Re: OT OT OT
- Original Message - From: Jon Hope Subject: Re: OT OT OT I'm afraid I am of the opinion that they got their just deserts. They alone decided on the course of action that cost them their lives. So, you don't believe that people react based on past experience I take it? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: need help with vivitar flash!
Hi Geordie, M is for manual flash, which means you get full output, so you have to expose via the old guide number method. Blue is for auto exposure with a shorter range so that you can stop down more, and red is farther (better for bounce) but you have to use a wider aperture. If I remember correctly, with ISO 100 film, blue gets you out to 20 feet at f/4, and red gets you out to 40 ft at f/2. On the back, set the film speed on the adjusting part of the scale, and that will show you what aperture to use. Blue line for the blue mark on the front, and red line for red mark on the front. If this doesn't make much sense, it's probably because it is way past my bedtime. :-) I'm pretty sure that I have a PDF version of the manual for this flash if you would like me to email you it off list. I'll look. William in Utah. Geordie wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anynone might be able to help me with my flash. I bought a Vivitar thyrisistor 2800 flash awhile back, and I don't have instructions for it, and I conveniently forgot what its functions are. On the front of the flash there is a three position switch, where the three choices are: Blue Dot, M, Red Dot. On the back there are red and blue lines pointing to certain apertures on the flash exposure chart. I'm a bit confused on how to use the functions, and until I drag my butt down to the used camera shop to find an instruction manual, I was hoping someone might be able to enlighten me? Any help would be great! thanks geordie victoria, bc - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photos of Newport, Oregon coast
Hi Pentaxians, A few photos I took Veteran's Day weekend at Newport, Central Oregon coast. The listmembers from the PNW will know where it is. They let me use the tripod in the aquarium, and they are very accomodating to photographers. The photos might not be the greatest, but we had a lot of fun. I think the ZX-5 did pretty well, considering the strange lighting conditions. Some of the photos were shot with 400 iso cheap Kodak print, and 100 and 200 Kodak elite chrome slide film. Lense used 28-70 mm and 100- 300 mm Pentax. Click here: http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/newport.htm Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
At 16:22 2/12/01, you wrote: I'm afraid I am of the opinion that they got their just deserts. They alone decided on the course of action that cost them their lives. So, you don't believe that people react based on past experience I take it? Hi William Of course people react according to past experience. That is a given. That is also understood about the situation. All it does, though, is reinforce my opinion that they (those inside the car) made a complete hash of the situation. They decided to drive as fast as possible from a situation. They decided to not take measures to maximise their personal safety. They alone paid the price of those decisions by being killed in an auto crash. One could say it was a proving of the old maxim, danger is nature's way of eliminating stupid people. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Is there a Pentax digicam which takes FA lenses?
Has Pentax made a digital camera which takes 35mm camera lenses, or are they all point and shoot? Rob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Is there a Pentax digicam which takes FA lenses?
Well, there is a prototype that they have shown. It was about as top end as you could get. For whatever reason, and there have been many metioned on this list, they have put it aside. The current skinny is they will have a lower spec one out by the middle of 2002. But so far all we have seen is vaporware. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: Is there a Pentax digicam which takes FA lenses? Has Pentax made a digital camera which takes 35mm camera lenses, or are they all point and shoot? Rob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
pentax-discuss-digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Mike, she never talked to anyone. More urban rumors...She died on impact...She was ~not~ alive as people tried to get her out...driver, Dodi and Di, all dead. Mafud, It was widely reported at the time (CNN, London Times, CBS) that ambulance workers managed to revive her at the scene. The crash occurred just before 1 a.m.; she was taken to Hospital de la Pitie Salpetriere, where she was _not_ declared dead on arrival. Doctors stated afterwards that they worked to revive her unsuccessfully for two hours. Official Time of Death was 4 a.m. At least three witnesses on the scene and afterwards, including the bodyguard, Trevor Rees-Jones, testified that they heard her speak after the crash. That's in dispute--meaning that nobody knows if it's true or not. Now, she might well _not_ have spoken; she might well have been dead on impact; but there is no way to be positive of that. Given that she arrived at the hospital and was not declared D.O.A., and that the official time of death was more than three hours after the crash and yet the doctors describe their futile resuscitation efforts as lasting only two hours, I'm going to go on the evidence. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
Well, I always figured it was because they didn't want pictures taken of that blacked out limo. Certainly no one was going to get a shot of anyone in the car. But, maybe they just didn't want anyone to follow them to where they were going. If that was it, they succeeded brilliantly. All the furor was (is), in my mind, because no one wanted to admit that the accident was because there were three crocked out of their mind idiots in the car. Of course the public's idols can not possibly be at fault, so someone else must take the blame. And since everyone was insisting that threads like this should not be on the Pentax list, where are you the censors? :) now if that doesn't get me flamed nothing will. --graywolf - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT Sorry Bob. - Original Message - From: Mafud Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. Why was she in that particular situation? Answer carefully, because why she was in a car going 85mph through a tunnel in Paris is very germaine to why she died. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/2/01 2:26:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why was she in that particular situation? She was much more concerned with her appearance than she was with her personal safety, thus, she eschewed wearing that nasty seat belt which might wrinkle her pretty party dress. Answer carefully, because why she was in a car going 85mph through a tunnel in Paris is very germaine to why she died. You're wanting to infer that the people chasing the car were at fault. Let's look at the same situation, but this time, it's a drunk running from a police officer. When s/he cracks up their car, do we say it was the fault of the police officer? Of course not, unless your logic says this: if the police officer hadn't chased them, them wouldn't have cracked up their car. The damn fool drunk driving the car lost control of the car being the of the accident. It was he who was rushing though the streets of Paris at night driving like a mad hare, he whose drunken sotted brain drove the car into the stanchion. **Had the car missed or glanced off the stanchion, she possibly would have escaped injury altogether. But the car ~did~ hit the stanchion and she died because she wasn't wearing a seat belt. As has been previously noted, ~everyone~ in the car without seat belts died. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: OT OT OT
Hi, it at least has some vague connection to photography, via the paparazzi. However, this particular argument has orbitted at least twice before and the pass contains nothing new, so perhaps anybody who's interested in it could refer back to the archives rather than raking over the coals again. One thing it doesn't do is advance in any way what was changing into a potentially interested discussion about the recent French laws, which I haven't seen discussed here. Whoever was ultimately responsible for the car crash it doesn't change the fact that the supercharged emotional reactions to the crash were probably at least partly responsible for the changes in the French law, and that the law was enacted in a hurry. Laws enacted in a hurry are almost invariably bad laws. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't stir the water before fishing - Henri Cartier-Bresson Sunday, December 02, 2001, 9:53:20 AM, you wrote: [...] And since everyone was insisting that threads like this should not be on the Pentax list, where are you the censors? :) now if that doesn't get me flamed nothing will. --graywolf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Sunday, December 02, 2001, 2:03:22 AM, Richard wrote: RS Artur, RS I think it is a problem if the camera shoots at, say, 1/30th, because at RS that speed the ambient light will affect the final photo, almost regardless RS of what aperture I set. It's quite possible to have a situation where there [...] RS Richard. Hah, Richard, If only I had your problems... I am always complaining of inability to do well-balanced flash+ambient shots. But I hate full-flash shots, I think they are just ugly, always. That's a nice example of YMMV... I would consider a 1/30 flash synch speed TOO FAST... I synch usually at 1/15 - 1/8 with 28mm or 20mm lenses, to get as much ambient as possible in background while freezing the foreground. Otherwise, background would be too dark. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fuji Frontier prints from Slides
