[newbie] Broke Gnome.
Hi All, I have just updated 10.1(Ce) from the newly updated Tree.Now Gnome does not appear in the Log On options.This not a major problem,but any program which needs the Gnome Libs now do not run. How do I go about sorting this problem?Also if Iupdate to Gnome 2.7,will make an even bigger mess? Drew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Broke Gnome.
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 07:18, Drew Martin wrote: Hi All, I have just updated 10.1(Ce) from the newly updated Tree.Now Gnome does not appear in the Log On options.This not a major problem,but any program which needs the Gnome Libs now do not run. How do I go about sorting this problem?Also if Iupdate to Gnome 2.7,will make an even bigger mess? Drew Updating broke Gnome, hmm? Strange that. Ok - here's what I would do first: 1.) Login as root, go into YOUR /home/yournamehere directory and rename any of the .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome-private (and etc) directories to something else - just in case there is data there that you need 2.) Login as you again - see if Gnome rebuilding it's directories and configurations resolves the issue 3.) If Gnome is not showing up in your XDM, try changing runlevel from 5 to 3 and install Xtart - run it once you've rebooted - IT should pick up Gnome as a desktop/window manager 4.) If Gnome is hosed beyond all that, then I cannot tell you anything good, because from experience, once Gnome is borked, it's borked very well and generally is such a nightmare to repair that it pays generally to just reinstall. Not a joke there. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- You never hesitate to tackle the most difficult problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Used to be that Gnome was highly configurable (and not so bloated) - back in the pre-2.0 days - was my preferred wm/desktop, but nowadays, it's, well, just way too much bloat, not configurable as it used to be; but that's what the Gnome developers think is simple. Thanks for that. I haven't tried 2.6 yet but I believe it's worse from the configurability point of view. I don't really like KDE - too bloated for my liking - so maybe I'll go back to using WindowMaker eventually. David -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Ummm, I've just tried to do this - and I don't have /home/der/.gnome-desktop ? David -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 03:13, David Robertson wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Ummm, I've just tried to do this - and I don't have /home/der/.gnome-desktop ? David What about: gnome-search-tool = Wastebasket ...see what that turn up...?? stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 03:22:37 up 1 day, 7:46, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.14 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Hewett's Observation: The rudeness of a bureaucrat is inversely proportional to his or her position in the governmental hierarchy and to the number of peers similarly engaged. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 03:13, David Robertson wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Ummm, I've just tried to do this - and I don't have /home/der/.gnome-desktop ? David What about: gnome-search-tool = Wastebasket ...see what that turn up...?? Nope - tried that one -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 03:13, David Robertson wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Ummm, I've just tried to do this - and I don't have /home/der/.gnome-desktop ? David Sorry - forgot versions - ok: /home/der/Desktop/Trash/.directory You can edit that file (.directory) stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 03:29:49 up 1 day, 7:53, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.12 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Breathe deep the gathering gloom. Watch lights fade from every room. Bed-sitter people look back and lament; another day's useless energies spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one. Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son. Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold-hearted orb that rules the night; Removes the colors from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white. But we decide which is real, and which is an illusion. -- The Moody Blues, Days of Future Passed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 03:13, David Robertson wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Ummm, I've just tried to do this - and I don't have /home/der/.gnome-desktop ? David Sorry - forgot versions - ok: /home/der/Desktop/Trash/.directory You can edit that file (.directory) Thanks Stephen OK - this is the modified /home/der/Desktop/Wastebin/.directory file - [Desktop Entry] Type=Directory Icon=/home/der/installfiles/icons/Trashbox.png EmptyIcon=/home/der/installfiles/icons/Trashbox.png Name=Trash Name[af]=Gemors Name[az]=Zibil Name[be]= Name[bg]= Name[bn]= Name[bs]=Smee Name[ca]=Paperera Name[cs]=Ko Name[cy]=Sbwriel Name[da]=Affald Name[de]=Mlleimer Name[el]= Name[en_GB]=Wastebin Name[eo]=Rubujo Name[es]=Papelera Name[et]=Prgikast Name[eu]=Zaborra Name[fa]= Name[fi]=Roskakori Name[fr]=Corbeille Name[gl]=Lixo Name[he]= Name[hi]= Name[hr]=Smee Name[hu]=Szemtkosr Name[is]=Rusl Name[it]=Cestino Name[ja]= Name[ko]= Name[lo]= Name[lt]= iukliad Name[lv]=Miskaste Name[mk]= Name[mn]= Name[mt]=Skart Name[nb]=Sppel Name[nl]=Prullenbak Name[nn]=Papirkorg Name[nso]=Seswaraditlakala Name[pl]=mietnik Name[pt]=Lixo Name[pt_BR]=Lixo Name[ro]=Gunoi Name[ru]= Name[se]=Ruskalihtti Name[sk]=K Name[sl]=Smeti Name[sr]= Name[sv]=Papperskorg Name[ta]= Name[tg]= Name[th]= Name[tr]=p Name[uk]= Name[uz]= Name[ven]=Tshikha Name[vi]=Thng rc Name[wa]=Batch Name[xh]=Inkukumo Name[xx]=xxTrashxx Name[zh_CN]= Name[zh_TW]= Name[zu]=Izibi Comment=Contains removed files I've replaced the two icon entries with the desired filename. Makes no difference, though, and every time I edit the file, it saves as .directory~ If I then rename to .directory, log out and restart Gnome - no change. I'm confused! Maybe I'll just keep the standard icon.Thanks for trying, though - any more suggestions? David -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 04:06, David Robertson wrote: OK - this is the modified /home/der/Desktop/Wastebin/.directory file - whack I've replaced the two icon entries with the desired filename. Makes no difference, though, and every time I edit the file, it saves as .directory~ If I then rename to .directory, log out and restart Gnome - no change. I'm confused! Maybe I'll just keep the standard icon.Thanks for trying, though - any more suggestions? David Ah well - shows that there's even less customisation available in Gnome nowadays - it's getting dumbed down for the masses. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 07:42:49 up 1 day, 12:06, 3 users, load average: 0.45, 0.26, 0.09 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Too much of anything, even love, isn't necessarily a good thing. -- Kirk, The Trouble with Tribbles, stardate 4525.6 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Changing gnome icons
How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing gnome icons
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:19, David Robertson wrote: How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome-desktop/Wastebasket - it's editable; you can change: X-Nautilus-Icon=gnome-fs-trash-empty to whatever else...(sometimes it works, sometimes it don't) Used to be that Gnome was highly configurable (and not so bloated) - back in the pre-2.0 days - was my preferred wm/desktop, but nowadays, it's, well, just way too much bloat, not configurable as it used to be; but that's what the Gnome developers think is simple. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 21:42:43 up 2:06, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.10 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products XIIdigitation, n.: The practice of trying to determine the year a movie was made by deciphering the Roman numerals at the end of the credits. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Changing gnome icons
How can I replace my Gnome (2.4) Trash icon with one of my choice - properties doesn't give me the option to use a custom icon? I've searched for the appropriate config file and googled, but no joy, so suggestions would be appreciated. David -- Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lost gnome-panel after installing 4.4.0 XFree86 on 9.2 AMD64
I installed the AMD64 binary version (yes, on an AMD64 system) of XFree86 4.4.0, downloaded from the XFree86.org site. I installed on an eMachines M6805, and I'm pleased to say that I've been able to get the native 1280x800 resolution on the LCD, and I've been able to simultaneously drive an attached monitor at an independent resolution and refresh rate. This laptop uses the ATI 9600 Mobility chip with 64 MB discrete RAM, and I'm running the RC1 Mandrake 9.2 AMD64 release. I'm using the radeon driver. The issue I'm having is with gnome-panel, and unfortunately I don't see a pattern in the problem. The very first time I started up X after installing 4.4.0, both screen had their own panel, and they both worked. I shut down and added Xinerama. When I rebooted, only the CRT had a panel. If I put the mouse on the LCD and hit alt-F1, I get the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD, and it works. I've verified in /var/log/XFree.0.log that X recognizes the LCD as being the first monitor. If I now comment out Xinerama, when I start X I have *no* gnome-panel at all! Alt-F1 will still pop up the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD. What can I do to get the panel on the LCD? And where can I find the configuration options for the radeon driver? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Solved-- Gnome 2.2 Documentation System broken
