[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Spray paint

[surfswab]

If you're painting a gas tank be sure that finish coat is a urethane, 
fuel-resistant clear coat.  Otherwise, you
will have a mess on your hands eventually.

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 2:49:05 AM UTC-4, surfswab wrote:
>
> The only difference between the two processes is that painting plastic 
> requires a base coat called adhesion promoter. You can find it online or at 
> a well-stocked auto paint store.
>
> The steps are:  1 coat adhesion promoter, 2 coats primer, 3 coats paint.  
> The old paint can be sanded and prepped just like metal.  Stripping old 
> paint from plastic is problematic  and best avoided.
>
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 6:11:33 AM UTC-4, 
> nick.t...@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>> I want to paint the plastic parts on my Nighthawk. What’s the best primer 
>> and topcoat paint to use. I will be using a compressor in my garage, so 2 
>> pack is not an option. Also, do I need to strip the old paint back to the 
>> plastic or can I just rub it down. 
>> I have sprayed metal parts before but never plastic, so this is a new 
>> experience for me. Any ideas will be much appreciated. 
>>
>>  
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Spray paint

[surfswab]

The only difference between the two processes is that painting plastic 
requires a base coat called adhesion promoter. You can find it online or at 
a well-stocked auto paint store.

The steps are:  1 coat adhesion promoter, 2 coats primer, 3 coats paint.  
The old paint can be sanded and prepped just like metal.  Stripping old 
paint from plastic is problematic  and best avoided.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 6:11:33 AM UTC-4, nick.t...@btinternet.com 
wrote:
>
> I want to paint the plastic parts on my Nighthawk. What’s the best primer 
> and topcoat paint to use. I will be using a compressor in my garage, so 2 
> pack is not an option. Also, do I need to strip the old paint back to the 
> plastic or can I just rub it down. 
> I have sprayed metal parts before but never plastic, so this is a new 
> experience for me. Any ideas will be much appreciated. 
>
>  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: looking for an exhaust for a 83 650 in europe somewhere (ireland) anyone any suggestions

[surfswab]

Try this link to CMS in the Netherlands.  Largest supplier of Japanese 
motorcycle parts in Europe, according to their site:

www.cmsnl.com

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 6:26:42 PM UTC-4, catherine mangan wrote:
>
> looking for an exhaust for a 83 650 in europe somewhere (ireland) anyone 
> any suggestions
>

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[surfswab]

A thought:  When reinstalling the petcock after cleaning the tank/tube 
filter, it's critical to keep the mesh filter as straight as possible as 
you fit it into the tank.  This means holding the petcock body securely 
with one hand and oriented to its final position as you tighten the 
retaining nut with the other.

Otherwise, the flexible mesh can get twisted and tangled, reducing its 
ability to flow an adequate amount of fuel.  Especially critical as fuel is 
burned from the tank, so there's progressively less gravity forcing fuel 
thru the tube.

Dunno about the earlier bikes, but the later models have a second mesh 
filter in the petcock bowl which must be cleaned also.

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 8:53:41 PM UTC-4, Tommy Hill wrote:
>
> Lower fuel tank level reduces the gravity head of pressure by Gavin bless 
> weight.  There is no cavitation on these bikes.  A pump cavitates.  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1996 CB750 Nighthawk

[surfswab]

Something to be aware of, going in:  The gaskets are copper compression 
type that flatten when torqued on assembly to complete the seal.  That 
action makes them difficult to see on disassembly.  You'll probably need a 
flashlight and some sort of pick tool (think dental picks) to fish them out 
of the exhaust flange assembly after you remove the pipes.

Reinstalling the pipes always requires new compression gaskets.

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 4:32:42 PM UTC-5, 
nick.t...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> Hi, I need to take the complete exhaust system off my Nighthawk. Any 
> problems with this, or is it a straight forward job.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1986 450

[surfswab]

Try this "subtle" technique:

If you know you're in first, place your toe under the shift lever and apply 
gentle upward pressure.  Let clutch lever out, also gently, just to the 
friction point.  Once the friction point is reached, increase your upward 
toe pressure slightly while simultaneously pulling in the clutch lever.  

Done smoothly and gently, trans should click into neutral and the light 
will come on.  Same will work from second toward first with toe pressure 
from top of the lever down.

May require a little practice, depending on your bike's particular 
"personality."


On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:02:03 PM UTC-4, Francis Johnson wrote:
>
> Well hello there! I am the proud new owner of a 1986 Nighthawk 450! I've 
> never owned a motorcycle before, but my constant barrages finally convinced 
> my wife that I needed one, and here we are. I picked this guy up a week ago 
> for 800 dollars here in Utah. It belonged to an older fellow who bought it 
> for his wife to ride with him (he had a nice Harley). Well, I guess she 
> didn't want it anymore because they got rid of it! The bike starts right up 
> every single time with very few issues. I've been tracking my mileage and 
> found that with me, a new rider, it is getting about 53 miles per gallon, 
> which is enough to save me a pretty penny because my car is an SUV that 
> gets 17 mpg if I'm lucky! So, I'm glad to have a cheaper, funner way to get 
> around. 
>
> Now, for 800 dollars, the bike is great, but not without issues! Here are 
> a few that this group may be able to help me with:
> 1) The bike's paint is a purple metallic color. This is alright by me, but 
> I can tell it is a imperfect custom job. I'll likely repaint.
> 2) The Tachometer bounces wildely and never shows the actual RPM.
> 3) The shifter often has a hard time getting into neutral at a stop. That 
> is, when I go to park the bike, I have to hold the clutch in while I wheel 
> myself into my spot because the shifter seems to skip neutral both from 
> first to second and second to first. Is this a common issue? Or is this a 
> design feature? I can't quite tell!
> 4) The chain seems a tad loose. How tight should the chain be? 
> 5) I don't have a name for her yet! Any suggestions? 
> 6) Are there any common concerns or issues I need to search out here? 
>
> I'm fairly confident in my mechanical abilities, but I've never worked on 
> a motorcycle in my life and I'm eager to find a mentor (or a group of them 
> here!).
>
> Thanks for listening! 
>
> -Francis
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750 windshield and backrest both Hondaline

[surfswab]

That is a helluva deal, if you live in the area.  Probly pricey to ship, 
tho, if you don't.

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 12:48:40 PM UTC-4, bobc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/mcy/6626332740.html
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: How much warm up is needed?

[surfswab]

I used to live in a densely populated neighborhood and had the same 
problem.  Solved it by parking the bike where I could "duck walk" it (sit 
astride and push with my feet) down a slight incline to the street, away 
from bedroom windows and the like, before starting it.  Nighthawks are 
notoriously cold-blooded and require lengthy warm up, so the solution 
worked well.  No complaints from the neighbors..



On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 7:51:27 AM UTC-4, biloxi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all, just got a 1998 750, and I love it. I'm also a fairly new rider 
> - I've ridden my father's motorcycle (a '75 Norton Commando 850 - he's very 
> trusting), but this is my first to own after taking a riding course/getting 
> my endorsement.
>
> I have not problems getting 'er started, but my question is about how soon 
> I can very slowly ride away after starting. I live very close to some nice 
> neighbors, and I don't want to let the bike idle for a few minutes when I'm 
> wanting to leave early in the morning. I have 15 mph streets and a park 
> around me, and would like to start her up and ride off to the park to do a 
> few slow laps to bring up the temperature.
>
> Any problems with doing this regarding wear/tear or a risk of stalling the 
> engine in a turn?
>
> Thanks so much, glad to have found this group.
> -Matthew
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: So I’ve just started having a mechanical issue

[surfswab]

Still another idea:

Read the thread "Oil in the airbox of my cb650sc" posted here a couple days 
ago.  Empty the crankcase ventilation collection tube as described if you 
haven't done so recently (or ever).  

Backed up excess liquid from that tube into the airbox can cause a 
difficult-to-diagnose array of engine issues like you're describing (rough 
running, hard starting, rich mixture, etc.)

Always better to attempt simple, easiest "fixes" before moving on to 
deeper, more complicated or expensive solutions.



On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:42:24 PM UTC-4, Fitz wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
> So for the past week my bike hard to start, seems to loose  power and will 
> even sputter out, and now it’s leaking gas.  Up until a week ago it’s been 
> running spectacularly with out any kind of issue. 
>
> Thoughts? 

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: So I’ve just started having a mechanical issue

[surfswab]

Another shade tree trick to try:

Tap the outside of each bowl with the plastic handle of a screwdriver 
several times (bike on center stand).  Sometimes that's enuf to dislodge a 
balky float needle, if that's what is causing the problem.



On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:42:24 PM UTC-4, Fitz wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
> So for the past week my bike hard to start, seems to loose  power and will 
> even sputter out, and now it’s leaking gas.  Up until a week ago it’s been 
> running spectacularly with out any kind of issue. 
>
> Thoughts? 

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Oil in the air box of my 83 cb650sc

[surfswab]

Dunno exactly how it's set up in the 1980s Nighthawks, but the 91-03 models 
have a passive crankcase ventilation system that disposes of the byproducts 
of the engine's heating and cooling cycles like this:

Those cycles produce minute amounts of water condensation mixed with oil 
which drains through a tube to the bottom of the airbox.  A passive 
separator in the airbox allows whatever vapor is in the mix to be routed to 
the carbs where it's mixed with fresh fuel and burned in the engine.  The 
residual liquid ( thin, brownish and watery) in the separator then drains 
into a clear tube in the bottom of the airbox where it collects until you 
empty it during routine maintenance. The tube is routed to the ground in 
front of the rear fender and should have a plastic plug in the end (unless 
it has been tossed or lost by a previous owner).  

Emptying that tube periodically is important.  Otherwise the liquid can 
back up in the tube over time, overflow into the airbox and cause a 
confusing combination of engine problems (rough running, etc.)

So, though a film of oily residue in the air box is normal, a build up of 
anything more would indicate the disposal tube should be emptied.  Like, 
right now, if not sooner!



y, May 19, 2018 at 9:27:26 PM UTC-4, Raymond Gomez wrote:

> Thank you all for answering my question about the cylinder side 
> thingamabobs. Lol I can easily acquire them from the Honda Dealer up here 
> in NW OHIO. 
> I have another issue though. I am in the process of doing some well over 
> due maintenance on my nh,and during the course of my work,I opened the air 
> box up in preparation to replace the air element,and I once again found 
> about an ounce of oil in the bottom of the air box. This is the second time 
> I have encountered this phenomenon. The engine was leaking oil from the 
> valve cover gasket that I am in the process of changing,but the engine 
> never leaked enough oil to cause this,and while I was riding it I kept the 
> top of the engine clean.
> My understanding is that there are two lines that go from the air box to 
> the crankcase,is it possible that a loss of vacuum in the carbs (the carbs 
> have never been cleaned that I'm aware of before I bought it)could be 
> causing it? The bike has two nickel sized holes in the mufflers and the 
> engine has a terrible hesitation going on at low power,once you give it gas 
> she takes off,but at idle or low power,the bike seems like it is always on 
> the verge of stalling out. I don't want to do any guessing,but I'm 
> wondering if the old girl might have bad rings,or something else going on. 
> Can you guys give me a clue what's going on? The engine has 42,000 on it 
> and has never been overhauled. Thanks
> Ray Gomez 
> Grand Rapids,Ohio 
> Ps,I'm getting ready to tear carbs off for cleaning,there is no oil in the 
> barrels/intakes and she's running very rich as well.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Random Muffler question....

