date:20020103


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 12:55:33AM -0500 or thereabouts, Devon wrote:
 On Thursday 03 January 2002 12:00 am, Gary wrote:
  Hello All, I just installed 7.2 today, and am new to the RH distro.. I
  pulled down rpms for Postfix, my daemon of choice,  from a couple of
  sites, and I cannot get the darn thing to install. Low and behold,
  there are dependency errors, the following.
 
  libcrypto.so.1   is needed by postfix-20011125
 
 $ rpm  --redhatprovides libcrypto.so.1
   ^^ ^
Now there is a new one on me. Good to know... I know, RTFM.. g
 openssl096-0.9.6-6

  Now I do not believe that these are on my 7 CDs from RH.  Can anyone
  help me here, so I can get my mailer working in RH..

 You can also get postfix built for Red Hat 7.2 here:
 
 
http://rhcontrib.bero.org/details.php?rpm=RPMS/i386/postfix-20011210-1pcreSASL.i386.rpm
Terrific Devon,
Thanks, we're up and running now, feel much better.

 Hope that helps,

Thanks for your quick response, and good info.


-- 
Best regards,
Gary 

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RE: SSH

2002-01-03 Thread Robert Finneran




There 
are a couple of ways,

The 
easiest way is to install ssh when you first install linux from your redhat 
CD-ROM. If installing rpm's scares you, this is the way to go for 
newbies.

The 
second easy way is to install the openssh*.rpm from your RedHat CD (Usually disk 
1 or 2) For example, use rpm -ivh openssh*.rpm 
orrpm -Uvh openssh*.rpm Also, you probably need to install a few 
other packages that it requires, for example openssl*.rpm. It's worthwhile 
reading up on the rpm utility. It's usually a much faster way to install because 
it hides alot of details from you. 

The 
third way is to build it from source. This is certainly the most flexible way to 
go. When you first install RedHat, make sure you install the software 
development tools. You can retrieve the source from various places, for example 
check out www.openssh.org and www.openssl.org. These site have detailed 
instructions on how to build and install from the source code. It's a great 
learning experience, but you will have to do some reading and learn how to find 
the source sources for free help out there amoung the many open source mailing 
lists and web sites. 

*** 
You will never truly feel the power of the freedom that open source can bring 
until you learn how to (a) download from the open source project's main web 
site, (b) build and (c) install from source (d) get help from other open source 
enthusists (e) complete the cycle by contributing to a project or helping 
others. I know sound religous, but really, it's alot of fun! 
***

That 
said, If I were relativly new to Linux, I would 

(a) 
try to install as much as possible through the install 
process
(b) 
learn how to use rpm by installing a few things with it
(c) 
pick a few projects (topics really important to me) and learn how to build them 
from source
 for example, 
I build my email server (postfix), database (PostgreSQL), DNS server (BIND), 
POP3 server (qpopper), web servers (Apache, Jetty, Tomcat) and all the Java 
project I use from source. Most other things I just try to get by with the 
install or rpm tools.

As far 
as ssh on win32 goes, so far, I have only used ssh with cygwin and I've paid for 
a ssh client from www.f-secure.com. But I 
am looking for some other free ssh clients.

Happy 
New Year!!!


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Madhvi 
  NundalaleeSent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:39 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SSH
  hello
  
  How do I set up SSH on my Linux server and on a 
  win2K client PC
  
  
  Cheers
  madhvi

Re: ext3 or ext2 ?

2002-01-03 Thread Adam Haupt


You wont regret it.  


Dominic Mitchell wrote:


Thanks all for your advices, 

I have chosen to give a try at ext3.  Anyway, this machine could
fail without being a major pain.  If it does not, well all the
better. 

Cheers,

Dominic.



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Re: postfix problem


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 04:13 am, Gary wrote:

  $ rpm  --redhatprovides libcrypto.so.1

^^ ^
 Now there is a new one on me. Good to know... I know, RTFM.. g

To use the above command, install the rpmdb-redhat-7.2-0.20010924.i386.rpm
package from cd2. It is quite handy to have.

  http://rhcontrib.bero.org/details.php?rpm=RPMS/i386/postfix-20011210-
 1pcreSASL.i386.rpm

 Terrific Devon,
 Thanks, we're up and running now, feel much better.

 Thanks for your quick response, and good info.

You're welcome, glad it helped.

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Re: Make : tex Command

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Liu


Hi Devon,

I have 2 Linux boxes, one running Mandrake 8.1 and another RH 7.2.  Now I 
understand that I can't mix use of the package.

RH7.2
Stephen
I found tetex-1.0.7-30.i386.rpm in RH7.2 CD and performed following test

# rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom1/RedHat/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-30.i386.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
dialog is needed by tetex-1.0.7-30
rpmdb: Item 118 on page 547 hashes incorrectly
error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database 
verification failed

Stephen
I found dialog-0.9a-5.i386.rpm and dialog-0.9a-5.src.rpm from Internet and 
continued the test as follows :

# rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Tetex/RH7.2/dialog-0.9a-5.i386.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
   1:dialog ### [100%]
rpmdb: Item 118 on page 547 hashes incorrectly
error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database 
verification failed 

Stephen
Failed.
Rebuild dialog-0.9a-5.src.rpm successful  as follows ;

# rpm --rebuild /mnt/cdrom/Tetex/RH7.2/dialog-0.9a-5.src.rpm
Installing /mnt/cdrom/Tetex/RH7.2/dialog-0.9a-5.src.rpm
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39848
+ umask 022 
+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
+ rm -rf dialog-0.9a-20010527
+ /bin/gzip -dc /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/dialog-0.9a-20010527.tar.gz

... 
Executing(%clean): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73940
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
+ cd dialog-0.9a-20010527
+ rm -rf /var/tmp/dialog-root
+ exit 0 
Executing(--clean): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73940
+ umask 022 
+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
+ rm -rf dialog-0.9a-20010527
+ exit 0
 
# rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom1/RedHat/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-30.i386.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
   1:tetex  ### [100%]
rpmdb: Item 118 on page 547 hashes incorrectly 
error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database 
verification failed

Stephen
Still failed
 
Devon
At 10:59 PM 1/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: 
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If you are still trying to build jadetex from the source rpm, just grab  
the precompiled binary from the Red Hat updates site.
 
This should do it:
wget updates.redhat.com:/7.2/en/os/noarch/jadetex-3.11-4.noarch.rpm 

That package, by the way, requires: 
$ rpm -qp --requires jadetex-3.11-4.noarch.rpm
sgml-common = 0.5 
tetex = 0.9
tetex-latex = 0.9 
jade

Stephen
I will try later

Thanks

Stephen



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RE: Making my serial BBS work over the internet

2002-01-03 Thread Burke, Thomas G.

Yes, but I already have the BBS, the setup scripts, the whole works...  The
problem with a new BBS is that none of the doors that I currently have
would work under the *nix environment - they're all DOS based.

-Original Message-
From: Justin Zygmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:33 PM
To: Burke, Thomas G.
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Making my serial BBS work over the internet

most online systems and BBS's just use an internet connection, there's not
much need for 10 phone lines anymore.  I've written what I think is a
pretty good program for this.  telnet://solarflow.dyndns.org

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Burke, Thomas G. wrote:

 Hey gang,

   I used to run a BBS (Speedy's Dilemma, if you care)...  I still have
 all the software  (I think) the scripts too.

   The BBS could handle 10 modems/phone lines.  The BBS was also DOS
 based.  It ran, and did it's own listening for the various modems.

   I would like to set up the BBS to run on a computer.  I would like
 to have someone be able to telnet into the BBS and do all the same stuff
 they used to be able to do.  I would like to have up to 10 sessions at
 once...

   Is it possible?

   How?

   My thought is to maybe assign 10 different ports, one to each serial
 line, and go from there.  I suppose I could have my firewall forward
 connections to an internal machine, but there's the question of how to do
 this in DOS.  My 2nd thought is to run the BBS under dosemu (which I've
 never had much luck with, BTW), and have it run on the server.

   Any thoughts on how to do this?

   TIA,
   Tom

 FYI:  The BBS is Wildcat! Multiline 10, v6

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Re: Make : tex Command


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 08:08 am, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi Devon,

 I have 2 Linux boxes, one running Mandrake 8.1 and another RH 7.2.  Now
 I understand that I can't mix use of the package.

 RH7.2
 Stephen
 I found tetex-1.0.7-30.i386.rpm in RH7.2 CD and performed following
 test

 # rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom1/RedHat/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-30.i386.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 dialog is needed by tetex-1.0.7-30
 rpmdb: Item 118 on page 547 hashes incorrectly
 error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database
 verification failed

Ok, we're getting there. ;)

It looks like your rpm database is broken.

Try rpm --rebuilddb

That should take care of it.

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Relay from external domains not happening

2002-01-03 Thread Ganesh HariHaran

Title: Relay from external domains not happening




I want to relay mails from different domain thru my sendmail. How it is
to be done??

my mail domainname is userforall.com 


i want domains...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

to relay thru my sendmail server userforall.com

How it is to be done..

am using sendmail 8.9

I tried it relay-domains file , still its not working



thanks 
Ganeshh

RE:mass file renaming

2002-01-03 Thread Gregg Morris


Gabriel,

The easiest way (if you have less than, say, 1000 files to rename)
would be to use the Emacs function in dired, M-x dired-downcase
(rename all marked files to lower case -- or use a numerical
argument.)

If you have lots and lots of files, a bash script or perl script would
be better.

Regards,
Gregg


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gabriel i can't be the only one to have asked this but how do you
gabriel convert the case of a whole load of files

gabriel ie: convert FiLE.Txt to file.txt

gabriel without doing the following: rename A a * rename B b *
gabriel rename C c * ...

