blatant...self serving...s.o.b...
OK- I wasn't gonna do this, I swore to myself that I wouldn't, but what the hell, it's only one more promise broken: The Sovines first cd awkwardly titled "truckers welcome" is now available on Kingpin Records. You can get a copy from me by sending a $10.00 check to Matt Benz, 305 West 6th Ave Columbus, OH 43201 Tho the official release isn't for a few weeks, what the hell. 14 songs. 5 truck driving songs. 9 others. All original. Mostly rock and or roll.
RE: Wedding Marches. (was: Re: Bad Companye)
-Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:36 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Wedding Marches. (was: Re: Bad Companye) [Matt Benz] hmmm. Wish I coulda been more tacky, but we had One Riot One Ranger play "I Walk The Line" at our wedding. Now, I remember 3 Times A Lady by Lionel Richie being played at a wedding, which was certainly an odd choice, since it's about breaking up.
RE: Bad Company quote, URL
I've been told or have read that they were one of the absolute worst live bands of their era. Makes sense to me. Remember that horrible album with Rock n Roll Fantasy? Yugh. Matt "heard his first beatles song" Benz
RE: Ayn Rand (was Neil Peart)
Why don't we discuss the deep meaning behind the Rush song "Trees". Oh. What's that about? I just can't figure...
RE: bluegrass whatever
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What people see or hear in this act, I don't get. Oh, wait, they have women who bare parts of thier bodies. That must be it. Oh jeez, Matt, since when do you start complaining about women on stage showing parts of their bodies? [Matt Benz] Complain? Who, me? Just looking for a reason why anyone paid any attention to this band. "Must be the gams," sez I...
RE: Updates
-Original Message- From: Jamie Swedberg [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Damn, you find the Blacks more painful than a faux-gospel group? Those must not be the Blacks I saw twice at SxSW. The ones I saw totally fascinated me--they really knew how to work a crowd, and made quite interesting music that has held up to many listens to their CD. And that Gina is some kinda talent, and I don't just mean at wearing diaphanous shirts. Just my $.02. I'm as baffled by Matt's opinion as he will surely be by mine. [Matt Benz] Meant to say "as painful." No, the faux gospel was worse. They pissed me off, and I couldn't even talk to em, and at least one of the people I kinda respect and like. So they sucked the most in all the worst ways we've discussed on here so much. I was seething while they played, waiting for them to get off the stage so we could play for a wednesday nite crowd in a stinky campus punk bar with backed up toiletserm, wrong rant...man, do I have issues... The Blacks were boring, showed none of the "crowd working" you mention, staring pretty vacant at nothing, or some spot above the crowd,the singer barely bothering to project, earning the name "mushmouth" from me, and the songs just lay there and died. My pal Ed loved em, bought the cd (which I've yet to hear: all this is snotty opinion is based on this show), so I must be missing something. Now, I have work to do...
RE: bluegrass whatever
On the way into work, heard a interview with Ricky Skaggs on the hated and snooty NPR discussing his BG music, and preforming examples of the "high lonesome" sound with his band, showing the vocal differences between say Flatt Scruggs and the Stanley Brothers. A good piece, tho NPR was obviously being condescending and too east coast liberal about it. Those bastards.
RE: Goose Creek Symphony
And I will confess to digging Neil Peart's solos simply from a technical standpoint -- the guy is friggin' amazing. Plus, it's fun to watch 10,000 16-year-old boys drool at the same time. [Matt Benz] Hell of a lyric writer, too. Deep. Very Deep.
RE: Clip: Kelly Willis
Three weeks ago she appeared on the stage of the Grand Ole Opry for the first time, something she was never able to do while she was making records for Nashville producers. [Matt Benz] Yeh, using those Nashville Producers generally keeps you off of the GOO stage
RE: bluegrass whatever
Sorry, I didn't hear it that way at all. Man, you folks are all up in arms over a nice introduction to BG 101 taught by Ricky Skaggs. The woman asked him questions. "Why would you want to sing like that?" means as "opposed to other styles" re: where did it come from. There was nothing wrong with the segment at all.
RE: Updates
Well, I'll stand in front of Rob Miller's fantastic jukebox there in his living room, in my best pair of overalls, with a haybale, and a feather boa drinking RC Cola, munching on a moon pie, and tell him Jr's right, and what the hell are you doing a "Knitter's" tribute album for anyway? What's next, a Golden Smog tribute album? How's about a tribute album to one of them Merle Haggard tribute albums? And hey, there's this really embarrassing Columbus band: a faux-gospel quartet, complete with fake witnessing and preaching done in a really bad hillbilly accent, atonal harmonies, etc...it's reaally funny, they and thier friends had some good chuckles. They should be signed! C'mon! I'm goin out on a ledge here, but they are truly alt country. The only more painful show I've sat thru in recent memory was the Blacks, who couldn't mumble their way out of the cloud of inarticulate hipsterism (and no, I don't know what that means, but it sounds good!). What people see or hear in this act, I don't get. Oh, wait, they have women who bare parts of thier bodies. That must be it. Matt "New wave dance craze it's still rock and roll to me" Benz -Original Message- From: Don Yates [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 8:14 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Updates I think we know who gets this year's Fowler Award at Twangfest for Most Embarrassing Private Post Sent To The List this year. Good one, Junior!g--don
RE: Updates
-Original Message-
From: Marie Arsenault [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:42 AM
To: passenger side
Subject: RE: Updates
Matt wins Friday's "The Dave Purcell Rant of the Day" Award.
[Matt Benz] Well, it's early, I'm tired, cranky, bitter and
itchy, the coffee ain't workin, and neither is the "everything" bagel. I
believe I match the criterea for a Purcellian attitude
RE: The Gourds and who?
Doug Sahm, I think -Original Message- From: Terry A. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 12:54 PM To: passenger side Subject: The Gourds and who? The other day I was checking out the Austin Chronicle's web-site, and they mentioned that the Gourds were making a record, backing up somebody relatively well-known in alt.country/country circles. And the identity of that person has completely slipped my mind; all I can recall is that it seemed to be a surprising pairing. Anybody know?
RE: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)
Saw Marshall Crenshaw open a show at the Paradise in '92 with a
bitchin' cover of "Flirtin' With Disaster," by the way.
[Matt Benz] He opened his Columbus, probably same tour, with
that song. Didn't Holsapple Stamey open up for this tour? And Mitch
Easter was playing, I think, *and* Dave Schramm. Pretty cool show...
RE: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)
A Captain Beefheart subject heading on P2. I've been hoping that this day wouldn't arrive. It must be some kind of sign. And not a good one. [Matt Benz] And Marie wins the best Dave Purcell rant award, tho we could've used a few more profanities, ma'am.
RE: Summer Teething (was Wilco @ Pearl Street)
-Original Message- From: Jeff Sohn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Beyond the unfamiliarity factor, the audience simply wanted the old Wilco back. Even the Mermaid Avenue constitutes as old Wilco these days. Not to say that the crowd didn't respond positively to some of ST but when the band dished out the old, the audience responded. And ONLY THEN did the band seem loose. Maybe they're still trying to feel their way around the new material. [Matt Benz] Ok, but how is this different from how audiences typically respond to an act that has several albums to its credit? Isn't the history of rock music littered with stories of bands trying to do something they find artistically different and pleasing, only to have the audience scream for "Satisfaction!" "You Really Got Me!" "Radio Free Europe!" "Chickamauga!" "What's with this opera shit? Play fuckin' My Generation!" etc..
RE: Hecklers, was: Wilco @ Pearl Street
-Original Message-
From: David Cantwell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Lose the 'tude, dude."
A good shut up line, no doubt, but if reversed and shouted at Rollins
instead, it would make a more than appropriate heckle. --david
cantwell
[Matt Benz]
A heh heh heh.
RE: Era of Perfect Singles
Ah yes: A battered van careens westward bound; headaches abound, sleeping bag over my head to escape the smoke and the insistent chatter from the front seats, driver punching the radio tuner again and again as 90's crap-rock, depressing, moronic and slack-jawed beats relentlessly,overwhelming the dial, the bluegrass station having faded. Suddenly, a bright crackle of jangly guitars, and in the millisecond before dumbass changes the station, my brain scans the riff, the sound of a million songs, I just know it's one I want to hear, then the vocal, and me and the other old guy bark: "Hey the Rasberries, don't change the station". One of them perfect singles "I Wanna Be With You" and for the next 2 minutes and fifty seconds, that old van, dangerously on its last legs, with plates from another car and no registration, (as the PA cops discovered and 3/4's of the band! but that's another story) was a good place to be, and the sleeping bag came off the head and I lived a little...
