Re[2]: Using two AF500FTZ's

2002-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton

Glen,

A flash distributor is used for the old 4P analog TTL flash stuff
(AF280T, AF400T).  For your PZ-1p  645n all you need is a Hot Shoe
Adapter F for each flash (they both go on top of each other in the hot
shoe) and then a 5P or 5PL cord that goes from the Adapter F to the
flash.  You can do contrast control by setting one of the flashes to
that mode.

However, that being said, JCO has given the best advice - run them
manual instead of TTL and use a flash meter so that you can set the
proper ratios.


Bruce



Wednesday, September 4, 2002, 11:18:03 PM, you wrote:

GON Shaun ... what is a Pentax flash distributor and what does it do.

GON -Original Message-
GON From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
GON Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:21 AM
GON To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GON Subject: RE: Using two AF500FTZ's


GON If you use the right leads and a Pentax flash distributor, it should be
GON possible to hook up 2x500FTZ's to any digital TTL camera (i.e. Z-1 etc). all
GON you need is the bits and pieces.

GON cheers

GON Shaun Canning
GON PhD Student
GON Department of Archaeology
GON School of European and Historical Studies
GON La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

GON Phone: 0414-967644
GON e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GON -Original Message-
GON From: Glen O'Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
GON Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 2:49 PM
GON To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GON Subject: Using two AF500FTZ's

GON I have heard both on the PDML and other places that you can use two
GON AF500FTZ's together (I have the PZ-1p and 645n) to get some very pleasing
GON effects using contrast control and also in manual mode by setting up one as
GON TTL and the other as slave (manual). I would like to hear from those of you
GON who have (or have heard of) experience in this. I am particularly interested
GON in the concept of hooking up both AF500FTZ's to the camera in TTL mode. How
GON might this be done. I have some ideas but would like to hear yours. I know
GON the PZ-1p will do contrast control with an AF500FTZ and the onboard flash,
GON but what about two flash units. All input is welcome.

GON Thanks in advance,
GON Glen O'Neal




Shooting Sunrises/sunsets

2002-09-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I'm thinking of shooting some sunrises
(maybe todays?) with a long lens. Maybe
the 500mm or 1 meter lens (hehe).

Seems like a tricky exposure setting.
What do I do, spot meter on the sky around the sun?

What if I use the built in TTL meter in the camera?
Do I point away from the sun to meter. What exposure
compensation if any?

I know one thing I'm gonna bracket like hell.
JCO




Re: PDMLUKII

2002-09-05 Thread mike wilson

Hi Peter,

Get the choo-choo.  In advance, shouldn't cost you more than
about £50 and I can pick you up at Newcastle station for
delivery 8-)  You can spend the interval absorbing some, er,
culture (Gateshead is in for European city of  in 2008) in one
of the local establishments.

mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Second call for participants. 
 
 Mike. I would love to, but with gas now at US$7 a gallon (erk!) I must
 politely decline.
  Unless you plan on flying me up there..
 
 Peter




Re: Shooting Sunrises/sunsets

2002-09-05 Thread Alan Chan

I'm thinking of shooting some sunrises
(maybe todays?) with a long lens. Maybe
the 500mm or 1 meter lens (hehe).

Seems like a tricky exposure setting.
What do I do, spot meter on the sky around the sun?

What if I use the built in TTL meter in the camera?
Do I point away from the sun to meter. What exposure
compensation if any?

I know one thing I'm gonna bracket like hell.

For sunset, just meter off the orange sky without including the Sun will do. 
No filter, no bracketing, but better with tripod.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: FW: Thanks for the input (Was: Need advice for buying MZ-S or MZ-3)

2002-09-05 Thread Jan van Wijk

Hi Ed,

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:34:01 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Ed,

I hope that you are not looking at an MZ-3 to improve your AF
capabilities over your PZ-1p.  I'm not sure there is a significant
difference.  The MZ-3 has a wider area but the AF motor is not as
fast.  Perhaps you should ask the list if you will get enough
performance difference between the MZ-3 and the PZ-1p to see if it is
even worth buying at all.

I, for one, was not aware that you already had a PZ-1p.  From my
handling of the MZ-5n and the PZ-1p, I'm not so sure you would be
happy with the change unless you are looking for a very lightweight
body.

I have to agree with Bruce here, owning both a Z1 (not even a Z-1p)
and an MZ-3 I find that for fast AF the Z1 is superior.

The MZ-3 can be more accurate sometimes, but that depends a lot
on the lenses used and subject pattern and such ...

I do use the MZ-3 a lot with the 77mm and 31mm lenses mainly
because it is a very light body. (feels like half the Z1 :-)

Regards, JvW
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Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?

2002-09-05 Thread Alan Chan

Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same 
thing would be true for a flagship Pentax. Pentax will never recover the 
RD costs, let alone make a profit, on a hot snot film SLR. The whole film 
SLR market is shrinking due to digital. It will go from single digit to 
double digit negative growth as the DSLRs get better and cheaper. The 
window of opportunity for new world class (as opposed to boutique class) 
SLRs closed 4 years ago. Anyone trying to make a case for Pentax coming out 
with a new high end body and line of lenses is a strong candidate for 
psychotropic drugs.

The future existance of film based cameras might be debateble, but I always 
thought good lenses were important. I know Photoshop can do wonders, but no 
amount of sharpening can replace high resolution lenses. Am I missing 
something?

regards,
Alan Chan


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New Pentax at Photokina shock!!

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Brigham

Yessir, introducing the MZ-BS!!!  The new Bacon Sarnie from Pentax, also
available in kit form with the optional CG10 cheese grater attachment.
Fill it with C-31 (Cheddar) or T6 (Tomato sauce) and fire away.

We now know the MZ-D is to be scrapped in favour of the MZ-C.

The flagship MZ-1 has been delayed due to the trade embargo placed
around the delelopment lab RD2 which is in a place far far away by the
evil marketing federation.  The emperor is thought not to want it ever
released, but there is a small rebellion forming on the ice continent,
led by Pal Skywalker and some hairy friends which hopes to use their
powers to guess what the federations plans are in advance and persuade
the masses to rise against them.


Rob

You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.




Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?

2002-09-05 Thread Alan Chan

That was 1985. Only Herb Keppler and Goobers care what Minolta does now.

I doubt it.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: OT: Herb Keppler's article (Re[2]: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?)

2002-09-05 Thread Herb Chong

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Herb,
Resolution test done with real film indicate the performance of the
film
and lens combination. The actual resolution of the lens is much higher than
indicated in a simple test.
The relation ship is
1/final resolution = 1/film resolution + 1/lens resolution.


by this, a smaller imaging element is better than a larger one at a fixed
number of pixels since there are more pixels per mm of linear length.

Herb...




Re: Kiron 28/2 vs. Pentax M 28/2.8

2002-09-05 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

flares, badly. The multicoating is in reality no better than good
singlecoating, and seems to be just two-layer. It produces bright
reflections of the diaphragm.

Sharp? Dunno. Seemed good, but I saw just small prints. From tests:
average wide open, good 2.8, v.good-excellent 4 (center), corners
about one stop more to be similar. However, credibility unknown.

Is yours M2.8/28 really so bad? Some reported it's a good lens. The
one I saw was trully bad wide open, unusable wide open. However, the
Kiron flares. Mechanically, it's average.

HTH
Fra




Re: Michael Reichmann's take on current marketplace (inc stuff on Pentax digital)

2002-09-05 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

JCOC This got me thinking. Do any of the current
JCOC DSLRs have a multi scan mode with low light conditions
JCOC so you could put the camera on a tripod and get better
JCOC noise performance or is a simple long exposure time good enuff to do
JCOC the job?