Nevertheless, when I went to DocumentationHelp it was opened by Galeon, not by Mozilla... The documentation you want must be around here /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Starter.html/index.html Or you can reinstall Galeon again! JM 12/27/03 To: JM and All I had removed Galeon (and Mozilla). That is what broke the Gnome 2.2 Documentation System when using the menus: start-Documentation. I reinstalled Galeon (and the underlying Mozilla code) and everything is back to normal. Thanks for the assistance. And yes, I did have a nice holiday. I hope yours went well too. Stephen. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie-it] gnome+pam-panel-icon
Salve a tutti Di recente ho scoperto che il desktop del cuore è gnome. Ma c'è un piccolo problema che mi sta facendo impazzire. Il pam-panel-icon, io penso sia quello almeno spero. Quando guardo la lista dei processi di questo famigerato pam-panel-icon ce ne sono una ventina attivi. Se poi uso il control center e inserisco la password di root nel pannello mi escono una ventina di mazzi di chiavi. Se mi loggo come root da console non succede niente. Se clicco su una di queste chiavi mi dice se voglio prendere l' autorizzazione o dimenticarla, e basta. Ho cercato ovunque notizie su ste chiavi ma non le trovo. Ho provato a killare i processi ma ripartono subito e con un consumo maggiore di memoria. Ho trovato l'app pam-panel-icon è sono stato tentato di cancellarla, ma mi è sembrata una cosa poco linuxiana e poco elegante. Oltre tutto se uso KDE non la trovo nella lista dei processi. Penso che ci sia una sorta di demone che contralla il processo ma non ho capito qual' è. Qualcuno mi può dare qulache consiglio? Grazie
[newbie] changing GNOME themes
Anyone had success changing downloading and installing new themes in GNOME (Metacity themes that is) in Mandrake 9.1? I've spent an hour or so on it and can't seem to get it to work using the Theme configurator... TIA -Russ- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing GNOME themes
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:23, Russ Rollins wrote: Anyone had success changing downloading and installing new themes in GNOME (Metacity themes that is) in Mandrake 9.1? I've spent an hour or so on it and can't seem to get it to work using the Theme configurator... TIA -Russ- I gave up trying. If you do get it right, let us know how. When I THOUGHT I had it right, a restart of Gnome2 broke it again...ah well...XFCE4 is so much better... -- Tue Jun 24 08:54:59 EST 2003 08:54:59 up 2 days, 18:05, 3 users, load average: 1.15, 0.79, 0.37 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * All extremists should be taken out and shot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] installing gnome themes
I'm having great trouble installing new gtk themes and iconsets: I tried to use Gnome control center on 9.1 and it only lets me touch what's already installed. I've tried targzipping the folders with the themes I wanted to use and point the program to that, but it doesn't seem to work. I really wish gnome configuring was easier... -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out - http://moranar.com.ar Linux, ideas, libros, música, 100% Moranar icq nº: 4410132 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] No Gnome-panel when upgrading 9.0-9.1
The upgrade from 9.0 seamed to run fine, until I logged in again after the upgrade. I am a Gnome user, and when gnome had loaded, the bottom menu was empty, and the top menu was missing. I can choose New terminal from the left (or was it right) click menu on the desktop, so I can do some maintenance. How could this happen ? What should I do to get the gnome panels to show as they should ? _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No Gnome-panel when upgrading 9.0-9.1
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 06:30, Ancient Computers wrote: The upgrade from 9.0 seamed to run fine, until I logged in again after the upgrade. I am a Gnome user, and when gnome had loaded, the bottom menu was empty, and the top menu was missing. I can choose New terminal from the left (or was it right) click menu on the desktop, so I can do some maintenance. How could this happen ? What should I do to get the gnome panels to show as they should ? If you did an upgrade, you might want to logoff, login as root, delete all the ~/home/usernamegoeshere/.gnome* directories and then login as yourself again...Gnome 2.2 sometimes doesn't like the leftovers from Gnome2. Being a Gnome 1.4+ person, I've become very dissatisfied with the Gnome project overall and find that they're becoming scattered in their direction and goal - they've got some great ideas, but lacking in stability and user-friendliness - but hey, that's my onion - er, opinion... -- Fri Apr 4 06:45:00 EST 2003 06:45:00 up 13 days, 18:32, 3 users, load average: 0.44, 0.14, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Didja' ever have to make up your mind, Pick up on one and leave the other behind, It's not often easy, and it's not often kind, Didja' ever have to make up your mind? -- Lovin' Spoonful Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
Does anyone know how to use a window manager other than Metacity with GNOME. MDK 9.0 GNOME 2.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
My Inbox Happily Received This From Stephen Kuhn @ 04 Dec 2002 07:13:05 +1100 On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 01:41, kjc wrote: Does anyone know how to use a window manager other than Metacity with GNOME. MDK 9.0 GNOME 2.0 The secret with that is to KILL MetaCity and startup another WM, then exit and save the session. I had to hack the hell out of mine in order for it to recognize either IceWM or Sawfish...then it was still iffy what i did was # mv /usr/bin/metacity /usr/bin/metacity- ln -s /usr/bin/X11/sawfish /usr/bin/metacity :D -- -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. msg110611/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
Interesting. I'll give this a spin. Mohammed Sameer wrote: My Inbox Happily Received This From Stephen Kuhn @ 04 Dec 2002 07:13:05 +1100 On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 01:41, kjc wrote: Does anyone know how to use a window manager other than Metacity with GNOME. MDK 9.0 GNOME 2.0 The secret with that is to KILL MetaCity and startup another WM, then exit and save the session. I had to hack the hell out of mine in order for it to recognize either IceWM or Sawfish...then it was still "iffy" what i did was # mv /usr/bin/metacity /usr/bin/metacity- ln -s /usr/bin/X11/sawfish /usr/bin/metacity :D
Re: [newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 07:27, kjc wrote: I used Ximian 1.4 on SuSE 7.1 I was not a happy camper. The Nautilus file manager on 1.4 has enough bugs to keep you up at night. Under Gnome 1.4, I use Konqueror as my file manager - less trouble, more usability... Plus. You may have the same problem setting up a WM other than Metacity. Try using the GConf-editor to edit the registry for Gnome2 - it doesn't always work, but I've run through the config files left and right under Gnome2, and the only way it seems to work (getting another WM to work) is to kill the Metashitty and fire up Sawfish, then quit saving the session...(I have tried doing a mv metacity metacity.old yet, but that's on the books, too...therefore, Gnome2 won't be able to find it and run it!) BTW. I'm feeling better about this installation by the hour. Once I installed the NVidia drivers. Things have started looking up. Yes, having the proper graphics drivers are definitely keen...makes for a much better experience - especially if you're like me - can't live in a world less than 1600x1200...!! On another note, you can install the Xtart rpm - which gives you the ability to choose different wm/desktops as you desire... -- Wed Dec 4 07:55:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Quantum Mechanics is a lovely introduction to Hilbert Spaces! -- Overheard at last year's Archimedeans' Garden Party Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 07:32, Mohammed Sameer wrote: what i did was # mv /usr/bin/metacity /usr/bin/metacity- ln -s /usr/bin/X11/sawfish /usr/bin/metacity :D Dude, that's even better! Way to go, Mo! -- Wed Dec 4 08:00:01 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. -- |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.--.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU -- Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 07:27, kjc wrote: I used Ximian 1.4 on SuSE 7.1 I was not a happy camper. The Nautilus file manager on 1.4 has enough bugs to keep you up at night. Under Gnome 1.4, I use Konqueror as my file manager - less trouble, more usability... Plus. You may have the same problem setting up a WM other than Metacity. Try using the GConf-editor to edit the "registry" for Gnome2 - it doesn't always work, but I've run through the config files left and right under Gnome2, and the only way it seems to work (getting another WM to work) is to kill the Metashitty and fire up Sawfish, then quit saving the session...(I have tried doing a mv metacity metacity.old yet, but that's on the books, too...therefore, Gnome2 won't be able to find it and run it!) BTW. I'm feeling better about this installation by the hour. Once I installed the NVidia drivers. Things have started looking up. Yes, having the proper graphics drivers are definitely keen...makes for a much better experience - especially if you're like me - can't live in a world less than 1600x1200...!! On another note, you can install the Xtart rpm - which gives you the ability to choose different wm/desktops as you desire... I can do this now with the login used by GDM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] Gnome Toaster