RE: Ray's tenor harmony man....
He's the one I saw talking about his harmony singing days with Ray on Backstage at the Opry aways back -Original Message- From: Brad Bechtel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:52 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Ray's tenor harmony man According to the liner notes in Hillbilly Fever, volume 3: Legends of Nashville, the harmony vocal was sung by guitarist Van Howard on the song "Crazy Arms". He probably did many of the other harmony vocals as well.
RE: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s
er...ahm.I made these all up. But yeh, maybe it should be an album Sorry. I'm sure I have a real list somewhere.. M -Original Message- From: Michele Flannery [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 6:00 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s Tell me more!! Are these performed by various Kill Rock Stars-like bands? Or is it just the title I find so appealing. - Michele From the underappreciated list of Matt Benz- "Pedal Steel Favorites Played on The Accordion" -Various Artists (Kill Rock Stars) '93
RE: Era of Perfect Singles
The "era of the single" died when they stopped making 45's, IMHO. The switch to those horrid little cassette's in the mid 80's and then the "cd single" killed the single. I know, I know, a single is a song released to radio, but who cares anymore? The 45 stood on its own as a concept. They're still fun to buy: I just picked up some old James Brown singles on the King label (a purple label, and one with his face on it) and a couple Al Green on Hi. I don't even need to hear em: just to look at em is perfect. Who even sees "cassingles" on the market anymore? Who'd want em? Then again, maybe I'm getting old. -Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 7:25 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Era of Perfect Singles CK archly suggests: hope you're not suggesting that the list of 50's and 60's era singles are somehow superior to the singles of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Since that would be wrong. g No, but as several pointed out, the era in which the single ruled was drawing to a close in the 70s and early 80s. As a medium, as an institution (running out to buy 45 rpm records by major artists, actually playing them, etc...), as a way to conceptualize the writing, arranging, production, etc., of a piece of music, they really mark an era. In that sense, it's fair to say there was indeed an "era" of the single which is long over I certainly wouldn't suggest the music of one period is superior to that of another, but that there was a period during which the 45 medium dominated the airwaves and determined a lot of things about both the production and reception of pop music, I think there is little doubt. Smart-ass youngun! g --junior
RE: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s
Ed Mann - "Mann-wich"/"Mann Walks Among Us" ( (Polydor) '90'91, re-released as a double album in '98 The Ubangi's- "Stompin' All Over The World" (Dust) '96 "Pedal Steel Favorites Played on The Accordion" -Various Artists (Kill Rock Stars) '93 The Clowns For Hire:"I'm gonna live slow, die soft, and everyone's gonna forget about me" (Illustrious UK) '97 Albert O. -"Oh, ALBERT!" (Krankshaften) '95
RE: Frosting On The Beater(was re: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s)
Wow.. Best rant I read in a long time, Don. That's it, open up a can a whupass all over those popheads!
RE: Lessons Learned
And guess who just got one of the few original copies of the Texas Declaration on Independence? That's right, the OHIO Historical Society. Came in a collection from a family who lived in OH forever and TX. Pretty cool. I think, anyway... Matt "rock you like a hurricane" Benz -Original Message- From: Joe Gracey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 6:03 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Lessons Learned Jerry Curry wrote:
Questionable Bloodshot Releasesg
Ok- So a group of us are wondering: what the hell is there gonna be a Knitters tribute album for? That doesn't make much sense. What are they gonna cover, John Doe covering Merle? These are the important questions we need to be asking. Matt "don't do me like that" Benz
RE: Khaki Country
That's actually what I find to be the real puzzle here. He's convering a *Queen* song, fercrinity. How the hell does that happen? No word if Dwight's gonna go the jump suit/chest hair route. [Matt Benz] Well, Ms. Neko Case covered a Queen song, and quite successfully, and thankfully, didn't go the hair chest route, either. (!) Matt "Killer Qunnn" Benz
RE: Khaki Country
I love it. Queen records a goofy take on country, only to see it
redone
(and redone well) by Dwight almost two decades later. Speaking of the
Gap ads, I'm happy the khaki soul ad uses Bill Withers's "Lovely Day".
I love Bill Withers.
[Matt Benz] Yep. Dwight's version sounds great to these ears,
and I wouldn't mind hearing the whole thing.
We should all just admit we love GAP ads. We all watch em. Admit
it. Good lookin people, cool music, and nice pants. I'd be wearing em
now if they didn't cost so damn much. Got the Target version instead.
Matt "dynamite with a laser beam" Benz
RE: the sidemen thread
FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
RE: the sidemen thread, singles, ect...
I confess to not being able to follow the thread much, so never mind if I'm off base. Just pickin those nits. As for singles, there is a pretty good book (by David Marsh?) of best singles (rock and pop) and it is a -of course completely subjective listing of great singles and why. A good read, inspires you to go back and listen to say "Ticket To Ride" again... Singles generally conjure up time and place, particulary summer singles, so of course to pick the best means to pull together not just perfect musical moments, but personal moments as well and combine em for a swell experience. "It's So Nice To Be With You" qualifies for me, tho the song ain't so hot. I still can't hear it without hearing the crackling sounds of the 45 we had. But you're all talking punk and new wave singles, ain't ya? Lords of the New Church: Open Your Eyes, 1983. -Original Message- From: Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:43 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: the sidemen thread Well, I suppose...but I think the general rule to the voting process was that there really weren't any? True, a band doesn't fit the desription of "sidemen", but what the hey? A nod to the godesses...what about sidewomen? Not sure where you're going with the whole pay issue? But, I guess it'll be something for the powers that be to decide. g Either way, 'tis not a big deal, just me 2 cents... morgan At 01:08 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
RE: Sir Doug Sahm:
That would be it. Thanks Derek and Jim. Stay on the line, we'll get your addresses, and get your prizes out to you. M -Original Message- From: Derek Sampson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:27 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Sir Doug Sahm: From: Matt Benz They played a Sir Douglas Quintet song (Not "She's About A Mover") I'd never heard before, to my recollection, which is growing dimmer. Something about "rain rain rain." ANy ideas? Hmm, that could be "The Rains came" released back in 1965 and again in '66. Not sure though... Derek http://www.buckdiaz.com
RE: Weller's Prime
The Jam would say outragous things just to piss the Clash off... -Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 2:49 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Weller's Prime Joonyah says: Weren't there political (or "pop-political" to be more accurate) distinctions to be made between the Clash and the Jam back in the day? Dunno where the Clash fit in - not my cup of tea, you might say - but Weller was pretty heavily involved with the Labor Party-related Red Wedge, at least during his Style Council days. Or so my not-always-reliable memory tells me, anyhow. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
This will get my ass to a large venue: Do they do it in COlumbus, let me hear ya!
Just found out the original J. Geils Band is coming to Columbus to play this over-priced shithole called Polaris. One of 15 shows. I will be there, despite Polaris and my sworn oaths. Some fine houseparty moments over the years, courtesy the JGB, and they got off the plane I was getting on once long long ago in Spokane WA Lookin for a love. Matt
RE: This will get my ass to a large venue: Do they do it in COlumbus, let me hear ya!
The lineup listed everyone *but* Steven Bladd. He might well be included, but Wof, Geils, Dick, and Justman are defintely on board, as is the bass player. It was his run in with an ex in a mag inspired that nice pop hit of theirs. I remember when Centerfold came out, all I was aware of was Love Stinks till I heard a radio program on the band which played all those wonderful 70's hits that I had forgotten about. I soon had all their albums, most tragically lost in a later move across country. Recently heard the first -my personal fave- again, and got the jones back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 4:25 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: This will get my ass to a large venue: Do they do it in COlumbus, let me hear ya! Matt Benz writes: Just found out the original J. Geils Band is coming to Columbus to play this over-priced shithole called Polaris. One of 15 shows. I will be there, despite Polaris and my sworn oaths. This has been in the rumor mill for a few months around here. There have been at *least* a half-dozen serious attempts to put the band back together in the past ten years. The main problem, as I understand it, has been some lingering hard feelings between Peter Wolf and Seth Justman. Should be a good time. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
RE: The Stones/more blues than twang
Seen the Kinks more than any other band I think, from a fantastic show with the original Pretenders opening in Denver, to a sad plodding show in Columbus a few years back. Great band, only English 60's era group I came close to having all the albums. But I love them 60's Stones
RE: Greetings from WAY down south
Live performances are, of course, out of the question, though I may just be the only P2-er to have seen the Byrds live with Gram-replacement roadie Carlos Bernal in tow - the infamous 1968 safari. Bernal spent the entire show with his back to the audience, except for a couple of brief moments when he seemed either totally bewildered or hopelessly stoned, or both. Whatever, he definitely didn't know all the chords. I guess not many of us can claim first hand experience of so off the wall a rock 'n' roll footnote. [Matt Benz] Now that is a story we haven't heard yet! Carlos Bernal not knowing the songs still had to be better than suffering thru Crosby.