IIRC, just about any digicam, not limited to DSLR, has this mode.
You need a remote release, and a photoshop or similar software. You
than add together the several frames you took yourself, which is
essentially the same as multicscan in scanners.


Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek




Re: 5n Gripe, I guess

2002-09-05 Thread Frantisek Vlcek


Monday, September 2, 2002, 4:24:41 PM, Rfsindg wrote:
Rac Cory,

Rac I've done the self timer/multiple shot thing with the PZ-1.
Rac It does what you wanted, and surprises the subjects too! g
Rac But it's not a 5n.

SFXn does it too. Try this:

1) set drive mode to continuous.
2) set selftimer.

If possible to combine these two.

Last time I tried, I got a nice first shot, and then two more shots of
people coming at camera thinking it's over already...


Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek




Re: Vivitar lenses

2002-09-05 Thread HUDERER Bernd

 I have three Vivitar Series 1 lenses. The first a Mint 90-180 Flat
 Field, a 28-90 2.8-3.5 and a 70-210 3.5. The first I've used with
 great results to me with the limited experience that I have. The
 other two aren't tested enough to form an opinion. If someone has
 a knowledgable opinion about one, or all of these lenses I would
 appreciate some feedback. They will be used on my MX and Me-Super.

I own a 28-90mm and would recommend not to buy it. It's fast, that was the
reason for me to buy it, but that's almost the only advantage.
I'm planning to sell it.

It's features/bugs:
- heavy
- long
- has a lot of vignetting at 28mm
- has Variofocal, which is no feature, but more a bug: you have to readjust
focus after every change of focal length. OK, it's a one touch zoom but
nevertheless
- the front barrel is turning during focussing; poor for polarizers
- aperture not constant
- expensive; I paid about 200 US$ for mine

Vivitar says, that the Series 1 lenses don't need a correction of focus for
IR films as the glass is special made. But I can't remember at the moment if
that's true for this lens.
There's a follower with available with 28-105, but IIRC, it's nearly the
same construction.

Bernd H.




Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?

2002-09-05 Thread Johan Schoone

Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The future existance of film based cameras might be debateble, but I always 
 thought good lenses were important. I know Photoshop can do wonders, but no 
 amount of sharpening can replace high resolution lenses. Am I missing 
 something?

I don't think so. We may change recording media, but we still need the
lenses to project the images on the media and Pentax glass is *very*
good at that.

Anyone interested in a 67II with a DCS Pro back from Kodak?
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Re: Need advice for buying MZ-S or MZ-3

2002-09-05 Thread Kristian Walsh

The MZ-3 doesn't have picture modes, Michael. I think you're thinking 
of the MZ-7.

I had a 5n, which shares the autofocus and casing of the MZ-3, and I 
now have an MZ-S.

It comes down to whether you want to spend the extra. If you can spare 
the extra cash, the MZ-S is far superior. The autofocus is much smarter 
-- it isn't fooled by dust, smoke or dirt for a start.  The build 
quality of the MZ-S is unmatched at its price. Hold it and see :-)

--
Kristian


On Wednesday, Sep 4, 2002, at 17:35 Europe/Dublin, Michael Cross wrote:

 Actually the MZ-3 does have servo focus.  However, it is only 
 available in the
 action auto picture mode.  Switch the main dial to action and you 
 are
 automatically in servo mode.

 Bruce Dayton wrote:

 Ronald,

 There is a big difference in price between these two models.  Also,
 there is a big difference in build quality and some features.  On the
 AF front, the MZ-S has 6 selectable sensors and has the most advanced
 AF algorithms of any Pentax camera.  The MZ-3 has only 3 sensors
 selectable between spot and wide area.  Also the MZ-S has true servo
 based focus mode while the MZ-3 does not.  This means that you can
 hold down the shutter button all the while panning on your subject and
 the camera will continuously focus.  Just fire at the desired moment.
 On the MZ-3 you will have to constantly press/release the shutter
 button to achieve the same capability.

 Bruce

 Wednesday, September 4, 2002, 12:19:25 AM, you wrote:

 RdL I believe the MZ-3 to have the same auto-focus system as the 
 MZ5(n), which
 RdL is quite fast IF there is enough light. Metering of the MZ5/MZ3 
 is, in my
 RdL opinion, excellent. MZ-S should be about the same but then 
 somewhat faster,
 RdL and the metering is also more advanced. You get what you pay for,

 RdL Rod.

 RdL - Original Message -
 RdL From: mrlighthouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 RdL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 RdL Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 01:39
 RdL Subject: Need advice for buying MZ-S or MZ-3

 Hi All,

 I have a PZ-1P which I like a lot except for the autofocus which 
 seems
 somewhat slow and not as accurate compared to some of the newer 
 cameras. I
 have been looking around for a new camera and have come down to 
 either the
 MZ-S or the MZ3. I know there is a big difference in price between 
 the two
 of them.

 I'm interested in how much difference there is in the auto focus 
 speed and
 accuracy of the MZ-S to the MZ3 and also the Metering accuracy 
 between the
 two of them. I shoot mostly landscapes and auto racing so I'm kind 
 of on
 RdL the
 extreme ends. I would appreciate any input.

 Thanks,
 Ed Wong






New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

I see the list maintains its reputation for solid, unspeculative
research on the possibilities of new models.

An obvious missing possibility, given the nation of production,
is the noodlecam.  Take your pics, then three minutes in boiling
water and there they are, on a plate.  As it were.

Yours,
Heretically, more interested in improving his technique than
adding to his complement of equipment,

mike




Re: SA37

2002-09-05 Thread Camdir


 Microprism field only (that's what it says in the instructions I have for
 the SE-20 screen)
 
 Checking the chart.. especially compatible with long telephoto lenses -
 200mm through to the 1200mm 

David - if I had been awake I should have opened an SC69 or similar box to 
locate that chart, too..

Thanks

Peter




Re: PDMLUKII

2002-09-05 Thread Camdir

Mike.

I don't do trains. 

However, I may reconsider in a week or so. (Thinking).

Peter




Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Heiko Hamann

Hi mike,

on 05 Sep 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

An obvious missing possibility, given the nation of production,
is the noodlecam.  Take your pics, then three minutes in boiling
water and there they are, on a plate.  As it were.

And don't forget the DigiNoodle [TM]: The DigiNoodle allows viewing  
distant images clearly through your 10 macaroni, and with a 1/30 inch  
progressive CCD and 80,000 pixels, gives you the revolutionary ability  
to capture what you see with high-level digital precision.

Regards, Heiko




RE: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Brigham

I still prefer the analog version where you have to dunk your noodles in
a water batch, then a tomato sauce bath to fix them.

Printing digital pasta leaves a funny taste in my mouth!

Oh lord, we are getting out of hand - must be the adrenalin of
anticipation...

 -Original Message-
 From: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 
 And don't forget the DigiNoodle [TM]: The DigiNoodle allows viewing  
 distant images clearly through your 10 macaroni, and with a 
 1/30 inch  
 progressive CCD and 80,000 pixels, gives you the 
 revolutionary ability  
 to capture what you see with high-level digital precision.
 
 Regards, Heiko
 
 




Re: New Pentax at Photokina shock!!

2002-09-05 Thread Fred

 Yessir, introducing the MZ-BS!!! [snip] a place far far away
 [snip] Pal Skywalker [snip] to rise against them.