Saturday, December 01, 2001, 7:38:38 PM, Frits wrote: FJW Scanning the same image and taking the average of those scans cancels out FJW the noise. The noise is random, the picture not, so if you do say 16 scans [...] FJW I am sure they could build this in a lab as well, but it obviously slows FJW down the scanning. FJW Frits Wüthrich But with the cost of Frontier in the hundred thousands E (or $), I don't think they would want to do this :) Actually, the Noritsu digilab has hardwired JPG compression into the scanning step, to save time (and get more crappy pictures) !!! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-L
Hi all, Today, I went to downtown and touched the MZ-L. The following is my impressions; The body is almost the same as MZ-7. The PENTAX emblem is different; 7's is printed, L's is carved. DOF preview is added. The minimum shutter is upgraded to 1/4000. X-synch is also upgraded to 1/125. Cable release is changed. IR remote controller is attached. Pentax Functions are as follows; PF1: AEB value; 0.5EV, 0.3EV, 0.7EV, 1.0EV PF2: AEB frames; 3 frames, continuous PF3: IR controller release timing; 3 seconds, real time PF4: IR controller focusing; not focus, focus PF5: AE-L metering mode; Spot, 6 areas metering PF6: AE-L with shutter button; not optimised, optimised PF7: AF mode with Moving object mode; AF servo, AF single PF8: LCD lighting; auto, on with preview button, off PF9: Mode dial lighting pattern; round, circle, off PF10: Film rewind; total, leaving the head PF11: Built-in flash with P-TTL; master, controller I also noticed that Pentax is now using the term AE Lock instead of Memory Lock. It seems they have changed their term from MZ-S. (645NII and MZ-L, also). Sincerely, Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
Hi, Frantisek, I really can't remember who started this thread, with his post about photographing an arrest! Seems the thread has evolved (devolved?) into a who killed Lady Di thing. Anyway, I should add here that I was commenting on that particular situation. If a PJ (or anyone else) actually photographed a crime (as opposed to the aftermath - the arrest), he would actually have evidence that an officer would have the right to sieze immediately. It would be the same thing as if a passerby broke up a knife fight, and had the knife in his hand when the police arrived. Obviously, the police would take the knife as evidence. But for the police to break cameras, snap cards, destroy film - well, that's just illegal and wrong - at least here in Canada, and most likely in Prague as well. regards, frank Frantisek Vlcek wrote: with the demonstrations surrounding 2000 IMF/WB meeting in Prague, many PJs were abundant. A friend photographed some suspicious person agitating for violence who turned out to be a policeman in disguise... (tells you something about police). He was later apprehended by this policeman in vicinity of about 20 armoured police and the man asked him to give him the film (he was shooting digital, though)... having no other option he turned out the 64mb CF card, which the policeman quickly snapped in half. It was a pity he didn't have a camera with two CF slots, he could have given him the other card :( Even if the PJ had every right to photograph the policeman, the atmosphere was such that he would have been probably beaten and his camera stamped upon had he refused to give over the CF card with the provocateur's photos. You know, a 21 policeman to 1 PJ is not good evidence in court on his side... So even if you have rights, it still depends who is stronger. And that is in a civilised, democratic, NATO-member country... Frantisek P.S there were quite many similar stories... -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
At 21:03 2/12/01, you wrote: Hi Bob Um, I think this is getting offensive... In which case I apologise to any and all that think it so. No more on this matter from me. Erm, if I can't use cheers, do you have a reasonable replacement? :-) Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can Published under license by : Silver Pixel Press 21 Jet View Drive Rochester, NY 14624 USA http://www.silverpixelpress.com Thanks for the tip! I picked up a copy in Chapters yesterday. It's a nice little book. On the other hand, NO thanks for the tip. I ended up spending a huge amount on assorted magazines and books that I hadn't gone in to buy. (no self-restraint) Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Camera body colors
Those of you that seemed to be so concerned about the color of your camera bodies may want to consider switching to Hasselblad. The back cover of the December issue of Shutterbug shows Hassies now available in green, blue, red or yellow. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Jon Hope wrote: Erm, if I can't use cheers, do you have a reasonable replacement? :-) Use boomshanka instead. It means may the seed of your loins have fruit in the belly of your woman. dave bummer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 09:55:25 -0600, you wrote: Of course, 1/60th sucks as a flash sync speed - 1/100th is bad enough. Flash sync at 1/60 is inadequate for people in motion. Here's an example of why I try to avoid slow sync speeds: http://www.photolin.com/C-Image014.jpg This shot used flash sync of 1/60. Note the static objects are fine, but the moving prople are blurred. And they just happened to move a bit as I tripped the shutter. The flash was bounced off the cathedral ceiling. My other shots at higher sync speed were fine. However, there is one advantage of slow sync speeds. Check this out. You'll be amazed. Try to find the two areas of digital alteration - it's pretty obvious. And, no, there was no digital alteration of the baby. It's just got a transparent head, and I've got the photos to prove it! http://www.photolin.com/trans.jpg Happy Friday, a couple of days late. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
I like Cheers. Different greetings and closings give color to the list. It seemed an unfortunate placement after your last sentence. Please continue with it as you desire. Some folks do indeed die due to stupidity. I enjoy reading the Darwin Awards. Some folks die victims to the complicity of others whose motivation is greed. Regards, Bob... Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: Jon Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 21:03 2/12/01, you wrote: Hi Bob Um, I think this is getting offensive... In which case I apologise to any and all that think it so. No more on this matter from me. Erm, if I can't use cheers, do you have a reasonable replacement? :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
Mafud wrote: What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. I do a lot of industrial accident investigation, and have extensive training, and I'm pretty good at it. No decent accident investigation team in our corporation would arrive at this too-simple conclusion. The impact is just the injury event, the final point in a chain of circumstances. There were many factors in these deaths - the impact (or rather the cessation of life resulting from the injuries due to excessive g-force causing massive tearing of soft tissue) is just one factor, and not even close to the root cause. In simplest terms, one must back away in time from the point of injury, step by step, to get a handle on the root cause - and often there are multiple contributing factors, each holding almost equal weight. That's what the French law has recognized - while the Papparazzi are not fully culpable, they were certainly a significant contributing factor. A cloud of buzzing bees could cause someone to run into the street and get hit by a car, even if no bee actually stung anyone. Would the local government then address the bee problem? One would hope so. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
In a message dated 12/2/01 9:03:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the tip! I picked up a copy in Chapters yesterday. It's a nice little book. Hey Wendy! What size is the book now? Before it was this tiny 3 x 4.5 thing that slipped into any crack, or pocket/purse/camera bag. Have they enlarged it to the size someone could sell it? and does it still fit in small places? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? Sheesh. dave p.s., Thanks Paul. Paul Said: Another sleeper you might watch for is a Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 Macro. You want the older version that goes to 1:2 as is, and comes with an optical adapter that takes it to 1:1. It's one of the sharpest lenses I've ever seen. They turn up on ebay from time to time and usually sell for well under $200. Paul Dave Weiss wrote: Hi, I was hoping that the friendly folks on the list could help me decide on a macro lens, roughly in the 100 mm range, prefer 1:1 but 1:2 okay. I would like to take casual portraits with it and an occasional macro shot. My main concern is optical quality. I noticed that the Macro 100mm f/3.5 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens is fairly inexpensive new... any particular reason? Is optical quality good? I had been set on buying a 100f4.0 M. I use to have one and liked it as far as optical quality. I also noticed several Tamron 90 mm adaptall lenses. I have often read on the list that tamron AF are well respected. I would be fine without the AF capability. How are those? There seems to be several variations--anyone know anything about these? thanks dave __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
Hi Dave ... The Pentax A 100/2.8 is a real jewel ... a joy to use, remarkably sharp, very nice bokeh based on a couple of tests. A little spendy, perhaps, when compared to the off-brands and slower, more plastic lenses, but, IMHO, worth every penny. Others may be satisfactory, but I've no experience with them. If you can, try a few and compare the results. Dave Weiss wrote: C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/2/01 9:32:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Use boomshanka instead. It means may the seed of your loins have fruit in the belly of your woman. dave bummer That's not what ~I~ heard. My understanding was boomshanka meant: May the fleas from a thousand Camels invade you private parts. :)) Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