RE: Greetings from WAY down south
-Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:30 AM Anyhow, have any of you listened to the "hidden track" studio stuff on those Byrds re-releases. I was just thinking of Crosby the other night after listening (and laughing a lot) at the studio fight that's a hidden track at the end of "Notorious Byrd Brothers." Mainly Crosby dogging Michael Clarke about a drum part, but it just goes on and on and on The producer, Usher, tries to intervene and get them back on track, but nooo, etc. [Matt Benz] I haven't got that one yet (tho I've heard about that studio fight: I believe it is included on those "celebrity losing it" tapes that make the rounds), but the one at the end of "5D" is painful: McGuinn and the Walrus talking about the *new* album. Yn. I don't know how long it is, something like 11 minutes. I don't know who would listen to it, even among diehard fans... --junior
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Best Of, Golden Hits, etc. are widely available and cheap, and, IMO,
the
"duh" starting point for Miller as a performer - after all, these
songs
("King Of The Road," "Dang Me," "Do Wacka Do," "You Can't Rollerskate
In A
Buffalo Herd," "England Swings," etc.) are some of the most
monstrously
successful ever made. Plus which, they're really good. I like the
Country
Tunesmith collection pretty well, too, but it's definitely an "after"
buy,
as is anything else.
[Matt Benz] Well, sure, I didn't mean to mislead someone by
suggesting a more in depth collection than "Golden Hits," or any of
those cheapo shoody looking collections, but knowing how folks around
here like to dive in head first, suggesting a more comprehensive
collection didn't seem to be any less of a "duh" starting point. If
someone wants to stay in the shallow but hit-filled send of the Roger
Miller pool, then I guess I suggest finding a used vinyl copy of Golden
Hits, which might run ya .25.
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
-Original Message-
From: Matt Benz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 9:24 AM
To: passenger side
Subject: RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
[Matt Benz] Well, sure, I didn't mean to mislead someone by
suggesting a more in depth collection than "Golden Hits," or any of
those cheapo shoody
[Matt Benz]
"Shoody:""not up to par." Worse than shoddy, but not as bad
as "poopy."
someone wants to stay in the shallow but hit-filled send of the Roger
Miller pool,
[Matt Benz] "send:" there is no actual literal translation of
this bit of Benz-type; scholars generally agree that "send" might
actually be a misprint (Drew, 1998), although it has been suggested by
the more radical members of the field to be a sort of code
(Taylor-Heinz Abuatal, 1999)
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Go to your local used vinyl store. Find at least Miller's first four Smash albums. They sound great and are a cool addition to anyone's collection. You can still get em cheap, too! Or, if you are partial to cd's, get the box set, or the two volume (sold sep.) set from Smash: COuntry Tunesmith and one I think called Best of. -Original Message- From: Dave Purcell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 4:39 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...) Ok, so I'm Roger Miller-less and I've been meaning to correct that -- where's the best place to start? Thanks, Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Nope. He made a few recordings, but was generally unsuccessful as a recording artist until Dang Me...I think the early recordings are mostly early 60's, maybe a couple from the late late 50's, but he was a songwriter and backup musician during those years. -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:36 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...) Matt says: Well fill me in here. Did Miller record much or any in the late 50s? I'm underinformed about him, but I've always assumed that he started recording about then, before developing that idiosyncratic style of his in the 60s. I mean, didn't he work as a sideman with Ray and Faron and such?
RE: PLAYLIST: Fear Whiskey 3/29/99
-Original Message- From: Carl Abraham Zimring [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: PLAYLIST: Fear Whiskey 3/29/99 Music this week includes tracks from three bands who are playing April 17: Jim Roll the Deliberate Strangers at Pluto's, and the Sovines who play the Next Decade. If I can coordinate show times, I'll try to be at both events. [Matt Benz] Hmmm. Could this mark the first time -outside of Austin, of course- that 4 p2 bands play head to head (add the Polish Hillbillies, who are playing with us, into the fray)? COuld be, could be. I nominate Jim Roll as poster boy of P2: he's got cool hats. And actual fans.
RE: PLAYLIST: Fear Whiskey 3/29/99
-Original Message- From: James Gerard Roll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I thought that the Sovines were LITERALLY playing the NEXT DECADE or I would have scheduled my show on a different day. Damn . . . [Matt Benz] Naw, that would be the Sovines: "Together Again" tour, 2010, with all original members for the first time since 1999! We'll all be swigging water and holding babies, discussing junk bonds, hanging out with our aging model wives and senators backstage Grand Funk will be opening.
RE: Better Live?
Their recorded efforts don't do anything for me. The same is true of the Sovines. Their cassette, Owner Operator was okay, But their live show kicks ass. [Matt Benz] Well, in our defense, that cassette was done so we could get used to our studio, see what worked, how to record what where, blah blah blah. So yeh, it sucked pretty much. There's a real hesitant quality to most of it, and I don't find myself listening to it ever. But lessons learned from the tape helped us with most of the cd. And lessons learned and arguments over this cd will help us with the next one. Most of it was recorded live in some fashion, with vocals and various parts overdubbed, but the end result is pretty damn close to what we sound like, without the speed factor thrown in, and with extry touches like mandolin, pedal steel, accordion, dobro, organ, acoustic guitars, that you generally don't find at a Sovines show. Altogether, we think it catches our live sound ok, particulary where I throw off a ragged half-assed solo. But yeh, it does sound different. I like that aspect. if the live experience is different than the recorded, that's ok with me. I like recording songs and adding sounds that I can't do live, whether that's 3 guitars or a pedal steel part, I do what I hear in my head, as long as the other fellas put up with me. So far, I've avoided tympani drums. Live, we're just a different beast. You're just not gonna see Matt and Bob with acoustic guitars playing Drinks After Church, but neither are we gonna record it the way we play it live, cos it would suck on disc that way. I mean, most of our shows, we don't get to stretch out, we don't have an acoustic set, we rarely have the luxury of time; we treat em as a hit and run, blast em and get off the stage, so a certain "quality" is lost when translated to recording, but other qualities show up. I hope. Anyway, the whole damn thing will be available next month, on Kingpin Records, with a cd release partay here in Columbus on May 14th. Gotta have one of those to really humble yerself. Anyone interested in obtaining a copy, lemme know. I'm sure there will be piles of em in my living room for awhile.
RE: V-Roys
Scott and the vroys are always picking great covers -- as the Viceroys the used to do Jerry Lee Lewis' "Touching Home," and it was INCREDIBLE, as well as a great encore of "In the Pines." [Matt Benz] And Smokey Joe's Cafe, that's a good un
RE: Heard it on the X
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Dave Purcell wrote:
That was definitely the case in these parts. I discovered a lot of
the
80s roots rock thru WOXY/97X, a great (well it used to be, dunno if
it still is) independent station out of Miami, OH (home of Wally
Szerbiak) that Jennifer Heffron and I bonded over. They'd think
Jeezus H...That's why I love, did I say LOVEyeah, I said
love,
Purcell. The "X" out of Oxford played an incredibly influential role
in
my life.
[Matt Benz]
Oh, yeh, I heard it on the X, too! I used to love going
down/over to Dayton and Cinci just to go record shopping (this back
before I lived in COlumbus) and to hear a cool alternative station. The
X did play some great music, and yeh, I agree that to be into roots rock
in the early to mid 80's was to be a alternative hipster doofus. Good
times, good times.
RE: Derailers release date...