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Re: SSH

2002-01-03 Thread Jeff Bearer


you can install openssh on windows also, it works well, but you are
working in a plain command window so the UI isn't as powerful as if you
use SecureCRT or some other terminal software.

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 02:38, Madhvi Nundalalee wrote:
 hello
 
 How do I set up SSH on my Linux server and on a win2K client PC
 
 
 Cheers
 madhvi
-- 
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Re: Multiple IP Address and Multiple Gateways

2002-01-03 Thread James Pifer


So can I just add another GATEWAY line like this?

NETWORKING=yes
GATEWAYDEV=
FORWARD_IPV4=no
HOSTNAME=host
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
GATEWAY=192.168.2.1

Thanks.


At 05:02 PM 1/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Gateways get set in file /etc/sysconfig/network file.

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, James Pifer wrote:

  I'm going to replace a Windows NT server with Redhat 7.2.  The NT server
  has one NIC but several IP addresses on a multi-netted segment.
 
  For example, it has a main IP address of 192.168.1.2 with the gateway 
 being
  192.168.1.1.
  It also has virtual addresses of 192.168.1.3, 192.168.1.4.
 
  It has another virtual IP address of 192.168.2.2 and another gateway of
  192.168.2.1.
  It then has a few more virtual IP's on this subnet. 192.168.2.3, 
 192.168.2.4.
 
  This is all configured in the Advanced TCPIP properties of NT Server 4.0.
 
  Where do I set this up on Linux? I have added virtual IP's but I'm not 
 sure
  about where to add additional gateways.
 
  Thanks,
  James
 
 
 
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Re: postfix problem

2002-01-03 Thread Mike Burger


On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Gary wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 09:43:39PM -0800 or thereabouts, Robert Finneran wrote:
  Hey Gary,
  
  I also run postfix as my email server.
 
 Terrific, makes 2 smart guys on this list.. hee, hee..

I've been promoting Postfix for quite a while, now, on these lists. G



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RE: postfix problem

2002-01-03 Thread Mike Burger


On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Robert Finneran wrote:

 Hey Gary,
 
 I also run postfix as my email server.
 
 The libssl  libcrypto library files get installed with the openssl .rpm's
 I'm not sure where libdb-3.1.so comes from.

libd-3.1.so comes from the Berkeley DB package.

http://rpmfind.net shows it as part of db31-3.1.17.i386.rpm, and can be 
downloaded, directly, from the following URL:

ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/db31-3.1.17-1.i386.rpm



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RE: Making my serial BBS work over the internet

2002-01-03 Thread Mike Burger


Then they probably won't work under the existing BBS, under Linux.

However, if you can get the BBS running under Linux, then it should be 
fairly trivial to have any new BBS call those doors using dosemu, passing 
the appropriate parameters to it.

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Burke, Thomas G. wrote:

 Yes, but I already have the BBS, the setup scripts, the whole works...  The
 problem with a new BBS is that none of the doors that I currently have
 would work under the *nix environment - they're all DOS based.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Zygmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:33 PM
 To: Burke, Thomas G.
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: Making my serial BBS work over the internet
 
 
 most online systems and BBS's just use an internet connection, there's not
 much need for 10 phone lines anymore.  I've written what I think is a
 pretty good program for this.  telnet://solarflow.dyndns.org
 
 
 
 On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Burke, Thomas G. wrote:
 
  Hey gang,
 
  I used to run a BBS (Speedy's Dilemma, if you care)...  I still have
  all the software  (I think) the scripts too.
 
  The BBS could handle 10 modems/phone lines.  The BBS was also DOS
  based.  It ran, and did it's own listening for the various modems.
 
 
  I would like to set up the BBS to run on a computer.  I would like
  to have someone be able to telnet into the BBS and do all the same stuff
  they used to be able to do.  I would like to have up to 10 sessions at
  once...
 
  Is it possible?
 
  How?
 
  My thought is to maybe assign 10 different ports, one to each serial
  line, and go from there.  I suppose I could have my firewall forward
  connections to an internal machine, but there's the question of how to do
  this in DOS.  My 2nd thought is to run the BBS under dosemu (which I've
  never had much luck with, BTW), and have it run on the server.
 
  Any thoughts on how to do this?
 
  TIA,
  Tom
 
  FYI:  The BBS is Wildcat! Multiline 10, v6
 
 
 
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Networking Problem

2002-01-03 Thread Aishah Taylor




Hello all:
  I have three computers running RedHat Linux 7.1.
My problem is that I can login computer1, computer2 and computer3 sequentialy.
But when I try to login to computer1 from compter3 or computer2 from computer3
I get the message "rcmd: Developer.EzraTech.cm : Connection
reset by peer". Note, I set the firewall to none using lokkit on computers
and enabled the necessary networking features in the xnetd.d directory. 
Could some inform me what I'm doin wrong.  Please E-mail me the solution.
Thank you
Ezra Taylor

Re: Small Linux distro

2002-01-03 Thread Manuel Camacho


It mostly depends on what you want to do. I suggest you to look at the 
HOWTOs first. There is one (which name I don't have on hand) that is about 
running Linux on 8 MB laptops.

You may think about Peanut Linux, Tiny Linux, or creating your own set of 
files (take a look at the Linux From Scratch HOWTO).

-Manuel.

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Subject: Small Linux distro

 I am looking to install linux on an old laptop, specifically a 486SX25
 MHz 
 processor with 8M RAM and a 127 MB hard drive. I don't think that there
 is 
 any chance of getting RedHat on it, at least not 7.2. Can anyone
 suggest a 
 linux distro that would be capable? Would an older version of RH be a
 good 
 fit? 
 
 Ian. 
 
 Ian Truelsen
 Masters program in Philosophy
 University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
 BA (Wilfrid Laurier University)
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gnome screensaver

2002-01-03 Thread Kenneth Jacker


I recently upgraded my RH7.1 system to RH7.2 + updates.

Something is out of wack with the screensaver functionality under
gnome. Enabling random mode via ../Desktop/Screensaver causes
random images but *simultaneously*!  So, my load average goes through
the roof.  Also, at that point the control panel is hosed ... only
way to get rid of it is logging in to a virtual console as 'root' and
killing it.

I've tried to solve things by xset s off, checking processes, config
files, etc., and also searched the WWW, but am out of ideas.

Below I've appended what I feel is relevant output from rpm -qa.

(During a lull while writing this letter the xscreensaver started up
even though I have No Screensaver set in the gnome panel ... weird!)

Your solution to this problem will be appreciated!

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Appalachian State Univ
Boone, NC  28608  USA

   
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   gdk-pixbuf-gnome-0.11.0-8
   gnome-applets-1.4.0.1-6
   gnome-audio-1.0.0-12
   gnome-audio-extra-1.0.0-12
   gnome-core-1.4.0.4-38
   gnome-core-devel-1.4.0.4-38
   gnome-games-1.4.0.1-4
   gnome-games-devel-1.4.0.1-4
   gnomeicu-0.96.1-3
   gnome-libs-1.2.13-16
   gnome-libs-devel-1.2.13-16
   gnome-linuxconf-0.67.1-1
   gnome-lokkit-0.50-6
   gnome-media-1.2.3-4
   gnome-network-1.0.2-3
   gnome-objc-1.0.2-11
   gnome-objc-devel-1.0.2-11
   gnome-pim-1.2.0-13
   gnome-pim-devel-1.2.0-13
   gnome-print-0.29-6
   gnome-print-devel-0.29-6
   gnome-user-docs-1.4.1-1
   gnome-utils-1.4.0-4
   gnome-vfs-1.0.1-17
   gnome-vfs-devel-1.0.1-17
   gnome-vfs-extras-0.1.3-1
   libgnomeprint11-0.25-9
   libgnomeprint15-0.29-6
   licq-gnome-1.0.3-7
   rep-gtk-gnome-0.15-1
   xlockmore-4.17.2-4
   xscreensaver-3.33-4
   XFree86-4.1.0-3, ...



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Re: mass file renaming

2002-01-03 Thread Ted


On Wednesday 02 January 2002 23:26, gabriel wrote:
 i can't be the only one to have asked this
 but how do you convert the case of a whole load of files

 ie: convert FiLE.Txt to file.txt

 without doing the following:
 rename A a *
 rename B b *
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Debian Linux has chcase to do this...Might be worth a d/load if it is not on 
RedHat

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Rehat-list digest, Vol 1 #3479

2002-01-03 Thread Szemerédy Gábor


Hello!
I did not receive #3479!


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[OT] Bounces to my email address

2002-01-03 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz


All:

I screwed up my mailserver yesterday, and for about 24 hours messages to my 
email address may have bounced. Apologies to all if the bounces made it 
onto the lists... (everything *should* be OK now).


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Detecting Bringup interface eth0 problem

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Liu


Hi All People,

RH 7.2

Each time on booting when it comes to detecting  Bringup interface eth0 
it takes quite long time to detect it, disregarding whether broadband cable 
connected or disconnected.

Is there any way to accelerate its detection.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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DNS, Architecture, General Question

2002-01-03 Thread Ben Ocean


Hi;
I'm going to be building a robust, complex Web portal that, among other 
things, may offer free email accounts. These POP3 accounts would run 
through qmail and authenticate through OpenLDAP (and Kerberos V behind all 
that). I currently don't host my own DNS, although if I offer the free 
email accounts, I'm sure I will have to do that. I've installed all the 
requisite tools on my server to develop this portal. I'm currently 
schematizing the architecture and am vitally concerned about how POP3 email 
accounts would be integrated. Would someone please offer a few sentences of 
advice on this topic and a resource or two to consult? Again, the 
architecture will integrate qmail, OpenLDAP and DNS.
TIA,
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Re: [OT] Bounces to my email address

2002-01-03 Thread David Talkington


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Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

I screwed up my mailserver yesterday, and for about 24 hours messages to my 
email address may have bounced. Apologies to all if the bounces made it 
onto the lists... (everything *should* be OK now).

