[opensuse-factory] Java problems in 10.3 Alpha3
Is the bug fixed in Sun java 1.6.0 or any news on a possible fix. I installed OpenOffice.org-2.2.0 with the included jre-6-linux-i586.rpm, but OOo doesn't see it, nor does it see Sun's jdk1.6.0. A previous app neither works with 1.5.0_11 or 1.6.0 barrabas:/usr/local/jMetar06b # /usr/lib/jdk1.6.0_01/bin/java -jar jMetar.jar Exception in thread main java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: setSelectedIndex: 1 out of bounds at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedIndex(JComboBox.java:603) at jMetar.init(jMetar.java:162) at jMetar.main(jMetar.java:528) export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 workaround from the 10.3 Alpha3 release notes doesn't do the business either. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Alpha3 cups problem
This problem was also seen in Alpha2 factory. Local printing works, remote doesn't from 2 x86_64 10.2 boxes. /var/log/cups/error_log shows on every attempt E [14/Apr/2007:01:56:39 +0100] Get-Printer-Attributes: Forbidden E [14/Apr/2007:01:56:39 +0100] Get-Printer-Attributes: Forbidden E [14/Apr/2007:01:56:46 +0100] Get-Printer-Attributes: Forbidden E [14/Apr/2007:01:56:49 +0100] Get-Printer-Attributes: Forbidden E [14/Apr/2007:01:56:49 +0100] Get-Printer-Attributes: Forbidden /var/log/access_log shows on every attempt 192.168.10.5 - - [14/Apr/2007:02:00:54 +0100] POST /printers/photosmartc4100serie HTTP/1.1 403 289 Get-Printer-Attributes successful-ok remote lpq says printer is ready, no print is spooled, lpr filename simply doesn't print or spool. I set up the remotes to use the local print queue and the printer issues ipp broadcasts. remote access is enabled. At some stage earlier in 10.3 Alpha there wasn't a problem. think cups 1.2.7 (???) was installed when I first had it happen, same at 1.2.10-2. The 10.2 x86_64 boxes are at cups 1.2.7-12.1. Can cups 1.2.7 print to a server running 1.2.10? I've tried everything. I have to check bugzilla to see if it has been reported. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Adam Tauno Williams escribió: Maybe not PCs, but there are 64-bit servers that don't have DVD drives. of course they dont , that's because the sysadmin should not be **that** silly and will install the OS via the network instead of using this non-sense proposal of having yet another DVD, double bandwidth costs, mirror admins annoyed either retiring one ISO of the mirrors or pushing more hardware and bandwidth for it. The proponents of this idea clearly dont have a clue what having yet another DVD in the official media means. this is not your home network, it is the second most popular linux distro out there, is not that easy to scale at this proportions. please use your brain before proposing such ideas. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Im trying to install FFX 2.0.0.3 with smart - from repo http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2 It works fine on my 10.2 Laptop - but on my 10.2 server (no special difference, less stuff installed) I get a gconftool-2 dependency that I just cant shake. I tried adding all the std repos and the install DVD - nothing. Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? I have gconf installed, and can run gconftool2. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
On Friday 13 April 2007 01:37, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? Sometimes the dependency thing in Linux is not reliable and causes problems when there really isn't a problem. I have not run into this one installing FFx 2.0.0.3 (always smooth for me) but, I would say if you forced the install and things seem to be working ok then no problem. You might try posting a question on the Mozilla site. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] looking for win32code
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:53 -0400, William Biggs wrote: I had to redo my pc and lost the email that had the link for the win32code win32codecs? packman links2linux? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Stupid codec question
as far as i know there are no 64bit dll (or support for them) in linux. You can buy fluendo codec at 64bit, (i did) but they don't decode everything, i use the 32bit codec and a 32bit mplayer on my 64bit system, as you have got them to work on the 32bit FF, you can't expect them to work on 64bit opera. I am not sure if you could tie the fluendo 64bit codec to opera as the go via gstreamer, so there would have to be a gstreamer based plugin to opera (or for that matter a mozilla one use in opera, which if one existed, would probably work). but again the fluendo codec's don't decode everything, and when I bought them I was under the impression they would, but I havn't gotten with them yet to ask them or get feed back. If you do figure something out let me know, I too use Opera, I keep telling myself to try to migrate fully to FF, but Opera just works so dam fast and once you use it, its hard to move off it, if near impossible. -tl On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 00:51 -0400, Bob S wrote: Hello SuSE people, Running 10.2 AMD64, I have W32codecs installed from Packman, but, are there 32 bit and 64 bit codecs? My standard 32 bit 10.2 Firefox seems to use them. But my 64 bit Opera does not. Are there different ones? Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Smart package manager problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stevens wrote: I asked this question a few days ago but it got no reply, so I am asking again in the hope that someone may know. Smart hosed up (hung, quit, froze, whatever) and I killed it with the kill command. Subsequent launches give the warning that the configuration is read only, even as root. If I use cli (smart --gui --ignore-locks) then it works. I have looked in what I thought were the obvious places for a lock file but I cannot find one. I also searched through the mail list archives and bug reports for Smart to see if anyone else reported the problem but nothing came back. Anyone know where the lock file is hiding? The lock file is in the data-dir: $ smart config --show data-dir /var/lib/smart But it's a real file lock, so it doesn't remain once the process died. Are you really sure there is no smart process still running ? ps -ef | grep smart | grep -v grep If that line shows anything, kill those processes. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGHyv5r3NMWliFcXcRAgH6AKCE762f1BAFYFyHJTwXQdP8Y6RE1ACgvs2D syjopRmGyCdTsqu8iGMvz2U= =NsUF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Harris wrote: On Friday 13 April 2007 01:37, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? Sometimes the dependency thing in Linux is not reliable and causes problems when there really isn't a problem. I have not run into this one installing Well, whatever. Bugs in software happen, and so they may happen in packages (I mean in the metadata, dependencies, etc...). FFx 2.0.0.3 (always smooth for me) but, I would say if you forced the install and things seem to be working ok then no problem. You might try posting a question on the Mozilla site. Definitely not on the Mozilla site as it is a package related issue. And that package is not built by someone from Mozilla. But I didn't run into that problem either. I have MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2 and it has a dependency to the package gconf2, but not to gconftool-2. Maybe it was already fixed. - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGHyytr3NMWliFcXcRArwbAJ4xHGcjvBiPStwJBqGQgb+otTRMswCeODbK Nv9N1wkD9kbrI0CL9kAmUik= =oOqd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
M Harris wrote: On Friday 13 April 2007 01:37, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? Sometimes the dependency thing in Linux is not reliable and causes problems when there really isn't a problem. I have not run into this one installing FFx 2.0.0.3 (always smooth for me) but, I would say if you forced the install and things seem to be working ok then no problem. You might try posting a question on the Mozilla site. No, you shouldn't ;-) The gconftool-2 dependency is because of the system integration and upstream mozilla has nothing to do with it. First I wonder what the real error output is actually. The RPM package has no requirement for gconftool-2. It just calls gconftool-2 in %post. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Hi, Pascal Bleser wrote: M Harris wrote: On Friday 13 April 2007 01:37, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? Sometimes the dependency thing in Linux is not reliable and causes problems when there really isn't a problem. I have not run into this one installing Well, whatever. Bugs in software happen, and so they may happen in packages (I mean in the metadata, dependencies, etc...). FFx 2.0.0.3 (always smooth for me) but, I would say if you forced the install and things seem to be working ok then no problem. You might try posting a question on the Mozilla site. Definitely not on the Mozilla site as it is a package related issue. And that package is not built by someone from Mozilla. Maybe this should read: not built by someone from Mozilla Corporation But I didn't run into that problem either. I have MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2 and it has a dependency to the package gconf2, but not to gconftool-2. What's the problem with gconf2? gconf2 contains the gconftool-2 tool so it should be correct? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 19:00 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote: Thunderbird 2.0, beta. AFAIK, you need suse patched version, or patch it yourself (meaning recompile). Correct. Definitely take the openSUSE packages of Thunderbird, they already include the required patch. Additionally, you must also install the extension (but as said, it also requires the patch). cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGHy3Jr3NMWliFcXcRAr3hAJwJgV0SKZ/SdlOhBkJktJqSM4+/VACgqSj+ il8W0WoTrW3NhCMDt+iVOGA= =7zkf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Hi, I'm using suse 10.0. So to FF 2.0 i upgraded just downloading it from FF site in version 2.0.0.1. Binaries from archive I unpacked to /opt/firefox and used it instead of old. To version 2.0.0.3 it updates from mozilla site by FF mechanism. Works perfect. -- With best regards, Andrew Senyshyn Hans van der Merwe wrote: Im trying to install FFX 2.0.0.3 with smart - from repo http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2 It works fine on my 10.2 Laptop - but on my 10.2 server (no special difference, less stuff installed) I get a gconftool-2 dependency that I just cant shake. I tried adding all the std repos and the install DVD - nothing. Also downloaded the file and tried per hand - nothing. I finally forced the install - seems to work, but still? I have gconf installed, and can run gconftool2. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