And remember, Columbus resident Ed Atkins is the new bass player. He'll be the good lookin one. Be sure to say hi to him on tour and make him feel at home. Can you imagine: signing on to a band and having a video shoot being your first "job?" -Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:38 PM To: passenger side Subject: Derailers release date... Oh by the way Apparently we're looking at a projected July 13 release on the Derailers. A single from the album, "Full Western Dress," will be out in June. Apparently this single memorializes Mark Wyatt's pointy boots. --junior
RE: Tweedy @ Salon
What's his beef? He did the Mermaid Ave music in a roosty vein (never have I heard a band try so hard to sound like the Basement Tapes, BTW), so it's not like a huge stretch for folks to expect him and WIlco to still produce ND related music, when his last project *was* so NDish. Now he has a big ELO pop music spectacular, which is fine, but for him to express bewilderment that folks are surprised and maybe not thrilled with such sudden musical changes is funny. It is a radical jump from one album to the next. People who like the Neil Young sound don't rush out and embrace his rockabilly big band techno albums either. People like consistancy. Not everyone is so embracing of the wide range of pop and rock stylings that a artist may feel like playing. Not everyone is so well rounded as some of the folks on p2. No big deal, just the way it is. Interesting to note Joe Henry is also going thru this stage. I don't care what he puts out, I don't think he's betraying anything by changing sounds, I just get tired of him and the "purists" whoever and where ever they are-talking about it.
RE: Tweedy @ Salon, Kelly Willis
[Matt Benz] Well, in many ways, I identify with Tweedy, since I grew up with much the same musical influences, I suspect, and hell, I jump around myself musically. But then, no one asks me about that, nor do I have an adoring audience following my every move. Well, I do, but a court order should take care of that problem. Anyhoo, what I mean to say is I understand what he wants to do musically, and again, I'm not one of them ND purists. But like Purcell, I haven't really got into Wilco that much. Not sure why, but it isn't cause of betrayal or anything. Just don'tlike it...much. I'm also kinda disappointed with Kelly Willis' release. I guess I was hoping for something more along the lines of "Kelly Willis," a harder country sound. This is too ...erm.americana for my tastes, at least some of it. Still, it is her voice, so I'll live and still play it. Saw an old video of heres from the "Bang Bang" days in which she fully participates in one of them modern country videos. Yowza.
RE: iggy pop
Yeh, I thought so, too. Maybe I don't grasp the point of Behind The Music, but it doesn't seem to be much about music, as it is glorifying drug abuse. Hell, after watching the Motley Crue one, I found myself envying their rock n roll lifestyles. Sounds like fun. Yeh, every one's clean and sober now, able to look back and say" woo, those were wild times, man. Even my son partied." But not everyone made it: did the Iggy Pop one mention that Dave Alexander died from an overdose? Anyway, I find them pretty disappointing, mostly. Tho I was shocked at James Williamson's look today. Isn't he the one everyone hated in "Please Kill Me"? He looks like my college professor neighbor. -Original Message- From: Thomas W. Mohr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] VH1 is repeating "Iggy Pop: Behind the Music" tomorrow (Tuesday ) at 10 p.m. (Central). Cool show, but they spent a bit too much time on the story of Iggy Jr. -- Tom Mohr at the office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Clip: The state of country radio
[Matt Benz] Shania sez in the VH1 special that she sang whatever was in demand: she sang in rock bands, top 40 cover bands, country bands. She was a typical lounge-type performer: simply doing whatever styles were wanted at the time. As far as I can tell, she was not pre-disposed to country music, which is clear from her pop thrusts lately. She just wanted to succeed in a musical career. Which is fine. She did have at least one good country song, I think, based on that special: a clip from an early video (her playing guitar in a rustic porch setting) was kinda good.
RE: Clip: The state of country radio
I was at my in-laws, lying on the couch, watching lots of satellite tv. Lots of VH1 music specials. I didn't see all of Shania's, tuned out before the "fake Native American backround" scandal. I admit I was curious. And she is good looking, no denying that. But then I also watched the Grand Funk one. So yeh, I'm shameless. M -Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 10:26 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Clip: The state of country radio [Matt Benz] Shania sez in the VH1 special... Hmm, first Derek, now Matt confesses to having tuned in. I think it's pretty clear just who the real Shania fans are here. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: iggy pop
Well, that's what I figured out, eventually. I guess I'm not as interested in drug use and wife beatings as I am in music, tho. M I do believe the show is called "BEHIND the music" which would suggest that they would talk about something other than "the music"...eh? I just can't wait for the new series "Behind the Rap/Hip Hop"...ooohhh that should be chalked full of goodies! g Paul
RE: New Faces?
So I caught a video for what looks and sounds like a country version of the Backstreet Boys or one of them prefab pop groups for the preteen girls, with each guy having his own distinctive look, but all of em either cute (goatee, sideburns, big eyes) or studly (long hair, muscles), of course. Terrible song, despite pedal steel drapings, and the video had em all doing those little hand gestures to indicate emotions, so important to the prefab bands, as well as shots of basketball playing, motorcycle stroking, fishing, lying in bed, and standing around looking sad and pouty. Don't know if this is new or not, but it's a collision of two worlds best left worlds apart, me thinks. (WWJD or What Would Journey Do?) Matt
RE: A Pop Quiz
Well, very few people jumped on this, so the masses have spoken: no more
quizzes after this. I thought it might be fun, butYou people either
never listened to the radio, are ashamed that you did know these, gave a
flying fuck, or you'd rather argue about Dancing Queen. And then you
don't even know the words to Dancing Queen (see below), so what do you
all know? Maybe I should have thrown in a few big words to get the
brainiacs involved. Or signed it under Cantwell's name...but I'm not
bitter g
Anyway, FWIW, here's the answers:
Name the song and band. 5 points a question.
"Tongue tied or short of breath, don't even try. Try a little harder."
-1982
[Matt Benz] "Too Shy" KajaGoogoo
"Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time; I don't know what
to do and I'm always in the dark."
-1982
[Matt Benz] "Total Eclipse of the Heart" Bonnie Tyler
"Pretty eyes, pirate smile, you'll marry a music man."
-1971
[Matt Benz] "Tiny Dancer" Elton John
"That rich guy you've been seein' must have put you down..."
-1966
[Matt Benz] "The Poor Side of Town" Johnny Rivers (has anyone
covered this great song?)
"I never cared too much for games, and this one's drivin' me insane;
you're not half as free to wander as you claim."
-1975
[Matt Benz] "I'm Easy" David Carradine
"Johnny and Eddie and me and Jimmy and Jack are gonna do a little
number on the teacher when she turns her back."
-1983
[Matt Benz] "Sexy Seventeen" Stray Cats
"I can't lie, I can't tell you that I'm something I'm not, no matter
how I try. I'll never be able to give you something that I just
haven't got."
-1977
[Matt Benz] "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad" Meat Loaf
So I'm on a ride and I want to get off, but they won't slow down the
roundabout. I sold the Renoir and the TV set, don't wanna be around
when this gets out."
-1983
[Matt Benz] "The Reflex" Duran Duran
"...and with her head upon his shoulder his young and lovely financee.
From where I stood I saw she was cryin and through her tears I heard
her say..."
-1973
[Matt Benz] "Billy Don't Be A Hero" Bo Donaldson The Haywoods
or something like that
"Guilty feet have got no rhythm."
-1984
[Matt Benz] um.some George Michael song...
"I see on us the shore beneath the bright sunshine, We walked along St
Thomas beach a million times. Hand in hand. Two barefoot lovers kissin
in the sand."
-1976
[Matt Benz] "I Like Dreaming" who knows, who cares?
"Once in every life, someone comes along, and you came to me, it
was"
-1977
[Matt Benz] "It Was Almost Like A Song" Ronnie Milsap
"On a morning from a Bogart movie in a country where they turned back
time. You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre
contemplating a crime."
-1976
[Matt Benz] "Year Of The Cat" Al Stewart
"Look around, be a part, feel for the winter but don't have a cold
heart."
-1978
[Matt Benz] "Lady" Little River Band
"Sun goes down on a silky day; quarter moon walkin thru the Milky Way.
Oh you and me baby, we could think of something to do. It's the"
-1977
[Matt Benz] "It's The Right Time of The Night" Jennifer
Warrens
"And I would've walked head on into the deep end of the river,
clinging to your stocks and bonds, paying your H.P. demands forever.
They're comin in the morning with a truck to take me home."
