install prefix : (not specified)
   installer install prefix: /usr
   utility install prefix  : /usr
   kernel name : (not specified)
   kernel include path : (not specified)
   kernel source path  : (not specified)
   kernel output path  : (not specified)
   kernel install path : (not specified)
   proc mount point: /proc
   ui  : (not specified)
   tmpdir  : /root/tmp
   ftp mirror  : ftp://download.nvidia.com
   RPM file list   : (not specified)
[...]

 - Kernel source path: '/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-24mdk'
 - Performing CC test with CC=cc.
 ERROR: If you are using a Linux 2.4 kernel, please make sure
you either have configured kernel sources matching your
kernel or the correct set of kernel headers installed
on your system.

If you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure
you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel
installed on your system. If you specified a separate
output directory using either the KBUILD_OUTPUT or
the O KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this
directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with
the appropriate nvidia-installer command line option.
 ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file
'/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find suggestions
on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux
driver download page at www.nvidia.com.
 
 
 Does anyone know of a solution? TIA
Hi Dennis,
I had to add these with the 6629 driver, 
--kernel-name=2.6.8.1-24mdk 
--kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-24mdk
If this helps and it builds, as smiley suggests, make sure the 
nvidia is in your /etc/modprobe.preload config file.

It would build but I had trouble with the 6629, same as Ron, 
glxinfo and glxgears would run for root, but no users, new or old,
it would give segmentation faults. (strace showed the perms were 
/proc related, mmx and sse, -tls some type of threading issues, 
beyond my limited understanding. I posted this to the list, no replys,
so I kept looking for answers) 

Ron mentioned the patched 6111 driver, I found this link on 
www.nvnews.net 
look for zander's reply from nvidia corp. 
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43896highlight=kernel+2.6.8
I reverted back to 6111 and downloaded the patch for this nvidia driver. 
Extracted the sources, patched them, added the installer parameters
and it successfully compiled. 

My hardware is a GeForceFX 5200 with a nForce2 chipset and
All is working now  .. the only difference is, 
While not noticable, its 100-150 FPS slower 8( than the 
-12mdk kernel.

HTH somehow ..

p.s. also found this info on the club forum, 
[10.1/10.2+] dkms : a new way to install 3rd party drivers
http://forum.mandrakeclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=32376
but don't know much about it. Dkms may make this easier when 
upgrading kernels, and it was used for 10.1 and -12mdk from 
the club CD's or DVD. May help someday.
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work

2005-03-01 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:52 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On February 28, 2005 22:13, Dennis Myers wrote:
  Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the
  -24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real
  reason in the logs. This is the installer log print

 ...

 I've gotten the 6629 NVidia driver working fine with the -24 kernel with a
 GeForce FX 5200 board on my new computer.

 And I had the hand-patched 6111 NVidia driver (see list archives for
 details) working with the -12 kernel and a TNT 64 board on my old computer.

 But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either
 the hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one
 installs fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl
 program results in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to
 resolve this, just went back to the nv driver.

 Sorry I can't be more help.
Huh, now the -12 kernel and/or 6111 driver will not work either. Same error 
message. I have been all over the internet looking for answers and tried them 
all. Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but no soap. Guess it's time to clean 
house and try again. I have really no sense when it comes to  installing  
kernels side by side.  Up Up and away.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source for 9.2??

2004-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
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Hash: SHA1

On Tuesday 28 Dec 2004 15:59, cervixcouch wrote:
 I feel kinda doofy asking this, but where do I find the kernel source from
 the installation CDs?  I'm trying to install software that needs to find
 it in /usr/src/linux.

 I've looked at all three CDs but haven't seen anything that appears to be
 the source for my kernel (2.4.22.10mdk).  When I went into MCC and did a
 search for 'kernel' in the package manager, I got a higher kernel version
 than the one I have.

The update site carries the latest version.  Kernel updates come generally 
because of security problems, so you should get the latest kernel anyway.  
Don't attempt to 'upgrade' the kernel, just install the new one.  An 
additional stanza will be added to lilo.conf and you will be able to select 
either kernel from lilo, if you do have problems (which is not very likely).  
Then get the matching source.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source for 9.2??

2004-12-28 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 9:59 am, cervixcouch wrote:
 I feel kinda doofy asking this, but where do I find the kernel source from
 the installation CDs?  I'm trying to install software that needs to find
 it in /usr/src/linux.

 I've looked at all three CDs but haven't seen anything that appears to be
 the source for my kernel (2.4.22.10mdk).  When I went into MCC and did a
 search for 'kernel' in the package manager, I got a higher kernel version
 than the one I have.

 What is the kernel src called on the disks?  Is it called something
 obscure, like bimbos-on-juice.2.4.22.10mdk, and I'm just too braindead
 to catch it???

 Yeah, I know I can download it from various places online, but I assumed
 it would be installable from the installation CDs, like it was in 7.2.

Actually, 9.2 didn't include the kernel source on the CD's (for whatever 
reason). Your only option is to download it from the web...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel SOurce

2004-11-17 Thread mikkel
 Hello,



 I am trying to work with version 9.1 with respect to device driver
 development and I chose to install kernel source upon installation but I
 cannot find ANY .c file. The headers are there, but none of the .c's.



 When I searched I was logged in as root user, searching from the /
 directory and I issued the following command:

 Find -name swapfile.c -mount



 This is the same for all .c files.



 Can anyone enlighten me as to where the source code is at?



 Thanks.


Try /usr/src/linux - it should be a symlink to the real source directory
tree in /usr/src.  The actualy .c files are spread amoung different
subdirectories branching from there.  The drivers are fairly well devided
up by type, with some drivers having their own subdirectory...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel SOurce

2004-11-17 Thread Thomas Wilkowski
Hi,
It should be in /usr/src/linux which is linked to
/usr/src/name_of_kernel-source.mkd


tsw


--- Manaxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
  
 
 I am trying to work with version 9.1 with respect to
 device driver
 development and I chose to install kernel source
 upon installation but I
 cannot find ANY .c file. The headers are there, but
 none of the .c's.
 
  
 
 When I searched I was logged in as root user,
 searching from the /
 directory and I issued the following command:
 
 Find -name swapfile.c -mount
 
  
 
 This is the same for all .c files. 
 
  
 
 Can anyone enlighten me as to where the source code
 is at?
 
  
 
 Thanks.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 




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RE: [newbie] Kernel SOurce

2004-11-17 Thread Manaxus
Hi guys, thanks for the responses.

I checked in /usr/src/linux before I wrote to the list and there were no
symlinks and there were no /usr/src/name_of_kernel-source.mdk either. 

I went back to my install of 10.0 and verified that it should be there
so I am assuming that even though I selected to install kernel sources,
it didn't. 

Thanks anyway. 

-Artemis

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Hi,
It should be in /usr/src/linux which is linked to
/usr/src/name_of_kernel-source.mkd


tsw


--- Manaxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
  
 
 I am trying to work with version 9.1 with respect to
 device driver
 development and I chose to install kernel source
 upon installation but I
 cannot find ANY .c file. The headers are there, but
 none of the .c's.
 
  
 
 When I searched I was logged in as root user,
 searching from the /
 directory and I issued the following command:
 
 Find -name swapfile.c -mount
 
  
 
 This is the same for all .c files. 
 
  
 
 Can anyone enlighten me as to where the source code
 is at?
 
  
 
 Thanks.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 




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Re: [newbie] Kernel update source/binary mismatch

2004-10-25 Thread Stew Benedict

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:

 # urpmi kernel
 Everything already installed
 
 Finally, I did the following:
 
 # urpmi kernel-2.6.3.19
 

  ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/
 10.0/RPMS/./kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm ...
 
 And now it's downloading the new kernel binary! What's up with that?
 auto-select doesn't work with kernel binaries, but it does with kernel
 source? Shouldn't the two always be kept in sync? And why doesn't urpmi

most times, yes, one would want them in sync if your intent is to build 
modules for your binary kernel

 kernel find the latest version of the kernel? Why should I have to specify
 which version I want? Very strange.
 

urpmi --fuzzy kernel will return a list, if urpmi kernel doesn't

All binary kernel packages have unique names, so you can have more than 
one installed at a time. (Can be handy if your new kernel won't boot your 
system for some reason).