The last kernel update for openSUSE 10.2 showed a couple of bugs (see bugreport #252911) in the code that updates the bootloader configuration after a kernel update. We have tried to fix all of them and did internal testing - and fixed further bugs encountered during the internal testing. Now we're confident that we have fixed everything we tested ;-) - but would like to have the code tested in many more environments. Therefore I've created a repository that contains a new perl-Bootloader package and a new kernel. The new kernel contains as most interesting feature the re-enablement of CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS - and also a small number of bugfixes. For me it's most interesting to have the kernel so that you can test that the bootloader rewrite works ;-) Please add the following URL as repository for testing: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.2-bootloader-test Please install *first* the perl-bootloader patch and then *afterwards* the kernel patch. Scenarios to test: -- * openSUSE 10.2 10.3 (Alpha) installed with - /boot primary partition - /boot logical partition - / primary partition - / logical partition - persistent device links (default) - LVM proposal - EVMS proposal - fakeraid * Various architectures (i386, x86_64, ...) * Various bootloaders (GRUB, LILO, ...) * Update/install/remove kernels with rpm - Will new boot entries be created/removed? - Will new entries be inserted on top (e.g. in menu.lst)? - In case of default/smp/bigsmp kernels, will failsafe entries be created? - Is the label correct, thus Distribution -- Kernel-version-release? * Handling of default entries - New kernels should only become default if the kernel referring to the former default entry has the same flavour (e.g. 'smp' or 'xen') * System must be bootable ;) Please report everything in bugzilla and mention that you used the 10.2-bootloader-test repository. Thanks for your help, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp11ks3jte4m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Andrew Senyshyn wrote: I'm using suse 10.0. So to FF 2.0 i upgraded just downloading it from FF site in version 2.0.0.1. Binaries from archive I unpacked to /opt/firefox and used it instead of old. To version 2.0.0.3 it updates from mozilla site by FF mechanism. Works perfect. You are missing a few features of system integration in that case. If it really would be better we could just drop Firefox from the distribution. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
On Thursday 12 April 2007 18:28, G.T.Smith wrote: BTW: As a dejected England fan my only rejoinder would have to be What prowess :'( I'm old enough to recall when we couldn't win a game of cricket, so I have some sympathy. Not a lot, mind you, and I'm sure JB's not going to stir that pot again. -- Cheers John Summerfield -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Hm... Please explain. what I'm missing? Andrew Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Andrew Senyshyn wrote: I'm using suse 10.0. So to FF 2.0 i upgraded just downloading it from FF site in version 2.0.0.1. Binaries from archive I unpacked to /opt/firefox and used it instead of old. To version 2.0.0.3 it updates from mozilla site by FF mechanism. Works perfect. You are missing a few features of system integration in that case. If it really would be better we could just drop Firefox from the distribution. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Alexey Eremenko wrote: On 4/13/07, Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of bandwidth, I see one thing that can be safely removed: CDs for x64 architecture. All 64-bit systems are equipped with DVDs, so 64-bit CD is a real waste. Anybody has heard of existence of 64-bit PC with CD-ROM ? Maybe not PCs, but there are 64-bit servers that don't have DVD drives. Do you know any such servers ? All the new servers come with slim DVD-ROM built-in. There is such a thing as a blade server, with nothing but a network port, usually put in racks as part of a server farm ... begin:vcard fn:Graham T. Smith n:Smith;Graham T. adr:Barton upon Humber;;90 Bowmandale;;North Lincs.;DN18 5EA;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:07876793607 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
On Thursday 12 April 2007 21:24, G.T.Smith wrote: For a long time I used reply-all in Thunderbird and edited the recipients, then I discovered a plugin for List Reply, so I only have to remember to click on Reply List. Once I new it existed I found it, downloaded it and it seems to work... Thanks That fixes it only for those who find out about and install them. It doesn't fix the problem, it's only a bandaid. Better to configure the list so it just works. Even ig rbird, kmail, evolution and all the other *x email clients are fixed to work well (some do), there are still others such as Lookout/Lookout Express. Pegassus etc. -- Cheers John Summerfield -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Andrew Senyshyn wrote: Hm... Please explain. what I'm missing? currently: - out-of-the-box integration of plugins delivered with openSUSE - automatic paper size setting for printing - dbus support (use offline mode if NetworkManager is offline) - man-page ;-) - lockdown mode (using gconf) - support for helper apps with arguments (through gnome-vfs) - multi-language install - integrated desktop files - startup notification support - proxy settings by system or Gnome config - compiled for your environment (a few more minor stuff) Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Andrew Senyshyn wrote: I'm using suse 10.0. So to FF 2.0 i upgraded just downloading it from FF site in version 2.0.0.1. Binaries from archive I unpacked to /opt/firefox and used it instead of old. To version 2.0.0.3 it updates from mozilla site by FF mechanism. Works perfect. You are missing a few features of system integration in that case. If it really would be better we could just drop Firefox from the distribution. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
Thanks. I didn't know about these things :( I'll notice this. One more question. As I understand other applications also will miss system integration if they are installed not from the distribution. Right? How to find which application will miss it and which will not? -- With best regards, Andrew Senyshyn Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Andrew Senyshyn wrote: Hm... Please explain. what I'm missing? currently: - out-of-the-box integration of plugins delivered with openSUSE - automatic paper size setting for printing - dbus support (use offline mode if NetworkManager is offline) - man-page ;-) - lockdown mode (using gconf) - support for helper apps with arguments (through gnome-vfs) - multi-language install - integrated desktop files - startup notification support - proxy settings by system or Gnome config - compiled for your environment (a few more minor stuff) Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Andrew Senyshyn wrote: I'm using suse 10.0. So to FF 2.0 i upgraded just downloading it from FF site in version 2.0.0.1. Binaries from archive I unpacked to /opt/firefox and used it instead of old. To version 2.0.0.3 it updates from mozilla site by FF mechanism. Works perfect. You are missing a few features of system integration in that case. If it really would be better we could just drop Firefox from the distribution. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
On 4/13/07, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so ridiculous as you mailing to me off-list as you highlighted a reason for the problem. I could argue that spam is less inconvenient as there's only one way to deal with it: plonk. Solicited email is not spam. As I said, every mail client I use (4) will reply to the sender, because the list sets the reply-to to the sender. Using alternative clients is not an option, and if people really don't like replies in this way I'll have to stop helping people on the list until the reply-to is changed back to the list. _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: What do you think about building a new one or declaring some currently existing one as the official? Though I come to the mailing list often simply because it is somewhat convenient, I also prefer forums. I on the other hand loath them. Why would I want to wait for response time each time I click on a post. My email is here waiting for me when I get to the computer. Why should I wait for the computer to suck down several thousand bytes just to find out that it was a me too post. Forums are for children. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Dave Crouse wrote: So, My how-to's on installing suse ftp ver9.1 that has 95,000+ page views are just irrelevant dribble and we should just close down all the forums because a few of you don't see any virtue in them ? Dave: We have a wiki and archives. Those 95000 people found your page with google. They could just as well find the wiki or the archives The fact that the a hammer is the only tool you know tends to cause you to look at every problem as if it were a nail. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Dave Crouse wrote: So, My how-to's on installing suse ftp ver9.1 that has 95,000+ page views are just irrelevant dribble and we should just close down all the forums because a few of you don't see any virtue in them ? Perhaps Webforum suck. to YOU, but they DO NOT to everyone else. There is room in the community for MORE than just mailing lists. No one said you HAVE to join one you know, but thanks for running us down ... we appreciate your support soo much. Crouse Site Admin OpenSUSE.us There's always the types who say I read my mail in binary, I don' t need forums!, don't mind them. Too bad that they are that vocal, though... Its not so much that were vocal, we just know how to run a mail reader and we seldom quote Princess Leia. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Thursday 12 April 2007, jdd wrote: there have been very long threads on this very subject at least one year ago, without any really satisfactory result Its been quite satisfactory if you ask me. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Dave Crouse wrote: Kind of insulting to myself and other forum creators that have taken the time to create forums/irc channels and more to HELP the community. Just because we disagree about the efficiency and usability of forums does not mean we are insulting you. Grow up.(And yes, that IS an insult). I've always had the opinion that forums were for children and you are convincing me I was correct. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The new kernel contains as most interesting feature the re-enablement of CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS - and also a small number of bugfixes. For me it's most interesting to have the kernel so that you can test that the bootloader rewrite works ;-) Why do I feel like Hansel and Gretel here -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
