RE: Pentax AF viewfinders

2001-10-29 Thread Erik Nordin

So, 92% (or whatever) finders are convenient for the automatic people.
Pentax market their flagship stuff as being aimed at the conscious
photographers - being able to determine the image content of the negative in
the finder should be an obvious feature.

-Original Message-
From: lbparis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 27 oktober 2001 17:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax AF viewfinders


Believe it or not, 100% viewfinders used to take a certain
amount of criticism too, years ago.  Mainly from people that
used the full frame to compose their pictures and then found
that they couldn't print them on 8 X 10 paper without cropping.

Len
---

- Original Message -
From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax AF viewfinders


 Erik wrote:

  One of the things I've noticed with the modern AF cameras is
the overall
  degeneration of the viewfinders compared to mechanical
cameras. The image is
  smaller, less bright, and they never cover the entire image
area (neither
  does the MX, but it shows more than the MZ cameras). At
least not the Pentax
  ones. Why is it so difficult to put a decent viewfinder on
the newer models?
  I've compared of course the LX, but also MX, with the MZ-3
and MZ-S and the
  difference is apparent. I just don't get it.


 Erik,
 You ought to search the archives for some of my rantings and
ravings on this
 subject. It's a real weakness of cameras IMHO, modern AF
cameras especially,
 and not just Pentaxes.

 --Mike
 www.37thframe.com
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Re: Hamrick Vuescan WOW!

2001-10-29 Thread kleickly

I downloaded Vuescan thinking that I would purchase it after a short trial.  
However, it would not recognize my scanner, a HP Scanjet 5470c on a USB.  I 
have just upgraded my system to Windows XP and tried to follow the 
instructions on the Vuescan site, but nothing worked.  I could not figure out 
how to contact Vuescan via email to find out if I am doing something wrong or 
whether it just won't work with my scanner and/or Windows XP.  Does anyone 
have the same problem or have any suggestions?
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Digital Photo's endanger the past...

2001-10-29 Thread Rob Brigham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_162/1620067.stm
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Re: Leica and Shel and Mamiya

2001-10-29 Thread LEDMRVM

In a message dated 10/29/2001 3:04:48 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Speaking of things Mamiya, I bought a Mamiya U at a garage sale on the 
 weekend.
  It's a small compact rangefinder with fixed 35/2.8 Sekor lens. Focus is 
via 
 4
  settings which progressively move the lens assembly away from the body, 
with
  steps at 1 metre, 1.5 metres, 3 metres and infinity. Built in flash and 
self
  timer. All metal construction, feels like quality build. The shutter button
  assembly is a little broken, but still operable. Has anyone on the list 
used 
 or
  even owned one before?? I took it to one of the better camera shops in 
 Adelaide
  this morning, and they hadn't seen one before. I assume it must be at 
least 
 10
  years old.

According to McKeown's Guide the Mamiya U was introduced in 1983.

Regards,
Ed M.
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ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread John A. Hufnagel

Well... I finally lost my *^#@ eyecup from my ZX-5n, at a camera store
(a lousy one at that... I'll go there later.)  Can someone point me to a
source of replacements that don't cost a kings ransom?  I'll probably
wind up getting 2 or 3, just in case.  Thanks.

soap box Now my camera store rant.  You would have thought that a
camera store would want to attract your business... But not in this case
it seems.  My nomination of Worst Store Of The Week goes to Beach Camera
of Maine in Greenbrook, NJ.  I went in there with my camera, which I
bought from them, to gather some more data on this lens compatibility
problem I'm having.  I've never met a more rude or discourteous persons
with regards to customers in general... Not to mention he put my FA50mm
f/1.4 in his cabinet by mistake and almost didn't want to return it to
me!  I wanted to try and give the my business as they have a decent
selection of used glass there and are local (support the local guys),
but I'll NEVER go back there again.  Someone forgot what customer
service is all about over there. /soap box

-- John
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Re: re: approaching animals

2001-10-29 Thread David Brooks

I find if i try to get close to the horses i 
photograph,they want to come over for a visit.Then
i talk to them a bit ,move into position and as Emeril
says...Bamm

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:27:14 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: re: approaching animals


Ken,

    I agree totally about avoiding eye contact totally when 
approaching 
animals (in my case birds, mammals and reptiles - I'm not sure that 
insects 
or spiders care if you're looking at them).  However, I've noticed 
that if I 
get close to a bird and then start photographing it, and then I look 
away, 
then they sometimes seem to take this as an opportunity to make their 
escape!

    So it seems to me that once I've got close to an animal and 
started 
looking at it(and pointing a lens, which looks like a big eye, at 
something 
must be tantamount to looking at it), then I might need to keep 
looking at 
it in order to pin it down and prevent it from moving.

    I know that the principle I've outlined isn't true in all cases, 
but has 
anyone experienced the same thing?

Richard.

home phone: (1)(847) 244 5463
home page:  www.richard-seaman.com

--- original message, with snips ---

All animals, including humans, create a bubble of comfort around
themselves.  If you invade that bubble, an animal will resort to 
either
flight or fight.  I found, however, that if I did not make eye contact
with an animal and if I acted as if I was going to walk by them, I
could get inside that bubble of comfort and stay there as long as I
made no threatening motion.

It works with all animals, wild, domestic or human.



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so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Sandmann, Silke

Hiya there,

let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced regarding
Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera. 
I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came out
great, too. Though there was someone during the first days
who helped me with the settings. 
Last Saturday I visited an international camera-exchange-market here in
Cologne, looking for objectives and equipment. Well - that was
a very good try... but unfortunatly not very succesful.
The first one tried to sell a 28:80 objectiv, the next one somethin 135 mm
and so on..
I got totally confused and went home eventually with a camera-brace. Don't
laugh! It is sad enough and I am still smiling about
my failure. It is so much fun anyway. I honestly discovered a wonderful
hobby.
I bought a book with advises and instructions regarding diaphragm,
illumination and so on but I can't find anything about 
the right objectives. I am not sure yet if I am going to keep the K 2 or
if I am going to by the MZ 5 N but I would like to get
the objectives already, at least the knowledge, which ones I should get
first. 
Is it right, that the 28:70 is adviseable? What about the telephoto lens?
I am grateful for any advises of you experienced Pentax user. I mean,
everybody has started ..

Any coments are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Kind regards and sorry for so much text (but it is worth reading it
anyway:)).

Silke
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Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article

2001-10-29 Thread Norman Baugher

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_162/1620067.stm
Norm
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Re: Leica and Shel and Mamiya

2001-10-29 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

 darryn wrote:
 
 Speaking of things Mamiya, I got a Mamiya U at a garage sale on the weekend.
 It's a small compact rangefinder with fixed 35/2.8 Sekor lens. Focus is via 4
 settings which progressively move the lens assembly away from the body, with
 steps at 1 metre, 1.5 metres, 3 metres and infinity. Built in flash and self
 timer. All metal construction, feels like quality build. The shutter button
 assembly is a little broken, but still operable. Has anyone on the list used  or 
even owned one before?? 

Me    I also have one.  Great little unit - and I do mean tiny!
Cost me US$6 at a junk store and takes very sharp photos, too.
Mine also has a bit of a mangled up shutter button, but works just
fine. It's my Stealth Camera   :^)

-
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http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
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Re: Re[2]: Pentax AF viewfinders

2001-10-29 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Sunday, October 28, 2001, at 02:22  PM, Bob Walkden wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't know if this is the sort of thing you're able to dial in, but
 at the pro lab I generally use they offer, on their c-41 machine
 printing service, a set of choices which includes full frame with a
 bit of the black border showing. This is what I always choose for
 proofs so I can see exactly what's lurking on the edge of the frame.

The guys we send out to are not equipped to do it (though they have a 
Frontier, which is capable of printing full-frame), and even if they had 
set themselves up for that, they'd probably get complaints from people 
who ordered their prints that way (that the edges were uneven or the 
like), so I doubt they'd do it.  Much of their customer base is 
consumer-level.

Were we running our own minilab, I'd certainly want to offer that 
option, but we're not.  I spent the quarter million bucks one of those 
monsters would have cost on multiple 4x5 enlargers, paper processors, 
Jobos, dryers, and a kick-ass digital setup, as well as a reasonably 
deep film, paper and chemistry stock. :)

-Aaron
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Re: I need a new printer

2001-10-29 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Sunday, October 28, 2001, at 03:56  PM, Cameron R. Hood wrote:

 Get a second job to support your ink habit.


Last time I checked, we were consuming around $400 a month in ink at the 
store.

OW!

-Aaron
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RE: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Erik Nordin

Hi Silke, and welcome to the list! The FA 28-70/4 is a very good allround
zoom lens, although the manual focussing feel is pretty bad. If you plan to
get a AF body eventually (and the MZ-5N is a great one) that lens is a very
good alternative.

For other lenses, most K-mount SMC Pentax lenses are very good (of course,
the better the more they cost). I strongly advice you to get a good basic
prime lens to the K2 (since you already shot some pictures you must have one
already - which one?). A normal lens, like a 50/1.7 or 1.4 is a great start.
Regarding telelenses, a cheap and very good lens is the SMC-M 135/3.5.

More information can be found on the following web sites:

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ (general information on K-mount Pentax
equipment)
http://home.att.net/~alnem/ (contains reviews of various Pentax lenses)
http://www.concentric.net/~smhalpin/ (another Pentax lens review page)
http://www.photographyreview.com (reviews of all kinds of equipment of all
brands)

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask any question to the list.

best regards, Erik (still somewhat of a Pentax beginner myself, although 15
years of photo experience)

-Original Message-
From: Sandmann, Silke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 29 oktober 2001 13:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: so many questions


Hiya there,

let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced regarding
Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera. 
I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came out
great, too. Though there was someone during the first days
who helped me with the settings. 
Last Saturday I visited an international camera-exchange-market here in
Cologne, looking for objectives and equipment. Well - that was
a very good try... but unfortunatly not very succesful.
The first one tried to sell a 28:80 objectiv, the next one somethin 135 mm
and so on..
I got totally confused and went home eventually with a camera-brace. Don't
laugh! It is sad enough and I am still smiling about
my failure. It is so much fun anyway. I honestly discovered a wonderful
hobby.
I bought a book with advises and instructions regarding diaphragm,
illumination and so on but I can't find anything about 
the right objectives. I am not sure yet if I am going to keep the K 2 or
if I am going to by the MZ 5 N but I would like to get
the objectives already, at least the knowledge, which ones I should get
first. 
Is it right, that the 28:70 is adviseable? What about the telephoto lens?
I am grateful for any advises of you experienced Pentax user. I mean,
everybody has started ..

Any coments are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Kind regards and sorry for so much text (but it is worth reading it
anyway:)).

Silke
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Re: October PUG Kudos

2001-10-29 Thread Steve Larson

OK, maybe 3 weeks is necessary, then maybe a Hi Bill with the
window rolled down as we go by ;)   My dad took
the family on a trip like that (minus Mt. Rushmore) in 2 weeks, I 
was only 10 years old, but it is a great memory. It was in 1967
which was Canada`s centennial, that`s how I always remember.
 Rainwater in a tent really sucks, I learned where not to pitch
a tent the hard way too, never happened again though.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: October PUG Kudos


 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: October PUG Kudos
 
 
  Hi Bill, Thanks for the info on Jenny Lake. We are a lodge and
 motel
  kind of family now, as the wife had a bad camping experience
 once.
One of these years I want to do L.A. to the Grand Tetons,
 Yellowstone,
  Mount Rushmore, Lake Louise, Vancouver, Crater Lake, Big Sur,
 and
  back home in two weeks. I think Regina is on the way, maybe
 the
  Larson family will pop in to say Hi to the Robb`s.
 