-1975
[Matt Benz] "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" Elton John
"Friday night and the lights are low..."
-1977
[Matt Benz] "Dancing Queen" ABBA
"Did you ever read about a frog who dreamed of bein' a king...and then
became one..."
-1971
[Matt Benz] "I Am, I said" And no one heard no not even the
chair. Or cared. Neil Diamond
"Woman you want me, give me a sign and catch my breathing even closer
behind."
-1983
[Matt Benz] "Hungry Like The Wolf" Duran2
"Don't get too tiredfor love. Don't let it end. Don't say
goodnight to love. It may never be the same again. Don't..."
-1979
[Matt Benz] "Don't Say Goodnight (Tonight)" Paul McCartney
Wings
"I see you, you see me. Watch you blowing the lines when you're making
a scene."
-1981
[Matt Benz] "Private Eyes" Hall Oates
"Money talks. But it don't sing and dance and it don't walk. As long
as I can have you hear with me, I'd much rather be."
-1978
[Matt Benz] "Forever In Blue Jeans" Neil Diam
RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm
I'm not for a total ban on SUV's. I kinda like the old models, but I'm not crazy about having 20 of em to one car on every road hiway biway expressway I'm on. As more and more people buy them, the driving skills go way down. People who have no idea how to drive these behemouths, jump behind the wheel, turn on all 20 headlights, charge up like a rhino right on your ass and then swerve and crash in the snow cos they think "hey, they drive these Expeditions up mountians in the commercials: that snow bank is nuthin!" After the last huge snowstorm, I heard truckers laughing about SUV's who sped by them on the interstate, only to end up upside down in the ditch later. News reports had Chicago littered with stuck SUV's, as their owners learned that they don't know how to drive em in bad weather, and that most of the new models can't hack rough driving conditions. This led to the auto industry insisting their vehicals were safe and rugged. An industry known for its honesty. Course, the newer SUV's are built for luxury, not for actual four wheeling, so that people can cart around their grocery bags surrounded by plush leather, 10 speaker 14 cd changer, etc and are far from able to handle rough terrain, especially when driven by a certified moron of a soccor mom with a car phone in one hand and a mascara pen in the other, while a cup of Starbucks Cappacino Lite w Goat Milk Steam balances on her leg as she dashes impatiently to Target, running down your ass cos you dare to drive somewhere around the speed limit. Meanwhile, stats are showing that these monsters are killing people more and more, not the drivers of the SUV's, of course, who are safely cushioned behind all that good old American Steel, but yes, people like those of us who think life on the road is complete with a Ford Escort Wagon. And with more SUV's being sold by owners, they are bought used by younger drivers, more prone to vehicular stupidity, thus increasing accidents and spreading mayhem ads they traverse the rough terrain between the malls and suburbs. Now Ford is coming out with a 19 foot long monster called the "Excursion." Coming to a parking lot near you, where they -duh- won't fit into a standard parking place. But as long as it's good American Steel I also hate those new big pickups, which are now considered luxury transportation. Why have a pick up if you're gonna keep the bed sealed with a cover? Which most everyone of these Ram pickups have. Why buy it if you ain't gonna use it? This current rage is doomed, of course, as soon as gas prices start edging back up. Then all your fine American Steel (made in another country, most likely) will be rusting in used car lots, as people realize it's impossible to keep up the payments (course, they're all leased, another fraud encouraged by the auto industry so we have to keep buying new cars: say no to leasing and keep your car awhile: that's the true American way!) and buy the gas. The simple fact that most people drive SUV's in conditions that far from warrant their use (you don't need 4 wheel drive in central Ohio), they drive them just cos the Jone's next door have one, shows that one thing you can say about our country is that we don't learn a damn thing, we just keep trucking on, oblivious to anything but the here and now and what's mine and get the hell out of my way. -Original Message- From: Geff King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 5:31 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote: Oh shutup! I drive a Ford. SUV's are for..! (sound of Hummer going by) I think Jeff Wall is yanking a few virtual chains... Also, if you have to outlaw SUV's then you have to outlaw Ford vans, too. Know who owned a Ford van? Red Sovine. Course you knew that... -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm
Now I'm lookin up Jeremiad.. -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 3:36 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm You go, Matt! The art of the Jeremiad is not dead!!! g. Those Mormon Assault Vehicles do suck. All they are is symbols of ADY syndrome (Advanced Decadent Yuppiedom, of course) --junior
FW: A Pop Quiz
-Original Message- From: Matt Benz Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 8:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [twangfest] for all you retros: a guilty pop quiz! I made this up for the Twangfest side list. I guess I made it too hard, so I'm bouncing it to P2 as well. I hope to do quizzes every now and again, prizes of dubious nature to be awarded at TF. Don't worry if you think there's too many 80's tunes here. Future quizzes will draw heavily from different eras and genres. Have fun! And Oh yeh- please post back to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) instead of list. Answers monday... All pop hits. Name the song and band. 5 points a question. "Tongue tied or short of breath, don't even try. Try a little harder." -1982 "Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time; I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark." -1982 "Pretty eyes, pirate smile, you'll marry a music man." -1971 "That rich guy you've been seein' must have put you down..." -1966 "I never cared too much for games, and this one's drivin' me insane; you're not half as free to wander as you claim." -1975 "Johnny and Eddie and me and Jimmy and Jack are gonna do a little number on the teacher when she turns her back." -1983 "I can't lie, I can't tell you that I'm something I'm not, no matter how I try. I'll never be able to give you something that I just haven't got." -1977 So I'm on a ride and I want to get off, but they won't slow down the roundabout. I sold the Renoir and the TV set, don't wanna be around when this gets out." -1983 "...and with her head upon his shoulder his young and lovely financee. From where I stood I saw she was cryin and through her tears I heard her say..." -1973 "Guilty feet have got no rhythm." -1984 "I see on us the shore beneath the bright sunshine, We walked along St Thomas beach a million times. Hand in hand. Two barefoot lovers kissin in the sand." -1976 "Once in every life, someone comes along, and you came to me, it was" -1977 "On a morning from a Bogart movie in a country where they turned back time. You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime." -1976 "Look around, be a part, feel for the winter but don't have a cold heart." -1978 "Sun goes down on a silky day; quarter moon walkin thru the Milky Way. Oh you and me baby, we could think of something to do. It's the" -1977 "And I would've walked head on into the deep end of the river, clinging to your stocks and bonds, paying your H.P. demands forever. They're comin in the morning with a truck to take me home." -1975 "Friday night and the lights are low..." -1977 "Did you ever read about a frog who dreamed of bein' a king...and then became one..." -1971 "Woman you want me, give me a sign and catch my breathing even closer behind." -1983 "Don't get too tiredfor love. Don't let it end. Don't say goodnight to love. It may never be the same again. Don't..." -1979 "I see you, you see me. Watch you blowing the lines when you're making a scene." -1981 "Money talks. But it don't sing and dance and it don't walk. As long as I can have you hear with me, I'd much rather be." -1978 "When I was young, I never needed anyone. And makin' love was just for fun." 1975 "Just a small town girl on a saturday night looking for the fight of her life." 1983 "There was a man, a lonely man who lost his love thru his indifference. A heart that cared that went unshared until it died within his silence. And ** the only game in town." 1975 "You really should accept this time he's gone for good. He'll never come back now even though he said he would. So darling, dry your eyes, so many other guys would give the world, I'm sure to wear the shoes he wore. Oh come on now..." 1969 "What's your price for flight." 1984 "Boy! Now in the street there is violence. And lot's of work to be done." 1982 "I've always been the kind of man who doesn't believe in strings; long term obligations are just unnecessary things. But girl you've got me thinking while I'm drinking one more beer If I'm headed for a heartache then why the hell am I still here?" 1979 "From deep inside the tears that I forced to cry. From deep inside the pain that I choose to hide. Just Walk away" 1966 "Huh huh huh huuuh huh. So true...how funny it seems...always in time, but never in line for dreams." 1983 "He's got this dream about buying some land, he's gonna give up the booze and the one night stands and then you'll settle down with some quiet little town and forget about everything." 1978 "Said far
RE: About all this Todd Larson whoop-dee-do
-Original Message- From: Dave Purcell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:00 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: About all this Todd Larson whoop-dee-do My turn! I heart Will Miner. And not just 'cause he plays the same guitars as me. Dave [Matt Benz] So you also love the guy from REO Speedwagon?