John Summerfield wrote: On Thursday 12 April 2007 21:24, G.T.Smith wrote: For a long time I used reply-all in Thunderbird and edited the recipients, then I discovered a plugin for List Reply, so I only have to remember to click on Reply List. Â Once I new it existed I found it, downloaded it and it seems to work... Thanks That fixes it only for those who find out about and install them. It doesn't fix the problem, it's only a bandaid. Better to configure the list so it just works. Even ig rbird, kmail, evolution and all the other *x email clients are fixed to work well (some do), there are still others such as Lookout/Lookout Express. Pegassus etc I got a reply quoting me to the list mail list configuration policy. Of course. the message was off-list :-) begin:vcard fn:Graham T. Smith n:Smith;Graham T. adr:Barton upon Humber;;90 Bowmandale;;North Lincs.;DN18 5EA;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:07876793607 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:44 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: Changing the HZ to 1000 would only impact on tasks running in the process context. The top-half of the interrupt handler runs in interrupt context. During the initial processing of an interrupt, the handler suspends other interrupts on the same IRQ. Remember this is character I/O, so there is going to be an interrupt for each character. The buffering of the data for a user application occurs in the bottom half of the interrupt handler. I forgot to ask if the GPS application reads the raw serial port, or uses a kernel module for gathering the data. Depends on what you mean by raw. We use /dev/ttySx, and configure the port with termios. Then we set it up so we get a SIGIO when there is a complete line, and use a read() call to get the characters. I wonder if the interrupt is per-character. Given that the 16550 chip buffers 16 characters. I guess I could check /proc/interrupts on the serial port and see. Does the serial I/O stuff run in the kserio kernel thread? If so, I am guessing that is the bottom half sort of stuff. I looked at the serio.c source and it was not obvious to me as it seemed mainly to be a resource controller more than the actual character processor. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Domain membership problem in OpenSuse 10.2
Sorry, my smb.conf looks like this (pasted the wrong file): [global] idmap backend = ad idmap gid = 1000-10 idmap uid = 1000-10 winbind uid = 16777216-33554431 winbind gid = 16777216-33554431 password server = dell.umn.org.np realm = UMN.ORG.NP workgroup = HQ security = ADS template homedir = /home/%D/%U template shell = /bin/bash usershare allow guests = No winbind refresh tickets = yes winbind cache time = 3600 workgroup = HQ winbind use default domain = yes winbind enum users = Yes winbind enum groups = Yes winbind nested groups = Yes winbind nss info = sfu winbind offline logon = Yes winbind use default domain = yes debuglevel = 4 log level = 4 Regards, Prajjwal Message Disclaimer: This electronic message may contain confidential information. If you have received it in error, please immediately inform the sender and delete the mail and any attachments. Unless it relates to the official business of UMN, any opinions, views and other information expressed in this document are those of the individual sender. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Caching updates locally/Local update server
Hi Everyone, I need to update my opensuse machines at times, and the uplink is not so good as it through VSAT links. I was looking for a place where the online updater stores its files, but I could not find any location. The files seemed to be temporarily stored in /var/adm/mount/..., but then once the update was over, these files got automatically removed. If there is no option for creating an automated local update server, I think I would have to manage with locally cached rpms, but then, even for locally cached rpms, which location can I find them in, and what would be a good idea to manage my updates for a LAN? The funny thing is: in Yast2, when I go to Patch-All in this list, I see that the option Keep has been selected. However, the rpms do not seem to appear anywhere. Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks, Prajjwal Message Disclaimer: This electronic message may contain confidential information. If you have received it in error, please immediately inform the sender and delete the mail and any attachments. Unless it relates to the official business of UMN, any opinions, views and other information expressed in this document are those of the individual sender. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.
On Thursday 12 April 2007 20:27:02 Graham Smith wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, michael norman wrote: So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do I get it from and how do I set it up ? Mike I suggest you have a read of this site, it covers nearly all things required to install mythtv for openSUSE 10.2 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Opensuse_10.2 -- Regards, Graham Smith Thanks, looks exactly like what I need Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 12 April 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The new kernel contains as most interesting feature the re-enablement of CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS - and also a small number of bugfixes. For me it's most interesting to have the kernel so that you can test that the bootloader rewrite works ;-) Why do I feel like Hansel and Gretel here What I wanted to say was: The important part for testing is perl-Bootloader. The kernel is there to allow you to test it. Besides, the kernel has some nice changes which I appreciate you testing as well - but the goal is to test the bootloader. Are you still confused? ;-) Sorry, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpAB2yrcp5Jj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US - Why ask?
On 04/12/2007 02:08 PM somebody named Peter Bradley wrote: Ysgrifennodd ken: What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and how fast is the connection? If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader, that would be appreciated also. tnx++ I'm with Pipex in the UK. I pay about $35 per month. Maybe a bit more these days. It's the XtremeSolo package if you want to look it up. Unlimited. Speeds are good, although I can't quote any figures (i.e. they're good enough that I've never paid any attention) Why are you asking? Major US broadband providers (BBPs) are claiming that they need more flexible pricing policies in order to stay in business and to provide higher bandwidths. These more flexible pricing policies would mean that some protocols would cost more or be prohibited (e.g., VoIP*) and that some customers (perhaps those who say the wrong things) would be charged more than others for the same amount of bandwidth, effectively throttling down 'inconvenient'** speech. One argument which needs to be dispelled then is that inequitable pricing is required for US BBPs' technical and economic viability. The information you have provided has effectively done that. Thanks to all who replied. While we're talking about it, I'd encourage US residents who would like to save themselves a considerable pile of cash-- and help guarantee free speech and free expression at the same time-- to get involved in the issue of net neutrality. Feel free to contact me offlist for details. *The purpose in prohibiting VoIP (or video or sound) would be so that it can be sold as a separate service (on the same bandwidth), this so BBPs, not customers, could reap the benefits of convergence. **It's not inconceivable that, for some big economic players, or at least one, Linux might be considered undesirable. -- Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors into trouble of all kinds. -- Samuel Butler -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Oh please. Enough already with the lame excuses... there is nothing wrong with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming and its helped us come up with some pretty snazzy Yankee know-how... you know... it can't be done kind of stuff... don't ever tell me that your scaling problems are my end-all... what a sting of Bologna... scale your mirrors and upgrade your delivery system... you must know that eventually it will be *necessary* anyway... just bite the bullet and make it happen... and stop whining about it... I think Alexey has got a great idea... and except for choosing to live in one of the most volatile locations on earth, he seems a pretty smart fellow... :) Just because you need it doesnt mean everybody need it. If Opensuse was about to solve all use cases, we would end up with a 8 DVD set, with debug information, source, pictures of all developers, small demo videos. Then we would have a 4 DVD set with only the full tree and source. Another 2 DVD set for those wanting only full tree. Then all those dvds with and without non-oss applications. Then we would need all that in CDs, because not everybody have DVDsm lets think of everyone. So we would like a 24 CD set with everything on it (debian, anyone?). Then another set of 5 CDs, for those who like old system. Then a more compact set of 3 CDs, like it is now (but we can say its just the 3 first discs of the 5 set). But then we need a one cd, because everybody say we need it, to look like ubuntu, with one cd and crappy software selection. But then we need one CD with kde and another one with GNOME, as we want everybody happy, dont we? As we are dealing with every case, we want one with xfce and openbox too (could be the same). People also complain there should be a livecd, but siome people dont like it. Add few more cds and dvds for that too. And then lets multiply by 3 all those sets, cause we need for x86, x86-64 and ppc. I myself having used sparc boxes for some time, I kinda have feelings for them, and since we are on the demands race, I for one would like a port of all that to sparc arch. Now do you know what that mean? That we NEED lame escuses, it seems, to keep the sanity of the release. So again, if you really need, make one dvd. Teere are lots of ways f doing it, I believe people in this thread are not that dumb, google will show that. All you need to do is having to do some work, maybe host it somewhere once its done. Willing to do something, instead of simply telling people to do something is actually better than brainstorm. Its called one step ahead Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.