 A friend of ours swore off camping after a bad experience.
 Apparently, they thought pitching their tent in a really lush
 little hollow was a good idea. When it started raining and their
 tent filled up with water, the discovered the disadvantage of
 low ground.
 If you are planning your trip without a Star Trek style
 transporter, you will truly have little more time than to wave
 at my house as you go by..
 If we are home, we will try to wave back.
 
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
  - Original Message -
  From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:41 PM
  Subject: Re: October PUG Kudos
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve Larson 
   Subject: Re: October PUG Kudos
  
  
Hi Tom, thanks for taking time to comment, and the nice
 words.
 I like your shot this month very much, especially the
   rainbow,
pretty lucky to have that geyser go off when you were
 there.
   I`ve
got take my wife and daughter to Yellowstone.
 Maybe Paul Stenquist will tell us exactly what his shot
 was
   of, I`ve
been dying to know myself.
  
   Yellowstone is nice, but I would stay elsewhere. Jenny Lake
 in
   the Tetons used to be a very nice place to camp (tents
 only),
   but I don't know if it still is, and there are some nice
   forestry service campgrounds just outside the west entrance,
   which I think are actually in Idaho. Sometimes the bears are
   uppity and the officials insist that all accomodations have
 hard
   sides, especially on the Idaho end.
  
   William Robb
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How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I was just taking some shots of my daughter with my A3000.  I hadn't used it
much since I got my MZ-5N and I was struck by how much cooler it sounds than
the newer camera.  There's a definite KA-chunk with the A3000 followed by
the winder.  The winder sounds like it's working a bit to advance the film.
  On the MZ 5N, it's much more sterile.  The mirror/shudder noise is
relatively non-existent and the winder sounds less interesting.  Sounds a
lot more like my Kodak advantix PS than the sound in my head that
represents expensive(good?) cameras.  (Think early 80's pop song by the J.
Giles Band Freeze Frame)
  I don't have a lot of experience with SLR cameras.  The two I have are the
only ones I've messed with for any length of time.  I guess I'll have to buy
a bunch of cameras to evaluate the noises they make so I can report to the
list...:)

Cory Waters
Thinking my wife won't buy that particular reasoning and will counter any
enableing that might flow from other list members. :(
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Re: A delightful afternoon

2001-10-29 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Jaun, glad you had a great time, I have to agree with you about Shel
and his abilities WRT people photography, he is the best I`ve seen.
Looking forward to seeing the pics.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

Juan J. Buhler wrote:



 Just came back from San Francisco, where I met and spent the afternoon
with
 Shel. We talked quite a bit about the list, about having too many cameras,
 etc. I think he changed his mind about the MX when he tried the advance
lever
 on mine.

 We then went out shooting in the street. Shooting alongside Shel was an
 eye-opening experience. He knows how to engage his subjects, he's not shy
at
 all, and people seem happy about him taking their picture. One woman even
 walked into his frame and posed for him. I shot quite a bit too, I just
hope
 I can get in that mood the next time I go out.

 We were mostly shooting with Leicas though, he an M3 and M2 and me my M6.
 Still, I shot almost a roll with the MX and K24/3.5. To Shel's credit, he
was
 using the 43 Limited's hood and cap on a Summicron :-)

 I'll try and post some pictures from the day when I get them developed and
 scanned.

 Just wanted to share the great day,

 j
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AW: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Sandmann, Silke

Hi Erik, 
As you see, I am not hesitating. 15 years of photo experiences should give
you a competitive edge! *smile*
Thank you very much for your prompt reply. It feels good to be welcome, also
as a beginner. 
The camera has got a 55 mm, a basic lens. At least one of the people at 
the market told me so. 
I am going to check out the links you have sent me. Thank you very much, by
the way.  
How much should a lens cost, for example the 28-70 and the 135/3.5?
Because I am also attending the ebay auctions it would be a great help to
get a clue at what
time I should stop or bid more. 

Thanks.
Silke
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von:  Erik Nordin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet am:  Montag, 29. Oktober 2001 15:02
 An:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff:  RE: so many questions
 
 Hi Silke, and welcome to the list! The FA 28-70/4 is a very good allround
 zoom lens, although the manual focussing feel is pretty bad. If you plan
 to
 get a AF body eventually (and the MZ-5N is a great one) that lens is a
 very
 good alternative.
 
 For other lenses, most K-mount SMC Pentax lenses are very good (of course,
 the better the more they cost). I strongly advice you to get a good basic
 prime lens to the K2 (since you already shot some pictures you must have
 one
 already - which one?). A normal lens, like a 50/1.7 or 1.4 is a great
 start.
 Regarding telelenses, a cheap and very good lens is the SMC-M 135/3.5.
 
 More information can be found on the following web sites:
 
 http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ (general information on K-mount Pentax
 equipment)
 http://home.att.net/~alnem/ (contains reviews of various Pentax lenses)
 http://www.concentric.net/~smhalpin/ (another Pentax lens review page)
 http://www.photographyreview.com (reviews of all kinds of equipment of all
 brands)
 
 Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask any question to the list.
 
 best regards, Erik (still somewhat of a Pentax beginner myself, although
 15
 years of photo experience)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandmann, Silke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: den 29 oktober 2001 13:43
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: so many questions
 
 
 Hiya there,
 
 let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced regarding
 Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
 For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera. 
 I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came out
 great, too. Though there was someone during the first days
 who helped me with the settings. 
 Last Saturday I visited an international camera-exchange-market here in
 Cologne, looking for objectives and equipment. Well - that was
 a very good try... but unfortunatly not very succesful.
 The first one tried to sell a 28:80 objectiv, the next one somethin 135 mm
 and so on..
 I got totally confused and went home eventually with a camera-brace. Don't
 laugh! It is sad enough and I am still smiling about
 my failure. It is so much fun anyway. I honestly discovered a wonderful
 hobby.
 I bought a book with advises and instructions regarding diaphragm,
 illumination and so on but I can't find anything about 
 the right objectives. I am not sure yet if I am going to keep the K 2 or
 if I am going to by the MZ 5 N but I would like to get
 the objectives already, at least the knowledge, which ones I should get
 first. 
 Is it right, that the 28:70 is adviseable? What about the telephoto lens?
 I am grateful for any advises of you experienced Pentax user. I mean,
 everybody has started ..
 
 Any coments are appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 Kind regards and sorry for so much text (but it is worth reading it
 anyway:)).
 
 Silke
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RE: Z1-p (PZ1-p) Flash Trigger Voltage.

2001-10-29 Thread HUDERER Bernd

Hi,
the voltage of the flash capacitor in the old Metz 45CT1 is maximum 350-360
Volts. The sync. voltage can't be higher than that as it is derived from the
capacitors voltage. This is true for most of the older flashes.
The newer version 45CL1 ( L like Low sync voltage; there's an additional
thyristor used for triggering ) has a voltage of about 10 Volts.

regards
Bernd H.


Frits J. Wüthrich wrote:

 Check the age of your 45CT1. I have an old one, from 1977, 
 and I found a
 voltage of 600V. Later models of the 45CT1 have lower 
 voltages, as Metz
 changed the design. Personally I wouldn't want to expose my 
 PZ-1 to 600V. I
 use to use it for my MX's, and now only for my C-220, or with a slave.
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Re: How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Steele

Hi Cory,
Just tell her that you're seeking to become a better
listener  If that doesn't workwellat
least I'm not spending time with another woman.. 
Good luck! Regards, Mike Steele

--- Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I was just taking some shots of my daughter with my
 A3000.  I hadn't used it
 much since I got my MZ-5N and I was struck by how
 much cooler it sounds than
 the newer camera.  There's a definite KA-chunk with
 the A3000 followed by
 the winder.  The winder sounds like it's working a
 bit to advance the film.
   On the MZ 5N, it's much more sterile.  The
 mirror/shudder noise is
 relatively non-existent and the winder sounds less
 interesting.  Sounds a
 lot more like my Kodak advantix PS than the sound
 in my head that
 represents expensive(good?) cameras.  (Think early
 80's pop song by the J.
 Giles Band Freeze Frame)
   I don't have a lot of experience with SLR cameras.
  The two I have are the
 only ones I've messed with for any length of time. 
 I guess I'll have to buy
 a bunch of cameras to evaluate the noises they make
 so I can report to the
 list...:)
 
 Cory Waters
 Thinking my wife won't buy that particular reasoning
 and will counter any
 enableing that might flow from other list members.
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Re: insect macro photos

2001-10-29 Thread tom

Richard Seaman wrote:
 
 Christian, Patrick,
 
 OK, guys, if I show you mine will you show me yours?
 
 http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Nature/index.html#insects
 
 I'd love to see macro photos from you guys and any other PDMLers!  How about
 returning a URL and letting us all have a look!

I have taken exactly one insect macro in my life:

http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/spider_02090101_9.html

I think I did this with the FA 50/2.8 and the whole extension tube
set...I think the film was APX 25.

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Re: A follow-up from months ago...

2001-10-29 Thread tom

Jim Moniz wrote:
 
 Several months ago, I announced that I was going to be doing my very first
 paid shoot (head shots of a ballet class), and told you all about what I would
 be using.  The feedback I got from you was invaluable.  I took the advice of
 several of you (use something other than just a flash)  and purchased some
 simple studio lighting (a two-light setup from Smith-Victor, about $150) and,
 armed with your advice and that of my NYI instructors,went to town.  I used
 my Super Program, a Pentax 135mm/f2.8 lens and Portra 400BW film.   Got the
 prints back yesterday, and am frankly astounded...I may actually have a future
 in this!
 

Congratulations, I hope you post a few...

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RE: Flocking material

2001-10-29 Thread Mick Maguire

some used sawdust, but you could also get flock, way back when...

Regards,
/\/\ick... 

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In a message dated 28/10/01 02:38:37 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 M. le Cott wrote:
 
  Just a thought, but what about that stuff model railway buffs use for
  grass texture, perhaps painted black??
  
I believe it was sawdust, or some such. Way back when.

KR

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RE: insect macro photos

2001-10-29 Thread Skofteland, Christian

Thanks Richard.  I did notice a lot of caterpillar photos on your site!

The Io caterpillars were everywhere in that tree and it was impossible to
get a good head shot of one of them while they were feeding.  In the end, I
filled the frame with color and spines and feet!  I think the Velveta(sic)
did it's usually incredible job of color saturation and depth.  

When I have time (and a lot more money (more on that later) I'm going to
build a multiple flash bracket for better shadow control and background
rendition.

I get a lot of comments about the mossie pictures from my co-workers.  I
learned a lot about camera control and stability by shooting those one
handed.  All I can say is the Grip B on the LX made it possible!

I'd be interested in learning your techniques with regards to macros.  What
kind of flash, lenses, magnification rates, etc.

Thanks again.

Christian Skofteland


 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Seaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Christian,
 
 Very nice photos!  I especially like the Io Moth caterpillar, 
 that guy's 
 real photogenic:
 
 http://photography.skofteland.net/insects/insect08.htm
 
 As you probably saw from my website, caterpillars have become a real 
 favorite of mine; all the photos up there were taken this 
 last summer.  The 
 incredible variety, colors and patterns of them amaze me.
 
 The Chinese Mantid is pretty cool, too:
 
 http://photography.skofteland.net/insects/insect10.htm
 
 I just got a similar photo of a mantis a couple of weeks ago, 
 I'll turn it 
 into wallpaper some time in the next few months.
 