Alle 01:14, giovedì 24 ottobre 2002, Mavricijo Babic ha scritto: Savle o un picolo problema con il Gnome Toster non poso masterizare CD se sono logato con une user anche se ho permesi per root!! Con il root tuto funziona bene. Garzie mile Hai controllato se il tuo user è nele gruppo cdwriter ?? Prova a lanciare G.Toaster da shell,prova a masterizzare un cd, e vedi che ti dice. Magari ti da qualche info in piu! Ciao , Tom
[newbie] Customizing GNOME panel in Mandrake 9
I am running Mandrake 9, but would like to make GNOME customized as if I was running Redhat 8. I am running the Bluecurve/Freecurve theme and managed to change the icon in the main gnome panel from the Mandrake logo to the redhat logo from Redhat 8. The only thing I'm having a problem with is finding where to change the working from Mandrake to something like Menu. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Brian Craft Registered Linux User # 210286 Linux Registered machine: 97873 Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: bcraft67 ICQ id: 129672292 AIM: linuxgeek67 Linux..the OS of Choice! After you install Windows XP, you have the option to create user accounts. If you create user accounts, by default, they will have an account type of Administrator with no password. -- Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q293834 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT: Gnome Panel Level ??
Hi everyone, I know this is off topic, but maybe someone knows what's up with this... I just created a floating panel in Gnome, and added a "Desk Guide". Then I played around with the settings of the panel, and when I got to Panel/Properties/Level, I changed it from "Default" to "Below". The panel disappeared, and I have no clue whatsoever if it was deleted, or if it went under (below?) or how I can access it again?. I would just delete it and place a new one, but I can't select it since I can't see it. So my question is how do I know if it's still there (but invisible) and if it is still there how do I select it? And what does "Level" mean in the first place? The docs don't mention this (at least I haven't found them saying anything about this). Thanks in advance!!! Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [newbie] OT: Gnome Panel Level ??
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 03:28:10 -0400 (EDT), gikoreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I know this is off topic, but maybe someone knows what's up with this... I just created a floating panel in Gnome, and added a Desk Guide. Then I played around with the settings of the panel, and when I got to Panel/Properties/Level, I changed it from Default to Below. The panel disappeared, and I have no clue whatsoever if it was deleted, or if it went under (below?) or how I can access it again?. I would just delete it and place a new one, but I can't select it since I can't see it. So my question is how do I know if it's still there (but invisible) and if it is still there how do I select it? And what does Level mean in the first place? The docs don't mention this (at least I haven't found them saying anything about this). 2 options here: - Minimise all of your windows so that the desktop is visible. - Switch to a bare virtual desktop or viewport. You should then be able to see that panel. Also, please remove the 'Reply-To' on your mail. It makes responding to your posts annoying. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I think that throttling writers is fine and good, but as it stands now, the dirty buffer balancing will throttle anybody, not just the writer. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian Gnome errors
Hallo! Have any of you installed Ximian Gnome? If so are you able to start Gnome control center to change settings?? 8-? Thanks! -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Balears AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome errors
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 14:33:52 +0200, Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! Have any of you installed Ximian Gnome? If so are you able to start Gnome control center to change settings?? 8-? It works fine for me. What seems to be the problem? Try loading it from a terminal (the command is 'gnomecc') so that you can get a readout of errors. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan After you install Windows XP, you have the option to create user accounts. If you create user accounts, by default, they will have an account type of Administrator with no password. -- Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q293834 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome errors
Es Diumenge 02 Juny 2002 16:05, en Sridhar Dhanapalan va escriure: On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 14:33:52 +0200, Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! Have any of you installed Ximian Gnome? If so are you able to start Gnome control center to change settings?? 8-? It works fine for me. What seems to be the problem? Try loading it from a terminal (the command is 'gnomecc') so that you can get a readout of errors. Now it's working... after having installed gnome-control-center from Mandrake -no gnomecc executable was in my system-... but I don't know why 8-? Thanks! ;) -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Balears AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing gnome
Hallo! I didn't choose to install gnome at installation but now I'm interested in installing it... how can this be done? 8-? Thanks! -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Balears AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing gnome
On Monday 27 May 2002 03:32 pm, you wrote: Hallo! I didn't choose to install gnome at installation but now I'm interested in installing it... how can this be done? 8-? Thanks! Joan, probably the easiest way that I can think of is to put in CD1 and do an upgrade and just pick the Gnome package and nothing else. It should add all packages that you need for Gnome and take just a minute or two. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
On Monday 01 April 2002 10:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Personally I think it's better to run E, and then use gtk+ and qt apps directly without the Gnome desktop. But that's just me throwing out another wooden nickel. ;) E is so impressive that Window Manager hardly does it justice. I used to run E+GNOME in my Redhat days, but found I could get just about everything I wanted from E (and that was a long time ago - now it probably makes your coffee as well). Given that GNOME has so many features, it makes more sense to run it with a fairly minimal WM, unless you have a 2Gig processor and RAM coming out of your ears. KDE is a different kettle of fish, since it does both jobs (WM DE). Sir Robin -- Bravo Epictetus! - Epictetus Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:30:22 -0700 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adrian olsson wrote: KDE sucks, GNOME rules!! See http://women.kde.org/events/london_expo/expo.html about 'No rivalry!'. snip So why does my gnome *every single 8.0 - 8.2 install* still not use my sound properly? Hm??? Kde is fine. Cept for alsa resetting its own permissions *a known bug apparently* its fine. :) From /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/alsa-driver-0.5.12a/INSTALL (it's in the kernel-source .rpm package): --- DEVFS support = The ALSA driver fully supports the devfs extension. You should add lines below to your devfsd.conf file: LOOKUP snd MODLOAD ACTION snd REGISTER sound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 660 REGISTER snd/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 660 Warning: These lines assume that you have the audio group in your system. Otherwise replace audio word with another group name (root for example). See /etc/devfsd.conf. Answer me that one ;p Seriously I am *THIS* close to pitching gnome forever. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Have fun! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 07:51, Robin Turner wrote: On Monday 01 April 2002 10:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Personally I think it's better to run E, and then use gtk+ and qt apps directly without the Gnome desktop. But that's just me throwing out another wooden nickel. ;) E is so impressive that Window Manager hardly does it justice. I used to run E+GNOME in my Redhat days, but found I could get just about everything I wanted from E (and that was a long time ago - now it probably makes your coffee as well). Given that GNOME has so many features, it makes more sense to run it with a fairly minimal WM, unless you have a 2Gig processor and RAM coming out of your ears. KDE is a different kettle of fish, since it does both jobs (WM DE). Sir Robin Aha! Another Believer and member of the One True Faith!! Greetings, my brother. Have you recieved you complementary Raster icon and shrine candles yet?? If not let me know and I will get them shipped immediately. Holiest Regards, LX -- Bravo Epictetus! - Epictetus Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
tryed 2wice now to install 8.2 on my box that was previously running 8.1 no problems at all (and 8.0) before that, and it all goes smoothly enough until i get to restarting and logging in.. kde gives me a error saying the dcop server is not running, and gnome just returns to the login instead of actually logging me in. kde apps also are able to be run but dont open properly, giving errors of could not open network socket and then again says check to see that dcop server is running again. so i am stuck using blackbox (which isnt tooo bad i do admit but the lack of desktop icons is kinda annoying , tho im sure they can be created somnehow that i havent discovered yet) when i would much rather be using KDE.. any help[ gladly appreciated... mikecola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