RE: Jones update 8pm
When cell phones are outlawed...blah blah blah. [Matt Benz] And SUV's. Praying for another gas crisis. And for George.
RE: bad news concerning George Jones]
And the "lucky" thing for George is that he didn't plow into a car with that SUV of his: he might be looking at a lawsuit as well. Let's get folks off the phone, and out of SUV's! -Original Message- From: Will Miner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:03 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: bad news concerning George Jones] On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was mean, we all make mistakes don't we? Yeah, there's a little Ryan Adams in all of us, aint there. What I hope people get from this is DONT TALK ON YOUR DAMNED CELLPHONES WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. Studies show that people who cant hang up while they drive drive as badly as a drunk driver. I've known too many people who've had their cars totaled by dimwits who couldnt be alone with themselves in a car for a few minutes. Will Miner Denver, CO
RE: Beantown Bound/Spurs
I think John was actually one of those non-dancers dancing at my last Spurs' show. I always complained that the men in Boston never danced. Well, they don't appear to dance in Nashville either. [Matt Benz] Let me guess: they stand around, holding a beer, staring at the band and nodding along. It's the guy thing to do.
RE: Robbie Fulks and covers
Can you create flash cards for me? Uh... I'm sorry I asked the original question. Jeff [Matt Benz] Jeff, what Jon is doing is "translating" the chords of a song into numbers. The whole key of a song, say G becomes numbers: G -1 A -2 B-3 C-4 D-5 E-6 F-7. So, your standard pop chords of G - C - D become I - 4 - 5, which is the "145 progression." The flat 6 would be a Eb chord. I think. Either that, or it's really a flatted 6th chord, as in Gb6. What was the question?
RE: cheech and chong
They contribute a string of babble or something to one song, if I remember right. Kinda like Monty Python appearing on George Harrison's "This Song." -Original Message- From: lance davis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 9:49 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re:cheech and chong Recently I bought a copy of Los Cochinos by Cheech and Chong (the one with Basketball Jones). Because of this I went to the CC site on All-Music guide, and subsequently found out that the guys sing backup on Joni Michell's Court and Spark LP. What in God's name is the story behind this gig? Was Joni secretly hip and no one told me about it. Lance . . .
RE: Kelly Willis Michael WHERE YA Been PURCELL?
I was thinking it must be time for the annual "Name Dave Purcell's latest band" contest, but I hear he already -yes, that's right- already has come up with a name. Unfortunately, it's not "Cakehole." -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 5:07 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Kelly Willis Michael Been? Oh, Purcell's back. It's just old home week around here, n'est-ce-pas (as they say down on the bayou). Millenial anxiety, sheer coincidence, or the inescapable lure of twang subculture? You decide. --junior
RE: Damnations TX vs tired UT sounds
Both, baby! g. And to find out she's playing in Columbus this April, well, smack my hind with a melon rind! -Original Message- From: marie arsenault [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:01 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Damnations TX vs tired UT sounds [Matt Benz] Now, I need to get back to the Kelly Willis disc. Do you mean listening to the disc or drooling over the cd booklet? marie
RE: Dusty Springfield
Nope -- the GH productions are "Cherished" and "Goodbye," both of 'em previously unissued.--don [Matt Benz] SLAM! - The sound of Dave running out the door and down to the record store.
RE: Bob o the sovines update
-Original Message- From: Gary Grismore [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 6:09 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Bob o the sovines update Great news Matt! Does this mean we're no longer collecting a donation? I'd still be happy to contribute - just don't want to if it's just going to get returned. Let me know - and keep me updated on the possible benefit. Thanks! Gary [Matt Benz] yes, I would say donations are really no longer needed. I helped him move out some yesterday, and they really were very lucky, other than losing the cat. And the apartment, of course. But they are doing well, and the landlord may have a new place for em. That old building musta had some kind of firewall setup, cos really, the fire was stopped cold all around their apartment. From the looks of it, 5 more minutes, they ceiling woulda come crashing down, and *then* they would've lost it all. I took off the apt. # 5 for em, figuring that might be their lucky number now. Again, thanks for the show of concern folks!
RE: The Eradication Game misc comments
And while I'm at it, the snide remarks about Shania Twain's dress got on my nerves. It's one thing to criticize her music; another to apply a double standard to her stage clothes. What double standard? Imagine the same exact dress on Tina Turner. That double standard. Plus, the catty comments about the Dixie Chicks' sartorial shortcomings are pretty rich coming from a group that accepts hats made out of sweatpant legs. g [Matt Benz] Wrong, yerself. You're assuming we think the outfit would look good on *anybody.* And ain't no one said we accept the sweatpant hat as a group.
Damnations TX vs tired UT sounds
After driving around the entire outerbelt searching for an elusive copy of this album, I weaved my way back to the "impeccable indy store" and of course found it. Learnin lessons the hard way here. Anyway, I love the record, but am surprised to hear the tag team of Yates and Weiss claim this stands out from the UT "genre". I hear plenty of overt UT influence on this album. Strains of New Madrid lurk in the banjo strains, etc... Also, do you really think that musically this album stands out? Some of the same loping alt-country shuffling going on, and I dare say that the only differences I hear on some of the tunes are the female vocals: stick a guy wailing away on some of em: same ol alt country rag. Tho maybe not in tune g. Sure, I hear the 60's RB basslines that pop up, that I admit is different, tho not radically so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not picking a fight, nor do I doubt your word here: you see and hear far more of this music than I do. Just want you to elaborate, maybe. Maybe we need another "Alt-COuntry Consumer Alert" list. And I love the album thus far. It was worth the nerve racking drive thru the pastel condo sprawl of the outerbelt. Matt high on god dam life.
RE: Summer Teeth
Sounds interesting enough to give a listen. And don't think I don't like pop, so even if it was real glossy, I could take it. Those Rasberries singles around my house weren't ignored while growing up. But tt is a *single* disc, isn't it? M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] By no means would I call it ragin' full-on glossy. It's still Wilco, still ragged, still loose, still throaty. They can only be so glossy and pop, no matter how hard they tried. One of favorite things about Tweety is that he always sounds as if he's either nearing sleep or just having woken up. Summer Teeth doesn't lose that. Combine that with pop hooks and some dark-ass lyrics and that's what makes it so damn interesting to me. Neal Weiss
RE: Summer Teeth
-Original Message-
From: Bill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 4:54 PM
To: passenger side
Subject: RE: Summer Teeth
On Tue, 02 March 1999, Matt Benz wrote:
And don't think I don't like
pop, so even if it was real glossy, I could take it. Those
Rasberries
singles around my house weren't ignored while growing up.
"Raspberries singles"?
The force is in you...come over to the dark side, Matt. g
[Matt Benz] Uh, hell yes! Rasberries, Badfinger, Jackson 5, and
top 40 radio, all day, and as late into the night as we could get away
with. And until our radio caught fire, but that's another story. I was
born on the dark side, my friend.
RE: Production-- Ralph Emery's take on this thread
-Original Message-
From: Shane S. Rhyne [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I guess I said all that to say this-- it doesn't make sense to me that
folks
can single-handedly blame Chet Atkins (or insert name of producer
here) for
any perceived faults in the production of Bobby Bare's (or insert name
of
artist here) records. Atkins may have acheived a good level of power,
but I
find it hard to believe he could force "Countrypolitan" down the
throat of
anyone who did not willingly want to collaborate to some degree.
[Matt Benz] This is true, but there are terrible producers who
will not only ruin the sound of a song, but actually add lyrics,
bridges, etcessentially re-write your song. So a artist can be
manipulated easily. Surprising that anyone would allow this to happen,
but it does. I've seen it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own
ears. Young bands-offered a chance to record-are easily waylaid and
manipulated. I wouldn't say this about Atkins. The Countrypolitian
Sound, was like the Motown and Stax sound, created by a group of
musicians and producers working together on many projects, hence the
similarities in sound and style. But it was still organic and complex,
not a rote system applied like whitewash.
There are as many producer/musician relationships as there are
musicians and producers. There's the Ken Nelson school, where he kept
out of the way of creativity for the most part, letting Buck Owens run
the show while he ran the technical end, listened for problems. Then
there's the George Martin type, who starts out in control, but over time
becomes more of a musical partner, learning as much as the artist, then
there's those producers who Rule as Gods, ala Phil Spector. And every
other kind you can think of, from drinking buddy to the guy in the band
who owns the board.