[surfswab]

Since we're speculating about what goes on in the minds of previous owners 
(aka who-the-hell-knows, in some cases!), here's my guess:

There was a modification called the "Hodge Mod" named after its "inventor" 
aimed at improving the sound of the 90s
series Nighthawk mufflers.  It involved drilling out the rivets in the rear 
baffle plates, removing the baffle assembly as a unit and drilling a series 
of holes in the internal pipe.  There seemed to be several pet theories 
that the size, number and location of the holes made differences in the 
sound, allowing it to be "tuned" to the owner's preference.

There were several You Tube variations of the process, mostly of 
"techniques" for removing the baffles (e.g. vice grips, rebar, pipe 
wrenches and various other butchering methods).  The modified baffle 
assembly was then replaced and pop-riveted back together.

It was supposed to make the bike sound more Harley-ish, I guess, but wound 
up just making a louder Honda.  The idea has fallen out of favor.  Don't 
see it referred to much anymore.

Your PO probly saw one of those clips and thought to try it, but gave up 
after drilling that hole.

So, if yours has only one small hole, you probably dodged a bullet (!)



On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 1:03:26 AM UTC-4, pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

> So, on my 84 CB650sc right side muffler, the PO seems to have drilled a 
> small hole right in the center of the baffle. Just on the right side, not 
> the left... I have mine wrapped up in plastic in the shed so I "borrowed" a 
> photo off the googles.
> The red dot represents the approximate location and size of the hole. It's 
> crudely drilled so I don't think it was made that way. Why would someone do 
> this? Thoughts?
>
>
> 
> Hope everyone is having a good day
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1985 CB650SC, WOT problems

[surfswab]

Sounds like you're hitting the rev limiter, a built-in safeguard function 
of the cdi to keep the motor from overrevving.

Engine wasn't designed for sustained WOT operation, as you may have guessed 
from having had to replace the previous one.  




On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 9:30:16 PM UTC-4, 64alpha2 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I ended up having a motor swapped into my 1985 cb650sc after the old one 
> got rod knock. However, there seems to be a problem I'm having at high revs 
> and WOT (same 'problem' with last motor too, and same RPM's/throttle 
> position), so it could be an issue with tuning of carbs, or maybe an issue 
> ALL nighthawks have? However, I'd like to rule out potential valve pumping 
> up issues or whatever the case may be.
>
> So, the engine revs freely to redline in neutral but in gears 1-3 (4,5,6, 
> doesnt seem to have this problem, but at high revs and WOT i'm going pretty 
> fast so I don't notice as much, still pulls hard.) it'll only get to about 
> 8-9k before I hit a wall of revs, and the engine sounds very different and 
> the revs refuse to climb. However, during this WOT in these lower 3 gears, 
> I notice that if i REDUCE my throttle slightly from WOT to lets say 70%, 
> the engine sounds normal again and will climb in RPM slowly. Once I twist 
> the throttle more to the OPEN position, it'll hit this weird wall again. 
>
> It's not clutch slippage because the vehicle doesn't accelerate and revs 
> stay the same. I've experienced clutch slippage before, this isn't that. 
>
>
> What could this be? I'm thinking fuel/air problem as reducing throttle 
> still makes the vehicle accelerate, and then increasing it starts to sound 
> really weird. Almost like combustion isn't occurring inside and the noise 
> is just the engine spinning at 8k RPM without combustion. 
>
> Otherwise, the bike runs great and pulls very hard. This seems to be an 
> issue at only 8-10k RPM and at WOT.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob mistake has me searching...

[surfswab]

This may be a long shot, considering the obscurity of the parts you're 
looking for.  There's an auto salvage yard in your city that's part of a 
chain of 17 locations in Washington, Oregon and northern California.  It's 
called B & G.  Although they specialize in cars and trucks, I imagine they 
have employees who ride bikes as well and could probably put you onto 
sources for used motorcycle parts in your area.

I've used them in the past for truck parts and found them reliable.

It's worth a phone call.




On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-5, pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah I really was kinda heartbroken when I found the issues. I let my 
> excitement get ahead of my good sense. She's pretty AND from the year I 
> graduated high school. I'm gonna do everything within reason to keep her
>
> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 11:47:02 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Wow, I sure hope you find a good replacement engine. That's bike's too 
>> pretty to retire.
>>
>>
>> *Paul LeBoutillier *
>> *www.hondanighthawks.net *
>> Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group 
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:34 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Recently picked up my first Nighthawk (second bike ever) 84 CB650sc. 
>>> Turns out it has a spun big end rod bearing. I don't particularly have the 
>>> confidence to break the whole engine down at this point. But I feel like I 
>>> might be able to handle an engine swap. So i'm looking for an appropriate 
>>> replacement. I have heard the 83 and 85 will work as well. Can anyone 
>>> confirm this? Also if anyone has a solid engine that they are looking to 
>>> get rid of, I'm in Portland Oregon. Can't really justify spending a ton on 
>>> it. But figured I would see what's out there. Worse case scenario I put it 
>>> on CL with full disclosure and take the cash loss. Lesson learned I guess...
>>>
>>> She looks kinda pretty though 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1992 nighthawk 750

[surfswab]

Look closer.  There's probly what you need in Cambodia,  or 'Nam.  They 
recycle/repurpose/reuse/adapt/modify everything.

Try searching in Saigon...'scuse me...Ho Chi Min City.

On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:39:40 AM UTC-5, Chris Connop wrote:

> Hi looking for a cylinder liner.. must be a parts bike out there 
> somewhere... help.. my bike is in bits in Cambodia... cheers Chris

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Short video

[surfswab]

Heard that.  I was referring to my old "neighborhood" mostly -- generally 
from San Francisco south to Monterrey.  Unbearable traffic there was mostly 
confined to San Jose, which could be easily bypassed.

But I drove long haul tractor-trailer for a number of years (Oklahoma 
City-L.A.).  My co-driver and I worked out a tactic where we would plan the 
trip to arrive in Barstow and nap until the wee hours, then sneak into 
Monticello, drop and hook at 2-3 a.m.and sneak out without disturbing the 
natives.  

Eazy peazy traffic that time of day.



On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-5, Richard Potter wrote:

> Thank goodness we can share lanes otherwise it would take for five hours 
> to get anywhere
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 23, 2018, at 8:16 AM, surfswab <surf...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> +1 on the weather.
>
> My favorite feature was the sheer variety of topography.  Depending on 
> your mood -- mountains, ocean, forests, flatlands, rolling hills, desert, 
> urbanscapes, etc. -- pick one, or all the above, and be there in an hour or 
> two.  
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 6:58:54 PM UTC-5, Javier Garcia wrote:
>
>> Yeah, this is really one of the best places I've lived from a rider's 
>> point of view.  
>> Today I rode to Malibu to get a coffee and get some delayed work done. 
>> Weather is simply perfect.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:33 AM, surfswab <surf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Very cool.  Good job.
>>>
>>> Takes me back to my hippy-ish days when I lived in the Santa Cruz 
>>> mountains and tooled around on a Triumph Bonneville.  
>>>
>>> Switchbacks, sweepers...and oh yeah, the Pacific Coast Highway!  
>>>
>>> Sigh.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 2:34:18 PM UTC-5, Javier Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recorded this during the Fall but just got around putting together 
>>>> some shots. Video editing is a lot more complicated than what it looks 
>>>> like. This is very close from where I live:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvy8GtX_nAs=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>> enjoy,
>>>> Javier.
>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Short video

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+1 on the weather.

My favorite feature was the sheer variety of topography.  Depending on your 
mood -- mountains, ocean, forests, flatlands, rolling hills, desert, 
urbanscapes, etc. -- pick one, or all the above, and be there in an hour or 
two.  

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 6:58:54 PM UTC-5, Javier Garcia wrote:

> Yeah, this is really one of the best places I've lived from a rider's 
> point of view. 
> Today I rode to Malibu to get a coffee and get some delayed work done. 
> Weather is simply perfect.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:33 AM, surfswab <surf...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Very cool.  Good job.
>>
>> Takes me back to my hippy-ish days when I lived in the Santa Cruz 
>> mountains and tooled around on a Triumph Bonneville.  
>>
>> Switchbacks, sweepers...and oh yeah, the Pacific Coast Highway!  
>>
>> Sigh.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 2:34:18 PM UTC-5, Javier Garcia wrote:
>>
>>> I recorded this during the Fall but just got around putting together 
>>> some shots. Video editing is a lot more complicated than what it looks 
>>> like. This is very close from where I live:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvy8GtX_nAs=youtu.be
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> Javier.
>>>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Short video

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Very cool.  Good job.

Takes me back to my hippy-ish days when I lived in the Santa Cruz mountains 
and tooled around on a Triumph Bonneville.  

Switchbacks, sweepers...and oh yeah, the Pacific Coast Highway!  

Sigh.


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> I recorded this during the Fall but just got around putting together some 
> shots. Video editing is a lot more complicated than what it looks like. 
> This is very close from where I live:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvy8GtX_nAs=youtu.be
>
> enjoy,
> Javier.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Unlikely bikers

[surfswab]

Stumbled across this very interesting piece during a nocturnal netcrawl.  
Fascinating how the motorcycle mystique crosses cultural boundaries:

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-baghdad-bikes-2017-story.html

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2002 Nighthawk 750 seems to miss at steady speeds.

[surfswab]

Also:

If you see evidence the vented oil/water liquid has backed up into the 
airbox, remove the air filter and clean the inside of the box.  Check the 
filter for contamination and replace if needed.  It's possible backed up 
fluid can get sucked through the filter and into the carbs, causing the 
symptom you describe.



On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 11:52:55 AM UTC-4, surfswab wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 11:44:39 AM UTC-4, surfswab wrote:
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> There is a clear plastic tube (could be stained brown from oil/water 
>> condensation) running from the underside of the air box on the left side of 
>> the bike down to the ground in front of the rear tire.  It should have a 
>> plastic plug in the end of it.  Remove the plug and let the tube drain, 
>> then replace the plug.  
>>
>> This is a passive crankcase vent system which collects vapor from the 
>> heating and cooling cycles of the crankcase oil and whatever moisture is 
>> produced by that process.  The tube should be emptied periodically as part 
>> of regular maintenance.  If the moisture backs up in that tube, it can 
>> produce all sorts of weird symptoms.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 10:12:28 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> It has 10.8K miles on the bike.  It looks brand new which is why I 
>>> bought it!  Thanks for the feedback as well!
>>
>>

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2002 Nighthawk 750 seems to miss at steady speeds.

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On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 11:44:39 AM UTC-4, surfswab wrote:
>
> Try this:
>
> There is a clear plastic tube (could be stained brown from oil/water 
> condensation) running from the underside of the air box on the left side of 
> the bike down to the ground in front of the rear tire.  It should have a 
> plastic plug in the end of it.  Remove the plug and let the tube drain, 
> then replace the plug.  
>
> This is a passive crankcase vent system which collects vapor from the 
> heating and cooling cycles of the crankcase oil and whatever moisture is 
> produced by that process.  The tube should be emptied periodically as part 
> of regular maintenance.  If the moisture backs up in that tube, it can 
> produce all sorts of weird symptoms.
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 10:12:28 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
>> It has 10.8K miles on the bike.  It looks brand new which is why I bought 
>> it!  Thanks for the feedback as well!
>
>

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2002 Nighthawk 750 seems to miss at steady speeds.

[surfswab]

Try this:

There is a clear plastic tube (could be stained brown from oil/water 
condensation) running from the underside of the air box on the left side of 
the bike down to the ground in front of the rear tire.  It should have a 
plastic plug in the end of it.  Remove the plug and let the tube drain, 
then replace the plug.  

