[newbie] TightVNC

2003-10-28 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi

Does anyone know if it's possible to set vnc up so that the desktop I 
see on my pc is the same as the one I see on VNC

Currently the only solution is having to seperate X servers running

I use the following command:

vncserver :1 -httpd /usr/share/vnc/classes 

to get vnc up and running

Any ideas anyone?

Mike


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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Either in hte console put a  after the comand ie

amsn 

Or press alt + F2 and type in amsn in the window that appears

Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal session
that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do anything with
that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.
Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a term
window just sitting around useless?
-A

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 10:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I downloaded aMSN and got it working okay.  It crashed about 30
seconds after I logged in for the first time.  Had to kill -9
the process.  We'll see how it goes.
It was easy to install..

   



 



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[newbie] MP3 to OGG converter

2003-10-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
What's the best way to make my MP3s into OGG files?

Thanks

Mike

PS I really like GUIs


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Re: [newbie] MP3 to OGG converter

2003-10-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Todd Slater wrote:

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:50:44PM +, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

What's the best way to make my MP3s into OGG files?

Thanks
   

With the caveat that you're going from one lossy format to another--can
you live with that? 

One way would be to use XMMS with the diskwriter plugin. That'll write
the mp3's out to wav, then you could convert from wav to ogg with
oggenc.
If I had the sources I'd just rip them anew.

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What should I use to rip them?

Also converting to wav will just mean a low quality wav.

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[newbie] FireBird and ThunderBird Interaction

2003-10-03 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hmm

I'm trying to get Thunderbird to open links in Firebird (currently they
dpn't do nything when clicked)
Anyone know how to do this?

Thanks

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[newbie] Shorewall Config

2003-09-30 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi

Could someone please tell me how to configure shorewall to allow a
windows pc to use the linux net connection and also keep port 4662 (tcp)
and 4672 (udp) for aMule
If I use DrakGw it knocks off aMule

Thanks for any advice you can give

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Re: [newbie] USB card reader

2003-09-29 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Add the line

options scsi-mod max_scsi_luns=255

into your /etc/modules.conf file

And hey presto it will work

Mike

Walt wrote:

I use lexarmedia usb 2.0 multi card reader. I have no problems at all
connecting to it.
Walt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mooney
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] USB card reader
Are there any recommendations for linux-
compatible card readers; 5- or 6- in 1 types?
Looking around can find only single varieties, e.g. compact flash only

Thanks

Paul m





 



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[newbie] Repartitioning

2003-09-28 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi is ther ean easy was to repartition your linux hard drive?

I used to have a windows partition, which I've now deleted. I'd like to 
use this free space thogh for my / and /home partitions

How would I go about doing this?

Thanks

Mike


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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-11 Per discussione Michael Lothian

n Thursday 11 September 2003 09:36 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

One thing to keep in mind about mounted drives, especially with removable 
media is that once you mount the drive and open it up with any application, 
the drive will stay active until the application is closed.  So, if I open a 
konqueror window and navigate to the removable drive, even if I then move 
back to a hard drive partition, the removable device will stay busy until I 
close Konqueror.

If I open a command prompt, cd to the /mnt/removable device and then cd back 
to /home/user, the device will still stay busy until I close the prompt.  
That is in the GUI.

It does the same thing with a CD or DVD device.  Not sure if this is material 
but thought I would mention it just...

I thought that supermoung-ng was supposed to fix this?


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Re: [newbie] DVD encryption

2003-09-10 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Have you thought about upgrading the dreaded firmware?

Mike

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Tuesday 09 September 2003 19:50, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

OK start xine from the CLI and then when you press the dvd button have a
look at the error message brings up
Oh and just to check you have all the dvdread dvdnax and css stuff don't
you?
Mike
   

The only way to get proper error messages IS the CLI. It reads like I stated 
with the crux: decss can't open MRL on dvd:
Can't mount the the damn thing either with mount /mnt/cdrom.

Yup, all the stuf is installed. I can read most of my encrypted cd's like the 
Matrix, Lord of the rings, Final Fantasie,Jackie Chan et all...just 
not these 3 (2 of those I bought a few days ago and the 3rd one could indeed 
be broken). Disturbing is that I could and have looked at those 2 new ones 
and now cannot. Guhhh!

Like I said: driving me nuts..after flushing my head through the toilet 
on the expert list I've now started biting the dog (the cat got away).

BTW I noticed a kernel (2.4.22-1mdk) message about udf: iso9660 not being 
supported, so I got rid of that(the udf: part). Now I can eject my cdrom 
again using eject cdrom..some progress after all:o)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-10 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Think this is a cross between a hotplug error and a removable source 
being treated as a harddisk

You shouldn't need to run diskdrake each time, hotplug should do it all 
automatically.

Prolem is hotplug doesn't relise anything has changed until the whole 
device is removed and reinsterted. People with proper USB harddisks / 
Pen Disks (or whatever) won't have this problem.

It's a bit like a disk in a floppy drive bing treated as a harddisk. 
Your having to change the whole drive to change 1 disk.

Mike

RichardA wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:39:15 +0100, Michael Lothian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Have you tried removing the whole card reader, changing cards and 
plugging the card reader back in?
   

That works! I unplug, run diskdrake, replug, run diskdrake again, and I
can see a different card. I think having to run diskdrake may be a
different problem, by the way.
 

Think it may have something to do with linux thinging it's a usb 
harddisk rather than a removable media.
   

Surely this just happens to me? If it was a 'feature' of linux, it would
be common knowledge, no?
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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-10 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I have a 6 in 1 card reader (well it has 4 slots init) sda, sdb, sdc and 
sdd are the devices the extra number on the end is the partition on the 
disk.

Since all card reader use the scsi module they are treated as hard 
disks. The problem is we can remove the card without removing the whole 
drive and nothing seems to be set up to deal with this.

It's very annoying, and to be honest having to type in options scsi-mod 
max_scsi_luns=255 into my modules.conf very annoying. Why can't 
harddrake do this for me?

It is a very worrying state of affairs when somehing works better under 
windows than in linux. Especally in something so simple.

I'd be interested to know how apple implemented it as they use some form 
of BSD underneath the pretty pictures. And it works great on the mac

Mike

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 3:50 pm, RichardA wrote:
 

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:12:48 +0100, Anne Wilson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

It certainly sounds ok.  I'm clean out of ideas, atm, Richard
 

Me too, Anne. I've a better idea of why this is happening (the card
reader doesn't change when the card does, so no updated card info).
Can other people read more than one sdram card without unplugging
the whole card reader?
If the problem is mine, I'll keep looking for a fix.
If this is the state of the art for usb removable storage, in 2003,
then Linux is NOT ready for the desktop.
   

I don't know the answer to that Richard.  I don't use an sdram 
cardreader.  I guess that part of the problem is the huge range of 
hardware we use for removable storage, so we don't always find 
someone else with experience of the problem.  If you don't get an 
answer here, try asking the expert list.  Some of the people are the 
same as here, but there are others too, and one of them might know.

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Re: [newbie] This is just sickening

2003-09-10 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Not that I'm saying wht's happened is right but does anyone think this 
story is a bit emotive?

I mean it's all abou this poor little 12 year old and is totally 
ignoring the face that her mother probably got more songs from it than 
her daughter did.

Me is quite glad me is in the UK

Had it been here the mother would have done comunity service or been 
fined £100 or sometbing. Assuming of course it even got to court.