That's the unfortunate thing about internet mail server 
administration.  When you screw it up, it's a very public event.  :-)

My condolences, Brother Paiz.
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Re: Problems getting RH 7.2 to boot properly

2002-01-03 Thread Duane Clark


Silviu wrote:

 
 Please pardon me, but when exactly did it seem to you like a
 good idea to post a mail of about 1MB in size to this group ?
 
 


While I agree with that sentiment, there is also no excuse for the 
Redhat-list to pass along messages like that. This list uses mailman 
to run the list, and mailman has a setting for Maximum length in Kb of 
a message body. I really think that about 3KB would be an appropriate 
setting.

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Re: Redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #3479

2002-01-03 Thread Duane Clark


Szemerédy wrote:

 Hello!
 I did not receive #3479!
 


Consider yourself lucky, since it was more than a MB! I suspect your ISP 
bounced it for being too big.

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Re: Multiple IP Address and Multiple Gateways


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:45:19AM -0500, James Pifer wrote:
 So can I just add another GATEWAY line like this?
 
 NETWORKING=yes
 GATEWAYDEV=
 FORWARD_IPV4=no
 HOSTNAME=host
 GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
 GATEWAY=192.168.2.1

Not if the networking scripts work anything like they used to in 6.x.
That file is just included to provide shell variables to scripts ifup
and friends.  An identical GATEWAY statement would just overwrite the
earlier assignment.

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Sendmail with dnsbl option

2002-01-03 Thread Jon Hoffman


Hi,
I want to configure our mail server to reject spam.  I know I want to edit
the sendmail.mc file and put in FEATURE(dnsbl) but not really sure what
needs to be done with the configurationl.  Has anyone set this up before?
If so what needs to be done to make sure I do not take the mail server down
for any length of time :O).

Thank you

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OT: really big e-mails


Hi,

Excuse this off-topic post.  At our company of about 30 people, there
are some who insist on sending e-mails with huge attachments, like 20-50
MB.  Yes, megabytes.  They'll send these e-mails to everyone in the
company and also to clients.  I've suggested that with such big files,
it would be better to place them in a common networked folder for
internal business, or on our ftp site for clients, and give people the
download instructions.  But I guess it's just too easy to send
ridiculously large e-mails.  My question is, are there any sound
technical arguments against sending such large e-mails, like unnecessary
use of bandwidth?  Thanks,



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Re: OT: really big e-mails


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:39:18AM -0800, Hidong Kim wrote:
 Excuse this off-topic post.  At our company ..., there
 are some who insist on sending e-mails with huge attachments, like 20-50
 MB.  ... They'll send these e-mails to everyone in the
 company and also to clients.  ...  My question is, are there any sound
 technical arguments against sending such large e-mails, like unnecessary
 use of bandwidth?  Thanks,

Many.  Excessive and unnecessary use of local disk storage (a copy for
EVERY user's inbox AND, once read, their mail store), backup media and
backup time requirements, LAN and WAN bandwidth for preparation and
delivery, mail forwarder's storage, CPU cycles for processing delivery
and virus scanning, probably lack of interest by most recipients.

You can limit the size of E-mail in sendmail.  If this is a real problem,
and you either have the right to set policy or have the ear of the CIO,
it's not an unreasonable policy to require attachments over a certain
size be disseminated by other means.

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Re: OT: really big e-mails

2002-01-03 Thread Dave Reed


 From: Hidong Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 
 Excuse this off-topic post.  At our company of about 30 people, there
 are some who insist on sending e-mails with huge attachments, like 20-50
 MB.  Yes, megabytes.  They'll send these e-mails to everyone in the
 company and also to clients.  I've suggested that with such big files,
 it would be better to place them in a common networked folder for
 internal business, or on our ftp site for clients, and give people the
 download instructions.  But I guess it's just too easy to send
 ridiculously large e-mails.  My question is, are there any sound
 technical arguments against sending such large e-mails, like unnecessary
 use of bandwidth?  Thanks,
 
 Hidong

I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines) sent
a 50MB or so message to a couple hundred internal email
addresses. Between people downloading the message and it trying to
send the message, the machine was crippled for a couple hours.

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Re: OT: really big e-mails


Dave Reed wrote:
 
 
 I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
 staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines)

I can sympathize with this situation.  I'm actually the VP of Ops at our
company.  I've also defaulted to doing the Linux sysadmin (pretty scary
for us!).  Our real IT crew is so totally Windows that it's not even
funny.  And the biggest perp on the huge e-mail attachments is our
President (who uses Outlook).  But back to the technical problem, how
does sending e-mails to multiple people eat up more bandwidth than
placing the e-mail in a directory for download?  Assuming that all of
the recipients of the e-mail are interested in reading the attachment,
it seems to me that both scenarios would consume the same bandwidth. 
No?  Thanks,



Hidong






 sent
 a 50MB or so message to a couple hundred internal email
 addresses. Between people downloading the message and it trying to
 send the message, the machine was crippled for a couple hours.
 
 Dave
 
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RE: OT: really big e-mails

2002-01-03 Thread Michael R. Dilworth

Read up on uuencode...  Binary attachments are encoded.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hidong Kim
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: really big e-mails

Dave Reed wrote:

 I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
 staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines)

I can sympathize with this situation.  I'm actually the VP of Ops at our
company.  I've also defaulted to doing the Linux sysadmin (pretty scary
for us!).  Our real IT crew is so totally Windows that it's not even
funny.  And the biggest perp on the huge e-mail attachments is our
President (who uses Outlook).  But back to the technical problem, how
does sending e-mails to multiple people eat up more bandwidth than
placing the e-mail in a directory for download?  Assuming that all of
the recipients of the e-mail are interested in reading the attachment,
it seems to me that both scenarios would consume the same bandwidth. 
No?  Thanks,

Hidong

 sent
 a 50MB or so message to a couple hundred internal email
 addresses. Between people downloading the message and it trying to
 send the message, the machine was crippled for a couple hours.

 Dave

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Re: External USB Fantom Drive, RH 7.1

2002-01-03 Thread Edward C. Bailey


 Wartnick, == Wartnick, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wartnick,  I just purchased an external USB fantom drive for my
Wartnick, laptop. When I boot RH 7.1, it seems like it recognizes the
Wartnick, drive (which I seemed to have forgotten to include in the log
Wartnick, below), but doesn't give me a device for it.  I found a message
Wartnick, stating that there is no driver for a device (not sure if it is
Wartnick, the fantom drive or not). Anyone got any ideas?

For all things USB, I check www.linux-usb.org and www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/

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Re: Detecting Bringup interface eth0 problem

2002-01-03 Thread Justin Ellison


If you mean that it takes forever and a day to realize that it's not on
the network, than pass a timeout value by adding the line:

DHCPCDARGS=-t 10

to the file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.

That makes the DHCP client give up after 10 seconds.

HTH,

Justin

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 10:34, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi All People,
 
 RH 7.2
 
 Each time on booting when it comes to detecting  Bringup interface eth0 
 it takes quite long time to detect it, disregarding whether broadband cable 
 connected or disconnected.
 
 Is there any way to accelerate its detection.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 B.R.
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Re: OT: really big e-mails

2002-01-03 Thread Dave Reed



Also, with people downloading it, it probably doesn't happen all at
the same time whereas sending it as an e-mail causes the machine to be
very busy all at once and puts a high strain on the disk, CPU, and
bandwidth. It's much less of a problem if people download it at
different times.

Dave


 From: Michael R. Dilworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Read up on uuencode...  Binary attachments are encoded.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hidong Kim
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: really big e-mails
 
 
 Dave Reed wrote:
  
  
  I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
  staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines)
 
 I can sympathize with this situation.  I'm actually the VP of Ops at our
 company.  I've also defaulted to doing the Linux sysadmin (pretty scary
 for us!).  Our real IT crew is so totally Windows that it's not even
 funny.  And the biggest perp on the huge e-mail attachments is our
 President (who uses Outlook).  But back to the technical problem, how
 does sending e-mails to multiple people eat up more bandwidth than
 placing the e-mail in a directory for download?  Assuming that all of
 the recipients of the e-mail are interested in reading the attachment,
 it seems to me that both scenarios would consume the same bandwidth. 
 No?  Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: USB mouse on laptop w/touchpad

2002-01-03 Thread Edward C. Bailey


 Jeff == Jeff Jeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jeff I hope this is the right list.  If not, tell me an i'll repost I have
Jeff a laptop running RedHat 7.2.  Often i attach an external USB wheel
Jeff mouse.  When it is attached, however, the touchpad is still active.
Jeff How do I make the USB mouse (w/ wheel) active.  It doesn't matter if
Jeff the touchpad is also active.

Since you're running 7.2, you can try enigma-list; but maybe this will give
you a bit of a head-start.  It's a couple snippets from my XF86Config-4; my
comments will look like [** this **]:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceMouse1 SendCoreEvents

[** The ServerLayout section is just as the 7.2 installer wrote it, with
the exception of the additional line for Mouse1 **]

InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

[** ... **]

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  AlwaysCore on
EndSection

[** This InputDevice section is added just below the original section for
Mouse0; my understanding is that the Protocol, Device, and AlwaysCore
options are important **]

The strange this about this for me was that I first did this on a Vaio
PictureBook, and had to freshly boot the system in order for the mouse to
be recognized by X (restarting X alone didn't do it).  I then bought a new
USB mouse for my desktop (replacing an old PS/2 unit), and making these
changes worked as soon as I restarted X -- no reboot needed.

