Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
ok stuju.. dgn pendapat Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan.. saya pun tgh dok kaji pasal OSS Selling nih.. nanti dh siap coretan tu sy pos k.. klu salah tulun beri jalan yg benar,, hehehe sy org baru dlm OSS maaf le klu xbrapa paham n ada gaya mcm Micro$oft.. 2011/4/28 Che Muhamad Hazrol Naim hotfloppy.6...@gmail.com aku rasa, FiMOS dijual supaya melayakkan penggunanya mendapatkan khidmat sokongan pelanggan, macam yang RHEL buat.. kalo free distro, satu2nya tempat utk bertanya adalah pada komuniti.. sory kalo tak betol.. aku pon org baru gak.. hehe.. :P 2011/4/27 Syahril Zulkefli syah...@gmail.com saya orang baru dlm OSS ni pun rasa terkejut kenapa FiMOS ini dijual, dengan harga yang mahal. sedangkan distro lain boleh bagi free ade, siap ada yg bagi DVD sticker lagi. apa kelebihannya berbanding distro lain hingga melayakkan ianya dijual? Best regards, Syahril Zulkefli Manager, Joomla! Trainer, Web Developer http://www.codethepixels.com 2011/4/27 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
aku rasa, FiMOS dijual supaya melayakkan penggunanya mendapatkan khidmat sokongan pelanggan, macam yang RHEL buat.. kalo free distro, satu2nya tempat utk bertanya adalah pada komuniti.. sory kalo tak betol.. aku pon org baru gak.. hehe.. :P 2011/4/27 Syahril Zulkefli syah...@gmail.com saya orang baru dlm OSS ni pun rasa terkejut kenapa FiMOS ini dijual, dengan harga yang mahal. sedangkan distro lain boleh bagi free ade, siap ada yg bagi DVD sticker lagi. apa kelebihannya berbanding distro lain hingga melayakkan ianya dijual? Best regards, Syahril Zulkefli Manager, Joomla! Trainer, Web Developer http://www.codethepixels.com 2011/4/27 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
orang marketing tak ada ka? patut kasi public beta supaya orang boleh komen secara lahiriah dan batiniah.. eh, macam pelik je bahasa yang aku gunakan ni :p On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: 111 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:48:29 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Barang x siap tapi mau uwang dulu? Macam stail Datuk Tony Fernandez je, time mula2 air asia nak naik. Diorang jual tiket murah dulu baru beli kapal lain. Tapi FIMOS harganya berapa ye? محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Sy masih menanti nya .. Mananya FiMOS .. Kecewa betul hati .. Mana ada dlm akad jual beli .. Barang x siap tapi uwang mahu dulu .. Ahakss .. Ini bukan beli rumah .. Kita bayar on progress via development of that house. Sekian komen yg membina dr saya yang masih baru lagi akan dunia OSS ni .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:26:15 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Tak salah untuk jual Linux. Yang dijual adalah support contract, bukan perisian tersebut. Dengan harga yang dibayar, customer ada tempat untuk mengadu masalah mereka. Mereka ada nombor telefon yang boleh didial, ada email yang boleh dihantar, dan ada alamat yang boleh dituju kalau perlu penyelesaian masalah. Red Hat, Suse, Oracle, Canonical juga menyediakan Linux yang berbayar untuk support. Takder salah disitu. 2011/4/27 Syahril Zulkefli syah...@gmail.com saya orang baru dlm OSS ni pun rasa terkejut kenapa FiMOS ini dijual, dengan harga yang mahal. sedangkan distro lain boleh bagi free ade, siap ada yg bagi DVD sticker lagi. apa kelebihannya berbanding distro lain hingga melayakkan ianya dijual? Best regards, Syahril Zulkefli Manager, Joomla! Trainer, Web Developer http://www.codethepixels.com 2011/4/27 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Ya betul. Masih ramai lagi orang yang tak faham mengenai foss/oss. Aku jual cd ori ubuntu rm2 sekeping masa pesta konvo. Orang beli sbb nak buat koleksi padahal kat internet boleh download percuma. Terang2 aku letak banner sekeping RM2 atau download FREE di www.ubuntu.com Jual boleh tapi software yg gpl kena ikut law gpl. Yang kena bagi source dan binary kenalah bagi orang download. Sent from my iPhone non-white On 27 Apr 2011, at 19:36, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Tak salah untuk jual Linux. Yang dijual adalah support contract, bukan perisian tersebut. Dengan harga yang dibayar, customer ada tempat untuk mengadu masalah mereka. Mereka ada nombor telefon yang boleh didial, ada email yang boleh dihantar, dan ada alamat yang boleh dituju kalau perlu penyelesaian masalah. Red Hat, Suse, Oracle, Canonical juga menyediakan Linux yang berbayar untuk support. Takder salah disitu. 2011/4/27 Syahril Zulkefli syah...@gmail.com saya orang baru dlm OSS ni pun rasa terkejut kenapa FiMOS ini dijual, dengan harga yang mahal. sedangkan distro lain boleh bagi free ade, siap ada yg bagi DVD sticker lagi. apa kelebihannya berbanding distro lain hingga melayakkan ianya dijual? Best regards, Syahril Zulkefli Manager, Joomla! Trainer, Web Developer http://www.codethepixels.com 2011/4/27 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Baru terbaca semalam. Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html 2011/4/27 bizkut...@gmail.com Ya betul. Masih ramai lagi orang yang tak faham mengenai foss/oss. Aku jual cd ori ubuntu rm2 sekeping masa pesta konvo. Orang beli sbb nak buat koleksi padahal kat internet boleh download percuma. Terang2 aku letak banner sekeping RM2 atau download FREE di www.ubuntu.com Jual boleh tapi software yg gpl kena ikut law gpl. Yang kena bagi source dan binary kenalah bagi orang download. Sent from my iPhone non-white On 27 Apr 2011, at 19:36, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Tak salah untuk jual Linux. Yang dijual adalah support contract, bukan perisian tersebut. Dengan harga yang dibayar, customer ada tempat untuk mengadu masalah mereka. Mereka ada nombor telefon yang boleh didial, ada email yang boleh dihantar, dan ada alamat yang boleh dituju kalau perlu penyelesaian masalah. Red Hat, Suse, Oracle, Canonical juga menyediakan Linux yang berbayar untuk support. Takder salah disitu. 2011/4/27 Syahril Zulkefli syah...@gmail.comsyah...@gmail.com saya orang baru dlm OSS ni pun rasa terkejut kenapa FiMOS ini dijual, dengan harga yang mahal. sedangkan distro lain boleh bagi free ade, siap ada yg bagi DVD sticker lagi. apa kelebihannya berbanding distro lain hingga melayakkan ianya dijual? Best regards, Syahril Zulkefli Manager, Joomla! Trainer, Web Developer http://www.codethepixels.comhttp://www.codethepixels.com 2011/4/27 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com sharuzza...@gmail.com Seperti yang telah saya nyatakan ketika meeting di pejabat FiMOS 1. Perlu wujudkan beta tester team - pilih dalam 10 orang user untuk jadi beta tester 2. Perlu adakan Community Manager - contact person ini penting untuk berinteraksi dengan pengguna/peminat/pengkritik/penyokong 3. Perlu wujudkan satu laman web untuk sokongan FiMOS - belajar dari Microsoft bagaimana mereka wujudkan Knowledge Base, yang sekarang ini dipanggil Microsoft Support. lihat: http://support.microsoft.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ 4. Lihat bagaimana distro lain menyokong pengguna mereka. Pardus Linux adalah contoh yang baik. Pardus berasal dari Gentoo, tetapi sekarang dah tak follow Gentoo, dan banyak modified untuk menghasilkan identiti mereka sendiri. Lihat http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ dan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_%28operating_system%29 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.comlinuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.comimtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/http://www.mosc.my/ -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
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Barang x siap tapi mau uwang dulu? Macam stail Datuk Tony Fernandez je, time mula2 air asia nak naik. Diorang jual tiket murah dulu baru beli kapal lain. Tapi FIMOS harganya berapa ye? محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Sy masih menanti nya .. Mananya FiMOS .. Kecewa betul hati .. Mana ada dlm akad jual beli .. Barang x siap tapi uwang mahu dulu .. Ahakss .. Ini bukan beli rumah .. Kita bayar on progress via development of that house. Sekian komen yg membina dr saya yang masih baru lagi akan dunia OSS ni .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:26:15 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
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111 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:48:29 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Barang x siap tapi mau uwang dulu? Macam stail Datuk Tony Fernandez je, time mula2 air asia nak naik. Diorang jual tiket murah dulu baru beli kapal lain. Tapi FIMOS harganya berapa ye? محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Sy masih menanti nya .. Mananya FiMOS .. Kecewa betul hati .. Mana ada dlm akad jual beli .. Barang x siap tapi uwang mahu dulu .. Ahakss .. Ini bukan beli rumah .. Kita bayar on progress via development of that house. Sekian komen yg membina dr saya yang masih baru lagi akan dunia OSS ni .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:26:15 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Team, Nak minta izin to compile all our comments as our feedback to FiMOS. Any other feedback please reply to this email. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
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@ApOgEE, I kinda agree with u... Anyway, this also reminds me of 1 of my friend who over extreme about Ubuntu. As you all know, usually when ppl buy shared hosting accounts, they will looks for cPanel at the 1st requirement. As a hosting provider, to install cPanel, I have to use CentOS (although it can also install in Fedora, RHEL or FreeBSD). As you all know, cPanel can't run in Debian/Ubuntu. Guess what, that friend of mine, thought that he is smarter than my 4 years of hosting experience and asked me to use Ubuntu for all my servers, and asked me to convert all my servers that is running other distro to Ubuntu!!?? When I told him that cPanel only runs on redhat family, and guess what he said? He said just give the customers ftp access and mysql account, if they refuse to accept it, ask them find other hosting provider... I wonder if he start a web hosting company, how long his hosting business can sustain... Anyway, it is ok to run Debian/Ubuntu if I am providing DirectAdmin accounts. In fact, I do sell DirectAdmin accounts which hosted on Debian servers. But hey, asking me to totally convert my whole infra to Ubuntu just bcoz he supports Ubuntu, that is too extreme and idiotic!! Anyway, I hope I did not offend any of the extreme Ubuntu supporters. I am just voicing out my opinion and my experience on people who are over extreme on certain distro and ignore the necessity... -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
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Salam n good day Years as an ICT personnel before never put some firm reason for me to be involved in open source development, support open source group etc because using open source or not, I still can finish my study / work.. doesn't bother with RM300++ for windows or other proprietary software. Personally I use windows because I played games, photo n video editing n such. But, things had change when I was entitled as 'orang gomen'. Being in government sector really open my eyes to the expenditure of each penny of tax payer money or malaysian should say 'duit rakyat'. Something that we already took for granted as 'duit kerajaan' and without thinking, something normally cost about RM4 could be charge RM6 because the 'government is paying'. But, try to think it very hard. All the tax payers money, in economically bad scenario such as today, should spend wisely on higher priority area. And as from my humble opinion, paying RM4 millions to buy a proprietary system is not worth it for malaysian as we can build the system ourselves. And so, the RM4 mil can go to other sector such as health care, medicine, better roads, education etc... As a system developer in government sector urges me to use open source, built system with lower cost and find solutions for each and every problem arose during implementation so that each penny saved from my effort could go to even more significant sector. For that reason, I never emphasize on OS comparison, which is better and which is not. It is about what we should do and put our effort on. IMHO, Using open source is the best for government as we could saved millions ringgit of duit rakyat just by develop our own system using open source. the RM 4500.00 server is running on linux, web on apache, db on mysql, language is php n javascript. my salary is less than RM40K/year and all that is very far from RM200 k spent for license n maintenance each year if we bought the system Rasulullah s.a.w. bersabda yang bermaksud: Orang Mukmin yang paling sempurna imannya ialah yang paling baik akhlaknya. (Hadith Riwayat Ahmad). On 14 March 2011 12:35, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.comwrote: +1 too ;) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Nicely said Mr Fauzi, +1 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed in it and finish my work there. There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for? My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is not bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop. And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the others for the spirit of open source. OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions. Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to only use 'that apps' for 'that works'. It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton Saga. We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not die when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu, Red Hat,