Mike

HaywireMac wrote:

Quote:

Twelve-year-old Brianna Lahara's love for TV theme songs, Christina
Aguilera and the nursery song If You're Happy and You Know It made her a
target of the multibillion-dollar U.S. recording industry. Yesterday,
the seventh grader became the industry's first legal trophy in a massive
crackdown when she promised never to share songs over the Internet again
and her mother agreed to pay $2,000 (U.S.).
Source:

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030909.ucdcd0910/BNStory/Business/

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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hence why I use supermoung-ng it doesn't have this issue.

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:38 pm, RichardA wrote:
 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 22:42:56 +0100, Anne Wilson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Try running mounting auto, rather than supermount, and use
KwikDisk.
 

Tried with and without supermount. And doesn't KwikDisk just
automate the mount command?
   

KwikDisk is useful if you want to mount/umount when combined with 
automount.  It may not have a bearing on your problem, but it's one 
thing you could try.

 

I don't think this is just a case of supermount being broken. The
previous filesystem to be mounted seems to be'remembered' after it
has been unmounted, which stops a second one being mounted.
   

I don't think supermount is broken.  It's just that if it knows about 
anything, anywhere on your system that is acting as a file manager at 
that moment it will not release the lock.  That's why it is essential 
to shut down all Konqueror windows, or similar, even if they are 
looking elsewhere.

Hope that makes it clearer.

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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Have you tried removing the whole card reader, changing cards and 
plugging the card reader back in?

Think it may have something to do with linux thinging it's a usb 
harddisk rather than a removable media.

Mike

RichardA wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:53:59 +0100, Michael Lothian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Unfortunatly I can't find my other mmc card to test any of this out.

Could you tel me what's in your /dev/scsi all the way do disk for each
card  when they're actually working
Also has anyone figured out how to get supermount devices to appear on
hte desktop as the options in KDe Control Centre don't allow it
Thanks

Mike
   

I just have this in /dev/scsi:

$ ls /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/   
cd

Then I put a card in the cardreader and run diskdrake. It appears on
host1:
$ ls /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/
disc  part1
I don't know if this shows an extra partition, or is 'disk' the emulated
scsi disk?
$ ls -l /dev/sda1
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   34 Sep  9 12:36 /dev/sda1 -
scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
$ ls -l /dev/sda
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Sep  9 12:36 /dev/sda -
scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
etc/fstab points to /dev/dsa1:

/dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
It still seems to me the dynamic filesystem under /dev isn't
being cleared up when the card is taken out.
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Re: [newbie] DVD encryption

2003-09-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
OK start xine from the CLI and then when you press the dvd button have a 
look at the error message brings up

Oh and just to check you have all the dvdread dvdnax and css stuff don't 
you?

Mike

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Tuesday 09 September 2003 13:13, Anne Wilson wrote:
 

Glad you got it going, but I really don't understand this.  My dvd
drive is my main reader, and it's set to supermount.  I don't have
any trouble reading Warner Bros. films on it with xine, which I
couldn't do before installed dvdcss.
Anne
   

It just a few that will not, from any specific manufacturor either. They're 
all different.

You're not going to believe this, I certainly don't want to!

This morning I rebooted the machine, checked the xine...sure enough still 
worked, the films loaded.

Reading the mails I thought I'd check one of my older DVD's that wouldn't load 
(Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense, how apropiate): Well it wouldn't.
Disabled supermount, tried again: It wouldn't.
rebooted: Still wouldn't.
Stuck in the ones that did work: They wouldn't!!
Rebooted thrice (supermounted enabled and disabled) and I'm still back at 
square one i.e. still can't read 'em.snarling at the dog and the cat now.

This is driving me round the bend:o(
I can hear the drive try to spin up, xine (or any of the others) can't seem to 
read the MRL list.

Gr,
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Re: [newbie] Requiem Motherload and C3PO sluggestions

2003-09-09 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I don't see why not. You already get pens that take enotes on what your 
writting normally. All you'd need is for it to beep when it writes 
something it doesn't recognise as a word and pop the alternatives on a 
lcd screen on the side.

PS. When she invents it I wan't some of the royalties (unless of couse 
its an opensource design lol)

Mike

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My daughter's going to make it rich - she's going to invent a pencil 
with a spellchecker on g  She'll be the first to use it too.

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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
The only problem with my SB Live with mandrake was 9.1 thinking it was 
an Audigy,

Hardly Creatives fault. But out of interest what is the linux users 
choice for decent audio?

Mike

ed tharp wrote:

On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 16:40, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

   For Intel cpu's, you're on your own. IMO, there hasn't been a 
decent chipset for Intel processors since the good ol' 440BX. 
Probly best to use an Intel Retail (not OEM) board for P4's to be 
on the safe side.

 

Let's be honest. Nvidea, Intel and AOL are all just as bad as Windows. 
Just for slightly different reasons

Mike ;-)

   

you can add creative labs (SoundBlaster)

 

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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian


Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 08 Sep 2003 6:33 am, Heather/Femme wrote:

 

ya... knife or something will work... scrape off the crap.  Alcohol
on a qtip works sometimes.  Let it dry of course.  Grease it up 
way you go.
Funky Femmes
   

OK - I'll try to whip up the courage g

 

Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound

Look here for some ideas 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_Materials_27.html 
it even has the cleaner for your processor.

Also where are you in the world (me tries not to make a Carmen Sandiego 
joke)

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Re: [newbie] Requiem Motherload and C3PO sluggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Where as everyone else north of there wouln't be seen south of it lol

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 08 Sep 2003 12:07 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 

I think it can all be summed up with She'll be roight, mate.

Works wonders.

No worries

A magical phrase of economical verbiage.

   

I can identify with that g  Of course that was a racist attack Imade 
on Aussies, since much of Britain also believes that there is no life 
north of Watford Gap (which is not that far from London).

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Re: [newbie] Requiem Motherload and C3PO sluggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Well thats a very irish thing to say ;-)

Especally since you can keep going east :-P

Mike

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 21:29, Anne Wilson wrote:
 

I can identify with that g  Of course that was a racist attack Imade 
on Aussies, since much of Britain also believes that there is no life 
north of Watford Gap (which is not that far from London).

Anne
   

...and I always reckoned that there wasn't any life east of Ireland...

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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I remember seeing a ausie comedian at the fringe.

She said Well if they sent all the criminals to australlia, where 
there's constant good weather, sand and sea, then just imagine how great 
the motherland must be

Then she arrived in London. Poor thing lol

Mike ;-)

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 19:12, Michael Lothian wrote:

 

Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound

Look here for some ideas 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_Materials_27.html
it even has the cleaner for your processor.

Also where are you in the world (me tries not to make a Carmen Sandiego 
joke)

Mike
   

Why not just use some Colgate toothpaste or Crest? What ever happened to
Superglue? And why just stop there? Check out this link:
http://www.dansdata.com/sbs3.htm

BTW, she lives in Pommieland with the Pommies - otherwise known as
Untitled Kingdom or Brutish Isles; overcrowded overpopulated
overpriced cold grey rainy - Oooo, what a nice place to live!
Jellied Eels and washed up musicians...hmmm...

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Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Now if I could just get o2 and bts websites working in mozilla I'd be a 
much happier chappy

I like using one browser for everything not haveing to use konquoror for 
stuff.

Mike

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:18 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 11:52:48 -0700

Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   

and then email the
company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad
thing.
 

