Re: CS>dental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
You are just a really nice and helpful person aren't
you Deborah. You must wake up each day feeling so
great for the wonderful human you are.


--- Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> I don't recall that being the question...but I got
> rid of the mercury for starters...deb
> 
> Debbie Mcdonald  wrote:  I
> dont mean adapt, but it developes defenses to keep
> you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut,
> the
> obvious question that you did not answer. 
> 
> --- Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
> > I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
> > gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
> > because they did not know what to do with me..I
> > disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it
> would
> > adapt then there would not be a progression in
> > illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no
> longer
> > have any bowel problems at all debbie
> 
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Re: CS>dental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I dont mean adapt, but it developes defenses to keep
you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut, the
obvious question that you did not answer.   

--- Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
> gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
> because they did not know what to do with me..I
> disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it would
> adapt then there would not be a progression in
> illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no longer
> have any bowel problems at all debbie


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Re: CS>dental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I shudder every time I see the amalgam issue talked
about and people dont bother to join an amalgam
specific list and learn more. I've read alot and still
have my amalgams
  The point is, each person is different. The main
problem does not have to be exposure from removal, it
is that the body has learned to live being exposed to
merc. After removal, there is a time frame after which
the body realizes it is no longer being poisoned and
then the body will start dumping the body stores of
mercury from all over. That is where many people that
think they were better start getting much worse, and
this can take you all the way down with no way back
for some. My case has the added down side that I have
dysbiosis(leaky gut) and that is a definate problem
for dealing with body stores. Just check it out before
you go too far too fast. Hope I said it all correctly.
   


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CS>Oprah's doing the bird flu

2006-01-24 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Well, you can imagine the crap that is being put out
there to panic the masses. At the top he is saying, we
need that Tamiflu. He sat right there and told her we
have the technology to make a vaccine for it NOW. He
also managed to sneak in some hints about how many
birds in asia are "moving around" so the sheeples in
the world will be clamoring for those chips in the
livestock
I have not been reading my emails enough, what have we
decided to have on hand. I was thinking I read that CS
was not enough? or is it. 


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Re: CS>**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-24 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Thanks all for suggestions. I feared something very
toxic she was exposed to. These are my step family and
they don't really count me as a pertinent member of
society so asking more questions is pretty much out of
the question. 

--- "Mark S. Siepak"  wrote:

> The only time I have heard of white diarrhea was
> when my sister lived in
> West Texas and drank some water that was highly
> alkaline, runoff from
> Cinnibar (mercury extracted with cyanide) mines.
> They had to bring water in
> for any consumption, even teeth-brushing!
> 
> Hope the young'un didn't eat/drink something
> nasty
> > 
> > What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
> > parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested
> for
> > Hep, said it was negative.


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RE: CS>**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
what would do it though?

--- David W Kenney  wrote:

> Usually due to a total lack of bile secretion.
> 
> 
> What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
> parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested
> for
> Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with
> his
> liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's
> his son's family. 
> 
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CS>**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for
Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his
liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's
his son's family. 


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CS>***Infectious Disease Labs in New Orleans and surrounding areas

2005-09-11 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
> http://www.thememoryblog.org/archives/000588.html
> 
> Infectious Disease Research in and Around New
> Orleans
> Summary: At the very least, there are two Level-3
> biolabs in New Orleans and a cluster of three in
> nearby Covington. They have been working with
> anthrax, mousepox, HIV, plague, etc. There are
> surely other labs in the city.
> 
> 
> Here's a great tip for all reporters looking for a
> completely new - and extremely important - angle on
> the situation in New Orleans. As far as I can tell,
> no one has yet mentioned the biological research
> labs located in and around NOLA. For example, in
> nearby Covington, Tulane University runs the Tulane
> National Primate Research Center, a cluster of
> Level-3 biological labs containing around 5,000
> monkeys, most of which are housed in outdoor cages.
> According to an article in Tulane University
> Magazine, "The primary areas of focus today at the
> Tulane National Primate Research Center are
> infectious diseases, including biodefense related
> work, gene therapy, reproductive biology and
> neuroscience. The Tulane primate center is playing a
> key role in the federal strategic plan for
> biodefense research." [Google cache | Memory Hole
> mirror.]
> 
> So what happened to these diseased monkeys living
> outside in cages? Granted, Covington didn't get hit
> nearly as hard as NOLA, but it still got hit.
> 
> According to the Sunshine Project, which digs up
> grant proposals and other primary documents from the
> US biowarfare effort, "Tulane scientists are working
> with anthrax, plague, and other biological weapons
> agents." [read more]
> 
> And how much of this kind of research was going on
> within New Orleans itself? Apparently quite a bit.
> 
> -- Louisiana State University's Medical School has a
> Level-3 biolab in the Clinical Sciences Research
> Building located at 533 Bolivar Street. According to
> grant applications, LSU's facility was the site of
> research involving anthrax and
> genetically-engineered mousepox. And that's just
> what we know about.
> 
> -- The State of Louisiana has a Level-3 biolab in
> New Orleans. [see this PDF document] 
> 
> -- It seems highly likely that an institution the
> size of Tulane has biolabs in New Orleans itself,
> not just Covington. 
> 
> -- Then there's the University of New Orleans,
> Loyola University, Xavier University of Lousiana,
> and others. I don't know whether they've been
> engaged in bioresearch or have high-level biolabs,
> but it'd be worth finding out.
> 
> -- And let's not forget the New Orleans Medical
> Complex, which contains over 40 blocks of hospitals
> and biomedical research facilities. According to
> this website, it's been severely flooded.
> 
> So with all the known and probable Level-3 biolabs
> in and around New Orleans, what's happened to the
> infected animals? Are they free and roaming? Are
> they dead, with their diseased bodies floating in
> the flood waters? And what about the cultures and
> vials of the diseases? Are they still secure? Are
> they being stolen? Were they washed away, now
> forming part of the toxic soup that coats the city?
> 
> And take a look at this. The Centers for Disease
> Control and Prevention (CDC) has a "Select Agents
> Program" for any facility that handles highly
> dangerous germs, including Ebola, Marburg, ricin,
> avian flu, and anthrax. At the top of their website
> is the following notice:
> --
> Announcement for Entities Impacted by Hurricane
> Katrina
> 
> Entities that are registered with the Select Agent
> Program who have been impacted by Hurricane Katrina
> may contact the CDC Select Agent Program for
> guidance on actions that should be taken to transfer
> Select Agents to another registered entity or report
> the theft, loss, or release of select agents that
> might have occurred due to storm damage. The CDC
> Select Agent Program will expedite any special
> requests from registered entities as a result of
> Hurricane Katrina. Contact the Program via email at
> lr...@cdc.gov, phone at 404-498-2255, fax at
> 404-498-2265, or call your designated CDC
> representative.
> --
> You can see it here.
> 
> 
> I encourage journalists to pursue these worthwhile
> questions. Edward Hammond of the Sunshine Project
> helped greatly with this post, and if reporters
> would like some more background on this, they should
> contact him here.