OK, Rob, so is this thread gonna have more truth to it than the
usual PDML speculation threads do ???  ;-)

Fred





Re: Shooting Sunrises/sunsets

2002-09-05 Thread Kevin Waterson

On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:54:26 -0700
Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 For sunset, just meter off the orange sky without including the Sun will do. 
 No filter, no bracketing, but better with tripod.

Also, I have found the best sunrise and sunset photos tend to
be those with detail in the forground, so do not be scared to
use a flash when shooting into the light.

Kind regards
Kevin
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Byron Bay, Australia




RE: New Pentax at Photokina shock!!

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Brigham

No, its got as much BS as most of the other stuff ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 05 September 2002 12:37
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Pentax at Photokina shock!!
 
 
  Yessir, introducing the MZ-BS!!! [snip] a place far far away [snip] 
  Pal Skywalker [snip] to rise against them.
 
 OK, Rob, so is this thread gonna have more truth to it than 
 the usual PDML speculation threads do ???  ;-)
 
 Fred
 
 
 




Re: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread Jostein



Have you tried the polariser?
Take another look.
Jostein

-- Original Message --
From: Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:51:40 +0200

Jostein wrote:

 The reason is simple. If you measure the diameter on inside of 
the Cokin P
 holder, it's 75mm. I know it is proclaimed to work with some 
lenses of
 larger diameters, but don't count on it. It produce detectable 
vignetting
 with lenses like 645A*300/4, 645A45/2.8, FA*400/5.6 and to some 
extent on
 FA*24/2 and FA20/2.8.


It does not vignette with the FA645 45/2.8 lens.

Pål



.




From the How did I ever live without this? department

2002-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts

I finally bit the bullet and coughed up almost s-s-six h-h-hundred (gulp)
dollars for the bulk slide feeder for my Minolta Scan Multi II.
Wow. If time really is money this thing may be the best money I've ever spent.
Yesterday I brought home two rolls of slides from last weekend's trip to NC. A
quick pass over the light box sent the obvious duds into the circular file and
the remaining 45 slides went into the feeder. Then the scanner did its thing all
by itself while I did other work. Brilliant. Life is good!

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com




Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?

2002-09-05 Thread Steve Desjardins

I seem to remember seeing somewhere that Minolta sells more SLR's than
Pentax.  Of course, Minolta does advertize.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/02 05:08AM 
That was 1985. Only Herb Keppler and Goobers care what Minolta does
now.

I doubt it.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: From the How did I ever live without this? department

2002-09-05 Thread Mike Ignatiev

I am still trying to convince myself I can get by without one for Nikon4000. And it's 
quite a bit less. Why, oh why,
did you have to bring this up on the list?..

Mishka

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 07:58:15 -0400
Subject: From the How did I ever live without this? department

 
 I finally bit the bullet and coughed up almost s-s-six h-h-hundred (gulp)
 dollars for the bulk slide feeder for my Minolta Scan Multi II.
 Wow. If time really is money this thing may be the best money I've ever spent.
 Yesterday I brought home two rolls of slides from last weekend's trip to NC. A
 quick pass over the light box sent the obvious duds into the circular file and
 the remaining 45 slides went into the feeder. Then the scanner did its thing all
 by itself while I did other work. Brilliant. Life is good!
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 





RE: Shooting Sunrises/sunsets

2002-09-05 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

JCO wrote:
 I'm thinking of shooting some sunrises (maybe todays?) with a long
 lens

Hi JCO,

Don't know if this would be of interest to you, but several
multiple-exposure eclipse sequences I've seen use the following technique.
Shoot the horizon earlier in the day, when the Sun is not included in the
scene.  This exposure, of course, would be metered for proper exposure of
the land features.  Several hours later, when the Sun is in the scene, make
another exposure on the same frame -- but this time, meter for the Sun.

For eclipse sequences, there's often a huge difference between desired
exposure for the partially eclipsed Sun and desired exposure for the land
features -- e.g., a filter factor of perhaps 1000.  For your sunset shots,
you may not wish to have as large a difference between horizon and Sun.  The
principle is still the same, though.

Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY




Re: SA37

2002-09-05 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:10:12 EDT, you wrote:


 Microprism field only (that's what it says in the instructions I have for
 the SE-20 screen)

I have the LX screens chart, installation instructions, and screen
compatibility chart at:

http://www.photolin.com/screens/screens.html



--
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www.photolin.com




Re: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread gfen

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Jostein wrote:
 Its is true as has been said about the cokins that they can change colour

Well, my plans to settle on using Cokin filters for most everything 'cross
formats have just been sullied... What kind of time frame are we talking
about for a change?

 You mentioned Singh-Ray; other brands are Lee and Tiffen.

I was under the impression that all these various brands of square filters
could all fit the holders of other manufactures, regardless of brand,
correct? I was thinking about using teh Cokin P holder on my various
lenses, and then starting out with Cokin filters and replacing them as
time (and motivation) lead on...

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Re: From the How did I ever live without this? department

2002-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am still trying to convince myself I can get by without one for Nikon4000. And it's 
quite a bit less. Why, oh why,
did you have to bring this up on the list?..

I'm evil.
(Didn't Doug tell you that when you joined the list? Gotta get him to put it in
the FAQ.)
-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com




Re: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread Jostein




-- Original Message --
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, my plans to settle on using Cokin filters for most
 everything 'cross
formats have just been sullied... What kind of time frame are we
 talking
about for a change?


I've had my gradual gray for five years and the pola for 2 years. 
But just one filter of each kind is a bit small a sample. Maybe 
there are variations in lifespan between production batches for 
all I know.


I was under the impression that all these various brands of
 square filters
could all fit the holders of other manufactures, regardless of
brand,
correct? I was thinking about using teh Cokin P holder on my 
various
lenses, and then starting out with Cokin filters and replacing
them as
time (and motivation) lead on...

Both Singh-ray, Tiffen, and Hitech (forgot that one yesterday) 
make Cokin P -size filters (84 or 85mm). Lee's standard size is 
100mm. Can't remember if they will deliver P size on demand.

BTW, BH has a rather comprehensive webpage on rectangular 
filters, where you can compare prices of different makes for a 
given type of filter. This link may be too long...

http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?
FNC=CatalogActivator__Acatalog_html___CatID=3829___SID=F050E8E2C10


Best,
Jostein.




Can someone do me a favor with eBay?

2002-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts

I'd like to buy one of the CD-ROM service manuals off eBay for my collection but
I don't want the seller to track me to my web page where I offer them for free.
If someone would be willing to buy it for me (no bids so far and only 6 hours to
go) I'd cover the costs including all shipping. This guy posts this CD for sale
all the time so it'll probably go for the minimum of $3.50.
The item is 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1378127776
-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com




Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Feroze Kistan

Hi All,

I am considering purchasing the MZS, but considering it costs the price of a
second hand BMW here is South Africa I obvisouly did some research first on
it, of the sites I came across www.digilander.libero.it/aohc/index.htm had
pics of a DSLR that looked like a MZS with the battery pack, an LCD on the
back but basicly almost like an MZS. Has anyone seen this camera, does it
exist or are the pics fake??? One question for MZS owners, what is the
battery life on the camera, I have a Z70  an K1000 (my grandfathers) and
well I get about 20 36 rolls fore I have to make the battery man rich again.
I shoot pack shots commercially for adverts I design and have been using the
close up filters from kenko on the 38-80 lens that came with the Z70 and now
need to upgrade. Any advice on a good 100mm Macro would be greatly
appreciated. I have to shoot anything from jwellery to cell phones to
groceries.