 The photos of the mosquito drinking blood from your arm were 
 pretty amusing. 
   This sort of photo taking must be a characteristic of insect macro 
 photographers - perhaps it's an ability to see beauty 
 everywhere, even where 
 other people only see a bug.  When I innocently put some of 
 the insect 
 wallpapers onto my PC at work, some of my female colleagues 
 were appalled, 
 and no amount of explanation of their beauty or interesting 
 behavior would 
 convince them otherwise!  I have photos of a tick crawling up 
 my arm, but I 
 must admit I didn't wait until it started feeding before removing it!
 
 Richard.
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Re: Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article

2001-10-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

If editor's still demand lots of shots to chose from, as most do, the whole
argument is moot. Besides those slide photographers throw out more slides
than they keep. Then there is the question of accessablity, do photos stored
in a box in my attic add anything to the record of history?

The whole article seems to be another luddite trying to justify her luddite
fears. It was also a vehicle to generate ten thosand uninformed answers just
like this one.

Ciao, graywolf


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Subject: Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_162/1620067.stm
 Norm
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RE: ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread David Hatfield

John,

Don't know what you consider a kings ransom but BH carries the eyecups for
$22.50 each (prince's ransom, maybe?).

As to your customer service issues - Hear, Hear!!  I agree totally!  On
occasion it seems as though some camera stores put in their job
requirements, Must be capable of rudeness at a moments notice.

Dave

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Behalf Of John A. Hufnagel
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:37 AM
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Subject: ZX series eyecups

Well... I finally lost my *^#@ eyecup from my ZX-5n, at a camera store
(a lousy one at that... I'll go there later.)  Can someone point me to a
source of replacements that don't cost a kings ransom?  I'll probably
wind up getting 2 or 3, just in case.  Thanks.

soap box Now my camera store rant.  You would have thought that a
camera store would want to attract your business... But not in this case
it seems.  My nomination of Worst Store Of The Week goes to Beach Camera
of Maine in Greenbrook, NJ.  I went in there with my camera, which I
bought from them, to gather some more data on this lens compatibility
problem I'm having.  I've never met a more rude or discourteous persons
with regards to customers in general... Not to mention he put my FA50mm
f/1.4 in his cabinet by mistake and almost didn't want to return it to
me!  I wanted to try and give the my business as they have a decent
selection of used glass there and are local (support the local guys),
but I'll NEVER go back there again.  Someone forgot what customer
service is all about over there. /soap box

-- John
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RE: Re[2]: Pentax AF viewfinders

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Actually I've heard this complaint even to day. I know at least one Maxxum 9
shooter who was a little shocked to find that when he printed some film the
feet on a subject he was shooting wasn't in the print. Of course he normally
left it off the edge in his old camera knowing it would be on the print. He
was a little perturbed because he wasn't sure he liked 100% after that.
Go figure.
Kent Gittings

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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 1:17 PM
To: lbparis
Subject: Re[2]: Pentax AF viewfinders


Hi,

how on Earth did they try to justify such as stupid argument?

---

 Bob

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saturday, October 27, 2001, 4:24:17 PM, you wrote:

 Believe it or not, 100% viewfinders used to take a certain
 amount of criticism too, years ago.  Mainly from people that
 used the full frame to compose their pictures and then found
 that they couldn't print them on 8 X 10 paper without cropping.

 Len
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Irradiation

2001-10-29 Thread tom

From

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/national/26MAIL.html?searchpv=past7days

Experts generally agreed that foods sent through the mail would not be
affected. No radiation or significant heat is generated in the process,
which is already widely used to sterilize bandages, food containers,
spices, surgical supplies and food for astronauts and the Army.

But the high-energy electrons that penetrate material to kill bacteria
and spores could also destroy electronic circuits and data on floppy
disks, and they could alter the inks in photographs, officials at some
companies that build or operate sterilizing equipment said.

Inks in photographs!!??

More 

The technique could also change some materials in unpredictable ways.
For example, electrons can bounce around inside minerals, including
gemstones and glass, in ways that change the color of the material.
Topaz is routinely modified commercially from clear to blue through ion
beam sterilization, though at greater energy levels than those proposed
for sanitizing the mail. Mineralogists said similar reactions could
occur in glass at the energy levels being considered by companies
competing for postal contracts.

The consequences would vary tremendously depending on the type of glass,
but clear glass could turn brown, for example, said Dr. George R.
Rossman, a professor of mineralogy at the California Institute of
Technology.

In the Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53136-2001Oct25.html

The mail that's going to you and I, at this point, there's no
indication whatsoever of any ongoing problem, he [Deputy Postmaster
General John Nolan] said. We're looking at . . . mail going to certain
locations where you're more likely to have a risk of someone doing
something stupid, whether it's mail going to Congress or the White House
or Planned Parenthood. More than 120 abortion clinics, many run by
Planned Parenthood, have received anthrax threats in recent weeks.

What the post office says:

http://www.usps.com/news/2001/press/pr01_1027titan.htm

The Postal Service yesterday awarded a contract to the Titan
Corporation of San Diego, CA, to provide electron beam systems and
services to sanitize mail. Titan will subcontract with its subsidiary
SureBeam to provide the proprietary electron beam systems.

According to PMG Jack Potter, one of the first areas to receive
equipment will be the greater Washington Metropolitan Area, when
delivery of the systems begins next month.


tv


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Re: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

The strange thing about selecting lenses is that it tends to sort itself out
with experience. After awhile you find that for many of your shots you can't
seem to get close enought so you get a longer lens. Or you don't have room
to back up far enough so you get a wide angle. Or you find yourself shooting
a lot of small things close up so you get a macro.

There is a point to the proceeding paragraph. The point is you have to know
what you want to do before you can decide what you need to do it with. You
find that out by shooting photos of everything in sight until you find
yourself specializing in a few things. Then it is time to add to your
equipment list. Until then it is best to invest in film and processing.
Don't even think of adding to your outfit until you have shot 20-40 rolls of
film. By then, what your needs will be pretty obvious.

Of course, if your interest is spending money and bragging about your outfit
ignor the forgoing and just buy as many of the most expensive accessories as
you can find. But if that is your purpose you will get better results with a
new Hasselblad than a 25 year old Pentax.
--graywolf


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 Hiya there,

 let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced regarding
 Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
 For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera.
 I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came out
 great, too
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Spotmatic viewfinder coverage?

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Johnston

Does anybody know what the viewfinder coverage of the Spotmatic SP is? I
know it's different than the SP II, but I can't find the info either on
Jonkman's site, Gerjan's book, or in Comon.

--Mike
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Re: How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread William Johnson

Hi,

I don't know about the A3000, but I picked up a MEII
winder over the weekend (birthday present for
myself:)) for my Super Programs and ME and compared to
my ZX-5n it really sounds like it means business.
Kinda like the difference between and electric scooter
and a Harley.

William in Utah.

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:38:54 -0500
From: Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How it SOUNDS

I was just taking some shots of my daughter with my
A3000.  I hadn't used it
much since I got my MZ-5N and I was struck by how much
cooler it sounds than
the newer camera.  There's a definite KA-chunk with
the A3000 followed by
the winder.  The winder sounds like it's working a bit
to advance the film.
  On the MZ 5N, it's much more sterile.  The
mirror/shudder noise is
relatively non-existent and the winder sounds less
interesting.  Sounds a
lot more like my Kodak advantix PS than the sound in
my head that
represents expensive(good?) cameras.  (Think early
80's pop song by the J.
Giles Band Freeze Frame)
  I don't have a lot of experience with SLR cameras. 
The two I have are the
only ones I've messed with for any length of time.  I
guess I'll have to buy
a bunch of cameras to evaluate the noises they make so
I can report to the
list...:)

Cory Waters
Thinking my wife won't buy that particular reasoning
and will counter any
enableing that might flow from other list members. :(
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The MX

2001-10-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Last week I ranted about the flimsy feel of the MX and indicated that I
especially didn't like the feel of the film advance lever.  This was, of
course, based on my MX, which I purchased just after it had been
overhauled by Pentax.

When I received the camera I asked the list about the non-linear feel of
the MX film advance, and several respondents said that it was normal. 
I believed that that's just the way the MX was designed.

Yesterday Juan Buhler and I got together and I took a few shots with his
MX.  The difference between the two cameras (his and mine) is
substantial.  His feels a lot more solid, the film advance has a nice
linear feel to it, and is, it seems, quieter and smoother than mine.

If Juan's MX is typical, then I must rescind my generalized comments and
say Let me have one.  At some point I'd like to try a few other MX
bodies and see how many are like Juan's, and then, perhaps, grab a good
one.  
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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RE: Photos of Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Yeah this was all due to those 2 big solar flares back on around the 18th, I
think. one was an X1 level and the other an X1.6 level. The brighter one was
followed by a full halo mass ejection of about 2 billion tons of solar
material. They figured it would strike the Earth sometime on the 21st,
creating problems for communications on that date. There is a website called
something like  astroweather that tracks all the sunspots and all the astro
instruments watching the Sun and reports on any changes that might affect
us. When I saw this I decided the 21st wasn't a particularly good time to be
standing under the ozone hole in Antarctica.
Kent Gittings

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Subject: OT: Photos of Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis


 From a BBC News story:

Red and green lights dance in the sky above the North and South poles.
The two lights - the Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis - appear to be
a mirror image of each other.

It is the first time Northern and Southern Lights brightening at the
same time at opposite ends of the Earth have been captured on film.


At: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1621000/1621406.stm

Bob Harris
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RE: insect macro photos

2001-10-29 Thread Skofteland, Christian

Tom;

That photo is awesome!  The eyes and fangs are tack sharp and the legs add
good depth and 3-dimensionality (is that even a word?).  The only niggling
issue I would have is the fore-leg that is completely out of focus on the
right.

Christian Skofteland

 -Original Message-
 From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I have taken exactly one insect macro in my life:
 
 http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/spider_02090101_9.html
 
 I think I did this with the FA 50/2.8 and the whole extension tube
 set...I think the film was APX 25.
 
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Re: Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article

2001-10-29 Thread postmaster

Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

If editor's still demand lots of shots to chose from, as most do, the whole
argument is moot. Besides those slide photographers throw out more slides
than they keep. Then there is the question of accessablity, do photos stored
in a box in my attic add anything to the record of history?

The whole article seems to be another luddite trying to justify her luddite
fears. It was also a vehicle to generate ten thosand uninformed answers
just
like this one.

Agreed. It seemed to me a deliberate and rather weak attempt on the part
of the writer and the BBC editors to stir up controversy.

A) The photographic record has always been edited in one way or another.

B) Digital photography will eventually result in more, not fewer, photographs
being taken to record any given event.

C) As storage capacity increases, the number of images saved digitally will
equal or surpass the quantity that could be done on film.

And finally...

D) More does not equal better. Anyone who's ever had to sift through hundreds
of slides in notebooks or hundreds of files on a hard disk can attest that
a few good images are better than a sea of data. 

Personally, I think that B, C and D together represent the real problem:
That someday we'll be so overwhelmed by the volume of data (images, in this
case) that it becomes a nearly impossible task to separate the wheat from
the chaff.
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RE: Photos of Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

I have 4 also.
Meade 152ED/APO 6 F9 refractor
Meade (Kowa) 80mm F15 refractor from the late 60's.
LOMO 133.5mm F10.2 Maksutov-Cassegrain
Celestron 127mm F6 Schmidt-Cassegrain
All can be mounted at the same time on my Celestron CI-700 equatorial mount.

It's a close battle whether I've spent more on camera gear or more on
astronomy equipment.

By the way as a kid I lived in Maine for a few years. South of Machias in a
town called Bucks Harbor.
Kent Gittings

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Subject: Re: Photos of Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis


At 9:21 PM -0600 10/27/01, aimcompute wrote:
What kind of telescope do you have Steve?  Astronomy is a hobby of mine on
a
par with photography, except I don't have the hardware.  I live in a primo
dark-sky location, virtually no neighbors, about 4500' elevation,  have a
flat spot on the edge of a drop-off about 50 yards from the house and would
love to set up an observatory, dome and all, sometime.