Yah, sure, blame me. g --graywolf - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can Published under license by : Silver Pixel Press 21 Jet View Drive Rochester, NY 14624 USA http://www.silverpixelpress.com Thanks for the tip! I picked up a copy in Chapters yesterday. It's a nice little book. On the other hand, NO thanks for the tip. I ended up spending a huge amount on assorted magazines and books that I hadn't gone in to buy. (no self-restraint) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
In a message dated 12/2/01 9:52:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This shot used flash sync of 1/60. Note the static objects are fine, but the moving prople are blurred. And they just happened to move a bit as I tripped the shutter. The flash was bounced off the cathedral ceiling. Slow flash sync ~always~ calls for panning with the moving object, releasing the shutter in the process, meanwhile blurring the background. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/2/01 10:16:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some folks do indeed die due to stupidity. JFK ordering the bubble top to be removed being one such act. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Camera body colors
I looked at a red one at the Photo Expo. It was beautiful! If only I had the money, I would have bought one by now... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera body colors Those of you that seemed to be so concerned about the color of your camera bodies may want to consider switching to Hasselblad. The back cover of the December issue of Shutterbug shows Hassies now available in green, blue, red or yellow. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
At 07:41 AM 12/2/2001 -0800, Dave Weiss wrote: C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? I've been using the SMCP-FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro for about a year on both my now departed LX bodies and my PZ-1p bodies. An excellent lens that was well worth the $275 that KEH was selling Excellent condition lenses for at the time. David - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/2/01 10:21:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The impact is just the injury event, __ And (along with no seatbelt) what killed her. Everything else is part of the investigation. You'r talking of the extenuating circumstances leading up to the crash. As an investigator coming upon the scene, I would have called in my location. I would then look in the car to determine if there were survivors (or not). Then I'd call for rescue and ambulance(s) then called in a brief summary of what I had observed. (As a former part-time forensic photographer, having arrived, I would have begun to photograph the evidence/scene. What I shot is what I saw. My report thus becomes part of the larger investigation. Any specualtion on my part about what happended would be superfluous and unprofessional). My photogrpahs would have revealed that an automobile, (allegedely traveling at a high rate of speed; thought nice to know, such information has no bearing on what a forensic photograher does), entered an underpass at a hgigh rate of speed. The construction of the underpass (townward sloping ramp that ended rather abruptly in flat pavement) was such that the car bottomed out, bounced viollently-ecoming became airborne, fell back to ground. Careening along along out of control, the vehicle then smashed into the stancion, coming to a rest there. There were four persons in the vehicle, one person was still breathing. the other occupants appeared to be dead or comatose. As I walked away form the scene, retrieving and storing exposed film, I would know one thing with a certainty carved in stone: the automobile hit the stanchion. The resulting impact seriuosly hurt one passenger, and caused extensive trauma to the other three. Summary? A car hit a stanchion and the people inside were [hurt] or [killed]. The lone survivor was the only passneger wearing a seat belt. -30- Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
Sorry Bob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT OT OT You're wanting to infer that the people chasing the car were at fault. Mafud, I am inferring nothing. As I said in my original post on the subject. everyone involved in that incident made bad choices. This includes the driver of the car, the passengers and the people chasing the car (the photojournalists). Everyone involved in the incident is partially at fault. The fact that the photojournalists involved made the news as a story unto itself is evidence that they crossed the line. I don't see this as a black and white situation, where blame can be pinned 100% on one party or the other. To bring it back to the original topic, the French government is recognizing this as well, albeit badly, as Bob Walkden says. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Which 300
Hey gang, I'm starting to think about getting a Pentax 300 /4 or /4.5 prime soon and wanted to get some advice on one subject: How is the feel/control of the manual focus mechanism on an autofocus lens? See, I'm currently using an LX, but I can foresee the day when I move 'down' to autofocus. It might be semi-useful to have a 300 that can autofocus, but not if the manual focus feel isn't any good. Thanks in advance! Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
On Saturday, December 1, 2001, at 01:54 AM, Chris Brogden wrote: You forgot your camera and there is a function you could shoot but you only have access to a 283 with a broken sensor and a K1000, meaning raw manual flash shooting if you hope to get any photos at all. And since the 283 does not have a distance scale, what are ~you~ going to do? We know me and Bill can get along just fine but what are ~you~ going to do without at least a rudimentary background in shooting manual flash? This is pretty far-fetched. What if your much-vaunted K1000 breaks down, leaving you with access to only a pinhole camera and flashlight? Should you really have to be prepared for all possibilities? Personally, I'd rather carry a spare TTL flash. :) But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
On Saturday, December 1, 2001, at 04:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I repeat the question: how would ~you~ handle the situation I proposed? What's the formula to get a properly exposed shot with a broken 283 and a K1000, subject distance 11.5 feet? The formula is get out my Sekonic and check. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts that my exposure will be more accurate than yours, unless you remembered your tape measure. Seriously, you'd go to a professional gig with no meter? Or is that broken too? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:49:46 EST, mafud wrote: Slow flash sync ~always~ calls for panning with the moving object, releasing the shutter in the process, meanwhile blurring the background. Panning helps with slow flash sync, if one judges the speed and direction correctly, just as you say above, but only if the subject is moving in a known direction, and only if you know in advance that the subject is moving, and only if one pans the lens closely in line with the subject movement. Panning using slow flash sync is not much help if multiple subjects are moving in different directions, or, if one does not know in advance that the subject(s) are going to move, or, heaven forbid, if one does not want to blur the background. Slow flash sync is best for static or very slowly moving objects. Panning could help keep a portion of the frame in focus under certain circumstances. A more reliable and permanent solution to image blur caused by slow flash sync is a faster flash sync rate. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 300
William Kane wrote: How is the feel/control of the manual focus mechanism on an autofocus lens? The manual focus feel in the F* 300 mm. 4.5 is almost as good as the one in traditional manual focus lenses. The ruberised focusing ring is wide enough for anyone's needs, and it works smoothly. Probably the same can be said about the FA (newer) version. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photos of Newport, Oregon coast
What great photos! I was on the Oregon coast in September visiting my daughter, who lives in Portland. I totally missed this. It will be on the top of my list of places to see the next time I go there (in January). Your ZX-5 did a great job. I'll be using my ZX-50 when I go and hopefully it will get some shots as good as yours. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography? - last from Cotty
you not only kill much more on the planet with exhalations and gas for your big SUV, but you will certainly kill ANY pedestrian or cyclist you happen to bump into. SUVs are mostly fatal to pedestrians - mostly children (who tend to run into street more than the careful adults - even at just 20 MPH... car culture, car death. In the interest of not annoying much longer with OT postings, for which I must apologise in contributing towards, I'll finish with this one. My 'big' SUV is a 1993 Range Rover Tdi with an engine size of 2.5 litres, diesel. All cars pollute, diesels arguably more so. It does NOT have a bull bar on the front, and one could also argue that most car-pedestrian accidents will have a major tragic influence on the pedestrian. I'm afraid I don't personally buy into the 'cars are safer hitting pedestrians than 4X4' concept. In the Oxfordshire countryside where we live, there aren't estates with kids appearing unanounced into the street, so I put that as a low priority risk. I do live in an area that floods in the winter, and cars become useless, hence the tall vehicle. I used to race 4X4s years ago, and know the Rangey inside out (having built one from scratch) - and yes, statistically it is a safer vehicle to be involved in an accident in. When it comes to the safety of my family travelling about (as they must - only 8K miles per year though), then I guess I *am* guilty of 'car culture, car death' as you put it, but I am certainly not proud of it. When it comes to an idiot in a stolen car with no insurance screaming down our narrow country lanes, and my family in our necessary mode of transport, I'm afraid I unashamedly rest assured in the choices I have made. I'm sure you disagree Frants, but if we want to debate this further, as you said, let's take it off the list. Good light to you sir! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My December PUG comments