This is a passive crankcase vent system which collects vapor from the 
heating and cooling cycles of the crankcase oil and whatever moisture is 
produced by that process.  The tube should be emptied periodically as part 
of regular maintenance.  If the moisture backs up in that tube, it can 
produce all sorts of weird symptoms.

On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 10:12:28 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

> It has 10.8K miles on the bike.  It looks brand new which is why I bought 
> it!  Thanks for the feedback as well!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any idea what paint color will come close to the blue on an 82 650 side covers ???

[surfswab]

You're right.  I had forgotten that Color Rite had revised its model year 
listings, dropping some older ones.  I found my '82 Goldwing color (Candy 
Wineberry Red, or some such) same code, same name, but  on a different, 
newer model Honda by poking around in their listings.

Also, most of their metallic colors require a color base foundation coat 
first, then the metallic finish coat.  That may be why your rattlecan isn't 
a perfect
match.  ???

Off topic:  I'm still vertical and lurking, but learning old age is 
definitely not for sissies!  Still planning to bring both bikes out of 
storage and get them running again after some logistical issues are 
overcome (requires new gate in fenced in patio -- landlord not thrilled 
about that idea). 



On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 7:53:13 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

> I was going to make the same suggestion, but I took a look at the Colorite 
> website, and they don't even list 1982 on their color search. Somewhere on 
> that bike, though, is a sticker with the paint codes on it. Many times they 
> are on the frame under the seat. A list of Honda paint codes can be found 
> at http://www.vsource.org/VFR-RVF_files/BHondaPaintCodes.htm . Then 
> google the paint code because Honda sometimes, though not always, recycles 
> their colors, so that color could have reappeared in another year that IS 
> on colorite.com.
>
> A word of caution: I recently paid $50 for a rattle can from colorite for 
> my PC800. The color did not match. It was too light (can't blame it on 
> paint fade) and it had too much metalflake. If the colors don't match up 
> against each other at a seam, like the side covers are far from the tank, 
> the mismatch may not be noticeable. 
>
> Paint shops, at least Sherwin-Williams auto paint store, has paint colors 
> on like a rolodex, so you hold each card against your tank and choose the 
> one that's closest. I can't remember their minimum purchase for a color, 
> but you'll have to buy way more than enough for side covers, and it won't 
> be in a rattle can. I've read on line that some places will put it in a 
> rattle can, but I've never seen it.
>
> Just 2 days ago I went to a garage about me car, and I showed them a 
> picture or my PC800 and asked if they would be willing to repaint the rear 
> end. They said no, saying they had no source for motorcycle colors and old 
> paint with some fade would be difficult to match. They offered to paint the 
> whole bike, but not a part.
>
> So there you have it - no easy answer. My advice to myself: If you buy an 
> old bike that needs paint, buy a black one (though not all "blacks" match, 
> even).
>
> (Ron, good to see that you're still lurking. Let me know when you want to 
> take that Wing for a spin.)
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Any idea what paint color will come close to the blue on an 82 650 side covers ???

[surfswab]

Another option:

Go to colorite.com. 

Look up motorcycles/make/model for your specific bike for the name of the 
particular color used on Hondas that year.

They sell rattlecan spray paint to match almost every original Honda color.

While on their site, explore their how-to library for recommendations for 
do-it-yourself application techniques.




On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 9:24:58 PM UTC-4, Marion wrote:

> Good idea. Thanks
>
> On Apr 19, 2017 8:07 PM, "Tommy Hill"  
> wrote:
>
>> You should be able to google it, or go to any parts website and see if 
>> color is listed in the parts list.
>> Finally, a good paint shop should be able to match it.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Walking Dead Custom Nighthawk CB750

[surfswab]

That's correct.  My old '95 was silver.  My '96 is black.

But then I swapped the black skins from the '95 with the Old Yeller skins 
on the '96 before I sold it.  Planning black paint on the spokes and fork 
bottoms...eventually.  (ala Dana Carvey's Wayne's World..."Naw, that's 
another thing I'm never gonna do!")

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> The part about silver engines preceding black ones is definitely correct. 
> Maybe they changed in 1996?
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New Nighthawk owner

[surfswab]

Try this place:

cmsnl.com

Located in the Netherlands and touted to be an excellent source for 
Japanese motorcycle parts.  Good luck with the refurb.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 11:21:59 AM UTC-4, david hunt wrote:

> I am a biker from way back, now in my seventies. Rode big BMW's for many 
> years, but couldn't manage big bikes any more- THEN-I found this old 
> Nighthawk 650, that came into the UK via an American airman, and I found it 
> to be light, manoeuvrable, and quick enough. I decided it deserved some 
> re-furbishment , and it has been undergoing a lot of treatment over the 
> last year, work being done by a bike engineer in his own workshop. Getting 
> parts has been tough, and nearly always have to get stuff from the US, so 
> many weeks between various jobs, waiting for deliveries! There is just not 
> much for the Nighthawk here in the UK -especially the US shaft drive 
> version.
> Patience will be rewarded-i's beginning to look good.
> Dave Hunt,
> England
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller does New England

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The earnest and sincere ones are called Cajuns.  The stubborn ones who 
still prefer to squirm and bitch under the crown's domination are called 
pains in the arse (according to a former Quebecian riding buddy of mine) .

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, Ross M. Jamison wrote:
>
> What is the separatist group called in Quebec - Quebecua?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Glenn Evanish <geva...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> Surf, funny timing. I was just thinking of making a Rocky and Bullwinkle 
> reference, but I though it might sail over the heads of these young'uns.
>
> Quebec actually has an accent over the first e in French, so yes, it is 
> Kay- beck.
>
> I actually spoke French pretty fluently when I lived with  French family 
> and studied it full time in 1980. I found that I could read it just fine, 
> but I can't come up with the vocabulary in real time to speak it anymore. 
> Actually, everyone spoke English to me and no one acted uppity about it.
>
> I'm currently in Syracuse,  NY, and I should make it to my native 
> Cleveland, OH tomorrow.
>
> And, so that this post has something to do with motorcycles, I rode here 
> on Ol' Yelller! 
>
> On Aug 23, 2016 9:21 PM, "surfswab" <surf...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Kyle -- I think you're confusing Rocky with Bullwinkle.  Rocky wore the 
>> old school leather flying helmet.  His running mate couldn't get his 
>> antlers into any kind of helmet.   Although he did don a top hat on 
>> occasion and maybe whatever other kind of headgear that would accommodate.  
>> And I seem to recall an episode where he did ride a motorcycle (!)
>>
>> EG -- Is it true the French Kanucks pronounce it Kaybec ?
>>
>> If you're returning down the coast, there's a charming little seaside 
>> village, Mystic, Connecticut, worth a look.  Tall, sailing ships tied up in 
>> the harbor.
>>
>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:25:51 AM UTC-4, Kyle Munz wrote:
>>
>>> Do mooses (meeses?) have to wear helmets to ride motorcycles?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Kyle 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:18 PM, EGrider <geva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't posted anything recently but I'm still riding around. I'm 
>>>> currently on Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia. I got a little sidetracked 
>>>> from my original plan. Today I saw some great scenery, including this 
>>>> moose 
>>>> getting a drink on the side of the road. Nighthawk still purring right 
>>>> along. Clicked over 55K miles today.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller does New England

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Kyle -- I think you're confusing Rocky with Bullwinkle.  Rocky wore the old 
school leather flying helmet.  His running mate couldn't get his antlers 
into any kind of helmet.   Although he did don a top hat on occasion and 
maybe whatever other kind of headgear that would accommodate.  And I seem 
to recall an episode where he did ride a motorcycle (!)

EG -- Is it true the French Kanucks pronounce it Kaybec ?

If you're returning down the coast, there's a charming little seaside 
village, Mystic, Connecticut, worth a look.  Tall, sailing ships tied up in 
the harbor.

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> Do mooses (meeses?) have to wear helmets to ride motorcycles?
>
>
> -Kyle 
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:18 PM, EGrider  > wrote:
>
>> I haven't posted anything recently but I'm still riding around. I'm 
>> currently on Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia. I got a little sidetracked 
>> from my original plan. Today I saw some great scenery, including this moose 
>> getting a drink on the side of the road. Nighthawk still purring right 
>> along. Clicked over 55K miles today.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ol' Yeller does New England

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If trees don't flip your switch, you could jazz up your ride with the 
insanity of this place.  I understand there's a tree there hung with parts 
of motorcycles that didn't make it (!)  http://tailofthedragon.com/

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>
> People certainly love the Parkway. Me, I kind of get tired of looking at 
> trees and nothing else after a while. I like the regular roads that 
> parallel it but have houses on it. It's fun looking at engines swinging 
> from tree branches, etc.
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Tommy Hill  > wrote:
>
>> Parkway will be great!
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Bending handlebars up

[surfswab]

Got a small bottle jack?  Cut piece of 4x4 (or two 2x4s nailed together), 
fashion a base for it, so it will stand upright under your bar ends, insert 
the jack between top of the wood and bottom of bar and (slowly and 
carefully) elevate the jack.

Worked for me after I dropped the bike and bent the bars (don't ask!) once 
upon a time, in a land far away.

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

> Took me a while to realize it, but that new PC800 I got has both 
> handlebars bent down slightly. This is no doubt because the dspo, who 
> delivered it to me on a trailer, put the ratchet straps on the handgrips 
> for lack of a better place and cinched them down too strongly. It's 
> rideable and all, but the plastic around the bars doesn't match up now, and 
> worse, my hands are right in the middle of my mirrors, blocking my rear 
> view.
>
> New handlebars are $100+. Ouch. Let me try bending them just a bit.
>
> Does anyone have a good idea how I could bend them back up slightly? Put 
> hooks on the ceiling and ratchet strap them up? I was thinking about taking 
> the stuff off the handlebars, slipping a length of pipe on each end, 
> standing on the pegs, and pulling. Except I'm not sure I'm strong enough or 
> that my arms are long enough to add take advantage of the lever action. I 
> also have no such pipe, just some 2-inch PCV left over from when I tapped 
> in some fork seals.If I stand on one side, I risk tipping it over.
>
> Ideas?
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Strip clear, leave paint?

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Dunno how you'd strip the clear without stripping or at least damaging the 
paint underneath. 

I'd have it sand blasted and go with the Color Rite $100 DIY solution 
(primer, base coat, color coat, clear coat), taking some time with it.  

At a minimum, use a polyurethane clear for fuel spill protection.  I've 
heard good things about Spraymax 2X Clear.



On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 11:21:25 AM UTC-4, Kurt Nolte wrote:

> So I think I can salvage the paint on this 750 tank, without having to 
> strip and repaint it. I really just want something that will stand up to 
> fueling.
>
> My plan at the moment is to give it a good bath, strip away the rest of 
> the clear up top, then respray, trying to blend it into the remaining clear 
> and sand it smooth afterward.
>
> What do you folks think? Doable? It won't look the greatest, I know, but...
>
>
> ​
>  20160326_104621.jpg 
> 
> ​​
>  20160326_104616.jpg 
> 
> ​
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Bought another PC800

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Judging from the photo, it looks like you could add a spacer of some sort, 
maybe a piece of wood, between the stanchion and the backrest at the top 
(where the two bolts screw into the backrest) then reassemble with longer 
bolts.

Just a thought...and probly pretty fiddly getting the measurements just 
right.