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ada button Like x? saya setuju point#2 utk rebranding mana-mana linux distro utk jadi nama LinuxMalaysia :) tuan haris dah trademark ke perkataan LinuxMalaysia tu? hehheheh :) regards, azmi 2011/3/13 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Sebentar tadi baru saya terfikir, sedang kita minta mana-mana Distros untuk release source codes mereka, kita sebenarnya meminta yang sememang telah disebarkan oleh setiap projek dan perisian OSS yang dalam Distros. Sebagai contoh :- 1) Apabila sesebuah Distros mengatakan mereka base on Linux, maka dengan sendirinya kita boleh dapatkan source codes Kernel Linux dan apa jua yang digunakan oleh Distro tersebut terus daripada projek websites. Kita hanya perlu tahu apa yang mereka gunakan dan thats it. Source codes sememang ada dimana. Soalan saya, kepada pengguna Linux Distro seperti Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse dan Fedora, siapa yang config repos atau yum atau apt untuk download source codes RPM atau DEB. Saya pun tak mahu sebab terlalu besar 2) Jika ada customization atau sebarang trademark dimasukkan dalam hasil Distro maka ia adalah hak punya pembuatnya dan pemilik trademark. Sebagai contoh, jika kita ambil CD ubuntu dan keluarkan semua dalam CD tersebut apa jua trademark Ubuntu, dan sebarkan semula sebagai CD Linux, maka kita tidak salah.. Sebab isi perut CD adalah perisian OSS. Kita telah keluarkan perkara yang Canonical akan marah, perkataan dan logo Ubuntu. Begitu juga dalam kes Centos. Semua trademark dan copyright dan apa jua software bukan OSS telah dikeluarkan dan disebarkan semula sebagai Centos. Red Hat tidak bising pun... Malah secara tidak rasmi membantu pihak komuniti Centos untuk kenal pasti mana Red Hat yang punya dan diminta dikeluarkan. Jadi soalan saya, jika saya ambil asal dulu CD ubuntu yang dah jadi CD Linux kemudian saya customize dan masukkan logo dan apa jua nama saya dan namakan Distro LinuxMalaysia, adakah saya salah? 3) Apa juga perisian yang dibuat sendiri pembangun adalah hak mereka. Sekiranya mereka putuskan apa yang mereka tulis dan compile adalah copyright mereka dan source codes hak mereka, maka itu hak mereka. Jika mereka sebarkan dalam CD Linux distros pun, kita masih tiada hak untuk menuntut mereka perlu tunjukkan source codes. Perisian tertutup yang dijalankan atas Linux yang sumber terbuka tiada kaitan apa pun dari segi lesen. Lesen anda adalah lesen anda dan lesen saya adalah lesen saya. Yang terdekat adalah Googlebuntu. Banyak lagi saya nak tulis tapi sudah jauh malam dan mengantuk, saya biarkan ini dulu untuk perbincangan. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
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+1 :) محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 2011/3/14 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com ada button Like x? saya setuju point#2 utk rebranding mana-mana linux distro utk jadi nama LinuxMalaysia :) tuan haris dah trademark ke perkataan LinuxMalaysia tu? hehheheh :) regards, azmi 2011/3/13 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Sebentar tadi baru saya terfikir, sedang kita minta mana-mana Distros untuk release source codes mereka, kita sebenarnya meminta yang sememang telah disebarkan oleh setiap projek dan perisian OSS yang dalam Distros. Sebagai contoh :- 1) Apabila sesebuah Distros mengatakan mereka base on Linux, maka dengan sendirinya kita boleh dapatkan source codes Kernel Linux dan apa jua yang digunakan oleh Distro tersebut terus daripada projek websites. Kita hanya perlu tahu apa yang mereka gunakan dan thats it. Source codes sememang ada dimana. Soalan saya, kepada pengguna Linux Distro seperti Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse dan Fedora, siapa yang config repos atau yum atau apt untuk download source codes RPM atau DEB. Saya pun tak mahu sebab terlalu besar 2) Jika ada customization atau sebarang trademark dimasukkan dalam hasil Distro maka ia adalah hak punya pembuatnya dan pemilik trademark. Sebagai contoh, jika kita ambil CD ubuntu dan keluarkan semua dalam CD tersebut apa jua trademark Ubuntu, dan sebarkan semula sebagai CD Linux, maka kita tidak salah.. Sebab isi perut CD adalah perisian OSS. Kita telah keluarkan perkara yang Canonical akan marah, perkataan dan logo Ubuntu. Begitu juga dalam kes Centos. Semua trademark dan copyright dan apa jua software bukan OSS telah dikeluarkan dan disebarkan semula sebagai Centos. Red Hat tidak bising pun... Malah secara tidak rasmi membantu pihak komuniti Centos untuk kenal pasti mana Red Hat yang punya dan diminta dikeluarkan. Jadi soalan saya, jika saya ambil asal dulu CD ubuntu yang dah jadi CD Linux kemudian saya customize dan masukkan logo dan apa jua nama saya dan namakan Distro LinuxMalaysia, adakah saya salah? 3) Apa juga perisian yang dibuat sendiri pembangun adalah hak mereka. Sekiranya mereka putuskan apa yang mereka tulis dan compile adalah copyright mereka dan source codes hak mereka, maka itu hak mereka. Jika mereka sebarkan dalam CD Linux distros pun, kita masih tiada hak untuk menuntut mereka perlu tunjukkan source codes. Perisian tertutup yang dijalankan atas Linux yang sumber terbuka tiada kaitan apa pun dari segi lesen. Lesen anda adalah lesen anda dan lesen saya adalah lesen saya. Yang terdekat adalah Googlebuntu. Banyak lagi saya nak tulis tapi sudah jauh malam dan mengantuk, saya biarkan ini dulu untuk perbincangan. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
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aha ! menarik ni. imho, every software needs learning. red1, here is the challenge ;p. if he gets to solve it, then you should employ him to work on the payroll module for adempiere, coz it is not trivial. based on the lhdn jadual pcb : http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/SCHEDULESTD2010.pdf i would like him to do a worksheet, where a person can enter the following options 1. category : single / married spouse not working / married spouse working 2. number of children 3. monthly pay and the worksheet will show how much pcb is supposed to be deducted i believe pakcik google still have no solution for this ;-) now if he can solve it, compare how long it took him to solve it using a spreadsheet, as compared to if you had asked a java programmer to do it in a java app. with a few clicks and using google spreadsheet, your son can even turn his spreadsheet into a web app ;-) On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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hahaha baru lah pikiran korang terbuka kan? baguslah alhamdulillah semoga semua sukses hendaknya peace azhar 2011/3/13, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com: Hell I don't excel, don't even know how to calculate stuff properly or using macro, and I always curse that my vim short cut doesn't work when I use it On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
or my personal nightmare . i have come to know something which is worst than vb6 : database driven web applications using dreamweaver !!! aduh db connectors on every page !!! On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: worst, VB6.. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.netwrote: 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: interviewer : what software do you know ? interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] I think now you can see that the problem is not the tools but the education system itself. To continue this example, what those schools should teach is not Excel or OpenOffice calc, or Windows vs FiMOS but spreadsheet, word processor or operating system and pick one tools as 'referenced implementation' of these concepts. The same goes to programming language course or we would be forever getting a graduate who only know .NET or Java or even worse ... VB. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
try something new in linux like as VB6.. Gambas.. he3 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com or my personal nightmare . i have come to know something which is worst than vb6 : database driven web applications using dreamweaver !!! aduh db connectors on every page !!! On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: worst, VB6.. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.netwrote: 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: interviewer : what software do you know ? interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] I think now you can see that the problem is not the tools but the education system itself. To continue this example, what those schools should teach is not Excel or OpenOffice calc, or Windows vs FiMOS but spreadsheet, word processor or operating system and pick one tools as 'referenced implementation' of these concepts. The same goes to programming language course or we would be forever getting a graduate who only know .NET or Java or even worse ... VB. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
I (try to) teach my kids smart stuff such as 1. What _not_ to do such as 'try to be a clerk filling in gaji kakitangan gomen dalam spreadsheet. 2. Pareto principle - learn 20% that is worth 80% 3. Do what is important not urgent such as 'go play what u love which is badminton and forget about exams'. I believe those who landed in front of any interviewer is the ultimate insult. I got thru my first humiliating interview in April 1982 and never had any since then. The interview (Robert Teo, CEO of Dataprep M Sdn Bhd that time) said to me, "You are not to be treated special. I give you the lowest pay." Just because my name is 'bumi' sounding. *Gr* still fuming with the insult after all these years. On 3/13/11 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin wrote: Windows need no learning? That's kind of over-statement. Knowledge comes from experience sometimes, just because you 11-years old son could do well in Excel doesn't mean that he is already an expert in Windows. There is more to windows than just "Excel". There are infinity number of things that can be done easily on Linux but not Windows and vice versa. But I take that your field is limited to software like Excel. Also, computer is suppose to to help make our job easier and faster not the other way around. If Windows is easier to learn and use, then why do things the hard way? Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? Best Regards, Zarul Shahrin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Wah we hit with the chicken and eggs situation. What to do first. Do we just teach OSS to our students like OpenOffice.org and Linux Desktop or server anf then lets the market change. or we change the market demand that exist now. Teaching OSS in school, we did have thats experience during the implementation of projek perkomputeran makmal sekolah fasa 3 around years 2005 and 2006. Arafat, Husni, myself and many more in the project, as a trainer and went to schools around Malaysia teaching the use of Linux in School labs. We try our best to deliver what is Linux and how to use it. But, for me, we failed. We failed because we don't have many knowledge persons that can supports all the teachers and labs around Malaysia. The OSS had already landed in our school but what happen during the execution we lack of experience how to maintain and support the OSS in school. We don't have local company that can push support and lobbying of OSS until to the level that, the administration of schools, PTD, Negeri and Kementerian can see the benefits. LONG TERM benefits. Yes we can tell government with OSS the cost is free and we are free as independence from depending on one company. But what happen with the implementation, its not free. License is free but implementation still costly. To maintain is also costly. Without proper support and knowledge workers with OSS, its a lockin. Teachers need to wait for supports that also don't know about Linux. And what happen next, PC covert into Windows and dual boot PC only have Our kerajaan has tried it and they will always will. But I don't want the cycle failure of this process hits us again and failed us. We need to come out with a different plan and we need to think outside the box. How ? How we want to do this, politically winning it and we show the cost of implementation much more cheaper (ROI) Where ? In schools or in Universities. Which is which What ? Desktop or servers or programming Who? OSS community? We as OSS community need to support this seriuously. What? What we want to used. Ubuntu ke? OpenSuse ke? FiMOS ke? nanti distros war lagi. We as OSS community need to push this. Bukan lagi menyalak, tapi dengan cara pelaksanaan. 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: excellent point ! tajul has also pointed out a very valid point. ms windows and ms office are available to schools and students at a very discounted price. the larger problem is that all the it lab manuals / books are written based on ms products. therefore fimos need to address this larger overiding issue. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p As someone who is working in the security field and who previously worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux machine infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). Will not argue on this, it's a matter of choice. Everyone has the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around and play down how other people do things. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;) محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p As someone who is working in the security field and who previously worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux machine infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). Will not argue on this, it's a matter of choice. Everyone has the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around and play down how other people do things. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