Did you know the Beatles, in 1969, claimed that Phil Spector
ruined their "Let It Be" songs with heaps of strings and choirs? Well,
at least McCartney complained. I don't think the others cared anymore.
Matt, wearing his new Turncoat proudly
RE: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
-Original Message-
From: Geff King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:28 PM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz)
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So if I choose that cleanhead guy Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown, that
gets
rid of not only the band but that stupid "Star Search" show? Cool!
[Matt Benz] No! I won't let you get rid of Ed McMahon!
I won't!
np "The God Why Don't You Love Blues"
RE: Production-- Ralph Emery's take on this thread
Any way we can see this whole article, Jon? Or, to get back to the producer that started the thread, here's a snippet from the JCM roundtable I mentioned earlier: Q. What about the producers? I'd like for you to talk about what they contributed. Buddy Harman: A lot of 'em were smart enough to let us do what we felt like would fit the song.A lot of 'em left us alone, and they'd just play a demo and we would come up with something.
RE: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....
Having said that, and taking note that the fiddle players in the band do, in fact, play their instruments (I've had two separate reports of at least one of them contacting people who played fiddle on the recordings in order to get some pointers on specific passages), it looks to me as though Twain is moving in the direction of crossing over permanently. [Matt Benz] Hmmm. I was thinking that wasn't even her actual band behind her -mostly cos the outfits made em look more like something the Grammy design folks woulda come up with-and therefore, the fiddle players were just role playing. They sure didn't seem to be playing in close ups, especially while singing: I swear the one was faking it. The whole thing was such a jaw dropping spectacle of bad taste...She's leaving country on a jet plane. Gill was great, and stuck me as the most honest and real performance of the ones I saw (I didn't see Lauryn Hill). Nice suit, too. Did anyone catch Yearwood's expression when he accepted the Grammy and made that Garth joke? Clapton was embarrassing, and are we sure he and BB even rehearsed? That was a pretty lamo blues performance all around. That whole gospel based all star tune -which I've never heard - was badly done, and somewhat of a boring arrangement. I was actually remembering We Are The World fondly. Tho surprising, Bono wasn't the lone offender: who was the blonde weasely looking singer? She could *not* sing, and had no business being among those gospel singers on stage. Brian Setzer and the Dixie Chicks would of been the most awkward presenters if not for Billy Corgan and the woman from Garbage. Rosie O'Donnell's fame continues to amaze me. As a comedian, she makes a great talk show host. She made a Spice Girls joke, for gawd's sake. I like how CBS made sure that their network stars were in the audience and on camera.
RE: Hyper produced Bobby Bare
Me again: OK, let's try this again. Pretend you're composing a sound track for a movie about a lonely rural guy from Kentucky or West Virginia, who's living in Detroit making a buck in the auto factories, and who spends a lot of time pining for his old home, and wondering just what the heck he's doing in this big depressing city. Now would you use an arrangement that sounded like it employed some off-duty singers from the Comet commercial being taped in the next studio, or would you use something a bit less jingle-like and glossy? I fet the feeling that Chet shoe-horned everybody into his own poppy world, whether they belonged their or not. [Matt Benz] But Terry, the songs aren't for a movie soundtrack, designed to convey or pull at the emotions of a theatre audience, they were made so that the folks in the auto factories would *want* to hear the songs on the radio. And that sound is what sold records at the time. Bare was working within the system, not rebelling against it. And while I'm not saying that life in a factory is/was just a life of grimness, I can't see how a stark and depressing arrangement would appeal to a factory guy, even if he could identify with the song's theme. No matter the artistic merits of such an arrangement. That's evidently not what Bare was shooting for. While I can sympathize with your arguments over arrangements, I think that the flaw in your case is that you *assume* the artist would do the arrangement you think suits the song best. You suspect that the artist is forced to bend to Atkins musical will, and if Bare had his way, he would of gone for a sparse arrangement. M
And the winner is......(Derailer news!)
Hope I'm the first to announce that the new bass player for the Derailers is no other than COlumbus resident Ed Atkins, formally lead vocalist, guitarist, bass player for the Roundhouse Ranglers. He will be heading to Austin next month, just in time to tour behind the new Derailers album and perform in a video. Ed's a good lookin well mannered youngster, with a voice that reminds me of Faron Young. Here's to his success with the Derailers. He should fit in well. BTW- Dave Alvin announced from the stage last night that the new Derailers will be the best yet. His concert last night was the first in a long time that held me enthralled. We found out for instance that the "border radio" request was Cupid, and that Alvin and the Guilty Men can do a little RB - Philly and Motown style, with their special guest vocalist, whose name escapes me, but Alvin produced his album and had him selling tees. Anyway, they did- and Cantwell can correct me "Cowboys and Indians" I believe (about playing shoot em up as a kid. Song was familar but.), which included a verse and chorus from Just My Imagination. Excellent.
RE: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)
[Matt Benz] Yes, yes, and Gaffney was the guest on stage. Thank you much. Very cool cover. In case David is otherwise engaged - the song sounds like it might be the Intruders(?) "Cowboys to Girls" which was recently covered by Chris Gaffney, with duet vocals from Lucinda, on his 1995 Dave Alvin produced album "Loser's Paradise" (great cd, btw). Speaking of country-soul, I was listening to Freda Payne's "Band of Gold" recently and I coulda sworn that some country act in the last 10 years had covered it and maybe even had a hit with it. Anybody? Evan Cooper
RE: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)
-Original Message- From: Terry A. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:47 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!) Down here in the wilderness of SE Ohio, I don't hear about these great Columbus shows. Criminently, Alvin AND Chris Gaffney playing the same bill. I'd have walked to Columbus for that. Chris Gaffney has put out three of my favorite records of the past 10 or so years. His tune, "The Garden," is a T.S. classic. And that "Cowboys to Indians," or whatever it's called, is a great cover, as Matt said. It doesn't hurt when Lucinda is pitching in. -- Terry Smith [Matt Benz] Sorry, Terry, but to make you feel better, Gaffney only sang two songs with Alvin, then played accordion on Marie Marie and So Long Baby Goodbye. Other than that, he sold the tee shirts. M
RE: And the winner is......(Derailer news!)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:29 AM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: And the winner is..(Derailer news!)
Jeez, Matt, I thought you were going to tell me that it was YOU that
was the
new bass player. You know, give up that cushy museum job to plunk the
four-
string in a bunch of smelly dives just to say "I'm a Derailer."
[Matt Benz] Naw...I can't afford the suits. Actually, I'm not
even sure I can play the bass, come to think of it.
RE: Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?
Good luck, Alex. Not all of us over here are for *any* bombing, so take care, and know that we're pulling for you. Matt -Original Message- From: Lazarevic Aleksandar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 1998 2:47 PM To: passenger side Subject: Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ? Hard times are comming ! USA wants to bomb YU and i remember what problems i had last year when some old people called radio station and asked to forbid my show because as they told to editor i'm doing propaganda for enemy !?!?!? I hope i'll avoid it this time. Alex N.P. - Americana - A Tribute to Johnny Cash
RE: Hankdogs?
Why don't you start one an "alt-country band name generator..." Lonesome Dog Whiskey Blue Rebel etc... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 2:27 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Hankdogs? Listening to the Hankdogs CD " Bareback" ..very nice. Anyone know more about this band? Hankdogs... Hangdogs... Honeydogs... come on people. How about some originality? Anyone every considered how ridiculous many of the alt-country/ND band names are? They're like cliches at this point. Cripes. NW
RE: 1R1R in ND
One Riot One Ranger, or 1R1R, in p2 lingo.. Matt -Original Message- From: lance davis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:53 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: 1R1R in ND Well, it was clear the reviewer hadn't heard "Face made For Radio" cos then maybe he would have noticed the Pere Ubu cover, proof of their eclectic record collections, a point the reviewer sat on for awhile. He also didn't notice that they cover a Great Plains (the OH Garage-"punk" band) tune on the new one, if he needed more proof of eclectism. And way back, they covered Duke Ellington. Who are y'all talking about here? I know Clawhammer has done Pere Ubu and Ellington covers, but I'm pretty certain that isn't the group under discussion. Lance . . .