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 2:23:26 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

> Weird story but I traded one of my c/l Magnas plus some cash for a 1994 
> pc800 this week. Two in my garage now. One will become my main trip bike 
> and the other the sacrificial lamb. Not sure right now which one I'll ride 
> up to Maine this July. Each has its strong and weak points. Ol' Yeller's 
> role is diminished but there's no way I could betray such a loyal friend by 
> selling her to a stranger. Still love the feel of the Nighthawk.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Jay Leno is probly salivating over this barn find

[surfswab]

Interesting article about some really old motorcycles

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosmotorbikes/secret-hoard-of-ultra-rare-motorcycles-found-in-barn/ar-BBo72Hu?ocid=spartandhp

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Guys...you HAVE to watch this one!

[surfswab]

I had the good fortune to live in Santa Cruz for a couple years back in the 
day ('70s) and made the trip up the Oregon coast a couple times.  I coulda 
been the oldtimer with the beard and the beat up Triumph he mentioned.

Awesome, spectacular scenery.  Words don't do it justice.  You have to go 
there and experience it to really appreciate it.

This guy's had some video production experience, judging from the variety 
of scenes and camera points of view.  I like that he placed his camera in 
the woods, for instance, then rode by on the highway to break up the 
monotony of the helmet can, bike mounted point of view you see in so many 
moto videos.

I don't get the jagged windshield deal, either.  Looks like a recipe for a 
severed jugular in the event of sudden stop (!)



On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:

> If you want to see a TRULY entertaining video of taking a trip on a 
> motorcycle CHECK THIS ONE OUT 
> 
>
>
> *Paul LeBoutillier *
> *www.hondanighthawks.net *
> Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group 
> 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I went and did it...

[surfswab]

Works for me...just say the word.

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>
> Haha! Now THERE'S an idea!! :)
>
>
> *Paul LeBoutillier *
> *www.hondanighthawks.net <http://www.hondanighthawks.net/>*
> Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, EGrider <geva...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Or you could buy your old Gold Wing back from surfswab and I'll ride it 
>> out to Oregon for you.
>>
>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Air filter pods? Has anyone installed these?

[surfswab]

+1 on all above.  What it comes down to is, if you want to ride a mile, 
then fiddle awhile, go pods.  Otherwise forget it.  Honda multi-carb gurus 
got it right with the constant velocity airbox concept.  Too many 
side-of-the-road-screwdriver-prone variables otherwise.  

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:43:56 AM UTC-5, Pete H wrote:

I am considering removing the OEM airbox and using pods on the carbs. 
> Anyone have any exp doing this?
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Another Nighthawk falls under a cafe bobber's cutting torch...

[surfswab]

At least there's of sense of style and some craftsmanship goin' on here, as 
opposed to Joe the plumber slappin.' together some unrelated parts he had 
layin' around the backyard.  Wood on the fork brace looks like a cover over 
a real brace rather than the wood serving as the brace.  

Lotta thought went into this.  I like it.

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 12:41:23 AM UTC-5, Kyle Munz wrote:

> ...this time woodworking was involved too.
>
>
> http://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/2015/11/baba-beruang-honda-cafe-racer.html
>
> -Kyle 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller does Florida

[surfswab]

Shame about the tire.  The trip would have been a good shakedown cruise for 
the PC.  Cute kid.  Must take after her mother 8-)

Keep on keepin' on, buddy.


n Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 9:56:53 AM UTC-5, EGrider wrote:

> This was supposed to be PC800 does Florida, but I took a good look at the 
> front tire and decided I didn't want to trust it. PC800 has a rare bird 
> tire size that must be special ordered, and there wasn't time for that, so 
> my trusty NH is getting ready to click over 50K on this trip. Currently in 
> Naples, FL on the lanai of our motel in a T-shirt. Life is good. I have my 
> daughter on this trip, first time, and she says she's enjoying the ride. 
> Crossing the Everglades today. Just booked the next motel in Key Largo 
> tonightThat will leave a short morning ride to Key SWest, where we will be 
> able to check into our motel and explore before starting the trip back to 
> ATL on Friday.
>
> Here's a picture of my daughter and the bridge between the mainland and 
> St. Petersburg yesterday. High winds made the crossing a little dicey. 
> Stuff like that adds to the excitement of the adventure. Well, time to 
> saddle up and do the Everglades.  Ol' Yeller rock solid once again. Glenn
>

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stator always on

[surfswab]

Maybe no need to take it apart.  Spray some Caig Deoxit in the crevices 
between the button and its housing.  It's the Seafoam of the electrical 
connection world.

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:57:24 AM UTC-5, Javier Garcia wrote:
>
> +1 on stuck button. I have to move mine back with my hand, just because I 
> am too lazy and i haven't taken it apart for cleaning. 
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Greg  
> wrote:
>
>> Gotcha.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Tommy Hill  
>> Date: 11/22/2015 9:03 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > 
>> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stator always on 
>>
>> If not the button, tap the solenoid. 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tentative route for ATL->Key West -> ATL Nov. 21-30

[surfswab]

I have family in Naples, so I'm pretty familiar with that patch, but 
there's a piece I've always wanted to explore, just never had the time.  

That's the Tamiami Trail (aka US41), south of all the development, thru the 
Everglades to Miami (connects with I-95 eventually).  

Took a short jaunt of a few miles down it once and was impressed by how 
quickly it turned to pure wilderness, flocks of disturbed egrets both sides 
of the 2-lane, and who knows what else.  Pure old school Florida.

Virtually no traffic, even in the thick of the tourist season, and I'm not 
sure, but I think it goes thru the Miccosukee indian reservation.

So if you're up for a little diversion (and maybe some adventure), turn 
right at Exit 101, instead of left to Alligator Alley/Ft. Liquordale, and 
pick up US41 about 10 miles in toward Marco Island.

Lemme know how it goes.




Olyn Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:16:28 PM UTC-5, EGrider wrote:

> It probably won't surprise you to hear that I'm planning to spend another 
> 10 days on a motorcycle, this time my PC800. I still don't know my PC800 
> that well, but it purred right along for my first 1000 miles on it, and 
> hopefully it'll do another 2,000 miles without too many problems. 
>
> On the map, Ocala, Lakeland, Tampa, and Tequesta are to visit relatives, 
> and the rest of the route is just what seemed like a good idea, subject to 
> change. I only have a motel reservation for Key West on Thanksgiving night. 
> Orlando's not on the trip, but I might stop in if I feel an urge to fight 
> the Thanksgiving throngs.
>
> Same Garmin GPS but different 12v plug, plugged into the Battery Tender 
> pigtail in the trunk. We'll find out how long it stays powered up. I'll 
> have a map on my tank bag and there's always my cell phone GPS, which I 
> will be able to hear with my Kie blue tooth setup. If I get lost, well, 
> that's part of the fun.
>
> It's also been fun figuring out how to get my magnetic tank bag to stay in 
> place on my new ABS "gas tank."
>
> If anyone along the route would like to offer a destination suggestion or 
> get together for a chat or cup, let me know.
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: replacing front forks

[surfswab]

You've answered your own question...the bike was idle for about 30 years

Over time, petroleum products (grease, oil and gasoline) degrade and fail 
to do the jobs for which they were designed.  And anything made of rubber 
(tires, oil seals) lose their flexibility with the same result.  Bare metal 
parts corrode from condensation.  And so on.  So the worst thing one can do 
to a bike is let it sit.

Dunno the answer to your fork question, but I would suggest looking up 
the part numbers for both sets of forks on a parts site that uses official 
Honda part numbers, such as servicehonda.com   If the part numbers match, 
they'll fit.

Good luck with it.



On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:41:21 PM UTC-4, Thomas Neu wrote:

 I recently bought my second nighthawk... a1982 750. Apparently the bike 
 was idle for about 30 years. The odometer showed only 2600 miles which is 
 supposedly original. The front forks are leaking air and a minute amount of 
 oil. Due to sitting for so long the forks are pitted and I was told they 
 would need to be replaced. I found a used set but they are from a 1982 650. 
 My question is will the 650 forks fit on the 750. Also the fuel gauge does 
 not work does not work.Any Ideas Why a bike with such low mileage has this 
 issue.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Learned something new today.....

[surfswab]

Or ducking under a c-store sidewalk overhang while being pelted on bare 
arms and helmet with pea-sized ice pellets during freak spring 
storm...ratta-tat-tat...ooh, ow, ouch!

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 4:38:47 PM UTC-4, Joey wrote:

 Hail is an extremely good motivator for getting your bike into the shed as 
 fast as humanly possible. 
   We now return you to your regularly scheduled e-mail group, 
 already in progress.
 -Joey

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: EGrider's trip video is on YouTube

[surfswab]

Very cool.  Great job of capturing the flavor of each region.  Nothing 
wrong with the music either.  It fits.

I'm curious about something.  I recall you changed sprockets before you 
left.  What set up did you end up with and how's it working out long 
term?.  I'm pondering changing mine out for less hyper rpm at speed.



On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 3:22:57 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Took the time to make a slide show of my recent trip if you are 
 interested. It's long, but so was the trip. I cut over 200 pictures. You 
 may not like the music, but I had to use songs that YouTube would allow.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5G1d2L1nk

 Back to cleaning up Ol' Yeller. My garage queen came back as a mud ball 
 after being rained on at least 10 times. 


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller rides again

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He might've thought you were sumthin' to eat.  Like a big banana, maybe (!)

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 10:28:44 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 One thing I forgot to say is I got charged by a brown bear yesterday! I 
 was cruising at about 70 mph with my feet up on the highway pegs when a 
 bear appeared from the left side of the road and charged me like he wanted 
 to hit me broadside. I swerved the best I could but I still expected to 
 feel him hit my rear wheel. But he missed me! 

 Needless to say, it scared the bejeezus of me and my heart was racing for 
 a while after that. I was lucky.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller rides again

[surfswab]

Thanks for that, guy.  Takes me back.  Dunno the life span of a ferry boat, 
but I could have ridden that same boat in the backseat of my dad's '50 
Buick (!)

TOn Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Here's one for you, surf. I just watched the ferry to Whidbey Island go by.

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 To: nighthaw...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller rides again
 Date: Thu, Jul 16, 2015 1:47 pm


 Your trip is bringing back some fond childhood memories.  Spent my 
 formative years (age 8 thru 12) in the Puget Sound area.  Dad was a 
 Navy search and rescue seaplane pilot stationed on Whidbey Island.  
 Great place to raise kids -- hunting, fishing, scouting, Little League 
 baseball, not to mention awesome seafood.

 And weekend family day trips by car -- inter-island ferry boat rides, 
 cruising the coasts and general rubber-necking the gorgeous scenery.  Have 
 always wanted to go back for a visit but life has managed to get in the 
 way.

 It's still on my bucket list, however.


 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 12:39:21 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote: 

  Mark, you're doing a great job of locating me. However, that picture was 
  not taken from Gasworks Park; it was taken from the middle of Lake Union 
  because we rode the Ducks! Kids stuff for sure, but a nice look at 
 Seattle 
  nonetheless.
 
  I am currently into the car portion of the trip, driving around the area 
  in a rented Corolla with an ex-coworker from my Japan days. Can you 
 locate 
  these pictures? One is a car museum I learned about from a PBS show; the 
  other is taken from the deck of my friend's brother's house this morning.
 
  My little tour of the Puget Sound area continues until Sunday, when we 
  part ways and I head up to BC to visit old friends in Vancouver. That 
 will 
  be the turnaround point of my 2015 Nighthawk adventure. 
 
 
 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller rides again

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Ha...that's funny.  Same myth perpetuated by Navy buddies who have retired 
there.  Been hearing it all my adult life.  (You'd hate it here...rains 
all the time...overcast every day...too remote...difficult 
terrain...nuthin' to do...) ad nauseum. 