I have four telescopes. :^)

The one I use the most is a 10 Meade Starfinder newtonian that I
bought two years ago. For planets and astrophotography I have a
Celestron 5 (one of the old orange ones). My home made 8 newtonian
serves only as a back up now, and I keep the 50mm Tasco refractor
that my parents bought me thirty years ago out of sentimentality.

To be honest you don't need much equipment to enjoy astronomy. A good
pair of binoculars would be sufficient. My (East German vintage)
Zeiss 7X50s probably see more use than my telescopes!

I live about five miles outside of a small town on the Maine coast.
It's on a hillside in a small subdivision (ten houses now). When the
neighbours turn their  door lights off it is very dark. I have
pondered an observatory for many years. They are expensive, though.
This summer I built the next best thing: a 6' high wooden board fence
enclosing a 10' square section of my property. I hinged the top 3' of
each side so I could fold them down and see the sky down to the
horizon when needed. Now, I can observe in privacy, sheltered from
the wind and the local lights. It's probably the best astronomical
investment I have ever made.

Astronomy is my primary hobby...photography would be #2.
--
Steve
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Re: New products and No-production

2001-10-29 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore

Aaron,

Is this an attempt at 'speculation enabling'?

Rob


C'mon, guys, I'm trying to stir up endless speculation about the features, 
specs and price of this camera from only its name and dimensions.  You're 
really disappointing me!

-Aaron



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RE: full frame on digital slrs

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Minolta did that on the RD-175. Unfortunately the process causes the all
lenses to have to be rated at F6.7 aperture or slower regardless of how fast
they are. This is because not only does the lens have to change the light
going to the chip but also to the viewfinder since it has to be done after
the lens or with an alternate set of additional optics in the viewfinder.
Also it requires the viewfinder be significantly farther back which then
makes the camera considerably thicker. As a result of this everybody decided
just to leave the chip alone so that the lenses could stay just as fast as
normal and it could be built on a body not much larger than the film
versions of the respective cameras.
Kent Gittings

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of john.vanderaalst
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: full frame on digital slrs


Just a thought
I understand that the Pentax full-frame digital camera is cancelled,
probably because of problems with the chip. But everybody would want
such a camera because existing optics - especially wide-angle - could be
used at full capacity.
I also understand that ANY digital SLR with removable lenses have
annoying problems because after some time dust can accumulate on the
ccd.

So my question: isn't it theoretically and practically possible ( and
maybe even not that complicated) to make a digital SLR with a smaller
chip that is equipped permanently with a strong positive optic in front
of the chip, so that every existing lens can still be used with the same
angle of view ? So that a 50mm-lens would not
cover the usual 24-36, but instead be projected on the size of the chip.

The fixed positive optic would be a kind of inverted tele-converter,
and, as it is fixed, would protect the ccd from dust.
The distance between CCD and bayonet-flange would be different than the
one on existing-pentaxes, but that wouldn't be a problem whatsover.
Probably there's a design-flaw somewhere in the above, but I would like
to know where it is
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Re: How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)

On 29 Oct 2001, at 9:38, Cory or Brenda Waters wrote:

   There's a definite KA-chunk with the A3000 ..

Start with the 67 - that's one earth-shattering KA-CHUNK!!
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AW: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Sandmann, Silke

I read that already. And I agree with you. But to start I need at least a
certain 
amount of lenses, don't I? At least 2? One for the close and one for the
distance.
And exactly that is what I am trying to find out. But I certainly don't want
to spend
money just to get an equipment I am not able to use (yet).


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von:  Tom Rittenhouse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet am:  Montag, 29. Oktober 2001 16:34
 An:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff:  Re: so many questions
 
 The strange thing about selecting lenses is that it tends to sort itself
 out
 with experience. After awhile you find that for many of your shots you
 can't
 seem to get close enought so you get a longer lens. Or you don't have room
 to back up far enough so you get a wide angle. Or you find yourself
 shooting
 a lot of small things close up so you get a macro.
 
 There is a point to the proceeding paragraph. The point is you have to
 know
 what you want to do before you can decide what you need to do it with. You
 find that out by shooting photos of everything in sight until you find
 yourself specializing in a few things. Then it is time to add to your
 equipment list. Until then it is best to invest in film and processing.
 Don't even think of adding to your outfit until you have shot 20-40 rolls
 of
 film. By then, what your needs will be pretty obvious.
 
 Of course, if your interest is spending money and bragging about your
 outfit
 ignor the forgoing and just buy as many of the most expensive accessories
 as
 you can find. But if that is your purpose you will get better results with
 a
 new Hasselblad than a 25 year old Pentax.
 --graywolf
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sandmann, Silke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:43 AM
 Subject: so many questions
 
 
  Hiya there,
 
  let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced
 regarding
  Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
  For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera.
  I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came
 out
  great, too
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RE: One UGLY slr...

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Maybe ugly but you notice Nikon made the shutter angle and location exactly
the same as the F100/F5. Smart move I'd say. This is the kind of things a
good design team should pay attention to. But it's looks might take some
getting used to. And the limited lens range.
Kent Gittings

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cameron R. Hood
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; randall larocque; Darren  Tara Sutherland
Subject: One UGLY slr...


http://www.mcbaincamera.com/digital/nikon/5000.htm
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Re: insect macro photos

2001-10-29 Thread tom

Skofteland, Christian wrote:
 
 Tom;
 
 That photo is awesome!  The eyes and fangs are tack sharp and the legs add
 good depth and 3-dimensionality (is that even a word?).  

Thanks.

 The only niggling
 issue I would have is the fore-leg that is completely out of focus on the
 right.

Yeah, you're right...I had one with more DOF (patient little bugger) but
chose this one cuz his eyes popped a bit more, and having that leg in
focus was actually more distracting.

BTW, he's clinging to a vertical wall.

tv
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RE: The MX

2001-10-29 Thread Skofteland, Christian

Shel;

I got my MX last Monday and was surprised at how solid it felt after reading
the rants from the list members.  I was really expecting a flimsy camera
without the positive feel and solidity of the LX.  I am already in love with
the mechanical shutter! 

Christian Skofteland


 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
 Last week I ranted about the flimsy feel of the MX and 
 indicated that I
 especially didn't like the feel of the film advance lever.  
 This was, of
 course, based on my MX, which I purchased just after it had been
 overhauled by Pentax.
 
 When I received the camera I asked the list about the 
 non-linear feel of
 the MX film advance, and several respondents said that it was 
 normal. 
 I believed that that's just the way the MX was designed.
 
 Yesterday Juan Buhler and I got together and I took a few 
 shots with his
 MX.  The difference between the two cameras (his and mine) is
 substantial.  His feels a lot more solid, the film advance has a nice
 linear feel to it, and is, it seems, quieter and smoother than mine.
 
 If Juan's MX is typical, then I must rescind my generalized 
 comments and
 say Let me have one.  At some point I'd like to try a few other MX
 bodies and see how many are like Juan's, and then, perhaps, 
 grab a good
 one.  
 -- 
 Shel Belinkoff
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RE: ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread Brendan

And don't forget to get a $1.00 pack of those little
black elastic bands to help keep the new one on.

--- David Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John,
 
 Don't know what you consider a kings ransom but BH
 carries the eyecups for
 $22.50 each (prince's ransom, maybe?).
 
 As to your customer service issues - Hear, Hear!!  I
 agree totally!  On
 occasion it seems as though some camera stores put
 in their job
 requirements, Must be capable of rudeness at a
 moments notice.
 
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of John A. Hufnagel
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ZX series eyecups
 
 Well... I finally lost my *^#@ eyecup from my ZX-5n,
 at a camera store
 (a lousy one at that... I'll go there later.)  Can
 someone point me to a
 source of replacements that don't cost a kings
 ransom?  I'll probably
 wind up getting 2 or 3, just in case.  Thanks.
 
 soap box Now my camera store rant.  You would have
 thought that a
 camera store would want to attract your business...
 But not in this case
 it seems.  My nomination of Worst Store Of The Week
 goes to Beach Camera
 of Maine in Greenbrook, NJ.  I went in there with my
 camera, which I
 bought from them, to gather some more data on this
 lens compatibility
 problem I'm having.  I've never met a more rude or
 discourteous persons
 with regards to customers in general... Not to
 mention he put my FA50mm
 f/1.4 in his cabinet by mistake and almost didn't
 want to return it to
 me!  I wanted to try and give the my business as
 they have a decent
 selection of used glass there and are local (support
 the local guys),
 but I'll NEVER go back there again.  Someone forgot
 what customer
 service is all about over there. /soap box
 
 -- John
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread mike y.

I've been pretty happy with mine but after 3 months something burned up 
inside.  They tried to claim I used the wrong power supply and didn't want 
to honor it, after much bitching they finally waranteed it.  In other words, 
keep every shred of packing material, the receipt, and send in the 
registration card with this one...

mike y.





From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Got a cheap film scanner...
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:04:55 +0100

bought the pacific image filmscan 1800 for the following reasons.

Cost.
Sick of scanning prints on a flatbed and having low contrast crappy colours
Cost
Most of my scans are for web / inkjet prints so not concerned too much over
resolution
Cost.

Not been disappointed yet! Am currently rescanning my favorites!!!
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RE: insect macro photos

2001-10-29 Thread Skofteland, Christian

Now for the gravity-defying question:  Was it climbing up the wall or going
down?  ;^)

Christian Skofteland


 -Original Message-
 From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 BTW, he's clinging to a vertical wall.
 
 tv
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Re: Stinking MSN

2001-10-29 Thread Chris Brogden

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 My homepage is Google.com  I don't want to see all that junk.  If I do, I go
 to yahoo, who can supply as much junk as I can possibly want.

My homepage used to be an eBay search for Pentax, sorted by most recent
items first.  :)

chris
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RE: 'analogical' lenses coating and CCD, not fully compatible?

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Not just that. The common type of CCD/CMOS array currently being used is
front illuminated. That means the part that illuminates the pixel is in
front. This means the light getting to it must pass through and around this
part of the array. As a result I'm pretty sure in the case of front
illumination the angle of incidence (angle it strikes the array) is very
critical to minimize distortion from the hardware in front.
Also this hardware forms a layer in front of the actual pixel array itself
which any dust will get on. So blowing it off with air will not damage the
array itself as it is under this layer.
The reason they are transitioning to rear illumination is that the
definition of each pixel improves without this front hardware distorting the
light path. Of course to work effectively in rear illumination the space
between the illumination and the pixels themselves must be even smaller than
in front illumination. As a result rear illumination arrays have to be
polished to a rear thickness of only 10 microns, making them more delicate
right now.
I'm also of the opinion that due to the differences between how the film
lies and how the array lies that lenses for digital cameras also needs a
flatter field than is necessary with film. Because the only cameras where
the film lies absolutely flat is ones with vacuum backs on them. So there is
likely a little more leeway in field curvature in film cameras than in
digital ones where the array is absolutely flat to some fraction of a wave
of sodium light.
Kent Gittings

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peifer, William
[OCDUS]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:42 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: 'analogical' lenses coating and CCD, not fully compatible?