This is very important. It is *nice* that there is a workaround
with Konq or Opera, but it is not the answer. These institutions
must be told in very clear terms that it is a violation of a
customer's right to choose their own software when they require IE.
There is no technical reason to require it (well, shit, quite the
opposite really), any of the browsers available out there are
capable of the necessary encryption levels.
   

Use whatever works.  It goes against the grain to pretend to use IE, 
but if that's what it takes, use it.

After that, I agree that you should complain to the bank.  Some do 
listen, even if they don't always seem to.  Recently I discovered a 
serious flaw in the design of HSBC's on-line banking, when used with 
Mozilla.  I spoke to the Mozilla programmers, who helped me identify 
the problem, then alerted the bank.  They started with the stock 'We 
don't support Linux, or Mozilla', but went on to say that they had 
passed my comments to their programmers, for consideration in the 
next update.  I really expected that to be the end of the matter, but 
last week, around a month after I told them about it, the fault had 
disappeared.  They obviously had tackled the problem.

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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
HAve you checked that the second card doens't have any other partitions 
on it.

You can use mtools to check I think.

I remember I has problems with an MMC card on my MP3 player cos it had a 
tiny partition at the end and it refused to work

Alternativly you could set up up to use super mount, which would negate 
the need to use the mount command altogether.

Mike

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 04:27, RichardA wrote:
 

Hi,

I can mount an sdram card using a USB device (camera or card reader),
but once I've looked at one, if I unmount it, and try to mount another:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ mount /mnt/removable/
mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
I can still mount the original card at this point.

I don't believe the error message, I think it's something to do with
autofs, or devfs, not deleting something dynamically. Or something.
But is there a fix?

Richard
   

fam is doing this - you can disable it as a system service - or stop it
from a term - either which, once you stop fam, then you'll be able to
slap cards'n'cd's without that ghost effect...
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Re: [newbie] Requiem Motherload and C3PO sluggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Which is neither here nor there

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 21:57, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Well thats a very irish thing to say ;-)

Especally since you can keep going east :-P

Mike
   

You can only go east until it turns west, laddie.
Ha! Got y'there, now didn't Oi?
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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I assume not. Or rather I've not seen any since version 7 or 8.

If you use the newest kernel it uses the supermoung-ng patch so it works 
really well and doesn't get con-fuss-ed when you still have Konquerer 
open and your trying to eject a CD

Try using the latest mandrake kernel or the tmb mandrake kernel and make 
sure your /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab read something like

none /mnt/mmc supermount 
rw,sync,dev=/dev/sdb1,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 
0 0  (for mtab)

and

none /mnt/mmc supermount 
dev=/dev/sdb1,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage= 850,umask=0,sync 
0 0  (for fstab)

Where /mnt/mmc is the mount point and /dev/sdb1 is the partition on the disk

Mike

RichardA wrote:

On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:27:09 +0100, Michael Lothian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Have you checked that the second card doens't have any other
partitions on it.
   

Either card works, as long as it is used first.

 

Alternativly you could set up up to use super mount, which would
negate the need to use the mount command altogether.
   

Like many people, I had problems with supermount. I've just turned it
back on, and I'm still having the same problem. No icons appear on the
desktop automatically, though. Should they?
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Re: [newbie] Mounting USB mass storage devices

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Unfortunatly I can't find my other mmc card to test any of this out.

Could you tel me what's in your /dev/scsi all the way do disk for each 
card  when they're actually working

Also has anyone figured out how to get supermount devices to appear on 
hte desktop as the options in KDe Control Centre don't allow it

Thanks

Mike

RichardA wrote:

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 22:42:56 +0100, Anne Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Try running mounting auto, rather than supermount, and use KwikDisk.
   

Tried with and without supermount. And doesn't KwikDisk just automate
the mount command?
I don't think this is just a case of supermount being broken. The
previous filesystem to be mounted seems to be'remembered' after it has
been unmounted, which stops a second one being mounted.
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Re: [newbie] DVD encryption

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Once the divx codecs are installed you should be able to play them with 
any player ie xine or mplayer

You may also want to ownload the win32 codecs too

What's with the Queers For Fears  stuff?

Mike

Heather/Femme wrote:

On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:04:32 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
smuck
 

Hmm...that _is weird._

Have you installed the divx4linux from plf?

ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/cooker/i586/divx4linux-20020418-3plf.i586.rpm

I honestly don't know if it'll do anything and since I don't have a 
DVD-ROM in this box I'm at the end of any suggestions that may help; 
sorry.

Best of luck Harm!

Charlie
- -- 
   

K for stupidity  giggles, I loaded this thing.  Now how the fuck do I
use it?
I have DIVX stuff I wanna play.

Or  Do I need my proper ATI drivers loaded too???

.. help? :D

Queers For Fears 

 



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Re: [newbie] Requiem Motherload and C3PO sluggestions

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Was it Clinton or Bush who asked Charlotte Church is Wales was a state 
or England?

Ah but they make up names like that train station just so they are the 
longest words!

Mike

Aron Smith wrote:

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 14:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
 

On Monday 08 Sep 2003 4:24 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
   

I can't answer that, we could have a flame war on our hands.

Tony (chuckling in Manchester)

 

And Manchester's even wetter than Holmfirth, so you need a sense of 
humour g

Anne
   

And in Whales you need one hellva spell checker g

 



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Re: [newbie] Expert list

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian

2) divert newbie posts to a Newbie folder.
everything else comes into my Inbox, so I don't think I'm missing
anything relevant. 
Beats me!
 

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Re: [newbie] DVD encryption

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian

Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love.  I'm
corrupting their band name.  shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not?
 

The word and? springs to mind


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Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian

Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in about:config in the address bar.
-Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String
-Enter general.useragent.override as the name.
-Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or 
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.


Wow that page is really cool!

Do you know if there is a way of addig extra headers doing this

As it would make it easier for me sending out e-mails to a university 
mailing list (which uses major domo and mojor cool) I just need to add 
an approved line into some e-mails I send out

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Wow even windows update works

However the Sun  Java VM complains and says I should install the one for 
IE lol

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Eric Huff wrote:

I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in
on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool
  


I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the
company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing.
Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them.  I think Mozilla
will do it, too.
Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in about:config in the address bar.
-Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String
-Enter general.useragent.override as the name.
-Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or 
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string.
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Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows

2003-09-08 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hmm thw windows update doesn't get very far

BT websit enow works though. O2 I'm still having dificulties. I thik it 
has something to do with security. Someone once told me that Mozilla 
lacks the comercial stuff requred to do this (hince why it works in 
Netscaoe)

That make any sence?

Mike

Michael Lothian wrote:

Wow even windows update works

However the Sun  Java VM complains and says I should install the one 
for IE lol

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Eric Huff wrote:

I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in
on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool
  


I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the
company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing.
Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them.  I think Mozilla
will do it, too.
Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in about:config in the address bar.
-Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String
-Enter general.useragent.override as the name.
-Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or 
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string.
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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Your best bet is going to be a motherboard that uses a via chipset (as 
apposed to an nvidea one)

As these are very well supported under linux. Maybe your best going for 
a KT400 instead of the newer KT600 as linux is always a little behind in 
supporting new features.

As most motherboard manufacturers stick to the standard chipset from via 
and don't substitute them for others everything should work out the box. 
It's only when the manufacturer decides that sticking some cheep 
network/sound/name_of_device_here chip instead that people have 
problems in linux.