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Re: CS> CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON

2005-07-06 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I phoned mine, first off living in Texas you don't
stand a chance:O. His website of course praises CAFTA
to the hilt and when I talked to his office, I asked
her if he might be interested in "what" about CAFTA I
did not like and she said basically "no, he has made
up his mind." I asked her why on his website he is so
dishonest as to not even tell his constituents what is
snuck into CAFTA, why he does not inform them. Got
nothing for that question. 
  You need to phone them people, they are not going to
read all the last minute email or, do both then

--- Nenah Sylver  wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Paula Perry
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: CS>help for a sty and also regarding CODEX
> 
> ...Also want to say that the situation regarding
> CODEX is looking pretty 
> grim. I hope everyone is contacting their
> representative in Congress to 
> protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't
> already. It should be 
> coming out for a vote July 11th in the House.
> ===
> 
> To find out who your Congressmember is and to send a
> message to him/her, go 
> to:
> 
> http://www.house.gov/writerep/
> 


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Re: CS>metal chelation

2005-06-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
There are so many differing opinions:) I was told by
an alt dentist not to use cilantro until the body
burden of merc has been dealt with as it will cross
the blood/brain barrier and can take merc into your
brain. I read that chlorella is not reliable, it would
uptake merc but not necessarily keep ahold of it?? and
you might reabsorb it that way.

--- Betsy Coffey  wrote:

> There has been some wonderful information being
> shared
> about alot of different things. I am a frequent
> visitor on another forum. There is alot of mention
> about metal chelating. It has been discussed on this
> forum, that when using  cilantrol, you should also
> use
> something to carry the metal out of the body after
> it
> is pulled from the tissues. One suggestion is using
> chorella to help the metal pass thru instead of
> being
> re- absorbed by the body. I dont have an opinon
> either
> way becaue I dont know, I am just passing on what I
> have heard.


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Re: CS>mercury chelating

2005-06-13 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
This is the truth. Each so called professional usually
only has one way, their way, they don't want to learn
what is different about you. Yes on DMPS warnings.
Among many other horrors, it can make your SOX
capabilities cease and then you are in a really bad
place. First alt metal detox "pro" I went to wanted to
do a DMPS challenge on me and I STILL HAD MY AMALGAM
FILLINGS IN PLACE. Last one I went to, name prominent
in alt circles, FRIED me with homeopathic merc(without
telling me what it was, I knew better) on purpose. Deb

--- Betsy Coffey  wrote:

> I agree with the opinion about being cautious with
> chelating. It is a valid form of treatment and has
> been beneficial for many people but caution must be
> used. I cannot remember if this has been posted here
> or not but anyone with a sulfur or sulfa allergy
> must
> not use DMPS chelating as a treatment. It can cause
> major problems. Chelating heavy metals is not
> somthing
> to undertake without professional help which I find
> almost impossible nowadays.


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Re: CS>***Study conclusion that Gymnema acts by increasing cell permeabiliy plus increasing insulin secretion

2005-06-13 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Hi Jean,
  Those words are from a study, not mine but I would
not interpret it that way, Deb

--- "oldgl...@bigcountry.net"
 wrote:

> Hi Debbie,
> 
> Are you saying gymnema sylvestre acts in the same
> way as prescription drugs?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jean
> 
> ***
>  
>  
> > And what this says is that gymnema increases the
> > release of insulin from the pancreas, and the
> > mechanism is increasing cell permeability and
> > making it leaky to the insulin comes out more
> readily.
> > This is very different that increasing insulin
> > sensitivity (responsiveness) at the cell level in
> > the peripheral tissues. Releasing more insulin
> > actuallly worsens hyperinsulinemia, which in turn
> > may lower blood sugar but at the expense of
> > insulinemic damage throughout the system.
> > 
> > 
> > --


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CS>**abcess on brain?

2005-06-13 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Someone on another list has a son with this, I
wondered what might cause it? Deb


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CS>***Study conclusion that Gymnema acts by increasing cell permeabiliy plus increasing insulin secretion

2005-06-13 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

snip
>>>
Examination of islet and beta-cell integrity
after exposure to GS4, by trypan blue exclusion,
indicated that concentrations of GS4 that stimulated
insulin secretion also caused increased uptake of dye.
Two gymnemic acid-enriched fractions of GS4, obtained
by size exclusion and silica gel chromatography, also
caused increases in insulin secretion concomitant with
increased trypan blue uptake. These results confirm
the stimulatory effects of G. sylvestre on insulin
release, but indicate that GS4 acts by increasing cell
permeability, rather than by stimulating exocytosis by
regulated pathways.>
> > > 
> > >
And what this says is that gymnema increases the
release of insulin from the pancreas, and the
mechanism is increasing cell permeability and
making
it leaky to the insulin comes out more readily.
This
is very different that increasing insulin
sensitivity (responsiveness) at the cell level in
the peripheral tissues. Releasing more insulin
actuallly worsens hyperinsulinemia, which in turn
may lower blood sugar but at the expense of
insulinemic damage throughout the system.