On the subject of analog lenses, Tom C. (aimcompute) wrote:
 If any lens of sufficient quality attached to the camera body achieves
 a critical focus on the focal plane, and the image transmitted to the
 focal plane covers the entire sensor area, be it CCD or film, that's all
 that matters

and Rob Studdert replied:
 Maybe but there is possibly an angle of incidence factor ie film is
 not as sensitive to the angle of the light hitting its surface whereas
 the CCD cells really function optimally when hit by perpendicular
 rays

Hi Tom, Rob, et al.,

All this talk about analog vs. digital lenses has got me wondering a
bit.  I'm curious where this whole idea of CCD sensors requiring (or
preferring) perpendicular rays originated.  I'm pretty convinced that it
must have originated because somewhere along the line, something got taken
out of context, and a fundamentally incorrect idea grew from there.  From
the standpoint of the underlying physics, Tom is absolutely right -- the
purpose of a lens is to bring an image to critical focus at the focal plane,
and the nature of the sensor (film, CCD, CMOS, or other) isn't particularly
relevant.  After all, if all the light rays strike the sensor
perpendicularly, then they are necessarily parallel and thus cannot form an
image at the focal plane!

I suspect that this perpendicular-ray story -- dare I say legend? -- may
have originated from a misinterpretation of the characteristic behavior of
CCD sensors.  We all know that in single-chip color CCD sensors, some of the
pixels are sensitive to red, others to green, and still others to blue.  For
the case of color cameras with single CCD sensors, color sensitivity is
imparted to a particular pixel by incorporating a microscopic optic -- a
lenslet and filter -- in front of that pixel, which I believe is
accomplished as part of the manufacturing process for the sensor chip.  I
can imagine that the numerical aperture of this microscopic optic may not be
terribly large, and it might very well constrain the field of view of its
corresponding pixel.  Maybe someone that knows more about chip fab can
comment on this.  Anyway, although each individual pixel may very well be
looking through an optic with small numerical aperture, it's only
looking a very short distance (microns?  tenths of microns?) to the
illuminated spot on the focal plane directly in front of it.  In fact, this
is precisely what you want.  If each pixel had a more wide-angle view, it
would not only register the intensity of light directly in front of it, but
it would also register the intensity of light from a immediately adjacent
pixels (perhaps pixels intended to sense a different color), resulting in a
spatially and chromatically degraded image.  The characteristics of the
macroscopic, analog lens mounted onto the front of the camera -- focal
length, f-number, etc. -- isn't particularly relevant, except that a faster
analog lens will make each pixel-size spot of light at the focal plane
correspondingly brighter.

Jaume's original question about spectral characteristics of particular
lenses and lens coatings is interesting as well.  The general strategy in
designing the ~lens~ is, among other 

Re: Flocking Material

2001-10-29 Thread Dan Scott

Shel wrote:
Anyone know where I can get some flocking to line a few lens hoods?
--
Shel Belinkoff

Hi Shel,

You might try looking here: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/black.html .
Discusses various approaches other have taken.

Dan Scott
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OT: EI-100 On Yahoo! Class.

2001-10-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

There's an EI-100 @ a reasonable price on Yahoo! Classifieds.  $135.

Collin
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Tim S Kemp

 I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does it really scan at 1800
 dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a while but it is SCSI and
it's
 been a pain to connect ever since we moved into our new home.  I've been
 eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450) and they have a maximum
of
 either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could get reasonable 8x10's.
 Any experience with that?

It seems to scan at 1800dpi 12bit/channel quite happily, moving to it from
my (home) Scanjet 3400 and (work) Canon 626 the increase in depth and detail
is astonishing. Worth the money and 8x10 is quite acceptable!

Takes a while at top quality and the user interface is a bit crappy though.
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Re: Stinking MSN

2001-10-29 Thread aimcompute

I check the news and have some links set up to weather and spaceweather
sites which I use frequently which made it convenient.  Google is the search
engine I use exclusively.

Tom C.


- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Stinking MSN


 My homepage is Google.com  I don't want to see all that junk.  If I do, I
go
 to yahoo, who can supply as much junk as I can possibly want.

 Bruce Dayton


 - Original Message -
 From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:59 AM
 Subject: OT: Stinking MSN


  Sorry this is off-topic.  For several years now I have used msn.com as
my
  home page/portal when logging onto the net.  Like many it allows you to
  customize the content.  This is convenient.
 
  With the new version of their page, you cannot get to the customized
 content
  without first clicking on a tab.  I.E., you ALWAYS have to look at the
  garbage MSN want's to show you first, instead of seeing what you want to
 see
  first.
 
  Tom C.
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Delano Mireles

One last question. 

Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just import directly through
Photoshop.

I'm really tempted at that price.  I've been just using the scanners we have
here in our lab at Apple and while they are nice they are not at home :-)
On top of that, my wife is wanting to create some calendars for her parents
as gifts so what better excuse...

Thanks again,

Delano

 From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:10:17 -
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
 I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does it really scan at 1800
 dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a while but it is SCSI and
 it's
 been a pain to connect ever since we moved into our new home.  I've been
 eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450) and they have a maximum
 of
 either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could get reasonable 8x10's.
 Any experience with that?
 
 It seems to scan at 1800dpi 12bit/channel quite happily, moving to it from
 my (home) Scanjet 3400 and (work) Canon 626 the increase in depth and detail
 is astonishing. Worth the money and 8x10 is quite acceptable!
 
 Takes a while at top quality and the user interface is a bit crappy though.
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RE: Flocking Material

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Johnston

Bill P. wrote:

 Now ~here's~ a hell of a thing  A trick I read of to limit scattering
 inside telescope tubes is to glue a layer of oatmeal (!!) inside the tube,
 then paint flat black.  Allegedly works like a charm.  Uggh!

Bill,
Yeah, I'd probably rather live with a little flare s.

--Mike
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RE: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Actually Brendan I have an old Umax SCSI scanner I'm not using now either. I
think it is a 600S model. I replaced it with a USB Epson with an add on film
scanner module. I was using the Vuescan software with it in fact. Let me
know if you have an interest.
Kent Gittings

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...


Did I see SCSI? What model Umax is it, I've been
looking fo a working scsi scanner for my old MAC

--- Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does
 it really scan at 1800
 dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a while
 but it is SCSI and it's
 been a pain to connect ever since we moved into our
 new home.  I've been
 eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450)
 and they have a maximum of
 either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could
 get reasonable 8x10's.
 Any experience with that?

 Thanks,

 Delano

  From: mike y. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:41:21 -0700
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
  I've been pretty happy with mine but after 3
 months something burned up
  inside.  They tried to claim I used the wrong
 power supply and didn't want
  to honor it, after much bitching they finally
 waranteed it.  In other words,
  keep every shred of packing material, the receipt,
 and send in the
  registration card with this one...
 
  mike y.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Got a cheap film scanner...
  Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:04:55 +0100
 
  bought the pacific image filmscan 1800 for the
 following reasons.
 
  Cost.
  Sick of scanning prints on a flatbed and having
 low contrast crappy colours
  Cost
  Most of my scans are for web / inkjet prints so
 not concerned too much over
  resolution
  Cost.
 
  Not been disappointed yet! Am currently
 rescanning my favorites!!!
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Re: Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article

2001-10-29 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I was going to post that link under the subject 'Something to argue
about'. Anyway, here's another link that's relevant:

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue9807/editorial.htm

---

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Monday, October 29, 2001, 12:40:32 PM, you wrote:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_162/1620067.stm
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Re: viewscan is...

2001-10-29 Thread aimcompute

Replaces, but you can still use the original drivers/interface at any time
in the normal way.

You open Vuescan on the desktop and do your scanning.  The software will
open your image-editing program, importing the scanned image.

Tom C.

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From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: viewscan is...


 After reading some of the praises of this program
 i have to ask this(as i'm still looking at buying my own
 scanner)This sounds like a third partydriver for uploading
 scan's from a name brand unit.Does this replace the
 software that comes with a scanner or works with
 it.

 Thanks

 Dave,Iknow just enough to be dangerous,Brooks


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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Steele

Hi everyone,
I hope you don't mind a dumb questionbut I have 
been thinking about getting a new scanner, and
actually this film scanner sounds great...especially
the price...but it does both B  W and color?  I
actually want it for BW, to do proofs, before I
decide which negatives are worth printingsaves a
lot of time.  I don't want to invest in the high
quality printer you would need to due color prints,
and I don't want to get into color darkroom work
either! So this would work OK for B  W proofs?
Thanks!  Mike Steele

--- Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One last question. 
 
 Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just
 import directly through
 Photoshop.
 
 I'm really tempted at that price.  I've been just
 using the scanners we have
 here in our lab at Apple and while they are nice
 they are not at home :-)
 On top of that, my wife is wanting to create some
 calendars for her parents
 as gifts so what better excuse...
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Delano
 
  From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:10:17 -
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
  
  I saw this one on Costco's website for $149. 
 Does it really scan at 1800
  dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a
 while but it is SCSI and
  it's
  been a pain to connect ever since we moved into
 our new home.  I've been
  eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450)
 and they have a maximum
  of
  either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I
 could get reasonable 8x10's.
  Any experience with that?
  
  It seems to scan at 1800dpi 12bit/channel quite
 happily, moving to it from
  my (home) Scanjet 3400 and (work) Canon 626 the
 increase in depth and detail
  is astonishing. Worth the money and 8x10 is quite
 acceptable!
  
  Takes a while at top quality and the user
 interface is a bit crappy though.
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RE: Flocking Material

2001-10-29 Thread Kent Gittings

Known variously as irregular surface baffling or random surface baffling. Or
Quaker Oats baffling if your brand conscience.
Kent Gittings

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Bill P. wrote:

 Now ~here's~ a hell of a thing  A trick I read of to limit scattering
 inside telescope tubes is to glue a layer of oatmeal (!!) inside the tube,
 then paint flat black.  Allegedly works like a charm.  Uggh!

Bill,
Yeah, I'd probably rather live with a little flare s.

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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Tim S Kemp

 One last question.

 Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just import directly through
 Photoshop.

Yep, it does - if you don't mind a bigish file I can email you a sample or
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Tim S Kemp

 Hi everyone,
 I hope you don't mind a dumb questionbut I have
 been thinking about getting a new scanner, and
 actually this film scanner sounds great...especially
 the price...but it does both B  W and color?  I
 actually want it for BW, to do proofs, before I
 decide which negatives are worth printingsaves a
 lot of time.  I don't want to invest in the high
 quality printer you would need to due color prints,
 and I don't want to get into color darkroom work
 either! So this would work OK for B  W proofs?
 Thanks!  Mike Steele

I'm afraid I don't have any b/w film to try in it but the colour stuff is
good! It's 35 mm only remember...
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...sample request

2001-10-29 Thread Delano Mireles

Tim,

I'd love to have a sample.  could you email it to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks!

Delano

 From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:42:26 -
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
 One last question.
 
 Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just import directly through
 Photoshop.
 
 Yep, it does - if you don't mind a bigish file I can email you a sample or
 two
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread aimcompute

Unless I'm totally wrong any scanner will do BW, it just subtracts the
color information from the scanned image.  If it doesn't you can convert it
to grayscale with the image-editing software.

Tom C.

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From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...


  Hi everyone,
  I hope you don't mind a dumb questionbut I have
  been thinking about getting a new scanner, and
  actually this film scanner sounds great...especially
  the price...but it does both B  W and color?  I
  actually want it for BW, to do proofs, before I
  decide which negatives are worth printingsaves a
  lot of time.  I don't want to invest in the high
  quality printer you would need to due color prints,
  and I don't want to get into color darkroom work
  either! So this would work OK for B  W proofs?
  Thanks!  Mike Steele

 I'm afraid I don't have any b/w film to try in it but the colour stuff is
 good! It's 35 mm only remember...
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Re: Stinking MSN

2001-10-29 Thread aimcompute

Sicko!

Tom C.

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Subject: Re: Stinking MSN


 On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Bruce Dayton wrote:

  My homepage is Google.com  I don't want to see all that junk.  If I do,
I go
  to yahoo, who can supply as much junk as I can possibly want.