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Re: [newbie] kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm versus kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm?

2004-10-21 Thread Sevatio

Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 08:57 pm, Sevatio wrote:
What's the difference between kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm and
kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm?  Could you make one with the other?
Thanks,
Sevatio

Hi Sevatio. The kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm file is the one you want for building 
other files which depend on the kernel header files - that's the source code 
that was actually used to build the kernel, in a ready to install module. 
What you do with that source is pretty much up to you.

The kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm file is used to actually build the RPM's which make 
up the kernels for your system PLUS the kernel-source RPM. When you rebuild 
it using rpmbuild, it will generate a regular kernel, an SMP kernel, an 
enterprise kernel, a kernel capable of handling memory up to 4 gigs, and the 
RPM file for the kernel-source as well. So, for the sake of simplicity, you 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-20 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 19, 2004 08:54 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 Im beginning to think its a kernel or kernel source problem at this
 point but im going to try this on another computer,  a p3 800 with a
 older nvidia card just to see what happens as soon as I have some
 time. Will let you all know how it goes.


Ok after some googling I found these instructions.
For kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp you need the stripped kernel source, don't 
do anything to it.  This is an nvidia installer problem.
Now in a term as root run the installer like this 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --x
This will extract the installer files into a directory.
Now with your favorite editor go to /usr/src/nv.c
In this file go to line 3697 and change PM_SAVE_STATE to PM_SUSPEND_MEM
Then get into run level 3 and go to the directory where the nvidia 
installer was extracted and run as root ./nvidia-installer 
--kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-10mdk
This will install the drivers.
Now this is important,  before you get back into run level 5 edit the 
file /etc/modprobe.preload and add nvidia on a line by itself, save 
the file then boot back into run level 5 and enjoy.

Hope this can help someone.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-20 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 20, 2004 08:58 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
 This will install the drivers.
 Now this is important,  before you get back into run level 5 edit the
 file /etc/modprobe.preload and add nvidia on a line by itself, save
 the file then boot back into run level 5 and enjoy.

 Hope this can help someone.

PS dont forget to edit the xf86config file as per the nvidia 
instructions.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel-Source for 2.4.x on 10.1ce?

2004-10-20 Thread Sevatio
I found it.  It's in Cooker's Main rpms.
Sevatio
Sevatio wrote:
Where would you find the Kernel-source-2.4.x rpm for 10.1ce?
thanks
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Re: [newbie] kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm versus kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm?

2004-10-20 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 08:57 pm, Sevatio wrote:
 What's the difference between kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm and
 kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm?  Could you make one with the other?

 Thanks,
 Sevatio

Hi Sevatio. The kernel-source-2.x.x.rpm file is the one you want for building 
other files which depend on the kernel header files - that's the source code 
that was actually used to build the kernel, in a ready to install module. 
What you do with that source is pretty much up to you.

The kernel-2.x.x.src.rpm file is used to actually build the RPM's which make 
up the kernels for your system PLUS the kernel-source RPM. When you rebuild 
it using rpmbuild, it will generate a regular kernel, an SMP kernel, an 
enterprise kernel, a kernel capable of handling memory up to 4 gigs, and the 
RPM file for the kernel-source as well. So, for the sake of simplicity, you 
want the kernel-source.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-19 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 18, 2004 04:54 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On Monday 18 October 2004 03:32 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
  snip
 
  At least in 10.0 OE AFAIK kernel-source-stripped was the rpm you
  need for building external modules.
 

Well,  so far I have tried both the stripped and the regular 
kernel-source and both have produced the same results,,  with both I am 
at least able to install the nvidia 5336 version of the driver but x 
wont start complaining that it cant find any screens.  I have tried 
Randall's approach with three versions of the installer but each time 
it will not rebuild the custom installer.
So here is what I'm running once again.  Mandrake 10.1 Community with 
kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp which is running real nice.  Video is a asus 
V9570 TD FX 5700 256mb ddr.
I have tried to install the drivers under single processor kernel as 
well with the same results.
Im beginning to think its a kernel or kernel source problem at this 
point but im going to try this on another computer,  a p3 800 with a 
older nvidia card just to see what happens as soon as I have some time.
Will let you all know how it goes.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Sunday 17 October 2004 10:30 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 Ok I did chmod which alowed me to execute the file but now I get this
 error.
 unable to build the nvidia kernel module interface, then
 unable to add a precompiled kernel interface for the running kernel
 BTW I have tryed this in smp and single kernel just to check the errors
 and they were both the same.  I have also tryed the nvidia 5336
 installer which complains about not finding a matching source for the
 kernel.

Morning Dan. Sorry for the late reply - but Monday mornings come really early 
for me, so I've got to get a little rest before coming to the office ;-)

OK, do me a favor. Please post the output from the next couple of commands 
when you have time:

$ rpm -qa | grep kernel

This should list off the kernel packages you have installed...

$ uname -r

This will list the kernel version you are currently using.

Then, how about also posting the contents of /var/log/nvidia-installer.log as 
well. This might give us more information than what the installer is giving 
you (it tends to be a little terse when giving out info, but the log file 
helps you figure out what's actually going wrong).

This should help us find something that might be causing the problem.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 08:52 am, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:

 Morning Dan. Sorry for the late reply - but Monday mornings come
 really early for me, so I've got to get a little rest before coming
 to the office ;-)

 OK, do me a favor. Please post the output from the next couple of
 commands when you have time:

 $ rpm -qa | grep kernel

 This should list off the kernel packages you have installed...

 $ uname -r

 This will list the kernel version you are currently using.

 Then, how about also posting the contents of
 /var/log/nvidia-installer.log as well. This might give us more
 information than what the installer is giving you (it tends to be a
 little terse when giving out info, but the log file helps you figure
 out what's actually going wrong).

 This should help us find something that might be causing the problem.

No problem Randall,  well I was waiting i did a fresh install and 
installed kernel source which I think may be the problem.  However 
before making any changes to anything i went ahead and tryed to run the 
installer in the normal way.  6111 and 6106 both would not install but 
5336 installed without any complants.  When I edited the x config file 
and booted back into run level 5 it just puts me into a text login and 
does not show any errors.  Weird huh ?
Here is the output of kernel and uname

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-10mdk
kernel-smp-2.6.8.1.10mdk-1-1mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ uname -r
2.6.8.1-10mdksmp

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 11:06 am, Dan Gordon wrote:

 No problem Randall,  well I was waiting i did a fresh install and
 installed kernel source which I think may be the problem.  However
 before making any changes to anything i went ahead and tryed to run
 the installer in the normal way.  6111 and 6106 both would not
 install but 5336 installed without any complants.  When I edited the
 x config file and booted back into run level 5 it just puts me into a
 text login and does not show any errors.  Weird huh ?
 Here is the output of kernel and uname

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel
 kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-10mdk
 kernel-smp-2.6.8.1.10mdk-1-1mdk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ uname -r
 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp


And this is the last bit of xorg.log

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module vgahw
(II) LoadModule: vgahw
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE000
(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFD00
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: nvidia
(II) UnloadModule: vgahw
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
 at http://wiki.X.Org

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RE: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Randall Hobbs
Hi Dan. When you reinstalled the source, did you prep it? If not, that might
cause you some problems. I'm sorta' throwing together a tute page for
this, so if you want me to send it to you let me know and I'll send you the
link (it's at a temporary location right now, but will be made publicly
available once I get time to set the new domain up and get the pages moved
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel source


On Monday 18 October 2004 11:06 am, Dan Gordon wrote:

 No problem Randall,  well I was waiting i did a fresh install and
 installed kernel source which I think may be the problem.  However
 before making any changes to anything i went ahead and tryed to run
 the installer in the normal way.  6111 and 6106 both would not
 install but 5336 installed without any complants.  When I edited the
 x config file and booted back into run level 5 it just puts me into a
 text login and does not show any errors.  Weird huh ?
 Here is the output of kernel and uname

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel
 kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-10mdk
 kernel-smp-2.6.8.1.10mdk-1-1mdk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ uname -r
 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp


And this is the last bit of xorg.log

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module vgahw
(II) LoadModule: vgahw
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE000
(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFD00
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: nvidia
(II) UnloadModule: vgahw
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.X.Org

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 12:04 pm, Randall Hobbs wrote:
 Hi Dan. When you reinstalled the source, did you prep it? If not,
 that might cause you some problems. I'm sorta' throwing together a
 tute page for this, so if you want me to send it to you let me know
 and I'll send you the link (it's at a temporary location right now,
 but will be made publicly available once I get time to set the new
 domain up and get the pages moved over).