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For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed in it and finish my work there. There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for? My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is not bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop. And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the others for the spirit of open source. OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions. Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to only use 'that apps' for 'that works'. It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton Saga. We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not die when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, or any other distro features, just do it! In my point of view, I see FiMOS is one of the linux distro among thousands or millions of other distros that is not currently even listed in distrowatch.com On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: The technology being used in RKHunter is 10-15 years behinds any standard Windows anti-rookit. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;) محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p As someone who is working in the security field and who previously worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux machine infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). Will not argue on this, it's a matter of choice. Everyone has the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around and play down how other people do things. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee
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Nicely said Mr Fauzi, +1 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed in it and finish my work there. There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for? My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is not bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop. And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the others for the spirit of open source. OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions. Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to only use 'that apps' for 'that works'. It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton Saga. We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not die when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, or any other distro features, just do it! In my point of view, I see FiMOS is one of the linux distro among thousands or millions of other distros that is not currently even listed in distrowatch.com On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: The technology being used in RKHunter is 10-15 years behinds any standard Windows anti-rookit. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;) محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com wrote: Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p As someone who is working in the security field and who previously worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux machine infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). Will not argue on this, it's a matter of choice. Everyone has the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around and play down how other people do things. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer :
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+1 too ;) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Nicely said Mr Fauzi, +1 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed in it and finish my work there. There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for? My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is not bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop. And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the others for the spirit of open source. OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions. Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to only use 'that apps' for 'that works'. It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton Saga. We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not die when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, or any other distro features, just do it! In my point of view, I see FiMOS is one of the linux distro among thousands or millions of other distros that is not currently even listed in distrowatch.com On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: The technology being used in RKHunter is 10-15 years behinds any standard Windows anti-rookit. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;) محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com wrote: Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p As someone who is working in the security field and who previously worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux machine infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). Will not argue on this, it's a matter of choice. Everyone has the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around and play down how other people do things. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what
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I do agree what rafe said. Community is an open group, so there's should nothing involving one person thought. For me, what FiMOS do is not really be accepted at the beginning, but if you think back, FiMOS is not like molloin dololars Canonical that can produce and ship the disk for free. When I were planning to do our own distro priject with bizkut (well not a really a distro, which is now has been freeze because of some problem), the idea are still the same but came out with limited edition netbooks. Reasons? Nakkan modal balik dulu. Mungkin peringkat awal mereka jual, tapi siapa tau akhirnya jadi seperti Sabily; an Ubuntu based that build up with an edition for that distro, but in the end they has been accused violated the trademark (which is clearly they did), and after transforming to Sabily, they manage to make their own version although still dependent to Ubuntu but still, they have their own repository. That's one one man job, tapi komuniti Ubuntu Muslim Edition di waktu itu menentukan. Walaupun marketing berbeza, tapi stratergy masih sama. Harap-harap pihak FiMOS dapat lepaskan source code supaya bertepatan dengan lesen GNU-GPL v3.0. Apa-apa pun good luck, the community will back up the project and let's the project bloom. Harap thred ni *kalau boleh* tamat di sini ajelah, penat den nak baca satu-satu. Ahaks! OshiriX? sampai sekarang aku jumpa siapa developer diorang. HAHA. (wait, I heard that distro has been made by one person only) :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have commented regardless or you might end up in a hole where you can't see the light anymore. And to note to that how sure are you when you put a statement above when you said open bravo and open core are limited by capacity toward the OSS movement? You better be ready to stand and defend your statement, where if you see and read in the mailing list a statement and explaination was clearly spoken upon. rafe On Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com menulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that mo... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group
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@Rizer, nop, this time's Inter-Distro Workshop is the 2nd ones. The 1st ones only Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, FreeBSD/PCBSD Sabily attend. @Syazwan, OshiriX is powerful. A very good distro. The developer wanted to remain anonymous, which we all should respect his decision, coz his intention, is only to share what he made with the public, and not asking for fame. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Bermula dari oshirix lah.. saya kenal linux... alhamdullilah~ On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Rizer, nop, this time's Inter-Distro Workshop is the 2nd ones. The 1st ones only Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, FreeBSD/PCBSD Sabily attend. @Syazwan, OshiriX is powerful. A very good distro. The developer wanted to remain anonymous, which we all should respect his decision, coz his intention, is only to share what he made with the public, and not asking for fame. -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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kalau dapat jumpa orang buat OshiriX tu, memang menuntut aku buat kernal compiling On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:39 PM, MASOKIS maso...@gmail.com wrote: Bermula dari oshirix lah.. saya kenal linux... alhamdullilah~ On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Rizer, nop, this time's Inter-Distro Workshop is the 2nd ones. The 1st ones only Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, FreeBSD/PCBSD Sabily attend. @Syazwan, OshiriX is powerful. A very good distro. The developer wanted to remain anonymous, which we all should respect his decision, coz his intention, is only to share what he made with the public, and not asking for fame. -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Sy tetap sokong tuan tajul . Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:31:43 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Sabily violated and accused by Ubuntu? I think its just misunderstanding from Canonical Management, and after Sabily developer manage to meet Mark Shuttleworth personally, he don't have any problem if Sabily want to use the name Ubuntu Muslim Edition, eventhough we had change our name to Sabily. Surprisingly, he didn't know that we have been accused to use word Ubuntu Muslim Edition. After a discussion made in mailing list, everybody agreed to use Sabily as a project name, and Mark don't have any problem with that. Sabily is clearly derivatives from Ubuntu like edubuntu or kubuntu or any derivatives from Ubuntu. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian I do agree what rafe said. Community is an open group, so there's should nothing involving one person thought. For me, what FiMOS do is not really be accepted at the beginning, but if you think back, FiMOS is not like molloin dololars Canonical that can produce and ship the disk for free. When I were planning to do our own distro priject with bizkut (well not a really a distro, which is now has been freeze because of some problem), the idea are still the same but came out with limited edition netbooks. Reasons? Nakkan modal balik dulu. Mungkin peringkat awal mereka jual, tapi siapa tau akhirnya jadi seperti Sabily; an Ubuntu based that build up with an edition for that distro, but in the end they has been accused violated the trademark (which is clearly they did), and after transforming to Sabily, they manage to make their own version although still dependent to Ubuntu but still, they have their own repository. That's one one man job, tapi komuniti Ubuntu Muslim Edition di waktu itu menentukan. Walaupun marketing berbeza, tapi stratergy masih sama. Harap-harap pihak FiMOS dapat lepaskan source code supaya bertepatan dengan lesen GNU-GPL v3.0. Apa-apa pun good luck, the community will back up the project and let's the project bloom. Harap thred ni *kalau boleh* tamat di sini ajelah, penat den nak baca satu-satu. Ahaks! OshiriX? sampai sekarang aku jumpa siapa developer diorang. HAHA. (wait, I heard that distro has been made by one person only) :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Sokong? Cam mengundi je ;) P.S: Jangan lupa bawa ole2 dari Sarawak Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:34:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Sy tetap sokong tuan tajul . Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:31:43 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Sabily violated and accused by Ubuntu? I think its just misunderstanding from Canonical Management, and after Sabily developer manage to meet Mark Shuttleworth personally, he don't have any problem if Sabily want to use the name Ubuntu Muslim Edition, eventhough we had change our name to Sabily. Surprisingly, he didn't know that we have been accused to use word Ubuntu Muslim Edition. After a discussion made in mailing list, everybody agreed to use Sabily as a project name, and Mark don't have any problem with that. Sabily is clearly derivatives from Ubuntu like edubuntu or kubuntu or any derivatives from Ubuntu. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian I do agree what rafe said. Community is an open group, so there's should nothing involving one person thought. For me, what FiMOS do is not really be accepted at the beginning, but if you think back, FiMOS is not like molloin dololars Canonical that can produce and ship the disk for free. When I were planning to do our own distro priject with bizkut (well not a really a distro, which is now has been freeze because of some problem), the idea are still the same but came out with limited edition netbooks. Reasons? Nakkan modal balik dulu. Mungkin peringkat awal mereka jual, tapi siapa tau akhirnya jadi seperti Sabily; an Ubuntu based that build up with an edition for that distro, but in the end they has been accused violated the trademark (which is clearly they did), and after transforming to Sabily, they manage to make their own version although still dependent to Ubuntu but still, they have their own repository. That's one one man job, tapi komuniti Ubuntu Muslim Edition di waktu itu menentukan. Walaupun marketing berbeza, tapi stratergy masih sama. Harap-harap pihak FiMOS dapat lepaskan source code supaya bertepatan dengan lesen GNU-GPL v3.0. Apa-apa pun good luck, the community will back up the project and let's the project bloom. Harap thred ni *kalau boleh* tamat di sini ajelah, penat den nak baca satu-satu. Ahaks! OshiriX? sampai sekarang aku jumpa siapa developer diorang. HAHA. (wait, I heard that distro has been made by one person only) :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Saya mengucapkan agar projek FiMOS ni berjaya. Semoga mencapai sasaran yang hendak dicapai. Semoga pembangunan FiMOS ni berterusan. Saya cadangkan agar buka 1 IRC @ FORUM @ Mailing list tersendiri dari FiMOS. Supaya boleh dirujuk untuk tujuan dokumentasi, penyelidikan, aduan masalah dan sebagainya. Lagipun memudahkan pihak pembangun untuk merekod dan menapis informasi.sepanjang saya menuntut, saya minat untuk mengali hasil pembangunan anak tempatan. Saya pun tak tahu kenapa..cuma saya rasa, saya suka menkaji dan belajar. Bagi saya, OSS yang utama ialah sistem operasi iaitu linux. barulah dituruti dengan perisian. nak bawa nama sistem-operasi ni mesti susahkan ? saya pun tak manpu.. tapi saya dah ada mencuba banyak kali. sangat susah. Jadi, mungkin pihak FiMOS boleh tunjuk ajar sedikit sebanyak bagaimana RD dibuat. pandangan saya, semua komen harus diterima dan difikirkan. Ambil yang menjadi kekurangan itu untuk dibaiki. yang lain, boleh diabaikan sahaja. Sejarah mengajar kita untuk meperbaiki kesilapan. Saya juga minta maaf sebab my1os dahulu, niat saya nak belajar mcmana hendak remaster sesebuah distro... tapi ada yang salah faham pula.. tapi semua dah selesai, alhamdulillah :) saya juga dah cuba fahami (http://www.opensource.org/osd.html) maksud sumber-terbuka. semoga perjalanan FiMOS berjalan lancar. bergitu juga dengan pembangunan sistem operasi seperti oshirix , simpleLinux lain-lain lagi serta pembangunan perisian. Selamat maju jaya. :') P.s : maaf.. pakai taip je, tak sempat nak susun ayat . cuma nak melontarkan 1 pandangan. -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Sebentar tadi baru saya terfikir, sedang kita minta mana-mana Distros untuk release source codes mereka, kita sebenarnya meminta yang sememang telah disebarkan oleh setiap projek dan perisian OSS yang dalam Distros. Sebagai contoh :- 1) Apabila sesebuah Distros mengatakan mereka base on Linux, maka dengan sendirinya kita boleh dapatkan source codes Kernel Linux dan apa jua yang digunakan oleh Distro tersebut terus daripada projek websites. Kita hanya perlu tahu apa yang mereka gunakan dan thats it. Source codes sememang ada dimana. Soalan saya, kepada pengguna Linux Distro seperti Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse dan Fedora, siapa yang config repos atau yum atau apt untuk download source codes RPM atau DEB. Saya pun tak mahu sebab terlalu besar 2) Jika ada customization atau sebarang trademark dimasukkan dalam hasil Distro maka ia adalah hak punya pembuatnya dan pemilik trademark. Sebagai contoh, jika kita ambil CD ubuntu dan keluarkan semua dalam CD tersebut apa jua trademark Ubuntu, dan sebarkan semula sebagai CD Linux, maka kita tidak salah.. Sebab isi perut CD adalah perisian OSS. Kita telah keluarkan perkara yang Canonical akan marah, perkataan dan logo Ubuntu. Begitu juga dalam kes Centos. Semua trademark dan copyright dan apa jua software bukan OSS telah dikeluarkan dan disebarkan semula sebagai Centos. Red Hat tidak bising pun... Malah secara tidak rasmi membantu pihak komuniti Centos untuk kenal pasti mana Red Hat yang punya dan diminta dikeluarkan. Jadi soalan saya, jika saya ambil asal dulu CD ubuntu yang dah jadi CD Linux kemudian saya customize dan masukkan logo dan apa jua nama saya dan namakan Distro LinuxMalaysia, adakah saya salah? 3) Apa juga perisian yang dibuat sendiri pembangun adalah hak mereka. Sekiranya mereka putuskan apa yang mereka tulis dan compile adalah copyright mereka dan source codes hak mereka, maka itu hak mereka. Jika mereka sebarkan dalam CD Linux distros pun, kita masih tiada hak untuk menuntut mereka perlu tunjukkan source codes. Perisian tertutup yang dijalankan atas Linux yang sumber terbuka tiada kaitan apa pun dari segi lesen. Lesen anda adalah lesen anda dan lesen saya adalah lesen saya. Yang terdekat adalah Googlebuntu. Banyak lagi saya nak tulis tapi sudah jauh malam dan mengantuk, saya biarkan ini dulu untuk perbincangan. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
it is misunderstanding, but after the Sabily guy met Shuttleworth. lagipun banyak sangat version, nak follow mana satu pun payah. the stories goes same with Ultimate Edition (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition) and some number of project that got 'buntu' at the back :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: Sabily violated and accused by Ubuntu? I think its just misunderstanding from Canonical Management, and after Sabily developer manage to meet Mark Shuttleworth personally, he don't have any problem if Sabily want to use the name Ubuntu Muslim Edition, eventhough we had change our name to Sabily. Surprisingly, he didn't know that we have been accused to use word Ubuntu Muslim Edition. After a discussion made in mailing list, everybody agreed to use Sabily as a project name, and Mark don't have any problem with that. Sabily is clearly derivatives from Ubuntu like edubuntu or kubuntu or any derivatives from Ubuntu. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:04 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian I do agree what rafe said. Community is an open group, so there's should nothing involving one person thought. For me, what FiMOS do is not really be accepted at the beginning, but if you think back, FiMOS is not like molloin dololars Canonical that can produce and ship the disk for free. When I were planning to do our own distro priject with bizkut (well not a really a distro, which is now has been freeze because of some problem), the idea are still the same but came out with limited edition netbooks. Reasons? Nakkan modal balik dulu. Mungkin peringkat awal mereka jual, tapi siapa tau akhirnya jadi seperti Sabily; an Ubuntu based that build up with an edition for that distro, but in the end they has been accused violated the trademark (which is clearly they did), and after transforming to Sabily, they manage to make their own version although still dependent to Ubuntu but still, they have their own repository. That's one one man job, tapi komuniti Ubuntu Muslim Edition di waktu itu menentukan. Walaupun marketing berbeza, tapi stratergy masih sama. Harap-harap pihak FiMOS dapat lepaskan source code supaya bertepatan dengan lesen GNU-GPL v3.0. Apa-apa pun good luck, the community will back up the project and let's the project bloom. Harap thred ni *kalau boleh* tamat di sini ajelah, penat den nak baca satu-satu. Ahaks! OshiriX? sampai sekarang aku jumpa siapa developer diorang. HAHA. (wait, I heard that distro has been made by one person only) :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
itu dah besau sangat tu..kasi dalam FiMOS aje sudeh :p 2011/3/13 Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com Kita nak bincang dalam ruang lingkup OSS atau ruang lingkup FiMOS. Saya rasa better dalam tajuk baru, sebab nanti kita akan mengambil contoh FiMOS dan membuka semula isu My1OS atau FiMOS. Kita buka tajuk baru cemana? Sekadar cadangan Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:19:08 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Sebentar tadi baru saya terfikir, sedang kita minta mana-mana Distros untuk release source codes mereka, kita sebenarnya meminta yang sememang telah disebarkan oleh setiap projek dan perisian OSS yang dalam Distros. Sebagai contoh :- 1) Apabila sesebuah Distros mengatakan mereka base on Linux, maka dengan sendirinya kita boleh dapatkan source codes Kernel Linux dan apa jua yang digunakan oleh Distro tersebut terus daripada projek websites. Kita hanya perlu tahu apa yang mereka gunakan dan thats it. Source codes sememang ada dimana. Soalan saya, kepada pengguna Linux Distro seperti Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse dan Fedora, siapa yang config repos atau yum atau apt untuk download source codes RPM atau DEB. Saya pun tak mahu sebab terlalu besar 2) Jika ada customization atau sebarang trademark dimasukkan dalam hasil Distro maka ia adalah hak punya pembuatnya dan pemilik trademark. Sebagai contoh, jika kita ambil CD ubuntu dan keluarkan semua dalam CD tersebut apa jua trademark Ubuntu, dan sebarkan semula sebagai CD Linux, maka kita tidak salah.. Sebab isi perut CD adalah perisian OSS. Kita telah keluarkan perkara yang Canonical akan marah, perkataan dan logo Ubuntu. Begitu juga dalam kes Centos. Semua trademark dan copyright dan apa jua software bukan OSS telah dikeluarkan dan disebarkan semula sebagai Centos. Red Hat tidak bising pun... Malah secara tidak rasmi membantu pihak komuniti Centos untuk kenal pasti mana Red Hat yang punya dan diminta dikeluarkan. Jadi soalan saya, jika saya ambil asal dulu CD ubuntu yang dah jadi CD Linux kemudian saya customize dan masukkan logo dan apa jua nama saya dan namakan Distro LinuxMalaysia, adakah saya salah? 3) Apa juga perisian yang dibuat sendiri pembangun adalah hak mereka. Sekiranya mereka putuskan apa yang mereka tulis dan compile adalah copyright mereka dan source codes hak mereka, maka itu hak mereka. Jika mereka sebarkan dalam CD Linux distros pun, kita masih tiada hak untuk menuntut mereka perlu tunjukkan source codes. Perisian tertutup yang dijalankan atas Linux yang sumber terbuka tiada kaitan apa pun dari segi lesen. Lesen anda adalah lesen anda dan lesen saya adalah lesen saya. Yang terdekat adalah Googlebuntu. Banyak lagi saya nak tulis tapi sudah jauh malam dan mengantuk, saya biarkan ini dulu untuk perbincangan. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: it is misunderstanding, but after the Sabily guy met Shuttleworth. lagipun banyak sangat version, nak follow mana satu pun payah. the stories goes same with Ultimate Edition (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition) and some number of project that got 'buntu' at the back :p maybe this will help (it's not sabily, but one of the project got 'Ubuntu' name) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyPeasy#Trademark_issues On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: Sabily violated and accused by Ubuntu? I think its just misunderstanding from Canonical Management, and after Sabily developer manage to meet Mark Shuttleworth personally, he don't have any problem if Sabily want to use the name Ubuntu Muslim Edition, eventhough we had change our name to Sabily. Surprisingly, he didn't know that we have been accused to use word Ubuntu Muslim Edition. After a discussion made in mailing list, everybody agreed to use Sabily as a project name, and Mark don't have any problem with that. Sabily is clearly derivatives from Ubuntu like edubuntu or kubuntu or any derivatives from Ubuntu. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:04 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian I do agree what rafe said. Community is an open group, so there's should nothing involving one person thought. For me, what FiMOS do is not really be accepted at the beginning, but if you think back, FiMOS is not like molloin dololars Canonical that can produce and ship the disk for free. When I were planning to do our own distro priject with bizkut (well not a really a distro, which is now has been freeze because of some problem), the idea are still the same but came out with limited edition netbooks. Reasons? Nakkan modal balik dulu. Mungkin peringkat awal mereka jual, tapi siapa tau akhirnya jadi seperti Sabily; an Ubuntu based that build up with an edition for that distro, but in the end they has been accused violated the trademark (which is clearly they did), and after transforming to Sabily, they manage to make their own version although still dependent to Ubuntu but still, they have their own repository. That's one one man job, tapi komuniti Ubuntu Muslim Edition di waktu itu menentukan. Walaupun marketing berbeza, tapi stratergy masih sama. Harap-harap pihak FiMOS dapat lepaskan source code supaya bertepatan dengan lesen GNU-GPL v3.0. Apa-apa pun good luck, the community will back up the project and let's the project bloom. Harap thred ni *kalau boleh* tamat di sini ajelah, penat den nak baca satu-satu. Ahaks! OshiriX? sampai sekarang aku jumpa siapa developer diorang. HAHA. (wait, I heard that distro has been made by one person only) :p On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun mereka tidak dapat nak sebut pun nama Redhat atau bagitahu asal mereka daripada RedHat. Dalam OSS kita boleh ambil, pakej balik, edar balik dan yang paling penting kita boleh tahu dari mana hendak dapatkan source codes semua software OSS, tidak semesti daripada packager. Tanggung jawab mereka bagitahu, jangan lindung atau tukar nama apa2 OSS dalam edaran mereka. Dan tidak semesti mereka perlu buka mulut. Apabila kita dapat CD, maka kita boleh buka lihat dan fahamkan inti pati OS mereka. Mereka tidak berhak saman kita pun. Ia akan jadi kesalahan kepada FiMOS jika mereka marah kepada kita apabila kita hack, korek, edit dan ambil tahu OSS dalam CD mereka. Selagi mereka OK dan tidak bertindak saman atau katakan itu OSS mereka punya then kita tiada masalah dan mereka tiada masalah. Kalau sebaliknya berlaku then kita kena fight for it. Tapi kita perlu ingat, brand nama FiMOS adalah hak mereka, trademark dan copyright. Mereka berhak untuk pertahankan trandemark dan copyright itu. Mereka berhak saman kita jika kita salah guna trademark nama mereka. Malah mereka sebenarnya boleh saman kita kerana gunakan nama FiMOS dalam niat tidak baik. Rumitnya isu trademark ni. Tapi anda semua perlu tahu. kita sebenarnya boleh disaman malu. Dan bagi saya, jika ada berlaku kes dimana, packager FiMOS diambil oleh syarikat lain dan diubah dan dikeluarkan FiMOS dan diedarkan, mereka tidak boleh marah. :) tapi jika syarikat itu katakan OSS dalam CD itu hak mereka, maka FiMOS boleh mewakili kita untuk pertahankan OSS dalam packager yang asal daripada mereka. Rumitkan perkara-perkara dalam OSS ... Sebagai packager, tidak kira FiMOS, OShirix, SimpleLinux dan Sabily, anda semua berhak untuk pakejkan khidmat bayaran terhadap usaha edaran dan sokongan terhadap hasil distros anda. Berapa harganya pun, itu ikut kiraan masing-masing, kalau nak bagi free pun bagus. Tapi khidmat sokongan ini belanjanya besar. Gaji nak bayar, helpdesk nak bayar dan admin nak bayar. Its cost. So jangan sampai rugi dan lepas tu hilang.. Its happen too last Malaysian distros Bagi kita, jika rasa mahal support tu, Hmmm, pandai-pandailah runding harga.. Tawar menawar. :) Ada perkara mungkin kita tidak selesa dan tidak setuju, tapi dalam dunia OSS ni, ia tidak salah. Contoh, jika FiMOS tidak sediakan kemudahan download distros mereka, itu tidak salah, sebab mereka telah memilih untuk edarkan dengan cara kita perlu beli CD mereka dan perkhidmatan mereka. Mereka telah memilih cara edaran yang boleh diterima pakai dalam lesen OSS. Wahhh, pening-pening, saya pun mula-mula pening. Selepas naik motor berjam-jam hari2 pergi kerja dan lawat projek2, baru saya terfikir, ia tidak jadi satu kesalahan sebab kita masih ada satu perkara. Kita pun boleh buat macam mereka. I can build my own Linux. Atau dengan cara Centos pun boleh, beli CD mereka dan kemudian edarkan semula dengan keluarkan semua trademark FiMOS. Kita bebas untuk melakukan ia, tiada halangan daripada segi lesen OSS... Ramai antara anda mungkin tidak tempoh zaman saya mula-mula dengan Linux. Download 1 CD aje dekat seminggu. Its cost us. Waktu tu sekitar 1999 Internet mahal dan perlahan. Secara tidak langsung kita sebenarnya telah membayar edaran Linux. Ada juga syarikat waktu
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Nampaknya hasil yang digubal di dalam linux Fimos menggunakan framework bisnes yang baik. Tapi kadangkala tidak difahami oleh pengguna biasa dan baru yang didedahkan oleh Ubuntu dalam idea mereka yang menekankan prinsip free sampai bila-bila. Fimos dah bergerak laju dihadapan depan pengurusan mereka menekankan support yang agak sukar dan membosankan pengguna baru yang ingin menggunakan Linux dan tidak mahu memikirkan masalah apabila menggunakan Linux. Langkah OSDC memantau pergerakan pembangunan Fimos adalah baik dan juga pemahaman kepada pengguna terhadap penggunaan Linux juga difikirkan perlu kerana jika di dalam Kementerian Pelajaran sendiri, licence untuk penggunaan produk adalah serendah RM 30 dengan hanya menunjukkan identiti anda sebagai pelajar atau kakitangan Kementerian Pelajaran anda layak mendapat harga produk daripada Microsoft daripada harga serendah RM 30. Cabaran Fimos untuk memasuki Kementerian Pelajaran (sehingga ke peringkat sekolah dan Matrikulasi) perlu dikaji semula memandangkan harga yang ditawarkan mereka sebelum ini adalah RM 111 (betulkan saya jika ianya salah) dan harga yang ditawarkan daripada Microsoft adalah serendah RM 30, manakala Kolej-kolej Matrikulasi dalam cadangan menggunakan Ubuntu sebagai Sistem Pengendali Ubuntu secara total memandangkan kestabilan dan keselesaan dalam Teachinng and Learning Material mereka. Tindakan fimos menggunakan nama selain daripada Ubuntu juga adalah betul (jika source code diambil daripada Ubuntu) kerana Canonical sendiri melarang sebarang penjualan Ubuntu Derivatives seperti yang dinyatakan di dalam Laman Web mereka. Persoalannya, kita mahu menyokong dan kita semestinya tidak mahu OS ini lenyap satu hari nanti dan langkah dan rapi dan support yang berterusan haruslah dirangka, manakala OSDC sebagai satu badan yang mempunyai rangkaian expert yang tinggi boleh membantu dalam pembangunan OS mereka. Sekadar pandangan biasa saya. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun mereka tidak dapat nak sebut pun nama Redhat atau bagitahu asal mereka daripada RedHat. Dalam OSS kita boleh ambil, pakej balik, edar balik dan yang paling penting kita boleh tahu dari mana hendak dapatkan source codes semua software OSS, tidak semesti daripada packager. Tanggung jawab mereka bagitahu, jangan lindung atau tukar nama apa2 OSS dalam edaran mereka. Dan tidak semesti mereka perlu buka mulut. Apabila kita dapat CD, maka kita boleh buka lihat dan fahamkan inti pati OS mereka. Mereka tidak berhak saman kita pun. Ia akan jadi kesalahan kepada FiMOS jika mereka marah kepada kita apabila kita hack, korek, edit dan ambil tahu OSS dalam CD mereka. Selagi mereka OK dan tidak bertindak saman atau katakan itu OSS mereka punya then kita tiada masalah dan mereka tiada masalah. Kalau sebaliknya berlaku then kita kena fight for it. Tapi kita perlu ingat, brand nama FiMOS adalah hak mereka, trademark dan copyright. Mereka berhak untuk pertahankan trandemark dan copyright itu. Mereka berhak saman kita jika kita salah guna trademark nama mereka. Malah mereka sebenarnya boleh saman kita kerana gunakan nama FiMOS dalam niat tidak baik. Rumitnya isu trademark ni. Tapi anda semua perlu tahu. kita sebenarnya boleh disaman malu. Dan bagi saya, jika ada berlaku kes dimana, packager FiMOS diambil
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Bukan ko sentiasa lapar dan 'mematahkan' benda ke E1? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:12:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun mereka tidak dapat nak sebut pun nama Redhat atau bagitahu asal mereka daripada RedHat. Dalam OSS kita boleh ambil, pakej balik, edar balik dan yang paling penting kita boleh tahu dari mana hendak dapatkan source codes semua software OSS, tidak semesti daripada packager. Tanggung jawab mereka bagitahu, jangan lindung atau tukar nama apa2 OSS dalam edaran mereka. Dan tidak semesti mereka perlu buka mulut. Apabila kita dapat CD, maka kita boleh buka lihat dan fahamkan inti pati OS mereka. Mereka tidak berhak saman kita pun. Ia akan jadi kesalahan kepada FiMOS jika mereka marah kepada kita apabila kita hack, korek, edit dan ambil tahu OSS dalam CD mereka. Selagi mereka OK dan tidak bertindak saman atau katakan itu OSS mereka punya then kita tiada masalah dan mereka tiada masalah. Kalau sebaliknya berlaku then kita kena fight for it. Tapi kita perlu ingat, brand nama FiMOS adalah hak mereka, trademark dan copyright. Mereka berhak untuk pertahankan trandemark dan copyright itu. Mereka berhak saman kita jika kita salah guna trademark nama mereka. Malah mereka sebenarnya boleh saman kita kerana gunakan nama FiMOS dalam niat tidak baik. Rumitnya isu trademark ni. Tapi anda semua perlu tahu. kita sebenarnya boleh disaman malu. Dan bagi saya, jika ada berlaku kes dimana, packager FiMOS diambil oleh syarikat lain dan diubah dan dikeluarkan FiMOS dan diedarkan, mereka tidak boleh marah. :) tapi jika syarikat itu katakan OSS dalam CD itu hak mereka, maka FiMOS boleh mewakili kita untuk pertahankan OSS dalam packager yang asal daripada mereka. Rumitkan perkara-perkara dalam OSS ... Sebagai packager, tidak kira FiMOS, OShirix, SimpleLinux dan Sabily, anda semua berhak untuk pakejkan khidmat bayaran terhadap usaha edaran dan sokongan terhadap hasil distros anda. Berapa harganya pun, itu ikut kiraan masing-masing, kalau nak bagi free pun bagus. Tapi khidmat sokongan ini belanjanya besar. Gaji nak bayar, helpdesk nak bayar dan admin nak bayar. Its cost. So jangan sampai rugi dan lepas tu hilang.. Its happen too last Malaysian distros Bagi kita, jika rasa mahal support tu, Hmmm, pandai-pandailah runding harga.. Tawar menawar. :) Ada perkara mungkin kita tidak selesa dan tidak setuju, tapi dalam dunia OSS ni, ia tidak salah. Contoh, jika FiMOS tidak sediakan kemudahan download distros mereka, itu tidak salah, sebab mereka telah memilih untuk edarkan dengan cara kita perlu beli CD mereka dan perkhidmatan mereka. Mereka telah memilih cara edaran yang boleh diterima pakai dalam lesen OSS. Wahhh, pening-pening, saya pun mula-mula pening. Selepas naik motor berjam-jam hari2 pergi kerja dan lawat projek2, baru saya terfikir, ia tidak jadi satu kesalahan sebab kita masih ada satu perkara. Kita pun boleh buat macam mereka. I can build my own Linux. Atau dengan cara Centos pun boleh, beli CD
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
fuh...gile punye panjang explaination.tp menarik.banyak lgi nak kene berguru.hurm... pasal ubuntu n kat Matrikulasi tu,ade betul nyer.sbb skrng nie mostly matrikulasi ade bljr sal OSS kat sane,lam sabjek sains informatik.(demn,zaman ak dlu xde la bljr OSS).tp bagi ak,tu satu perkembangan yang baek. tp ade 1 soalan,ak xtau la sama ade mnde nie terjadik kat mane2 lam govt or swasta,tp kdg2 ak rase mcm kdg2 cepat berubah.kdg2,kite implement stuff baru2,software2 baru,technology baru lam company.tp sekejap je tahan.mcm xde plan for maybe 10 years. 2011/3/13 Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com: Bukan ko sentiasa lapar dan 'mematahkan' benda ke E1? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:12:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun mereka tidak dapat nak sebut pun nama Redhat atau bagitahu asal mereka daripada RedHat. Dalam OSS kita boleh ambil, pakej balik, edar balik dan yang paling penting kita boleh tahu dari mana hendak dapatkan source codes semua software OSS, tidak semesti daripada packager. Tanggung jawab mereka bagitahu, jangan lindung atau tukar nama apa2 OSS dalam edaran mereka. Dan tidak semesti mereka perlu buka mulut. Apabila kita dapat CD, maka kita boleh buka lihat dan fahamkan inti pati OS mereka. Mereka tidak berhak saman kita pun. Ia akan jadi kesalahan kepada FiMOS jika mereka marah kepada kita apabila kita hack, korek, edit dan ambil tahu OSS dalam CD mereka. Selagi mereka OK dan tidak bertindak saman atau katakan itu OSS mereka punya then kita tiada masalah dan mereka tiada masalah. Kalau sebaliknya berlaku then kita kena fight for it. Tapi kita perlu ingat, brand nama FiMOS adalah hak mereka, trademark dan copyright. Mereka berhak untuk pertahankan trandemark dan copyright itu. Mereka berhak saman kita jika kita salah guna trademark nama mereka. Malah mereka sebenarnya boleh saman kita kerana gunakan nama FiMOS dalam niat tidak baik. Rumitnya isu trademark ni. Tapi anda semua perlu tahu. kita sebenarnya boleh disaman malu. Dan bagi saya, jika ada berlaku kes dimana, packager FiMOS diambil oleh syarikat lain dan diubah dan dikeluarkan FiMOS dan diedarkan, mereka tidak boleh marah. :) tapi jika syarikat itu katakan OSS dalam CD itu hak mereka, maka FiMOS boleh mewakili kita untuk pertahankan OSS dalam packager yang asal daripada mereka. Rumitkan perkara-perkara dalam OSS ... Sebagai packager, tidak kira FiMOS, OShirix, SimpleLinux dan Sabily, anda semua berhak untuk pakejkan khidmat bayaran terhadap usaha edaran dan sokongan terhadap hasil distros anda. Berapa harganya pun, itu ikut kiraan masing-masing, kalau nak bagi free pun bagus. Tapi khidmat sokongan ini belanjanya besar. Gaji nak bayar, helpdesk nak bayar dan admin nak bayar. Its cost. So jangan sampai rugi dan lepas tu hilang.. Its happen too last Malaysian distros Bagi kita, jika rasa mahal support tu, Hmmm, pandai-pandailah