I remember:  Frost on the ground once in 4 years.  No snow, except on 
distant mountaintops.   Lowest winter temps in the 30s, 80s in the summer.  
As much sunshine as overcast and not all that much rainfall. 

'Course the Navy, in its wisdom, built the seaplane base in a weather 
shadow at Oak Harbor to insure calm conditions for 24/7 search and rescue 
flyability, so I could be a shade biased.

But you nor'westers need to give it up.  It's the world's worst-kept secret 
(!) 






 

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:42:02 PM UTC-4, Mark Weisenfeld wrote:

 Crap! Shut up! Now they are all going to want to come here.
 I'm going to have to recommend revoking your childhood.​


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ol' Yeller rides again

[surfswab]

Your trip is bringing back some fond childhood memories.  Spent my 
formative years (age 8 thru 12) in the Puget Sound area.  Dad was a 
Navy search and rescue seaplane pilot stationed on Whidbey Island.  
Great place to raise kids -- hunting, fishing, scouting, Little League 
baseball, not to mention awesome seafood.

And weekend family day trips by car -- inter-island ferry boat rides, 
cruising the coasts and general rubber-necking the gorgeous scenery.  Have 
always wanted to go back for a visit but life has managed to get in the way.

It's still on my bucket list, however.


On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 12:39:21 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote: 

 Mark, you're doing a great job of locating me. However, that picture was 
 not taken from Gasworks Park; it was taken from the middle of Lake Union 
 because we rode the Ducks! Kids stuff for sure, but a nice look at Seattle 
 nonetheless.

 I am currently into the car portion of the trip, driving around the area 
 in a rented Corolla with an ex-coworker from my Japan days. Can you locate 
 these pictures? One is a car museum I learned about from a PBS show; the 
 other is taken from the deck of my friend's brother's house this morning.

 My little tour of the Puget Sound area continues until Sunday, when we 
 part ways and I head up to BC to visit old friends in Vancouver. That will 
 be the turnaround point of my 2015 Nighthawk adventure. 




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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I bought a PC800 today

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How much Tupperware did you guys have to remove to get to the motor and how 
much of a pain was it?  Just curious.

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-4, Allen wrote:

 The process we used:
 1. Set idle to a high idle 1800-2000 range.
 2. Turn out on the mixture screws 1/8 turn at a time.
 3. If speed increases keep going, 1/8 turns @ a time, and lower the idle 
 when necessary.
 4. Blip the throttle looking for immediate revs followed by a smooth 
 return to idle without any dips below idle rpm.
 The once richening the screws does not raise the RPMs, and you have that 
 throttle behaviour, just reduce the idle to normal, and test ride.
 5. Drop in some washers and ride it. Look for better roll on in mid range.
 6. If it feels like you have to hold 1/3 throttle or more to maintain 75 
 mph then stick in the next size main jet.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I bought a PC800 today

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Helluva deal.  That's been on my drool radar for a number of years also.  
Never found one close enuf and affordable to spring for it, though.

I recall a pretty comprehensive fansite supporting it too, but can't 
conjure a link at the moment.  Google can no doubt dredge it up.

Congrats.  Looks like a fun toy.



On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 4:29:57 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 I've wanted one of these for years. Checked craigslist last night, and 
 there it was. 15K miles, my favorite color, with leather pants (my size!), 
 a shop manual, a helmet, safety vest, and cover thrown in for $2200. 
 Everything works. Not a garage queen, but not embarrassing to be seen on. 

 Probably too late in the game to have it ready to ride to Seattle with 
 confidence with all I've got going on, but I'm happy to finally have a low 
 mileage PC800 in my garage. 




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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I bought a PC800 today

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Hmm...that's a tempting thought.  

Tags expire next month and I'm thinking of getting the specialty ones that 
are stamped Hobby Antique

On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Complication. Posted a picture on Facebook yesterday, and the wife quickly 
 commented this after a 10-minute ride around the subdivision:

 Nice bike, but after a quick test ride(as a passenger), I wouldn't feel 
 secure for a road trip with this toy( sorry, Glennski!)...maybe I became a 
 BMW fan since our Europe trip!:-)

 Apparently, the ABS wrapping makes it feel like a big scooter to her, as 
 it does to many. Hey, I also got 2 pairs of gloves, a double set of 12v 
 sockets with a battery tender plug-in end, and a bottle of transaxel oil, 
 and a pair of sunglasses with the deal. Even if I flip it (why did I sign 
 the back of the title in ink?) I can make money. Yes, it's different and 
 obviously underpowered, but I hope we get used to it.

 Otherwise, I trade bikes with my old buddy surfswab...
  


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Help me plan my next motorcycle trip

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So much to see and do out west, it's hard to choose.  But since your plan 
includes all the way to the coast, the Pacific Coast Highway stands out in 
my mind.  Any part (or all of it) would make an awesome ride.

Honda is so impressed with it they named a motorcycle after it.

On Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 2:12:08 AM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 People who have been on here long enough to know who I am know that I'm an 
 adventure junkie in addition to a motorcycle maniac. Here's a map with the 
 approximate route I plan to travel next month. Google maps only lets you 
 put in 10 cities, so a lot was decided by Google, not me, but I put in 
 Sturgis, Ontario, OR (to visit Paul), Denver (brother), and 
 Branson/Nashville/Memphis (also music junkie) as givens. If you can 
 recommend any interesting places not too far off the route or if you even 
 want to invite me over for coffee or worse, I welcome all comments.

 Unfortunately Ol' Yeller's headlight went on strike again tonight as I was 
 riding home from work. Not sure what to do about that as I'll definitely 
 need a headlight on the trip, if only for getting back to the motel after 
 dinner.  It's sure to come on intermittently during the trip; maybe I'll 
 just rig a hotwire off the battery for emergencies. Too late to buy 
 something else I could trust for a trip like this short of a new bike, or 
 at least it feels like it to me, Dang! Headlight issue is creating a 
 love/hate relationship with my NH.


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] upgrade

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And, as I recall, the 250 motor serves as the lower frame member.  No such 
provision on the 750, which sits inside the aforementioned beefier frame.

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 9:42:09 AM UTC-4, Allen wrote:

 Even if you managed to do it the bike would be highly unsafe, as the 750 
 frame and suspension is significantly beefier.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: brake bleeding trouble

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All that activity may have overtaxed the rubber parts in your brake system, 
creating a leak.  I always suspect deteriorated rubber parts, especially 
diaphragms, on bikes that old.

You might buy/borrow a Mighty Vac setup and try that one more time before 
biting the bullet and cleaning/rebuilding both caliper and master cylinder.



On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 6:10:09 PM UTC-4, Melissa Hickson wrote:

 When I was cleaning the caliper on my '86 CB450sc, I accidentally pumped 
 air into my brake system. Alas! I've been trying and trying to bleed it out 
 but am having no luck. I tried the typical way (pump the brake a couple of 
 times, crack the bleeder, close the bleeder, releaAse the brake). I tried 
 speed bleeding, where you do the above and then once you have a nice 
 column of fluid coming from your hose attached to the bleeder nipple, you 
 leave the bleeder open and just keep pumping, moving fluid through quickly. 
 I tried bleeding with less pressure (open the bleeder, press the brake, 
 close the bleeder, release the handle). I tried tying the handle down and 
 letting it sit overnight in hopes the bubbles would work their way up. I've 
 tried tapping all around the lines and system to try to dislodge any 
 bubbles. I've tried reverse bleeding. 

 The last technique, reverse bleeding, got a few big bubbles out, but after 
 moving maybe 600 mL through  (the final 180 mL yielded no bubbles) I tested 
 the brakes again and still can't build any pressure. Even pumping it 
 multiple times won't build more than marginal pressure. 

 Any advice or help?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Why we ride

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Awesome!!!  Thanks for that.

On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 12:59:24 AM UTC-4, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I can't remember if I already posted this, but just in case you haven't 
 see it, I highly recommend this movie. Is available for free until the 29th 
 of this month.

 Enjoy!

 https:/ /vimeo.com/127625521 https://vimeo.com/127625521


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Slow to rev down but only in motion?

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Try fiddling with the L-shaped tube under the handlebar on the throttle 
side.  The throttle cable rides in it and there's a locknut on it that's 
supposed to keep it from moving side to side.  If the locknut is loose, the 
tube will move, binding the cable slightly when the handlebars are turned 
(even a little), causing mysterious revs.  Happened to me once and drove me 
crazy till I figgered it out.

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 4:28:46 AM UTC-4, Daniel Feldman wrote:

 Replaced my NH 650 with a 1995  750 last year.  Only 5000 miles but the 
 carbs were dirty from having gas stored in it.ut
 It stalled and ran like junk at low throttle so I pulled the carbs and 
 cleaned them thoroughly and re-installed and balanced them.  Or at least I 
 think they are balanced.  Good news, low end is fine and the engine sounds 
 much smoother!

 Here is the trick.  Rev it up in the shop and roll the throttle back and 
 the rpm drops instantly.  Get it on the road and the rpm stays the same or 
 even jumps 500 rpm and then after 5 or 10 seconds will begin to descend.   
 this only happens in motion.  Pull over and try and repeat the problem and 
 the rpm drops like it should.  Back on the road and it will redevelop the 
 problem.  Checked the cable play. Lubed the cable and throttle linkages, 
 balanced the carbs again and checked for an induction leak by spraying some 
 starting fluid where the intake manifolds go into the engine.

 Would a dirty air filter do this?  It looked good, but maybe not.  The 
 only thing I can figure changed from driveway to in motions is the air flow.

 Any advice would be welcomed.  I would be tearing my hair out but ist 
 already gone!

 Thanks
 Daniel


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Beware sour cream

[surfswab]

If I gave up sour cream, I'd have to give up baked potatoes, and by 
extension, medium rare steaks, too.

No thanks, I'll risk it.

On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 1:34:21 PM UTC-4, Javier Garcia wrote:

 People, we need to stop the consumption of sour cream right now!

 http://www.tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=2032


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Source for mixture screw o-rings?

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Not so much.  A previous tailbone injury makes it extremely difficult for 
me to sit on a seat for long.  But I keep the enthusiasm.  Still got the 
naked wing, if you develop more of a liking for one.  We can talk about it 
if you like.  

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 3:30:04 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Thanks, guys. Hey Surf, are you riding any these days (when the sun comes 
 out)?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Source for mixture screw o-rings?

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NAPA Auto Parts is a good source also.  Take the old ones with you for size 
comparison.  Specify Viton (gas proof) material.

On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:37:34 AM UTC-4, )EGrider wrote:

 You guys who clean carbs,  do you have a source for the tiny o-rings the 
 mixture screws use? A


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I LIKE this motorcycle...

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Can't find it now, but I saw a you tube vid where a guy had tricked his out 
to look eerily like a Goldwing -- trunk, bags, fairing, backrest and Corbin 
seat -- looks like he spend as much on the dress-up as he did on the bike.
 

On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 1:34:23 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 This is one sharp bike http://boise.craigslist.org/mcd/4980115100.html


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 450 nighthawk carb intake boots

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Not to criticize your plans for the mod, but scrapping the original air 
intake system is not a good idea from the standpoint of reliability.  The 
Honda air box systems are designed for optimum delivery of 
constant, consistent delivery of volume to multiple carbs. Pods interrupt 
that flow and are troublesome and fiddly at best.

If your goal is increased performance, best to experiment with rejetting 
the carbs themselves.

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 7:15:49 PM UTC-4, digi...@gmail.com wrote:

 where can i get some GOOD carb intake boots for my 82, 450.   i'm trashing 
 the orig air filter system and using pods and the stock boots are not 
 sturdy enough to hold the carbs without the rear support boots from the 
 orig air filter.

 thanks,
 tim


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 450 nighthawk carb intake boots

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Harumph!...and the horse you rode in on.  You can get intake boots for your 
piece of sh!t on ebay, craigslist or any salvage yard, but you knew that..  
Good luck with the search.   