However, one thing that I've not yet gotten to work properly is to be able
to simply plug/unplug the mouse and have everything work the way one would
think it should.  I still need to do some research into this...

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Re: OT: really big e-mails

2002-01-03 Thread Anthony E. Greene


At 11:00 AM 1/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Dave Reed wrote:
 
 
  I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
  staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines)

I can sympathize with this situation.  I'm actually the VP of Ops at our
company.  I've also defaulted to doing the Linux sysadmin (pretty scary
for us!).  Our real IT crew is so totally Windows that it's not even
funny.  And the biggest perp on the huge e-mail attachments is our
President (who uses Outlook).  But back to the technical problem, how
does sending e-mails to multiple people eat up more bandwidth than
placing the e-mail in a directory for download?  Assuming that all of
the recipients of the e-mail are interested in reading the attachment,
it seems to me that both scenarios would consume the same bandwidth.
No?  Thanks,

The bandwidth effects would be approximately the same for internal users, 
but the storage requirements still go up since one copy would be in each 
recipients mailbox. Another problem is that the mail server would slow down 
as it handled access by multiple users. Slow file servers are one thing. 
Slow mail servers are a high-visibility problem.

There is also the fact that, regardless of the feelings of the sender, many 
recipients will not be interested in the attachment and will not download it.


Tony
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System is hanging with 'LI' only showing



We just installed several RH 7.2 machines and a handfull of them have
the following problem:

When the system boots it hangs when LILO is supposed to appear. All we
see is 'LI' and then nothing.

I tried using a dos boot disk with 'fdisk /mbr'
I then tried booting from a RH 7.2 boot disk and running lilo again but 
it still hangs.

We did about 250 nodes and the same image was used for all, we have maybe
7-8 that have this problem.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

2002-01-03 Thread steve


I had the same problem - still unresolved as to cause
I ended up having to wipe my HDD and do a fresh install of 7.1 ... and am now 
having troubles updating packages and erratta. 
  Currently have RH 7.1, kernel 2.4.2 running but RHN update agent keeps 
looking for newer versions of certain files and upon not finding them sends a 
'file not found error and aborts the upgrade.

please let the list know if you find a solution.
thanks

ps ... my machine was setup using Intel boot agent (v2.2) instead of LILO - 
could this be part of the problem??

Steve

n Thursday 03 January 2002 03:04 pm, you wrote:
 We just installed several RH 7.2 machines and a handfull of them have
 the following problem:

 When the system boots it hangs when LILO is supposed to appear. All we
 see is 'LI' and then nothing.

 I tried using a dos boot disk with 'fdisk /mbr'
 I then tried booting from a RH 7.2 boot disk and running lilo again but
 it still hangs.

 We did about 250 nodes and the same image was used for all, we have maybe
 7-8 that have this problem.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks,
 CC



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Re: Windows True Type Fonts installer package

2002-01-03 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer


On Jan 2, 2002, 01:06 (-0500) Devon wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On Tuesday 01 January 2002 04:52 pm, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  Hi Devon,

[ ... multi-snipped ... ]


  and I changed  /etc/X11/XF86Config:
  commented the following line out, like so:
  #FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
 
  and added the following one:
  FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype

 I believe you want to comment that line out. That forces the Xserver to
 ignore the fontserver, unless I am mistaken. You should have something
 like:

 # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
 # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
 # the X server to render fonts.

 FontPath   unix/:7100


I see here in my XF86Config (after Font Path - truetype - change):

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
#FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
FontPath   unix/:-1

see the line:
FontPath   unix/:-1
?

OK, now shutting down X and restarting it in a minute ... let's see
what happens ... [after X restart:] no, everything seems to be OK ..

Thanks again.

Regards
Wolfgang


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Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

2002-01-03 Thread Francisco Neira


Hi,

Maybe this helps

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/82/1999/4/0/1651603/ 


Regards,

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Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

2002-01-03 Thread eric clover


i recall having this problem a long time ago.
i don't know the exact solution but i can recall
some things to get you going.

i remember doing a fdisk /mbr on the hd
and then reinstalling lilo. the exact steps taken
i do not recall. a search on google might be in order.

i hope in some way this helps.
eric

- Original Message - 
From: Rhugga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: [RHL] System is hanging with 'LI' only showing



We just installed several RH 7.2 machines and a handfull of them have
the following problem:

When the system boots it hangs when LILO is supposed to appear. All we
see is 'LI' and then nothing.

I tried using a dos boot disk with 'fdisk /mbr'
I then tried booting from a RH 7.2 boot disk and running lilo again but 
it still hangs.

We did about 250 nodes and the same image was used for all, we have maybe
7-8 that have this problem.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
CC



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dhcpd server

2002-01-03 Thread Patrick Lankhorst




Hi,

I'm trying to set up a dhcp server, but I can't get 
it to work.
The server has two interfaces, eth0 for LAN, with 
IP 192.168.0.1, eth1 for Internet, IP 212.204.143.159. The box is masquerading 
for a Win box.
Whenever I try /usr/sbin/dhcpd to start the daemon, 
it keeps nagging about "Address range 212.204.143.159 to 212.204.143.159 not on 
net 212.204.143.159/255.255.252.0" and the program exits. I get the IP 
foreth1 through dhcp from my cable-provider, and these numbers I got by 
"ifconfig eth1", and put them in dhcpd.conf.

Can someone please explain to me what I must do to 
get it right?

Thanks

Patrick Lankhorst

Re: dhcpd server - solved

2002-01-03 Thread Patrick Lankhorst





  I think I've got it working already. I just tried 
  IP 212.204.0.0/255.255.0.0 for eth1 in dhcpd.conf. Now It's starting like it 
  should.
I would like to know what I did wrong exactly, 
though.
  
  Hi,
  
  I'm trying to set up a dhcp server, but I can't 
  get it to work.
  The server has two interfaces, eth0 for LAN, with 
  IP 192.168.0.1, eth1 for Internet, IP 212.204.143.159. The box is masquerading 
  for a Win box.
  Whenever I try /usr/sbin/dhcpd to start the 
  daemon, it keeps nagging about "Address range 212.204.143.159 to 
  212.204.143.159 not on net 212.204.143.159/255.255.252.0" and the program 
  exits. I get the IP foreth1 through dhcp from my cable-provider, and 
  these numbers I got by "ifconfig eth1", and put them in 
  dhcpd.conf.
  
  Can someone please explain to me what I must do 
  to get it right?
  
  Thanks
  
  Patrick 
Lankhorst

Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing




Yea, I have re-imaged one of these problem systems three times now, reinstalled
lilo, played with every option lilo has and nothing. I just used fdisk to write
a Sun magic number to the disk and now LILO booted but the system was of course 
hosed. I am currently pushing a new image to see if this jerry-rig approach
works.

-CC
 i recall having this problem a long time ago.
 i don't know the exact solution but i can recall
 some things to get you going.
 
 i remember doing a fdisk /mbr on the hd
 and then reinstalling lilo. the exact steps taken
 i do not recall. a search on google might be in order.
 
 i hope in some way this helps.
 eric
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rhugga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:04 PM
 Subject: [RHL] System is hanging with 'LI' only showing
 
 
 
 We just installed several RH 7.2 machines and a handfull of them have
 the following problem:
 
 When the system boots it hangs when LILO is supposed to appear. All we
 see is 'LI' and then nothing.
 
 I tried using a dos boot disk with 'fdisk /mbr'
 I then tried booting from a RH 7.2 boot disk and running lilo again but 
 it still hangs.
 
 We did about 250 nodes and the same image was used for all, we have maybe
 7-8 that have this problem.
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 CC
 
 
 
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RE: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

2002-01-03 Thread Brad Bonkoski

Title: RE: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

you should just be able to boot using a rescue CD-Rom or floppy, mount the root partition of the hard drive and then do a 'chroot' on it and rerun '/sbin/lilo'

it is typically a mismatch between the MBR and the Motherboard, i.e. you might get this problem when you hook up an old hard drive with a Linux filesystem into a new computer.

-Brad

-Original Message-
From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing

I had the same problem - still unresolved as to cause
I ended up having to wipe my HDD and do a fresh install of
7.1 ... and am now
having troubles updating packages and erratta.
Currently have RH 7.1, kernel 2.4.2 running but RHN update
agent keeps
looking for newer versions of certain files and upon not
finding them sends a
'file not found error and aborts the upgrade.

please let the list know if you find a solution.
thanks

ps ... my machine was setup using Intel boot agent (v2.2)
instead of LILO -
could this be part of the problem??

Steve

n Thursday 03 January 2002 03:04 pm, you wrote:
We just installed several RH 7.2 machines and a handfull of
them have
the following problem:

When the system boots it hangs when LILO is supposed to
appear. All we
see is 'LI' and then nothing.

I tried using a dos boot disk with 'fdisk /mbr'
I then tried booting from a RH 7.2 boot disk and running
lilo again but
it still hangs.

We did about 250 nodes and the same image was used for all,
we have maybe
7-8 that have this problem.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
CC

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Re: System is hanging with 'LI' only showing


 
 Silly question: Have you seen if the BIOS configuration is _exactly_ the same in the 
boxes that work and the ones that don't?
 