Also people can have trouble with Nvideas stuff as they require drivers 
which aren't GPLd (IFAIK) which means if you try and change your kernel 
without setting up your drivers again linux won't boot up :(

I think that was everything. In short buy a very popular board that uses 
a via chipset as more linux people will use them and write drivers for 
them. ;)

Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

09/07/03

Hello All,

The first time I installed MDK 9.1, it was in a dual-boot with Win95B and
I put the files on the slave drive.  The slave drive died.  Then the next
2 1/2 months using all available free time was spent trying to get through
another successful install.  Didn't happen.  And the first message that is
never printed in the logs, but flashes by the screen when first attempting
to install from the CD-Rom was:  BIOS data check unsuccessful
So what I'm doing now is going through the Mandrake site's list of
approved hardware to get something from the Certified list.  Shouldn't be
any problems with that hardware, right?
Is it true that the *only* Mandrake Certified motherboard is the Tyan
Tiger MPX ???  This is a dual-processor board.  Anyone know if you can run
it with a single processor?
I believe there were only 7 Mandrake Tested motherboards.  I'm running
down those right now to see what they're like.
Regards,
The Other Stephen Stubbs
Champaign, IL
 

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[newbie] Wine setup

2003-09-07 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi

I've been through the howto on wiki but I'm still having difficulties

I copyed the required dlls from my XP installation and used the latest 
version of wine from where the artical recommended.

I managed to install Kazaa (some of the fonts were a bit funny) but it 
would just gointo debug mode when I tried to run it

I then tried copying all my dll files over into wine but that had even 
more dire consquences ie kazaa wouldn't even install

So to the people who have wine working:

What dlls did you use. Which folers did you put them in (system or 
system32) and what did you pop into your wine configuration file?

Also is it recomened to use winex from transgaming for games? Or is 
there an alternative?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Per discussione Michael Lothian


For Intel cpu's, you're on your own. IMO, there hasn't been a 
decent chipset for Intel processors since the good ol' 440BX. 
Probly best to use an Intel Retail (not OEM) board for P4's to be 
on the safe side.

Let's be honest. Nvidea, Intel and AOL are all just as bad as Windows. 
Just for slightly different reasons

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Re: [newbie] libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0

2003-09-02 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Use http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ to update your sources for the 
version of MAndrake your using

Rememer to add the plf one as this is where the version of xmule is kept

MAndrake can't include it as it would be a violation of something or 
other so plf hosts them instead unoffically

Mike

HaywireMac wrote:

On Mon,  1 Sep 2003 18:17:42 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 

i tried to start xmule. following error is desplayed: 

xmule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 

i installed libwxgtk2.4-2.4.0-3mdk, nothing changed. is there a
configuration problem? 
   

how did you install xmule? from source? if so, it is probably not seeing
the shared library where it expects them to be...
in the source dir of xmule, run ./configure --help for options which may
allow you to specify the locations of said shared libraries.
if xmule is to access the donkey network, I would recommend MLDonkey
instead, there are mandrake rpms avail thru urpmi, and it works
flawlessly.
 



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[newbie] The Logs for Mandrake

2003-08-30 Per discussione Michael Lothian
 
Hi I was wondering where the logs in mandrake were kept. 
 
As I have no idea. 
 
The one I'm lookin for spesificly is a hardware one, and also where would the 
startup of services be logged? 
 
Thanks 
 
Mike 

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Re: [newbie] wishing for mandrake 2.6 test3 kernel

2003-08-28 Per discussione Michael Lothian

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/initscripts-7.06-19mdk.i586.rpm 

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-2.4.22.0.5.2tmb_mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdk.i586.rpm 



is the source really necessary? I have no idea how big these downloads 
are so I don't dare do it yet :P


18 Megs for the kernel and 40Megs for the source. The source isn't 
necessary.

I think that's the low latancy patch. Which this kernel includes. 
Hence why these kernels  (eventually) become the Multimedia ones.


woow!! Yes ... so you're saying this contains the low latency thing? 
YEY! I'm all into Multimedia. Got any idea if Mandrake 9.2 will 
include anything like this (a kernel with this support)?


The multimedia kernel is included in mandrake. It's basically an old 
version of the tmb kernel. If you ask the author nicly he'll aply 
patches to the kernel that will help get your hardware working

For me it was the latest DVB software for my Digital TV card and the 
Bluetooth patch.

Let me know how you get on

thanks a LOT!!
I wish I could do urpmi some package and instead of it downloading it 
would just give me an exact list (maybe in a file) of neat addresses 
like you gave me so I could download anything like that:)
   so after downloading  installing these I should be set an the only 
thing I'd have to do is select a different thing at boot time and 
nothing else in Linux would change? Wow!
   Now I'm afraid these packages will require a lot of dependencies 
... in order to find that out I'd like to do something like 'urpmi 
kernel-tmb' .. but don't know exactly what to write as there is no 
'kernel-tmb' package :P 


Download the files (the first 2) then type in urpmi exact file name 
for each one. I'm going to send you kernel-utils hitch is 17k as I can't 
seem to find it at the moment.

All the dependancies for the kernel are in kernel utils.

That's it.

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Re: [newbie] wishing for mandrake 2.6 test3 kernel

2003-08-27 Per discussione Michael Lothian


If you were wanting to play  arround with kernels try the tmb ones


what's 'tmb' 


It's the initial of the guy who compiles it Thomas Buckland

Just update your kernel-utils and possibelyou init scrips from the 
cooker rpms (from memory that is - on my win doze box atm)


could you please give me more detailed instructions or point me to 
somewhere where I could find them? 


ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/initscripts-7.06-19mdk.i586.rpm
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-2.4.22.0.5.2tmb_mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdk.i586.rpm
If you install these files

Then type lilo it should all work

   what I'm looking for is that dreamy kernel feature which I hear 
will have that magic property of making Linux react faster (more like 
Windows, in giving higher priority to starting programs  running user 
programs)
   greets, 
I think that's the low latancy patch. Which this kernel includes. Hence 
why these kernels  (eventually) become the Multimedia ones.

Let me know how you get on

Mike


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[newbie] Opinions on Software required

2003-08-27 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi everybody! (Sound like that guy from the simpsons)

I was just wondering what the best software (preferably one with a nice 
gui) to do the following things...

Convert CDs into Ogg files

Convert DVDs to DivX (or something similar)

Play N64 Roms

Play GameBoy (Advance) Roms

Oh yes and whats the  best way to get windows software working under 
linux? I've tried wine but I never can seem to get the blasterin thing 
working.

Thanks in advance

Mike


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Re: [newbie] wishing for mandrake 2.6 test3 kernel

2003-08-26 Per discussione Michael Lothian
If you were wanting to play  arround with kernels try the tmb ones

Just update your kernel-utils and possibelyou init scrips from the 
cooker rpms (from memory that is - on my win doze box atm)

Then get the latest tmb kernel from http://www.netikka.net/tmb/Cooker/ 
or it may even be on the contribs part of cooker under a slightly 
different name.

Type in lilo (as root) so it updates your lilo stuff so at boot up you 
can select you new kernel.

I've tried both the 2.6 kernel and the tmb kernel. The 2.6 one hardly 
works with any hardware atm as none of the modules are there yet. The 
tmb kernel rocks though. It has DVB support, bluetooth support, decent 
supermount support and lots more.