One comment on the DSLR debate, I use scans from trannies  prints everyday
and always wince when someone provides a image on disk from a digital shot.
Regardless of what camera from the EL1000 to the D1 I have yet to find a
digital image to beat a trannie image. The added problem is lack of
permanance in digital, I will always have my trannies but once the media on
which the image is stored is faulty then all is lost- all it takes is a
static charge to blank a memory stick???

Thanks in advance
Feroze
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Home color neg or chrome process kits

2002-09-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Do any of you guys know if there's a
home developing kit for either C41 or E6
that allows for developing at 75 degrees
F ( 24 degrees C)??

I'd like to try some color with my speed graphic
but there's no local labs that do sheet film.
( I can do BW already but I want color too).

I dont want to fool around with 40 deg C either.

JCO





Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Robert Woerner

Macro Advice:

Get an F or FA 100mm f2.8. They go 1:1 and are superb.

Robert


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Re: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread Jostein


- Original Message -
From: W.Xato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But does the polarizer have a
 color cast when using it?  The Cokin ones in the store
 look green to me.  My Cokin ND grads were also green.

I discovered a colour skew looking at some pictures of a forest interior,
and compared the colours with and without the pola. My first thought was
blue-gray, but maybe I should look again.

Anyway, whether it's blue-gray or green, it's not how it should be...

Best,
Jostein




Macro Lens (Re[2]: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40)

2002-09-05 Thread Mike Ignatiev

I use a VS1 105/2.5 and find it superb in build and optical quality(and it's running 
price is ~$150 on ebay). It's
manual focus, though.

-Original Message-
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:58:23 +0200
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

 Any advice on a good 100mm Macro would be greatly
 appreciated. I have to shoot anything from jwellery to cell phones to groceries.





Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Steve Desjardins

I also endorse this.  However, this will cost ½ a BMW fro a new FA.  Get
a used one or consider the f4 lens which is OK and much cheaper.  As far
as battery life is concerned, the Pop Photo review said about 15 rolls
per two cr2's, using flash half the time.  I would buy the BG-10 grip
which allows you to use the cheaper AA batteries and get twice as many
rolls.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/02 03:52PM 
Macro Advice:

Get an F or FA 100mm f2.8. They go 1:1 and are superb.

Robert


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Re: Macro Lens (Re[2]: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40)

2002-09-05 Thread Christian Skofteland

On Thursday 05 September 2002 16:14, Mike Ignatiev wrote:
 I use a VS1 105/2.5 and find it superb in build and optical quality(and
 it's running price is ~$150 on ebay). It's manual focus, though.

I concur.  For the money it is an amazing lens.  1:1 without an adapter and 
sharp.  Great bokeh too.

Christian




Re: Home color neg or chrome process kits

2002-09-05 Thread Andy Phillips

Hi,

The Paterson E6 kit I use runs at 32C, if I remember rightly. Not too
difficult to achieve using a tempering bath, I would think. However, I
invested in a JOBO CPE2 processor, which is bascially a waterbath with a
rotation drive. This will take 35mm, 120 and 4x5 (and even 16x20 prints)
with the correct tanks  spools. I bought it for 4x5 from my SpeedGraphic,
but it also does a good job with 35mm and 120 reversal film. In fact, having
used it for E6 and found it very easy, I now use it for all my BW
processing as well.

You can get one on Ebay for $150 or less with a 35/120 tank (the 4x5 tank
would be another $50). My local pro lab charges about $4 for a single 4x5
sheet, so this will pay for itself fairly quickly (particularly as I just
bought 500 sheets of out-of-date Fuji Astia!). However, Jobo is a German
make and few come up on US Ebay (I'm in the UK).

The alternative would be to find a Graflex 6x9 roll film back (I use an MPP
back) and use 120 reversal film - you should find this easier to process
locally.

Cheers

Andy
--
Andy Phillips
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Home color neg or chrome process kits


 Do any of you guys know if there's a
 home developing kit for either C41 or E6
 that allows for developing at 75 degrees
 F ( 24 degrees C)??

 I'd like to try some color with my speed graphic
 but there's no local labs that do sheet film.
 ( I can do BW already but I want color too).

 I dont want to fool around with 40 deg C either.

 JCO






Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 Heretically, more interested in improving his technique than
 adding to his complement of equipment,

Jeez, Mike, what sort of photographer are you? You should know by now
that the only way to get better is to BUY MORE STUFF! Don't you ever
read adverts? They're trying to help you.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, September 5, 2002, 11:11:54 AM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 I see the list maintains its reputation for solid, unspeculative
 research on the possibilities of new models.

 An obvious missing possibility, given the nation of production,
 is the noodlecam.  Take your pics, then three minutes in boiling
 water and there they are, on a plate.  As it were.

 Yours,
 Heretically, more interested in improving his technique than
 adding to his complement of equipment,

 mike




Re[2]: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 The hitech ones are much better and are generally regarded as the best
 value/quality buy.

I have an unused Hitech filter holder with 2 filter slots, a circular
holder for polarisers and a 77mm attachment thing. Also an unused
Hitech graduated neutral gray filter. If anybody's interested in
buying them I'll listen to any reasonable offer, to include shipping
from the UK. Replies in private, please.

I've also got one with 3 filter slots and I'm pretty certain I have a
2nd grad. ND (different strength), but I can't find them at the
moment. I can't tell what strength the grad. nd I can find is - it's
not written on the packaging.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, September 5, 2002, 3:11:28 PM, you wrote:

 I have heard many times that the cokin filters are far from neutral in
 colour even from day 1.

 The hitech ones are much better and are generally regarded as the best
 value/quality buy.

 Pesonally, as grads in particulare are used for landscapes where I often
 use the Fa24 or Sigma 17-35, Cokin P is probably too small, and I am
 thinking seriously about Lee.  You can get some combo packs of lee grads
  stuff which look quite interesting and I think I can afford it.  Cokin
 X-Pro is just ridiculously expensive.

 Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: gfen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 05 September 2002 14:10
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Rectangular filter systems
 
 
 On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Jostein wrote:
  Its is true as has been said about the cokins that they can change 
  colour
 
 Well, my plans to settle on using Cokin filters for most 
 everything 'cross formats have just been sullied... What kind 
 of time frame are we talking about for a change?
 
  You mentioned Singh-Ray; other brands are Lee and Tiffen.
 
 I was under the impression that all these various brands of 
 square filters could all fit the holders of other 
 manufactures, regardless of brand, correct? I was thinking 
 about using teh Cokin P holder on my various lenses, and then 
 starting out with Cokin filters and replacing them as time 
 (and motivation) lead on...
 
 -- 
 http://www.infotainment.org
  The destructive character is cheerful.  - Walter Benjamin
 
 




Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Pål Jensen

Feroze wrote:

 I am considering purchasing the MZS, but considering it costs the price of a
 second hand BMW here is South Africa I obvisouly did some research first on
 it, of the sites I came across www.digilander.libero.it/aohc/index.htm had
 pics of a DSLR that looked like a MZS with the battery pack, an LCD on the
 back but basicly almost like an MZS. Has anyone seen this camera, does it
 exist or are the pics fake??? 


It is the now shelved 6mp digital sibling to the MZ-S. The real digital slr is 
expected by many to be shown at this years Photokina show by the end of the month.


One question for MZS owners, what is the
 battery life on the camera, I have a Z70  an K1000 (my grandfathers) and
 well I get about 20 36 rolls fore I have to make the battery man rich again.

From 20-30 rolls. 