But trust us Honda nerds...with your attitude, it'll still be a 
ride-a-mile-tinker-awhile pos after you've found those items.

 
.
On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 5:28:45 PM UTC-4, digi...@gmail.com wrote:

 look,  i didn't ask if i should keep the stock setup, i asked where to buy 
 intake boots for this pos.  i already threw away the stock air cleaner 
 box.   i'm going to cut this thing up.   i should have known better than to 
 ask you honda nerds.fuck off...


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Spring tensioner

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Don't have specs, but when you do find specs if might be unnecessary to 
have them made.  McMaster-Carr has all manner of springs in inventory.  In 
fact, if you have the old spring in hand, you may be able to match it to 
one of their replacements by trial and error. Link is  
http://www.mcmaster.com

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 8:30:47 PM UTC-4 , Joel Greaves wrote:

 Does anybody know the specs for th cam tensioner spring? Part # 
 14514-me5-010 
 If I can find these out we can have them made. 
 Thanks 
 Joel

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Headlight out on '96 NH 750

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Another tip:
$15
Caig Deoxit --  contact cleaner and rejuvenator, touted to be the Seafoam 
of electrical connections.  Pricey ($15 spray can) but effective, 
especially for intermittent issues.  Can even be sprayed in around the 
contact buttons in switch assemblies without neccesity of disassembling. 

Magic stuff.

On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 11:55:12 PM TC-4, EGrider w

 This has been a recurring problem, and is actually the same problem that 
 brought me to the list some 4 years ago or so.

 The headlight on Ol' Yeller does not come on. It has come and gone a few 
 times, but now it's gone for good. I printed out a copy of the wiring 
 diagram and spent some time narrowing the problem down, and I'll list what 
 I've discovered:
 1. The headlight bulb is fine. 
 2. The only thing that doesn't work is the headlight; neither low nor high 
 beam works.
 3. I disconnected the main connector for the headlight and handlebar unit 
 from the spinal cord from the battery, a 9-plug connector with 8 plugs 
 used. The center connector is hot. (This makes sense because all other 
 lights up front work, but I'll just be complete and mention it here. 
 4. I pulled the plug off the headlight. I connected a connection tester to 
 the + on the battery and touched the probe to the green lead. The light 
 came on, so the ground to the bulb is good. 
 5. Here's a problem, I think. When I touched the probe to the white and 
 blue leads to the headlight bulb, the light also came on! It would seem 
 that my hot leads are grounded. 
 6. The white and blue leads to the headlight bulb come from the HI/LO beam 
 switch, so I opened that up. The white and blue from headlight to HI/LO 
 switch show connectivity. 
 7. There are 2 blue leads to the HI/LO switch. I'm assuming one is + from 
 the battery and the switch toggles between the other blue and the white. 
 They're not easy to get to, but I connected the tester to the + on the 
 battery and touched the screw/solder/whatever it was where the white (HI) 
 goes into the switch and got a circuit.
 8. As I was goofing around inside the left handlebar unit with a probe, 
 the blue high beam indicator on my tach came on. In the past, this has 
 meant the headlight came back on. Not this time, though. Still, it made me 
 think the problem lies in the HI/LO switch.
 9. The running lights and tail light kind of flicker when the bike is 
 running.

 From what I've been able to figure out, the problem seems to be that the 
 white and blue headlight leads are getting grounded in the HI/LO switch 
 somehow. You might think that this would run my battery out in a hurry, but 
 it doesn't. Why not?

 I've reached the end of my electrical troubleshooting ability. Can anybody 
 make a suggestion as to where to go from here, other than to the local 
 fixit shop? 

 Partzilla has the whole assembly for $71.38. That's probably cheaper than 
 the bill from a shop, and I get a new part. Is that the route to go?






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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: From lost key to SALE to 750!

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Does it have keys?  (!)
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 7:27:13 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Well, my son moves fast!

 He no sooner got the replacement keys made for his Nighthawk 250 but he 
 also listed it on Craigslist and sold it TODAY! Got exactly what he paid 
 for it a year ago.

 Then, he got his girlfriend to take him to the next town and he bought a 
 well cared for 1993 Nighthawk 750.



 It was professionally repainted and needs the decals. We're getting ready 
 to order them online.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB700SC OEM Exhaust?

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Consolidated Motor Spares (cmsnl.com) in the Netherlands has a rep as the 
most comprehensive source for Honda parts in Europe,  Keep in mind the 700s 
was marketed in the U.S. only, It was sold as the 750s in the rest of the 
world.  So 750s pipes might fit your 700.  Best to query Consolidated.

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:18:54 AM UTC-4, ToTby Wilde wrot

 Hi Guys,

 I'm looking for an OEM exhaust for out CB700SC project bike. I've found 
 plenty second hand in the  US but shipping and import tax is astronomical!! 
 Does anyone have any ideas where I might find such a thing in UK or Europe? 
 I've tried the usual Ebay and Classic Honda sites but to no avail. Any info 
 gratefully received.

 Cheers

 Toby


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What are his options?

[surfswab]

Yeah, by all means, take it to the locksmith.  I lost my keys to both bikes 
and hadda have the guy come to me -- $180 for 4 keys made from scratch.  I 
won't do that again (knock on wood!)

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 In all my years of motorcycling I've never lost my keys. I still have!n't 
 but my son has lost the keys for his Nighthawk 250 about a week ago. Since 
 then we've literally turned his bedroom and our house upside down looking 
 for them. No luck.

 For those of you who have been down this road, what are his option?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What are his options?

[surfswab]

It's doable, but query the locksmith first to ascertain if he knows how 
and/or has the experience and/or wan/ts to mess with it.  The ones who do 
are usually riders themselves and have branched out to specialize in 
motorcycles.  Ask also if he has
 the model-specific blanks for your son's model/year to work from. 

The process is spendier than having a duplicate cut from an existing 
key, but you can save a ton by taking the bike to his shop rather than 
paying his transportation for a service call at your location.  That's what 
cost me so much.



On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 In all my years of motorcycling I've never lost my keys. I still haven't 
 but my son has lost the keys for his Nighthawk 250 about a week ago. Since 
 then we've literally turned his bedroom and our house upside down looking 
 for them. No luck.

 For those of you who have been down this road, what are his option?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What are his options?

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Does the 250 has a seat lock like the 750?  I've left mine there a time or 
two and felt foolish after retracing my steps and finding it there.

Object lesson for your kid:  Have him get a couple buddies, lift the bike 
into your pickup for the ride to the locksmith and unload it there by 
hand.  When the job's done, put the new key in YOUR pocket and have them 
repeat the load/unload process on the return trip before you give him the 
key.  It'll be awhile before he loses it again.

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 In all my years of motorcycling I've never lost my keys. I still haven't 
 but my son has lost the keys for his Nighthawk 250 about a week ago. Since 
 then we've literally turned his bedroom and our house upside down looking 
 for them. No luck.

 For those of you who have been down this road, what are his option?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk of Gold lol!

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Faded paint @ no extra charge!  Clueless.   Gotta luv Craigslist.!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: hiding a key on a '92 750.

[surfswab]

Haven't seen one lately, but these used to be pretty common: A 
shallow weatherproof box which mounts to your license plate bracket and 
your license plate then mounts to the box.  Deep enough to hold a key and 
insurance/registration papers and lockable.  And generic enuf to not be 
noticeable unless you knew what it was and were specifically looking for it.


On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 ackt 10:23:31 PM UTC-4, dh wrote:

 I'm looking to put a key hider on the inside of one of the side fairings 
 on my '92 750. 

 My question is; what kind of glue or epoxy would you one use? I'm worried 
 about accidentally using a glue or epoxy that might damage the plastic 
 fairing. 

 Any recommendations? 

 Also, can anyone think of a better spot on the bike that I haven't thought 
 of? 


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 450 nighthawk rear luggage rack - needed - please advise

[surfswab]

There is an outfit out Seattle way that makes a luggage rack system and 
mounts that can be fitted to almost any bike.  It consists 
of interchangeable parts (rack, grab handle and sissy bar) that can be 
configured in several ways, depending on what you want to carry and has 
custom-fit luggage options available as well.  You can buy as a system or 
individual pieces.  Website is ventura-bike.com.
 
On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:22:33 PM UTC-4, ember630 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I'm new to this forum and am looking for a rear luggage rack for a 1984 
 450 nighthawk.  I'm going on a long trip soon and would appreciate any 
 links or advice I can get.

 Thanks


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: need some pros and cons

[surfswab]

I have same bike and have found the following sites useful:

ngwclub.com
goldwingdocs.com

Both have wealth of how-to articles.

On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew Ward wrote:

 So i found an 82 honda goldwing 1100 needs some work but over all good 
 looking bike but i would appreciate some feed back as to parts easy of 
 repair and such i will include the link below 
 http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/4854006222.html

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb cleaner vs gun cleaner

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If his gun cleaner smells like licorice, it's probly Ballistol, which is a 
pretty popular product among shooting enthusiasts..  Though it's marketed 
as  a multi-purpose cleaner/lubricant, it's best use is as a lubricant and 
rust inhibitor.  Contains pharmaceutical grade mineral oil and isopropyl 
alchohol.

I use it regularly to clean my pistols and as chain lube in a pinch but 
never to clean carbs.  Since it coats metal surfaces with a thin layer of 
oil, seems it would attract dirt. 




 
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 2:32:28 PM UTC-5, kiwinPA wrote:

 Hey, does anyone out there know if the spray our son uses to clean his 
 guns is the same as spray carb cleaner? He buys it at Dicks Sporting Goods 
 for about $6 - $8 a can. It feels, smells and acts like the $2 spray carb 
 cleaner I buy at Walmart,bGraham cle

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Mystery Fuel Leak- Update

[surfswab]

Back in the day, petcocks didn't have auto shutoffs.  That's why they were 
invented.  Ditto electric starters, side stand and engine kill switches, 
dip sticks, day time headlights and turn signals.  

Them good ol' days weren't as good as we like to remember, sometimes.


On Friday, January 2, 2015 11:22:29 AM UTC-5, jaybird248 wrote: 

Thanks to all who suggested a cause and a fix for why my NH750 suddenly 
 started dumping fuel out of the carbs after a two week layover.

 In fact, later that day, I tried starting it again, and presto, no more 
 leaking, nor has there been any since. So probably a stuck float which 
 freed up on my restart. Since then, however, I've shut the petcock off 
 between rides. I know it's vacuum operated and should not release fuel 
 unless the engine is running, but can't hurt, right?

 Thanks again.

 Jay S
 93 NH750
 92 NH750 (retired)
 South Florida
  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New Jack For Christmas

[surfswab]

Not lately.  Moved recently to new residence and focusing on putting 
together a man cave, to include parking for both bikes (they're currently 
in rented storage)..
 
So, multiple winter projects goin' on.

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:19:17 AM UTC-5, EGrider wrote:

 When was the last time you had that Wing out, Surf? Today looks like a 
 good day for it.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New Jack For Christmas

[surfswab]

I use a center stand and a $12 Walmart bottle jack on the oil pan.  Never 
had a need for anything more sophisticated.

On Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:17:51 PM UTC-5, Robert wrote:

 I received a nice new m.otorcycle jack for Christmas from my dad. It
 will need some type of adapter built to work wh my '95 Nighthawk
 750. Has anyone done this they could share some tips or photos of?