Robert Smits wrote: On Thursday 12 April 2007 07:04, Clayton wrote: This popped up on the opensuse.us forum on Monday. A good read, and looks to be nicely compatible with Linux. http://lunapark6.com/usb-hdtv-tuner-stick-for-windows-linux-hauppauge-wintv -hvr-950.html Maybe at least somewhat useful... of only as a reference. C. Nobody I know receives HDTV over the air. It's on the cable system. THAT is what we need to be able to tune, not over the air broadcasts. What we need is a plug in tuner that can deal with digital HDTV on Cable. (At least in Western Canada). Here in Oklahoma City all the locals, well at least the major ones, are broadcasting in digital/HD. One station has five sub-channels active. Most just have two or three. Two if they are just doing digital and HD of their normal programming and three, or more, if they are doing some alternative programming [ channel five does their weather radar live 24/7 on one - it's funny when their Windows machine crashes on live TV and they have to reboot.]. Digital/HD is here and in the USofA it will become the standard in the next two or three years. Better start preparing for the switch over. - - (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US - Why ask?
ken wrote: Major US broadband providers (BBPs) are claiming that they need more flexible pricing policies most active french ISP (www.free.fr) was the first here to give adsl2+ 24Mb down / 1 Mb up unlimited with free VOIP/phone and TV free modem. The same give still as many 10Gb web space as one wants for free as well as mail accounts the same will propose very soon direct fiber to home probably for the same price, may be for 40 euros at max with 100 Mbits bidirectional bandwith. And this one makes money... so money is not a real problem the main reason is certainly than most users don't use even a small amount of the bandwith available on average. even we, here, most of us, have use of high bandwith only once in a while, for dvd dl the same company (in fact a sub-company of it) proposes homing computers for 30 euros/month (VAT excluded) http://www.dedibox.fr/ and this can be with opensuse in the box :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Lucien Dodin, inventeur http://lucien.dodin.net/index.shtml -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slashdot helps to clear up ClearType Hype
On Apr 12, 07 16:43:21 -0500, M Harris wrote: On Thursday 12 April 2007 17:14, Dylan wrote: But the question needs to be asked: can this guy post a civil message? Mike. Not if his posts earlier today are anything to go by. WANTED IN ALL 50 CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES FOR UNCIVIL MESSAGE POSTING I am unsure if all these personal attacks are just for fun or not. It does not really matter, anyway. Effectivly they degrade the readability of our mailing list. It was supposed to be about opensuse, wasnt it? Seriously: Can we please move all these specialized non-opensuse contributions to a specialized list? Thank you. Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _===.===_ V | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wide open suse_/_---|\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (//\ (/) | __/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Druid wrote: Oh please. Enough already with the lame excuses... there is nothing wrong with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming and its Just because you need it doesnt mean everybody need it. If Opensuse was about to solve all use cases, we would end up with a 8 DVD set, with debug information, source, pictures of all developers, small demo videos. Then we would have a 4 DVD set with only the full tree and source. Another 2 DVD set for those wanting only full tree. Then all those dvds with and without non-oss applications. Then we would need all that in CDs, because not everybody have DVDsm lets think of everyone. So we would like a 24 CD set with everything on it (debian, anyone?). Then another set of 5 CDs, for those who like old system. Then a more compact set of 3 CDs, like it is now (but we can say its just the 3 first discs of the 5 set). But then we need a one cd, because everybody say we need it, to look like ubuntu, with one cd and crappy software selection. But then we need one CD with kde and another one with GNOME, as we want everybody happy, dont we? As we are dealing with every case, we want one with xfce and openbox too (could be the same). People also complain there should be a livecd, but siome people dont like it. Add few more cds and dvds for that too. And then lets multiply by 3 all those sets, cause we need for x86, x86-64 and ppc. I myself having used sparc boxes for some time, I kinda have feelings for them, and since we are on the demands race, I for one would like a port of all that to sparc arch. Now do you know what that mean? That we NEED lame escuses, it seems, to keep the sanity of the release. So again, if you really need, make one dvd. Teere are lots of ways f doing it, I believe people in this thread are not that dumb, google will show that. All you need to do is having to do some work, maybe host it somewhere once its done. Willing to do something, instead of simply telling people to do something is actually better than brainstorm. Its called one step ahead Marcio --- druid I would support Marcios position on this It is useful to have a base configuration on media but the addons and more specialist bits one should be able to retrieve on an as needed basis. Besides many of the non-base applications are in a continual state of development and personal I would prefer to get the latest copy as a single download to installimg from media and then upgrading. Personally I think the simpler things are kept the better, complexity leads to obscurity, unreliability, and a lot of work those who have to pull all the bits an pieces together. begin:vcard fn:Graham T. Smith n:Smith;Graham T. adr:Barton upon Humber;;90 Bowmandale;;North Lincs.;DN18 5EA;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:07876793607 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
M Harris wrote: On Friday 13 April 2007 01:08, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote: The proponents of this idea clearly dont have a clue what having yet another DVD in the official media means. this is not your home network, it is the second most popular linux distro out there, is not that easy to scale at this proportions. please use your brain before proposing such ideas. Oh please. Enough already with the lame excuses... there is nothing wrong with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming and its helped us come up with some pretty snazzy Yankee know-how... you know... it can't be done kind of stuff... don't ever tell me that your scaling problems are my end-all... what a sting of Bologna... scale your mirrors and upgrade your delivery system... you must know that eventually it will be *necessary* anyway... just bite the bullet and make it happen... and stop whining about it... I think Alexey has got a great idea... and except for choosing to live in one of the most volatile locations on earth, he seems a pretty smart fellow... :) In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading. One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can through away their 286's. And then buy a better internet connection. I'm not rich by any means but I could chip in some. IF there were two DVD's, and actually I do like the idea of having two DVD's, I'm not so sure I would want to dedicate two or three days to downloading them. It's bad enough having to pray that nothing goes wrong for the twenty-some hours it takes to download one. BEFORE you start griping that my connection is slow. It IS NOT slow. On some severs I can get a 96/100kbs download speed connection. On one I actually had almost 130kbs download speed. On openSuSE I usually get about dial up speed downloads. If the problem is not on my end it must be on the other. I understand about connection loads but still . dial-up speeds come on! They need to upgrade before they even consider doing anything about two DVD's. - - (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Caching updates locally/Local update server
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 15:07 +0545, Prajjwal Devkota wrote: Can anyone help me out with this? I have seen them in /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt But, you must be sure that you have not checked the button in YAST that causes them to be deleted after they are installed. I have a script that makes a CD of this directory. Then I can use that CD to do the update in systems not on the 'net. The only downside is that when an update is updated, both updates will be here. Yast will still do the right thing, but the amount of data can get big. I never found a way to weed out updates in this directory that are no longer needed. I think you can also export this directory locally and add it as a source on other systems. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suddenly slow
Carl wrote: whats up this list seems to have dropped to zero I know it was not myrealbox because until yesterdays changeover to Messaging Archeticts it was working fine. CWSIV I've been getting lots from this list. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.