 Hope this helps
 
 
 Francisco
 
 

Someone please explain this. I removed this entry from lilo.conf:
serial=0,9600n8

I have 250 nodes all with the same hardware, same image, same everything,
but 7 of these nodes would hang at LILO, apparently because of this entry.

Any ideas?


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Re: OT: really big e-mails


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:00:03AM -0800, Hidong Kim wrote:
 But back to the technical problem, how does sending e-mails to multiple
 people eat up more bandwidth than placing the e-mail in a directory
 for download?  Assuming that all of the recipients of the e-mail
 are interested in reading the attachment, it seems to me that both
 scenarios would consume the same bandwidth.  No?  Thanks,

Well, it's very different for several reasons.

First, as has been pointed out, when E-mailed, willy-nilly the mail server
is going to get hit with moving all the attachments at the same time.
Even assuming every single intended recipient really not only wants
to see the attachment, but wants to download their own, personal copy,
this will still be spread out over time as people get to it.

Secondly, it'll be the file server, not the mail server, carrying the
load--usually better suited to the task, and less visible.

Third, most people WON'T want their own copy--they'll probably open it
over the network, meaning that depending on the content, it'll be loaded
more sporadically, reducing the instantaneous network bandwidth required;
and there won't be local copies chewing up disk space.  (This last will
happen more reliably if people are confident that the single network
copy is safe and accessable; if they think it's going to get deleted in
a few days, they're more likely to snag a copy.)

Finally, out of any particular group mailing, a fair number of people
simply won't care, taking them out of the resource-hogging pool.

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Re: Sendmail 8.11.6 for Red Hat 6.2

2002-01-03 Thread Mark Neidorff


I had no problem and I am not aware of any.  Sorry I can't help.

Mark

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, gary wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
 Did u use the SMTP Auth for Sendmail-8.11.6 on RH6.2???
 I have some problem to enable it 
 Any advise for this
 
 Thanks,
 gary
 
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  Works just fine for me.
 
  Mark
 
  On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   I want to know sendmail 8.11.6 is good for work with Red hat 6.2 ?
   ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/i386/sendmail-8.11.6-1.6.y.i386.rpm
  
 ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/i386/sendmail-cf-8.11.6-1.6.y.i386.rpm
  
 ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/i386/sendmail-doc-8.11.6-1.6.y.i386.rpm
  
   Thank for your help !
  
   Edward.
  
  
  
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StartSSL Won't

2002-01-03 Thread Ben Ocean


Hi;
startssl apparently isn't an option with the apachectl that I'm running. 
What do I do?

#/etc/httpd/bin/apachectl startssl
usage: /etc/httpd/bin/apachectl 
(start|stop|restart|fullstatus|status|graceful|configtest|help)

start  - start httpd
stop   - stop httpd
restart- restart httpd if running by sending a SIGHUP or start if
  not running
fullstatus - dump a full status screen; requires lynx and mod_status enabled
status - dump a short status screen; requires lynx and mod_status enabled
graceful   - do a graceful restart by sending a SIGUSR1 or start if not running
configtest - do a configuration syntax test
help   - this screen

TIA,
BenO




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RE: StartSSL Won't

2002-01-03 Thread Brad Bonkoski

Title: RE: StartSSL Won't





build ssl into Apache


There is good documentation on www.modssl.org


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: StartSSL Won't
 
 
 Hi;
 startssl apparently isn't an option with the apachectl that 
 I'm running. 
 What do I do?
 
 #/etc/httpd/bin/apachectl startssl
 usage: /etc/httpd/bin/apachectl 
 (start|stop|restart|fullstatus|status|graceful|configtest|help)
 
 start - start httpd
 stop - stop httpd
 restart - restart httpd if running by sending a SIGHUP or start if
 not running
 fullstatus - dump a full status screen; requires lynx and 
 mod_status enabled
 status - dump a short status screen; requires lynx and 
 mod_status enabled
 graceful - do a graceful restart by sending a SIGUSR1 or 
 start if not running
 configtest - do a configuration syntax test
 help - this screen
 
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questions about named and sendmail


Hello folks, I'm brand new on the list.
Using RH 7.2, KDE - new install.

1) I'm having problems configuring sendmail: I successfully added sendmail 
into linuxconf's list of managed services, but linuxconf seems to have 
problems with cursor positioning as I edit the various fields. Secondly, 
and more important, I'm a little hazy on a few sendmail configuration 
details. The linuxconf/sendmail help seem a little out of phase with each 
other, and I'm not sure if  linuxconf is writing /etc/sendmail.cf 
correctly. At one point I got a message about version 8 vs version 9 
sendmail.cf. Is there a better/more up to date configuration utility 
available for folk like me who need training wheels?
2) I don't think my named daemon is doing anything. I have a valid hosts 
file, but my windows clients - who are pointed at the linux box - can't 
resolve LAN names that are in the /etc/hosts file. The daemon is running. 
Is there a test method I can use?

Could someone help, please?

Thanks,

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Re: Sendmail with dnsbl option

2002-01-03 Thread Patrick Nelson


On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 10:12, Jon Hoffman wrote:
 Hi,
 I want to configure our mail server to reject spam.  I know I want to edit
 the sendmail.mc file and put in FEATURE(dnsbl) but not really sure what
 needs to be done with the configurationl.  Has anyone set this up before?
 If so what needs to be done to make sure I do not take the mail server down
 for any length of time :O).
 
 Thank you
 
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What black list are you going to use?  Input, Output or Both?  Check the
site for the specific URL for the FEATURE(dnsbl,'URL of BL')dnl
command.

We use the orbz bl and if you use them (or would like to) check them out
at http://orbz.org, the URL for the support of sendmail (and others)
is:  http://orbz.org/sysadmin-lightside.php

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Re: Passwd

2002-01-03 Thread Rob Wolfe


I am a DBA by trade and don't do THAT much sysadmin work (mostly HP/UX 
anyway) but isn't it a questionable security policy for sysadmins to have 
the actual passwords for users?  I would think that it is a little more 
normal to have an admin account that can change the password when it is 
buggered up and then put an immediate expire on the password so that on 
next login it must be changed by the owner of the account.

Rob Wolfe
At 07:37 AM 1/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Hey;
The new email server I have has far more robust logging features (and is 
far more secure). I also noticed you're having a problem logging on with 
accounting@. The passwd I have is:
jmv8965C
Please check that.
Thanks,
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Re: Passwd


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:04:41PM -0400, Rob Wolfe wrote:
 I am a DBA by trade and don't do THAT much sysadmin work (mostly HP/UX 
 anyway) but isn't it a questionable security policy for sysadmins to have 
 the actual passwords for users?  I would think that it is a little more 
 normal to have an admin account that can change the password when it is 
 buggered up and then put an immediate expire on the password so that on 
 next login it must be changed by the owner of the account.

In a word, yes.

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Re: questions about named and sendmail


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JOHello folks, I'm brand new on the list.
JOUsing RH 7.2, KDE - new install.
JO
JO1) I'm having problems configuring sendmail: I successfully added sendmail 
JOinto linuxconf's list of managed services, but linuxconf seems to have 
JOproblems with cursor positioning as I edit the various fields. Secondly, 
JOand more important, I'm a little hazy on a few sendmail configuration 
JOdetails. The linuxconf/sendmail help seem a little out of phase with each 
JOother, and I'm not sure if  linuxconf is writing /etc/sendmail.cf 
JOcorrectly. At one point I got a message about version 8 vs version 9 
JOsendmail.cf. Is there a better/more up to date configuration utility 
JOavailable for folk like me who need training wheels?
JO2) I don't think my named daemon is doing anything. I have a valid hosts 
JOfile, but my windows clients - who are pointed at the linux box - can't 
JOresolve LAN names that are in the /etc/hosts file. The daemon is running. 
JOIs there a test method I can use?

rpm -e linuxconf

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Well, top marks for a cryptic reply.
Removing linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.

Now rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)

Any other ideas?
j.

At 05:14 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:

JOHello folks, I'm brand new on the list.
JOUsing RH 7.2, KDE - new install.
JO
JO1) I'm having problems configuring sendmail: I successfully added sendmail
JOinto linuxconf's list of managed services, but linuxconf seems to have
JOproblems with cursor positioning as I edit the various fields. Secondly,
JOand more important, I'm a little hazy on a few sendmail configuration
JOdetails. The linuxconf/sendmail help seem a little out of phase with each
JOother, and I'm not sure if  linuxconf is writing /etc/sendmail.cf
JOcorrectly. At one point I got a message about version 8 vs version 9
JOsendmail.cf. Is there a better/more up to date configuration utility
JOavailable for folk like me who need training wheels?
JO2) I don't think my named daemon is doing anything. I have a valid hosts
JOfile, but my windows clients - who are pointed at the linux box - can't
JOresolve LAN names that are in the /etc/hosts file. The daemon is running.
JOIs there a test method I can use?

rpm -e linuxconf

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Re: questions about named and sendmail


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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:

JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
JO
JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
JO
JOAny other ideas?

I was serious. Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way 
sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to 
muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.

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Re: questions about named and sendmail


At 05:29 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:

JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
JO
JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
JO
JOAny other ideas?

I was serious.

Yup - I suspected you were - terse answers like that usually result from 
trying not to remember previous painful experiences!

  Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
Forgive my ignorance - what's m4 ?

j.

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Re: questions about named and sendmail

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Grau


I'll second that - don't use linuxconf for sendmail.

Just:
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see http://ordb.org/')dnl
in your .mc file and use m4

Chuck Mead wrote:
 
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 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:
 
 JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
 JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
 JO
 JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
 JO
 JOAny other ideas?
 