No not yet but im going to try it again.  Yes a tutorial would be great.

Thanks Randall

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 12:04 pm, Randall Hobbs wrote:
 Hi Dan. When you reinstalled the source, did you prep it? If not,
 that might cause you some problems. I'm sorta' throwing together a
 tute page for this, so if you want me to send it to you let me know
 and I'll send you the link (it's at a temporary location right now,
 but will be made publicly available once I get time to set the new
 domain up and get the pages moved over).


I have only one question that has not been clear to me.
uname -r tells me my kernel is 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
so for the set EXTRAVERSION part would I put
2.6.8.1-10mdksmp or
-10mdksmp ?

Thanks for all your help Randall

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Monday 18 October 2004 12:17 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 I have only one question that has not been clear to me.
 uname -r tells me my kernel is 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
 so for the set EXTRAVERSION part would I put
 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp or
 -10mdksmp ?

Should just be -10mdksmp

 Thanks for all your help Randall

Not a problem at all...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 01:28 pm, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:

 Should just be -10mdksmp

  Thanks for all your help Randall

 Not a problem at all...

Ok I followed you directions exactly but still a no go.  Here is the 
output of grep kernel and uname -r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-10mdk
kernel-smp-2.6.8.1.10mdk-1-1mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ uname -r
2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$
and here is the nvidia-installer.log
nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
creation time: Mon Oct 18 14:02:58 2004

option status:
  license pre-accepted: false
  update  : false
  force update: false
  expert  : false
  uninstall   : false
  driver info : false
  no precompiled interface: false
  no ncurses color: false
  query latest driver ver : false
  OpenGL header files : false
  no questions: false
  silent  : false
  X install prefix: /usr/X11R6
  OpenGL install prefix   : /usr
  Installer install prefix: /usr
  kernel source path  : (not specified)
  kernel install path : (not specified)
  proc mount point: /proc
  ui  : (not specified)
  tmpdir  : /root/tmp
  ftp site: ftp://download.nvidia.com

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
- Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-10mdksmp/build'
- Copying kernel module sources to temporary directory.
- Building kernel interface:
   executing: 'cd /root/tmp/nvidia-5954; make nv-linux.o 
SYSSRC=/lib/modules/2.
   6.8.1-10mdksmp/build'...
   If you are using a Linux 2.4 kernel, please make sure
   you either have configured kernel sources matching your
   kernel or the correct set of kernel headers installed
   on your system.
   
   If you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure
   you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel
   installed on your system. If you specified a separate
   output directory using either the KBUILD_OUTPUT or
   the O KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this
   directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with
   the appropriate nvidia-installer command line option.
   
   *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
   
   make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
- Error.
ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module interface.
ERROR: Unable to add a precompiled kernel interface for the running 
kernel.

I hope this can tell you something,  cause I'm lost lol.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Monday 18 October 2004 20:09, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On Monday 18 October 2004 01:28 pm, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
  Should just be -10mdksmp
 
   Thanks for all your help Randall
 
  Not a problem at all...

 Ok I followed you directions exactly but still a no go.  Here is the
 output of grep kernel and uname -r
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel
 kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-10mdk
 kernel-smp-2.6.8.1.10mdk-1-1mdk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ uname -r
 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$

snip

At least in 10.0 OE AFAIK kernel-source-stripped was the rpm you need 
for building external modules.

HTH,

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Dan Gordon
On Monday 18 October 2004 03:32 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote:

 snip

 At least in 10.0 OE AFAIK kernel-source-stripped was the rpm you need
 for building external modules.

 HTH,

 -Frans

Thats what I was wondering,  so can I remove the wrong source now and 
install the right one or do I have to start over ?

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-18 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Monday 18 October 2004 22:54, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On Monday 18 October 2004 03:32 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
  snip
 
  At least in 10.0 OE AFAIK kernel-source-stripped was the rpm you
  need for building external modules.
 
  HTH,
 
  -Frans

 Thats what I was wondering,  so can I remove the wrong source now and
 install the right one or do I have to start over ?

 Regards,
 Dan Gordon

You can remove the 'wrong' source and try kernel-source-stripped. You 
can always just use urpme / urpmi to revert to the original 
configuration I think.

Good luck!

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-17 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 16, 2004 05:47 am, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:

 Hi Dan. After preparing your source code (using the method I sent you
 earlier), go to your directory where you have the NVidia drivers. Run
 the file like so:

 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --add-this-kernal

 This will add your current kernel to the setup, and it will generate
 a new NVidia driver file. After that, go into init 3:

 # init 3

 Then run the newly created file:

 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1-custom.run

 This will install the driver, and all you'll need to do is modify the
 XFree86Config-4 file to load the 'nvidia' module.

Hi Randall I cant seem to get it to build the new driver.
I do ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel
and I get permision denied no matter how I do this as root or user.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-17 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Sunday 17 October 2004 09:15 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 Hi Randall I cant seem to get it to build the new driver.
 I do ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel
 and I get permision denied no matter how I do this as root or user.

Hi Dan. Out of curiousity, what's the permissions on the 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run file? Do the following:

# stat NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run

You should see something like:
  File: `NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run'
  Size: 8167999 Blocks: 15984  IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 900h/2304d  Inode: 32778   Links: 1
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (  501/mandrake)   Gid: (  501/mandrake)
Access: 2004-10-17 19:54:32.0 -0500
Modify: 2004-09-30 17:12:18.0 -0500
Change: 2004-10-05 21:55:03.0 -0500

If the executable bit isn't set, you won't be able to execute it, no matter 
which user you're trying to run it with. To correct it, simply type:

# chmod 0755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run

Then you should be able to execute the file without any problems.

Let me know if that's indeed the problem, or if we should dive a little deeper 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-17 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 17, 2004 10:33 pm, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:

 Hi Dan. Out of curiousity, what's the permissions on the
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run file? Do the following:

 # stat NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run

 You should see something like:
   File: `NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run'
   Size: 8167999 Blocks: 15984  IO Block: 4096   regular
 file Device: 900h/2304d  Inode: 32778   Links: 1
 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (  501/mandrake)   Gid: ( 
 501/mandrake) Access: 2004-10-17 19:54:32.0 -0500
 Modify: 2004-09-30 17:12:18.0 -0500
 Change: 2004-10-05 21:55:03.0 -0500

 If the executable bit isn't set, you won't be able to execute it, no
 matter which user you're trying to run it with. To correct it, simply
 type:

 # chmod 0755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run

 Then you should be able to execute the file without any problems.

 Let me know if that's indeed the problem, or if we should dive a
 little deeper into it.

Ok I did chmod which alowed me to execute the file but now I get this 
error.
unable to build the nvidia kernel module interface, then
unable to add a precompiled kernel interface for the running kernel
BTW I have tryed this in smp and single kernel just to check the errors 
and they were both the same.  I have also tryed the nvidia 5336 
installer which complains about not finding a matching source for the 
kernel.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-16 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Friday 15 October 2004 07:58 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 I tryed this but when trying to install nvidia drivers the error I get is
 something about not being able to determin the source version.
 I have had these problems with smp before so i think im just going to
 reinstall with a regular kernel and source and try again.
 Thanks for the info I may try this again soon but right now I need things
 running by tomorrow.