 My homepage used to be an eBay search for Pentax, sorted by most recent
 items first.  :)

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RE: ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread Ed

I was in there once and bought a bag from them.  They were rude to me
and everyone else in the store too.  I have not been back.

Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com 

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ZX series eyecups
 
snip
 soap box Now my camera store rant.  You would have thought 
 that a camera store would want to attract your business... 
 But not in this case it seems.  My nomination of Worst Store 
 Of The Week goes to Beach Camera of Maine in Greenbrook, NJ.  
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread mike y.

It does scan at 1800.  I've got some different scans at 
http://home.earthlink.net/~myehle/photos  Most of what I've done is scanning 
velvia for the web, I haven't tried printing yet.


How do you like the Umax?  what are the specs on it?  The reason I'm asking 
is if I can find a reasonably priced SCSI scanner,  I'll get rid of this one 
and pick up the SCSI model (the only reason I have win98 in the house is 
because there's very little support for USB scanners  under linux and none 
from pacific imaging.

Mike Y.


From: Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:49:23 -0600

I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does it really scan at 1800
dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a while but it is SCSI and it's
been a pain to connect ever since we moved into our new home.  I've been
eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450) and they have a maximum 
of
either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could get reasonable 8x10's.
Any experience with that?

Thanks,

Delano

  From: mike y. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:41:21 -0700
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
  I've been pretty happy with mine but after 3 months something burned up
  inside.  They tried to claim I used the wrong power supply and didn't 
want
  to honor it, after much bitching they finally waranteed it.  In other 
words,
  keep every shred of packing material, the receipt, and send in the
  registration card with this one...
 
  mike y.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Got a cheap film scanner...
  Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:04:55 +0100
 
  bought the pacific image filmscan 1800 for the following reasons.
 
  Cost.
  Sick of scanning prints on a flatbed and having low contrast crappy 
colours
  Cost
  Most of my scans are for web / inkjet prints so not concerned too much 
over
  resolution
  Cost.
 
  Not been disappointed yet! Am currently rescanning my favorites!!!
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread mike y.

yes, I've used it directly under photoshop.

Get ahold of me off-list  maybe we can figure something out since I'm 
looking for a SCSI scanner...





From: Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:18:36 -0600

One last question.

Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just import directly through
Photoshop.

I'm really tempted at that price.  I've been just using the scanners we 
have
here in our lab at Apple and while they are nice they are not at home :-)
On top of that, my wife is wanting to create some calendars for her parents
as gifts so what better excuse...

Thanks again,

Delano

  From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:10:17 -
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
  I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does it really scan at 
1800
  dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a while but it is SCSI and
  it's
  been a pain to connect ever since we moved into our new home.  I've 
been
  eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450) and they have a 
maximum
  of
  either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could get reasonable 
8x10's.
  Any experience with that?
 
  It seems to scan at 1800dpi 12bit/channel quite happily, moving to it 
from
  my (home) Scanjet 3400 and (work) Canon 626 the increase in depth and 
detail
  is astonishing. Worth the money and 8x10 is quite acceptable!
 
  Takes a while at top quality and the user interface is a bit crappy 
though.
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Re: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread mike y.

I finally got it to scan a BW image, but, I've only tried scanning a couple 
and they were from my 1st attempt at bw so they were pretty rough.

Mike Y.


From: Mike Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:31:07 -0800 (PST)

Hi everyone,
I hope you don't mind a dumb questionbut I have
been thinking about getting a new scanner, and
actually this film scanner sounds great...especially
the price...but it does both B  W and color?  I
actually want it for BW, to do proofs, before I
decide which negatives are worth printingsaves a
lot of time.  I don't want to invest in the high
quality printer you would need to due color prints,
and I don't want to get into color darkroom work
either! So this would work OK for B  W proofs?
Thanks!  Mike Steele

--- Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One last question.
 
  Does it support Twain acquire?  I'd love to just
  import directly through
  Photoshop.
 
  I'm really tempted at that price.  I've been just
  using the scanners we have
  here in our lab at Apple and while they are nice
  they are not at home :-)
  On top of that, my wife is wanting to create some
  calendars for her parents
  as gifts so what better excuse...
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Delano
 
   From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:10:17 -
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
  
   I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.
  Does it really scan at 1800
   dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a
  while but it is SCSI and
   it's
   been a pain to connect ever since we moved into
  our new home.  I've been
   eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450)
  and they have a maximum
   of
   either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I
  could get reasonable 8x10's.
   Any experience with that?
  
   It seems to scan at 1800dpi 12bit/channel quite
  happily, moving to it from
   my (home) Scanjet 3400 and (work) Canon 626 the
  increase in depth and detail
   is astonishing. Worth the money and 8x10 is quite
  acceptable!
  
   Takes a while at top quality and the user
  interface is a bit crappy though.
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RE: Got a cheap film scanner...

2001-10-29 Thread Brendan

Kent I'm almost afraid what you'll have to sell next
**cough maxxum**


--- Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually Brendan I have an old Umax SCSI scanner I'm
 not using now either. I
 think it is a 600S model. I replaced it with a USB
 Epson with an add on film
 scanner module. I was using the Vuescan software
 with it in fact. Let me
 know if you have an interest.
 Kent Gittings
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brendan
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
 
 
 Did I see SCSI? What model Umax is it, I've been
 looking fo a working scsi scanner for my old MAC
 
 --- Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I saw this one on Costco's website for $149.  Does
  it really scan at 1800
  dpi (optical)?  I've had a Umax scanner for a
 while
  but it is SCSI and it's
  been a pain to connect ever since we moved into
 our
  new home.  I've been
  eyeing USB scanners (Epson 1250 photo, Umax 6450)
  and they have a maximum of
  either 1200 or 600.  It seems that at 1800 I could
  get reasonable 8x10's.
  Any experience with that?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Delano
 
   From: mike y. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:41:21 -0700
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Got a cheap film scanner...
  
   I've been pretty happy with mine but after 3
  months something burned up
   inside.  They tried to claim I used the wrong
  power supply and didn't want
   to honor it, after much bitching they finally
  waranteed it.  In other words,
   keep every shred of packing material, the
 receipt,
  and send in the
   registration card with this one...
  
   mike y.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Tim S Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Got a cheap film scanner...
   Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:04:55 +0100
  
   bought the pacific image filmscan 1800 for the
  following reasons.
  
   Cost.
   Sick of scanning prints on a flatbed and having
  low contrast crappy colours
   Cost
   Most of my scans are for web / inkjet prints so
  not concerned too much over
   resolution
   Cost.
  
   Not been disappointed yet! Am currently
  rescanning my favorites!!!
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RE: ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread John A. Hufnagel

Ed:
Sounds like you're in my area.  From one Pentax lover to another, any
other shops in the area you know of?  NYC isn't too far away, but I'd
like to find a good shop within like 30 miles or so.

Thanks!

-- John


Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:16:48 -0500
From: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ZX series eyecups

I was in there once and bought a bag from them.  They were rude to me
and everyone else in the store too.  I have not been back.

Thanks,
Ed
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RE: 'analogical' lenses coating and CCD, not fully compatible?

2001-10-29 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Kent Gittings wrote:
[Lots of stuff on CCD imaging  Quotes and comments interspersed below]

Hi Kent,

Just a few notes, interspersed with quotes from your earlier message

 The common type of CCD/CMOS array currently being used is
 front illuminated. That means the part that illuminates the pixel is in
 front. This means the light getting to it must pass through and
 around this part of the array. As a result I'm pretty sure in the case
 of front illumination the angle of incidence (angle it strikes the array)
 is very critical to minimize distortion from the hardware in front.

It's certainly true that the field of view of a single pixel is limited.
This is as it should be, since you want that pixel to see only the tiny
speck of light directly in front of itself, rather than having it respond to
the speck of light in front of its nearest-neighbor pixel.  However, this is
not the same thing as saying that the pixel will see only those rays of
light that strike the focal plane in a perpendicular fashion.  The image
formed at the focal plane array -- in ~front~ of the pixels -- can be formed
by rays coming in from a very large cone of light.  A simple thought
experiment will help illustrate this.  Imagine setting up a very small CCD
array -- perhaps only a few tens of pixels wide by a few tens of pixels long
-- on a gigantic telescope at an observatory.  The telescope is moved in a
direction where the image of only a single star is focused onto the sensor
array.  The telescope mirror focuses light from across its very large
aperture onto this single pinpoint star image, and the rays striking the
array form a cone with a large angle -- far from the perpendicular condition
you describe.  You'll agree that the star image is exceedingly bright in
this case, right?  Now imagine stopping down the aperture of the giant
telescope so that only those rays close to perpendicular are allowed
through.  Let's say that to make sure the rays are very close to
perpendicular, we stop down the aperture to only a couple of inches --
perhaps a hundred times smaller in diameter, and ~very~ close to the
perpendicular condition you describe, right.  What happens to the brightness
of the image of the star?  Certainly, you'd agree that the image formed at
the focal plane is ~much~ dimmer now, and that the signal level measured by
the corresponding pixel is ~much~ lower as well, even though the intensity
contributed by the ~perpendicular~ rays hasn't changed at all.

 The angle of incidence (angle it strikes the array) is very critical to
 minimize distortion from the hardware in front

I know I just quoted this same sentence above, but it bears further comment.
Distortion doesn't come into play here in the way you suggest.  Remember
that the optic creating the image is the macroscopic-sized lens mounted on
the front of the camera (or in my example above, the huge astronomical
mirror).  Any distortion in ~this~ optic will of course degrade the image
formed at the focal plane.  Once you've broken this real image into
quantized bits, or pixels, there's no more optical quality to protect, and
there's essentially no more imaging taking place.  Each pixel measures the
total integrated intensity of light in a pixel-sized chunk of the original
image.  This integration is by its very nature a distortion of that tiny
portion of the original image.  Whether that tiny portion of the image was
formed by a narrow cone of light from a slow objective or a large cone of
light from a fast objective has nothing to do with the ability of the
individual pixel to properly integrate the signal level.  What does matter,
of course is that the field of view of the ~pixel~ is very narrow --
otherwise, it will pick up light intensity from adjacent pixels.

 The reason they are transitioning to rear illumination is that the
 definition of each pixel improves without this front hardware distorting
 the light path.

That's not correct.  The reason one uses back-thinned, rear-illuminated CCDs
is to get enhanced blue sensitivity.  All that front harware really eats
up blue and near UV signal intensity.  AFAIK, the back-thinned arrays are
only used for monochrome CCDs.  Some of the more expensive astro imaging
devices you've probably seen in Sky  Telescope use back-thinned arrays.

 I'm also of the opinion that due to the differences between how the film
 lies and how the array lies that lenses for digital cameras also needs a
 flatter field than is necessary with film. Because the only cameras
 where the film lies absolutely flat is ones with vacuum backs on them.
 So there is likely a little more leeway in field curvature in film cameras
 than in digital ones where the array is absolutely flat to some fraction
 of a wave of sodium light.

Interesting thought.  I wouldn't hazard a guess on flatness of the CCD array
-- perhaps it's flat to better than a wavelength, as you suggest.
Certainly, film isn't flat to this extent, and I'd bet that a vacuum back

Re: Re: viewscan is...

2001-10-29 Thread David Brooks

Thanks Tom C

 Begin Original Message 

From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:36:34 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: viewscan is...


Replaces, but you can still use the original drivers/interface at any 
time
in the normal way.

You open Vuescan on the desktop and do your scanning.  The software 
will
open your image-editing program, importing the scanned image.

Tom C.

- Original Message -
 From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: viewscan is...