KDE sucks, GNOME rules!! - Original Message - From: mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me tryed 2wice now to install 8.2 on my box that was previously running 8.1 no problems at all (and 8.0) before that, and it all goes smoothly enough until i get to restarting and logging in.. kde gives me a error saying the dcop server is not running, and gnome just returns to the login instead of actually logging me in. kde apps also are able to be run but dont open properly, giving errors of could not open network socket and then again says check to see that dcop server is running again. so i am stuck using blackbox (which isnt tooo bad i do admit but the lack of desktop icons is kinda annoying , tho im sure they can be created somnehow that i havent discovered yet) when i would much rather be using KDE.. any help[ gladly appreciated... mikecola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
On Monday 01 April 2002 00:49, adrian olsson wrote: KDE sucks, GNOME rules!! But the original point was that neither of them worked for this person (sorry, I'm unable to help, as I am still waiting for Mandrake Store to make a Download Version available - soon my patience will run out and I'll get it from Cheapbytes). And please let's not start a KDE vs. GNOME thread. Some of us here remember vi vs. emacs, which was equally unproductive. It's entirely a matter of taste. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
adrian olsson wrote: KDE sucks, GNOME rules!! - Original Message - From: mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me tryed 2wice now to install 8.2 on my box that was previously running 8.1 no problems at all (and 8.0) before that, and it all goes smoothly enough until i get to restarting and logging in.. kde gives me a error saying the dcop server is not running, and gnome just returns to the login instead of actually logging me in. kde apps also are able to be run but dont open properly, giving errors of could not open network socket and then again says check to see that dcop server is running again. so i am stuck using blackbox (which isnt tooo bad i do admit but the lack of desktop icons is kinda annoying , tho im sure they can be created somnehow that i havent discovered yet) when i would much rather be using KDE.. any help[ gladly appreciated... mikecola So why does my gnome *every single 8.0 - 8.2 install* still not use my sound properly? Hm??? Kde is fine. Cept for alsa resetting its own permissions *a known bug apparently* its fine. :) Answer me that one ;p Seriously I am *THIS* close to pitching gnome forever. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
FemmeFatale wrote: adrian olsson wrote: KDE sucks, GNOME rules!! - Original Message - From: mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me tryed 2wice now to install 8.2 on my box that was previously running 8.1 no problems at all (and 8.0) before that, and it all goes smoothly enough until i get to restarting and logging in.. kde gives me a error saying the dcop server is not running, and gnome just returns to the login instead of actually logging me in. kde apps also are able to be run but dont open properly, giving errors of could not open network socket and then again says check to see that dcop server is running again. so i am stuck using blackbox (which isnt tooo bad i do admit but the lack of desktop icons is kinda annoying , tho im sure they can be created somnehow that i havent discovered yet) when i would much rather be using KDE.. any help[ gladly appreciated... mikecola So why does my gnome *every single 8.0 - 8.2 install* still not use my sound properly? Hm??? Kde is fine. Cept for alsa resetting its own permissions *a known bug apparently* its fine. :) Answer me that one ;p Seriously I am *THIS* close to pitching gnome forever. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It sounds like you upgraded instead of made a new install. It may be that a default msec setup is clobbering your dcop setup files If that is the case, a fresh install is in order unless you want to follow some complicated instructions. But before you try that... Open a terminal from BB As user, not root rm -r ~/.kde -f rm -r ~/.gnome -f logout login on kde or gnome Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 18:30, FemmeFatale wrote: So why does my gnome *every single 8.0 - 8.2 install* still not use my sound properly? Hm??? Kde is fine. Cept for alsa resetting its own permissions *a known bug apparently* its fine. :) Answer me that one ;p Seriously I am *THIS* close to pitching gnome forever. Femme Interesting. But I pitched gnome some time ago, back in my red hat days; not because of configuration stuff, but because I had just started up Enlightenment for the first time and it almost knocked me out of the chair. :) Gnome back then was just too much of a resource hog. I haven't tried it lately, but I'm willing to bet it's still a resource zapper,since the whole Gnome gui runs using gtk+. Personally I think it's better to run E, and then use gtk+ and qt apps directly without the Gnome desktop. But that's just me throwing out another wooden nickel. ;) L8R LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 18:30, FemmeFatale wrote: So why does my gnome *every single 8.0 - 8.2 install* still not use my sound properly? Hm??? Kde is fine. Cept for alsa resetting its own permissions *a known bug apparently* its fine. :) Answer me that one ;p Seriously I am *THIS* close to pitching gnome forever. Femme Interesting. But I pitched gnome some time ago, back in my red hat days; not because of configuration stuff, but because I had just started up Enlightenment for the first time and it almost knocked me out of the chair. :) Gnome back then was just too much of a resource hog. I haven't tried it lately, but I'm willing to bet it's still a resource zapper,since the whole Gnome gui runs using gtk+. Personally I think it's better to run E, and then use gtk+ and qt apps directly without the Gnome desktop. But that's just me throwing out another wooden nickel. ;) L8R LX Believe me I'm inclined to agree... However E crashes significantly more than say KDE for me too *sigh* Oh well i'll stick with E Kde I guess. Thx Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome broken in 8.2 for me
FemmeFatale said onto me: snip FemmeFatale Believe me I'm inclined to agree... However E crashes significantly more FemmeFatale than say KDE for me too *sigh* snip Just curious, how do you crash your window manager? I haven't done that one yet (not Gnome, KDE or E). Dave -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.4claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] Gnome Toaster
Il giorno 18:01, sabato 9 marzo 2002 hai scritto: salve a tutti Ho provato a fare una semplicissima masterizazione con Gnome Toaster e non ho avuto nessun risultato,riportandomi come errore quanto segue: Child exited unexpectedly. CD recording process finished. Recording 39412464 bytes to CD couldn't run client: Permission denied Tenete presente che il masterizatore è gia visto come scd0. Che c'è che non funge? grazie per le eventuali risposte. Ciao , Tom Ciao Tom, usa l'utility UserDrake (K - Configurazione - Altro - UserDrake) e verifica che il tuo utente sia inserito anche nel gruppo cdwriter. Questo dovrebbe risolvere il problema. Daniele
[newbie-it] Gnome Toaster
salve a tutti Ho provato a fare una semplicissima masterizazione con Gnome Toaster e non ho avuto nessun risultato,riportandomi come errore quanto segue: Child exited unexpectedly. CD recording process finished. Recording 39412464 bytes to CD couldn't run client: Permission denied Tenete presente che il masterizatore è gia visto come scd0. Che c'è che non funge? grazie per le eventuali risposte. Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie] gtk/gnome themes
Thank you, Sridhar, that's very useful, I didn't realize that. Not all of the sawfish themes allow you to reconfigure that color (about 6 of the ones that come with Mandrake do). They appear as submenus of the appearence menu. There are some pretty cool themes there that really let you play more with the UI. Very nice. Thanks. - Paul Rodríguez On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 01:00, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 07 Mar 2002 11:22:40 -0500, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to change the color of the title bar in the window that is selected. How do I do this? I am running Sawfish under Gnome. I looked at the theme I was using (found in /usr/share/themes/Bubbles-Revisited-GTK/gtk/ ) but found no settings for that. AM I looking in the wrong place, or not deeply enough? Sawfish themes are separate from GTK+ themes. The ability to change the title bar colour depends on the Sawfish theme you're using. This can be changed in the Appearance section of the Sawfish configuration settings. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gtk/gnome themes
On 07 Mar 2002 11:22:40 -0500, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to change the color of the title bar in the window that is selected. How do I do this? I am running Sawfish under Gnome. I looked at the theme I was using (found in /usr/share/themes/Bubbles-Revisited-GTK/gtk/ ) but found no settings for that. AM I looking in the wrong place, or not deeply enough? Sawfish themes are separate from GTK+ themes. The ability to change the title bar colour depends on the Sawfish theme you're using. This can be changed in the Appearance section of the Sawfish configuration settings. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan And I have to say that I absolutely despise the BSD people... Oh, well. Not everybody can be as goodlooking as me. It's a curse. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] editting gnome themes
How do I edit a Gnome theme? - paul Rodriguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoocom address at http://mailyahoocom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
[newbie] KDE Gnome