I like this kernel

Mike ;-)

Anarky wrote:

Charles A Edwards wrote:

You have added a 'cooker' source but are not running cooker.

what is a 'cooker'? I don't really understand the system. Isn't cooker 
simply the newest stuff?

You are forcing urpmi to validate all the actual and relative provides
for both the pkgs you have installed and that which you wish to install,
not to mention the fact that this rpm was not built to run on any
platform except 9.2
 

ummm .. really?

You can use # urpmi --allow-nodeps --allow-force 
kernel-2.6.0-0.test3.1mdk
but I would strongly discourage this

The 2.6.0-0.test is not a Newbie friendly kernel.
 

and I was so excited that Mandrake was finally a distro in which I 
could change my kernel .. I ... who don't know anything about kernels 
... and am not a linux pro ... sounded really cool.
   Besides .. the reason that pushed me was that I heard that if 
installing via this rpm I would just get a safe new lilo option and 
could choose from there ... and thus I would be able to test what I 
heard, that these new kernels are supposed to give more priority to 
certain processes and thus make my linux appear to be running smoother.

If you are determined to try it I would strongly suggest you install
either the 9.2 beta2, or the RC1,
what does RC1 mean? Where can I get these? I've looked on the web .. I 
found aproximative figures .. do you by any chance know an exact date 
when the final 9.2 will come out?

which should be out today and then use
urpmi to install the test kernel or dl the kernel.src.rpm and rebuild it
for your current system.
I've never installed a src.rpm ... is it painfull? what would one have 
to do ?

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Re: [newbie] Unreal Tournament GOTY Install

2003-08-25 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Try using either the multimedia kernel or the tmb kernel it has the 
patch for supermount that actually make it work!!

Mike

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

HaywireMac wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:41:18 -0400
Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 

If you want it back just do supermount -i enable.  That should do it.
  


Duh, I know, I thought of that while I was just taking a shower.

You know yer a geek when yer not...you know...in the shower, yer
thinking about supermount!
Cheers!

I know exactly what your talking about.  :-D

If it couldn't make me money it would be sad.


Man!  My posts are flying to list now.  This is a pleasant change.  I 
wonder how long it will last.



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Re: [newbie] SCO outside the US

2003-08-22 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Well I am getting rather sick of the SCO

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 12:00, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Just out of interest how much weight does SCOs complaints outside the US?

As they seem to be charging everyone in US dollars, or is the SCO to 
arrigant (like most US companies) to consider anything outside the US to 
be of any importance?

From a brit who likes not having to pay for his OS

Mike ;-)
   

Look mate, $199 USD roughly comes up to 100 schooners for Guiness. Maybe
you should consider paying SCO in schooners of Guiness instead of USD?
And of course they're arrogant - most US based businesses can't be
bothered to figure out the monetary conversion of other countries and
they're generally of the mindset that there ain't nothing outside of the
US except for trinkets and beads and 15 foot stone wheels used for
money...(all this coming from an ex-yank living in Oz, ay?)
Else, if you don't want to give SCO USD or Guiness, you can charge for
body fluids. Body fluids are rather expensive; you can drain the 
contents of your stomach into a zip-lock bag and send that to'em - it's
obviously worthwhile to a scientist or biologist somewhere - there would
be enough value placed on it with them - so why not with SCO?

That's at least another option - so now you have USD, Guiness, or a bag
of puke. Which is the easiest for you to come up with?
 



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Re: [newbie] ATTENTION: SCO and the FTC

2003-08-21 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Is there anything people outside the US can be doing?

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

From the RedHat list: Let's get back...
-Forwarded Message-
Subject: [staph] SCO and the FTC
Date: 21 Aug 2003 09:44:59 -0400
[From a Slashdot posting]

I just got off the phone with the FTC. If everyone calls and complains 
then the chances they will investigate SCO goes up. They look for 
patterns. In other words, if the majority of their calls are about SCO 
then they will investigate. It is time to take the Slashdot effect to
the 
phones.

These are the key points to make:

-You did not purchase software from SCO
-The company that produced your software did not purchase it from SCO
-It was not marketed or packaged by SCO
-Despite this SCO is asking for $199 from home users (You) and $699 from
business for 1 CPU
They will ask for your name, phone number, address etc. That is mostly
to 
verify your identity and citizenship I think.

Here is the number:

1-877-382-4357 option 4

They are nice and listen well. The lady I talked to even took the time
to 
get a better understanding of what Linux is. The best quote from her
You 
didn't purchase it from them and they want you to pay them? That sounds 
crazy.
--
Call FTC 1-877-382-4357 opt 4
-You didn't buy from SCO
-Vendor didn't either
-They want $199 ...

   Here's some information that may help. They actually asked
for 
this info:

   The SCO Group
   355 South 520 West
   Suite 100
   Lindon, Utah 84042
   801-765-4999 phone

   The guy I spoke with was actually somewhat familiar with
what 
Linux is. One of his first questions was how this company got involved 
with me, which my answer was Well, that's the problem. They didn't.

   He eventually asked if SCO has contacted me personally with 
regard to this situation, which they have not. Don't lie to them. Be 
completely truthful. At the end of the call I got a reference number,
and 
he said that if SCO does contact me personally, I should call back and
let 
them know.

   It was very easy to do, and took about 5 minutes of my time.
The recording while I wated for the counselor to pick up the phone did
say 
that the FTC does track trends in complaints. If we get enough people to
complain, something will happen. Please, take a few minutes and call! 

 



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[newbie] SCO outside the US

2003-08-21 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Just out of interest how much weight does SCOs complaints outside the US?

As they seem to be charging everyone in US dollars, or is the SCO to 
arrigant (like most US companies) to consider anything outside the US to 
be of any importance?

From a brit who likes not having to pay for his OS

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Re: [newbie] Java programming question?

2003-08-19 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I once got this error in windows when I didn't have my PATH set propperly

Some info here

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html

I remember in windows I had to set the CLASSPATH=.   That's a fullstop 
(period to americans I think)

Mike

Patrick Coffey wrote:

Hi,
   I'm still relatively new to linux so I was hoping someone might 
know a quick answer to this question, when I try to run a very simple 
program I wrote it gives me the error:

Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: lab1/java

It didn't give me any errors when I compiled it, so I figure it must 
be something I'm doing wrong. Any thoughts?

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Re: [newbie] browsing cache

2003-08-18 Per discussione Michael Lothian
This would be a browser feature.

Maybe bring up the cached version then check periodically for a newer 
version on both the proxy and via Direct Conection if it finds 
something new trigger a refresh perhaps?

This could probably be done in mozilla/firebird as an addin (like the 
spellchecker and popup suppressor are)

I however have no experience in this so get someone who has a clue to 
make it for ya

Mike ;-)

I think he's asking for a program that will throw the cached version 
of the website up on the screen immediately while in the background 
the caching program checks to see if the page is current.  If it finds 
that the cached version is out of date it downloads the new page and 
automatically makes the browser refresh the page. If the page is 
current-- you're set.  If not-- you get the auto-refresh.

Not a bad idea if you don't mind running the risk of looking at stale 
data for a second or two.

To do it in Linux there would need to be some kind of way for squid to 
trigger a refresh in the browser if the page is not current.  How 
would one do that, and would it be breaking any fscking patents?