Hi Dan. After preparing your source code (using the method I sent you 
earlier), go to your directory where you have the NVidia drivers. Run the 
file like so:

./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --add-this-kernal

This will add your current kernel to the setup, and it will generate a new 
NVidia driver file. After that, go into init 3:

# init 3

Then run the newly created file:

./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1-custom.run

This will install the driver, and all you'll need to do is modify the 
XFree86Config-4 file to load the 'nvidia' module.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-16 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 16, 2004 05:47 am, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:

 Hi Dan. After preparing your source code (using the method I sent you
 earlier), go to your directory where you have the NVidia drivers. Run
 the file like so:

 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --add-this-kernal

 This will add your current kernel to the setup, and it will generate
 a new NVidia driver file. After that, go into init 3:

 # init 3

 Then run the newly created file:

 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1-custom.run

 This will install the driver, and all you'll need to do is modify the
 XFree86Config-4 file to load the 'nvidia' module.

Thanks Randall,  I will give this a try later tonight.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-15 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Friday 15 October 2004 04:13 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 Hello all,
 I just installed Mandrake 10.1 community and am running kernel
 2.6.8.1-10smp which is working real well for me this time.  I need the
 kernel source. Question is I see only a kernel source 2.6.8.1-10 (does not
 say smp) is this what i need or should i be looking for something else ?

Hi Dan. That's what you need. Grab that, then install it. Then go into 
the /usr/src/linux directory, and do as follows:

# make mrproper
# cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
# make oldconfig
# vi Makefile (set the EXTRAVERSION to what you have)

Your kernel source should then be properly prepared for your kernel, and 
you'll be good to go.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-10-15 Thread Dan Gordon
On Friday 15 October 2004 07:33 pm, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
 On Friday 15 October 2004 04:13 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
  Hello all,
  I just installed Mandrake 10.1 community and am running kernel
  2.6.8.1-10smp which is working real well for me this time.  I need the
  kernel source. Question is I see only a kernel source 2.6.8.1-10 (does
  not say smp) is this what i need or should i be looking for something
  else ?

 Hi Dan. That's what you need. Grab that, then install it. Then go into
 the /usr/src/linux directory, and do as follows:

 # make mrproper
 # cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
 # make oldconfig
 # vi Makefile (set the EXTRAVERSION to what you have)

 Your kernel source should then be properly prepared for your kernel, and
 you'll be good to go.

I tryed this but when trying to install nvidia drivers the error I get is 
something about not being able to determin the source version.
I have had these problems with smp before so i think im just going to 
reinstall with a regular kernel and source and try again.
Thanks for the info I may try this again soon but right now I need things 
running by tomorrow.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.7

2004-09-26 Thread Thereidos
W licie z sob, 25-09-2004, godz. 13:24, Alberto Cicala pisze: 
 Ciao! Ho installato il kernel 2.6.7 su Mandrake 10.0 trovato su una
 rivista come rpm! Il mio intento era di fargli riconoscere la scheda
 audio Creative Audigy LS ma installandolo cos non  cambiato nulla
 (facendo ovviamente il boot dalla nuova voce linux 2.6.7.0.r3c.1mdk)!
 Ho controllato i sorgenti e il modulo SB Augidy LS mi sembra presente!
 Ricompilando il kernel ricevo un messaggio di kernel panic error nell
 init! Qualche suggerimento?

Hi there.

First of all - English please. And the second - no HTML.

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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-13 Thread Johan Sch
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:58:14 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 12 September 2004 01:13 pm, Johan Sch wrote:
  On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:59:36 +0100
 
 snip 

 #
 # Firmware Drivers
 #
 CONFIG_EDD=y
 
 *** That's a paste from /usr/src/linux/.config for the latest 
 Mandrake kernel, 2.6.8.1-10
 
If you're current kernel's  .config  (in /boot) shows
 CONFIG_EDD=y   then 'tech staff' is wrong. Otherwise..
 
Install the kernel-source rpm for your kernel if it isn't 
 already. Search it's .config and and if the line looks somethin 
 like# CONFIG_EDD is not set , remove the leading hash 
 (ie, uncomment the line) and edit it to   CONFIG_EDD=y
 Save that .config to a another, eg,  .config.save   ... and after 
 moving it back into   .config   after the 'make 
 mrproper' (mandatory) first step, then 'make oldconfig' and 
 continue with the steps to compile a new kernel.
 
make  make modules_install  make install
 
 The last step is only fully productive if you first edited 
 Makefile before compiling, changed the EXTRAVERSION = (new_name), 
 and uncommented the line (about 460 somethin),
   export  INSTALL_PATH=/boot
 Then the files and links needed are created in /boot, lilo (and 
 grub) is edited and run for you to make the new kernel an option 
 on boot.  Your new kernel will not be the default, you'll have to 
 choose it on booting up.
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Proud to be an American
 

*
First. Thanks for your detailed instructions. Some of it is still a foreign language 
to me.

The following command which I got from another list shows this..
 
 find . -type f -exec grep CONFIG_EDD {} \; -print

CONFIG_EDD=y
./config-2.6.3-7mdk
CONFIG_EDD=y
./config-2.6.3-15mdk
CONFIG_EDD=y
./config-2.6.3-16mdk

uname -r
2.6.3-16mdk

I am running the last kernel. Then I suppose they must be wrong??
But it is not the kernel 2.6.5 or later as suggested. Should that make a difference??
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-12 Thread Johan Sch
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:35:04 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote:
  On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100
 
  Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
Hi,
   
Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.
   
Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be
found. Thanks
  
   I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
   The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
   The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it
   cannot be guaranteed they will.
  
   derek
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  I could try them if I can locate them.
  Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
  Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
  Thanks
 
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/10.1/i586/media/main
 
 derek
 
 -- 
***
Hi Derek,

Thanks for kindly providing the above.
Seem some changes to install kernel has taken place in 10.1.
Downloaded the kernel. Required some dependencies. Downloaded that. Too many 
conflicts. Do not want to maybe cripple my system.
At least I tried.
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 12 September 2004 07:17, Johan Sch wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:35:04 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote:
   On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100
  
   Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
 Hi,

 Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.

 Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be
 found. Thanks
   
I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but
it cannot be guaranteed they will.
   
derek
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   I could try them if I can locate them.
   Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
   Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
   Thanks
 
  ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/10.1/i586/med
 ia/main
 
  derek
 
  --
 ***

 Hi Derek,

 Thanks for kindly providing the above.
 Seem some changes to install kernel has taken place in 10.1.
 Downloaded the kernel. Required some dependencies. Downloaded that. Too
 many conflicts. Do not want to maybe cripple my system. At least I tried.
 Regards

Yes thats what I was afraid of.
You never said why you needed a kernel later than 2.6.5
Is there some kind of hardware support you need?

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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-12 Thread Johan Sch
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:59:36 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 12 September 2004 07:17, Johan Sch wrote:
  On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:35:04 +0100
 
  Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100
   
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.
 
  Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be
  found. Thanks

 I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
 The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
 The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but
 it cannot be guaranteed they will.

 derek
 --
   

   
I could try them if I can locate them.
Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
Thanks
  
   ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/10.1/i586/med
  ia/main
  
   derek
  
   --
  ***
 
  Hi Derek,
 
  Thanks for kindly providing the above.
  Seem some changes to install kernel has taken place in 10.1.
  Downloaded the kernel. Required some dependencies. Downloaded that. Too
  many conflicts. Do not want to maybe cripple my system. At least I tried.
  Regards
 
 Yes thats what I was afraid of.
 You never said why you needed a kernel later than 2.6.5
 Is there some kind of hardware support you need?
 
 derek
 
**
Yes. Some problems with harddrive. Tech staff at . testdisk . utility suggested I 
should upgrade to a later kernel with CONFIG_EDD activated.
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 12 September 2004 01:13 pm, Johan Sch wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:59:36 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sunday 12 September 2004 07:17, Johan Sch wrote:
   On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:35:04 +0100
  
   Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.
  