Hi, I have just upgraded Evolution from 0.13 that came with mandrake 8.1 to Evolution 1.0.1 I think it is all looking quite good. I used gnorpm to install the downloads. I usually run KDE and Evolution keeps taking me into the gnome Control Center - and suddenly my KDE screensaver desktops disappeared etc. (They came back on a reboot). What is the best way to use these two control centers? I'd like to use lager fonts in the Gnome style aps - can I configure gnome to read the kde settings instead of sawfish? Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Desktops (Gnome,KDE,ect)
Ok I am assuming that KDE, GNOME, WindowMaker ect are nothing more then front ends to the command line. If this is true what advantages does one have over the other? Which should I learn? Is it worth learning them all? Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company (216) 267-5775 Voice (216) 267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktops (Gnome,KDE,ect)
Paul Kraus wrote: Ok I am assuming that KDE, GNOME, WindowMaker ect are nothing more then front ends to the command line. If this is true what advantages does one have over the other? Which should I learn? Is it worth learning them all? KDE and GNOME are GUI desktops or desktop managers (I think WindowMaker is also -- there are a bunch of them IceWM, Blacksomething, ...). If you're from the Windows world and remember dos, think of dos as command line Linux and KDE or GNOME as Windows. I think there is a little more to them than just front ends to the command line, but I guess that depends on your perspective. KDE is commonly thought to be the most newbie friendly and most Windows like for a user migrating from Windows. GNOME is somewhat similar, but I like KDE better than GNOME. Both KDE and GNOME are resource hungry, (I needed 256 MB of memory to get KDE performance (with a 2.2.19 kernel) similar to Windows 95 with 64 MB). The other desktop managers generally have advantages in terms of speed and less resource usage. Some desktop managers have the look and feel of other known operating systems, so you might like one of them better. (Other desktops are just different.) I don't think you should learn them all, but you may want to spend a little time experimenting with them all to see which you like best. In general, KDE and GNOME applications will run under the other desktops. (KDE, like GNOME, has some behind the scenes interprogram communication / automation features (dcop, kdcop for kde) -- I don't know if these work under the other desktops. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing gnome to kde
clueless newbie wants to switch to KDE. I've got gnome running. How do I change it? Can someone point me to the documentation? If you have kde installed then just logout and click on kde and log back in..thats it :-) IF you log in graphically, yes. However, not everyone does login graphically. If you run X from the command line, as I do, type startx kde -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Foreman, roving paving crew, Dept. of Roads, Hades. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[newbie-it] Gnome
Ciao a tutti. QUalcuno di voi ha gnome funzionante nautilus compreso? Vi seccherebbe mandarmi la lista dei pacchetti che avete installato? Tmeo a me ne manchi uno o due perche' per esempio nautilus non si apre. Ciao Luigi -- Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Via San Lorenzo 53, 56127 Pisa Tel.: +39/0347/8707210 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] Gnome
Nell'anno di grazia 14:13, martedì 16 ottobre 2001, Voi, Messer Luigi De Pascale, avete scritto: QUalcuno di voi ha gnome funzionante nautilus compreso? Vi seccherebbe mandarmi la lista dei pacchetti che avete installato? Di nautilus ho installato: nautilus - nautilus-trilobite (che pero' e' un residuo dalla 8.0, ed ha i giorni contati :P) - nautilus-mozilla. Cmq i pacchetti di nautilus attualmente sono nautilus, nautilus-devel e nautilus-mozilla Prova ad eseguire nautilus da terminale e guarda che errori escono. -- LUsr. #210970 - LMach. #98222 Cocktail MDK con 75%/8.1 e 25%/8.2 su 2.4.10. Cooker per sempre :)
[newbie] Ximian Gnome
I've just installed Ximian on to my LM 8.0 system (updated with the last MandrakeFreq) and all my desktop icons and links have gone. I don't really like a bare desktop and can't see how to create new icons/launchers, so how do I rescue things and get back the old Mandrake ones? Thanks David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
When you first logged into Ximian GNOME, you would have been greeted with the Ximian Doorman. The Doorman would have given you the choice of having Nautilus, GMC or nothing at all to manage your desktop. If you chose the third option (nothing at all), you will not have any desktop icons. You can invoke the Doorman again with the command doorman. or as I recently found on the ximian site in a terminal window doorman-reset, then quit gnome (and X) logout and back in again, you will get a fresh doorman, and pick the second option (for custom options) Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome -- Thanks
Thanks. --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Johnson wrote: I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) The traditional Linux way is to require mounting. At least two utilities exist to automatically mount, and I believe one of these is included with Mandrake, most versions. In addition, Mandrake includes floppy disk and CD-Rom icons on the (KDE, at least) desktop which let you easily access the floppy and CD-Rom. (I don't know if they make use of the automount utilities, or if mount is part of the command that is executed when the icon is clicked (or double clicked, or whatever). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome -- Thanks,
Peter Rymshaw wrote: Thanks for the info. Since I come from Win, I guess I'll keep things simple with KDE...for now. I just downloaded Ximian GNOME and it seems to be pretty easy to use. I don't like the term user friendly, because that usually means limited configuration. Ximian seems to be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I took the option to download and install from the internet and it took 9 hours, but the installer did everything, with only a few questions. You can't beat that for making it easy for newbies. Thanx once more to Sridhar for posting the info about Ximian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE/Gnome
Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:29 PM To: Mandrake help Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
First and foremost, there are others REALLY good alternatives to KDE and GNOME in Desktop Managers like WindowMaker (www.windowmaker.org) but you can live perfeclty well with something like BlackBox (but just a window manager, that can be integrated to the kwc and kpanel) and well, if you don;t have 40 MB Ram to waist in KDE or GNOME, you can live happy with those alternatives . . just a thougt . . . Lionel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:33 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:29 PM To: Mandrake help Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
I too recently dl'ed ximian and went with it over kde. Its a bit quicker IMHO. I could never get kde apps to comile on my system so I was laways using gnome apps (gcdmaster, sylpheed, pan, gcombust, zapping). Nautilius could be quicker, I miss konqueror (i know i could run in gnome) and kpackage, but ill get over. BUT (and this is the take home message) I get to chose, not some geek in washington On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:28:35 -0700 (PDT), Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. Any kind of KDE vs GNOME review would be very subjective. In the end, it comes down to personal preferences and tastes. This is my take on things. While I like both environments, I prefer GNOME, and I have been using it for about two years now. KDE is targetted at the consumer, particularly one migrating from Windows. As a result, it can be viewed as 'Windows on steroids'. GNOME, on the other hand, offers a great deal of flexibility and power, at the expense of a little user-friendliness. GNOME takes longer to get used to, and can only be truly appreciated through experimentation and configuration. KDE is a bit more plug-'n-play, and once that's done, there's little else you can do. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Generally, KDE apps should work in GNOME with no trouble, and vice versa. I use Konqueror in GNOME all the time. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
Mark Johnson wrote: I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) The traditional Linux way is to require mounting. At least two utilities exist to automatically mount, and I believe one of these is included with Mandrake, most versions. In addition, Mandrake includes floppy disk and CD-Rom icons on the (KDE, at least) desktop which let you easily access the floppy and CD-Rom. (I don't know if they make use of the automount utilities, or if mount is part of the command that is executed when the icon is clicked (or double clicked, or whatever). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:10, Mark Weaver wrote: Since this Gnome thing is relatively new to me could you clue me in a little as to what exactly this anti-aliasing thing is all about? Anti-aliasing is a technique where the jagged edges of shapes are slightly blurred to make them look smooth. An anti-aliased desktop will have smooth-looking fonts, which are easier on the eyes. FOr more information, take a look here: http://www.grafx-design.com/02gen.html XFree 4.x has this feature, and it is officially supported in the QT toolkit (and hence in KDE). GTK+ 1.2 does not yet have official support (that'll come in GTK 2.0), but you can add support to most apps by looking here: http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1142 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