On Thursday 12 April 2007 18:18:10 Sunny wrote: On 4/12/07, michael norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I;m in UK and one of the links points to Amazon UK who can supply the device, and later on in the article it says it works with Mythtv. So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do I get it from and how do I set it up ? Mike Add packman's repository, there is MythTV. You need mysql running as well in order to run the backend.. -- Thanks. I have ordered the Hauppauge WIN-TV HVR-900TV USB 2.0 Analogue Digital TV Tuner from Amazon. It should arrive tomorrow. I assume I can just configure it using Yast. Has anybody used this particular device already with 10.2 ? Any problems I might encounter ? Before I try Mythtv is there a KDE programme I need to install ? Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
and again: If we make the 2 DVDs modular the current user's needs will still be addressed, plus adding needs of many new users around. That is, the first DVD will contain all the needed things to get you up running. speaking of penalties: The mirrors live up with Debian with their 240+ CDs, so if we add an extra DVD, but remove the 6 CDs for x86-64 we won't lose mirrors. Again, all 64-bit systems are equipped with DVD. Some ppl tell me there would be a lot of penalties, so I ask what could be the penalties? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
OK, people I understood your points. 1. Some seems to have preference for mailing-lists, some others (including me) have preference for PHPbb Forums. 2. I really liked the idea that we already have a webForum representation of mailing-lists, but the current Forum is really noobish and non-intuitive, which pushes me to the next idea: 3. Is it possible to build it the other way around, with PHPbb forum being the primary interface with mailing-list representation as secondary interface ? In particular: 3. a. does current version of PHPbb supports mailing-lists ? or 3.b. Will it be difficult to add mailing-list support to PHPbb Forum ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
Alexey Eremenko wrote: and again: If we make the 2 DVDs modular the current user's needs will still be addressed, plus adding needs of many new users around. That is, the first DVD will contain all the needed things to get you up running. speaking of penalties: The mirrors live up with Debian with their 240+ CDs, so if we add an extra DVD, but remove the 6 CDs for x86-64 we won't lose mirrors. Again, all 64-bit systems are equipped with DVD. Some ppl tell me there would be a lot of penalties, so I ask what could be the penalties? This beginning to get a bit silly, I am getting the impression the record has got stuck on the crack!... I do not see the distinction between 2 DVDs and a base install DVD plus on-line archive for online distribution. In fact in terms of bandwidth usage the latter is probably a lot more sensible, there are a lot things I do not want to use which are available, and I am not very impressed with the implicit suggestion that I should download a whole load of stuff do not want to get the stuff I need. Published CDs are a different issue (and I believe these include more anyway). begin:vcard fn:Graham T. Smith n:Smith;Graham T. adr:Barton upon Humber;;90 Bowmandale;;North Lincs.;DN18 5EA;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:07876793607 version:2.1 end:vcard
[opensuse] KExec and how to work with it ?
hi all ! I have heard that the Linux kernel supports KExec - an ability to boot directly into GRUB, without full restart ! How do I activate it ? Or is there some documentation of it? Which versions of SUSE support it? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS This feature is really important for the Virtualization software around ! (and therefore for me) Why did it get removed from 10.2 ? I have heard of security reasons, now I don't believe this, since if it were security, it would not be re-introduced into 10.3, so more specifically - why it was removed ? Read bugzilla. It was indeed removed for security reasons and also because an alternative interface is available that has no security problems - but since it's not mounted by default, the admin can decide on his/her own whether this is a security concern or whether s/he needs it for VMware, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjj73ePcx84.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 19:00 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote: Thunderbird 2.0, beta. AFAIK, you need suse patched version, or patch it yourself (meaning recompile). Finally got it working, and it works like a charm so far. THanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
John Andersen wrote: O I on the other hand loath them. Why would I want to wait for response time each time I click on a post. My email is here waiting for me when I get to the computer. Why should I wait for the computer to suck down several thousand bytes just to find out that it was a me too post. Forums are for children. Why? Just because you have to wait a little bit. Isn't it more childish to demand an answer right then and there on your terms rather than wait patiently? I use both, and I think that if we all went to one forum or one mailing list, it would get rather crowded rather quickly, not to mention a very dull world indeed. Could we spare the insults and just use what works? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:39:49PM +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote: CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS This feature is really important for the Virtualization software around ! (and therefore for me) Why did it get removed from 10.2 ? I have heard of security reasons, now I don't believe this, since if it were security, it would not be re-introduced into 10.3, so more specifically - why it was removed ? Because it is obsolete and deprecated and we thought all users were fixed already. It has now been readded for 10.2 with the above kernel update. For 10.3 we will again try to remove it. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
On 04/13/2007 02:37 AM somebody named Hans van der Merwe wrote: Im trying to install FFX 2.0.0.3 with smart - from repo http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2 I Trying to install the src package on 9.3, I got this error: # rpmbuild --rebuild MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm Installing MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm error: parse error in expression error: /usr/src/packages/SPECS/MozillaFirefox.spec:115: parseExpressionBoolean returns -1 error: Package has no %description: MozillaFirefox And I got the same or similar error before (and reported it here). No joy. Any reason why the latest thunderbird (2.0.0.x) isn't available from Suse? -- Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors into trouble of all kinds. -- Samuel Butler -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slashdot helps to clear up ClearType Hype
Druid wrote: As we knew, for days: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-04/msg01040.html But don't let the facts get in the way of a good Novell bashing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
ken wrote: On 04/13/2007 02:37 AM somebody named Hans van der Merwe wrote: Im trying to install FFX 2.0.0.3 with smart - from repo http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2 I Trying to install the src package on 9.3, I got this error: # rpmbuild --rebuild MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm Installing MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm error: parse error in expression error: /usr/src/packages/SPECS/MozillaFirefox.spec:115: parseExpressionBoolean returns -1 error: Package has no %description: MozillaFirefox And I got the same or similar error before (and reported it here). No joy. Any reason why the latest thunderbird (2.0.0.x) isn't available from Suse? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070320 SUSE/2.0.0.3-3.2 Firefox/2.0.0.3 I got that from SuSE, are you saying that somehow I'm behind? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Problem installing openSuSE10.2 on old HP
Alexey Eremenko schrieb: The installation worked using a DVD, but when I tried to configure the graphic card, the system stops working. Does it stops working completely or only GUI? That is: I think you should try to run your Linux in text-mode to fix the issue. When you see your Linux goes black-screen, type: ctrl+alt+F1 to go text-mode. Then run your sax2 and setup your video card. Hi, no it stops completely ! (no ping, nothing) I used knoppix to test a few things. The gui of knoppix is comming up and you can work. But if you are moving the mouse often over the taskbar it's freezing again. It looks like an hardware error, but I know that a former colleague has had the same problems with SuSE 7.x . But he is no longer working here and might also not rember, what he has done to solve this puzzle. Currently is crashing when the kernel is loaded (no log on the screen). But I CAN boot the rescue system. I can also use the installation DVD and the gui ... -- Bye, Peer _ Max-Planck-Institut fuer Biogeochemie Dr. Peer-Joachim Koch Hans-Knöll Str.10Telefon: ++49 3641 57-6705 D-07745 Jena Telefax: ++49 3641 57-7705 begin:vcard fn:Peer-Joachim Koch n:Koch;Peer-Joachim org;quoted-printable:MPI f=C3=BCr Biogeochemie;DVA adr:;;Hans-Knoell-Str. 10;Jena;;07745;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Dr. tel;work:+49 3641 576705 tel;fax:+49 3641 577705 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Installing Firefox 2.0.0.3
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 06:44:50AM -0600, Pueblo Native wrote: ken wrote: On 04/13/2007 02:37 AM somebody named Hans van der Merwe wrote: Im trying to install FFX 2.0.0.3 with smart - from repo http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2 I Trying to install the src package on 9.3, I got this error: # rpmbuild --rebuild MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm Installing MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-3.2.src.rpm error: parse error in expression error: /usr/src/packages/SPECS/MozillaFirefox.spec:115: parseExpressionBoolean returns -1 error: Package has no %description: MozillaFirefox And I got the same or similar error before (and reported it here). No joy. Any reason why the latest thunderbird (2.0.0.x) isn't available from Suse? There just is no 2.0 Thunderbird at this time from Mozilla.ORG. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate
Hello List, Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? What mobo and what processor exactly? Have you checked if the mobo supports the cpu? (vendor website) No beeps? Kind regards Per Qvindesland -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- L. de Braal BraHa Systems NL - Terneuzen T +31 115 649333 F +31 115 649444 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate
Per Qvindesland wrote: with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? The first thing that comes to my mind is the power supply. Perhaps the power supply is not adequate for the system so it comes on but gets overloaded and shuts off and starts over again. Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate
CPU fan should go on only when needed (or when CPU is overheated). Indeed it is normal that CPU fan starts on start, then it should go of and then on when temperature rises. But it is not normal that it goes on and of in intervals. Advise: Check CPU past and cooler in CPU is that good assembled, keep in mined that too much CPU pasta is also bad for system it can make shortcut on MB when gets warm( can leak) Regards, Zoran On Friday 13 April 2007 15:34, Leen de Braal Schreef: Hello List, Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? What mobo and what processor exactly? Have you checked if the mobo supports the cpu? (vendor website) No beeps? Kind regards Per Qvindesland -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- L. de Braal BraHa Systems NL - Terneuzen T +31 115 649333 F +31 115 649444 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On Friday 13 April 2007 04:33:04 am Alexey Eremenko wrote: OK, people I understood your points. 1. Some seems to have preference for mailing-lists, some others (including me) have preference for PHPbb Forums. 2. I really liked the idea that we already have a webForum representation of mailing-lists, but the current Forum is really noobish and non-intuitive, which pushes me to the next idea: 3. Is it possible to build it the other way around, with PHPbb forum being the primary interface with mailing-list representation as secondary interface ? In particular: 3. a. does current version of PHPbb supports mailing-lists ? or No. 3.b. Will it be difficult to add mailing-list support to PHPbb Forum ? No. http://www.filesite.org/viewforum.php?f=21 That is the forum end of a mailing list. So much easier to read, IMO. In any case, the software I use is M2F: http://www.mail2forum.com/forums/index.php I pretty much set it and forget it. I could also post to the mailing list from the forum, but I choose not to for this case, because the mailing list is restricted. -- k -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
* Benji Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-13-07 04:45]: [...] As I said, every mail client I use (4) will reply to the sender, because the list sets the reply-to to the sender. Using alternative clients is not an option, and if people really don't like replies in this way I'll have to stop helping people on the list until the reply-to is changed back to the list. Hu. Admitting the inability to properly address your posts. Tsk! I'm not ever going down that road again because I don't think that stop sign should be there even thou the alternate route is a half mile farther! and *many* other *absurd* examples. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mplayer
On Friday 13 April 2007 01:26, chikaTambun wrote: William Biggs wrote: I looking for Mplayer every one I have try is looking for dep. I can not get them to work add this url to an http installation souce in yast ftp://packman.links2linux.de/pub/packman/MIRRORS then open software in yast, search for mplayer. this will install everything you need to play probably most video and all dependencies. OR, my choice on new installs has always been to download smart from pascals guru site, http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ and that will automatically add all installation sources you could possibly need for a complete box. either way. He provides a great service for the community, thanks. -- powered by OPENSuSE 10.2 athlon i386 GNU/Linux http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com 9:47am up 12:53, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.03, 0.05 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2007-04-12 12:12, Peter Bradley wrote: Ysgrifennodd Carlos E. R.: snip / SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify reply all behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I activated it, though. Any clues at all? I'd like to try that. Try adding user_pref(mailnews.clobber_list_reply, true); to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary. I just tried it with Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to work. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] zmd/update problems.