 I shoot pack shots commercially for adverts I design and have been using the
 close up filters from kenko on the 38-80 lens that came with the Z70 and now
 need to upgrade. Any advice on a good 100mm Macro would be greatly
 appreciated. I have to shoot anything from jwellery to cell phones to
 groceries.

Anything but a Pentax macro lens is a shame...



 One comment on the DSLR debate, I use scans from trannies  prints everyday
 and always wince when someone provides a image on disk from a digital shot.
 Regardless of what camera from the EL1000 to the D1 I have yet to find a
 digital image to beat a trannie image. The added problem is lack of
 permanance in digital, I will always have my trannies but once the media on
 which the image is stored is faulty then all is lost- all it takes is a
 static charge to blank a memory stick???


Thats why film cameras will be along for a long time. At least until digital is 
significantly better than film in image quality.

Pål





Re: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread Pål Jensen

Jostein wrote:
 
 That's interesting. Is it possible to rotate the Singh-Ray in the 
 holder the same way as the Cokin?


Yes.




Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Studdert

On 5 Sep 2002 at 16:58, Feroze Kistan wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am considering purchasing the MZS, but considering it costs the price of a
 second hand BMW here is South Africa I obvisouly did some research first on it,
 of the sites I came across www.digilander.libero.it/aohc/index.htm had pics of a
 DSLR that looked like a MZS with the battery pack, an LCD on the back but
 basicly almost like an MZS. Has anyone seen this camera, does it exist or are
 the pics fake???

Hi Feroze,

The camera that you saw was a prototype only which was displayed in semi-
operational condition at several photo expos before its development was 
suspended indefinitely. There should be information about it at the AOHC site 
and in the archives at a couple of the more prominent digital camera review 
sites.

 One question for MZS owners, what is the battery life on the
 camera, I have a Z70  an K1000 (my grandfathers) and well I get about 20 36
 rolls fore I have to make the battery man rich again. I shoot pack shots
 commercially for adverts I design and have been using the close up filters from
 kenko on the 38-80 lens that came with the Z70 and now need to upgrade. Any
 advice on a good 100mm Macro would be greatly appreciated. I have to shoot
 anything from jwellery to cell phones to groceries.

I haven't been though a set of batteries as yet however I have had the BG-10 
grip filled with Lithium AA cells on the camera since I purchased it.

 One comment on the DSLR debate, I use scans from trannies  prints everyday and
 always wince when someone provides a image on disk from a digital shot.
 Regardless of what camera from the EL1000 to the D1 I have yet to find a digital
 image to beat a trannie image. The added problem is lack of permanance in
 digital, I will always have my trannies but once the media on which the image is
 stored is faulty then all is lost- all it takes is a static charge to blank a
 memory stick???

Shots from my E-10 are better then the 110 slides that my Pentax 110 SLR 
@4000dpi but not as good as those from my 67. If you expect believe that there 
is less potential for image loss in film then simply have your digital files 
written to film.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Flatbed scanners for 35mm

2002-09-05 Thread TM

Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450
for 35mm negatives?

I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter
and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400
dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing,
unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera,
even at 2MP.

Good thing is that I can save a lot on processing costs by
just having the film developed and then I can scan the negatives
to see which photos are worth printing and just print those.

Taka





Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40

2002-09-05 Thread Mishka

eh?

 Anything but a Pentax macro lens is a shame...

 Pål






Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Margo Ellen Gesser

on 9/5/02 6:09 PM,  Bob Walkden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Heretically, more interested in improving his technique than
 adding to his complement of equipment,
 
 Jeez, Mike, what sort of photographer are you? You should know by now
 that the only way to get better is to BUY MORE STUFF! Don't you ever
 read adverts? They're trying to help you.
 
 ---
 
Hi,

I'm going to jump in here. I just stated my second year of Photography at
the fine local Community College. Today I met with my instructor and
discussed, amongst other things, my bad case of camera envy (I have a MZ-3
as opposed to an MZ-S or one of the high end Canons or Nikons). Dave assured
me that a good photographer with a Soviet-era Practika  can take a better
picture than someone fumbling with a Nikon F5. All you need is a sharp lens
and an accurate light meter. Technique is far more important that equipment,
and that one of the dumbest questions student ask visiting pro photographers
is what brand and make of camera they use!


I think high-end equipment gives a photographer advantages, (and makes one
LOOK like a pro) but does not necessarily make him/her a better
photographer. Which isn't to say I wouldn't joyously drop several thousand
of our measly little Canadian Dollars on some great bodies/lenses/other gear
if I could!

Margo





FX-50

2002-09-05 Thread Bill Owens

After reading the review in September Shutterbug and reading the how to
sheet packed with the developer I'm anxious to try it.  It's unusual in that
it can be used as a single bath, or 2 different methods of 2 bath
developing.  I've scanned the how to sheet, so if you're interested, drop
me an email and I'll forward a copy to you.

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Bill Owens


- Original Message -
From: Margo Ellen Gesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: New Pentax speculation


You're absolutely correct Margo.  It's just that some people are more
interested in the image they project rather than the images they take.

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Hi,

 I'm going to jump in here. I just stated my second year of Photography at
 the fine local Community College. Today I met with my instructor and
 discussed, amongst other things, my bad case of camera envy (I have a MZ-3
 as opposed to an MZ-S or one of the high end Canons or Nikons). Dave
assured
 me that a good photographer with a Soviet-era Practika  can take a better
 picture than someone fumbling with a Nikon F5. All you need is a sharp
lens
 and an accurate light meter. Technique is far more important that
equipment,
 and that one of the dumbest questions student ask visiting pro
photographers
 is what brand and make of camera they use!


 I think high-end equipment gives a photographer advantages, (and makes one
 LOOK like a pro) but does not necessarily make him/her a better
 photographer. Which isn't to say I wouldn't joyously drop several thousand
 of our measly little Canadian Dollars on some great bodies/lenses/other
gear
 if I could!

 Margo







Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Mishka

That's right. Another reason to shoot slides: they project images much nicer
than negs vbg

Best,
Mishka

- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 - Original Message -
 From: Margo Ellen Gesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: New Pentax speculation


 You're absolutely correct Margo.  It's just that some people are more
 interested in the image they project rather than the images they take.

 Bill  KG4LOV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Epson 2450

2002-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton

There has been much written and discussed about this scanner.  I
believe on big reason is that it represents the only choice to scan
medium format at a price point that won't break the bank.

I had tried one in the past and wasn't overall happy with it.  Based
on JCO's experiences, reading many reviews on the web and a real
desire to be able to scan my MF stuff, I have ordered one once again.
I am hoping that armed with more knowledge on how to handle the
scanner and Epson having some time to fix any QC problems, that I will
be happy with this one.  That is my intention.

For those who care, I was able to find it at samsclub.com for the
price of $299.95!


 Bruce




WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread MacBurt

WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
THey claim 3-4 days service.
They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks. 
If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
Do better with UPS.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NY, USA




Color Lighting/Film mismatch question

2002-09-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell


I have a showcase ( HO slotcars ) which is lit
by a multitude of incandescent lights that I
want to photograph with the P67.

If I use daylight balanced color neg film will
the color balance be fully correctable in
photoshop6 or will it be beyond repair?

Anyone have experience using mismatched lighting/film type?

Also I understand that there may be color shifts
when using long exposure times (recipriocity failure)
say over one second. Are these also correctable
in photoshop or are they non-linear and fatal.

I was thinking of using an exposure of about 4 seconds
at f16.

Lastly are some CN films worse than others with regard
to recipriocity failure? I was thing of using Fuji
NPS or NPH. Possible Kodak VPS.