Thanks Maciej, I agree with you, the PUG is a useful learning tool. My picture showed to me 2 lessons: -As often happens, closer is better (the image is around 25% of the original). -Never discard an image, there can be something good enough hidden (specially dangerous for digital and 'delete if you don't like it'). Regards, Jaume --- Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my second time I've submitted to PUG and again realised how much I can improve when looking at others submissions. In paricular: The Tower and the (Ghost) Church by Jaume Lahuerta Very nice feel of the photo not of this world - I like the fact that it shows actual situation although it looks like a darkroom/computer conversion. Spooky. Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 07:41:09 -0800 (PST), you wrote: C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? I will sell a Vivitar 100/3.5 Macro in Pentax AF, less the lifesize diopter, for a good price. It takes good photos, and is in excellent condition. Personally, I can't remember the last time anyone made a really negative comment about any 100mm Macro, except regarding price, or arguing the small differences among the best of those lenses. I suppose any 100mm Macro in the buyer's price range will work as well as another. I'd go for the Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro if it was me - hey, it was me, and that's what I bought. The Vivitar for sale was bought for my wife, and she doesn't like it because of some personal preference which I can't remember exactly. She just limits herself to the 1:4 macro of her favorite zoom. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dec PUG comments
Thanks Bob, I am glad that you liked it. Jaume --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just some mentions of photos that caught my eye and have not been noted yet... Jaume Lahuerta - The Tower and the (Ghost) Church - Wonderful nighttime cloud effects over the city and the tower keeps attracting my attention. Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
The formula is get out my Sekonic and check. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts that my exposure will be more accurate than yours, unless you remembered your tape measure. Seriously, you'd go to a professional gig with no meter? Or is that broken too? -Aaron I carry a Wein flashmeter and a Gossen Luna Pro SBC in the bag all the time. It's just too risky to leave them behind on a money job. I need to upgrade the flashmeter but haven't spent a lot of time doing research on the latest models. Len - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
I'm glad to here that. I have been contemplating buying the A 100 2.8, if I am ever lucky enough to find it. What should I expect to pay for one in good condition? Geoff Date sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 07:48:07 -0800 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Which 100 mm Macro ? Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dave ... The Pentax A 100/2.8 is a real jewel ... a joy to use, remarkably sharp, very nice bokeh based on a couple of tests. A little spendy, perhaps, when compared to the off-brands and slower, more plastic lenses, but, IMHO, worth every penny. Others may be satisfactory, but I've no experience with them. If you can, try a few and compare the results. Dave Weiss wrote: C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) Oh yeah? Well, what if all of this happened during an eclipse, and then the power went out? What would you do then, huh? I said, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Me, I'd go home. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Books
What are some of your favorite photography books? For example, favorite book in categories such as these: * essential camera bag reference * historical / biographical * inspirational * field shooting technique * darkroom technique * photo technology (film, digital, other) * (insert your own category) Just your one or two favorites... we don't need library catalogs here... -john - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: exposure comp question
I think you need to be aware of what your subject is and how the overall image brightness may deviate from and average 18% grey. If taking a picture of a snow scene or perhaps a macro that fills your frame with a pale coloured flower, you should increase exposure. Typically I use aperture preferred auto, so that I can control DOF, therefore the comp dial is the easiest way to achieve this and it will adjust the shutter speed. Newer cameras that use multi zone exposures systems do a fair job of compensating for back light and areas of extreme brightness. However, Peter Burin, in a recent test on the MZ-S commented that this camera, as with most cameras useing multi zone metering systems, tend to slightly underexpose frames with large areas of light tones. The example he used was a scene with a large expanse of concrete sidewalk; the camera compensated to properly expose the sidewalk and underexposed the rest of the frame. He used +1/2 compensation to better expose the overall frame. Of course, this is only relevant if you are using transparency film, where the in camera image is your final image. Negative film can, and is compensated for in the printing process. Bottom line is, to create the image you want, you still have to think about exposure amongst a myriad of other things, no matter how sophisticated your camera, This is why I get so pissed off when folks see my images and say boy, you must have a good camera. Cheers, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i read a nice piece on metering light in a recent outdoor photography magazine. the thurst of the article was that to fully rely upon light meters, was to average the light to an acceptable 18% gray scale. the suggestion was to use exposure compensation to move away from this averaging effect of light meters suggested that photographers make decisions about the use of light rather than let their light meters make those decisions. using colors as an example, the author stated that white needed actually +2 stops of light to get what we think of as white (rather than the averaged 18% gray). he also suggested pink, yellow, lime, sky blue, lavendar and tan needed +1 stop over the meter. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The New French Anti-Photography Law
Bob W. wrote: One thing it doesn't do is advance in any way what was changing into a potentially interested discussion about the recent French laws, which I haven't seen discussed here. Whoever was ultimately responsible for the car crash it doesn't change the fact that the supercharged emotional reactions to the crash were probably at least partly responsible for the changes in the French law, and that the law was enacted in a hurry. Laws enacted in a hurry are almost invariably bad laws. Bob, It does strike me that it's an anti-paparazzi law, and I'm not entirely sympathetic to the photographers. Unfortunately there will be innocent victims--legitimate news photographers. It's prima facie absurd to say (as some have done in this thread) that the paparazzi had nothing to do with Di's death. Her chauffeur was actively fleeing them at the time of the accident; 10 paparazzi, all French, were implicated, 7 taken into custody, at least one of them beat up at the scene of the accident by bystanders; all were eventually exonerated in the official investigation when the official cause of the accident was determined to be drunk driving. The public outcry against photographers at the time (which I monitored fairly carefully for the magazine I edited) was immense, and intense, too--even in the United States, there were numerous incidents of photographers, amateur and professional, being threatened with physical violence while photographing in public in the wake of Di's death. It looks to me as if the new law is specifically intended mainly to give ammunition to celebrities when their privacy is violated by paparazzi. I think it's hardly likely that a French court would levy fines whenever anyone appeared in photograph in print by accident; but it certainly makes it clear that if a famous person is pictured against their will, unauthorized publication of the picture will get the publication fined. It seems designed to dampen the market for unauthorized celebrity photographs. That's my take, anyway. I'm glad that's not the way it is in the United States, but if that's the way the French want to do things, I don't think I'm in a position to criticize. --Mike Along these lines, it's been interesting to hear George Harrison's views in the past few days about privacy, public idolatry, and personal space. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Smoking Killed George Harrison