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Re: CS>CHELATION

2005-06-11 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

ANYONE with merc issues should join a list or two
about this topic as there is NO cut and dried protocol
for dealing with merc and you may be greatly harmed by
some protocols so do the research to try to make good
decisions for yourself. In other words, what works
great for someone else may ruin you. Deb
This link links to a very good list, see sidebar on
left

http://www.cfsn.com/

 


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Re: CS>DIABETES II

2005-06-10 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
For me, a merc toxic with insulin resistance, I would
have huge problems with the ALA, the fish oil(any
brand) and my herb list posted an article that shows
gymnema is actually contraindicated. I think I saved
that article. 
  I've not used bilberry or gymnema, and have not
heard about Banaba. Would like to know more.
  Someone on another list said fish oil affected
dopamine levels adversely in some people, I don't have
any info on that. Deb


--- FRANK CUNS-RIAL  wrote:

> Diabetes type II is a nurtured condition and easily
> reversible.
> 1/Use a glycemic diet
> 2/ Eat small frequent meals
> 3/ Eat good fat or protein with each meal
> 4/ drink half of your weight in ounces of clean
> water
> 5/ Support with
> 1000 mg of Lipoic Acid
> 500 Bilberry extract
> 200-600 micrograms of Chromium Picolinate
> 50-100 mg vanadium Sulfate
> 25 mg Banaba ex (0.1% Corosolic acid)
> 3000 mg fish body oils
> 500 mg Gymmena Sikvestre
> 100 mg Cinnamon ext
> 
> and a good multivitamin/mineral formula
> 
> Try also Citozyme-PAN by Biotics to repair the
> pancreas
> 
> Enzymatic Therapy has a product called Glucose
> Regulation which includes most of the items above.
> Jarrow Labs has also a similar effectie product.
> Neither will give you the entire spectrum so check
> carefully to complete the above schedule.
> 
> Frank Cuns-Rial


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Re: CS>Candida, FMS/CFIDS, Leaky Gut

2005-04-26 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

Do you have mercury amalgam fillings in your teeth? 


CS>

2005-03-29 Thread Debbie Mcdonald


BushGreenwatch  
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March 29, 2005

RELIGIOUS USE OF MERCURY ENDANGERING LATINO AND CARIBBEAN
COMMUNITIES 

While mercury contamination caused by coal-fired power plants
continues to make headlines, government agencies have glossed
over an even more direct form of mercury poisoning. 

Dr. Arnold P. Wendorff, director of the New York-based Mercury
Poisoning Project, has urged both the Environmental Protection
Agency (EPA) and the New York State and City health departments
to address the religious use of mercury in Latino communities in
New York City. 

But despite his 15-year campaign, Dr. Wendorff told
BushGreenwatch that the government agencies have yet to
"substantively address the issue." 

In many Latino and Caribbean communities, mercury has long been
used in religious ceremonies associated with the Voodoo,
Santeria, Espiritismo and Palo traditions of Caribbean origin.
During these ceremonies, mercury, called azogue by
practitioners, is sprinkled around the home, sometimes near a
child's crib, or outside the front door of an apartment. The
idea is to repel evil spirits. 

Some 47,000 capsules of mercury are sold each year in local
stores-- called botanicas -- scattered throughout the Bronx.
Such widespread distribution could contaminate up to 13,000
homes. 

A survey of 203 adult residents of New York City found that 44
percent of Caribbean respondents, and 27 percent of Latin
American respondents reported having used mercury in
magico-religious ceremonies. 

Following a ceremony, mercury vapor can remain in households for
years, with severely harmful health consequences. A mere .7
grams of mercury can emit substantial levels of mercury vapor
for over 15 years-- and these ceremonies often use up to 10
grams of mercury. [1] 

Inhalation of mercury vapor is one of the most direct means of
exposure, as the human body absorbs 80% of mercury inhaled. [2]
Even residents who do not practice these ceremonies may suffer
health consequences; mercury vapor can permeate cracks in floors
and escape into hallways. 

Frustrated over the lack of response from the EPA and the New
York City Health Department, Dr. Wendorff filed a new complaint
with the EPA's Office of the Inspector General on February 7th,
but the Agency has yet to respond. 

The EPA and New York State and City health departments, however,
are not the only branches of government to brush off the issue. 

Wendorff has lobbied several members of Congress. He says they
were initially receptive to his pleas, but became discouraged
upon recognizing the complexity of the problem. 

### 

SOURCES: 
[1] Hidden Danger, NRDC report, Oct. 20, 2004,
http://ga3.org/ct/0pz1nS51rm3d/.
[2] Public Health Crisis in the Low-Income Community, Vital
Signs, Winter 2003, http://ga3.org/ct/p1z1nS51rm3c/.

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Re: CS>***anesthesia induced coma

2005-03-07 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Thank you everyone, his name is Joe, near Greenville SC.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
Concentrated Group Prayer can help.
Give us his first name and town.
I'm sure most of us will concentrate some positive energy towards him.

Chuck

All prayers are answered;
doubt cancels prayer;
worry is prayer for things you don't want.

- Don Hamerling


On 3/7/2005 5:53:38 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
> my dear friend's husband had brain surgery and has not come out of it.
> The hospital tells her he has not come out of the anesthesia- is in a light 
> coma??? Anyone able to help her.
> Thanks so much, Deb



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CS>***anesthesia induced coma

2005-03-07 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

my dear friend's husband had brain surgery and has not come out of it. The 
hospital tells her he has not come out of the anesthesia- is in a light coma??? 
Anyone able to help her.  Thanks so much, Deb 


Re: CS>Mercury toxicity...