 A photo of it has been uploaded here to see the design in our files
 area names Cyclejack.jpg uploaded on 1/10/10

 Maybe this link will work:


 http://16481440758028870596-a-g.googlegroups.com/web/CycleJack.jpg?gda=u1CkNz8AAAC0akvJQJ-RIFP2Sdw-MTeRHaDRHKh-4q6xihmsWdrmNRcEpT2PvKZxMnU279Eib8uccyFKn-rNKC-d1pM_IdV0
 Thanks,
 Robert



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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Bobber bobber Rat rat Mad Max honda chopper

[surfswab]

When will these guys ever learn?  Mid-weight Japanese bikes just don't make 
decent looking bobbers.  Squat, fat and low, simple lines and proportional 
aesthetics is what gets the job done.  I'd categorize this one as a slapped 
together pile of spare parts...okay, maybe a rat bike.
 

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:28:35 AM UTC-5, Phil wrote:

 http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/4762802586.html

 You just knew it would be a real head turner with that title on the ad.
 That's got to be my favorite bobber ad heading.

 [image: image 1]


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Speedometer Not Working

[surfswab]

The washers you mentioned should have tabs on them, two bent slightly 
inward and two bent slightly outward.  The inward facing tabs are designed 
to fit into notches cast into the wheel hub.  The two outward tabs fit into 
similar notches in the nylon gear fitting inside the gear housing.  Both 
ride on the axle, so fitting them where they are supposed to go when 
reassembling everything, and getting them to stay there while to tighten 
everything down, is a fiddly piece of work.  Yours are probably not riding 
in those notches properly.
 
 
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:17:18 PM UTC-5, Robin Dean wrote:

 Hi all. New(ish) member, here. I'm faced with a speedometer issue.

 In short, I replaced my wife's tires recently on a '97 Nighthawk 250 and 
 after putting the front wheel back on, I discovered re-fastening the speedo 
 cable to be more tedious than expected. The speedometer is no longer 
 functioning. The screw by the front brake doesn't want to hold it in, 
 either.

 What tips do you guys suggestion when putting everything back together? 
 Namely, what are the pitfalls and target items to eyeball?

 I'll look harder at everything tomorrow based on what's presented here so 
 far but thought to ask for an itemized approach.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: UHaul Options

[surfswab]

Two years ago I had a Naked Wing (antique, 700 lbs, pristine condition) 
shipped from Oregon to Atlanta).  It arrived in the same pristine condition 
due to the following:

It was ratchet-strapped (not tied) to a pallet, upright with neither stand 
deployed.  One strap placed under the fender and over the rear tire with 
the rear shock slightly depressed.  Two straps, one each attached to the 
handlebars with the front shocks slightly depressed.  It rode in a 
tractor-trailer over 3,000+ miles, routed thru Seattle to Atlanta, and 
arrived without a scratch.

Don't over think it.  As long as there's nothing near to fall on it, it'll 
ride stable throughout, providing it's properly secured.



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:18:26 PM UTC-4, Neil Dantam wrote:

 Dear Nighthawkers-who-have-recently-moved,

 I have an upcoming move (Atlanta-Houston) and wanted some feedback on a 
 couple options for moving the bike ('97 CB750).  Since the trailer rating 
 of the Nighthawk is rather low :), UHaul seems the best choice.  Would you 
 suggest:

 1. Carry the Nighthawk on a trailer behind the box truck
 2. Load the Nighthawk into the box truck

 Moving to Atlanta several years back, I had a CB250 loaded into a 10' box 
 truck, sitting on the kickstand with a couple ropes to keep it from falling 
 over.  That worked just fine.  Would the heaver CB750 be alright riding in 
 the truck on the kickstand (with some support ropes), or do I need to tie 
 it down on just the wheels?

 Cheers,
 -ntd


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Honda GL1100 GoldWing

[surfswab]

On an 1100 it's a little more complicated than that.  The visible tank is 
false.  Actual tank is under the seat and requires the following (from a 
Goldwing forum):

Remove the rear wheel, fender, inner fender, seat, fuel valve,gas cap and 
spill tray. Remove the rear master cylinder mount bolts and let drop but 
hold it at frame level with a tie of some kind. Then remove the tank mount 
bolts, fuel filter and fuel line. Now it should be free to move to the 
rear. 



On Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:26:21 PM UTC-4, kiwinPA wrote:

 Thanks, I'll pass the info onto the seller

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 12, 2014, at 10:03 PM, paul annen green...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I.would imagine similar to the 1200. Pull the seat. There is a 
 rubber/plastic holder with a bolt holding it in place. Pull the bolt. Shift 
 tank reward, lift done
 On Oct 12, 2014 9:13 PM, Paul pa...@hondanighthawks.net javascript: 
 wrote:

 H. I did it once on a GL1200 but never an 1100.


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 On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjo...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Anyone had any experience removing the fuel tank on a GL1100?  I looked 
 at an '81 tonight. It has only 17,000 miles on it and didn't run too bad. 
 However the tank has rusted and will cause problems. Owner will take $600 
 for it. Needs a front tire. He did a thorough job cleaning the carbs a few 
 years ago but couldn't figure out how to remove the gas tank to clean it. 
 Graham

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Bacon bike

[surfswab]

When I heard of bacon paste (in  a jar -- spreads like peanut butter), I 
thought I'd seen the last of the off-the-wall things they can do with bacon.
 
Then I came across this:
 
http://money.msn.com/investing/post--a-bacon-fueled-motorcycle-is-sizzling-across-the-us

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Maiden voyage, throttle/shifting trouble, and white smoke.

[surfswab]

Underneath the handlebar on the throttle side, there should be an L-shaped 
tube with an adjustment nut that holds the throttle cable away from the 
tank when the handlebars are turned full right.  If that nut is loose, it 
can allow the tube to move back and forth as the bars are turned during 
normal riding, which has the effect of shortening/lengthening the cable, 
allowing the excess rev issue you're describing.
 
Adjusting the tube and tightening that nut should fix it.
 

On Sunday, August 10, 2014 11:51:35 AM UTC-4, DoomSmt wrote:

 I got everything put back together, new battery charged up, got the bike 
 started, and went for a spin around my neighborhood. Initially I had some 
 trouble with low rpm idling. 400-700. I adjusted that and got it where I 
 wanted. 
 There was some white smoke as I revved the engine a bit getting warmed up 
 and testing things out. I figure it's burning off some PB blaster, seafoam, 
 or other crud from sitting for so long. First time being ridden in almost 
 10 years. I had checked the air filter and re-checked it after. It looks 
 fine. 
 I had quite a bit of trouble just getting in to 1st gear, very touchy, 
 stalled out over and over. I chalked it up to lack of experience, but a 
 more experienced rider friend gave it a whirl and also had trouble at the 
 get go. Maybe I just need more practice to get used to it. 
 The thing that worries me the most, and this happened to me and my friend, 
 when we were returning home and downshifting and pulling into the driveway, 
 the engine acted as though we were revving hard. 4-5k rpms or more with out 
 touching the throttle. Quite a lot of white smoke. 
 So shifting, throttle, revving, and white smoke. Any thoughts. 


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Problem with tank and side panels

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Something else to check while you're at it.  The single bolt that fastens 
the rear mounting tab of the tank to the frame can get cross-threaded 
easily, preventing it from screwing all the way down into its fitting.  
That would cause the tank to sit higher in the rear than it's designed to.
 

On Thursday, June 5, 2014 2:40:22 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Hey Guys and Gals...

 My friend has a Nighthawk 750 very similar to mine except his is a 1993 
 model. He had a golf ball-sized dent in his tank so he took the tank and 
 side panels in and had them repainted. When he got everything home and 
 reassembled he found that the tank no longer lined up to the side panels. 
 (I've included some photos to help you see what I mean.) The grommets just 
 aren't matching up to the tabs.

 At first we wondered if the process of painting the side panels somehow 
 caused them to pull back or shrink a little, but because one of my friend's 
 side panels was cracked he ordered another one from eBay and IT TOO didn't 
 match up properly.

 That left us thinking it MUST be how the gas tank is sitting on the bike. 
 Have any of you experienced this before? We've re-seated the gas tank 
 several times and still can't get things to match up properly.



 ​


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Old Yeller crosses the country slideshow

[surfswab]

You really have been everywhere, man!
 
Great job on the trip...and the documentation.  Looks to have been a real 
adventure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
.
 
Great job on the trip...and the documentation.
 

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:23:03 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Some of you were kind enough to say that you enjoyed the pictures from my 
 recent trip across the country. If you want to see the full trip as a 
 slideshow, it's here:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBKnCwYi5-k

 There was something about watching the landscape change in IMAX style on a 
 motorcycle that made this a life-changing experience,  and the Nighthawk 
 was flawless. Viva la Nighthawk!


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Speedometer issues

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Amber -- Dunno if this will strictly translate to a 250 (my bike's a 750), 
but it's worth a try.

Farther in towards the wheel hub, between the speedo drive housing and the 
hub itself is a thin washer about the size of a half-dollar.  It's covered 
by a dust cover.  The washer has two (or maybe four)  tabs on its outer 
perimeter --  one set bent inward toward notches in the hub casting, the 
other outward toward notches in the nylon gear itself.  The  tabs must be 
 aligned on the axle and engage both sets of notches in order to drive the 
speedo gear.

If those tabs are worn or not properly seated to match the notches, 
that could be the cause of your issue.  Hope this helps.



On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01:05 AM UTC-4, Amber T wrote:Howdy y'all,

 -From Paul's website, I see all sorts of wonderful looking Nighthawks.. 
 Maybe someday I'll be able to fix my Nighthawk up all pretty! :)

 Ok, my issue/question: My '96 CB250 Nighthawk has been having speedometer 
 issues for a number of months now. At first the speedo needle would jump 
 wildly up and down when riding down the road, but then it completely 
 stopped. I checked the cable and that seemed to work fine. I then bought a 
 new speedo, installed it, and it worked for about 15 miles before it 
 stopped working as well. After some more research, I read that a pin could 
 be bent under the front break cover, so I took the front wheel apart, 
 played with it, and noticed that when I turned the gear inside the 
 cylinder, it would turn fine one way and pop out if I turned it the other 
 way. Is that normal?

 I'm slowly teaching myself motorcycle mechanics (can be frustrating when I 
 hit a wall over and over again.. :-/), but if someone can offer any advice, 
 I'd be grateful. I thought maybe I could clean out all the grease inside 
 the wheel hub so I could see the gears better, but I'm not sure what type 
 of grease or how much to replace it with.

 Again, any help or advice would be great. I'll probably be sending more 
 questions (cuz I have a lot!) in the future now that I found this 
 forum/website. Thanks!

 -Amber


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: And he's off...

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Does he carry a full set of clubs?  Might consider lightening the load by 
leaving some rarely used ones at home.  Used to frequent a 3-hole practice 
course, using a so-called Saturday bag (smaller, lightweight soft bag) 
with just the clubs I planned to practice with (3,5, 9, wedge, putter and 
driver).  Worked out pretty well.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 5:45:50 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Okay, I'm feeling just a little like a rott9en dad...
 license. $87 later we were done and just after lunch he and I went for 
 our first ride together. It was a short one because it was windy and I was 
 concerned about the wind buffeting him with his Nighthawk 250. He did well. 
 But this afternoon he asked about carrying his golf clubs on his 
 motorcycle. (He's on the high school golf team.) Since it's a short drive 
 (about 3 miles) and he's a careful driver I consented but first asked him 
 to try driving around the neighborhood just to see how the weight balance 
 would affect his handling of the bike. He felt it was acceptable so off he 
 went. (Picture below just for proof.) So should I call child protective 
 services and surrender myself?