 I was serious. Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
 sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
 muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
 
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Re: RedHat 7.2 quota problem

2002-01-03 Thread AABAN34



Edit the file /etc/fstab:

Add userquota after defaults, using lower case.


1.)  /dev/hda7   /home  ext2  defaults, userquota 1 2

Then create two files for the partions

2.) touch   /home/quota.user
3.) touch  /home/quota.group
4.) chmod 600 /home/quota.user
5.) chmod 600 /home/quota.group

You must reboot the system.

6.) edquota  u  sam ( username )

Soft limit = Maximum amount of disk disk usage a quota user can have on
the system.

Hard limit =  A user cannot go beyond. If this limit is reached, the
user will not be able to use any additional space.



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Re: questions about named and sendmail



If you are stuck on using a gui admin tool, use webmin. It is very good
as configuring core services like sendmail, dns, nis, etc..

But as someone already said, the m4 method is very easy. Just place all
your macros in a file, run m4, and presto.

CC


 
 At 05:29 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
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 JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
 JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
 JO
 JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
 JO
 JOAny other ideas?
 
 I was serious.
 
 Yup - I suspected you were - terse answers like that usually result from 
 trying not to remember previous painful experiences!
 
   Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
 sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
 muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
 Forgive my ignorance - what's m4 ?
 
 j.
 
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Re: Passwd



With access to /etc/shadow, getting a user's password is a simple perl one-liner. I
have seen places that create super-user accounts and only high-level people like 
VP's and the CTO/CEO have the actual root user password. They wrote a little utility
similiar to sudo that runs any command as root but any files with only root bits are
denied. Needless to say, the admin turnaround their was an average of 6 months. (I 
lasted a miserably seven, but this was right at the beginning of the market slump)

-CC

 
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  I am a DBA by trade and don't do THAT much sysadmin work (mostly HP/UX 
  anyway) but isn't it a questionable security policy for sysadmins to have 
  the actual passwords for users?  I would think that it is a little more 
  normal to have an admin account that can change the password when it is 
  buggered up and then put an immediate expire on the password so that on 
  next login it must be changed by the owner of the account.
 
 In a word, yes.
 
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Re: questions about named and sendmail


At 04:41 PM 1/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
I'll second that - don't use linuxconf for sendmail.

Just:
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see 
http://ordb.org/')dnl
in your .mc file and use m4

Sorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.

GO easy on me here - I'm a Linux newbie !  (Not a computer newbie or 
progamming newbie, just Linux).

julian.
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Chuck Mead wrote:
 
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  JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
  JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
  JO
  JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
  JO
  JOAny other ideas?
 
  I was serious. Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
  sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
  muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
 
  - --
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RE: questions about named and sendmail

2002-01-03 Thread Robert Finneran


Hey Julian,

Don't expect to use a graphical or menu driven tool to get the job done.
Unfortunatley, there are very few really good graphical tools out there that
work well for linux.
Anyhow, if your going to use linux you should learn how to configure things
at the configuration file level. Even if the graphical tools were good, you
still need to be aware of how things work under the hood. You can find all
kinds of books and info on the web about sendmail, try www.sendmail.org.

But I would recommend that you switch to postfix or qmail. I find postfix as
more reliable and easier to set up and maintain then sendmail. Check out
www.psotfix.org. Richard Blum's books Postfix or Running QMail from SAMS
publishing are a must have if your using either postfix and qmail.

Hope this helps!


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Subject: Re: questions about named and sendmail


At 04:41 PM 1/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
I'll second that - don't use linuxconf for sendmail.

Just:
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see
http://ordb.org/')dnl
in your .mc file and use m4

Sorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.

GO easy on me here - I'm a Linux newbie !  (Not a computer newbie or
progamming newbie, just Linux).

julian.
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  JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
  JO
  JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
  JO
  JOAny other ideas?
 
  I was serious. Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
  sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
  muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
 
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Re: questions about named and sendmail


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Julian Opificius wrote:
 Sorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.

Not a problem.  'm4' is a venerable yet powerful macro preprocessor
that has been in Unix since, well, forever.  It is the basis of the C
and original C++ macro preprocessors, and even after all this time is
a feature-rich tool.

Sendmail has one of the most obtuse configuration syntaxes ever created;
in my mind, only second to Forth as a write-only 'language'.  Dense,
effecting a tremendous number and range of mail-related features in
a compact syntax, but very human-unfriendly.  This caused innumerable
errors and difficulty over time.

m4 has been used to provide a set of macros that allow more
admin-friendly creation of sendmail configuration files from a
much simpler config description file.  This input file, usually
/etc/sendmail.mc (or /etc/mail/sendmail.mc), is run as the input to m4,
producing the full sendmail configuration file, usually /etc/sendmail.cf
(/etc/mail/sendmail.cf).  FEATURE is one of these macros.

This has been beautifully documented in one of the O'Reilly series of
books.  It is VERY much to your advantage to get this book, abandon
managing sendmail via LinuxConf, and simply use the latest version of
sendmail from sendmail.org.

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Looking for alternatives to bind (named)

2002-01-03 Thread Robert Finneran


Hello Listees,

I'll be upgrading my DNS servers soon and I want to know if anyone knows of
any alternates to good old BIND.

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Re: mass file renaming

2002-01-03 Thread Cameron Simpson


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:41:18AM -0500, fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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|  No. It sort of works without the parens. His quoting problems (lack of) will
|  bite him as soon as he hits a less common filename.
| For my enlightenment, please remind me of what quoting problems
| you're referring to? I seem to have missed some parts of this thread.

You went something like this:

mv $file `command to lowercase $file`

This will break with files with spaces in their names.
In the shell you _always_ want to say exactly what you mean, eg:

mv $file `command to lowercase $file`

which will prevent white space interpolation in the command.

The point is that while this might work for you, it's guarrenteed that
the person who takes your code and uses it will have the worst case
dataset to use with your code :-(

That's all.
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This is screwy ..


Hi guys,
I just switched over to RH 7.2, and now I am having a craziness... on
the basic of things... 

I want to network 3 puters... 2 RH and one winders, your basic class C
192.168.0.x type setup..  Now, I am not running a named server, just use
/etc/hosts.. all on a switch. One problem... I cannot ping any of
them...  I never had this problem before... I just installed RH, using
the default medium firewall setup.  What am I missing here...  I had
samba set up, but could not ping, so removed it as a server for the
moment.. 

I have been pulling my hair out, (what little I have left), in trying to
get this basic network setup...  

Any help would be appreciated.. 
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Re: gnome screensaver

2002-01-03 Thread ABrady


On 03 Jan 2002 10:53:07 -0500
Kenneth Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] implied:

 I recently upgraded my RH7.1 system to RH7.2 + updates.
 
 Something is out of wack with the screensaver functionality under
 gnome. Enabling random mode via ../Desktop/Screensaver causes
 random images but *simultaneously*!  So, my load average goes through
 the roof.  Also, at that point the control panel is hosed ... only
 way to get rid of it is logging in to a virtual console as 'root' and
 killing it.
 
 I've tried to solve things by xset s off, checking processes, config
 files, etc., and also searched the WWW, but am out of ideas.
 
 Below I've appended what I feel is relevant output from rpm -qa.
 
 (During a lull while writing this letter the xscreensaver started up
 even though I have No Screensaver set in the gnome panel ... weird!)
 
 Your solution to this problem will be appreciated!

Try turning screensaving off in gnome and run it manually via the
startup scripts (~/.xsession if graphical and ~/.xinitrc if nongraphical
logins). Just be sure to put an ampersand () at the end of the line
calling it.

To set everything up the way you want it, type 'xscreensaver-demo' from
a terminal wondow once it's running.

I've been doing it that way for ages whether I used anything gnome or
not, and I've not had any problems.

I once had problems with some screensavers working at all in gnome. But,
they worked fine if I called it myself.

If you still have problems, something else is terribly wrong, but it
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Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 06:56 pm, Gary wrote:

 I want to network 3 puters... 2 RH and one winders, your basic class C
 192.168.0.x type setup..  Now, I am not running a named server, just
 use /etc/hosts.. all on a switch. One problem... I cannot ping any of
 them...  I never had this problem before... I just installed RH, using
 the default medium firewall setup.  

You can't ping them by hostname or IP address? You've tried from 
different machines as well? For example windows - redhat1, redhat1 - 
redhat2, redhat2 - windows, etc.

I'm not using the default firewall here, perhaps it blocks ping requests?

Just guesses at this point, but have to start somewhere, no? ;)

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Re: OT: really big e-mails


Thanks, all!






Dave Ihnat wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:00:03AM -0800, Hidong Kim wrote:
  But back to the technical problem, how does sending e-mails to multiple
  people eat up more bandwidth than placing the e-mail in a directory
  for download?  Assuming that all of the recipients of the e-mail
  are interested in reading the attachment, it seems to me that both
  scenarios would consume the same bandwidth.  No?  Thanks,
 
 Well, it's very different for several reasons.
 
 First, as has been pointed out, when E-mailed, willy-nilly the mail server
 is going to get hit with moving all the attachments at the same time.
 Even assuming every single intended recipient really not only wants
 to see the attachment, but wants to download their own, personal copy,
 this will still be spread out over time as people get to it.
 
 Secondly, it'll be the file server, not the mail server, carrying the
 load--usually better suited to the task, and less visible.
 
 Third, most people WON'T want their own copy--they'll probably open it
 over the network, meaning that depending on the content, it'll be loaded
 more sporadically, reducing the instantaneous network bandwidth required;
 and there won't be local copies chewing up disk space.  (This last will
 happen more reliably if people are confident that the single network
 copy is safe and accessable; if they think it's going to get deleted in
 a few days, they're more likely to snag a copy.)
 