2005-01-27 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Many merc toxic have bad experiences from homeopathic merc. I am one. 
Join the metals list at
http://www.cfsn.com/

Nina Whit  wrote:
A homeopathic preparation can remove mercury also.



Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.

2005-01-24 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Also, if you do a search on words something likehypoglycemia toxic colon
 you'll come up with some neat stuff. japanese studies link this with 
diabetes.

"Jonathan B. Britten"  wrote:AP reported 
yesterday that doctors in Brazil (?) successfully implanted 
stem cells from a person with diabetes into the same person's pancreas, 
enabling that organ to produce insulin and curing the patient's 
diabetes. No embryonic issues involved in this new method. . .
> Dan Nave wrote:
>
> Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
>
> Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it
> was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic
> neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was
> 200mg three times a day.
>
> Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a
> holistic approach!



Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.

2005-01-24 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I'm mercury toxic and ALA makes me insane, it is horrific. I cannot tolerate 
very small doses so anyone might want to start low.

Dan Nave  wrote:Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, 
thyroid problems, etc.

Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it
was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic
neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was
200mg three times a day.

Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a
holistic approach!

Dan




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CS>***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?

2005-01-20 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
Hi Marshall,
  Glad to hear it is good stuff, I have a long piece:). I did not think you 
ignored me, I frequently do not get answers to messages so assume they just fly 
away.  I forgot to mention it has a tarnished look now, kind of coppery hue, 
what do we do with that?? It's still in the bag in came in

Marshall Dudley  wrote:
Hauser and Miller are very reputable.  I feel sure that if you got .999 or 
better you should be ok. 

CS>***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?

2005-01-20 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I had written Marshall last week and one of my questions was about the silver I 
bought in 1998 from an outifit then recommended on this list that I no longer 
see recommended here so I wondered if it was found that their silver was not 
really ok?? It was from Hauser and Miller. I am mercury toxic so this is really 
important to me, any other metals than silver. I did not get an answer from him 
so maybe those filters. I am on bushgreenwatch so I bet I am on some spy 
lists:)  
 


CS>***Rheumatoid arthritis or Lupus/MSM?

2004-12-08 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I wanted to run something by you and runs with this thread. My husband has 
heart disease, had stents, saw an alt doc, takes supps, didn't do what he was 
told all the way. Plavix is one of his drugs, Coreg too. He developed worsening 
arthritis symptoms in all major joints, especially one knee, one knuckle, 
wrists. Lump developed on his shoulder a couple inches up from his joint, went 
partially back down. Getting MRI. His uric acid was high, has that history. 
Eats too much sugar mostly, some alchohol. I told him:). Reg heart doc put him 
on allopurinol. I told him why not try MSM. Put in email to alt doc but 
he(husband) took it (MSM) only a few days while waiting for answer. We noticed 
his blood was thicker as he cut himself and it did not flow a gusher like 
usual. What?? He said he quit MSM as he has some chest pain. What do you all 
think of MSM and thickening of the blood?? or ? He had been on allopurinol for 
about 3 weeks at least. They did say it took about  a month to work. He was
 only taking 1000 mg MSM twice a day.

twllLL  wrote:Do a search on ( Serrapeptase )
Its suppose to be good for inflamation,clot disolver,cleans out your 
arteries & more.
www.serrapeptase.info
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Harris" 
To: 
Cc: "Richard Harris" 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Rheumatoid arthritis or Lupus


> Hi again Sol,
> Regarding your taking MSM for the RA, a friend informed me that the dose 
> is
> very important; At least 12 1,000mg MSM Tabs + 6 1,000mg Vit C--He 
> reported
> that he had recieved recognizable relief with this dose after only a week.
> Of course, you could use the powders and stir in juice of choice--only 
> make
> sure you're at this large minimum dose in order for effective relief.
>
> Sincerely,
> ___
> Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
> 448 West Juniata Street
> Clermont, FL 34711
> www.rharrisinc.com
> www.myseahealth.com/reh
> http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Rheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
>
>
> I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found
> a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not
> one word about curing RA with colloidal silver.
> Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus?
>
> TIA,
> sol
>
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CS>***Shingles ?

2004-09-18 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

I am so sorry for not paying attention. Can you all share with me your thoughts 
on Shingles, my friend appears to have this. Thought she has a lung infection 
on one side and she showed me blisters, on her ribs front and back on one side, 
friend told her it was poison ivy. I don't think so. Thanks much and email me 
privately if you think the list is tired of hearing the same things. Debbie  


Re: CS>Lyme Disease cure?

2004-06-28 Thread Debbie Mcdonald

My alt doc said this cures lyme. Says tincture is best. Says to start very 
slow, not as the label says, one drop even in glass of water and work up. 
Search on Samento. I read a caution on cat's claw itself if you are diabetic on 
insulin. ?? Deb


CS>**Tribute to Dameon

2000-12-20 Thread Debbie McDonald
To everyone here who remembers Dameon, it is the anniversary of
the day we lost him, two years ago. I just wanted to think of him
once again during this special time of year. Deb


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CS>OT, help little girl

2000-11-06 Thread Debbie McDonald


Debbie McDonald wrote:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/compu dr/aime/aime.htm

should be 
http://www.geocities.com/compu_add and underline ther
http://www.geocities.com/compu_dr/aime/aime.htm


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CS>OT, help little girl

2000-11-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
http://www.geocities.com/compu dr/aime/aime.htm