Wwl Mark, Since you mentioned it ! LOL ! ( Nah, no references to the stupid comment!) Just a quik tip, never operate heavy equipment (ie; a mouse or keyboard) without having a substantial amount of your favorite Columbian beverage inside. Besides, you'll run better than a Pentium ( Place Intel ditty here! ). By the way, let me know if you're successful with the Ximian install. I can't get it working at all. On Monday 03 September 2001 10:01 am, you wrote: oops...never mind...found it. coffee hadn't started to work yet. stupid me... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
oops...never mind...found it. coffee hadn't started to work yet. stupid me... -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: You can download the RPMS from a Ximian FTP mirror. Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Charles A. Punch wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 We the Users, in order to form a more perfect system, establish priorities, ensure connective tranquility, provide for common repairs, promote preventive maintenance, and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our processes, do ordain and establish this Software of The Unixed States of America. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
and that site would be where? -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: You can download the RPMS from a Ximian FTP mirror. Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Charles A. Punch wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 We the Users, in order to form a more perfect system, establish priorities, ensure connective tranquility, provide for common repairs, promote preventive maintenance, and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our processes, do ordain and establish this Software of The Unixed States of America. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
sure will! as soon as i can get the entire download finished. seems everyone in the family needed to check their mail everytime i would resume the FTP transfer. as soon as I saw that the installer was just a small script that would connect to another server and grab the packages i new i might as well just find the ftp server and get them all in one place. that way i could head off the dependency issues ahead of time and hopefully make the install a little less painless. -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ Beware of little sins. Mosquitoes drink more blood than lions. Author unknown Lanman wrote: Wwl Mark, Since you mentioned it ! LOL ! ( Nah, no references to the stupid comment!) Just a quik tip, never operate heavy equipment (ie; a mouse or keyboard) without having a substantial amount of your favorite Columbian beverage inside. Besides, you'll run better than a Pentium ( Place Intel ditty here! ). By the way, let me know if you're successful with the Ximian install. I can't get it working at all. On Monday 03 September 2001 10:01 am, you wrote: oops...never mind...found it. coffee hadn't started to work yet. stupid me... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
Since this Gnome thing is relatively new to me could you clue me in a little as to what exactly this anti-aliasing thing is all about? TIA -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ Beware of little sins. Mosquitoes drink more blood than lions. Author unknown Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Once you've installed Ximian GNOME, try anti-aliasing GTK+: http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1142 On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 00:01, Mark Weaver wrote: oops...never mind...found it. coffee hadn't started to work yet. stupid me... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 We the Users, in order to form a more perfect system, establish priorities, ensure connective tranquility, provide for common repairs, promote preventive maintenance, and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our processes, do ordain and establish this Software of The Unixed States of America. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
You can download the RPMS from a Ximian FTP mirror. Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Charles A. Punch wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 We the Users, in order to form a more perfect system, establish priorities, ensure connective tranquility, provide for common repairs, promote preventive maintenance, and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our processes, do ordain and establish this Software of The Unixed States of America. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:30, Charles A. Punch wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? I e-mailed Civileme about that a few weeks ago. He said that Mandrake often take stuff from Ximian GNOME and incorporate it into their own version (it's all GPL, after all). I suggested that they have a look at the ximian-doorman, ximian-utils and red-carpet packages. They appear to be considering ximian-doorman and ximian-utils, but red-carpet is out because it apparently doesn't check dependencies as well as Mandrakesoft would like (and probably also because it offers the same functionality as MandrakeUpdate, possibly creating confusion amongst users). Ximian's priorities at present are existing GNOME users (it's much easier to keep existing users than to find new ones), the corporate desktop (through partnerships with Red hat, Sun and HP) and the underprivileged (schools, poor nations, etc.). They are not as focussed on the consumer desktop as KDE. This, in turn, puts Mandrake Linux support as a low priority, since it is KDE-centric and is focussed on consumers in richer nations (selling via Wal-Mart, etc.). This is the main reason why Mandrake 8.0 support was so slow in arrival. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
The Doorman kept crashing when I tried to upgrade the 1.4 I'm running Mandrake 8.0. Don't suppose anyone has any suggestions as to why it would be crashing. It crashes everyime it tries to apply my preferences... -Original Message- From: Dave Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Ximian Gnome Hello everyone, Just wanted to drop a note and let y'all know that Ximian Gnome is *very nice*. I am running Mandrake 7.2, and the installation went quite well. There was a problem initially resolving all dependencies for the Gnome upgrade to 1.4, but all I had to do was cancel and retry, and it worked fine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian Gnome
Hello everyone, Just wanted to drop a note and let y'all know that Ximian Gnome is *very nice*. I am running Mandrake 7.2, and the installation went quite well. There was a problem initially resolving all dependencies for the Gnome upgrade to 1.4, but all I had to do was cancel and retry, and it worked fine. I did a minimal install, so as to avoid getting software I already have installed (StarOffice, Gimp, etc.), and then after that was done I used the Red Carpet installer (which is compatible with Mandrake security updates, and so I can do both from one application) to download and install Evolution (beta). By the way, the Red Carpet installer has a very nice interface, much better (IMHO) than either MandrakeUpdate or RPMDrake. Both Mandrake apps work fine, of course (for me anyway), but since Red Carpet can fulfill both functions, plus do Ximian updates for me, I will probably stick to that unless I run into a problem where the Mandrake apps are necessary. This message comes from Evolution, and based upon my couple hours of use, I like it. That may change, since I have not yet tried out all the features I normally use (or miss) in Kmail, but we'll see. I was never a big Outlook fan (the security holes always gave me the screaming heebee-jeebees, although I like the GUI interface), but Evolution looks quite similar, and I think that Outlook users will really like it. If anyone is interested in upgrading Mandrake 7.x's standard version of Gnome, I highly recommend it (I think Mandrake 8.0 comes with Ximian, so you've got it on CD). The only downside is, the download size is quite big. The *minimal* install, which was basically an upgrade of Gnome to version 1.4, was 95 MB. It's a good thing I have DSL ;-) Evolution was another 11.5 MB, mostly for the Evolution rpm, but also three extra support packages were needed to fulfill dependencies. Have a good one, Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
I used the installer, yes. This did not create problems. /stefano » -Original Message- » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » Sent: 21 August 2001 19:28 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI » Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » Stefano; Did you use the installer? I can't seem to get that » sucker working. » Any ideas? » » Lanman » » Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