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Re: [newbie] browsing cache

2003-08-18 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Yes your right of course and I belive squids is intelligent enought not 
to need that option. You'd just need something to check for newer 
version on the squids server and maybe something to stimulate the squids 
server into getting the latest version of a site more frequently.

A very tired an aught to be sleeping

Mike

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:

This would be a browser feature.

Maybe bring up the cached version then check periodically for a newer 
version on both the proxy and via Direct Conection if it finds 
something new trigger a refresh perhaps? 


Direct connection to the site would negate the benefits of the proxy, 
and would be impossible in some setups where the proxy is the only 
link to the Internet.



This could probably be done in mozilla/firebird as an addin (like the 
spellchecker and popup suppressor are)

I however have no experience in this so get someone who has a clue to 
make it for ya

Mike ;-)

I think he's asking for a program that will throw the cached version 
of the website up on the screen immediately while in the background 
the caching program checks to see if the page is current.  If it 
finds that the cached version is out of date it downloads the new 
page and automatically makes the browser refresh the page. If the 
page is current-- you're set.  If not-- you get the auto-refresh.

Not a bad idea if you don't mind running the risk of looking at 
stale data for a second or two.

To do it in Linux there would need to be some kind of way for squid 
to trigger a refresh in the browser if the page is not current.  How 
would one do that, and would it be breaking any fscking patents?






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Re: [newbie] browsing cache

2003-08-17 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Yes it will work

Install and configure the squids server (your best to configure it with 
drakwizard)

The tell your browser to use localhost 3128 as your proxy

Mike

Anarky wrote:

ed tharp wrote:

squid might do what you are thinking about, and can do it well for
everyone on your lan.
 

that's what I'm saying .. there's just one computer ... will it work 
in this scenario ... and is it hard to use? I'd love a tool meant 
especially for this ... 'cause i'd rather not configure a hard to 
configure thing ...



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Re: [newbie] Can't retrieve mail from /var/spool/mail

2003-08-17 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Was that sarcasm?

HaywireMac wrote:

On 17 Aug 2003 07:34:11 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 

This would not happen if you were using Qmail configured for Maildir. 
This is a classic problem with the mbox format.

Try Qmail; it's a slight learning curve, but you'll be glad you did. 
Vincent Danen has the rpm's at rpmhelp.net.
   

a, geez, I just got Postfix goin'...

but I will look into it, if only to learn more, eventually I'm hoping to
get certified in Linux and such, so it's all good!
Right now I'm concentrating on Apache vhosts (supposed to be easy,
but...), then I want to learn some Perl, then...
It never ends, which is also a Good Thing, right?

**holy shite, I was just looking at the features list, it includes POP
functionality *built in*?! Wow.
 



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Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.

2003-08-16 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Still think Dyson is the best though

ed tharp wrote:

On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
Brandon, as I see it tho, M$ built a system designed to require
expensive maintenance, as a business model. linus builds a system to
'work right' as an Operation system, as an Computer Operation System
model.
Let's see do I want an expensive vacuum cleaner that requires
expensive repair and a certificated maintenance tech to change the bag,
and it does not really have the suction, or beater brush the Other One
does, and is hard to push, but once you learn where the button to allow
you to push it, even a grown women can push it) , and the Other One,
while free, (all I have to do is pick it up, and the manufacturer says
if I like it, I can pay what I feel it is worth), made of the latest and
best components, and the manufacturer says hey let us know how it
works, cause we want to make it better still, and we know it ain't gonna
ever be perfect, but we do have it so we think it should position itself
to catch spills before they happen.
Well, If I am a stock holder of Expensive Vac. company, I really like
the Expensive Vac. Brand, and want everyone to think 'hey that Expensive
Vac. is the way to go, heck the Other One Vacs. have a button to make it
easier to push, and Other One Vacs _don't_ even have a button to make it
easier to push, heck who is gonna fix your Other One vac, when the bag
is full, who you gonna call?? heck I don't even know anyone certified to
empty the bag on an Other One vac. (the fact that the Other One Vac.
empties its own filter, is totally missed by the stockholder for
Expensive Vac.
Know what I mean? 

 



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Re: [newbie] mounting /home on another disk

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Sorry

Then try mounting /dev/hda#  where # is the number that home was on

Mike

Curt Tresenriter wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:49:47 +0100
Michael Lothian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|All you need to do when installing amndrake from scratch is do 
|Configure Manually
|
|Create the partitions you want on hda making them the size you want and 
|creating /home on hdd
|
|It's quite clever and work it all out for its self.
|
|Mike
|
|Curt Tresenriter wrote:
|
|I want to mount the /home partition on hda (mdk 9.1)  from my mdk 9.0 installation on hdd.
|
|Is it simply a matter of making a mount point for hda6 and naming it something other than /home to avoid confusing 9.0?
|Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

I could have been more clear.
Both are installed but at the moment I cannot boot 9.1 (I'm going to work on that...) but in the meantime, I want to 
gain access to my /home partition on the hda disk (9.1)  while in 9.0 (on the hdd disk)

 



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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux are the same 
type and have the same functions.

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:
 

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a
program I'm trying to run with wine.
Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an
Installer of sorts.  There is some additional education on
the site.
Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new
RPM's built nearly every day.   Check WineHQ
http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want to try WineX, also  
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

   

Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my 
system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's 
misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just 
refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. 

Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant 
for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't 
know much about Texas, but where I live universities use 
Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their 
fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are 
Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is 
the capitol of Texas ?

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Well mathplot is on mandrake

http://sourceforge.net/search/ with the word math broaught up loads of 
things

Try matching something simialar

And then get your daugter to get her uni to switch lol

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux
are the same type and have the same functions.
Mike

   

Mike - what free programs ???

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Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
If that was the address that the attack was pointed at won't it make 
sence for MS to disable it?

Mike

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Frankie wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brant Fitzsimmons
For those who don't know--MS has changed around a lot of their Windows
Update network to try and handle the expected onslaught of hits from
computers commandeered by the MSBlast worm.  Guess who they put at the
the front line of their defense.
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com

  


FRANKI:

I don't know if I understand it..

I thought the urls for m$ updates were:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
The site windowsupdate.microsoft.com  is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on
Windows Server 2003.
which goes though to:

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
The site v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com  is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on
Windows Server 2003.
Both of those show up as IIS6 on 2003.

I had never heard of www.windowsupdate.com before and the page 
doesn't show
up..

Oddly enough.. http://windowsupdate.com also returns just an IIS 
server on
2003.
The site windowsupdate.com  is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows 
Server
2003.

Neither that site, nor www.win... shows up in my browser though.



regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com
You are absolutely correct.  www.windowsupdate.com is not coming up.  
I do know, however, that it does indeed exist as I've accessed it many 
times in the past.

Akamai has also been doing Microsoft's DNS work ever since that very 
large DNS crack at MS brought down most of their network 5 or so years 
ago, so they have been using Linux, where they needed extra security, 
for quite a while.



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Re: [newbie] VNC with sound?

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Can't SSH do this? Say if you ran XMMS from the server wouldn't it play 
the music?

Mike

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Miark wrote:

Server's on the third floor, laptop on the first. And the
server's in my office--if I cranked it loud enough to reach
down there, my ears would be ringing :-)
Miark

On 16 Aug 2003 07:44:09 +1000, Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 

On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 07:02, Miark wrote:
  

Is there any software out there that works like
VNC, but pumps video and _sound_ over the network?
Miark

You can always do what I do - hook up speakers on the server...