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CS>*****OT, need your help

2000-08-07 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hello All,
  Some of you know me and many do not. I am sorry to take up space
but many here are very well read in alternative therapies and I
need help for my friend's daughter. She was diagnosed with crohn's
a few years ago. I had thought they were doing well, we lost touch
when they moved away. I talked with her yesterday and the docs
have basically sent her daughter home to die(22 years old), but
not until they had removed 2/3 of her colon and ileum:(. She told
me she has crohn's from her esophagus down and has growths too.
She has a duodenal bypass. She has also just been diagnosed with a
tumor on her pituitary. They never tested her via GreaterSmokies
etc for pathogens but she has had many rounds of antibiotics of
course. She is no longer able to eat, she gets parenteral
nutrition, exact components I can get? She is on pain management.
I told them about Beck devices and I know about Rife but do not
have a R/B currently. Any ideas on this will be most appreciated. 
Debbie


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CS>***CS>Candida

2000-07-04 Thread Debbie McDonald


Black wrote:
> 
> My husband has candida and has been advised by doctor to avoid all wheat
> containing foods.  When he does this he is greatly relieved of extremely
> painful GERDS, which has cost him 3-4 years of not being able to sleep in
> prone position..
> I cannot get him to even try CS for the candida problem, tho I feel sure I
> have read that it  has cured candida.  He maintains that since CS kills
> bacteria how will it know not to kill friendly bacteria, which is the origin
> of candida in the first place.  He has said that if he could see a book or
> some documentation  explaining that CS works for candida and why, he would
> gladly consider taking it.
> If any of you folks have any info on this matter I would be grateful to hear
> it, even testimonials that pinpoint candida  to CS use.  I hate to see him
> go the rest of his life having to eliminate wheat from diet, and it sure
> makes it a problem working around this in his meal preparations.
> Thanks for anything help ,
> Nancy

I am precisely in the position that your husband fears. Greater
Smokies tests showed ZERO beneficial bacteria and pathogenic
amounts of two very bad guys. I did not however have this test
PRIOR to use of CS so I am not drawing any conclusions, other than
caution. I used CS extensively and in largeish amounts for some
long time. I am definately not cured of Candida. I do think it
cleans it out of your blood nicely and probably the muscles?? Have
you studied the mercury/heavy metal connection in some? I have not
followed this list heavily lately.


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CS>***OTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme

2000-06-19 Thread Debbie McDonald
Marsha, did you keep Candace's protocol that you might share with
Christy. I have it but not right where I can find it. Deb


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CS>**cilantro

2000-04-03 Thread Debbie McDonald
Re this topic, one should not chelate with Cilantro if one still
has the mercury amalgam fillings in place in the mouth and one
should be very careful about chelating period, much can be learned
by subbing to one of the metals lists to learn more about the
dangers. I have been gone so forgive me if this has already been
covered. Deb


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Re: CS>***?silver wire pure or not??

1999-12-29 Thread Debbie McDonald
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> Sounds more to me that
> 1 Your run time is a little too long
> or
> 2 Your water has some impurity
> You're not (gasp) washing your container, are you?
> Chuck
:), but non!!


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CS>***?silver wire pure or not??

1999-12-29 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi All,
  As long as I have been hanging around here, you would think I would
know all the answers to making my own but I have used store bought
till recently. My silver either looks blackish while being made or
looks golden and then turns blackish some timer later, within a few
days/week. While making ,it looks like the cloud coming off the wire
is black. I remember seeing reference to possibly getting sterling
wire and this making the wrong color. How can I be sure my wire is the
right wire? Can I take it to a local jeweler and can they tell me? 
Thanks so much, Deb


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Re: CS>carpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread Debbie McDonald
I have these type symptoms and have read that this can be caused by
candida in the muscles. It seems to fit my case, I got worse when I
started taking anti candida meds, not sticking to the diet religiously
and not rotating the meds(over the counter health food store, not
prescription). If I eat sugar, it most definately gets worse. This
would explain the large numbers of people that have the surgery and
get no relief!!!:), just like lower back pain can be leaky gut.Deb


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Re: CS>*** CS>Gout/alkalife?

1999-12-27 Thread Debbie McDonald
Ivan Anderson wrote:
> 
> Deb,
> 
> I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife
> other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a
> surplus of hydroxyl ions.
> 
> Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium
> (daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg).
> 
> The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity.
> 
> Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet?

No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had
never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). I am a freak. I have
trouble treating my problems as I react to some things. Example, amino
acids taken as supplements tend to give me a reaction like a very
nasty adrenaline surge, that goes one for too long  Deb


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CS>*** CS>Gout/alkalife?

1999-12-26 Thread Debbie McDonald
Ivan Anderson wrote:

> Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium it
> contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink
> alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops, such
> as Alkalife  www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted mixture
> potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio, the
> extra water will also help. 

When I tried these drops they made my heart RACE. It was scarey, since
I am deficient in minerals and especially mag/pot, what do you think
is going on??  Deb


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CS>***?Parkinson's

1999-12-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
Can anyone share any ideas for treating Parkinson's? Thanks much, Deb


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CS>***electroporation/amalgams

1999-11-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
Do any of you using this technology still have your amalgam fillings?
I have been afraid of putting more mercury into my brain etc ???  Deb


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Re: CS>Re:electroporation.

1999-11-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
deat...@aol.com wrote:
I did take my medications and herbs as usual BUT I kept a
> cordless phone in my lap so I could call 911 in case electroporation. set in
> since I live alone 

So how would you know electroporation is setting in??  Deb


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CS>***Help Guillain-Barre'

1999-10-28 Thread Debbie McDonald
All,
  Given the overwhelming response to my chicken question, here is
another more serious one for you:). Cyber friend diagnosed with the
above syndrome. Can ANYONE give me any help on this so I can pass it
on to them. Many thanks in advance.  Deb


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CS>**CS and baby chicks??