   Please any site where latest kernels compiled for
   mdk10.0 could be found. Thanks
 
  I just realised you are looking for kernels later
  than 2.6.5 The update mirrors will not have anything
  later than 2.6.3 The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8
  kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it cannot be
  guaranteed they will.
 
  derek
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 I could try them if I can locate them.
 Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
 Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
 Thanks
   
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-dev
   el/10.1/i586/med ia/main
   
derek
   
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   ***
  
   Hi Derek,
  
   Thanks for kindly providing the above.
   Seem some changes to install kernel has taken place in
   10.1. Downloaded the kernel. Required some dependencies.
   Downloaded that. Too many conflicts. Do not want to maybe
   cripple my system. At least I tried. Regards
 
  Yes thats what I was afraid of.
  You never said why you needed a kernel later than 2.6.5
  Is there some kind of hardware support you need?
 
  derek

 **
 Yes. Some problems with harddrive. Tech staff at . testdisk .
 utility suggested I should upgrade to a later kernel with
 CONFIG_EDD activated. Regards
***
#
# Firmware Drivers
#
CONFIG_EDD=y

*** That's a paste from /usr/src/linux/.config for the latest 
Mandrake kernel, 2.6.8.1-10

   If you're current kernel's  .config  (in /boot) shows
CONFIG_EDD=y   then 'tech staff' is wrong. Otherwise..

   Install the kernel-source rpm for your kernel if it isn't 
already. Search it's .config and and if the line looks somethin 
like# CONFIG_EDD is not set , remove the leading hash 
(ie, uncomment the line) and edit it to   CONFIG_EDD=y
Save that .config to a another, eg,  .config.save   ... and after 
moving it back into   .config   after the 'make 
mrproper' (mandatory) first step, then 'make oldconfig' and 
continue with the steps to compile a new kernel.

   make  make modules_install  make install

The last step is only fully productive if you first edited 
Makefile before compiling, changed the EXTRAVERSION = (new_name), 
and uncommented the line (about 460 somethin),
  exportINSTALL_PATH=/boot
Then the files and links needed are created in /boot, lilo (and 
grub) is edited and run for you to make the new kernel an option 
on boot.  Your new kernel will not be the default, you'll have to 
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
 Hi,

 Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.

 Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be found.
 Thanks
They are on the Mandrake update mirrors, but will not be installed 
automatically by Mandrake Update.

To install the latest kernel first run Mandrake Update
(MenuSystemConfigurationPackagingMandrakeUpdate)

If this is the first time you have run it, it will ask you to select an update 
mirror from a list.

MandrakeUpdate will show you a list of available updates.
You should install at least the security alerts.
Running Mandrake Update will refresh your computers local copy of available 
kernels.

Now go to the Mandrake Install GUI at
MenuSystemConfigurationPackagingInstallSoftware
and enter kernel in the search box. You will see a whole list of possible 
kernels. The latest kernel for a standard 10.0 system is
kernel-2.6.3.16mdk-1-1mdk.i586

Install the kernel.
New kernels are installed alongside existing kernels.  The new kernel will 
become the default boot kernel and a new boot menu item will allow you to 
boot the old kernel if you wish.


If you have an Nvidia graphics card and use the proprietary nvidia driver you 
will need to install kernel-source to match the new kernel and recompile the 
driver or else X will not work when you boot the new kernel.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
 Hi,

 Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.

 Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be found.
 Thanks

I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it cannot 
be guaranteed they will.

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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-11 Thread Johan Sch
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.
 
  Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be found.
  Thanks
 
 I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
 The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
 The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it cannot 
 be guaranteed they will.
 
 derek
 -- 


I could try them if I can locate them.
Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
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Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later

2004-09-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0.
  
   Please any site where latest kernels compiled for mdk10.0 could be
   found. Thanks
 
  I just realised you are looking for kernels later than 2.6.5
  The update mirrors will not have anything later than 2.6.3
  The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it
  cannot be guaranteed they will.
 
  derek
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 I could try them if I can locate them.
 Could only find the iso's but no kernels.
 Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels.
 Thanks

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/10.1/i586/media/main

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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-08-07 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 02:40, J. Gregory Croes wrote:
 Hallo, stephen
 
 I got the VMware patch. I want to get it in RPM file because its easier 
 for me to install because i am not an expert in linux. And how can I get 
 te mdk kernelsource (rpm) and do I need to compile it. can you give me 
 some hint?
 
 Regards,
 Gregory

You can install VMWare via the RPM, but you're still going to have to
compile the patch for it in order to even run
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source

2004-08-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 06 August 2004 12:40 pm, J. Gregory Croes wrote:
 Hallo, stephen

 I got the VMware patch. I want to get it in RPM file because its easier
 for me to install because i am not an expert in linux. And how can I get
 te mdk kernelsource (rpm) and do I need to compile it. can you give me
 some hint?

If you get VMware 4.5.2 from vmware website, you don't need the patch.  It 
will set itslef up on 10.0 without a problem.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-07 Thread Ryan Steffes
I'm already running with nolapic because of some issues with my mobo not 
playing nice, so no luck there.

There doesn't seem to me to be any disernable difference between running 
the one kernel and the other, it's just that the new kernel doesn't work.


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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-06 Thread Scott Mazur
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:49:55 -0400, Ryan Steffes wrote
 This is possibly a dumb question or at least a question with not 
 enough information, but I'm was trying to upgrade my kernel from the 
 2.6.3-7mdk rpm to the source 2.6.7 from kernel.org (with the -ck4 
 patch).  The problem I'm having is that when I try to use it, it 
 seems to insist on using IPV6, so it's not getting any IP address 
 from my gateway.  It ends up assigning some number to eth0 and then 
 some bad number to eth0:9 and basically not working.
 
 Any clues?

I had a similar problem moving from 2.6.3-7mdk to 2.6.3-14mdk (at least it 
appears similar).  Eth0 would take forever to load (and eventually fail).  
Ifconfig looked like all the network interfaces were in IPV6 mode.  My 
solution was to check the 'no acpi' box in the mcc boot config.  Never spent 
any time looking into it beyond that, but I did notice that ifconfig reports 
IPV6 information even on a non IPV6 network.  I suspect the nic hardware was 
just not being setup properly, and lacking a solid IPV4 ip address, ifconfig 
reported only the IPV6 info.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-06 Thread Scott Mazur
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:43:12 -0600, Scott Mazur wrote
 On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:49:55 -0400, Ryan Steffes wrote
  This is possibly a dumb question or at least a question with not 
  enough information, but I'm was trying to upgrade my kernel from the 
  2.6.3-7mdk rpm to the source 2.6.7 from kernel.org (with the -ck4 
  patch).  The problem I'm having is that when I try to use it, it 
  seems to insist on using IPV6, so it's not getting any IP address 
  from my gateway.  It ends up assigning some number to eth0 and then 
  some bad number to eth0:9 and basically not working.
  
  Any clues?
 
 I had a similar problem moving from 2.6.3-7mdk to 2.6.3-14mdk (at 
 least it appears similar).  Eth0 would take forever to load (and 
 eventually fail).  Ifconfig looked like all the network interfaces 
 were in IPV6 mode.  My solution was to check the 'no acpi' box in 
 the mcc boot config.  Never spent any time looking into it beyond 
 that, but I did notice that ifconfig reports IPV6 information even 
 on a non IPV6 network.  I suspect the nic hardware was just not 
 being setup properly, and lacking a solid IPV4 ip address, ifconfig 
 reported only the IPV6 info.

Sorry, it was the 'Force no local APIC' box I checked, not acpi.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6 Issues

2004-06-19 Thread John Drouhard
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 12:19, Alastair Fay wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have been digging around on the net for HOW-TOs
 regarding recompiling the kernel (2.6 - CE, not
 Official)... I have found some, but they were not of
 any help. I get errors regarding initrd or something.
 When I get back home, I will try a re-compile, and
 report the errors...
 
 Anyone been able to recompile with no problems on the
 following h/w?
 