So what's the downside. ;-)

Hold on a second... Honey, can you get the phone?

OK. I'm back. :-)



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Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.

2003-08-15 Per discussione Michael Lothian
http://www.iht.com/articles/106638.html

Michael Lothian wrote:

If that was the address that the attack was pointed at won't it make 
sence for MS to disable it?

Mike

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Frankie wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brant Fitzsimmons
For those who don't know--MS has changed around a lot of their Windows
Update network to try and handle the expected onslaught of hits from
computers commandeered by the MSBlast worm.  Guess who they put at the
the front line of their defense.
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com

  




FRANKI:

I don't know if I understand it..

I thought the urls for m$ updates were:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
The site windowsupdate.microsoft.com  is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on
Windows Server 2003.
which goes though to:

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
The site v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com  is running 
Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on
Windows Server 2003.

Both of those show up as IIS6 on 2003.

I had never heard of www.windowsupdate.com before and the page 
doesn't show
up..

Oddly enough.. http://windowsupdate.com also returns just an IIS 
server on
2003.
The site windowsupdate.com  is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows 
Server
2003.

Neither that site, nor www.win... shows up in my browser though.



regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com
You are absolutely correct.  www.windowsupdate.com is not coming up.  
I do know, however, that it does indeed exist as I've accessed it 
many times in the past.

Akamai has also been doing Microsoft's DNS work ever since that very 
large DNS crack at MS brought down most of their network 5 or so 
years ago, so they have been using Linux, where they needed extra 
security, for quite a while.



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each.

You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that is 
most likely to be on for most of the time

You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each)  making 
sure it works in Linux first

And a cheap hub.

Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to share 
the conection

Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection.

You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month.

This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 
which was a hub and 2 network cards.

I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works with 
windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it)

I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even 
cheeper solution.

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:


Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of 
service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to 
buy 4 new modems  just to get started. 


What exactly is your setup?

 

I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters 
each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the 
family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will 
all need one ADSL  each.  I have concidered building a serverbox to 
link via  lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though 
I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own 
a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun 
to muck around with.

So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet 
connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be 
one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the 
world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back.

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Re: [newbie] Mail setup

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
But what  packages are best to do the aforementioned tasks. I was under 
the impression there were quite a few choices.

And where would documentation for these things be?

Mike

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 09:30, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Sorry my question was what's the best way to do this

What software? How do I configure it? Is there a guide or wizard?

Thanks

Mike
   

Quite literally, everything is already exists on the machine to do this;
you can use Webmin as an all in one GUI to configure it all...
 



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Well I'm with freeserve and no problems here

Mozilla wouldn't touch your dial up any security would go over tcp/ip 
and would have nothing do with the physical conection

Aslo when your on the phone do you get a lot of static or noise?

Also does that mean you live outside an ADSL exchange?

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

Personally , I think it's mostly due to a lack of equipement to cater 
for demand by my ISP, , Freeserve anytime, but I have to be aware of 
the possibilities of problems with my end.

First they blamed it on BT, said the line was faulty, so then I get BT 
to carry out line tests, they report a good line , no problems.

Then when I report that to Freeserve they say, it's due to my modem, 
which in fairness was very hot due to the weather, but I still have 
doubts about that accusation, for one thing the fall in the quality of 
service predates the heatwave,
plus I've now rigged a temporary 8cm case fan straight onto the chips 
and they are now cool enough, and still no improvement.

Then it occures to me that it might be something to do with my ISP 
rejecting my connection due to some sort of security increase due to 
me installing Mozilla1.4 with all it's increase security packages.I'm 
not really confident about it, but I have to explore the possibility , 
that is all.

I'm affraid there are no cheap broadband packages available to me.
I shall have to put up with dialup.
I can switch to another ISP, and may well do so, but I want to be sure 
first that it is my ISP lack of equipement to service the demand that 
really is the problem.

I suppose it might help if I could get the computer to cough up some 
reason why the ISP connection fails so often.

Michael Lothian wrote:

Get cheep broadband ;)

My exchange gets enabled on the 3rd of September and it's as cheep as 
freephone dial up.

Going back to your question no these have nothing to do with mozilla 
but are far more elikely due to the heat.

I'm in Edinburgh and it's still roasting here so much so that I was 
getting graphical errors in Windows.

What isp are you with anyway and what time were you connecting at?

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

I have a Tetex version of Mozilla 1.4 installed.

I also installed some security packages.
not sure if these are they, but included,
mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm
mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm
I now have a tab called enigmail.

OK so there are new security features.

Question ,
Is it possible that any of these new security feature might cause
difficulties logging on, and when on, cause the line to be dropped
by my ISP.
I'm not terribly convinced of this but I'm currently in discussions
with my ISP because of the service I'm not getting.
Now bear in mind here in Britain we are going through a heat wave
right now, with daily temperatures 36-38 C or 98-100F, and indeed
I'm currently struggling to keep my equipement opperational in these
unusual temperatures in a room reaching this afternoon of 106F.
My modem is getting hot, and I've removed the plastic casing and
positioned a 8CM case fan over it to cool things down a bit.
here is a typical connection script

ATZ
OK
AT F1 V1
TERMINATION REASON.. NONE
LAST TX rate N/A
HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS
LAST RX rate N/A
HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS
PROTOCOL N/A
COMPRESSION. N/A
Line QUALITY 255
Rx LEVEL 215
Highest Rx State 00
Highest TX State 00
EQM Sum. 
RBS Pattern. FF
Rate Drop... FF
Digital Loss None
Local Rtrn Count 00
Remote Rtrn Count... 00
Flex fail
OK
ATM0L0
OK
ATDT147008089933265
CONNECT 57600
NO CARRIER

I've been ticked off by my ISP for setting my KPPP dialer
speed to 115200, though I would of thought it didn't matter.
So I've reset it to 57600 , for all the difference it makes.
What is people's oppinion could the new Mozilla security cause
my ISP to drop my line connection, and make connection
difficult in the first place. What is the likelyhood of the problem 
being
the modem, and how much of the problem is due to lousy ISP equipement
facilities ?

Any opinions ?

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Netgear have a broadband modem / hub in one

Best to use www.priceguideuk.com

Reviews here but this place may not be the cheepest 
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=1ShopGroupID=12SupplierID=1 
and 
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.asp 
have a look arround for good deals

If you go for the bundle you'll just need to buy 2 cards and 2 cat5 
cables. If you find the modem/router at a cheeper price get 4 network 
cards and calbes.

Oh yes and you may need to purchase extra splitters for each phone in 
your house (you can find them for as little as 99p (again look arround)

You'll find that most pci network cards work in linux out the box

Mike



Netgear also have very good UK customer service

John Richard Smith wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:

Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each.

You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that 
is most likely to be on for most of the time

You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each)  
making sure it works in Linux first

And a cheap hub.

Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to 
share the conection

Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection.

You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month.

This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for 
£30 which was a hub and 2 network cards.

I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works 
with windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it)

I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even 
cheeper solution.

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:
 
I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters 
each have computers that float in and out according to presence in 
the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at 
home will all need one ADSL  each.  I have concidered building a 
serverbox to link via  lans to each but right now that is beyond my 
ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind 
I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box 
though, would be fun to muck around with.

So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet 
connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will 
be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the 
world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back.

John

So your modem and LAN kit all works well in Linux,

Could you list the make and  models etc.