By the way, this is TOTALLY OT, but if you have young children, consider pointing out to them that the famous man everybody's talking about on TV died very young and was killed by smoking. George Harrison was a heavy smoker all his life and suffered from several cancers all related to smoking. The connection between smoking and cancer of the lung, which killed him, is the single best-supported link between a carcinogenic agent and a disease in all of medicine. The life expectancy for a 58-year-old Englishman of means is almost two decades longer than George lived, so smoking may well have shortened his life by that much. It's a good opportunity to talk to your kids yet again about smoking. Sorry about the OT, but since there's no censorship on this list, I figured I'd take advantage. ;-) --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
On Sunday, December 2, 2001, at 12:09 PM, Len Paris wrote: I need to upgrade the flashmeter but haven't spent a lot of time doing research on the latest models. I have a Sekonic L-308b which I quite like. It's small, the readout makes sense, the controls are well-placed, and it hasn't let me down. Around these parts it is fairly common on the used market ever since Sekonic put out their zoom spot meter. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
On Sunday, December 2, 2001, at 12:24 PM, Chris Brogden wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) Oh yeah? Well, what if all of this happened during an eclipse, and then the power went out? What would you do then, huh? I said, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Me, I'd go home. :) I'd probably find a bar, provided I still had some money. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photos of Newport, Oregon coast
Nice pictures - and a nice coast. I'll have to vacation there sometime. Maris - Original Message - From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:51 AM Subject: Photos of Newport, Oregon coast | Hi Pentaxians, | A few photos I took Veteran's Day weekend at Newport, | Central Oregon coast. The listmembers from the PNW will | know where it is. | They let me use the tripod in the aquarium, and they are | very accomodating to photographers. | The photos might not be the greatest, but we had a lot of fun. | I think the ZX-5 did pretty well, considering the strange lighting | conditions. Some of the photos were shot with 400 iso cheap Kodak print, | and 100 and 200 Kodak elite chrome slide film. | Lense used 28-70 mm and 100- 300 mm Pentax. | Click here: | http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/newport.htm | Harald | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: flash stuff On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) Oh yeah? Well, what if all of this happened during an eclipse, and then the power went out? What would you do then, huh? I said, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Me, I'd go home. :) But what would you do if you couldn't go home because Martian Pod People had decided to set up shop in your living room, sneaking in under cover of the eclipse? WHAT WOULD ~YOU~ DO WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT Re: Smoking Killed George Harrison
Mike, please be a good little muffin now, will you? By the way, George attributed his cancer in an interview to being stupid and smoking a lot of cigarettes. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: flash stuff On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) Oh yeah? Well, what if all of this happened during an eclipse, and then the power went out? What would you do then, huh? I said, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Me, I'd go home. :) But what would you do if you couldn't go home because Martian Pod People had decided to set up shop in your living room, sneaking in under cover of the eclipse? WHAT WOULD ~YOU~ DO WW I'd use my fully-automatic, battery-dependent TTL flash to take a picture of them. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
I WOULD go home. To take their picture of course,and make friends. Tom C. - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: OT, and ridiculous...was: Re: flash stuff - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: flash stuff On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But what if both of your TTL flashes broke down, and your film was all fogged by airport x-rays, and your car was stolen and there was a public transit strike? THEN what would you do with no background in manual flash exposure calculation, tough guy? I'd shoot available light, personally. ;) Oh yeah? Well, what if all of this happened during an eclipse, and then the power went out? What would you do then, huh? I said, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Me, I'd go home. :) But what would you do if you couldn't go home because Martian Pod People had decided to set up shop in your living room, sneaking in under cover of the eclipse? WHAT WOULD ~YOU~ DO WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The New French Anti-Photography Law
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston Subject: The New French Anti-Photography Law snip the official cause of the accident was determined to be drunk driving. snip This is totally an aside, but in my neck of the woods, if the driver of an automobile has a measurable amount of alcohol in his system, and has an accident, there is no further investigation. Drunk driving becomes the cause for the accident automatically, no matter what the circumstances are that led up to it. It makes for good politics, because they can trot out official accident statistics regarding alcohol being the CAUSE. In one absurd incident, an unfortunate, and slightly impaired, chap was sitting at a red light waiting for it to change. He was rear ended by a person who was not paying attention, and was found at fault because of his impairment. Good politics, bad lawmaking. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
- Original Message - From: Geoff Moes Subject: Re: Which 100 mm Macro ? I'm glad to here that. I have been contemplating buying the A 100 2.8, if I am ever lucky enough to find it. What should I expect to pay for one in good condition? In my not so humble opinion, the A 100 f/2.8 Macro is the best lens Pentax has ever made. It is truly superb. I had the pleasure of enabling a list member into one last year for a very good price, but they are rare enough, and valued highly enough that they are normally fairly expensive. I thin you can pretty much expect to pay whatever the market will bear for one, and consider yourself lucky to find one. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 24 X 36 Digital Image Sensors
- Original Message - From: Michael Perham Subject: 24 X 36 Digital Image Sensors I was just browsing Mamiya's web site and noticed that amongst the numerous digital backs available for their 6X7 cameras, the two most popular size of image sensors are 72 X 96 and 24 X 36; the 35 mm format. If this size of digital image sensors are so readily available, offering 6.3 megapixals and a 12 F-stop dynamic range, why is there such a dearth of 35 mm digital SLR camera's with 24 X 36 sensors, and such a preponderance of cameras with smaller sensors that require a +1.5X factor using standard 35 mm lenses. I can see smaller sensors in ZLR's (camera's with non-interchangable zoom lenses), but if using a body designed to use a manufactures existing line 35 mm lenses, then why not offer 24 X 36 sensors? Any thoughts? Mike. I think we discussed this a short time ago. It has to do with the way the CCD is manufactured, with the actual sensor sitting at the bottom of a well. The light leaving the lens travels at an angle to reach the sensor, and consequently is vignetted by the way the CCD is built. Are you sure about the 72 x 96mm sensor? The Mamiya is effectively a 7x7 cm camera because of the rotating back design. A sensor with the dimension you mentioned would be somewhat larger than what the camera was designed to cover. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: Re: OT OT OT Arguing extenuating or contributing circumstances only clouds the issue of HOW (why) SHE DIED: no seat belt. The rest is merely idle gossip over the neighbors fence. I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one Mafud. Cheers William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
In a message dated 12/2/01 11:45:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The formula is get out my Sekonic and check. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts that my exposure will be more accurate than yours, unless you remembered your tape measure. Seriously, you'd go to a professional gig with no meter? Or is that broken too? -Aaron Aaron, three things really tick me off: cold coffee, wet toilet paper and a wise *ss like you. That said, you misaddressed the first post then totally ignored the content of the second. The topic was manual flash, not flash meters or even flash meter accuracy. Can we say: Manual flash? Since you've brought your own foul brand of vitriol to the discussion then descended into your 'obnoxious' act, I'll sign off this topic. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 300
Hi Bill, I have the FA* 300/4.5, and use it quite extensively. I love the lens. I am using it primarily on a pz1p and the autofocus operation is very good. The manual focus is smooth and easy to operate. There is not the friction that you will get when using a real MF lens, in other words it is easier to turn, but it does feel solid. Besides I like the focus rings on my lenses looser. The one thing that I ***definetly*** miss on this lens is a tripod collar. If you decide that this is something you have to have, look for the F* version, I believe KEH.com still has one for sell. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pentax-discuss-digest) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1663 Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2001, 12:15 PM Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 10:27:51 -0800 From: William Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Which 300 Hey gang, I'm starting to think about getting a Pentax 300 /4 or /4.5 prime soon and wanted to get some advice on one subject: How is the feel/control of the manual focus mechanism on an autofocus lens? See, I'm currently using an LX, but I can foresee the day when I move 'down' to autofocus. It might be semi-useful to have a 300 that can autofocus, but not if the manual focus feel isn't any good. Thanks in advance! Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