JCO




RE: Epson 2450

2002-09-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Good luckwith it! I'm delighted with mine for MF.
(not bad for 35mm either, but slow).
Good price too. It's amazing at the cheap
prices for the quality of imaging gear now.
I cant believe the quality of my 1280 printer
for only a little over $300 bucks. Too bad
the paper and inks arent free.

BTW, heres a tip to get the most out of your
6X7 negs and slides. I had some freshly developed
TMAX the other day which was buckling in the holder
and wouldnt scan sharp. I placed the neg dead center in the
holder which leaves about a cm on both sides.
I then place two mounted 35mm slide holders
on each side on top of of the neg so that when i closed the top
it would push down the film where needed.
Worked like a charm. BUT, usually i dont have
to do this if the film lays reasonably flat.

JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:04 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: Epson 2450
 
 
 There has been much written and discussed about this scanner.  I
 believe on big reason is that it represents the only choice to scan
 medium format at a price point that won't break the bank.
 
 I had tried one in the past and wasn't overall happy with it.  Based
 on JCO's experiences, reading many reviews on the web and a real
 desire to be able to scan my MF stuff, I have ordered one once again.
 I am hoping that armed with more knowledge on how to handle the
 scanner and Epson having some time to fix any QC problems, that I will
 be happy with this one.  That is my intention.
 
 For those who care, I was able to find it at samsclub.com for the
 price of $299.95!
 
 
  Bruce
 




Re[2]: Epson 2450

2002-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton

JCO,

Thanks for the tip.  I'm hoping that it will work well for me.  I
can't stand not being able to scan my 67 stuff and I just can't afford
or justify one of the film scanners at this point.  Your tip, along
with others I have read will give me more ways to improve my scanning
success. I'll keep you posted as to how it goes.


Bruce



Thursday, September 5, 2002, 5:37:27 PM, you wrote:

JCOC Good luckwith it! I'm delighted with mine for MF.
JCOC (not bad for 35mm either, but slow).
JCOC Good price too. It's amazing at the cheap
JCOC prices for the quality of imaging gear now.
JCOC I cant believe the quality of my 1280 printer
JCOC for only a little over $300 bucks. Too bad
JCOC the paper and inks arent free.

JCOC BTW, heres a tip to get the most out of your
JCOC 6X7 negs and slides. I had some freshly developed
JCOC TMAX the other day which was buckling in the holder
JCOC and wouldnt scan sharp. I placed the neg dead center in the
JCOC holder which leaves about a cm on both sides.
JCOC I then place two mounted 35mm slide holders
JCOC on each side on top of of the neg so that when i closed the top
JCOC it would push down the film where needed.
JCOC Worked like a charm. BUT, usually i dont have
JCOC to do this if the film lays reasonably flat.

JCOC JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:04 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: Epson 2450
 
 
 There has been much written and discussed about this scanner.  I
 believe on big reason is that it represents the only choice to scan
 medium format at a price point that won't break the bank.
 
 I had tried one in the past and wasn't overall happy with it.  Based
 on JCO's experiences, reading many reviews on the web and a real
 desire to be able to scan my MF stuff, I have ordered one once again.
 I am hoping that armed with more knowledge on how to handle the
 scanner and Epson having some time to fix any QC problems, that I will
 be happy with this one.  That is my intention.
 
 For those who care, I was able to find it at samsclub.com for the
 price of $299.95!
 
 
  Bruce
 




Re: Color Lighting/Film mismatch question

2002-09-05 Thread Mishka

This question has been recently (a few months ago) discussed -- Paul ran
into the same problem and was asking whether there is software that can do
the same thing as 80A filter does, you may search the archive.
In a nutshell, you can use FilterSIM from
http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/filtersim.htm, or VueScan for  color
ballance, which would make a decent job.
My own experience is that it can be better done in PS6 (it's quite doable),
but it's a major PIA to do it right.

Best,
Mishka

- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Color Lighting/Film mismatch question



 I have a showcase ( HO slotcars ) which is lit
 by a multitude of incandescent lights that I
 want to photograph with the P67.

 If I use daylight balanced color neg film will
 the color balance be fully correctable in
 photoshop6 or will it be beyond repair?

 Anyone have experience using mismatched lighting/film type?

 Also I understand that there may be color shifts
 when using long exposure times (recipriocity failure)
 say over one second. Are these also correctable
 in photoshop or are they non-linear and fatal.

 I was thinking of using an exposure of about 4 seconds
 at f16.

 Lastly are some CN films worse than others with regard
 to recipriocity failure? I was thing of using Fuji
 NPS or NPH. Possible Kodak VPS.

 JCO








Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  [...] and that one of the dumbest questions student ask visiting pro
  photographers is what brand and make of camera they use!

Other than for general curiosity, I agree...

OTOH, a question I can see having _some_ value would be to ask
someone, What is it _about_ the brand you use that you like.

-- Glenn

PS:  Similarly, when deciding whether to go see a movie, it helps to
know what the friends advising me did or didn't like, not just how
much they liked or disliked it.  More than once I've gone to see a
movie, or bought a book, because the reasons a friend gave for not
liking it told me it was something I _would_ like.




Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Bill Owens

It's not necessarily the fault of the USPS.  Prior to retiring, I worked in
a mail sort facility for a major US airline.  Company management, not the
USPS often closed our facility to have enough people to load airplanes and
said, basically, to hell with the mail.  And to top it off, the USPS was,
after passenger revenue, the largest source of revenue for the company,
generating ~$80,000.000.00 USD in 1999.

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


 WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
 US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
 THey claim 3-4 days service.
 They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks.
 If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
 Do better with UPS.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NY, USA






Re: seek comment on SMC K 45-125 f4

2002-09-05 Thread leesyf


Ho do it compared with A 70-210 f4 or A 35-105 f3.5.




***

A great zoom, good contrast and definition at full aperture (a rare
occurence) and very good to excellent thereafter.  This is from a
test in Camerart (a japanese magazine published in english).  I think
some PDMLers could mention the results of a Modern Photography test
also.  The lens is a bit front heavy and is better handled on a K
body or, better still, on an M body + winder  (or later badies with a
grip.

They usually sell for $100-150 on eBay, a real bargain for such a
lens.  I haven't tested this portrait lens yet for bokeh and flare.
Maybe some other PDMLer have done this.  The third distance scale
found on most of them is for use with an unavailable close-up lens.




Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Kevin Waterson


  You're absolutely correct Margo.  It's just that some people are more
  interested in the image they project rather than the images they take.

This is painfully true, I know this first hand as I am a suffering
technophile. I like to have the latest/greatest gadgets and was
the first kid on the block to buy a MZ-S.
However, for my macros you cant go past my P30n with the bellows.
For fireworks and timed exposures, my array of K1000s is just the
thing. But for most things I like the MZ-S, I purchased it to 
replace a stolen MZ-30 and it is great. The only improvement I
would like to see is faster frames for sports.

What bodies are faster?
What is the fastest PENTAX for spooling off 24/36 frames?

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Kevin Waterson
Byron Bay, Australia




RE: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

 What bodies are faster?
What is the fastest PENTAX for spooling off 24/36 frames? 

MX and LX motor drives can go up to 5fps :)

Lukasz




RE: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Shaun Canning

What bodies are faster?
What is the fastest PENTAX for spooling off 24/36 frames?

LX with motor drive would still be the fastest by one fps (5 fps vs. z-1p 4
fps). I think the MX motor drive produced about the same frame rate, however
I have never owned one so I couldn't be sure.