1999-10-26 Thread Debbie McDonald
CS friends,
  Can one give CS to baby chicks, would it help with coccidiosis? I am
new to being a chick mom and just wondered. They are about 10 days old 
Thanks much, Debbie 
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CS>OT:CAE in goats and HIV/AIDS

1999-10-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
> AIDSWEEKLY Plus, Monday, 2 June 1997 issue; Published by Charles Henderson,
> Publisher. Editorial & Publishing Office: P.O. Box 5528, Atlanta, GA
> 30307-0528 / Telephone: (800) 633-4931; Subscription Office: P.O.Box 830409,
> Birmingham, AL 35283-0409 / FAX: (205) 995-1588
> by Daniel J. DeNoon, Senior Editor
> 
> Humans infected with a harmless goat virus develop antibodies that
> neutralize HIV
> 
> The remarkable finding offers hope for a safe, attenuated AIDS vaccine using
> the goat virus or a genetically engineered variant carrying HIV genes. It is
> strikingly reminiscent of the earliest vaccine: Edward Jenner's discovery
> that a relatively harmless cow virus (cowpox or vaccinia) could protect
> humans against smallpox.
> 
> The goat virus is caprine arthritis-encephalitis virus (CAEV).
> 
> "A major obstacle to designing live attenuated vaccines using primate
> lentiviruses is the substantial health threat to humans," noted Angeline
> Douvas of the University of Southern California, Los Angeles.
> "Human-infecting CAEV-like lentiviruses with low pathogenicity may have
> prophylactic applications against HIV-1 as vaccines, as chimeras with HIV-1
> (CHIVs), or as competitors for binding to target-cell receptors."
> 
> Douvas reported the findings in a report to the 9th Annual Meeting of the
> National Coperative Vaccine Development Groups for AIDS (NCVDG), held May
> 4-7, 1997, in Bethesda, Maryland.
> 
> CAEV is a monocyte/macrophage-tropic virus with worldwide distribution. At
> least 65 prcent of goats carry the virus; some 85 percent of goat herds are
> infected.  About 40 percent of infected animals develop symptoms of
> arthritis, mastitis (breast inflammation), and/or encephalitis. Human
> infection, which is non-pathogenic, occurs mainly through ingestion of raw
> goat milk.
> 
> CAEV variants capable of infecting humans were first detected in people with
> mixed connective tissue disease (MCTD), an immune deficiency with clinical
> features similar to those of systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE). But CAEV is
> not etiologically linked to MCTD, and human-infecting variants (h- CAEV)
> have been isolated from healthy people, predominantly of Mexican descent.
> 
> h-CAEV is endemic in Mexico; 24 to 39 percent of children with Mexican
> parents are seropositive for CAEV.  DNA analysis shows that h-CAEV is
> similar to goat CAEV and is not a distinct lentivirus. h-CAEV can be passed
> in culture to human peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) via plasma
> from infected individuals.
> 
> Douvas and colleagues became interested in the potential of CAEV as an AIDS
> vaccine when they learned that some Hispanic MCTD patients tested positive
> for anti-HIV antibodies even though they were not infected with the AIDS
> virus.  They found that h-CAEV antibodies from some subjects reacted to both
> the CAEV gp135 surface glycoprotein and the HIV-1 gp120 envelope
> glycoprotein. Moreover, these anti-CAEV antibodies were capable of
> "substantially neutralizing HIV-1."
> 
> Douvas's group analyzed antibody reactivity from four groups of human
> subjects:
> 
> * Hispanic MCTD patients (n=33). Antibodies from 91 percent recognized CAEV
> gp135, 61 percent recognized HIV gp120, and 65 percent had dual reactivity.
> 
> * Normal Hispanic volunteers (n=16). Antibodies from 63 percent recognized
> CAEV gp135, 25 percent recognized H gp120, and 40 percent had dual
> reactivity.
> 
> * People with occupational exposure to CAEV (n=2). Antibodies from both
> subjects recognized CAEV gp135; one had antibodies that recognized HIV gp120
> and one had antibodies with dual reactivity.
> 
> * HIV-1 positive individuals (n=10). Antibodies from 10 percent recognized
> CAEV gp135, 100 percent recognized HIV gp120, and 10 percent had dual
> reactivity.
> 
> Douvas and colleagues hypothesized that h-CAEV variants that elicit both
> gp135 and gp120 antibodies (++ variants) arose from a combination of
> variants that recognized only CAEV gp135 (+- variants) or only HIV gp120 (-+
> variants). The further suggested that the ++ variants have structures
> resembling gp120.
> 
> Analysis of CAEV strains from goats and sheep shows that they carry motifs
> that have been associated with macrophage-tropic strains of HIV-1. These
> strains currently are thought to be responsible for the vast majority of HIV
> infections.
> 
> Douvas suggested that CAEV variants potentially could be used as a live
> attenuated vaccine for AIDS. The immunity elicited by such vaccines could be
> increased by creating chimeric CAEV/HIV variants (CHIV). In addition to
> eliciting antibody responses that could protect against HIV, CAEV might
> block the cellular receptors HIV needs to establish infection.
> 
> Of great interest to vaccine studies is the finding that macaque monkeys can
> be infected with h-CAEV, paving the way for studies in a relevant animal
> model.
> 
> 
> More recent information from England- protection whi

CS>** Signs That You've Had Too Much of the 90s

1999-09-17 Thread Debbie McDonald
> Fw: Signs That You've Had Too Much of the 90s
> 
> 1.) You tried to enter your password on the microwave.
> 
> 2.) You now think of three espressos as "getting wasted."
> 
> 3.) You haven't played solitaire with a real deck of cards in years.
> 
> 4.) You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of 3.
> 
> 5.) You e-mail your son in his room to tell him that dinner is ready,
> and he e-mails you back "What's for dinner?"
> 
> 6.) Your daughter sells Girl Scout Cookies via her web site.
> 
> 7.) You chat several times a day with a stranger from South Africa, but
> you haven't spoken to your next  door neighbor yet this year.
> 
> 8.) You didn't give your valentine a card this year, but you posted one
> for your e-mail buddies via a web page.
> 
> 9.) Your daughter just bought a C.D. of all the records your college
> roommate used to play.
> 
> 10.) You check the ingredients on a can of chicken noodle soup to see if
> 
> it contains echinacea.
> 
> 11.) You check your blow dryer to see if it's Y2K compliant.
> 
> 12.)  Your grandmother clogs up your e-mail Inbox, asking you to send
> her JPEG file of your newborn  so she can create a screen saver.
> 
> 13.)  You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see if
> 
> anyone is home.