In a message dated 12/2/01 11:46:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:49:46 EST, mafud wrote: Slow flash sync ~always~ calls for panning with the moving object, releasing the shutter in the process, meanwhile blurring the background. Panning helps with slow flash sync, if one judges the speed and direction correctly, just as you say above, but only if the subject is moving in a known direction, and only if you know in advance that the subject is moving, and only if one pans the lens closely in line with the subject movement. John, ~any~ serious photographer, and I'd include the entire PDML list, knows you're correct. That being something we might agree on, the human brain and a little experience calculates all your given parameters in milliseconds and makes the decisions you (we) need to make the photo. Shotgunners, bowlers and other endeavors which demand hand-eye coordination and instinctive targeting call it follow through. Panning using slow flash sync is not much help if multiple subjects are moving in different directions, or, if one does not know in advance that the subject(s) are going to move, or, heaven forbid, if one does not want to blur the background. Again you're correct, given your conditions. But I say the experienced shooter, knowing who and what s/he wants to be or ~is~ the main subject, will ~not~ be confused by all the extemporaneous movement. Slow flash sync is best for static or very slowly moving objects. Panning could help keep a portion of the frame in focus under certain circumstances. A more reliable and permanent solution to image blur caused by slow flash sync is a faster flash sync rate. But... but slow sync is most often ~only~ used on static subjects, the main reason for using the technique being to allow for ambient exposures. But panning is a learned technique which every competent shooter should practice. ***We know that (most) PENTAX cameras, with the exception of the PZ class, all four of whom have 1/250th flash sync, have flash syncs of 1/125th or slower. As I remember, high speed flash sync was instituted by and for the pro camera genre even before the advent of ISO 400, 640 and 800 speed films, the combination of which, with fast, f/2.8 or better pro lenses, did not easily accommodate outdoor slow sync. Fast lenses and fast film forces the shooter to close down their apertures, sometimes to f/22 or smaller, meaning getting bokeh in a shot impossible, especially for wildlife. LX owners often decry their atrociously slow LX flash sync, but for different reasons. -- Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Books
Nice thread! What are some of your favorite photography books? For example, favorite book in categories such as these: * inspirational Jeanloup Sieff '40 Years of Photography'*** Arnold newman 'One mind's Eye' Jane Brown 'Faces'* * field shooting technique John Garrett Julian Calder '35mm Photographer's Handbook' * (insert your own category) *Current Events Amateur Photographer*** PDML! Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Smoking Killed George Harrison
In a message dated 12/2/01 1:19:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a good opportunity to talk to your kids yet again about smoking. Right on Mike! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
I bought my copy in 1991 at Southerland Photo in Huntsville, Alabama. Doug At 10:03 PM -050012/1/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, or at least typed: I'm wondering when the guide went on sale. Through 1997, it was a part of the literature my KODAK freely dealer passed out? Mafud -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/2/01 2:03:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The official investigation by the French government concluded that his life was saved by the passenger-side airbag. --Mike And because he was held stationary by his seat belt. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The New French Anti-Photography Law
In a message dated 12/2/01 4:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very thoughtful comments, Bob. In regard to your last paragraph, the fact such a law would clearly violate the constitutional freedom of the press. And, because the press has lots of money to fight it. One would think that any such legislation would quickly be overturned. --graywolf I think Bush, the FBI Director and the Homeland Defense Minister-err, Secretary, might have something to say about what and which of the freedoms we Americans take pride in go next. What with all the public freedoms they are temporarily whisking under the carpet and have unconstitutionally subsumed already until this war is over, photojournalists and freedom of the press might very well be next. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Pug World
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] The PUG has a synchronicity theme a couple of times a year. I don't see the point to it, in and of itself, although the photos are usually of interest. If you really want to see what the world looks like at a given time, here's one option: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.html I agree with you that the synchronicity doesn't [show] what the world looks like at a given time. However, afaik, only the synchronicity forces a large number of photographers, with very different styles, photographic techniques and equipment, preferred subject and state of mind, to work together on a unique project, and still be completely free regarding all the above... In most photography projects, one would fix either the subject (this month: sea landscapes), or the techniques (today IR photography) or any other parameter which would be somewhat restrictive... The time is maybe the most neutral parameter, and leaves everyone a lot of freedom... So... why not just letting people shoot anything when they want? What does the synchronicity PUG have that the regular PUGs (without theme) don't have? It helps photographers seek for photographic subjects where they usually don't see them... In their street, at work, at home... As a result, the images may sometimes not have the best aestetics and photographic quality in the Synchronicity PUG, but taken as a whole, they give a glimpse of people's lives around the world... For what it's worth, I like it! Regards, Patrice - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Back from Procida
Hi everybody, I'm back home after a two-days-and-a-half weekend spent in the island of Procida, the smallest and the less known of the islands near Naples. I took with me an LX and the MX, in which I had decided to mount the SC-21 screen (from the LX) to have a bit of brightness more. Lenses chosen were the usual KM 50/1.4 and 1.7, the K 24/2.8, the KM 20/4 (used very little, but it's so small I can carry it everywhere) and my new Vivitar 100/2.5 macro. I still had few rolls of Kodachrome 64, so I shot three of them, plus a roll of Reala in the MX. Probably for the first time in eight years I haven't shot a single BW frame... I feel a bit guilty... The wheater was beautiful, only a bit too chilly and windy even for November (in fact I got a heavy cold...). The best part of the weekend is that I was able not to bother my girlfriend to death as usual with my photographic frenzy... The equipment performed well, as ever, apart for the usual strange behaviour of that particular LX coupled with my older AF280T: the flash refused regularly to fire, so I forgot about it. The first field impressions of the Vivitar Series 1 macro are nice. I don't like the clockwise focusing ring, but I can get accustomed to it. It's a heavy and solid-feeling lens, and I hope it performs as I imagine. Strangely, I didn't take more than a couple of macro, or better bare close-up, shots. Not too strange I guess, because I wanted to check the lens performance at normal more than macro distance, but I felt I could have made the same shots with my KM 100/2.8, saving a lot of space and weight. We'll see. I hope to have the Kodachromes back before the next submission deadline. Anyway, it's nice to be back and have tons of messages to read... Ciao, Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My PUG Picks
Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Party is Over by Gianfranco Irlanda, Italy http://pug.komkon.org/01dec/incomm.html Gianfranco i think you have the best hit rate of pics that i like on the PUG. Hi Paul, Thanks for the kind words. I hope to perform always this way... Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG favourites
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'The Party is Over' Gianfranco Irlanda Another superb study. Shots like this either work or they don't, and this one most definitely does! Excellent relationship between the hands. Don't need to see the faces. The cups and things on the table nice and soft - peripheral items that we glimpse and then discard, instantly they tell their part of the story. This pic could only work in mono for me. And work it does. Pic of the Month. Hi Cotty, You are able to make me blush! Really thanks for the kind comment. I'm happy you did enjoy my shot so much. I wasn't even sure to submit it... Ciao, Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from Procida
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: The equipment performed well, as ever, apart for the usual strange behaviour of that particular LX coupled with my older AF280T: the flash refused regularly to fire, so I forgot about it. Welcome home. Remember, the LX in TTL mode won't fire the flash unless there's not enough ambient light for a 1/30 second exposure. It sucks, but it's the truth. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Pug World