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Projek dalam OSS di Matrikulasi banyak onar dan duri. Tapi terima kasih harus diberikan kepada teman-teman di OSCC (walau dah takde tinggal nama) tapi planning dah berjalan selama 3 tahun yang lepas.. Agak perlahan tapi berjalan. Tak nak terlalu laju dan banyak issue yang perlu diselesaikan, terutama kesedaran dan kelebihan OSS dalam pendidikan pra universiti. Anda sendiri adalah pejuang OSS dan saya banyak berjumpa pelajar ex-matrikulasi meneruskan perjuangan mereka. Sebab apa? OSS bukan belajar berkenaan teknologi sahaja, bahkan berkisar kepada keikhlasan dan perkongisian ilmu yang tiada sempadan.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:47:51 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian fuh...gile punye panjang explaination.tp menarik.banyak lgi nak kene berguru.hurm... pasal ubuntu n kat Matrikulasi tu,ade betul nyer.sbb skrng nie mostly matrikulasi ade bljr sal OSS kat sane,lam sabjek sains informatik.(demn,zaman ak dlu xde la bljr OSS).tp bagi ak,tu satu perkembangan yang baek. tp ade 1 soalan,ak xtau la sama ade mnde nie terjadik kat mane2 lam govt or swasta,tp kdg2 ak rase mcm kdg2 cepat berubah.kdg2,kite implement stuff baru2,software2 baru,technology baru lam company.tp sekejap je tahan.mcm xde plan for maybe 10 years. 2011/3/13 Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com: Bukan ko sentiasa lapar dan 'mematahkan' benda ke E1? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:12:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun mereka tidak dapat nak sebut pun nama Redhat atau bagitahu asal mereka daripada RedHat. Dalam OSS kita boleh ambil, pakej balik, edar balik dan yang paling penting kita boleh tahu dari mana hendak dapatkan source codes semua software OSS, tidak semesti daripada packager. Tanggung jawab mereka bagitahu, jangan lindung atau tukar nama apa2 OSS dalam edaran mereka. Dan tidak semesti mereka perlu buka mulut. Apabila kita dapat CD, maka kita boleh buka lihat dan fahamkan inti pati OS mereka. Mereka tidak berhak saman kita pun. Ia akan jadi kesalahan kepada FiMOS jika mereka marah kepada kita apabila kita hack, korek, edit dan ambil tahu OSS dalam CD mereka. Selagi mereka OK dan tidak bertindak saman atau katakan itu OSS mereka punya then kita tiada masalah dan mereka tiada masalah. Kalau sebaliknya berlaku then kita kena fight for it. Tapi kita perlu ingat, brand nama FiMOS adalah hak mereka, trademark dan copyright. Mereka berhak untuk pertahankan trandemark dan copyright itu. Mereka berhak saman kita jika kita salah guna trademark nama mereka. Malah mereka sebenarnya boleh saman kita kerana gunakan nama FiMOS dalam niat tidak baik. Rumitnya isu trademark ni. Tapi
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excellent point ! tajul has also pointed out a very valid point. ms windows and ms office are available to schools and students at a very discounted price. the larger problem is that all the it lab manuals / books are written based on ms products. therefore fimos need to address this larger overiding issue. it is very easy for ms to justify why students should be learning using their products - coz it is by far the market dominant software for desktop - and all the employers represented by their hr dept heads know only of microsoft - even if they cant differentiate between windows and office. imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. 2011/3/13 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com fuh...gile punye panjang explaination.tp menarik.banyak lgi nak kene berguru.hurm... pasal ubuntu n kat Matrikulasi tu,ade betul nyer.sbb skrng nie mostly matrikulasi ade bljr sal OSS kat sane,lam sabjek sains informatik.(demn,zaman ak dlu xde la bljr OSS).tp bagi ak,tu satu perkembangan yang baek. tp ade 1 soalan,ak xtau la sama ade mnde nie terjadik kat mane2 lam govt or swasta,tp kdg2 ak rase mcm kdg2 cepat berubah.kdg2,kite implement stuff baru2,software2 baru,technology baru lam company.tp sekejap je tahan.mcm xde plan for maybe 10 years. 2011/3/13 Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com: Bukan ko sentiasa lapar dan 'mematahkan' benda ke E1? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:12:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada betulnya. Ia adalah isu trademark dan copyright Ubuntu. Bukan isu hendak sembunyikan hal yang sebenarnya. Perkara ini unik dalam business yang menggunakan OSS. Don't used my name even you are using my car. Hehehe.. Leceh-leceh. Kerana Canonical tidak mahu Ubuntu wpun disebut sebagai asal pun, kerana ia boleh dianggap sebagai promosi dan pergunakan nama Ubuntu untuk perniagaan atau perkara lain daripada Ubuntu. Harap anda dapat maksud saya. Contoh kita adalah CentOS, memang terang2 kita tengok nama fail dan setting macam Redhat, namun
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setuju dengan tajul juga tuan raja iskandar. kadang-kadang pihak universiti tak berani nak buat sebab mereka risau para graduan mereka tak dapat kerja pun satu hal juga. nanti dilabel universiti tak berkualiti. tak apa, perjalanan masih jauh, dan sampai masa nanti luas terbentang dan banyak exit untuk masuk ke IPT, insyaAllah. rasa kalau kita offer IPT yang boleh buat diploma/degree dengan LPI ok dak? kalau boleh, aku nak enroll masuk jadi 1st course student :p 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com excellent point ! tajul has also pointed out a very valid point. ms windows and ms office are available to schools and students at a very discounted price. the larger problem is that all the it lab manuals / books are written based on ms products. therefore fimos need to address this larger overiding issue. it is very easy for ms to justify why students should be learning using their products - coz it is by far the market dominant software for desktop - and all the employers represented by their hr dept heads know only of microsoft - even if they cant differentiate between windows and office. imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. 2011/3/13 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com fuh...gile punye panjang explaination.tp menarik.banyak lgi nak kene berguru.hurm... pasal ubuntu n kat Matrikulasi tu,ade betul nyer.sbb skrng nie mostly matrikulasi ade bljr sal OSS kat sane,lam sabjek sains informatik.(demn,zaman ak dlu xde la bljr OSS).tp bagi ak,tu satu perkembangan yang baek. tp ade 1 soalan,ak xtau la sama ade mnde nie terjadik kat mane2 lam govt or swasta,tp kdg2 ak rase mcm kdg2 cepat berubah.kdg2,kite implement stuff baru2,software2 baru,technology baru lam company.tp sekejap je tahan.mcm xde plan for maybe 10 years. 2011/3/13 Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com: Bukan ko sentiasa lapar dan 'mematahkan' benda ke E1? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:12:16 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian Terus lapar kembali daku .. Ahakss. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian The problem with Ubuntu Muslim was the words Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the trademark and copyright of Canonical. The decision to use Sabily is the best decision. Sabily has its own branding. Bagus bila ada branding sendiri. Ubuntu base on Debian, Sabily base on Ubuntu. Thats the beauty of open sources software dan FiMOS base on Linux dan mungkin besar daripada Ubuntu. (Maaf saya tunggu FiMOS jelaskan, tapi bagi saya itu tidak penting, yang penting daripada CD FiMOS saya leh kaji dan dapatkan maklumat). Tapi ada isu jugak ni. Saya pun dalam isu trademark Ubuntu, nampaknya keras, Kalau dibaca betul2 Ubuntu tak bagi pun dalam banyak perkara sebut, distros yang telah diubah dan tidak serupa Ubuntu dipanggil Ubuntu atau dikatakan daripada Ubuntu. Adoi pening-pening. So bagi saya, jika FiMOS tidak sebut mereka daripada Ubuntu, langkah mereka ada
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2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: interviewer : what software do you know ? interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] I think now you can see that the problem is not the tools but the education system itself. To continue this example, what those schools should teach is not Excel or OpenOffice calc, or Windows vs FiMOS but spreadsheet, word processor or operating system and pick one tools as 'referenced implementation' of these concepts. The same goes to programming language course or we would be forever getting a graduate who only know .NET or Java or even worse ... VB. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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worst, VB6.. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.netwrote: 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: interviewer : what software do you know ? interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] I think now you can see that the problem is not the tools but the education system itself. To continue this example, what those schools should teach is not Excel or OpenOffice calc, or Windows vs FiMOS but spreadsheet, word processor or operating system and pick one tools as 'referenced implementation' of these concepts. The same goes to programming language course or we would be forever getting a graduate who only know .NET or Java or even worse ... VB. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Hell I don't excel, don't even know how to calculate stuff properly or using macro, and I always curse that my vim short cut doesn't work when I use it On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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red1 depa ni masih tak faham kut.. nak cakap macam mana lagi. http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/12/19-percent-of-linux-kernel-development.html kalau nak buat jual pilah kat negeri lain jangan jual kat kami jangan buat orang kita macam hampa jual proton saga kat negeri org pputih murah kat negeri sendiri hampa sauk kaw-kaw punye blahlah azhar try jual kat dublin ke baru gua respect macam abang red1 kita thanks for showing the light boss On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:22:50 +0800, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your comment riZer Enterprise, we don't take any comment lightly. Allow me to humbly disagree with your statement which is bukan malaysia punya rupenyer... :) . To my knowledge, our appointed technology partner is formed by local entrepreneur (usahawan) mostly in ICT fields, is Malaysian by far of the current milestone. We also open our hands to any local entrepreneur to join us and create an ecosystem based on our current business model and see how we can move forward to grow together. So to speak, everyone is invited by far as to my knowledge in terms of being our appointed technology partner. Allow me to suggest, to get current and accurate information from our Facebook page or our official website for any information updates. You can find the list of our appointed technology partner in our Contact Us page (please scroll down a bit for the list) at the official website. Please do correct me, if i'm wrong interpreting your gesture. Thank you, best regards On Mar 10, 5:40 pm, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. bukan malaysia punya rupanyer ... :) 2011/3/10 sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com Personally I think that by not having a public accessible iso image will be a liability, though I might understand the reason why you don't want to release this publicly. Just my 2 cent. Wish you guys luck anyway.. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.comwrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, your comments and suggestion is appreciated and important to us in order to make a better change towards local distro. Unfortunately our distro is not available to download officially. It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. On Mar 10, 10:09 am, Meling Mudin meli...@gmail.com wrote: cekedaut fimos fb .. ada latest stable final release screen shot... Hi, Is there a download link for the ISO? I, for one, would really like to test it. --mel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that move. Saya hendak bertanya kepada semua. Hendak yang mana satu sekarang, selepas banyak projek OS Malaysia berkubur atau dormant, daripada Ketupat Linux (adoi mesti kena alert lagi nanti ni), Embun, KOMNAS (lupa nama projek) dan beberapa lagi. 1) Kita kondem dan kutuk dan mengata sampai thread ni beribu-ribu email tapi satu haram cadangan yang bergerak dan usaha alternatif atau usaha untuk berhubung dan untuk ke depan. Adakah kita mampu untuk jauh ke depan melawan big company yang banyak duit. Jangan hanya berjuang dengan pendapat dan padangan sahaja. Action needed. Jangan jadi pengikut jadilah leaders. Lepas tu bising dengan kerajaan tiada dana tiada peruntukan sedang, apa yang kita buat sekarang hanya menjadikan kita dipandang negatif oleh kerajaan. Setiap langkah mereka yang mahu menggunakan OSS kita lawan dan siasat sehingga ke akar ubi mengalah isteri cumburu suami keluar malam pulak nampaknya. Periksa HP, periksa email dan periksa entah apa lagi. Patutlah banyak syarikat tak mahu nak bantu kita. Kita ni dianggap macam melepas anjing yang tersepit. Sudah diberi sokongan (wang dan hubungan) kena kutuk balik. Pilihan ke dua Kita bantu dan kita tunjukkan jalan. Kita jumpa mereka dan kita bantu apa yang mereka perlu untuk menjadikan ia seperti apa yang kita hendak. Tapi timbul satu lagi soalan, apa sebenarnya kita hendak? sedangkan lesen OSS ni ada berpuluh yang menunjukkan ada pelbagai pendapat tentang pelaksanaan OSS. So fikir-fikirlah Saya mengambil pilihan kedua. Saya telah berhubung dengan FiMOS, berjumpa dengan mereka, malah ada CD FiMOS yang saya akan pasang nanti bila ada kesempatan. Saya akan cuba berikan pandangan dan bantuan mana yang saya mampu dalam memastikan usaha mereka berjaya. Bagi saya jika projek ini pun gagal, baik kita jangan buat OS kita sendiri. Sebab apa FiMOS? Tidak SimpleLinux dan OShirix dan yang lain. Sebab FiMOS telah ambil risiko ke depan yang melibatkan pelaburan modal sendiri dan politik. Dan juga tidak kurang 20 orang kakitangan yang telah berusaha untuk menjayakan projek ini. Besar risiko mereka. Jika kita dalam komuniti tidak bersama membantu siapa lagi? Berani ke kita? atau kita hanya berani menulis dalam email ini dan cakap sahaja Damp, sedih betul saya. Kerajaan dan masyarakat ada pandangan lain tentang bagaimana mereka menilaikan sesebuah projek itu berjaya. Sekali sekala jangan fikir tentang kita sahaja. Kita ni komuniti kecil aje. Tak ramai tapi maaf saya kata, kita ni berlagak Daripada banyak penulisan, maaf saya kata, kita ini selfish. Terlalu pentingkan diri sehingga memandang sebelah mata usaha orang lain. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.commenulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that move. Saya hendak bertanya kepada semua. Hendak yang mana satu sekarang, selepas banyak projek OS Malaysia berkubur atau dormant, daripada Ketupat Linux (adoi mesti kena alert lagi nanti ni), Embun, KOMNAS (lupa nama projek) dan beberapa lagi. 1) Kita kondem dan kutuk dan mengata sampai thread ni beribu-ribu email tapi satu haram cadangan yang bergerak dan usaha alternatif atau usaha untuk berhubung dan untuk ke depan. Adakah kita mampu untuk jauh ke depan melawan big company yang banyak duit. Jangan hanya berjuang dengan pendapat dan padangan sahaja. Action needed. Jangan jadi pengikut jadilah leaders. Lepas tu bising dengan kerajaan tiada dana tiada peruntukan sedang, apa yang kita buat sekarang hanya menjadikan kita dipandang negatif oleh kerajaan. Setiap langkah mereka yang mahu menggunakan OSS kita lawan dan siasat sehingga ke akar ubi mengalah isteri cumburu suami keluar malam pulak nampaknya. Periksa HP, periksa email dan periksa entah apa lagi. Patutlah banyak syarikat tak mahu nak bantu kita. Kita ni dianggap macam melepas anjing yang tersepit. Sudah diberi sokongan (wang dan hubungan) kena kutuk balik. Pilihan ke dua Kita bantu dan kita tunjukkan jalan. Kita jumpa mereka dan kita bantu apa yang mereka perlu untuk menjadikan ia seperti apa yang kita hendak. Tapi timbul satu lagi soalan, apa sebenarnya kita hendak? sedangkan lesen OSS ni ada berpuluh yang menunjukkan ada pelbagai pendapat tentang pelaksanaan OSS. So fikir-fikirlah Saya mengambil pilihan kedua. Saya telah berhubung dengan FiMOS, berjumpa dengan mereka, malah ada CD FiMOS yang saya akan pasang nanti bila ada kesempatan. Saya akan cuba berikan pandangan dan bantuan mana yang saya mampu dalam memastikan usaha mereka berjaya. Bagi saya jika projek ini pun gagal, baik kita jangan buat OS kita sendiri. Sebab apa FiMOS? Tidak SimpleLinux dan OShirix dan yang lain. Sebab FiMOS telah ambil risiko ke depan yang melibatkan pelaburan modal sendiri dan politik. Dan juga tidak kurang 20 orang kakitangan yang telah berusaha untuk menjayakan projek ini. Besar risiko mereka. Jika kita dalam komuniti tidak bersama membantu siapa lagi? Berani ke kita? atau kita hanya berani menulis dalam email ini dan cakap sahaja Damp, sedih betul saya. Kerajaan dan masyarakat ada pandangan lain tentang bagaimana mereka menilaikan sesebuah projek itu berjaya. Sekali sekala jangan fikir tentang kita sahaja. Kita ni komuniti kecil aje. Tak ramai tapi maaf saya kata, kita ni berlagak Daripada banyak penulisan, maaf saya kata, kita ini selfish. Terlalu pentingkan diri sehingga memandang sebelah mata usaha orang lain. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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+1 ngn abg haris... xkshla step tu pendek or panjang.tp at least ade perubahan,tringt ngn quote dari baju time anwar dlu,kalau takut dengan risiko,,usah bicara tentang perjuangan.(lebey kurang la kot..:p) tp bgi sy sndiri,sbgai seorng yg baru nak blajar sal linux nie,nak jugak tgk cd yg based on linux kat pricelist lowyat.bkn ap,nti kalo ade org tnye,at least kite leh ckp ak tau la skit2,kalo ko nak test,ak leh ajar skit2 dan seangkatan dengannyer. lgpn skrng nie tgk dev FiMOS pn da brani nak slowtalk dgn kite,da pndai bagi salam n join ngn kite,so rasenyer tu da menunjukkan perkembangn yg baik.maybe kalo projek nie sukses,dorng nak wat versi ntuk server lak ker,leh gak pnggil kite,jdik team skali.hehehe 2011/3/11 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that move. Saya hendak bertanya kepada semua. Hendak yang mana satu sekarang, selepas banyak projek OS Malaysia berkubur atau dormant, daripada Ketupat Linux (adoi mesti kena alert lagi nanti ni), Embun, KOMNAS (lupa nama projek) dan beberapa lagi. 1) Kita kondem dan kutuk dan mengata sampai thread ni beribu-ribu email tapi satu haram cadangan yang bergerak dan usaha alternatif atau usaha untuk berhubung dan untuk ke depan. Adakah kita mampu untuk jauh ke depan melawan big company yang banyak duit. Jangan hanya berjuang dengan pendapat dan padangan sahaja. Action needed. Jangan jadi pengikut jadilah leaders. Lepas tu bising dengan kerajaan tiada dana tiada peruntukan sedang, apa yang kita buat sekarang hanya menjadikan kita dipandang negatif oleh kerajaan. Setiap langkah mereka yang mahu menggunakan OSS kita lawan dan siasat sehingga ke akar ubi mengalah isteri cumburu suami keluar malam pulak nampaknya. Periksa HP, periksa email dan periksa entah apa lagi. Patutlah banyak syarikat tak mahu nak bantu kita. Kita ni dianggap macam melepas anjing yang tersepit. Sudah diberi sokongan (wang dan hubungan) kena kutuk balik. Pilihan ke dua Kita bantu dan kita tunjukkan jalan. Kita jumpa mereka dan kita bantu apa yang mereka perlu untuk menjadikan ia seperti apa yang kita hendak. Tapi timbul satu lagi soalan, apa sebenarnya kita hendak? sedangkan lesen OSS ni ada berpuluh yang menunjukkan ada pelbagai pendapat tentang pelaksanaan OSS. So fikir-fikirlah Saya mengambil pilihan kedua. Saya telah berhubung dengan FiMOS, berjumpa dengan mereka, malah ada CD FiMOS yang saya akan pasang nanti bila ada kesempatan. Saya akan cuba berikan pandangan dan bantuan mana yang saya mampu dalam memastikan usaha mereka berjaya. Bagi saya jika projek ini pun gagal, baik kita jangan buat OS kita sendiri. Sebab apa FiMOS? Tidak SimpleLinux dan OShirix dan yang lain. Sebab FiMOS telah ambil risiko ke depan yang melibatkan pelaburan modal sendiri dan politik. Dan juga tidak kurang 20 orang kakitangan yang telah berusaha untuk menjayakan projek ini. Besar risiko mereka. Jika kita dalam komuniti tidak bersama membantu siapa lagi? Berani ke kita? atau kita hanya berani menulis dalam email ini dan cakap sahaja Damp, sedih betul saya. Kerajaan dan masyarakat ada pandangan lain tentang bagaimana mereka menilaikan sesebuah projek itu berjaya. Sekali sekala jangan fikir tentang kita sahaja. Kita ni komuniti kecil aje. Tak ramai tapi maaf saya kata, kita ni berlagak Daripada banyak penulisan, maaf saya kata, kita ini selfish. Terlalu pentingkan diri sehingga memandang sebelah mata usaha orang lain. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have commented regardless or you might end up in a hole where you can't see the light anymore. And to note to that how sure are you when you put a statement above when you said open bravo and open core are limited by capacity toward the OSS movement? You better be ready to stand and defend your statement, where if you see and read in the mailing list a statement and explaination was clearly spoken upon. rafe On Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.commenulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that mo... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have commented regardless or you might end up in a hole where you can't see the light anymore. And to note to that how sure are you when you put a statement above when you said open bravo and open core are limited by capacity toward the OSS movement? You better be ready to stand and defend your statement, where if you see and read in the mailing list a statement and explaination was clearly spoken upon. rafe On Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com menulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that mo... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have commented regardless or you might end up in a hole where you can't see the light anymore. And to note to that how sure are you when you put a statement above when you said open bravo and open core are limited by capacity toward the OSS movement? You better be ready to stand and defend your statement, where if you see and read in the mailing list a statement and explaination was clearly spoken upon. rafe On Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com menulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that mo... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
are you coming for the first malaysian distro workshop? hope to see you all there and why not next time distro workshop in penang hehe... enjoy azhar 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com dude. if you want to do know the way of the community, let it be open and known. lets get everyone involve and everyone to solve. no point of dragging it longer and longer... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: the best kita face to face 26.3 ok? have a good night 2011/3/12 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com bro, you are saying as if we have no brain and we can't think which is right and which is not... what to believed and what to not. what your actual problem with FIMOS? let us know maybe some of us here know more stories than you do.. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: orait orait katalah korang boleh accept ini. don't you think that you akan dijual seluruhnya. sanggupkah korang menggadaikan the only thing that we got untuk this crap. maksudnya korang sanggup lah beli proton saga walaupun korang kena tipu harga kat luar jauh lebih murah dari malaysia topeng macam2 ada babe. topeng muka baik lagi belambak. topeng nak pekena orang pun tak terkecuali. takpelah kalau korang puas hati dia ni bermaksud baik kepada komuniti dan korang confirm yang dia ni takkan menjual korang seluruhnya ok. kita tengok sapa pakai topeng nanti. azhar 2011/3/11 rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com Dude, bila orang berbudi kita berbahasa. Community is not an individual but a group of people who share the same interest and passion toward completing a single or multiple objective. You can't change the world overnight. It take times and it takes effort to built and to succed. By not taking the +ve side of thing you are already a -ve person and your whole view are turn only to one side which limit the freedom of choice itself. One must be knowledgeable in what one have commented regardless or you might end up in a hole where you can't see the light anymore. And to note to that how sure are you when you put a statement above when you said open bravo and open core are limited by capacity toward the OSS movement? You better be ready to stand and defend your statement, where if you see and read in the mailing list a statement and explaination was clearly spoken upon. rafe On Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: anggaplah ini satu komen yang membina bukan nak condemned. condemntu kalau sakit hati sikit sikit tak pa sekurang kurangnya kita akan beringat http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/who-owns-linux/17 kalau kau taknak bantu komuniti jadi kau bukan lah geng open sos kau leh kuar ke open bravo or open core or whateva you are not in. go sell your stuff somewhere else. we community are the one who own it. ingat linux ni kita punya kalau kau nak manipulate orang silakan tapi you r not open source ok? azhar Pada 11 Mac 2011 9:05 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com menulis: Kita perlu bermula. Sama ada kita suka atau tidak dengan cara mereka, we have to make that mo... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. bukan malaysia punya rupanyer ... :) 2011/3/10 sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com Personally I think that by not having a public accessible iso image will be a liability, though I might understand the reason why you don't want to release this publicly. Just my 2 cent. Wish you guys luck anyway.. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.comwrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, your comments and suggestion is appreciated and important to us in order to make a better change towards local distro. Unfortunately our distro is not available to download officially. It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. On Mar 10, 10:09 am, Meling Mudin meli...@gmail.com wrote: cekedaut fimos fb .. ada latest stable final release screen shot... Hi, Is there a download link for the ISO? I, for one, would really like to test it. --mel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
actually i think of Makcik PC if they rebrand it with another name, just that wat My1OS did, the Makcikc PC will be able to success. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Of course calling it the makcik PC might have something to do with people not wanting to buy it... except maybe as a joke //ha...@qedx.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: don't forget makcik pc is originally running on windows XP(when I last heard, I could really be wrong). Which already not the same. Don't forget people only to take tablet seriously when apple shows that you need a different OS for a tablet for a different type of implementation, you can't just put a desktop OS add drivers to the hardware and make it a tablet PC, microsoft tried that, and it failed long time ago. Of course different OS is again one of many component. But it is one of the big one. But another reason of failure is, malaysian never seen support product from own countryman, never know why, never understood why. of course that is another story altogether. Also i got a feeling makcik pc hardware spec might even be obsolete, even for running linux. got a feeling that cheaper hardware is available for a cheaper cost On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: what we do need is people that make other people convincing..like what steve jobs do On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: bayangkan.. kalau makcik pc release tahun 2007 even before ipad / android tablet / ubuntu netbook this is what happens when there are too many armchair critics, and not enough supporters who are bold enough to make the leap 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com rase mybe lam development lg kot.yg nmpk menjadik mcm produk netbook 1malaysia.tp dsbbkan malaysia dah ade OS sndiri,cube krajaan combine netbook 1malaysia ngn FiMOS.msti menarik.2-2 produk malaysia.;) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha..lupe sih.ala..google jer makcik pc.mcm2 kuar.tp last news tahun 2009 kot.lame gak tu.tp rase ntuk netbook 1 malaysia same la mcm iDola.adik beradik makcik pc kerajaan tolak produk malaysiakah? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen. * pada 2 Dec 2007 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu
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That would be a probable case of its unavailability. Everyone thought it was a joke. On 03/10/2011 07:41 AM, Haris bin Ali wrote: Of course calling it the makcik PC might have something to do with people not wanting to buy it... except maybe as a joke //ha...@qedx.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Personally I think that by not having a public accessible iso image will be a liability, though I might understand the reason why you don't want to release this publicly. Just my 2 cent. Wish you guys luck anyway.. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.comwrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, your comments and suggestion is appreciated and important to us in order to make a better change towards local distro. Unfortunately our distro is not available to download officially. It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. On Mar 10, 10:09 am, Meling Mudin meli...@gmail.com wrote: cekedaut fimos fb .. ada latest stable final release screen shot... Hi, Is there a download link for the ISO? I, for one, would really like to test it. --mel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear sir and please do join us at our Facebook page and our official FiMOS page at www.fimos.my for further news and information. On Mar 8, 3:09 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: what has lisasurihani got to do with fimos ? at first i thought it was an advert, but no - it is an actual block. intriguing ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear sir and please do join us at our Facebook page and our official FiMOS page atwww.fimos.myfor further news and information. On Mar 8, 3:09 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: what has lisasurihani got to do with fimos ? at first i thought it was an advert, but no - it is an actual block. intriguing ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification
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Wise words bro. Thanks. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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Assalammualaikum cekedaut fimos fb .. ada latest stable final release screen shot... On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear sir and please do join us at our Facebook page and our official FiMOS page at www.fimos.my for further news and information. On Mar 8, 3:09 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: what has lisasurihani got to do with fimos ? at first i thought it was an advert, but no - it is an actual block. intriguing ... On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: 1Malaysia, 1 OS - FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian. Lets we wait for the announcement. Bagi saya its a positive move. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fimos.my/ 2011/3/8 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com sudah tukar ka? My1OS FiMOS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
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terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear sir and please do join us at our Facebook page and our official FiMOS page atwww.fimos.myfor further news and information. On Mar 8, 3:09 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: what has lisasurihani got to do with fimos ? at
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I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear sir and please do join us at our Facebook page and our official FiMOS page atwww.fimos.myfor further
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device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.commenulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we are in support of her since we are handling her official website too. Thank you again for your concern dear
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, yes sir, we did the re-branding of our distro which is formerly known as my1os to FiMOS and as of now, we are officially known as FiMOS. As per Ms. Lisa Surihani appear on that page is simply to show that we
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar daripada kita untuk membolehkan mereka bergerak dalam OSS. Tak jauh mana pun kita. Masih 1Malaysia :) Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel OSDC.my On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:40 AM,
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu. Rakan-rakan kita dalam FiMOS bersikap terbuka dengan kita, so kita juga perlu bersikap terbuka dengan mereka. Untuk Distros Workshop 26 March ini nanti, kita bincang bersama apa kita sebagai komuniti boleh sumbangkan dan apa yang mereka boleh belajar
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara perlu baru perlu dipelajari. OSS adalah satu dunia yang berlainan ... Kita perlu bagi masa dan peluang untuk orang lain yang mahu bersama untuk mencuba, jatuh bangun kita bantu dan kita tekad memberikan jalan. Saya dah tengok banyak OS daripada kita hilang dalam angin. So untuk kali yang ini, kita cari jalan bagaimana kita boleh membantu dan saling membantu.
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ *http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen.* ** pada 2 Dec 2007* 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan pelbagai. Banyak perkara perlu dibuat dalam satu jangka masa yang pendek. Banyak perkara
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ *http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen.* ** pada 2 Dec 2007* 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita perlu sedar FiMOS bukan sahaja projek pembangunan. Ia adalah satu usaha dan projek melibatkan 20 orang dan pelaburan modal bukan sahaja untuk pembangunan malah marketing, sale, support, helpdesk dan
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
hahaha..lupe sih.ala..google jer makcik pc.mcm2 kuar.tp last news tahun 2009 kot.lame gak tu.tp rase ntuk netbook 1 malaysia same la mcm iDola.adik beradik makcik pc On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen. * pada 2 Dec 2007 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team telah secara terbuka berjumpa dengan banyak pihak, termasuk saya dan beberapa lagi rakan-rakan komuniti. Mereka telah menerima baik pandangan kita. Malah rakan-rakan OSS dalam agensi-agensi turut memberikan pandangan dalam pelbagai perkara. Tapi kita
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote: hahaha..lupe sih.ala..google jer makcik pc.mcm2 kuar.tp last news tahun 2009 kot.lame gak tu.tp rase ntuk netbook 1 malaysia same la mcm iDola.adik beradik makcik pc kerajaan tolak produk malaysiakah? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen. * pada 2 Dec 2007 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita kata, tapi mereka ada peneraju yang berjiwa belia mahu cepat ke depan :) ... Berlari dah ni. So kita ambil sikap terbuka. Sebagi komuniti OSS yang sudah lama, sudah matang dan punya pandangan luas, we have to e open up. Kita perlu bantu mereka dan pandu mereka. Instrak dan FiMOS (My1OS) team
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rase mybe lam development lg kot.yg nmpk menjadik mcm produk netbook 1malaysia.tp dsbbkan malaysia dah ade OS sndiri,cube krajaan combine netbook 1malaysia ngn FiMOS.msti menarik.2-2 produk malaysia.;) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha..lupe sih.ala..google jer makcik pc.mcm2 kuar.tp last news tahun 2009 kot.lame gak tu.tp rase ntuk netbook 1 malaysia same la mcm iDola.adik beradik makcik pc kerajaan tolak produk malaysiakah? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen. * pada 2 Dec 2007 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah pandangan peribadi. By launching FiMOS, we are opening a Pandora box. Macam-macam akan timbul. Saya rasa ada antara kita akan rasa tidak puas hati, rasa tak betul, rasa mcm nak komen, kurang setuju dan semua negatiflah. Termasuklah saya pada masa dahulu.. Tapi, itukan tabiat lama. Tabiat yang kita selalu buat untuk bancuh dan basuh team lain Apa kata kali ini kita bersikap sebagai tuan rumah yang menerima tetamu baru. Yang masih baru dalam dunia OSS. Rakan baru kita ini adalah newbies dengan OSS, masih merangkak kita
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Dari manual fimos A. FiMOS is made up of individual software components that were created by various individuals and entities (͞Software Programmes͟). You may install FiMOS on unlimited home computers of his or hers for non-commercial use and one commercial use computer. When FiMOS is used with virtualization or emulation technology, each virtual or emulated environment shall be considered a computer effectively limiting an end user to one instance of the software running on a single physical computer for commercial use. Is it mean we can distribute to other mmber if one of us buy it? 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com: rase mybe lam development lg kot.yg nmpk menjadik mcm produk netbook 1malaysia.tp dsbbkan malaysia dah ade OS sndiri,cube krajaan combine netbook 1malaysia ngn FiMOS.msti menarik.2-2 produk malaysia.;) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha..lupe sih.ala..google jer makcik pc.mcm2 kuar.tp last news tahun 2009 kot.lame gak tu.tp rase ntuk netbook 1 malaysia same la mcm iDola.adik beradik makcik pc kerajaan tolak produk malaysiakah? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: xblh buka.. nk tgk jgk Pada 9 Mac 2011 12:12 PM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com menulis: http://www.wirespot.net/2007/12/02/makcik-introduced-by-mimos-in-malaysia/ MakCik PC will be priced between RM500-RM1100 and will be available in certain models with different specs. It does not come with keyboard, and has a 16inch of wide screen. * pada 2 Dec 2007 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com ingat lagi masa kat UPSI? kan mimos ade buat showcase 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com hahah.ye kot.ak pn xigt.tp kalo xslp,die penah kuar kat majalah pc dlu.kalo xslp mimos yg wat. 2011/3/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: 2011/3/9 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com lame xdgr makcik pc.rase da jdik nenek kot.huhuhu dah ramai dah cucu cicit dia..sebab seingat aku makcik pc keluar masa zaman P4 HT 2.4Ghz, plus aku tingkatan 2 kalau tak silap 2011/3/9 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: device apa tu? Pada 9 Mac 2011 9:27 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: I still do hope to see MakCik PC with Ubuntu Remix..ada siapa-siapa boleh dapatkan device tu tak? :p 2011/3/9 Khalid Mohd ichinee...@gmail.com terima kasih kepada rakan di osdc.my kerana sokongan yang diberikan. sila beri tunjuk ajar. kami di FiMOS akan sentiasa mengambil positif setiap teguran dan kritikan dalam menambahbaik FiMOS. diharap rakan2 sudi memberi tunjuk ajar. 2011/3/9 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com thank you for the clarification best wishes on your bold initiative. there will be many challenges, therefore many opportunities to learn. and plenty of opportunities to collaborate, esp on malay / chinese / tamil localisation - and the many more more languages and dialects, then we would truly have a my1os : 1 os for all malaysians. back in 2004 drb-hicom it released its' own distro using an icon based desktop interface. a unique approach for a computer. but now, we have the ipad, the android tablet, the 'controversial' ubuntu unity a few years back, mimos also released the makcik pc, which used icons for the desktop interface on a tablet, unfortunately, it did not go to market (maybe too many critical comments). having said that i have been using the ubuntu netbook for more than 1 year now, and i love the icon interface desktop. therefore, these type of evolution is good. the first may not be good, the second may be a disaster, but hopefully the third will be a leader. have lots of patience and pay close attention to your customers. best wishes and good luck. 2011/3/9 [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.com W,salam w.b.t, Terima kasih tuan Haris dan kepada semua rakan sekelian. Kami berharap kehadiran kami tidak membebankan mana mana pihak dan insyallah kami sedaya upaya untuk memastikan yang terbaik pada semua pihak. Segala tunjuk ajar dan komentar amatlah dihargai dan diucapkan setinggi terima kasih. On Mar 9, 2:34 am, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Buat rakan-rakan di FiMOS First at all tahniah Saya tak kesempatan lagi hendak mencuba. Memang ada hajat hendak format NB di rumah yang semakin slow. First of all tulisan saya adalah