 XP2400, KT400 (MSI KT4-Ultra), 768MB DDR PC2700, 200Gb
 Maxtor, 9800 Pro
 
 Thanks in advance :)
 

If you get this error when you are trying to boot your new kernel, then
you won't need to recompile the kernel, luckily. You just have to make
an initrd image file. To do this, boot into a useable kernel and open a
terminal as root. Type in the following command: mkinitrd
/boot/initrd-kernel version.img kernel version. kernel version is
the directory in /lib/modules that contains the modules for the kernel
you compiled. When this command is done, edit your lilo.conf to use that
initrd image file.

image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.3
label=linux2.6.3
root=/dev/hdc5
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.3.img
append=noapic nolapic devfs=nomount mem=nopentium hdb=ide-cd
hdd=ide-cd acpi=off
vga=788
read-only

That for example is a stanza for a kernel I compiled. Run lilo and try
your new kernel again.

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6 Issues

2004-06-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 19 June 2004 01:19 pm, Alastair Fay wrote:
 Anyone been able to recompile with no problems on the
 following h/w?

 XP2400, KT400 (MSI KT4-Ultra), 768MB DDR PC2700, 200Gb
 Maxtor, 9800 Pro

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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.4 in 10.0 OE

2004-05-14 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Thomas Wilkowski wrote:
The 2.4 kernel should have been automatically
installed when you installed mdk10. If it was not
than, yes you can install it and it will install side
by side. You will also have to edit /etc/lilo.conf.
But before you do please double check /etc/lilo.conf
to see if the already exists a stanza for kernel
2.4.*.*mdk.
No, it was not installed, but I guess it depends on the choiches you 
make during the instalaltion.
Yes, when you install it it also updates lilo.conf.

thanks,

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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.4 in 10.0 OE

2004-05-13 Thread Thomas Wilkowski
The 2.4 kernel should have been automatically
installed when you installed mdk10. If it was not
than, yes you can install it and it will install side
by side. You will also have to edit /etc/lilo.conf.
But before you do please double check /etc/lilo.conf
to see if the already exists a stanza for kernel
2.4.*.*mdk.

tsw
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 If I install kernel 2.4 in 10.0 Official with kernel
 2.6, will it 
 replace the 2.6 or be installed side-by-side, so
 that I can add a lilo 
 entry to boot in one or the other?
 
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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.4 in 10.0 OE

2004-05-13 Thread Margot
Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
If I install kernel 2.4 in 10.0 Official with kernel 2.6, will it 
replace the 2.6 or be installed side-by-side, so that I can add a lilo 
entry to boot in one or the other?

raffaele

A new kernel will be installed side-by-side with the existing one, 
so you can choose to boot into one or the other. Of course, if you 
eventually find a perfect kernel that fulfils all your needs, you 
can then uninstall the old one(s) using urpme.


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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.4 in 10.0 OE

2004-05-13 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Margot wrote:
A new kernel will be installed side-by-side with the existing one, so 
you can choose to boot into one or the other. Of course, if you 
eventually find a perfect kernel that fulfils all your needs, you can 
then uninstall the old one(s) using urpme.
Thanks, I will try it out.

I noticed that in 10.0 movies that played fine in 9.2 are no longer 
smooth. I'll try with the older kernel.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2004-05-05 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On May 4, 2004 04:35, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:12, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
  Finally got updates working with 10.0 Official. I see a completely
  different list of mirrors now in Mandrake Update, so I guess they've
  finally straightened that mess out.
 
  I updated my kernel from 2.6.3.7 to 2.6.3.9:
...
  You can see that the initrd.img and vmlinuz links have been updated. But
  config and System.map still point to the old files, even though new ones
  have been installed. Also, kernel.h doesn't even have a new version.
 
  Now being my first kernel upgrade, and not knowing exactly what role
  these different files play, these inconsistencies scare me. What do the
  config and System.map files do? Why do I not have an updated kernel.h?
 
  Most importantly, is it safe to boot up to this new kernel with this
  configuration?
 
  Any experienced kernel upgraders out there who can help me out?

 Boot the new kernel. I guess those files and links are created after the
 kernel is booted.

You were right, the other links got updated during boot. Whew! Thanks. I was a 
little unnerved about my first kernel upgrade, but it couldn't have gone any 
smoother.

 If you have any problem, you can reboot to the kernel you are working
 with now.


Yeah, I was just afraid it might trash something (since those links were 
pointing to the wrong files, I thought it might overwrite something in the 
old kernel). My mind's been poisoned by the Windoze world (I keep rebooting 
when I don't need to, just to be safe :^).


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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rick Kunath
Thanks for the tips on the kernel install. 

I have installed them many times. 

What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case is that 
unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was never shown in the 
update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix kernel was released, the 
kernel source would show up in the updates list, prompting the user to 
install it, then follow that with the installation of the appropriate kernel 
as you described. The presence of the kernel source was always a good flag 
that new kernels were available for installation.

That didn't happen this time.

The other curious thing is that the comments section of the description of the 
kernels and kernel source (2.6.3-8) read not available. In the past, this 
section held a description of the kernel, and information as to the bugs 
corrected by the package. None of this information is there on these kernels. 

I'd like to know if these are valid kernels, were they released as bug fixes, 
and why they are described as unavailable. There is something strange about 
these kernel packages. 

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rory
On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
 Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.

 I have installed them many times.

 What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case is that
 unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was never shown in the
 update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix kernel was released, the
 kernel source would show up in the updates list, prompting the user to
 install it, then follow that with the installation of the appropriate
 kernel as you described. The presence of the kernel source was always a
 good flag that new kernels were available for installation.
 That didn't happen this time.

Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install 2.6.3-8mdk.  
So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said that you don't install 
kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go fine.  But now, I can't find 
2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it installed to and it hasn't appeared as an 
option in my boot configuration.  

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 14:21, Rory wrote:
 On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
  Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.
 
  I have installed them many times.
 
  What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this
  case is that unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source
  was never shown in the update list. In the past, whenever a new
  bugfix kernel was released, the kernel source would show up in
  the updates list, prompting the user to install it, then follow
  that with the installation of the appropriate kernel as you
  described. The presence of the kernel source was always a good
  flag that new kernels were available for installation. That
  didn't happen this time.

 Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
 2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said
 that you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go
 fine.  But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it
 installed to and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot
 configuration.

Rory, in a terminal, type uname -a or take a look inside the 
drectory /boot. Better yet, edit (as root) your /etc/lilo.conf 
where you can change the default line to your new kernel. Don't 
forget to run lilo when done.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 15 April 2004 13:21, Rory wrote:
 On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
  Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.
 
  I have installed them many times.
 
  What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case
  is that unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was
  never shown in the update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix
  kernel was released, the kernel source would show up in the updates
  list, prompting the user to install it, then follow that with the
  installation of the appropriate kernel as you described. The
  presence of the kernel source was always a good flag that new
  kernels were available for installation. That didn't happen this
  time.

 Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
 2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said that
 you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go fine. 
 But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it installed to
 and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot configuration.

 Rory

It may be that your 'linux' option has had its pointer changed to the 
new kernel, so you don't see it.  I think that's what happened when I 
installed an additional one.  You will probably find that /boot/vmlinuz 
and /boot/initrd are linked to the new one.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rory
Here's the output.  No luck.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rory]# uname -a
Linux 192.168.0.3 2.6.3-4mdk #1 Tue Mar 2 07:26:13 CET 2004 i686 unknown 
unknown GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls
boot.0200   initrd-2.6.3-4mdk.img  message-text
boot.0301   initrd-2.6.img@System.map@
config@ initrd.img@System.map-2.4.25-2mdk
config-2.4.25-2mdk  kernel.h@  System.map-2.6.3-4mdk
config-2.6.3-4mdk   kernel.h-2.4.25-2mdk   us.klt
diag1.img   kernel.h-2.6.3-4mdkvmlinuz@
diag2.img   mapvmlinuz-2.4.25-2mdk
grub/   message@   vmlinuz-2.6@
initrd-2.4.25-2mdk.img  message-graphicvmlinuz-2.6.3-4mdk

Yes, it did prompt me to install, I selected yes and it then urpmi went to 
work.

Hmm...



  Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
  2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said
  that you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go
  fine.  But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it
  installed to and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot
  configuration.