 Finally, out of any particular group mailing, a fair number of people
 simply won't care, taking them out of the resource-hogging pool.
 
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no printers defined

2002-01-03 Thread mike


Hi

I have just re-nstalled all printing updates for rh7.2
Printconf is marginaaly quicker (still a snail) - however lpd will not
start

It comes up with no printers defined after running printconf-gui

Cant find anywhere spewing out errors just not setting up print queues

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Re: Local network : sharing internet cable connection

2002-01-03 Thread Mike W


The Linksys router does not include a NIC card.  You can get a Linksys 
or D-Link PCI NIC for less than US$15.  I have one of each in my two 
RH7.2 boxes.  The D-Link uses the Tulip driver.  I forget which one the 
Linksys uses.

Mike W

Dominic Mitchell wrote:


Hi, 

OK, I will go with the Linksys router.  I have checked for the
BEFSR41, its cost here in Montreal is around 129$ (Canadian)
which corresponds to roughly 80$ US.  

The description of the unit though does not include an Ethernet
card I will have to purchase one that performs well under both
win98/RH7.2 out of the box.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re: no printers defined


What kind of printer do you have?  There was a thread a little while ago
about a bug in the Epson drivers.  I had problems with my Epson Stylus
Color 800 after upgrading to 7.2.  I installed all of the latest printer
packages from the Red Hat errata, and printing is fine now.  Good luck,



Hidong





mike wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I have just re-nstalled all printing updates for rh7.2
 Printconf is marginaaly quicker (still a snail) - however lpd will not
 start
 
 It comes up with no printers defined after running printconf-gui
 
 Cant find anywhere spewing out errors just not setting up print queues
 
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Re: Sendmail with dnsbl option

2002-01-03 Thread Mike W


Patrick Nelson wrote:

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 10:12, Jon Hoffman wrote:

Snip!


What black list are you going to use?  Input, Output or Both?  Check the
site for the specific URL for the FEATURE(dnsbl,'URL of BL')dnl
command.

We use the orbz bl and if you use them (or would like to) check them out
at http://orbz.org, the URL for the support of sendmail (and others)
is:  http://orbz.org/sysadmin-lightside.php

hth...

This is interesting.  Either orbz.org or someone masquerading as 
orbz.org spent 23 minutes on New Years attempting to get my smtp server 
to relay for them.  They tried over 100 different combinations trying to 
get something relayed.  As far as I can tell from the logs, nothing got 
through.  It appears that orbz.org or someone was trying to send a bunch 
of spam through my server.

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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:35:15PM -0500 or thereabouts, Devon wrote:
 On Thursday 03 January 2002 06:56 pm, Gary wrote:
 
  I want to network 3 puters... 2 RH and one winders, your basic class C
  192.168.0.x type setup..  Now, I am not running a named server, just
  use /etc/hosts.. all on a switch. One problem... I cannot ping any of
  them...  I never had this problem before... I just installed RH, using
  the default medium firewall setup.  
 
 You can't ping them by hostname or IP address? You've tried from 
 different machines as well? For example windows - redhat1, redhat1 - 
 redhat2, redhat2 - windows, etc.

Ping by IP address, i.e. 192.168.0.2  Hostname will not work without
named server..  Your example is correct, not can I ping from RH1 -
windows or RH2..  This is crazy..  also, ifconfig shows eth0 UP.. Just
for the heck of it, I rebooted into my old distro, and all works fine,
Even SAMBA to the windows box works fine, but I can't even get off the
ground floor here, as I can't even ping between the boxes...  I have
been playing around with this almost all day.
 
 I'm not using the default firewall here, perhaps it blocks ping requests?

that's what I am thinking, but do not know how to check or fix..
 
 Just guesses at this point, but have to start somewhere, no? ;)

Most definetly g...  any ideas.. 


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RE: questions about named and sendmail


Sound good. I think I'll take your advice, go the postfix route, and read 
a fine manual.

It would be a lot easier if there was a template or sample sendmail.conf 
with decent descriptions of at least the most important variables. Heck, 
I've done it before, but the memory isn't so good these days ...

I liken Unix/Linux help to American roadsigns - really useful if you 
already know where you're going !

The only reason I like graphical tools is that they usually have context 
sensitive help which describes the functionality of each parameter. It's 
usually sufficient reminder for me.

julian.

At 03:24 PM 1/3/02 -0800, you wrote:
Hey Julian,

Don't expect to use a graphical or menu driven tool to get the job done.
Unfortunately, there are very few really good graphical tools out there that
work well for linux.
Anyhow, if your going to use linux you should learn how to configure things
at the configuration file level. Even if the graphical tools were good, you
still need to be aware of how things work under the hood. You can find all
kinds of books and info on the web about sendmail, try www.sendmail.org.

But I would recommend that you switch to postfix or qmail. I find postfix as
more reliable and easier to set up and maintain then sendmail. Check out
www.psotfix.org. Richard Blum's books Postfix or Running QMail from SAMS
publishing are a must have if your using either postfix and qmail.

Hope this helps!


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: questions about named and sendmail


At 04:41 PM 1/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
 I'll second that - don't use linuxconf for sendmail.
 
 Just:
 FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see
 http://ordb.org/')dnl
 in your .mc file and use m4

Sorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.

GO easy on me here - I'm a Linux newbie !  (Not a computer newbie or
progamming newbie, just Linux).

julian.
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   JOWell, top marks for a cryptic reply.
   JORemoving linuxconf wasn't quite what I had in mind.
   JO
   JONow rpm -e windows seems like a much better idea ;-)
   JO
   JOAny other ideas?
  
   I was serious. Remove linuxconf and work with sendmail using m4 the way
   sendmail's developers intended. It is insanely easy! If you continue to
   muck around with linuxconf you will only prolong your pain.
  
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Re: questions about named and sendmail


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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:

JOAt 04:41 PM 1/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
JOI'll second that - don't use linuxconf for sendmail.
JO
JOJust:
JOFEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see 
JOhttp://ordb.org/')dnl
JOin your .mc file and use m4
JO
JOSorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.
JO
JOGO easy on me here - I'm a Linux newbie !  (Not a computer newbie or 
JOprogamming newbie, just Linux).

A long time ago I wrote some documents for Red Hat on postfix and
sendmail which will probably help you out. They are somewhat dated now
but the principles they contain still apply and they are Red Hat
specific. The sendmail howto document does a fair job of illustrating,
in simple language, how to use m4 to create a working sendmail
configuration file. You can find the doc's here:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/mail_news/mail.html

The sendmail howto is here:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/RH-sendmail-HOWTO/book1.html

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Re: questions about named and sendmail


Thanks for the info Dave.
I've dabbled in Forth myself, a long while ago. Write only is right!

Robert Finneran recommended I go to Postfix, and I think I'll do that.

Cheers!

julian.
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At 05:27 PM 1/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Julian Opificius wrote:
  Sorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.

Not a problem.  'm4' is a venerable yet powerful macro preprocessor
that has been in Unix since, well, forever.  It is the basis of the C
and original C++ macro preprocessors, and even after all this time is
a feature-rich tool.

Sendmail has one of the most obtuse configuration syntaxes ever created;
in my mind, only second to Forth as a write-only 'language'.  Dense,
effecting a tremendous number and range of mail-related features in
a compact syntax, but very human-unfriendly.  This caused innumerable
errors and difficulty over time.

m4 has been used to provide a set of macros that allow more
admin-friendly creation of sendmail configuration files from a
much simpler config description file.  This input file, usually
/etc/sendmail.mc (or /etc/mail/sendmail.mc), is run as the input to m4,
producing the full sendmail configuration file, usually /etc/sendmail.cf
(/etc/mail/sendmail.cf).  FEATURE is one of these macros.

This has been beautifully documented in one of the O'Reilly series of
books.  It is VERY much to your advantage to get this book, abandon
managing sendmail via LinuxConf, and simply use the latest version of
sendmail from sendmail.org.

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Re: mass file renaming

2002-01-03 Thread fred smith


On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:45:44AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:41:18AM -0500, fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 |  No. It sort of works without the parens. His quoting problems (lack of) will
 |  bite him as soon as he hits a less common filename.
 | For my enlightenment, please remind me of what quoting problems
 | you're referring to? I seem to have missed some parts of this thread.
 snip
 In the shell you _always_ want to say exactly what you mean, eg:
 
   mv $file `command to lowercase $file`
 
 which will prevent white space interpolation in the command.
 
 The point is that while this might work for you, it's guarrenteed that
 the person who takes your code and uses it will have the worst case
 dataset to use with your code :-(

Yes, that's true. Assume the worst. Thanks for the reminder.

OTOH, I have this almost religious aversion to idiots who put spaces
in filenames. This includes the persons in the northwestern corner
of the 48-states who make it possible to do that. :^)

Fred

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RE: questions about named and sendmail


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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius posted the following:

JOSound good. I think I'll take your advice, go the postfix route, and read 
JOa fine manual.
JO
JOIt would be a lot easier if there was a template or sample sendmail.conf 
JOwith decent descriptions of at least the most important variables. Heck, 
JOI've done it before, but the memory isn't so good these days ...
JO
JOI liken Unix/Linux help to American roadsigns - really useful if you 
JOalready know where you're going !
JO
JOThe only reason I like graphical tools is that they usually have context 
JOsensitive help which describes the functionality of each parameter. It's 
JOusually sufficient reminder for me.

The postfix howto is here:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html

If you go the postfix route there are a couple of caveats...

