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Re: More ebay madness.

2007-07-31 Thread mike wilson

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/07/30 Mon PM 10:21:31 GMT
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 Subject: More ebay madness.

 As some of you may know, I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II some 
 time ago, which has a  magnificent 100mm f3.5 lens.  Unfortunatly this 
 camera takes 620 size film.  Fortunatly 120 film can be re-rolled onto 
 620 spools and it works just fine.  However I'm on the lookout for 620 
 film spools to have a reasonable supply on hand ready to go.  Look at 
 the price for EMPTY spools in this auction. 

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11Item=170133849423

I can't access eBay from work but I assume the prices are high.  This is simple 
supply and demand, due to 620 spools being quite rare.  The obvious thing to do 
is to manufacture some new ones and sell the excess.

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Re: More ebay madness.

2007-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling

You'd think there'd be enough demand for film for Kodak to make a profit 
manufacturing and selling it too.  But that doesn't seem to be the case, 
at least not in the eyes of their management.

graywolf wrote:
 Seems like there would be enough of a market to make it worthwhile tooling up 
 to produce a few thousand of the things. However at least one company 
 produces 620 by turning down the spool flanges on 120 film. That seems to be 
 the main difference although I believe 120 spools are a bit shorter than than 
 620 spools as well.

 graywolf
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 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 As some of you may know, I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II some 
 time ago, which has a  magnificent 100mm f3.5 lens.  Unfortunatly this 
 camera takes 620 size film.  Fortunatly 120 film can be re-rolled onto 
 620 spools and it works just fine.  However I'm on the lookout for 620 
 film spools to have a reasonable supply on hand ready to go.  Look at 
 the price for EMPTY spools in this auction. 

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11Item=170133849423

 

   


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There's a guy in Massachusetts who does the best job remanufacturing
120 to 620 that I've seen. He turns the ends down trims the edge to
spec. and adds a metal insert so the 620 film advance key matches
perfectly. His product looks like real quality work. He only seems to
sell TMax 100 but his prices are actually a lot lower than BH photo
charges for a roll of TMax 100 in 620. Unfortunately the price
differential, and the ease of re-spooling 120 film to 620, if you've
done any darkroom work at all, means that most long term 620 users will
roll their own which limits repeat sales. I've also gotten a new
plastic 620 spool recently. Not re-manufactured but made that way from
scratch, which also seems to be quality work. That tooling may still
exist somewhere.

graywolf wrote:
Seems like there would be enough of a market to make it worthwhile tooling up
to produce a few thousand of the things. However at least one company
produces 620 by turning down the spool flanges on 120 film. That seems to be
the main difference although I believe 120 spools are a bit shorter than than
620 spools as well.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
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P. J. Alling wrote:

As some of you may know, I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II some
time ago, which has a magnificent 100mm f3.5 lens. Unfortunatly this
camera takes 620 size film. Fortunatly 120 film can be re-rolled onto
620 spools and it works just fine. However I'm on the lookout for 620
film spools to have a reasonable supply on hand ready to go. Look at
the price for EMPTY spools in this auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11Item=170133849423

--
The difference between Microsoft and 'Jurassic Park':
In one, a mad businessman makes a lot of money with beasts that should be
extinct.
The other is a film.
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Re: More ebay madness.

2007-07-31 Thread Peter Alling

620 spools are not that rare.  They are available for $5.00 each from a number 
of sources.  Freestyle photo being one of them, but there are other places that 
sell them and $5.00 seems to be the price most commercial places charge.  You 
can usually visit a garage sale, or flee market, and probably pick up an old 
Kodak folder or box camera that takes 620 film often with 50-60 year old film 
still in it for less than $5.00 get both spools, (and if you're into peeking 
into strangers lives), develop the film to see if there's anything interesting 
that survived.  I'm incredulous that someone would spend more than twice the 
going rate.  I usually check e-bay for these types of things to save money, not 
spend more money.

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 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/07/30 Mon PM 10:21:31 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: More ebay madness.
 
 As some of you may know, I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II some 
 time ago, which has a  magnificent 100mm f3.5 lens.  Unfortunatly this 
 camera takes 620 size film.  Fortunatly 120 film can be re-rolled onto 
 620 spools and it works just fine.  However I'm on the lookout for 620 
 film spools to have a reasonable supply on hand ready to go.  Look at 
 the price for EMPTY spools in this auction. 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11Item=170133849423
 

I can't access eBay from work but I assume the prices are high.  This is 
simple supply and demand, due to 620 spools being quite rare.  The obvious 
thing to do is to manufacture some new ones and sell the excess.


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Re: More ebay madness.

2007-07-31 Thread Scott Loveless

J and C did this. They shaved the diameter and the thickness of 120
spools with the original film still on them. This created a bit of an
inward bend on the flanges. They worked fine initially, but would jam
up the camera when used for take up. I kept a few old metal 620 spools
on hand for take-up and trashed the shaved spools once they were empty.

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