I'm having problems with zmd hanging on three different SuSE 10.2 boxes. All the boxes use the same mirrors for their source, and all were upgrades from 10.1, if that matters. I notice that I'm not being notified of new updates in gnome, and 'rczmd stop' fails. A regular 'kill' on zmd doesn't work, and I have to 'kill -9' or reboot to stop zmd. When I start zmd again, it just hangs and cannot be stopped without another 'kill -9'. I found that a rm -fr /var/lib/zmd /var/lib/zypp will allow zmd to start and run again ... for awhile. I re-add my sources and update, but usually the problem reoccurs again in a few hours or days. Are there other files I can remove, or a better way to clean up zmd to fix this problem permanently? Thanks! - BS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.
michael norman wrote: On Thursday 12 April 2007 18:18:10 Sunny wrote: On 4/12/07, michael norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I;m in UK and one of the links points to Amazon UK who can supply the device, and later on in the article it says it works with Mythtv. So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do I get it from and how do I set it up ? Mike Add packman's repository, there is MythTV. You need mysql running as well in order to run the backend.. -- Thanks. I have ordered the Hauppauge WIN-TV HVR-900TV USB 2.0 Analogue Digital TV Tuner from Amazon. It should arrive tomorrow. I assume I can just configure it using Yast. Has anybody used this particular device already with 10.2 ? Any problems I might encounter ? Before I try Mythtv is there a KDE programme I need to install ? You might want to have a look at: http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2/pvrusb2.html I'm not sure if this is the same model that you have ordered. I've got one of these - it's listed as WinTV PVR USB2, so I'm not 100% it's the sam emodel you've ordered. Currently the pvrusb2 driver only seems to pick up analogue broadcasts via the aerial in socket. (I've not got Windows to test if it picks up digital and analogue via this input). Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.Only I can blame opensuse for failurel to communicate this fact in the release notes . So, many user like me spend a lot of time trying to figure out why they could not sync any more under VMware. It only affected very few usb devices. Most of them worked OK. I believe the pressure to make changes should go to VMware (IMHO) -terry- -Original Message- From: Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test Date: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:43 am Size: 489 bytes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS This feature is really important for the Virtualization software around ! (and therefore for me) Why did it get removed from 10.2 ? I have heard of security reasons, now I don't believe this, since if it were security, it would not be re-introduced into 10.3, so more specifically - why it was removed ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
James Knott wrote: Try adding user_pref(mailnews.clobber_list_reply, true); to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary. I just tried it with Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to work. Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
Sorry to ask this again, but can't seem to find a straight answer in the archives for this related thread. Is the stable 2.6.20.6 kernel available for 10.2 as an RPM? The current factory build on software.opensuse.org is the latest cutting edge 2.6.21 - is this usable? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate]
Thanks everybody for responding, the motherboard if a Gigabyte 965P-DS3 with a Intel Core 2 E6400 processor, the motherboard and the cpu is a good match, there is no beeps or indications when it starts up, but perhaps that is a good enough indication for someone that really knows this stuff, I am a server engineer, I.E i walk around and configure servers everyday, not build machines :) Again thanks everyone for responding. Kind regards Per Qvindesland On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 15:54 +0200, zoran wrote: CPU fan should go on only when needed (or when CPU is overheated). Indeed it is normal that CPU fan starts on start, then it should go of and then on when temperature rises. But it is not normal that it goes on and of in intervals. Advise: Check CPU past and cooler in CPU is that good assembled, keep in mined that too much CPU pasta is also bad for system it can make shortcut on MB when gets warm( can leak) Regards, Zoran On Friday 13 April 2007 15:34, Leen de Braal Schreef: Hello List, Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? What mobo and what processor exactly? Have you checked if the mobo supports the cpu? (vendor website) No beeps? Kind regards Per Qvindesland -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- L. de Braal BraHa Systems NL - Terneuzen T +31 115 649333 F +31 115 649444 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate
On Friday 13 April 2007 05:31, Per Qvindesland wrote: Hello List, Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? Do I understand you to be saying that just the fan cycles on and off, or is it the whole system? On one system I'm familiar with, a similar symptom (except that it doesn't go on forever) occurs when one configures overclocking parameters (CPU or RAM timings, multipliers or clock speeds) that don't permit even a some system operation. When such a circumstance is detected, the BIOS performs a momentary power-down and then restarts with default speed and timing parameters so you can go in an change your too-aggressive chipping. Could this be related to what you're seeing? By the way, you say there's no error beeps. Perhaps this board has a numeric on-board error condition indicator (typically a two-digit, seven-segment LED display)? If so, did you check the code it shows? Kind regards Per Qvindesland Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] zmd/update problems.