 Rory, in a terminal, type uname -a or take a look inside the
 drectory /boot. Better yet, edit (as root) your /etc/lilo.conf
 where you can change the default line to your new kernel. Don't
 forget to run lilo when done.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rick Kunath
I don't know where it installed to and it hasn't
 appeared as an option in my boot configuration.



Did you inspect your /etc/lilo.conf file to see if a stanza was added for the 
new kernel? 

Did you do a lilo -v (you don't need the -v option, but I like to see what's 
going on as the config is processed) from a terminal as root after installing 
the new kernel, to write the new lilo to disk?

If you didn't do the above, and a stanza was properly added to your lilo.conf 
file when you installed the kernel, that's why it didn't show up in your lilo 
list of installed kernels.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 14:43, Rory wrote:
 Here's the output.  No luck.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rory]# uname -a
 Linux 192.168.0.3 2.6.3-4mdk #1 Tue Mar 2 07:26:13 CET 2004 i686
 unknown unknown GNU/Linux

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls
 boot.0200   initrd-2.6.3-4mdk.img  message-text
 boot.0301   initrd-2.6.img@System.map@
 config@ initrd.img@   
 System.map-2.4.25-2mdk config-2.4.25-2mdk  kernel.h@ 
 System.map-2.6.3-4mdk config-2.6.3-4mdk  
 kernel.h-2.4.25-2mdk   us.klt
 diag1.img   kernel.h-2.6.3-4mdkvmlinuz@
 diag2.img   map   
 vmlinuz-2.4.25-2mdk grub/   message@ 
  vmlinuz-2.6@ initrd-2.4.25-2mdk.img  message-graphic   
 vmlinuz-2.6.3-4mdk

 Yes, it did prompt me to install, I selected yes and it then
 urpmi went to work.

Well, it seems the new kernel isn't installed. How did you try to 
install it ?  When I do it, I download the kernel into a directory, 
change into that directory and, as root, urpmi kernelblabla.rpm. 
When finished, I edit lilo.conf, run lilo, done. If everything then 
works, I urpme the old kernel to save some space.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-14 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:06, Rick Kunath wrote:
 Why are the 2.6.3-8 kernel series present in the Proxad 10
 official update directory, but are marked as not available in
 the comments section of Mandrake Update, though they are listed
 when doing a MCC update search?

 The kernel source does not appear as either a bug update or a
 regular update in Mandrake Update.

 It appears these are in the Update directory for 10, but are not
 available for installation for some reason.

 Any ideas why?

 Rick Kunath

Kernels are not updated. They have to be installed. Here is 
how :

1. When in a browser, right-click the kernel-2.6.3-8blah..blahh.rpm 
and choose copy to /home/rick/somedirectorywhatever.
2. Change into that directory, open a terminal, su to root, give 
root password.
3. Type : urpmi kernel(and now hit TAB)
4. If the output from that shows your desired kernel version, hit 
enter.
5. Enjoy all the hashes.
6.When the command prompt shows again, you are done.
7. If you want the new kernel as default, edit your /etc/lilo.conf 
(by changing the the default line to the new version).
8. Don't forget to run lilo afterwards.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-09 Thread John Richard Smith
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 08:37, John Richard Smith wrote:

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:42, Tom wrote:

It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 

from www.kernel.org.
Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
thing, having the sources is another.
I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.

stephen kuhn - owner

M9.2 CD3 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm
but no headers I think.Ought to be really.
John
If it's there, then I can't seem to find it.
I see kernels, but no source.
Ah well, either which, just means a large download.
Too bad Australia literally shuts down on long weekends - still
something I'm going to have to get used to even after being here more
than four years.
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You are right Stephen, I didn't know you wanted to recompile, I thought you just wanted the kernel sources that installs into MCC and gives you preset options to enable/disable certain functions etc.

If you send me off list the url's of the exact files you want I can remedy the situation for you. Come to think of it I wouldn't mind them myself.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 20:37, John Richard Smith wrote:

 You are right Stephen, I didn't know you wanted to recompile, I thought you just 
 wanted the kernel sources that installs into MCC and gives you preset options to 
 enable/disable certain functions etc.
 
 If you send me off list the url's of the exact files you want I can remedy the 
 situation for you. Come to think of it I wouldn't mind them myself.
 
 John

I'm attempting to dig up a satisfactory URL for it - but hey, if I get
it first, I'll blast off a copy to ya.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-08 Thread Len Lawrence
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:44:58 +0200
Pablo Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I experienced exactly the same when updating from 2.4.22-26 to 2.4.22-28.
 I searched the web and this list looking for answers and I found none. After
 several attepmts to run 'lilo' with different options (all unsuccessful with
 the same error message), I decided to be brave (I have a full back up of my
 system) and rebooted. To my surprise, all went well, but the system started
 with the old kernel. I guess this is because, as lilo failed, nothing was
 changed. So I think the links in /boot are used by LILO to update the boot
 loader, but the real paths to kernel, etc, are used in the boot loader.
 Then I entered 'lilo -v' (after changing all links in /boot to point to the
 new kernel), and this time there was no error. One more reboot and now I am
 running the latest kernel.
 
 | On advice from Mandrake Expert I have just installed the 2.4.22-28 kernel
 to
 | replace the 2.4.22-10 supplied with Mandrake 9.2 ProSuite.
 | When the RPM installed via urpmi an error occurred at the /sbin/lilo
 stage:
 |   error regenerating lilo
 | The lilo.conf looked OK so I ran /sbin/lilo again and it returned
 |   Fatal: volid read error.


Thanks for the encouragement Pablo.  Will give it a go. 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Tom
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

Ok - I tried searching through the damn list and can't get it.
Where in the hell is the damn kernel source for 9.2? It's not apparently
on the CD's...and I can't live without my kernel source.
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It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:42, Tom wrote:

 It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
 from www.kernel.org.

Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
thing, having the sources is another.

I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.

Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Tom
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:42, Tom wrote:

 

It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
from www.kernel.org.
   

Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
thing, having the sources is another.
I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.

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Isn't the 40 or so megabyte rpm on the cd the sources?  When you install 
that doesn't it put all the source / header files into /usr/src/linux?  
I have always just pulled down the file from kernel.org and un-tarred 
and compiled.  I could be wrong.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 07:59:14 +1000
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
 sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.

The kernel src.rpm Was not included in the 3 set 9.2 isos.

The updated src.rpm as well as an updated 9.2 kernel Are avaiable from any 9.2 
update_source


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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 07:59:14 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
  from www.kernel.org.
 
 Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
 was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
 thing, having the sources is another.
 
 I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
 sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
 
 Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.

That was one of the 'issues' with 9.2, that the kernel sources were not included
on the CD's. You gotta get them from a urpmi source ('main', IIRC). Should be a
bit of a download for yer 56K :-\

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 08:09, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 07:59:14 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 
  I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
  sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
 
 The kernel src.rpm Was not included in the 3 set 9.2 isos.
 
 The updated src.rpm as well as an updated 9.2 kernel Are avaiable from any 9.2 
 update_source
 
 
 Charles

Which then means that I have to d/l the src on my poor 56k connection -
dang. Reckon it's a good time to run down yonder to one of my client's
that has broadband and suck the source from there. Dang dang dang. And
it's the bloody Easter long weekend - don't reckon anyone will want to
let me into their offices until Tuesday of next week. Sucks. Ah well.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 08:15, JoeHill wrote:

 That was one of the 'issues' with 9.2, that the kernel sources were not included
 on the CD's. You gotta get them from a urpmi source ('main', IIRC). Should be a
 bit of a download for yer 56K :-\

Yeah, well, guess I'm shit-outta-luck this weekend. Most of the internet
cafes are closed for the next four days, and I'm trying in vain to
locate one of my clients that MIGHT be around so I can use their
broadband...

Seems everywhere I move around Wollongong it's a bad place to get either
ADSL or 802.11g...my bad luck, ay?

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread John Richard Smith
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:42, Tom wrote:

It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
from www.kernel.org.

Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
thing, having the sources is another.
I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.

stephen kuhn - owner

M9.2 CD3 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm
but no headers I think.Ought to be really.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Sources for MDK 9.2

2004-04-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 08:37, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:42, Tom wrote:
 
 It shouild be on cd 3 in the rpms folder.  Or you could pull new ones 
 from www.kernel.org.
 
 
 Ok - dig - the KERNELS are there, but I want the kernel sources. There
 was an email about this about a week or so ago. Having a kernel is one
 thing, having the sources is another.
 
 I can't compile device drivers without having the kernel headers and
 sources - no video driver, no modem driver, etc etc etc.
 
 Getting slightly pissed off at this 9.2 installation this morning.
 
 stephen kuhn - owner
 
 M9.2 CD3 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm
 but no headers I think.Ought to be really.
 John

If it's there, then I can't seem to find it.
I see kernels, but no source.
Ah well, either which, just means a large download.

Too bad Australia literally shuts down on long weekends - still
something I'm going to have to get used to even after being here more
than four years.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling for Driver

2004-04-07 Thread Anne Wilson
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 Hello everyone,
 Im wanting to install my drivers for my ATI Radeon 9200SE ive bought
 recently on my mdk 9.2, and i have downloaded the appropriate rpm,
 but i need to tailor my Kernel to allow the driver to work. Now
 messing around with Kernel sounds complicated and i was wondering if
 it is actually doable by someone like me with little Linux knowledge.
 Would i be able to do it following instructions? Would it take too
 long?

 The error is documented here:
 http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4475.html

I've got a Radeon 9200 running with 9.2.  I got to the same point as you 
before I realised that Mandrake already has the flgx driver.  I think 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Pablo Vitoria
Hi,

I experienced exactly the same when updating from 2.4.22-26 to 2.4.22-28.
I searched the web and this list looking for answers and I found none. After
several attepmts to run 'lilo' with different options (all unsuccessful with
the same error message), I decided to be brave (I have a full back up of my
system) and rebooted. To my surprise, all went well, but the system started
with the old kernel. I guess this is because, as lilo failed, nothing was
changed. So I think the links in /boot are used by LILO to update the boot
loader, but the real paths to kernel, etc, are used in the boot loader.
Then I entered 'lilo -v' (after changing all links in /boot to point to the
new kernel), and this time there was no error. One more reboot and now I am
running the latest kernel.

Pablo


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- Original Message - 
From: Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: [newbie] Kernel update woes


| On advice from Mandrake Expert I have just installed the 2.4.22-28 kernel
to
| replace the 2.4.22-10 supplied with Mandrake 9.2 ProSuite.
| When the RPM installed via urpmi an error occurred at the /sbin/lilo
stage:
|   error regenerating lilo
| The lilo.conf looked OK so I ran /sbin/lilo again and it returned
|   Fatal: volid read error.
|
| Anybody know what that means?  It could be a disk corruption I suppose,
| something in the MBR sector, so I should be worried right?  I cannot risk
a
| reboot with things the way they are because several links in /boot
| have been reassigned in the direction of the new kernel, which would
probably
| lead to a kernel panic.  The next stage would be to try and restore the
old
| links.
|
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Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Kunath
I tried kernels using urpmi also, but have reverted to the way I did them for 
years...

Download and install the kernel sources for the new kernel.

Download the rpm's for whichever variety of kernel(s) you want. Logon as root 
and install the rpms.

Open etc/lilo.conf with an editor and make sure the stanza is there for every 
new kernel. 

Open a terminal as root and issue a lilo -v command.

Reboot and try out the new kernels.

If you are satisfied that the new kernel operates correctly, open lilo.conf 
again and change the default boot entry to the *label* of the kernel you want 
to boot as a default. As root, open a terminal and issue lilo -v

That's all there is to it.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade question

2004-03-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 10:21 pm, John A. Smith wrote:
-You might check out this site. I stumbled across this looking for the
-same info.
-
-http://ozzzy.dhis.org/kernel26.html
-
--john smith

Thanks, I'll look it over. I already knew how to install a new kernel, I just 
wanted to make sure that this kernel and source matched - the 1's kinda 
confused me but they are a match.

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Re: [newbie] kernel differences

2004-03-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 11:18 am, Stephanus Fengler wrote:
-Hi,
-
-can some tell me, what the difference between
-kernel-2.6.3.4mdk-1-1mdk.i586  and
-kernel-enterprise-2.6.3.4mdk-1-1mdk.i586 is?
-
-I couldn't find any information about that on mandrakes homepage.
-
-Thanks
-fengler.

Not sure, but don't the enterprise versions of the kernel allow access beyond 
the 1 gig memory level? (geared more towards heavy metal computers like 
rendering farms, big business, etc, etc...)

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Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.4

2004-03-30 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:19 am, Phil Savoie wrote:
 Hi All,

 Was wondering if there is a kernel 2.6.4 for Mandrake as I am
 pretty sure the pcmcia problem of not configuring my cardbus is
  kernel related.  I have successfully loaded kernel 2.4 with
 M10 and am happily networked.

 Thanks in advance for any tips you may provide.

 Phil

  Forward of a recent Thomas post to cooker. IIRC, he said in 
a subsequent post that a 9.x version would be on Club mirrors 
shortly.  This one (below) is for 10.0.   With either scenario 
you should make yourself aware of the dependancies and system 
changes the 2.6.x kernels require.  Even tho it appears you're 
already usin 2.6.3 (?)  you're probly good to go


It fixes so that the iteraid module actually works,
and adds the missing amd64 fixes...,
and a minor descriptions change...


http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk.nosrc.rpm




* Wed Mar 24 12:00:00 2004 Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk
- fix iteraid module includes
- change descriptions to Mandrakelinux
- fix amd64 rpm building
- add the missing drm_ioctl32 fixes for amd64

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade question

2004-03-30 Thread John A. Smith
You might check out this site. I stumbled across this looking for the 
same info.

http://ozzzy.dhis.org/kernel26.html

-john smith



Ronald J. Hall wrote:

I'm need to upgrade the kernel on my laptop. Its got the stock -10 kernel that 
locks up hard everytime I plug my webcam into it. Are these the latest 
matching set?

kernel-2.4.22.28mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-source-2.4.22-28mdk.i586.rpm
Thanks!

 




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Re: [newbie] kernel source (SOLVED)

2004-03-20 Thread Marco Verheul
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 16:32, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 04:15, Marco Verheul wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  During the installation of a Cisco VPN client I get the following
  question:
  
  Directory containing linux kernel source code
  
  Can anybody tell me where/how I can that in mdk 9.1?
  
  Marco
 
 If you HAVE the kernel sources installed, they should live under
 /usr/src/linux
 -OR-
 /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/
 
 stephen kuhn - owner

Thanks Stephen,

It seemed I didn't have them installed. Found them on the cd's and
installed the lot.

Cheers, Marco
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Re: [newbie] Kernel source for 10.0 Community?

2004-03-19 Thread Glenn
On Friday 19 March 2004 17:00, Mark G. Spencer wrote:


 How do I install the kernel source for 10.0 Community?  Has Mandrake left
 the kernel source off the ISO's again?

 Thanks for the advice,

 Mark

I found the source for 2.6.3-4 on one at one of the cooker mirrors.  You're 
correct, it doesn't seem to be on any of 10.0CE disks.

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RE: [newbie] Kernel source for 10.0 Community?

2004-03-19 Thread Mark G. Spencer
Actually .. Maybe I was wrong.  I used RPMDrake and searched for kernel ..
I installed what looked like the correct kernel source from CD 3.  I just
compiled the latest Orinoco wireless driver and am rebooting to see if it
worked.

Mark 

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel source for 10.0 Community?

On Friday 19 March 2004 17:00, Mark G. Spencer wrote:


 How do I install the kernel source for 10.0 Community?  Has Mandrake 
 left the kernel source off the ISO's again?

 Thanks for the advice,

 Mark

I found the source for 2.6.3-4 on one at one of the cooker mirrors.  You're
correct, it doesn't seem to be on any of 10.0CE disks.

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