Any idea where this download can be found? I checked ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome but I did not find it. Thanks a lot /stefano » -Original Message- » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » Sent: 18 August 2001 15:15 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Tatham » Subject: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? I've » managed to track down the specific installer applet from their » ftp server, » but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the entire set of » packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive » containing all » the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight » the Next » button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install » procedure » using lynx , but that doesn't work either. » » Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! » » Dan » » Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1232 On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:49, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: Any idea where this download can be found? I checked ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome but I did not find it. Thanks a lot /stefano » -Original Message- » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » Sent: 18 August 2001 15:15 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Tatham » Subject: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? I've » managed to track down the specific installer applet from their » ftp server, » but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the entire set of » packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive » containing all » the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight » the Next » button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install » procedure » using lynx , but that doesn't work either. » » Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! » » Dan » » -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
Thanks a lot, indeed. After having installed Ximian, the doorman application crashes continuosly (Segmentation fault). Is this normal ? /stefano » -Original Message- » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan » Sent: 21 August 2001 09:44 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI » Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1232 » » On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:49, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: » Any idea where this download can be found? I checked » ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome but I did not find it. » » Thanks a lot » » /stefano » » » -Original Message- » » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » » Sent: 18 August 2001 15:15 » » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Tatham » » Subject: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » » » » Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? I've » » managed to track down the specific installer applet from their » » ftp server, » » but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the » entire set of » » packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive » » containing all » » the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight » » the Next » » button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install » » procedure » » using lynx , but that doesn't work either. » » » » Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! » » » » Dan » » » » » » -- » Sridhar Dhanapalan. » There are two major products that come from Berkeley: » LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. » -- Jeremy S. Anderson » » Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
It is just the standard 8.0, without Freq nor cooker packages (only the Updated packages) I did not install everything, I followed the normal installation. Now, using RedCarpet, I downloaded and installed everything (I think, something like 25 MB more of software) and I will see. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for the moment /stefano » -Original Message- » From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] » Sent: 21 August 2001 18:17 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI » Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » No, it isn't. The Doorman worked perfectly for me. It's not a » necessity, it » just makes setting up your desktop just a little easier. What's » your system » like? Are you running stock 8.0, or have you installed Cooker/external » packages? I installed mine over Freq3, but Ximian GNOME is designed to be » installed over a normal 8.0 setup. When you installed Ximian » GNOME, did you » install all the packages? » » On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:37, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: » Thanks a lot, indeed. » » After having installed Ximian, the doorman application crashes » continuosly (Segmentation fault). » » Is this normal ? » » /stefano » » » -Original Message- » » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar » Dhanapalan » » Sent: 21 August 2001 09:44 » » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI » » Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » » » » http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1232 » » » » On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:49, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: » » Any idea where this download can be found? I checked » » ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome but I did not find it. » » » » Thanks a lot » » » » /stefano » » » » » -Original Message- » » » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » » » Sent: 18 August 2001 15:15 » » » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » » Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Tatham » » » Subject: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » » » » » » » Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? » I've » » managed to track down the specific installer applet » from their » » » ftp server, » » » but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the » » entire set of » » » packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive » » » containing all » » » the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight » » » the Next » » » button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install » » » procedure » » » using lynx , but that doesn't work either. » » » » » » Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! » » » » » » Dan » » » » » » » » » » -- » » Sridhar Dhanapalan. » » There are two major products that come from Berkeley: » » LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. » » -- Jeremy S. Anderson » » » » » » -- » Sridhar Dhanapalan. » There are two major products that come from Berkeley: » LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. » -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
No, it isn't. The Doorman worked perfectly for me. It's not a necessity, it just makes setting up your desktop just a little easier. What's your system like? Are you running stock 8.0, or have you installed Cooker/external packages? I installed mine over Freq3, but Ximian GNOME is designed to be installed over a normal 8.0 setup. When you installed Ximian GNOME, did you install all the packages? On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:37, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: Thanks a lot, indeed. After having installed Ximian, the doorman application crashes continuosly (Segmentation fault). Is this normal ? /stefano » -Original Message- » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan » Sent: 21 August 2001 09:44 » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI » Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1232 » » On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:49, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: » Any idea where this download can be found? I checked » ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome but I did not find it. » » Thanks a lot » » /stefano » » » -Original Message- » » From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman » » Sent: 18 August 2001 15:15 » » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » » Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Tatham » » Subject: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation » » » » » » Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? I've » » managed to track down the specific installer applet from their » » ftp server, » » but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the » entire set of » » packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive » » containing all » » the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight » » the Next » » button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install » » procedure » » using lynx , but that doesn't work either. » » » » Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! » » » » Dan » » » » » » -- » Sridhar Dhanapalan. » There are two major products that come from Berkeley: » LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. » -- Jeremy S. Anderson » » -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation Stefano; Did you use the installer? I can't seem to get that sucker working. Any ideas? Lanman After you have extracted the installer you need to change the permissions granting exec rights. By default No one has these rights. Since the 8.0 support is not yet official you will not be able to download from any of the mirror sites, only from the RedCarpet site. Be warned that it is slow, even with DSL I can pull from there no faster than 30kbs. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 04:19, Charles A Edwards wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefano POGLIANI Subject: Re: [newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation Stefano; Did you use the installer? I can't seem to get that sucker working. Any ideas? Lanman After you have extracted the installer you need to change the permissions granting exec rights. By default No one has these rights. Since the 8.0 support is not yet official you will not be able to download from any of the mirror sites, only from the RedCarpet site. Be warned that it is slow, even with DSL I can pull from there no faster than 30kbs. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. That, according to messages from Ximian employees on their mailing list, is the only thing keeping Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0 from being released officially. They haven't updated all their mirrors with the Mandrake version, and if they announce it they'll have a huge rush to download it. The product itself, however, is 100% complete. I've been using it for a few days and I like what I see. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0 is out!!!