Bruce Smith wrote: I'm having problems with zmd hanging on three different SuSE 10.2 boxes. All the boxes use the same mirrors for their source, and all were upgrades from 10.1, if that matters. I notice that I'm not being notified of new updates in gnome, and 'rczmd stop' fails. A regular 'kill' on zmd doesn't work, and I have to 'kill -9' or reboot to stop zmd. When I start zmd again, it just hangs and cannot be stopped without another 'kill -9'. I found that a rm -fr /var/lib/zmd /var/lib/zypp will allow zmd to start and run again ... for awhile. I re-add my sources and update, but usually the problem reoccurs again in a few hours or days. Are there other files I can remove, or a better way to clean up zmd to fix this problem permanently? Thanks! - BS My server has this problem for the last two weeks and I have not been able to figure out how to get it running again. My laptop and other machines are still working fine with getting updates via the ORB turning orange. I want to see this mechanism working well and believe that 10.3 we will see big differences in the stability and speed of the updater. For now, what would be nice is some kind of cook book that explains what to look for when it isn't working (flow chart) so that updates are possible again. I may try to get mine working again today if time permits. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
On 4/13/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 April 2007, Dave Crouse wrote: So, My how-to's on installing suse ftp ver9.1 that has 95,000+ page views are just irrelevant dribble and we should just close down all the forums because a few of you don't see any virtue in them ? Dave: We have a wiki and archives. Those 95000 people found your page with google. They could just as well find the wiki or the archives The fact that the a hammer is the only tool you know tends to cause you to look at every problem as if it were a nail. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How very strange. lol. Seems I AM the one using more than one medium of communication and yet you accuse ME of only using a hammer roflmao. Seems to me your the one that is small minded making insults at me. Your the one that only views things in black and white, and assumes the mailing list is the only form of communication worthwhile. I never said mailing lists weren't worthwhile, I think all forms are good. However we can get and help new users is a good thing. You are obviously very narrow minded and have forgotten that the last 10 years has actually made the internet more than just text based email and usenet. I suppose I could re-direct www.opensuse.us to a debian site would that make you happier ? If I have served no purpose, then it wouldn't matter to you right ? :P I mean, I did register the domain for the next 10 years, and have made it a point to get google to rank it as high as possible. Perhaps Debian could use the boost in traffic :P Those 95000 people found your page with google. They could just as well find the wiki or the archives But obviously they didn't did they ? I would say forums are much more search engine friendly than a wiki or any email archives. Do a few searches, which comes up more .. archived email lists and wiki's or forums ? (Don't bother responding, I ALREADY know the answer). Contrary to what you think, forums aren't made up of idiots and people that don't know how to run a mail reader. I would venture to say your not on any forums because we would have banned an obnoxious prude like yourself. Crouse Site Admin OpenSuse.us -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 06:14 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: M Harris wrote: In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading. One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can through away their 286's. And then buy a better internet connection. I'm not rich by any means but I could chip in some. IF there were two DVD's, and actually I do like the idea of having two DVD's, I'm not so sure I would want to dedicate two or three days to downloading them. It's bad enough having to pray that nothing goes wrong for the twenty-some hours it takes to download one. Then why not download the delta iso's instead and save yourself a lot of time. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
On Thursday 12 April 2007 07:42:41 pm Druid wrote: you aer again trolling and acting like people's boss telling them to do things for you, instead of at least trying to get knowledge about the current situation, about the structure, about the working that has been done. Instead you want other people to do the work for you. You are really an idiot for doing that repeatedly... Marcio --- druid I missed the openSUSE mailing list election for Police Chief of the List. When was it and can I still get my vote in? Henne must be on the openSUSE Security Team that is on vacation until August... Chris, I still miss your presence on the list! Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate
Per Qvindesland wrote: fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again could be a switch button oddly wired. If you plug the two connectors pin on the wrong place, it starts then stops... read carefully the mobo manual and check it all. then if no better, search for help locally, the risk is to destroy the system if you don't know how to do. as a general notice: don't try to build a computer if you don't know nothing about this. Try first on a used one, I build new computer from trashed ones very often, it's a very good school and if I fail, back to trash :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Lucien Dodin, inventeur http://lucien.dodin.net/index.shtml -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: James Knott wrote: Try adding user_pref(mailnews.clobber_list_reply, true); to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary. I just tried it with Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to work. Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird:1.5.10 Enigmail: 0.94.3 reply to list: 0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Sandy Drobic wrote: James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird:1.5.10 Enigmail: 0.94.3 reply to list: 0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Jan Karjalainen wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird: 1.5.10 Enigmail:0.94.3 reply to list:0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension Actually I found one version that doesn' t need a patched Thunderbird: http://cweiske.de/misc_extensions.htm -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Problem installing openSuSE10.2 on old HP
On Friday 13 April 2007 08:02:32 am Dr.Peer-Joachim Koch wrote: Alexey Eremenko schrieb: The installation worked using a DVD, but when I tried to configure the graphic card, the system stops working. Does it stops working completely or only GUI? That is: I think you should try to run your Linux in text-mode to fix the issue. When you see your Linux goes black-screen, type: ctrl+alt+F1 to go text-mode. Then run your sax2 and setup your video card. Hi, no it stops completely ! (no ping, nothing) I used knoppix to test a few things. The gui of knoppix is comming up and you can work. But if you are moving the mouse often over the taskbar it's freezing again. It looks like an hardware error, but I know that a former colleague has had the same problems with SuSE 7.x . But he is no longer working here and might also not rember, what he has done to solve this puzzle. Currently is crashing when the kernel is loaded (no log on the screen). But I CAN boot the rescue system. I can also use the installation DVD and the gui ... Try booting 'safemode'. If that is reliable then you have a list of kernel boot parameters that you can re-enable one at a time to see what works or doesn't work. My money is on acpi as the culprit. The GUI lockups are symptoms of the real problem. It could be the video driver but usually *ubuntus won't fall over if that is the issue with SUSE. Are these systems up-to-date on their BIOS and firmwares? Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT sorry but I am desperate]
Per Qvindesland wrote: Thanks everybody for responding, the motherboard if a Gigabyte 965P-DS3 with a Intel Core 2 E6400 processor, the motherboard and the cpu is a good match, there is no beeps or indications when it starts up, but perhaps that is a good enough indication for someone that really knows this stuff, I am a server engineer, I.E i walk around and configure servers everyday, not build machines :) Not enough information for a good guess. Try to follow the usual trouble-shooting guide: - describe exactly to which point the machine is starting. does the bios announce itself or does it break down without any messages visible on the monitor? - reduce the machine to the bare minimum first: - power supply - mainboard - cpu - cpu heat sink - ram modules (one if possible) - graphic card (if no onboard vga is available) no hdd or anything else, then carefully check again, that the cpu is and ram and graphic card are inserted correctly. If you can now access the mainboard bios, you are a big step ahead. If not, you are in deep trouble, because you probably have broken hardware. In that case you might try to exchange the above mentioned parts one at a time. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
Alexey Eremenko wrote: OK, people I understood your points. 1. Some seems to have preference for mailing-lists, some others (including me) have preference for PHPbb Forums. 2. I really liked the idea that we already have a webForum representation of mailing-lists, but the current Forum is really noobish and non-intuitive, which pushes me to the next idea: 3. Is it possible to build it the other way around, with PHPbb forum being the primary interface with mailing-list representation as secondary interface ? In particular: 3. a. does current version of PHPbb supports mailing-lists ? or 3.b. Will it be difficult to add mailing-list support to PHPbb Forum ? The first question you might want to anwswer is: - what additional value do I get for using a forum compared to the mailing list? Currently I don't see any reason to use it in my situation: - I get several hundred emails from mailinglists each day, it only takes a very small time for me to parse them to read the interesting ones. No waiting for a busy server. - Answering emails is also very comfortable for me with the mailclient of my choice. - I have set up my own server including a cyrus imap server, that is (fulltext) indexing the entire mail archive on my server, so any search is blinding fast. Logging in from work on my servers at home is no problem, so I can access my mails from everywhere. So, what would I gain from using a forum? I don't think I would gain anything. What might offer an additional value is an archive of tested solutions to problems, something like a how-to-solve-problems-wiki. That could be refered to on the mailing list to answer problems quickly and decisively. Though it still wouldn't be a forum. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
Sandy Drobic wrote: What might offer an additional value is an archive of tested solutions to problems, something like a how-to-solve-problems-wiki. That could be refered to on the mailing list to answer problems quickly and decisively. Though it still wouldn't be a forum. Useful point, I seem to remember both MajorDomo and (I think it was called) Mailman listservers had parallel admin accounts so one could subscribe, unsubscribe, ask for the List FAQ, get a list description etc etc. by sending a mail with the relevant request. I personally have mixed views about forums (annoying things like preparing a response, finding you have been logged out, and having to redo response; and brain dead search options oh of course [EMAIL PROTECTED] advertising) However, good moderators can keep a close control on duplicate threads, rambling threads, and bad behaviour, so the information to noise ratio can be better than a mailing lists begin:vcard fn:Graham T. Smith n:Smith;Graham T. adr:Barton upon Humber;;90 Bowmandale;;North Lincs.;DN18 5EA;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:07876793607 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Jan Karjalainen wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: James Knott wrote: Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird. Wolfgang I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now. I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^) Thunderbird: 1.5.10 Enigmail:0.94.3 reply to list:0.1 Don't know anymore, where I got it from... Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension Apparently, that's not quite ready. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
I missed the openSUSE mailing list election for Police Chief of the List. When was it and can I still get my vote in? Henne must be on the openSUSE Security Team that is on vacation until August... Chris, I still miss your presence on the list! If you dont have anything useful to post, dont post. cheers Marcio --- druid PS: respect my authorita -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Samba for 9.0?