RE: more 1R1R in ND
Wow - I sure do hate to take on Chad, especially since he's been pretty sour lately, but Sure, the review isn't 100% negative, but it wouldn't be a backhanded review if it was, which I think is the main contention here. If reviewer said it sucks bad, and here's why I think so, we could only grumble, but he basically sez "well, they claim to be adventuresome, but they're not really, in fact, they're kind of tame, and yeh, they're ok, competant and all, nice harmonies, but don't bother if you like the Bad Livers or Ralph Stanley.." which more or less means "don't anyone bother." Finally, it was more of a review of the liner notes than the music, doncha think? But a rating system of some kind would help these reviews cut to the chase. -Original Message- From: Chad [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:56 PM To: passenger side Subject: more 1R1R in ND
RE: It hasn't died after all (long)
Aw, I'm just joshing ya. Those few posts you made while hammered (few?!!) had me rolling on the floor. Never have I seen anyone who could type the way a drunken man talks gibberish. So I was almost disappointed with your straight review of the Gourds, but that's alright. It was still a good review. Well, then, have yerself a good drunk tonight. Speaking of which, this reminds me of a somewhat amusing Bob Sovine story, for what it's worth. Last practice, the man had finished a 40 ouncer and was sitting down when I started off a song. I get done with the little intro lick, and instead of him coming in with his part, suddenly, Bob's guitar flies through the air, smashing into the mic stand with a great "grrboingpcrash!" in perfect time. "Damn strap." he sez. Now I'm the Other Matt -Original Message- From: Matt Cook [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:32 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: It hasn't died after all (long) Are you makin' fun of me? 'Cause if you are, I don't think I can take it. Never happened to me before. --Matt Cook
RE: Richard Thompson
-Original Message- I'm happy to see that there are others who rank _Pour Down Like Silver_ above _Shoot Out the Lights_, as I do--not that either record is any too shabby, of course, just that _SOTL_ has always been the consensus critical fave, and _PDLS_ has been unjustly ignored, I think. [Matt Benz] I like Hokey Pokey.
RE: Richard Thompson
It's also worth keeping in mind that RT has denied that any song on _Across a Crowded Room_ is about Linda in any way. He knows best, of course, but anyone who's heard that record can't help thinking that he's not being entirely truthful there (which is his prerogative, of course). "When the Spell Is Broken"? "You Don't Say"? "She Twists the Knife Again"? Sure, he just happened to spin out a string of bitter end-of-love songs shortly after going through a bitter and acrimonious divorce. Right. [Matt Benz] But it *was* Richard who broke up the marriage after meeting another woman, so I'm sure he wasn't the really bitter one.
RE: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
We've *never* been able to agree on anything (not even on the general worthlessness of Kenny Rogers), and I think if we ever did, we'd just have to shut the list down. After all, what would be the point of carrying on?g--don Wait a minute, someone among us defended Kenny Rodgers? Oh my. Was it that great contrarian Weisberger, I suppose? Taking my love to town, (I know, I know, that's a great Mel Tillis song) Matt
RE: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
Ah, the amp named Black Widow. Yes, I love this! Bittersweet. I'm always amazed at sibling harmonies and these two are perfect. [Matt Benz] Tho-as I've told others-I am amazed at how many "advance copies" of this are in the hands of p2 folks who are *not* industry weasel insiders drooling over freebies. What kind of racket are we running here? And how do I get in on it? Amos, Moses!
RE: K.D. Lang
[Matt Benz] I have a hard time swallowing the theory that country music rejected Lang cos she campaigned -briefly, we're talking one ad campaign here- against eating beef. I know there was a uproar among the beef industry, but if a music scene turned on her based on that, well, then who needs said industry? Silly, rilly.
RE: Cold Mountain CD
-Original Message- From: Steve Gardner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 9:40 AM To: passenger side Subject: Cold Mountain CD Jim Nelson said about the Cold Mountain CD that will be packaged with the book: That's a great deal for those of us who've had the book for over a year now... Like I said. You people are crabby. [Matt Benz] Really. They're only doing a cd based on the book because the book is popular. If the book sold in p2 amounts, we sure as well wouldn't see a cd. Remember that piece of literary trash "Bridges of Yoknapatawpha County"? There was a cd for that, too (with the "author" singing. Yikes!) when it became huge. When's the Cold Mountain movie coming out?
RE: Cold Mountain CD
Um...I don't think *I* was doing the complaining here. I was refering to this: Jim Nelson said about the Cold Mountain CD that will be packaged with the book: That's a great deal for those of us who've had the book for over a year now... [Matt Benz] Them ain't my words. My less than clear point inn reply to the above is that *of course* there wasn't a cd with the first runs of the book: it had to become a runaway best seller to justify new products associated with the book. The cd exists because of the interest created by sales. So those who bought the book way back when should hold their beefs. And get the cd anyway. Right? On the other hand, Matt's absolutely right to whine about a dearth of Damnations, TX advances; what's going on, some kind of boycott of The Heartland? Right around here is where the real tastemakers, like Mark Wyatt and Dave Purcell, are. [Matt Benz] What he said!
RE: Cold Mountain CD
It's great old-time music, at least the first few cuts are, so who cares that they made the album because of a popular book? It should happen more often - you know, like, new people hearing you play the music you want to. What are you complaining about, Matt? [Matt Benz] Ah, I see the misunderstanding: Again, I'm not complaining about this; I agree, it's great to see this kind of interest in offshoots, etc...Just pointing out the obvious marketing issues, not bitching about the way the disc was made. Does any of this make sense?
RE: New Wynn Stewart website
That photo of Wynn playing a Mustang (or Duo Sonic) is great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:34 PM To: passenger side Subject: New Wynn Stewart website Well worth a look at: http://members.tripod.com/WynnStewart. --Jon Johnson
RE: Sugar Town?
Yes on both accounts. It's on her best of collection. -Original Message- From: Mike Woods [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 7:07 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Sugar Town? On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Geffry King wrote: Something tells me this is one of those weird Lee Hazlewood compositions. Is this correct? I dunno, but something tells me that Nancy Sinatra was the singer. So maybe it is an LH song. -- Mike Woods
RE: What Country is Really All About
[Matt Benz] I still say the Dixie Chicks look terrible, hair and outfits wise. Can I get a witness?
RE: What Country is Really All About
Well, I'm not gonna dish on their looks, just the outfits and do's. To get all Blackwell about it, The Dixie Chicks went scratchin in the wrong dirt when they picked these outfits. Look away, look away, Dixie land, indeed! -Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:27 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: What Country is Really All About [Matt Benz] I still say the Dixie Chicks look terrible, hair and outfits wise. Can I get a witness? Heh, they ain't no Carlene Carter, what can I say g. Should this be on the fluff list??? --junior
RE: What Country is Really All About
-Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:34 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: What Country is Really All About I could care less how the Dixie Chicks dress, so no witness here, Matt. I do think it's interesting, though, that the writer of that piece seemed to think that Tammy Wynette and Loretta Lynn wore gingham frocks throughout their careers, which is way, way off-base. [Matt Benz] Yeh, I suppose maybe I shouldn't notice such things. H. Now you have me questioning my whole.oh never mind. G Anyway, I agree with ya, and it probably goes without saying that yeh, maybe Lynn and Wynette didn't have any "empowerment" songs since that word "empowerment" wasn't in use-but songs like "The Pill" "Don't COme Home A Drinkin" etc came close. Sure, maybe it wasn't about deflowering a boy, or throwing your man to the floor for a quickie, but then, it was a different era. Those tunes were pretty damn bold.
RE: What Country is Really All About
Agreed, Jr, and I'm no fashion plate myself. For instance, I think the Mavricks look pretty silly with their faux hipster mafia look, and well, any of those other bands like Diamond Rio need to realize that Chess King closed down back in the 80's. Hell, they make BG bands look like the whip. M -Original Message- From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:46 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: What Country is Really All About Actually, now that I think about it, I don't really care for the "look" of many contemporary country artists. My head's always full of old-time stuff and the way the performers dress now in general just doesn't get it for me. Men *and* women, I'm talking about... --junior
RE: Bing Crosby recommendation?
Heh heh. Isn't "Maggard" Cletus Maggard, of them CB joke albums? I've got one. You know, with a 6 minute plus bit on how Washington crossing the Delaware would've been if they had trucks and cb's. It's a stinker! -Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:20 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Bing Crosby recommendation? Jon Weisberger writes: ...other cool country guys (e.g., Maggard)... Geez, did I write that? More coffee, please. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