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CS>OT,How old are you?

1999-08-31 Thread Debbie McDonald
http://www.inconnect.com/~genoone/psych/htm
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CS>**? Sucralose

1999-07-11 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi all,
  Does anyone have any info on sucralose? After aspartame, I am
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CS>radioactive metal in household products

1999-07-11 Thread Debbie McDonald
> RE: LOOPHOLE: Radioactive Metal in Household Products
> 
> 
> >From the Common Dreams News Center . . .
> http://www.commondreams.org/
> 
> > JULY 7, 1999  3:57 PM
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> > CONTACT: Public Citizen
> >
> > Legal Loophole Opens Floodgates:
> > Radioactive Metal Can Be Used in
> > Household Products
> >
> > WASHINGTON - July 7 - A recent decision in a federal lawsuit
> > will result in the continued recycling of thousands of tons of
> > radioactive metal for use in household products because of a
> > loophole in the Superfund cleanup law.
> >
> > Plaintiffs in the lawsuit sought to force the U.S. Department of
> > Energy (DOE) to conduct an environmental impact study of a
> > $250 million DOE contract awarded in 1997 to British Nuclear
> > Fuels Ltd. (BNFL) to "recycle" radioactive metals from uranium
> > enrichment plants in Tennessee. Such a study would have
> > delayed and possibly prevented the reuse of the radioactive
> > metal.
> >
> > "The BNFL contract is precedent-setting and is resulting in an
> > experimental recycling process that will allow an estimated
> > 100,000 tons of radioactive metals to be sold as scrap metal for
> > use in items ranging from frying pans to baby carriages," said
> > Wenonah Hauter, director of Public Citizen's Critical Mass
> > Energy Project.
> >
> > In a June 29 decision, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler of
> > Washington, D.C. used strong language about the danger this
> > recycling poses to the public but said she could not order the
> > DOE to write an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS)
> > because, under a provision of the Superfund law, citizens are
> > barred from bringing suit until the cleanup is completed.
> >
> > The judge described as "startling and worrisome" the absence
> > of opportunity for "public scrutiny or input on a matter of such
> > grave importance." She went on to say that "the lack of public
> > scrutiny is only compounded by the fact that the recycling
> > process BNFL intends to use is entirely experimental at this
> > stage."
> >
> > The judge said that "the potential for environmental harm is
> > great, especially given the unprecedented amount of hazardous
> > materials which the Defendants seek to recycle."
> >
> > The nuclear industry, in cooperation with the federal
> > government, has been attempting to "deregulate" radioactive
> > metals from weapon facilities and decommissioned nuclear
> > power plants since the 1970s. Public Citizen and other citizensÂ’
> > organizations have successfully organized to prevent this
> > recycling prior to the recent BNFL contract.
> >
> > The lawsuit was brought by the Paper, Allied-Industrial,
> > Chemical and Energy Workers Union (PACE), the Nuclear
> > Information and Resource Service (NIRS) and other groups.
> >
> > "Public Citizen, NIRS and other organizations are engaged in a
> > campaign to educate consumers about the threat to their
> > familiesÂ’ health by the recycling of unknown quantities of
> > radioactive metal and other materials with unknown levels of
> > radiation into products that reach their homes," Hauter said.
> >
> >  ###
> >   © Copyrighted 1997-1999. All rights Reserved. Common Dreams
> 
> ** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this
> material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed
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Re: CS helps my dog

1999-07-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
Might want to make dietary changes. MSM works much better on arthritis
if given with yucca. You can buy this in pelleted form(or powdered)
cheaply by getting it from a Horse vet supply place such as United Vet
Equine.  Deb

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> Dear Silver Hounds,
> 
> I just started my dog on a combo of silver, MSM, Pascalite clay,
> glucosamine, chondrotin (sp?) and Vit C. I am mixing it up and shotting it
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CS>***Eye Solution Treatment for dogs

1999-06-06 Thread Debbie McDonald
My dog is recently diagnosed with glaucoma. Not one to take a
conventional diagnosis, and having read in some of my alternative
books that glaucoma can be from infection, would you have an idea what
drops are used for this? I read this recently on a list but cannot
remember which list. I am desparate to find a solution. The vet kept
remarking how her symptoms did not fit glaucoma BUT. Thanks Deb   
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Re: CS>B's and calcium...

1999-05-24 Thread Debbie McDonald
Reid Smith wrote:

>If you were diagnosed with Lyme you need to check your potassium
> and iron levels..
Reid,
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Re: CS>Season's greetings...