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: engine removal

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Have not done this personally with a Nighthawk, but did with a Harley 
Sportster back in the day:

Disconnect cables and wiring and anything else connected to the engine 
(chain, etc.).  Drain the crankcase and carbs and  tilt the whole bike to 
the left onto something thick and soft (like an old sofa cushion from a 
thrift store).  Unscrew engine bolts so the motor rests on the cushion, 
then lift the frame off the engine.

On Friday, December 6, 2013 7:44:12 PM UTC-5, Greg wrote:

 Does anyone have any advice on how to remove the engine off of a 91 750 
 nighthawk? Is there a trick, or a certain side to tilt the engine to? Does 
 it require the valve cover removal? Thanks in advance! 


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 93 Harley Sportster 1200...?

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I agree with all here.  It's pretty rough looking up close.  Doubtful if 
$1,000 will bring it up to snuff (tires and paint at a minimum).  From the 
look of it, it will require a lot of dismantling, reassembly and elbow 
grease, and Harley parts ain't cheap.  Better to pursue a metric bike that 
has been stored inside for most of its life.
 

On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:22:34 PM UTC-5, NghthwkLvr (NL) wrote:

 Hey guys!

 Just wondering what y'all think...my son is considering purchasing this 20 
 year old bike (same age as he) for $1800 + TTL...and then putting an 
 additional $1000 into it to make it 'his' bike. 

 Pics are in the attached zip file...what he should consider...any advice 
 or suggestions would be appreciated...seller says it runs great, sounds 
 great, its just a little 'rough' looking...my son also says that he told 
 him it has an Evolution Engine...so...

 what say y'all? 

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Can a bike run on Sea Foam?

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Judging from the info on the Radaak site, the formulation of the Yamaha 
carb cleaner has been changed, even though it has the same part number as 
before.  His procedure is based on the old formula and required dilution 
with gas to clean carbs without removing/dismantling.
 
The new formula is described as a dip, diluted with water, to soak parts 
after the carbs have been dismantled.
 
The full discussion is here: 
http://www.randakksblog.com/carb-cleaning-in-situ-lazy-method/ 
 
 

On Monday, October 14, 2013 4:46:32 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:

 Maybe I should drop the thread already, but I just took a closer look at 
 the pictures of the Yamalube bottle that Allen posted and it clearly says 
 ...dilute this concentrate with clean tap water. I wonder where Randall 
 Washington got the idea that it was ... intended to be diluted with 
 gasoline (1:3 ratio) as he states on 
 http://www.goldwingworld.com/pages/Carb-cleaning-GL1000.htm ? 


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Front Brake Line Kit - 2002 NH750

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A way to be sure:
 
Go to any parts supplier that offers microfiche lookup of parts (like 
http://www.servicehonda.com).  Look up brake lines for a 1996 NH750, then 
look up same for your model year.  If part numbers are the same, it's a 
match.
 

On Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:21:10 AM UTC-4, ewun wrote:

 Does anyone have experience on this.  I'm wanting to upgrade my 2002 NH750 
 front brake line to stainless-steel and found this Russell Kit:
   
 https://www.denniskirk.com/russell/brake-line-kits.p196285.prd/196285.sku
 The Russell specs say fitment is 1991-1998 NH750 (only).  The models 
 through the 90's and into early 2003 were very similar - has someone had 
 experience with the front brake line similarity to know if this Russell Kit 
 would fit my bike?

 Thanks.



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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Florida Biker Bar

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Hey...that's my mom's gang...probly out on their weekly poker run (!)

On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:32:44 AM UTC-4, Mike21222 wrote:

 I thought this was funny. 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] That NYC video

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7.  When riding in a pack where you intend to engage in illegal behavior, 
you must switch or steal license plates in order to be untraceable after 
the fact. 
 
Cops discovered that to be so when trying to pin the right tails on the 
right donkeys, using traffic cams.
 
 

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:41:06 PM UTC-4, Javier Garcia wrote:

 Several things you can learn from looking at these videos:

 1. In NY, red means GO.
 2. There are no cops working in NY.
 3. Quads are street legal.
 4. Helmet is optional (mostly decorative).
 5. While riding a motorcycle, you are expected to perform a wheelie every 
 time you can.
 6. If you are on a dirt bike, you are not supposed to ride on the street 
 (is off-road guys, come on!)

 Javier.


 On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Joking1701 jokin...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

 This is the video before the accident

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Goldwing question

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A thought:  Think vertically.
 
Used to carry my pool cues to tournaments in homemade scabbards made from 
PVC pipe bungied to the side of the bike.  Screw-in cleanout plugs glued to 
both ends kept them weatherproof.  Felt glued to the inside kept them 
sratch free.  Rifles and shotgun could then travel standing on their butts 
-- providing the pipe is large enough diameter to accommodate the stocks.
 

On Monday, September 16, 2013 8:04:21 PM UTC-4, yeti wrote:

 End goal is to be able to carry my shotgun, 2 rifles, black powder 
 revolver, and .38 special... With ammo and targets, clays, and 
 clay.launcher all to the range... The longest is the shotgun at 40.inches...
 On Sep 16, 2013 2:34 PM, Paul pa...@hondanighthawks.net javascript: 
 wrote:


 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:21 AM, paul annen green...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 *
  I took a tape measure to the bike last night, and its about 6 inches 
 short of my mark, but thats not bad enough to prevent me from making my 
 boxes Yes, im planing on making the goldwing even wider on the.ass end!
 *


 What's the goal?


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Throttle cables

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OEM has been discontinued.  You'll have to try your luck with ebay or a 
custom shop.

On Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:43:27 PM UTC-4, Javier Garcia wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I am looking for the throttle cables for a 85 NH 700s. I went to the usual 
 sites and I don't seem to find it. Is that something difficult to find? 
 anyone knows which is the right place?

 Javier.


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork Seals already?

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Who uses 35mm film anymore?

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:26:49 PM UTC-4, kiwinPA wrote:

 That doesn't make sense. Are you sure you got the seals in up the right 
 way and didn't overfill the forks?You mean the rust and pitting is in 
 the part of the forks that goi into the seals?  If so, that would explain 
 the leaking, if not take some old 35 mm film, cut it so that it is hooked 
 on one end, slide it down between the seal and the fork tube and run it 
 around the tube to clean out any particles of dust, dirt or whatever. 
  Picture what you're trying to accomplish and you'll be able to figure out 
 how to do it.  They make a simple plastic 'seal mate' to do just that. 
 Forget the air pressure, just go with ambient  (no pressure).  Graham

 On Sep 1, 2013, at 10:23 AM, jman...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Ok so you know I rebuild a 84 CB700sc, and part of that rebuild was 
 tracking down some forks.  At the time the only set on ebay that was not 
 bent did have some rust and pits in the slide area.  I did clean it up with 
 some autosol and removed all trace of that compound.  The seal kit I used 
 included a KS seal and a OEM Honda dust seal.  Air set at 5-6psi, after 
 about 200 miles both forks leaking very bad, pushing fluid out of them and 
 had a good size puddle of ATF on the floor in the garage.
  
 Looking for input, should I try again with my current forks and use OEM 
 Honda seals or should I try to find another set of forks in better shape?  
 I personally don't think the forks tore up the seals that fast and on both 
 sides maybe the seal is not made correctly, not sure.  Is it a good idea to 
 maybe not use any air pressure if I do rebuild the ones I currently have?

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Unlikely Movie Motorcycles

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Just thought of another unlikely.  The BMW Steve McQueen rode in The 
Great Escape was actually a Triumph 650 made to look like a German WWII 
era Beemer. 
 
Apparently McQueen wasn't too keen on doing the role, so the studio did 
that as an enticement.  He was a Triumph afficianado, owned a rode several 
of them.
 
And the famous jump over the barbed wire was not his.  A stunt man did it.
 
On Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:15:45 PM UTC-4, Joey wrote:

 Hi All,
   Sitting here watching James Bond Movies and it struck me- what are 
 the odds of coming across a brand new BMW motorcycle in the middle of 
 Vietnam? Particularly one that unless I miss my guess is a big displacement 
 power cruiser aimed at the European or American market.
So what other 'unlikely' movie motorcycles have you seen?
  -Joey
  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Unlikely Movie Motorcycles

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The five BMW dealers in Vietnam might be surprised that you are surprised 
that there are BMW dealers in Vietnam.  Communist Vietnam has become even 
more capitalistic than communist China in the last 30 years.  I'm sure 
there are still millions who toil in rice paddies, but the country is 
rapidly becoming an economic powerhouse in that part of the world.
 
The Bond bike you saw (in Tomorrow Never Dies -- Pierce Brosnan, Michelle 
Yeoh) was a pre-production '97 R1200C.  The movie was its first 
introduction to the public, so it was obviously shipped in for the event.  
It was more popularly known simply as the Cruiser until production stopped 
in '05.  
 
 
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 Hi All,
   Sitting here watching James Bond Movies and it struck me- what are 
 the odds of coming across a brand new BMW motorcycle in the middle of 
 Vietnam? Particularly one that unless I miss my guess is a big displacement 
 power cruiser aimed at the European or American market.
So what other 'unlikely' movie motorcycles have you seen?
  -Joey
  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1985 Suzuki Madura - $1500 (Southern Maryland)

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From Wikipedia:
 
Madura was a V4 muscle cruiser, brought out to compete with the Honda 
Magnas.  Almost identical horsepower and performance specs.  Unique to the 
Madura, though, were self-adjusting hydraulic clutch, monoshock rear and 
foot controls set forward 14.
 
Never seen one in person, but have heard of them.
 

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:17:35 PM UTC-4, nighthawkin wrote:

 were these any good? never heard much about them?
  
 http://smd.craigslist.org/mcy/4027825991.html


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Some physics

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I read somewhere that the part of the brain that evaluates risk does not 
fully develop until around age 25.  That would explain why so many 
teenagers and young twenty-somethings engage in foolishness.
 
(Here, hold my beer and watch this!)
 

On Monday, August 19, 2013 4:34:51 PM UTC-4, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I knew about the first explanation, the second, wasn't that obvious to 
 me... :)


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: hello, this is my first bike...may have a question or three...

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My advice would be to get your hands on some service manuals (plural) and 
read up on your bike.  The official Honda manual for your particular model 
is handy for learning about general maintenance and it has exploded views 
of how things come apart and go back together.  It's good to augment that 
one with a Clymer manual, which gets into more in-depth descriptions of the 
bike's systems.
 

On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:33:20 PM UTC-4, themis economo wrote:

 hello. first off, let me say, great forum and i'm glad you guys are here. 
 i feel i'm going to learn a lot here. taking the basic rider's course on 
 the 23rd, so this all new to me...i have the bug!!!  i have a feeling i'm 
 going to love riding and this bike!!! i just bought a 1995 cb250 nighthawk 
 with just a little over 2K original miles on it. it's been in the person's 
 garage for 2yrs, just gathering dust.  the engine is spotless, no sign of 
 leakage anywhere. needs a new seat cover, the tires are still very good, 
 and all the lines are good too, i had to replace the breather tube, but 
 that was easy and cheap. i've got a new battery for her, have changed the 
 oil out, and the tank is practically empty (a little gas on the sides that 
 i can see, and it is rust free and clean when i inspect the inside with a 
 flashlight. my question, the little gas that is still in there, is it safe 
 to add seafoam and fresh gas to see if she cranks up, or should i take the 
 tank off and empty it that way completely? no more will flow out from the 
 petcock from the bottom. and, thanks for any help...themis


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