 After reading some of the praises of this program
 i have to ask this(as i'm still looking at buying my own
 scanner)This sounds like a third partydriver for uploading
 scan's from a name brand unit.Does this replace the
 software that comes with a scanner or works with
 it.

 Thanks

 Dave,Iknow just enough to be dangerous,Brooks


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RE: Flocking Material

2001-10-29 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Kent Gittings wrote:
 Known variously as irregular surface baffling or random surface
 baffling. Or Quaker Oats baffling if your brand conscience.

Well, my wife remarked that the tube on my 8 Dobsonian scope looks a lot
like a giant oatmeal box.  Maybe the oatmeal baffling would be quite
apropos.  Would probably look cool if the white Sonotube exterior was
repainted with the characteristic Quaker Oats red and blue, featuring a
prominently displayed Quaker portrait as seen on the boxes.  VBG

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: Flocking Material

2001-10-29 Thread aimcompute

You would certainly have a conversation piece at star parties... go ahead
Bill... do it!

Tom C.

 Well, my wife remarked that the tube on my 8 Dobsonian scope looks a lot
 like a giant oatmeal box.  Maybe the oatmeal baffling would be quite
 apropos.  Would probably look cool if the white Sonotube exterior was
 repainted with the characteristic Quaker Oats red and blue, featuring a
 prominently displayed Quaker portrait as seen on the boxes.  VBG

 Bill Peifer
 Rochester, NY
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RE: Spotmatic viewfinder coverage?

2001-10-29 Thread Paul M. Provencher

93%

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Spotmatic viewfinder coverage?
 
 
  
 Does anybody know what the viewfinder coverage of the Spotmatic SP is? I
 know it's different than the SP II, but I can't find the info either on
 Jonkman's site, Gerjan's book, or in Comon.
 
 --Mike
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Re: full frame on digital slrs

2001-10-29 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

In addition to what Kent says, there is alsothe issue with leaving
enough space for the mirror to be able to swing up and down...

Cheers,
Boz
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Re: New products and No-production

2001-10-29 Thread Brendan

Bad Aaron Bad 

--- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 10:54  AM, Robert
 Soames Wetmore wrote:
 
  Is this an attempt at 'speculation enabling'?
 
 
 S, no one else appears to have caught on!
 
 -Aaron
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RE: ZX series eyecups

2001-10-29 Thread Ed

I'm not really in your area, I'm a little north of Baltimore.  I do
business occasionally in Bridgewater.

Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John A. Hufnagel
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: ZX series eyecups
 
 
 Ed:
 Sounds like you're in my area.  From one Pentax lover to 
 another, any other shops in the area you know of?  NYC isn't 
 too far away, but I'd like to find a good shop within like 30 
 miles or so.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- John
 
 
 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:16:48 -0500
 From: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: ZX series eyecups
 
 I was in there once and bought a bag from them.  They were 
 rude to me and everyone else in the store too.  I have not been back.
 
 Thanks,
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Takumar 200 f.35 pre-set

2001-10-29 Thread Peter Jesser

Can anyone give me an opinion on the Takumar 200 f3.5 pre-set? How good is 
it wide open? How does it compare with the SMC M 200 f4? What would be a 
fair price for the Tak 200 f3.5 and the SMC M200 4? The Takumar is quite a 
big lens, and has a tripod mount attached. The extra half stop aperature 
could be useful as I do some of my photography in low light conditions.

Any advice based on experience with these lenses would be appreciated.

Peter Jesser
Brisbane, Australia

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OT: MJ and trampolines

2001-10-29 Thread Rob Studdert

On 29 Oct 2001, at 13:17, Mike Johnston wrote:

 Yeah, I'd probably rather live with a little flare s.

Hi Mike,

Your email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like a trampoline 
to my ISP :-) Have you an alternate address?

Cheers,

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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: Takumar 200 f.35 pre-set

2001-10-29 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

The M200/4 is an excellent lens. I use mine frequently, with very nice
results. My current PUG submission was shot with that lens, as was my
entry of two months ago. The latter photo was shot directly into the
headlights of a truck with no noticeable flare. I would guess that the
Takumar pre-set is much more susceptible to flare, since it is not
multi-coated. I also wonder how good it is optically, since Pentax
redesigned it completely when they released the Super Tak version a few
years later. It would be nice to have a tripod mount on a 200, but the M
version is so light, it's not really necessary.
Paul

Peter Jesser wrote:
 
 Can anyone give me an opinion on the Takumar 200 f3.5 pre-set? How good is
 it wide open? How does it compare with the SMC M 200 f4? What would be a
 fair price for the Tak 200 f3.5 and the SMC M200 4? The Takumar is quite a
 big lens, and has a tripod mount attached. The extra half stop aperature
 could be useful as I do some of my photography in low light conditions.
 
 Any advice based on experience with these lenses would be appreciated.
 
 Peter Jesser
 Brisbane, Australia
 
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Re: AW: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Frank Theriault

In my humble opinion, you don't need any particular amount of lenses.  You've
got a good one on your camera to begin with.  The type of photography you want
to do will dictate how many and what focal length lenses you need.  Henri
Cartier-Bresson managed pretty well, and he used only three lenses:  50mm (or
whatever the standard Leica lens is), 90mm and, occasionally, a 135mm.

You can always use your feet (step back, walk forward) if need be.

I would probably start with maybe a 35mm and a 135mm.  They are plentiful and
relatively reasonable in price.  That way you'll have a moderately wide-angle
and telephoto capability.  From there, you'll get a feel as to whether you need
anything longer, wider, or whether you need to fill in any gaps.  Indeed, you
may decide to get a zoom (or zooms) to do that (as I've done).

The type of pictures you want to take will dictate what you need.

regards,
frank

Sandmann, Silke wrote:

 I read that already. And I agree with you. But to start I need at least a
 certain
 amount of lenses, don't I? At least 2? One for the close and one for the
 distance.
 And exactly that is what I am trying to find out. But I certainly don't want
 to spend
 money just to get an equipment I am not able to use (yet).


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Re: how much ?

2001-10-29 Thread Frank Theriault

Hi, Dave,

I have no idea how much it would be, but once you find out from other
list-members what to expect, you can contact Kominek's here in Toronto -
their e-mail address in at the site:

http://www.kominek.com/

They answer their e-mails quickly, and they seem to be pretty friendly
and forthcoming.

regards,
frank

David Brooks wrote:

 I'm going to send my SF-1 in to have it looked at
 to see if indeed it has a light leak
 or it is in the lab.
 Is there a standard fee latitude for this service ie:
 replace some foam and inspection.Just want to get
 a rough idea and make sure i'm being quoted something
 realistic.

 Thanks in advance

 Dave

 PS working in Can. funds here.

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Re: Fine Grained 400 b/w

2001-10-29 Thread Paul Jones

 Other than that, Ilford 400 Delta BW is quite nice but doesn't
 push too well (if that worries you).

I have never really shot much Ilford film, but i might give this a go. I'm
also considering Neopan 400.

 For color, use print film.  Slap on that filter, push it a stop if you
 have to, and go. I use Fuji NPZ (the replacement for NHGII) 800
 all the time under tungsten theatre lights, and it works GREAT
 (esp. in 6x7 but still well in 35mm) even when shot at 3200 and
 pushed a stop.

I think i'll grab a role of the NPZ800 and maybe i'll grab a roll of NPH400
aswell. As i'm not sure wether i would prefer the lower contrast of NPH400
yet :)
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Re: so many questions

2001-10-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Why do you need a couple of lenses? What have you tried to photograph that
the lens you have didn't work for? How often have you run into that problem?

Go out and shoot pictures. Read a couple of books. We on this list can help
you decide which lens is best for your purpose, but we can not decide what
your purpose is for you. You have to find that out for yourself. You need
some experience to do that.

And, realize that millions of great pictures have been made with cameras
like the old Rolleiflex that had only the built in lens available.
--graywolf


- Original Message -
From: Sandmann, Silke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: AW: so many questions


I read that already. And I agree with you. But to start I need at least a
certain
amount of lenses, don't I? At least 2? One for the close and one for the
distance.
And exactly that is what I am trying to find out. But I certainly don't want
to spend
money just to get an equipment I am not able to use (yet).


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Tom Rittenhouse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet am: Montag, 29. Oktober 2001 16:34
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: so many questions

 The strange thing about selecting lenses is that it tends to sort itself
 out
 with experience. After awhile you find that for many of your shots you
 can't
 seem to get close enought so you get a longer lens. Or you don't have room
 to back up far enough so you get a wide angle. Or you find yourself
 shooting
 a lot of small things close up so you get a macro.

 There is a point to the proceeding paragraph. The point is you have to
 know
 what you want to do before you can decide what you need to do it with. You
 find that out by shooting photos of everything in sight until you find
 yourself specializing in a few things. Then it is time to add to your
 equipment list. Until then it is best to invest in film and processing.
 Don't even think of adding to your outfit until you have shot 20-40 rolls
 of
 film. By then, what your needs will be pretty obvious.

 Of course, if your interest is spending money and bragging about your
 outfit
 ignor the forgoing and just buy as many of the most expensive accessories
 as
 you can find. But if that is your purpose you will get better results with
 a
 new Hasselblad than a 25 year old Pentax.
 --graywolf


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 From: Sandmann, Silke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:43 AM
 Subject: so many questions


  Hiya there,
 
  let me expose it the following way. I am complete unexperienced
 regarding
  Pentax but I am willing to learn as much a possible.
  For a certain time someone has lent me the K 2. Wonderful camera.
  I have got a relationship with it already and the first pictures came
 out
  great, too
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insect macro photo technique

2001-10-29 Thread Richard Seaman

Christian,

I do my macro photos using an MZ-5, SMC Pentax FA 100mm f2.8 macro lens, 
AF500FTZ flash and ASA400 film, either Kodak Supra, Fuji Superia or anything 
else that looks good and cheap at BH!  The lens goes up to 1:1 
magnification.

I always use this lens in manual focus mode.  As most macro 
photographers learn, depth of field is often so narrow that it's usually 
easier to move yourself backwards and forwards to achieve focus than to move 
the focusing ring.  I assume you've already figured out that trick!  As with 
birds or other animals, it's almost always vital to focus on the critter's 
eye(s).  When a person looks at a photograph of another person or an animal, 
if the eye(s) are focused then the photo looks fine, even if other things 
aren't focused, and if the eye(s) aren't focused then the shot is destined 
for the trash can!

As far as flash is concerned, I'm very unsophisticated - I just set it 
to 24mm manual zoom and blast the hapless wee beastie with it.  It's 
surprising how few insects are put off by the bright burst of light, maybe 
they're dazed and blinded by it!  Butterflies often flinch, but don't fly 
away, it's usually my movements that make that happen.

I often do insect photography using my Tokina ATX 150-500mm f5.6 lens.  
It's not a macro lens by any stretch of the imagination, but it focuses down 
to 8 feet and it allows me to keep enough distance to get photos of insects 
which I simply wouldn't get with the macro lens.  If I succeed in getting 
the distant shots then I'll often move in for the kill with the macro 
lens.

I used to use extension tubes together with a Tokina 100-300 f4, but I 
usually got hot spots in the photo, even using the lens mounted on a 
tripod with no flash, so I gave up on it.  I still haven't figured out why 
those hot spots happened.

There, you asked for my technique, so I've given you all you could want 
and probably more!

Richard.

--- original message ---

From: Skofteland, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: insect macro photos

Thanks Richard.  I did notice a lot of caterpillar photos on your site!

The Io caterpillars were everywhere in that tree and it was impossible to
get a good head shot of one of them while they were feeding.  In the end, I
filled the frame with color and spines and feet!  I think the Velveta(sic)
did it's usually incredible job of color saturation and depth.