It hasn't been officially released as of yet, but Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0 is now available. Binary RPMs can be found at ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/ximian/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/ Source RPMs can be found at ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/ximian/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/source/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian-Gnome Installation
Has anyone found out how to install Ximian-Gnome on Mandrake 8.0? I've managed to track down the specific installer applet from their ftp server, but during the install startup it fails. I downloaded the entire set of packages, and tried to re-point the installer to the archive containing all the RPM's, but when I do it, the installer refuses to highlight the Next button, and I can't continue. Ximian even has a alternate install procedure using lynx , but that doesn't work either. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Resetting Gnome
Hello! I'd like to restore Gnome to its original settings after intallation; haow can I do it? Thanks, Corrado
Re: [newbie] Resetting Gnome
In a message dated 6/29/2001 9:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Start Gnome holding down the Ctrl Shift keys simultaneously...that's it! Mike Hello! I'd like to restore Gnome to its original settings after intallation; haow can I do it? Thanks, Corrado
Re: [newbie] KDE, GNOME start-up problems
Or you can just use the command to start x by typing startx Andrew On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Michael Scottaline wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings from O-town, Mickey-ville aka Orlando, FL! I have Mandrake 7.2 installed on a Gateway laptop. Each and every time I boot-up the laptop Mandrake defaults to 'console' mode. I can't figure out how to start KDE or GNOME. I have KDE set as my default X Window environment. Any advice would be much appreciated... = Why not edit /etc/inittab Find the line that has: id:3:initdefault and change the 3 to a 5. (gui mode) HTH, Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Andrew Rice Jr Technical Support Specialist Leapfrog Technologies L, L, C. www.abilene.com www.bitstreet.com (915) 677-7900
[newbie] KDE, GNOME start-up problems
Greetings from O-town, Mickey-ville aka Orlando, FL! I have Mandrake 7.2 installed on a Gateway laptop. Each and every time I boot-up the laptop Mandrake defaults to 'console' mode. I can't figure out how to start KDE or GNOME. I have KDE set as my default X Window environment. Any advice would be much appreciated... Peace! Andrew
Re: [newbie] KDE, GNOME start-up problems
will it boot to a gui if you type in startx? startkde? If not you most likely have a video card or monitor config problem. u may have to run xfconfig, but first find our your video card's actually memory, your monitor's horizonal and vertical sync rates (there are some defaults to choose from, but you need to get real close), and keyboard mouse types. -s On Thursday 08 February 2001 09:59 pm, you wrote: Greetings from O-town, Mickey-ville aka Orlando, FL! I have Mandrake 7.2 installed on a Gateway laptop. Each and every time I boot-up the laptop Mandrake defaults to 'console' mode. I can't figure out how to start KDE or GNOME. I have KDE set as my default X Window environment. Any advice would be much appreciated... Peace! Andrew
Re: [newbie] KDE, GNOME start-up problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings from O-town, Mickey-ville aka Orlando, FL! I have Mandrake 7.2 installed on a Gateway laptop. Each and every time I boot-up the laptop Mandrake defaults to 'console' mode. I can't figure out how to start KDE or GNOME. I have KDE set as my default X Window environment. Any advice would be much appreciated... = Why not edit /etc/inittab Find the line that has: id:3:initdefault and change the 3 to a 5. (gui mode) HTH, Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
RE: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
"Thio Yu Jin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:43:01 AM 1/20/01 Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin *haha* now you are starting a war. =) just kidding. i like E because it doesn't look like windows... no icons on the desktop. no menu bar at the bottom. i like the pagers as they make it easy to jump from one desktop to another. the eyecandy is great... i mean really really nice. sometimes i just turn off all the lights and look at the screen. =) it is very easy to customize, and tho some of the things are a bit difficult to figure out, once you get the hang of it cutomizing the menus, desktop, blah blah blah is really easy. it also comes with some nice themes, and you can download many more. it really is all just a matter of personal taste, and i would rather have a "slicker" interface that is a bit slower. i'm not in that much of a hurry. =) also, the E "team" (they are more like leaderless bandits) is working on Enlightenment 17. my understanding is they are completely recoding much of it, and expect the whole thing to be much faster, smoother, even easier to configure and there has been talk of an integreated file manager (don't quote me on the last one). so i think things will be much much better. also, Eterm is great. hey Civilme Mandrake, can we have Eterm 9.1 in the next release? i use it it's perfectly stable as far as i can tell. that would be the bomb. remember, to say E is "better" than X, Y or Z all depends on exactly what you want to do. for many users Blackbox or KDE or Gome is "better". this is what i like about the mandrake package. they give you a whole bunch of WM to play with. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Helix Gnome
There isn't that much of a difference. If you don't have a fast connection, then I wouldn't recommend going through the trouble of downloading it. Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between Helix Gnome (or whatever its called now) and the Gnome that is installed with ML 7.2? Is it worth downloading and installing? -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
RE: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip David Morgan wrote: The burning question of the night: What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE? Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm a WindowMaker Englightenment devotee Same here. I use KDE when running as root. Otherwise, it's Enlightenment all the way. I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released. Jesse Yup, me too. Enlightenment is fantastic. I've also used AfterStep and WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment. John
Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
because it manages to be slow and clunky even on a t-bird 900 with 384 megs of ram? ;-) Just poking fun. Ignore me. Enlightenment is pretty but I've never been satisfied with its performance. The sawfish/gnome combination is really pretty good but not as good as windowmaker is in my opinion. I rely on KDE for my root account because mandrake's configuration tools are best integrated into KDE and I want to be a bit uncomfortable when I'm loged in as root to encourage myself to do what I need to and get out ;-) Abe Thio Yu Jin wrote: Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip David Morgan wrote: The burning question of the night: What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE? Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm a WindowMaker Englightenment devotee Same here. I use KDE when running as root. Otherwise, it's Enlightenment all the way. I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released. Jesse Yup, me too. Enlightenment is fantastic. I've also used AfterStep and WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment. John
Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
Thio Yu Jin wrote: Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin Lately, I have been using Enlightenment. Are you an Apple user? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
RE: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
Hmmm...that's just a vicious rumor. It's not true. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thio Yu Jin wrote: Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip David Morgan wrote: The burning question of the night: What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE? Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm a WindowMaker Englightenment devotee Same here. I use KDE when running as root. Otherwise, it's Enlightenment all the way. I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released. Jesse Yup, me too. Enlightenment is fantastic. I've also used AfterStep and WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment. John