Does anyone have a new (3.0+) Samba build for SuSE 9.0? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Samba for 9.0?
maybe http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/suse90-i386/ mourik jan Anders Norrbring wrote: Does anyone have a new (3.0+) Samba build for SuSE 9.0? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] beryl installation problem
Well i am trying to install Beryl. i am usind kde desktop and nvidia 6600 card i have followed all instruction on the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl but when i type the last command i get the error as oswin-suse:~ # su oswin-suse:~ # gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl Warning! MD5DIR is not set: you probably called this script outside SuSEconfig...! Using MD5DIR=/var/adm/SuSEconfig/md5... No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config oswin-suse:~ # the command beryl-manager works and the red diamond does come in sys. tray please help _ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-in-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Samba for 9.0?
mourik jan skrev: maybe http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/suse90-i386/ mourik jan Anders Norrbring wrote: Does anyone have a new (3.0+) Samba build for SuSE 9.0? Beautiful! Thank you.. ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
On Fri 13 April 07 12:11, Druid wrote: I missed the openSUSE mailing list election for Police Chief of the List. When was it and can I still get my vote in? Henne must be on the openSUSE Security Team that is on vacation until August... Chris, I still miss your presence on the list! If you dont have anything useful to post, dont post. cheers Marcio You've been off your meds now for more than a week. Maybe you should let your shrink know about all the rage you're exhibiting so he can get you back on them. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not. Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
jdd wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: So, what would I gain from using a forum? I don't think I would gain anything. the problem have been very often quoted: people asks for something. This don't hurt and uses very little work: do it! the real question is: do we need an _official_ openSUSE forum. Time ago most sems to say yes, but nothing was done. What were the reasons that people wanted a forum? What demand would such a forum serve? I am quite interested in the answer. It might not apply to me personally, but I really would like to know. One possible reason just came to mind: The graphical Interface with lots of buttons could offer some hints for the casual reader of the mailinglist, something like: - how do I effectively ask for help, what should I describe etc. - forum/mailinglist etiquette - FAQ button: what/what not to post, search archive first for problem with link to search archive directly at you finger tips. This would all apply to the casual reader of the list or someone not interested in long-term participation. I would definitely want a button called UNSUBSCRIBE-HOW_TO prominently displayed there. (^-^) So, the answer is probably the possibility of better guidance for casual readers of the list. This assumes, of course, that these possibilities are indeed made available. I absolutely despise the uninspired uniform look of most of the phpbb sites. Again, this might not apply to me personally, but I imagine that it will more appealing to people that do not have the yearlong experience with mailinglists. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 17:13 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote: What do you think about building a new one or declaring some currently existing one as the official? Official? Why do we need that? Look, there's OpenSuse.us, which I use and like a lot, there's LinuxQuestions.org, there are tons of forms out there. Pick from them, search from them all, but why do we need to declare one official? That's part of what makes Linux grand in the first place. Agreed. :-) I prefer a mail list, others prefer a forum. No problem, each person can use what they prefer. One snag with forums is that you have to be online, so it is more expensive for those people with limited or metered internet access. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGH8WJtTMYHG2NR9URAm+lAJwOjOyTLhftxMdQdOU5pflqDAJ8CACePkLT qS6P/79GY6cCDV0ylmNVSf8= =/0s2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 06:03 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote: During the closing process, it informs us that it's updating our system, but I feel no need for Yast to update my system as the rpm packages did this already, via their built-in scripts. Not true. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGH8aGtTMYHG2NR9URAkkcAKCVZZhz1BaJfDFgNqho2z0UXqrVUQCgloHk ke93NS3KMNSeKbu4QRWZK6s= =FzGa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
You've been off your meds now for more than a week. Maybe you should let your shrink know about all the rage you're exhibiting so he can get you back on them. Just dont post, kid Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Ysgrifennodd Jos van Kan: You should not *install* it in Firefox, but *save* it somewhere. (I have a directory downloads for this type of thing). Then in TB click ToolsExtensionsinstall. It opens up a file dialogbox where you can click on the file just saved. bingo, it installs *in TB* this time. Regards, Well, I managed to download mnenhy using Konq in the end. It then installed in TB just fine and the Reply to List button became active. But does it work? No. Clicking the button has no effect. Zilch. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Reply to List in case it was an order of installation thing. Still the same. And yes, I am using SuSE. Couldn't install enigmail as it apparently wants Thunderbird v2.0. So I'm giving up. Apologies to those who might get unintentional off-list replies from me. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.
Since we are talking about TV tuners, I always wanted to ask someone more experienced. I have a Crypto TV tuner (specifically a PC-Radio Crypto III tuner), which I do not know how to configure. It is not listed in the TV-cards' list (thorugh Yast's Hardware ---TV and Radio Card Setup) neither can Yast autodetect it. I understand it's not a common pci card (although it was a really good bargain), but i guess there is a way to enable and configure it. The company (http://www.crypto.gr ) only offers support and drivers for MS Windows and does not mention anything about *nix environment. I guess though it would be nice to have it working, since it is the biggest problem i have while migrating to OpenSuse. PS: Any help or piece of advice would be usefull (but please be specific since I am not familiar with any kernel compiling issues) -- Vagionas S.Christos :--: : Network Operation System : : Electrical and Computer Engineer : : Undergraduate Student: : Aristotle University : : Thessaloniki, GReece: : Tel. No: +30 2310209173 : : mobile : +30 6974046518 : :--: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] off-list replies
Peter Bradley wrote: Ysgrifennodd Jos van Kan: You should not *install* it in Firefox, but *save* it somewhere. (I have a directory downloads for this type of thing). Then in TB click ToolsExtensionsinstall. It opens up a file dialogbox where you can click on the file just saved. bingo, it installs *in TB* this time. Regards, Well, I managed to download mnenhy using Konq in the end. It then installed in TB just fine and the Reply to List button became active. But does it work? No. Clicking the button has no effect. Zilch. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Reply to List in case it was an order of installation thing. Still the same. And yes, I am using SuSE. Couldn't install enigmail as it apparently wants Thunderbird v2.0. So I'm giving up. Apologies to those who might get unintentional off-list replies from me. Peter Try this one (I modified it to work with TB 1.5): http://www.fmbv.nu/replyToList-0.1.xpi It doesn't need enigmail or any other extensions to work. -- I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay? - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster
On Fri 13 Apr 2007 15:22, S Glasoe wrote: Henne must be on the openSUSE Security Team that is on vacation until August. Christopher Mahmood was a light-handed, intellectual-heavyweight List-Manager . . . still remembered, with Gratitude :) friendly greetings -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] hosed my MBR
Hosed my MBR I tried to restore the MBR on my tower with a saved backup MBR with dd if=/dev/hda etc... which I created on my laptop. Dumb Dumb Dumb.I though that they were both win XP on the 1st drive, it should work. Was I stupid to try this. Now I'm in a fine mess. I had 11 partitions on my hda drive and hda6 - 11 were removed from /dev Now this is what I got running fdisk -l : Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: invalid flag 0x434b of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 11657133098217 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 18864 19457 4770360 12 Compaq diagnostics Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda33258611622959720c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda46116 18864 1023926405 Extended Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda5 ? 74338 184463 884580633 79 Unknown Partition table entries are not in disk order Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 980 7871818+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb2 9811937 7687102+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb31938972962589240f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb519382065 1028128+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hdb62066410516386268+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb74106601715358108+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb86018741311213338+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb974148203 6345643+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb10 82048792 473 83 Linux /dev/hdb11 87939729 7526421 83 Linux ++ The hda* drive shows some of the partitions from my laptop. My hdb* drive has all my backup linux so no loss. I could repartition the a drive but gparted doesn't see the whole a drive and neither does PartionMagic. I reinstalled grub in the MBR of hda and I cann boot all my linux on the hdb drive, SuSE 10.2 boots up on /dev/hdb11 shown above with fdisk -l I tried using a boot floppy from win 98SE using fdisk /MBR, that didn't work. 1. If I reinstall XP would that restore the MBR? 2. Would fixmbr work from the XP rescue disk? 3. If I interchanged the hda and hdb drives, would the new hda (hdb) have a good MBR? 4. Would the hdb (hda) partitions be visible? I really need some help on how to re-format the a drive. This problem slowed down my computer, What a mess jozien -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