Or could anyone else list examples of known to work well
IDSL modem, hub and satelite kits .
Also, it gets a bit hot up here in summer. It must work in hostile 
environments , this week I had 106F to contend with though that is the 
exception not the rule, it's just an odd day or two in the year.

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Re: [newbie] CF card

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Is it USB? If so just by plugging it in.

A new device will appear called /dev/sda

I can't reember if linux automatically mounts this or not.

Jesüs Arocho wrote:

I am running mandrake 9.1 and just purchased a PNY CF card and card reader.  
How do I get this to work on my box?

 



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian

Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of 
service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 
4 new modems  just to get started. 
What exactly is your setup?


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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Get cheep broadband ;)

My exchange gets enabled on the 3rd of September and it's as cheep as 
freephone dial up.

Going back to your question no these have nothing to do with mozilla but 
are far mor elikely due to the heat.

I'm in Edinburgh and it's still roasting here so much so that I was 
getting graphical errors in Windows.

What isp are you with anyway and what time were you connecting at?

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

I have a Tetex version of Mozilla 1.4 installed.

I also installed some security packages.
not sure if these are they, but included,
mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm
mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm
I now have a tab called enigmail.

OK so there are new security features.

Question ,
Is it possible that any of these new security feature might cause
difficulties logging on, and when on, cause the line to be dropped
by my ISP.
I'm not terribly convinced of this but I'm currently in discussions
with my ISP because of the service I'm not getting.
Now bear in mind here in Britain we are going through a heat wave
right now, with daily temperatures 36-38 C or 98-100F, and indeed
I'm currently struggling to keep my equipement opperational in these
unusual temperatures in a room reaching this afternoon of 106F.
My modem is getting hot, and I've removed the plastic casing and
positioned a 8CM case fan over it to cool things down a bit.
here is a typical connection script

ATZ
OK
AT F1 V1
TERMINATION REASON.. NONE
LAST TX rate N/A
HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS
LAST RX rate N/A
HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS
PROTOCOL N/A
COMPRESSION. N/A
Line QUALITY 255
Rx LEVEL 215
Highest Rx State 00
Highest TX State 00
EQM Sum. 
RBS Pattern. FF
Rate Drop... FF
Digital Loss None
Local Rtrn Count 00
Remote Rtrn Count... 00
Flex fail
OK
ATM0L0
OK
ATDT147008089933265
CONNECT 57600
NO CARRIER

I've been ticked off by my ISP for setting my KPPP dialer
speed to 115200, though I would of thought it didn't matter.
So I've reset it to 57600 , for all the difference it makes.
What is people's oppinion could the new Mozilla security cause
my ISP to drop my line connection, and make connection
difficult in the first place. What is the likelyhood of the problem being
the modem, and how much of the problem is due to lousy ISP equipement
facilities ?
Any opinions ?

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[newbie] Mail setup

2003-08-10 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi

I'm not sure this is the best place for this question but here goes...

I'm getting a 2MBit broadband conection and I'd like to set a linux box 
to be my own mail server.

What's the best way to do this:

My ideal setup would be imap, pop and webmail and an ftp and web server 
as well perhaps. Oh yes and spam assasin is an essential.

Is there any setup guides for this or does Mandrake have any wizards?

Oh yes my current domain is fireburn.co.uk and my new conection will 
have a fixed ip.

Again I'm not sure about all this as I've only really used mandrake for 
playing music and watching dvds.

Thanks again

Mike


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Re: [newbie] Spell Check for Mozilla Messenger

2003-05-31 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi

Try typing:

urpmi mozilla-spellchecker

It should then work (hopefully)

What version of mandrake and mozilla are you using anyway?

Mike

owenb wrote:

Thanks Charlie,
When I tried it I got:
[root localhost owen]#
]root @ localhost owen] #  urmpi  mozilla-spellchecker- 1.3.-1mkd.i586.rpm
unable to access rpm file mozilla-spellchecker- 1.3.-1mkd.i586.rpm]
error registering local packages
[root localhost owen]#
**
Charlie wrote:
quoting owenb's missive of Friday 30 May 2003 08:32 am:
 

Please,
Is there a spell checker for Mozilla Messenger?
If so, how do I get it installed on one of the menu bars?
I'm one of those who can't spell worth a damn.
Thanks,
Owen
   

In a terminal as super user (root);
urpmi mozilla-spellchecker-1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm
and you'll get what you need.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs

2003-05-31 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hmm Royal Observatory Edinburgh?

Do you know George Sherrifs undergrad or Meric who works there?

Mike


CVS - The VS stands for versioning system I think - the C might be
coordinated or cooperative.  It is something we used up at the
Royal Observatory Edinburgh for software development projects under
UNIX. Never really got the hang of it.  It is supposed to provide a
standardized way for members of a group to maintain, synchronize,
and backup their efforts.  The system may hold several snapshots of
the programmers' work, including documentation, with all the roots
and branches, making it possible to recover a complete version at
any stage or even summarize the history of the project.  I dimly
recall that CVS was based on an earlier system called RCS (?).
   



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Re: [newbie] SanDisk USB CF/SM readers work?

2003-05-31 Per discussione Michael Lothian
I'm using the sandisk 6 in 1 Card Reader (USB2)

And after adding one simple line to one configuration file telling the 
scsi module to use multiple luns (because it has more than one slor or 
drive) it works perfectly.

Mike

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 30 May 2003 5:54 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I'm in the market for a Compact Flash card reader and was hoping
you could tell me a brand and model that works for you. I am
looking at a SanDisk USB CF/Smart Media reader
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B68UXB/qid=1054312384/sr
=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/102-0362829-1464909 because it's cheap and I could
also use the Smart Media part.
Thanks,
Todd
   

I can't answer for that model, Todd.  What I can say is that John and 
I have both been struggling to find one that works, without success.  
A number of people have Sandisk CF readers that work, and there is 
one model of Sandisk SM reader that I understand works, but I do not 
know anyone who has managed to get a dual standard reader working.

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[newbie] URPMI description install

2003-05-30 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Hi I was wondering if there was a way to make URPMI install RPMs who's 
descrption contains a particular word ie game

I can do it in Sortware Install however it has issues when my ISP 
disconects me every two hours so I prefer using the command line.

Thanks

Mike


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Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-30 Per discussione Michael Lothian
Att? Appleton Tower (AT) doesn't have any open access PCs (or macs lol) 
anymore. Us inf students have taken over since the fire (that ravaged 
the cowgate lol)

It's quite fun however watching art students coming in and trying to log 
on to a linux box with there linux passwords.

Afew have even pressed the reset button in disgust.

Art students Tut

Mike

Aron Smith wrote:

Gee I thought Att Students used Imacs?
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 15:19, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Blimey what uni do you go to.

Here at Edinbugh we have Windows for the arts students and Linux for us 
Infomatics students, LOL.

Any way that my 2 pennies.

Mike

Benjamin Jeeves wrote:

   

I my finishing my degree in computer science in the UK and have finished 
writing my dissertation on Intrusion Detection Systems which I developed on 
Linux with open source software. My uni is all Mircosoft pruely because it is 
what the students have learn before they have come to uni and by only 
treaching them about Linux and open source will we be about to give people 
the option of using a different O/S. My point is we need to teach people 
about Linux and the fact that it is not like Unix any more and has a GUI that 
this up to Windows and is easyer the windows to install.

my 2 cents that all.

Benjamin



 

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