Patrice Karine LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... why not just letting people shoot anything when they want? What does the synchronicity PUG have that the regular PUGs (without theme) don't have? It helps photographers seek for photographic subjects where they usually don't see them... In their street, at work, at home... As a result, the images may sometimes not have the best aestetics and photographic quality in the Synchronicity PUG, but taken as a whole, they give a glimpse of people's lives around the world... For what it's worth, I like it! I agree with you, Patrice. Maybe the pictures we see in the Synchronicity gallery are not the best we can achieve or have a look at in the PUG, but I really like the community (in the meaning I've been taught of Gemeinschaft) sense that the Synch gallery can give us. It's a nice feeling, when I'm out there taking pictures, knowing that you guys and gals are doing the same, maybe in the very same moment. Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Inkjet problem
Hi, I am having an ongoing issue with my Epson C80 printer, and am hoping that perhaps someone can help me determine the problem. Please see: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Artifact1.jpg The part circled in red is the problem. Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
I've got the FA 100/2.8 (EX from KEH) and it is my most freq. used lens. The other serious contender was the Tamron SP 90/2.8. From the samples photos I've seen (and my own with the FA 100/2.8) the two are very close in quality. The Tamron may have slight edge as far as bokeh is concerned. Cheaper price and Pentax logo ended up being the deciding factor for me (still not sure I made the right choice). Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'mon, now pdml'ers, one opinion on macros? Do we only talk about digital, gruesome deaths, taxes, etc. anymore? Sheesh. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
On 2 Dec 2001 at 15:37, Geoff Moes wrote: I have never seen one for sale, so I am trying to gage what price I should pay, if I luck out. Can any one tell me what they have payed or what price they have seen it listed at? Hi Geoff, As a guide, I kept the following details from recent eBay auctions of the A100/2.8 macro: 3/04/2000 $870.00 12/03/2001 $554.41 23/04/2001 $500.00 23/05/2001 $626.00 25/05/2001 $528.27 Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from Procida
Hi Paul, I know it... :( BTW, the LX in object is the worst looking one I have. I had even put on it the finder that once fell on a concrete floor (with another LX and winder mounted...), so it's probably a problem of contact failure between the body and the hotshoe (holding the camera vertically, orizzontally it shows no problem, it seems). I also tried to shot when the speed shown in the finder was 1/15s, anyway. The wrong choice was to bring with me THAT LX and THAT flash... I knew it, but I was in a hurry when I put all the stuff in the backpack. Only when I had to shot with the flash I thought about it. Gianfranco - Original Message - From: PAUL STENQUIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Back from Procida Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: The equipment performed well, as ever, apart for the usual strange behaviour of that particular LX coupled with my older AF280T: the flash refused regularly to fire, so I forgot about it. Welcome home. Remember, the LX in TTL mode won't fire the flash unless there's not enough ambient light for a 1/30 second exposure. It sucks, but it's the truth. Paul - Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My December PUG comments
Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Party is Over by Gianfranco Irlanda I don't know exactly why but I love this photo. I think that I'm a blackwhite man so you've gained the first point here but the photo has much more in it. It carries the story, made me make up the plot to it - although everybody can make his own and it can differ from the actual actions. My was a bit different from what you wrote under the photo but I keep it to myself. Great. Hi Maciej, Thanks a lot for the kind words! It seems I've made a good job with this shot, with all these nice comments... You turned on my curiosity: what kind of plot did you elaborate?!? Ciao, Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Books
Bob W. wrote: newly signed (but with his 1971 signature) 1st edition vbg of Vietnam, Inc. by Philip Jones Griffiths. (thanks for giving me the opportunity to drop that one into the conversation :o)) Okay, Walkden, I'm jealous. Cut it out now. --Mike g - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Inkjet problem
Just a guess. When was the last time you ran it through a head cleaning exercise? Tom C. - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: OT: Inkjet problem Hi, I am having an ongoing issue with my Epson C80 printer, and am hoping that perhaps someone can help me determine the problem. Please see: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Artifact1.jpg The part circled in red is the problem. Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dec PUG
Matjaz Osojnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, my top three PUG picks this month are as follows: (...) The Party is Over by Gianfranco Irlanda. Great photo. Yes, as Cotty wrote, the hands tell the story perfectly, especially the relation among woman's hands, caught in the moment of telling the story, and man's calm, listening hands. Less is more comes to mind. Ciao Matjaz, Thanks for the kind comments! If I knew I was going to receive so many positive comments I would have prepared a couple of appropriate replies... :-) You know, after submitting this shot I thought a nice alternative title for it: Talking Hands... Thanks again, Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Inkjet problem
I would try cleaning the heads with the software Epson provides, but I don't know if that's going to do it. Usually, head cleaning resolves a clogged nozzle. This looks like a dripping nozzle. Do a clean, then run another test, then repeat the procedure if necessary. My Epson 1200 seemed to improve after a couple dozen cycles. Paul William Robb wrote: Hi, I am having an ongoing issue with my Epson C80 printer, and am hoping that perhaps someone can help me determine the problem. Please see: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Artifact1.jpg The part circled in red is the problem. Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The New French Anti-Photography Law
Bob W. wrote: If you apply the same reasoning to print journalism as you've applied to photographic journalism Whoa, whoa, WHO there Hoss! I'm not arguing in FAVOR of the French law. I'm just trying to interpret how it might have held some sort of hard-to-detect appeal to otherwise intelligent people. It may have been drafted with the very best of intentions, but it is still a bad law. There ya go. I'm with that. If I lived in France and/or shot for a living, I'd be up in arms. Fortunately for me, I live in the United States and all I do is shoot noodley little art pictures of whatever the hell I feel like, then put 'em away in a drawer. --Mike, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro ?
Dan; Why the negative comment at the end? Is the FA a bit cheap feeling or is it the optical quality that is bothering you? Might you know any difference between the various tamron offerings? Does anyone know what the diffence between the FA 90f2.8 and f2.5 are? It looks like the newer version is a bit lighter? I am getting conflicting information. dave Dan said: I've got the FA 100/2.8 (EX from KEH) and it is my most freq. used lens. The other serious contender was the Tamron SP 90/2.8. From the samples photos I've seen (and my own with the FA 100/2.8) the two are very close in quality. The Tamron may have slight edge as far as bokeh is concerned. Cheaper price and Pentax logo ended up being the deciding factor for me (still not sure I made the right choice). Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Wow, that must be one fast baby and some real fast adults too! Looks more like 1/6 second to me than 1/60. Actually, I kind of like the effect, and I'm note sure I'd like the photo any better if it were static. But, I'll admit I'm weird that way. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Mustarde Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 09:55:25 -0600, you wrote: Of course, 1/60th sucks as a flash sync speed - 1/100th is bad enough. Flash sync at 1/60 is inadequate for people in motion. Here's an example of why I try to avoid slow sync speeds: http://www.photolin.com/C-Image014.jpg snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Books
Cotty wrote: Jane Brown 'Faces'* I thought it was Jane BOWN, no? Whatever, if it's the book I'm thinking of, I liked that one too. I'm sorry I don't own it. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Doesn't the MZ-5 have a setting on the shutter speed dial for 1/100? Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! I think that your camera is actually using 1/100 sec. but the dislay does not have that speed so it shows the next lower speed. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:54 PM Subject: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! folks, I went on a four day trip over Thanksgiving, and my MZ-5 started telling me that it had set the shutter speed to 1/60th of a second when I was using the flash. Since it's normally set to 1/100th for flash, this naturally bothered me a bit. I wasn't sure if it really was using 1/60th, so I got a roll of film developed and it looked fine, so I continued shooting in the hope that all would be well. Sure enough, when I got the other rolls developed, everything was OK. Has anyone seen this behavior in a Pentax camera? Do people think it really is setting the shutter speed to 1/60th, or just telling me that it is? thanks, Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 100 mm Macro?