When I have time (and a lot more money (more on that later) I'm going to
build a multiple flash bracket for better shadow control and background
rendition.

I get a lot of comments about the mossie pictures from my co-workers.  I
learned a lot about camera control and stability by shooting those one
handed.  All I can say is the Grip B on the LX made it possible!

I'd be interested in learning your techniques with regards to macros.  What 
kind of flash, lenses, magnification rates, etc.

Thanks again.

Christian Skofteland

home phone: (1)(847) 244 5463
home page:  www.richard-seaman.com


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Re: My weekend with Leica and Rollei and Pentax and a bunch of dawgs

2001-10-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

The problem is probably more the lab than the Bernese grin. Seriously, the
lab probably made prints based on the overall exposure, when they needed to
be weighed toward the shadow detail in the dogs. Try having them reprinted
by someone who knows what they are doing.

You can improve the exposure in cases like this by rating your 200 speed
film at 100 for increased shadow detail, but they probably would have
printed them wrong anyway. There really should be enough latitude in the
film to get an acceptable print.
--graywolf


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From: Wendy Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: My weekend with Leica and Rollei and Pentax and a bunch of
dawgs


 Last weekend I went to a Carting workshop.
 Not go-karting for dogs, something a little more sedate. It covered things
 like choosing and fitting harnesses, drafting and backpacking.
 With 12 Bernese Mountain Dogs in attendance, I wanted to get a few good
photos.
 I took an MZ-M with 43mm (Why this combination? I don't know, it just
 looked pretty) Very disappointing results.
 It was a very bright day, so high contrast with both the dogs and the
 background. Film was Kodak royal gold 200.
 Photos showed very little details on the dogs. I guess really I should
have
 been using some fill-in flash to get highlights in their eyes, but they
had
 enough to concentrate on with all the new stuff going on around them.
 I suppose what I'm asking is, what could I have done to get better photos,
 and how on earth does one shoot black dogs successfully?!

 Wendy

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Re: How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread Nicholas Wright

Funny enough, I've grown quite attached to the sound of my pz1p. My first 
reaction to the MZ-S was oh my g** what is that noise!?!? :) My pz1p was
quite loud at first... but I guess my shutter has broken in over the last
two years and it is now a quiet, almost musical, snicker.

Nick

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From: Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How it SOUNDS
Date: Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 8:38 AM


 I was just taking some shots of my daughter with my A3000.  I hadn't used it
 much since I got my MZ-5N and I was struck by how much cooler it sounds than
 the newer camera.  There's a definite KA-chunk with the A3000 followed by
 the winder.  The winder sounds like it's working a bit to advance the film.
   On the MZ 5N, it's much more sterile.  The mirror/shudder noise is
 relatively non-existent and the winder sounds less interesting.  Sounds a
 lot more like my Kodak advantix PS than the sound in my head that
 represents expensive(good?) cameras.  (Think early 80's pop song by the J.
 Giles Band Freeze Frame)
   I don't have a lot of experience with SLR cameras.  The two I have are the
 only ones I've messed with for any length of time.  I guess I'll have to buy
 a bunch of cameras to evaluate the noises they make so I can report to the
 list...:)

 Cory Waters
 Thinking my wife won't buy that particular reasoning and will counter any
 enableing that might flow from other list members. :(
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Re: Fine Grained 400 b/w

2001-10-29 Thread Nicholas Wright

Ilford's HP5+ is an awesome film. It is 400 ISO but has extremely fine 
grain. I use it for everything from feature stories to sports action, pushes
very nicely too. I develop it in Kodak T-Max Pro.

Nick

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From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fine Grained 400 b/w
Date: Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 6:54 PM


 Hi,

 I'm going to be shooting some portraits tonight under studio lighting and am
 planning on shooting b/w film. I have been shooting mostly TriX over the
 past few weeks, but would like something a bit finer grained for this. Any
 suggestions? I will be scanning them and maybe making a wet print or two wet
 prints. If i descide to shoot 100iso then i will use Acros, but i seem to
 like 400 more for this sort of work.

 I may shoot a role or two of colour, but have never shot colour with
 Tungsten lighting before. I have a correction filter for tungsten lighting
 at home (its an 80a or 80b, cant remember which). Any tips for shooting
 colour?

 The developers i mainly use are Xtol, Rodinal and ID-11.

 Thanks,
 Paul Jones
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Re: Photos of Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis

2001-10-29 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 10:24 PM -0600 10/27/01, aimcompute wrote:
That sounds pretty neat Steve.  I was to Maine when I was a kid.  I still
think it would be a neat place to live because of the isolation.

If you do any astrophotography, I'd like to see it.

I've just started dabbling in it again for the first time in many 
years. Back when I last did any amount of astrophotography GAF 500 
and GAF 200 were the films of choice! Astrophotography is very 
tedious, time consuming and demanding.  But this summer I spent a 
couple of evenings doing piggyback photography with my all-mechanical 
Miranda and a 35mm lens atop my C5. With a decent polar alignment it 
hopefully tracked well enough through the 10-15 minute exposures, 
because I did not do any guiding! My films are awaiting processing.

If you look at any of the astronomy magazines you'd see that CCDs are 
quickly becoming the imaging tools of choice, even for amateurs. Very 
sensitive, no reciprocity failure and digital output make them very 
attractive.

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Re: Fine Grained 400 b/w

2001-10-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Paul Jones 
Subject: Re: Fine Grained 400 b/w


 Hi Bill,

 T400CN seems to have discontinued and has disapeared from most
of the shops
 near me. Its been replaced with Portra 400, which is supposed
to be really
 hard to print with in a convential dark room.

I sampled some Portra 400. It looks much closer to SelectBW
than to the CN film.
I would be willing to bet it is pretty much the same film.
Well, thats twice in two days I have struck out.
At least I have a friendly dog
William Robb
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Re: My weekend with Leica and Rollei and Pentax and a bunch of dawgs

2001-10-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Wendy Beard 
Subject: Re: My weekend with Leica and Rollei and Pentax and a
bunch of dawgs


 Last weekend I went to a Carting workshop.
 Not go-karting for dogs, something a little more sedate. It
covered things
 like choosing and fitting harnesses, drafting and backpacking.
 With 12 Bernese Mountain Dogs in attendance, I wanted to get a
few good photos.
 I took an MZ-M with 43mm (Why this combination? I don't know,
it just
 looked pretty) Very disappointing results.
 It was a very bright day, so high contrast with both the dogs
and the
 background. Film was Kodak royal gold 200.
 Photos showed very little details on the dogs. I guess really
I should have
 been using some fill-in flash to get highlights in their eyes,
but they had
 enough to concentrate on with all the new stuff going on
around them.
 I suppose what I'm asking is, what could I have done to get
better photos,
 and how on earth does one shoot black dogs successfully?!

A couple of quick questions.
Can you put me in touch with anyone who can provide either
pulling harnesses or plans for making them. Carting is something
I want the Rotties to start doing, but I am having a hell of a
time finding any solid information about drafting harnesses for
dogs.

Regarding photographing black dogs, I did a portrait shoot of
some of the club dogs on Sunday. I shot Portra 160NC, and
overexposed it by a stop and a half. This worked well.
The trick is to get away from the contrastorama amatuer crap
film and use film designed for something other than Aunt
Martha's junky point and pray.
William Robb
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Re: POW Page

2001-10-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff 
Subject: Re: POW Page


 OK, but what did I do that's a header tag?  Can you point to
the line
 of code?

Since you asked.
I applied a basic declaration (  !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//ENHTML  ) to your page
and then parsed it with a W3C service. Here is what it said
about your page:

Line 5, column 36:

   font face='Arial' color='black'h3Picture of the
Week/h3
   ^

 Error: element H3 not allowed here; possible cause is an
inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 6, column 61:

   img
src=http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/twohondas.jpg;

^

 Error: required attribute ALT not specified

 Line 7, column 3:

   h5centerTwo old Hondas abandoned in a field near my
house/center
  ^

 Error: element H5 not allowed here; possible cause is an
inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 7, column 11:

   h5centerTwo old Hondas abandoned in a field near my
house/center
  ^

 Error: element CENTER not allowed here; possible cause is
an inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 8, column 7:

   centerLeica M3 with 90mm Elmarit, Delta 100/center
  ^

 Error: element CENTER not allowed here; possible cause is
an inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 9, column 2:

   pcenter
 ^

 Error: element P not allowed here; possible cause is an
inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 9, column 10:

   pcenter
 ^

 Error: element CENTER not allowed here; possible cause is
an inline element containing a block-level element

 Line 13, column 19:

   /center/p/font
  ^

 Error: end tag for H5 omitted; possible causes include a
missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an
element where it is not allowed

 Line 7, column 0:

   h5centerTwo old Hondas abandoned in a field near my
house/center
   ^

 Error: start tag was here

 Line 14, column 6:

   /HTML
 ^

 Error: end tag for CENTER omitted; possible causes
include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use
of an element where it is not allowed

 Line 4, column 0:

   center
   ^

 Error: start tag was here

It is amazing sometimes that a page can work at all, but this is
the nature of HTML. Standards are put in place, then ignored
with a smile and a wink and mostly, the html readers can figure
it out.
William Robb
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Pentax Lens Hood confusion

2001-10-29 Thread Dean

According to Boz's site, at least a couple of the older 50mm K-mounts are 
compatible with the same lens hoods. Specifically, the SMC-M f/1.4 and the 
SMC-M f/2 can use the PH-R49, PH-S49, and the RH-R49 lens hoods.

Are any of the newer hoods available at say BH compatible with these 
particular lenses?  The current rubber hood by Pentax looks reasonable? 
Anyone use this combination or any newer hood with their older lens? thanks.
-dean
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T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-29 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)

Hey guys,

I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
there...

Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
professional color negative papers while T400CN is 
listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
or color negative papers.

I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
still have a good stock.

Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?

Cheers,
Brian
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-29 Thread Paul Jones

Hi Brian,

The shop where i buy film had a letter from Kodak saying they had ceased
production and when there stock runs out, its gone for good.

I'm sure they probaly have a bucket load of it still storage.

Cya

- Original Message -
From: Brian Campbell (PM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...


 Hey guys,

 I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
 the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
 there...

 Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
 is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
 professional color negative papers while T400CN is
 listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
 or color negative papers.

 I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
 consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
 stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
 in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
 in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
 still have a good stock.

 Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?

 Cheers,
 Brian
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Please recommend a very good film scanner with around 2700dpi

2001-10-29 Thread pentaxfans

Hi

I am considering buying a film scanner with around 2700dpi. Please tell me your 
recommendation. I would be grateful if you could show me some scanned examples. Thanks!

Frankie
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Photographers in Columbus

2001-10-29 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

Hi everyone,

I've been busy getting ready for my wedding so I've been away from the
list for a while.  Less that 2 weeks until the day!

As part of my international union of holy matrimony involving Seoul,
Paris  Sydney, I'm rounding out the festivities with a wedding
reception in Columbus, Ohio, where most of my family still lives.  For
the most part, plans have been going well, then while chatting with my
mom (the wedding reception planner) this evening, discovered the little
item of a photographer has been overlooked.

So, does anyone know a sufficiently skilled and reliable photographer in
Columbus to handle shooting candids for 4 hours at a reception at the
Columbus Museum of Art on December 22?  I don't need a super pro to
shoot MF formal shots or the actually ceremony itself (held on another
day in another town), just the candids at the reception - high quality
35mm SLR should be fine.

Collin, I know you live there, are you interested if this is your type
of thing?  This is a paying gig, assuming the asking price is
competitive, and you'll get a free meal with live music by a quartet
from the Jazz Arts Group.

Thanks,
Gerald
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