Cheers

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Department of Archaeology
School of European and Historical Studies
La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Pentax speculation


  You're absolutely correct Margo.  It's just that some people are more
  interested in the image they project rather than the images they take.

This is painfully true, I know this first hand as I am a suffering
technophile. I like to have the latest/greatest gadgets and was
the first kid on the block to buy a MZ-S.
However, for my macros you cant go past my P30n with the bellows.
For fireworks and timed exposures, my array of K1000s is just the
thing. But for most things I like the MZ-S, I purchased it to
replace a stolen MZ-30 and it is great. The only improvement I
would like to see is faster frames for sports.

What bodies are faster?
What is the fastest PENTAX for spooling off 24/36 frames?

Kind regards
Kevin

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RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Shaun Canning

Yes, and mail doesn't complain if it gets bumped to the next flight
either.

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Department of Archaeology
School of European and Historical Studies
La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

It's not necessarily the fault of the USPS.  Prior to retiring, I worked in
a mail sort facility for a major US airline.  Company management, not the
USPS often closed our facility to have enough people to load airplanes and
said, basically, to hell with the mail.  And to top it off, the USPS was,
after passenger revenue, the largest source of revenue for the company,
generating ~$80,000.000.00 USD in 1999.

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


 WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
 US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
 THey claim 3-4 days service.
 They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks.
 If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
 Do better with UPS.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NY, USA






Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Rfsindg

Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!
The postwoman rings the bell and makes somebody sign for it.

UPS is at least 1 day slower, usually 2 or more.
UPS is usually more expensive.
UPS drops the package on my doorstep, rings the bell, and leaves!

You haven't lived until you come home to find your package with an LX sitting 
on the door stoop in plain sight!  You haven't lived until you wait 20 days 
for a package to arrive from west Texas to Chicago.  (I could even follow the 
tracking number.  4-5 days sitting at the origin?, then to Oklahoma?, then to 
southern Illinois, then sitting another 6 days, then 'Oh No, we lost it sir.  
It's not in southern Illinois.'  That's after 2 weeks of calling and 
checking.  So don't tell me how great UPS is...

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
 US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
 THey claim 3-4 days service.
 They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks. 
 If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
 Do better with UPS.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NY, USA
  




RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

And all this when I'm pretty sure I'll be expecting a package soon! ;)

Lukasz

-Original Message-
From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


Yes, and mail doesn't complain if it gets bumped to the next flight
either.

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Department of Archaeology
School of European and Historical Studies
La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

It's not necessarily the fault of the USPS.  Prior to retiring, I worked in
a mail sort facility for a major US airline.  Company management, not the
USPS often closed our facility to have enough people to load airplanes and
said, basically, to hell with the mail.  And to top it off, the USPS was,
after passenger revenue, the largest source of revenue for the company,
generating ~$80,000.000.00 USD in 1999.

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


 WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
 US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
 THey claim 3-4 days service.
 They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks.
 If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
 Do better with UPS.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NY, USA






RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I've never had a package I shipped with US mail lost.
I've never had a package shipped to me either US mail or UPS lost.
I'm just lucky I guess...
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff
 
 
 Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!
 The postwoman rings the bell and makes somebody sign for it.
 
 UPS is at least 1 day slower, usually 2 or more.
 UPS is usually more expensive.
 UPS drops the package on my doorstep, rings the bell, and leaves!
 
 You haven't lived until you come home to find your package with 
 an LX sitting 
 on the door stoop in plain sight!  You haven't lived until you 
 wait 20 days 
 for a package to arrive from west Texas to Chicago.  (I could 
 even follow the 
 tracking number.  4-5 days sitting at the origin?, then to 
 Oklahoma?, then to 
 southern Illinois, then sitting another 6 days, then 'Oh No, we 
 lost it sir.  
 It's not in southern Illinois.'  That's after 2 weeks of calling and 
 checking.  So don't tell me how great UPS is...
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
  US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
  THey claim 3-4 days service.
  They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks. 
  If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
  Do better with UPS.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NY, USA
   
 




Re: FX-50

2002-09-05 Thread Bob Rapp

I read the same article and came away with mixed emotions. It you have a lot
of time and patience, you could come up with a workable combination based
you needs. I tried Diafine 2 bath year ago and I still stick with D76 1:1.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 After reading the review in September Shutterbug and reading the how to
 sheet packed with the developer I'm anxious to try it.  It's unusual in
that
 it can be used as a single bath, or 2 different methods of 2 bath
 developing.  I've scanned the how to sheet, so if you're interested,
drop
 me an email and I'll forward a copy to you.

 Bill  KG4LOV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]








RE: Rectangular filter systems

2002-09-05 Thread wendy beard


Subject: RE: Rectangular filter systems

Pesonally, as grads in particulare are used for landscapes where I often
use the Fa24 or Sigma 17-35, Cokin P is probably too small, and I am
thinking seriously about Lee.  You can get some combo packs of lee grads
 stuff which look quite interesting and I think I can afford it.  Cokin
X-Pro is just ridiculously expensive.

Rob

Oh, I know. I was looking to get a filter holder and a couple of filters 
for the 55mm 67 lens. I almost fainted at the price of the X-Pro stuff.
Needless to say I didn't buy anything. If I had have done, I wouldn't have 
been able to afford to go on holiday so negating the use for the filters 
anyway!

Wendy

---
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Ottawa, Canada
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Re: Color Lighting/Film mismatch question

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Studdert

On 5 Sep 2002 at 20:52, Mishka wrote:

 This question has been recently (a few months ago) discussed -- Paul ran
 into the same problem and was asking whether there is software that can do
 the same thing as 80A filter does, you may search the archive.
 In a nutshell, you can use FilterSIM from
 http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/filtersim.htm, or VueScan for  color
 ballance, which would make a decent job.
 My own experience is that it can be better done in PS6 (it's quite doable), but
 it's a major PIA to do it right.

I would advise using a blue filter of some type with daylight balanced films 
since the level of blue information captured by the film will be pretty low. 
Using an image editor you may be able to compensate for the lack of blue 
information to a degree however the image quality may suffer badly from noise 
artifacts.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Studdert

On 5 Sep 2002 at 20:41, Margo Ellen Gesser wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm going to jump in here. I just stated my second year of Photography at
 the fine local Community College. Today I met with my instructor and
 discussed, amongst other things, my bad case of camera envy (I have a MZ-3
 as opposed to an MZ-S or one of the high end Canons or Nikons). Dave assured me
 that a good photographer with a Soviet-era Practika  can take a better picture
 than someone fumbling with a Nikon F5. All you need is a sharp lens and an
 accurate light meter. Technique is far more important that equipment...

Hi Margo,

I agree to an extent, no picture is good if it is inherently unattractive, 
however there are instances where better equipment will go a long way to 
improving the final image. One example that immediately springs to my mind are 
macro shots made using add on lenses, often they induce unpleasant and 
distracting coloured edge distortions.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Epson 2450

2002-09-05 Thread Jeff



 For those who care, I was able to find it at samsclub.com for the
 price of $299.95!


  Bruce


NO WAY!
I'm moving to the US.

On the other hand, I can get my brother to bring me one in November, when he
comes to visit.

Jeff.




Re: Color Lighting/Film mismatch question

2002-09-05 Thread Mishka

This is SO true. No color balancing can compensate missing blue chanel info.
If possible at all (speed considerations/reduced ISO  etc), 80A filter is
very useful. Or a tungsten ballanced film (ectachrome 160t or similar).

Mishka.