1. Don't use the postfix RPM created by Red Hat, it's not the latest and 
you want the latest version. Get it here:

http://www.ea4els.ampr.org/~sjmudd/postfix/en/

2. There may be an issue arise with procmail if you use postfix. The
version of procmail being released with Red Hat doesn't work well with
postfix because Red Hat changed the default permissions on procmail to
make it more secure. What occurs is that if you create a new user you
usually have to create that users mail spool file manually (which is
what I do). You could also change the permissions on procmail (not
recommended) or install an older procmail rpm. If you don't know what 
procmail is then read those howto's I pointed you at..., you'll know 
after you read them.

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Re: questions about named and sendmail


Cheers Chuck - I'll plough through it this evening once I've got the kids 
off to bed!

j.

At 08:36 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
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JO
JOJust:
JOFEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `Open spam relay - see
JOhttp://ordb.org/')dnl
JOin your .mc file and use m4
JO
JOSorry, I don't know what FEATURE is, and I don't know what m4 is.
JO
JOGO easy on me here - I'm a Linux newbie !  (Not a computer newbie or
JOprogamming newbie, just Linux).

A long time ago I wrote some documents for Red Hat on postfix and
sendmail which will probably help you out. They are somewhat dated now
but the principles they contain still apply and they are Red Hat
specific. The sendmail howto document does a fair job of illustrating,
in simple language, how to use m4 to create a working sendmail
configuration file. You can find the doc's here:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/mail_news/mail.html

The sendmail howto is here:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/RH-sendmail-HOWTO/book1.html

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Re: questions about named and sendmail

2002-01-03 Thread ABrady


On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:35:58 -0600
Julian Opificius [EMAIL PROTECTED] implied:

https://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html

Saved my butt a couple of times and made it easy, too.

 Sound good. I think I'll take your advice, go the postfix route, and
 read a fine manual.
 
 It would be a lot easier if there was a template or sample
 sendmail.conf with decent descriptions of at least the most important
 variables. Heck, I've done it before, but the memory isn't so good
 these days ...
 
 I liken Unix/Linux help to American roadsigns - really useful if you 
 already know where you're going !
 
 The only reason I like graphical tools is that they usually have
 context sensitive help which describes the functionality of each
 parameter. It's usually sufficient reminder for me.
 
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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 08:30 pm, Gary wrote:

  I'm not using the default firewall here, perhaps it blocks ping
  requests?

 that's what I am thinking, but do not know how to check or fix..

You can run /usr/sbin/lokkit to re-run the firewall config tool and try 
disabling it.

Better yet, /sbin/service ipchains stop will shut it down and reset all 
rules to accept. Assuming that works, you'll need to tweak the ruleset 
and re-enable it.

Stab in the dark, and it wouldn't affect the windows machine, but what is 
the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all ?

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Re: mass file renaming

2002-01-03 Thread Bret Hughes


fred smith wrote:

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:45:44AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:41:18AM -0500, fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
|  No. It sort of works without the parens. His quoting problems (lack of) will
|  bite him as soon as he hits a less common filename.
| For my enlightenment, please remind me of what quoting problems
| you're referring to? I seem to have missed some parts of this thread.
snip
In the shell you _always_ want to say exactly what you mean, eg:

  mv $file `command to lowercase $file`

which will prevent white space interpolation in the command.

The point is that while this might work for you, it's guarrenteed that
the person who takes your code and uses it will have the worst case
dataset to use with your code :-(


Yes, that's true. Assume the worst. Thanks for the reminder.

OTOH, I have this almost religious aversion to idiots who put spaces
in filenames. This includes the persons in the northwestern corner
of the 48-states who make it possible to do that. :^)

Fred

Those guys in eastern scandinavia let you do it too :)   But then I 
guess that is why we are having the discussion.

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RE: OT: really big e-mails

2002-01-03 Thread Gregory Hosler



On 03-Jan-02 Michael R. Dilworth wrote:
 
   Read up on uuencode...  Binary attachments are encoded.

as I recall (it has been awhile) uuencoding (as well as base64 encoding,
common with mime'd attachments) will add ~ 34% overhead.

which is to say that a 40mb attachment will result a mailfile size of ~55mb.

Other differences between sending as mail and ftping (other than the ones
already mentioned) include:

sending as mail will force all transfers thru /var/spool/mqueue, which
might not be setup to take on such a daunting filesize. Next the file
is copied to the users inbox, so there must be an allocation of space
in that directory/partition as well.

There will be need of space to save the decoded attachment to (plus
the fact that some decoders make use of a temporary file). That is to
say that even if you use the mail reader to decode the attachment
invisibly for you, please realize that the mail reader physically
decoded the file, and saved it on disk in some temporary file, thus
(at the minimum) doubling your disk space requirements.

most e-mail users will save mail (really dumb for attachments that
are files located on the system elsewhere), so you need the storage
space there as well.

When users use ftp, they control the final destination, and there is
no intermediate directory (like /var/spool/mqueue) requirement, and
there is no double (or worse) copying.

ftp, and mail are NOT the same. sending large files by e-mail requires
considerably more resources.

-Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hidong Kim
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: really big e-mails
 
 
 Dave Reed wrote:
 
 
 I've seen it cripple a Solaris mail server when someone (on the IT
 staff no less, but not the person in charge of the Unix machines)
 
 I can sympathize with this situation.  I'm actually the VP of Ops at our
 company.  I've also defaulted to doing the Linux sysadmin (pretty scary
 for us!).  Our real IT crew is so totally Windows that it's not even
 funny.  And the biggest perp on the huge e-mail attachments is our
 President (who uses Outlook).  But back to the technical problem, how
 does sending e-mails to multiple people eat up more bandwidth than
 placing the e-mail in a directory for download?  Assuming that all of
 the recipients of the e-mail are interested in reading the attachment,
 it seems to me that both scenarios would consume the same bandwidth. 
 No?  Thanks,
 
 
 
 Hidong
 
 
 
 
 
 
  sent
 a 50MB or so message to a couple hundred internal email
 addresses. Between people downloading the message and it trying to
 send the message, the machine was crippled for a couple hours.
 
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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:35:31PM -0500 or thereabouts, Devon wrote:
 On Thursday 03 January 2002 08:30 pm, Gary wrote:
 
   I'm not using the default firewall here, perhaps it blocks ping
   requests?
 
  that's what I am thinking, but do not know how to check or fix..
 
 You can run /usr/sbin/lokkit to re-run the firewall config tool and try 
 disabling it.
 
 Better yet, /sbin/service ipchains stop will shut it down and reset all 
 rules to accept. Assuming that works, you'll need to tweak the ruleset 
 and re-enable it.

Okay, stopped great ...  Still no ping..
 
 Stab in the dark, and it wouldn't affect the windows machine, but what is 
 the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all ?

As root, I get permission denied even at 644 permissions.
 

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making linux directories accessible from windows


Hi,

I've just installed Samba 2.2.1a on a Red Hat 7.2 machine.  I've set up
some public shares which are accessible from our Windows machines.  Now
I want to make some directories I already have on the Linux machine
accessible only by me from the Windows machines.  The share name is
emeraldkim.  I have this entry in /etc/samba/smb.conf:

[emeraldkim]
path = /sigourney/kim/emerald
valid users = kim
read only = No
browseable = yes


I want to be able to read and write to /sigourney/kim/emerald and all of
its subdirectories, all of which have permission 755 and ownership
kim:users.  My username and password on the Linux NIS network and our
Windows domain are different.  I can see the emeraldkim share in the
Windows Network Neighborhood.  But when I try to go into it, I get
prompted for a username and password.  None of the combinations I've
tried work.  How can I access this share from the Windows side?  Thanks,



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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 09:58 pm, Gary wrote:

  Stab in the dark, and it wouldn't affect the windows machine, but
  what is the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all ?

 As root, I get permission denied even at 644 permissions.

That can't  be a good sign. 
I can do it as a normal user.

[devon@tuxfan rpmbuild]$  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
0
[devon@tuxfan rpmbuild]$ ls -l /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
- -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan  3 22:05 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all

Back to basics for now.

What's the output of :
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/route -n

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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


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On Thursday 03 January 2002 09:58 pm, Gary wrote:

  Stab in the dark, and it wouldn't affect the windows machine, but
  what is the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all ?

 As root, I get permission denied even at 644 permissions.

It just occured to me, you probably entered only:
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
Try cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
I should have been more clear.

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Re: Network difficulty [ Was: This is screwy ]


On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:13:12PM -0500 or thereabouts, Devon wrote:
 On Thursday 03 January 2002 09:58 pm, Gary wrote:
 
   Stab in the dark, and it wouldn't affect the windows machine, but
   what is the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all ?
 
  As root, I get permission denied even at 644 permissions.
 
 That can't  be a good sign. 
 I can do it as a normal user.
 
 [devon@tuxfan rpmbuild]$  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
 0
 [devon@tuxfan rpmbuild]$ ls -l /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
 -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan  3 22:05 
 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
 
 Back to basics for now.
 
 What's the output of :
 /sbin/ifconfig

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:33:A6:45:F9
  inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:33 errors:4 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:8
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:1386 (1.3 Kb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:721 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:721 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:95644 (93.4 Kb)  TX bytes:95644 (93.4 Kb)

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:208.157.4.32  P-t-P:208.157.4.3
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:514 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:550 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
  RX bytes:111709 (109.0 Kb)  TX bytes:36356 (35.5 Kb)

No problem here... It's UP

 /sbin/route -n

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
208.157.4.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo
0.0.0.0 208.157.4.3 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0

same here... all checks out. (Lines spilled over into next line)

it just occured to me, you probably entered only:
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
Try cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
I should have been more clear.

Ahh, yes, my favorite feline...  Value reads 0 .. don't know if good or
bad.. 

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