Another potential sleeper is the Kiron 105mm f2.8 macro. I bought mine for $140 a few years ago and I have absolutely no quibbles about it's quality. Goes to 1:1 without accessories. I think that the A 100 f2.8 macro would be ideal, but the two I've seen on ebay went in the neighborhood of $700. I rarely use my Kiron since getting the A* 200 macro, so could never justify the expense. - MCC At 06:32 AM 12/1/01 -0800, you wrote: Hi, I was hoping that the friendly folks on the list could help me decide on a macro lens, roughly in the 100 mm range, prefer 1:1 but 1:2 okay. I would like to take casual portraits with it and an occasional macro shot. My main concern is optical quality. I noticed that the Macro 100mm f/3.5 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens is fairly inexpensive new... any particular reason? Is optical quality good? I had been set on buying a 100f4.0 M. I use to have one and liked it as far as optical quality. I also noticed several Tamron 90 mm adaptall lenses. I have often read on the list that tamron AF are well respected. I would be fine without the AF capability. How are those? There seems to be several variations--anyone know anything about these? thanks dave __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Exposure Difference: SMC-A 50/2.0, SMC-M 135/3.5, SMC-M 200/4
This is not unusual, it is in fact, common that different lenses and camera combinations result in different exposures. Sometimes it's the camera's shutter at certain speeds, and sometimes it's the lens' particular certain aperture not being exact. The cumulative effect of the shutter and aperture errors can be significant, as you found out. Advanced BW books often suggest establishing film speeds and development times by testing every lens individually at each aperture on the same single camera, and finding where the correct exposure is by bracketing and establishing where base + fog is on the film verses maximum density. Even then, you've only established it for a single lens and camera combination, and it's also quite possible that your camera/lens would perform differently in different auto exposure modes, as well as in manual exposure. I find this to be a pretty impractical approach to 35mm shooting, but certainly valid for larger formats. In a practical sense, you've taken the first step to realizing that you have some variables that cumulatively add up pretty significantly. If I were you, I'd waste a few rolls on a gray card, maybe in the exposure mode you use most often and see which lenses and apertures perform how, and just file that information away in your brain for the future in case you feel the need to want to compensate for it. I would think the biggest factor in deciding afterwards whether it's an issue or not might be the type of film you use most often. With color negative film, it's probably not an issue at all. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brent Hutto Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exposure Difference: SMC-A 50/2.0, SMC-M 135/3.5, SMC-M 200/4 snip The bad news is that the exposures were not the same. The shot at snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: Re: flash stuff In a message dated 12/2/01 11:45:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The formula is get out my Sekonic and check. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts that my exposure will be more accurate than yours, unless you remembered your tape measure. Seriously, you'd go to a professional gig with no meter? Or is that broken too? -Aaron Aaron, three things really tick me off: cold coffee, wet toilet paper and a wise *ss like you. That said, you misaddressed the first post then totally ignored the content of the second. The topic was manual flash, not flash meters or even flash meter accuracy. Using a meter is a perfectly good way to deal with the situation you mentioned, what's your problem? Can we say: Manual flash? Since you've brought your own foul brand of vitriol to the discussion then descended into your 'obnoxious' act, I'll sign off this topic. Who's being obnoxious? If you don't like harsh responses, try not to bait people into them. I believe that he mentioned that he'd use a ttl flash system, and that wasn't good enough for you. He was considerably nicer than I would have been considering the tone of your last couple of posts was basicly Well what would you do without your fancy gear? You'd be lost because you aren't a real photographer... At least that's how it seemed to me, and apearently I'm not the only one... Isaac Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Slide Monitors
Tom, about a year ago on eBay I picked up a used Kodak Caramate for about $50 plus shipping. Joe Has anyone ever used a Slide Viewer/Projector? I have a Kodak carousel projector but it's not what you want to use for previewing slides. I see in BH's catalog, a Braun Novamat 330MAF Monitor. Slides go in a tray. A 8.5 X 8.5 screen flips up to view the slide or it can be projected. Are these any good or is image quality poor like in most slide viewers? Price is $229. Thanks. Tom C. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: kodak photoguide
At 13:15 2-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: Subject: Re: shooting holiday lights [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the tip! I picked up a copy in Chapters yesterday. It's a nice little book. Hey Wendy! What size is the book now? Before it was this tiny 3 x 4.5 thing that slipped into any crack, or pocket/purse/camera bag. Have they enlarged it to the size someone could sell it? and does it still fit in small places? Mafud It's a 4x5 spiral bound, card covered book. So pretty small. They have, however, packaged it in a removable card outer cover approx 8x10 so it looks like you're getting twice as much book for your money. Dinky little book with lots of tables and dials and the peculiar use of the words backlighted and frontlighted. Oh, and you have to know what feet and inches are, of course. Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: push 1600 to 3200
You'll get usable images and grain the size of soccer balls. Bill Robb says pushing doesn't work. Others whom I respect as much as I respect Bill says that pushing does work. The best recommendation I've seen is: Fuji NHGII 800, shot at 2000 and processed with a 2-stop push. This is supposed to control grain best. Supra 800 is also good, but sometimes gives an orange cast indoors. I've unsubscribed, and mail-archive is on holiday again. So I won't get the flames for a few days. Joe I have a very low light situation and was going to use an ilford 3200 but then I though, why not use some of this Fuji 1600 color film I have in the fridge and set the MZ-S to 3200 manually? Any pitfalls of doing this? I can apprciate more grain but can live with that. How many more stops would I gain? 2? None. Push processing doesn't work. William Robb - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The New French Anti-Photography Law
Please, tell me which rights and liberties have been lost? Collin I think Bush, the FBI Director and the Homeland Defense Minister-err, Secretary, might have something to say about what and which of the freedoms we Americans take pride in go next. What with all the public freedoms they are temporarily whisking under the carpet and have unconstitutionally subsumed already until this war is over, photojournalists and freedom of the press might very well be next. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Edith Keiler must die. -- Spock, 1930 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar extension tubes
I use the Vivitars with no problems. My set has the electrical contacts and work fine. However, they are too narrow to couple with the L series teleconverters, so avoid them if you plan to use them with the TC's. - MCC At 10:48 AM 11/13/01 -0800, you wrote: Hello all... Does anyone have experience with Vivitar's K-mount auto extension tube set? What's the quality like? I'd prefer Pentax, but the price of Vivitar's set is about 1/3 that of a new Pentax set. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which 300
I Have the A*300 f4. It's a nice lens but the minimum focusing distance is just under 4 meters - a little too far for some uses (nothing like stalking close to a subject - only to realize you are too close...) 300mm is not a focal length I use a lot, and when I do I usually use a zoom. If you plan to use the lens a lot the F or FA would probably be a better choice. - MCC At 10:27 AM 12/2/01 -0800, you wrote: Hey gang, I'm starting to think about getting a Pentax 300 /4 or /4.5 prime soon and wanted to get some advice on one subject: How is the feel/control of the manual focus mechanism on an autofocus lens? See, I'm currently using an LX, but I can foresee the day when I move 'down' to autofocus. It might be semi-useful to have a 300 that can autofocus, but not if the manual focus feel isn't any good. Thanks in advance! Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax S1a
Just got back from the swap meet and picked up a few filters, a hot shoe for my son, and an S1a body($30CDN). The only niggle is that the frame counter does not reset, only goes as far as 20. Apart from that , it's is in pretty good condition. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photos of Newport, Oregon coast
I like the bridge shot. Haven't been to the coast in a long time, especially the aquarium, after Keiko the whale moved out. I have always wanted to get a VW camper. Jim A. From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:51:23 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Photos of Newport, Oregon coast Hi Pentaxians, A few photos I took Veteran's Day weekend at Newport, Central Oregon coast. The listmembers from the PNW will know where it is. They let me use the tripod in the aquarium, and they are very accomodating to photographers. The photos might not be the greatest, but we had a lot of fun. I think the ZX-5 did pretty well, considering the strange lighting conditions. Some of the photos were shot with 400 iso cheap Kodak print, and 100 and 200 Kodak elite chrome slide film. Lense used 28-70 mm and 100- 300 mm Pentax. Click here: http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/newport.htm Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S and manual focus lens
I am trying to use a 135mm/f2.8 manual focus lens on my MZ-S It fits on ok and when turned on, all seems fine, and I can still use the dial to set the shutter speed, however, I cannot use the light meter as it is alway lit up on the bottom of the scale eg + -- - -- - -- - --- * * * * * * * - Sorry if my ASCII art is a little wayward... how can I use the light meter with a manual lens? Kind regards Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