 I would advise using a blue filter of some type with daylight balanced
films
 since the level of blue information captured by the film will be pretty
low.
 Using an image editor you may be able to compensate for the lack of blue
 information to a degree however the image quality may suffer badly from
noise
 artifacts.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html








Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Fred

 Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!

My experience with USPS Priority Mail has been outstanding. Hundreds
of shipments to and fro, and almost always within 3 days max, and
never a lost shipment.  Never.

Fred





Test Don't bother to open.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

See.




Re[3]: Applied SciFi blooper

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

Amen,

At 11:27 AM 9/4/2002 +0300, you wrote:
Mike wrote:

MI Q15: What is the image capture resolution?
MI A15: Approximately equivalent to 18 Megapixels (2000 x 3000 x 3 channels).
MI Digital PIC output is essentially the same as C-41 processed film 
scanned on a
MI high quality DML scanner.

They must be taking their retailers for complete idiots. This is a
meagre 6 MPixels, 24 bits per pixel. I will certainly not accept to
have my film destroyed for as little as this.

Servus, Alin




Re: Test Don't bother to open.

2002-09-05 Thread frank theriault

see what?

Peter Alling wrote:

 See.

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread tom

Yeah, I've never had a problem with the USPS either, prioirty mail
gets there on time or faster IME.

--
Thomas Van Veen Photography
www.bigdayphoto.com
301-758-3085

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


 Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!
 The postwoman rings the bell and makes somebody sign for it.

 UPS is at least 1 day slower, usually 2 or more.
 UPS is usually more expensive.
 UPS drops the package on my doorstep, rings the bell, and leaves!

 You haven't lived until you come home to find your package
 with an LX sitting
 on the door stoop in plain sight!  You haven't lived until
 you wait 20 days
 for a package to arrive from west Texas to Chicago.  (I
 could even follow the
 tracking number.  4-5 days sitting at the origin?, then to
 Oklahoma?, then to
 southern Illinois, then sitting another 6 days, then 'Oh
 No, we lost it sir.
 It's not in southern Illinois.'  That's after 2 weeks of
 calling and
 checking.  So don't tell me how great UPS is...

 Regards,  Bob S.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
  US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
  THey claim 3-4 days service.
  They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks.
  If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
  Do better with UPS.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NY, USA
   




Re: Test Don't bother to open.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

That nothing's here.

At 10:37 PM 9/5/2002 -0400, you wrote:
see what?

Peter Alling wrote:

  See.

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




RE: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Alan Chan

Only 3.5 fps? Oh well, oops. Yes, it's very loud. Makes for
that pro sound at sporting events. :-)

I used to have 2 MDA and did some timing. It's about 3-3.5fps, can't 
remember.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: The Great Canadian Getaway

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

You're taking all the fun out of this.

At 11:49 PM 8/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Well, sort of.
We will be off on vacation for the next couple of weeks. I was
hoping to make it to visit Tom C and meet up with Anasan in
Idaho, but that is just not in the playbook, unfortunately. The
vagaries of having an aging parent makes staying a bit closer to
home a necessity this year.
Anyway, no fighting while I'm gone.

Here are a few thoughts and definitions:

Professional: Yer basic whore. Nothing to be proud of.
Film vs. digital: Don't worry, be happy.
MZS vs PZ-1p: The MZs is better, except where the PZ-1p is.

Have fun, and take lots of pictures. I know thats what I will be
doing.

Be careful of women offering beer.

William Robb


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Re: The Inkjet Printer Reaches Maturity

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

There are Yahoo groups for everything.

At 05:25 PM 8/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
There are several - the EPSONx7x, InkjetEpson, there's one for the Epson
9000 and there may well be others.  Just go to Yahoo Groups and make a
search for Epson - the first 2 pretty well cover all of Epson's printers,
but the others are often more specialized for the higher-end printers.

Maris

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From: Robert Soames Wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: The Inkjet Printer Reaches Maturity


  The reports on the Yahoogroups EPSONx7x list have all been very
 favorable.
  
  Maris
 
  There's a yahoo group for a brand of printers???
 
  RSW
 
 
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Re: Vivitar lenses

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

The 70-210 3.5 is a very good lens, from personal experience.  Sharp and it
balances well on a MX with winder, not quite so well on the MX without and it
simply over powers the ME but that's just my opinion.

At 01:36 AM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I have three Vivitar Series 1 lenses. The first a Mint 90-180 Flat
Field, a 28-90 2.8-3.5 and a 70-210 3.5. The first I've used with great
results to me with the limited experience that I have. The other two
aren't tested enough to form an opinion. If someone has a knowledgable
opinion about one, or all of these lenses I would appreciate some
feedback. They will be used on my MX and Me-Super.

Always appreciative;  Bruce.




Re: Vivitar lenses

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

It will give 1:2 reproduction at 180mm, at least according to the markings 
on the barrel.

At 03:01 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The VS1 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Zoom is an outstanding lens.

Hmm. Sounds interesting. How close does this lens focus?

--
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com




Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

I use USPS 3 day but they can be late.  The guarantee says they'll refund 
you money.
I've found that they're easier to deal with than UPS when they screw up.

At 12:53 AM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Funny, one person has a bad experience and all of a sudden a whole business
service is a proven rip-off.

FTR, I have had impeccable service from the USPS.  Packages arrive within
three days of shipping from all parts of the US (I use a PO box for security
to avoid the expensive things left on the porch syndrome).

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


  WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff.
  US Postal Service PRIORITY MAIL is a fraud.
  THey claim 3-4 days service.
  They use planes owned by airbourne etc. Packages take 2-3 weeks.
  If you have to use The US Mail - ship the cheapest mail.
  Do better with UPS.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NY, USA
 




Re: ZX-M -- Can it take the weight?

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Alling

The lens mount doesn't seem to wear faster than metal but then again it's 
mainly a backup body for me.  I do cradle the lens especially it's a heavy 
one.  (I don't think I'd use a ZX-M on a tripod with a heavy long lens that 
didn't have it's own mount).

At 02:41 AM 8/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:

I have a Tamron 70-210 F3.5 lens, a real blunderbuss without a tripod 
mounting ring (it was manufactured that way).  Am I asking for trouble by 
mounting it on my plastic body mount ZX-M and then mounting the whole rig 
on my Bogen tripod?  It seems that all that weight hanging there...

Also, has anyone had problems with a ZX-M and metal-mount lenses, wear and 
tear on the body mount from changing lenses often?

Best,

Ray




Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread frank theriault

The Motor Drive MX is 5 fps.  The Winder MX is 2 fps.  I've never used the Motor
Drive, but have a Winder for my MX.

regards,
frank

Shaun Canning wrote:

 LX with motor drive would still be the fastest by one fps (5 fps vs. z-1p 4
 fps). I think the MX motor drive produced about the same frame rate, however
 I have never owned one so I couldn't be sure.


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: New Pentax speculation

2002-09-05 Thread Bob Rapp

Sounds just like a Nikon having a good day!

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: New Pentax speculation


 Only 3.5 fps? Oh well, oops. Yes, it's very loud. Makes for
 that pro sound at sporting events. :-)
 
 Taka
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: New Pentax speculation
 
 
 My Motor Drive A for the Super A/Super Program does 5 fps
 in high as well.
 
 I haven't had the opportunity to use either a Z-1P or a MZ-S, but I'd 
 bet they're not nearly as bulky as a Super A w/ MD-A.
 
 I think MDA can do 3 or 3.5fps only. The problem with MDA is that it was
 too 
 loud.
 
 regards,
 Alan Chan
 
 
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