1998-12-24 Thread Debbie McDonald
And to our beloved friend Dameon, all our prayers. It is such a
sadness to learn of his passing but now he is where he belongs.
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CS>***Help Hep C

1998-12-15 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi all,
  does anyone have any recommendations or have your read anything on
what will help Hepatitis C??? My friend is very ill with this. Many
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CS>OT: Cremate Monsanto

1998-12-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
   >Nanjundaswamy] threatened. "The government can foist 100
> cases of attempt
>   >to murder [against us], but we will throw it [Monsanto]
> out... first from
>   >Karnataka, next from Maharashtra" ... The former professor
> of law wondered
>   >how the State's Agriculture Minister could be unaware of
> the trials. "The
>   >Government cannot continue for three minutes" considering
> its irresponsible
>   >behaviour, he said'. (The Indian Express, Bangalore
> edition, page 4, 20th
>   >November)
>   >'Monsanto will have to leave the country within a week.
> Otherwise we will
>   >be forced to throw them out. We have given a day's
> ultimatum to the company
>   >to furnish details about the seed trials undertaken in the
> state and the
>   >country.' (Prof. Nanjundasway in The Times of India,
> Bangalore edition,
>   >page 5 20th November).
>   >
>   >Although the field trials are testing BT cotton, the Indian
> press and
>   >politiciancs seem to be rather confused and are mixing up
> this issue with
>   >the terminator technology, which has been used by opponents
> of Monsanto as
>   >an example of the destructive potential of this
> corporation. However, this
>   >confusion is making it easier for Monsanto to reject any
> accusation by
>   >denying the use of this technology. Here are some
> statements about this
>   >issue taken from the last days press.
>   >
>   >'Second and Third World markets are the main targets for
> the terminator
>   >seed.'
>   >William Phelps, Spokesman, Department of Agriculture, USA
> (quoted in The
>   >Indian Express, Bangalore edition, cover page, 18 November)
>   >
>   >'It is not merly the economic factors that threaten the
> poor farmers of the
>   >world, but it is nature of the Terminator gene itself,
> since the pollen
>   >from the crops carrying the Terminator will infect the
> fields of farmers
>   >who either reject, or cannot afford the technology.'
>   >(UAS, quoted in The Indian Express, Bangalore edition,
> cover page, 18
>   >November)
>   >
>   >'This is a terminator of biodiversity, terminator of food
> security. It is
>   >a damaging technology because pollination pollution can
> render all
>   >indigenous varieties sterile. This gene will slowly remove
> all
>   >characteristics of germination from seeds. This means the
> harvest seeds
>   >cannot be used for sowing during the next seseason. It will
> also force seed
>   >dependency on farmers who cannot afford to buy seeds.
>   >Monoculture was introduced in the country in 1965 with an
> aim to provide
>   >food security. When Green Revolution Technology introduced
> monoculture it
>   >was thought the method would be very effective.
> Terminatorgene is being
>   >dubbed as a second Green Revolution Technology. This, too,
> will prove
>   >ineffective.
>   >Genetically modified seeds are polluting the local species.
> It will not
>   >solve the food problem, in fact it will terminate food
> security along with
>   >biodiversity.'
>   >(Prof. Nanjundaswamy, quoted in The Times of India,
> Bangalore edition, page
>   >5, 20th November)
>   >
>   >The sincerity of Monsanto can be easily assessed by the
> usual roguish reply
>   >it gave to the critics: 'Monsanto will only bring to India,
> products and
>   >technologies which are consistent with what India wants and
> its laws
>   >aprove Monsanto has not, and will not, bring to India
> any technology
>   >that will adversely affect the environment, current
> agricuture practices
>   >and force farmers to use any technology it provides.'
> (Monsanto statement
>   >quoted in Deccan Herald, Bangalore edition, page 9, 21th
> November)
>   >
>   >Yesterday the Union Minister for Rural Development,
> Babagouda Patil,
>   >declared that 'Monsanto wil be asked to leave India'
> (headline, The Times
>   >of India, Bangalore edition, page 5, 23 November).
>   >
>   >'He said that he recieved Information that Monsanto is
> developing and
>   >conducting field trials on the "terminator gene" seeds at a
> private farm in
>   >Ranebennur taluk of Haveri district. "I have informed the
> Prime Minister
>   >and Union Agriculture Minister", he said. He said he knew
> the complications
>   >arising out of the issue due to WTO stipulations. "But the
> government will
>   >not compromise on this issue as crores of farmers' lives
> will be in danger.
>   >The terminator gene seed will pose a serious threat to
> Indian agriculture."
>   >The Union cabinet is expected to deliberate on the issue
> besides initiating
>   >measures to close Monsanto's buisness operations in the
> country... He said
>   >that the Center would not hesitate to withdraw from WTO if
> its provisions
>   >threaten our very existence.' (The Times of India,
> Bangalore edition, page
>   >5 23rd November)

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CS>Health Alert: Hereditary Hemochromatosis: NOT rare! READ please!

1998-11-29 Thread Debbie McDonald
> http://www.ironoverload.org

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Re: CS>Just me...

1998-11-16 Thread Debbie McDonald
HI Mike,
  Isn't it time for us to chip in some moo-lah for this list's operational
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Re: CS and zapping

1998-11-13 Thread Debbie McDonald
It's Not Me wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> That is what I thought at first too, but I'm not so sure now.  We have been
> treating our dogs with some high power stuff every week for 3 weeks and they
> just keep itching and so do I. 
H Vern,
   Do you have anything like nettles in your area. I know those in my area are
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Re: CS and zapping

1998-11-12 Thread Debbie McDonald
Both these conditions are symtoms of Candidiasis. There is much evidence in my
recent readings that this is involved in prostate conditions in men. I have
some urls. Others have posted canadida urls also. Most doctors do not believe
in it so find one that does. Email for my list of urls if you would like.
Debbie

> It's Not Me wrote:
> 
> Bruce or anyone else who knows,
> I recall seeing a post recently that stated that you should not take CS while
> zapping with a Clark type zapper.  Could you explain this to me.  I have been
> using the zapper for some type of skin parasite that the docs cannot find and
> at the same time need to be taking CS for chronic Prostatitis.  What are the
> dangers?  Also, has anyone had any experience dealing with itchy little skin
> critters.  I'm sure I caught them from my dogs who got them from killing a
> squirrel and a cat.  The vet can't find anything on scrapings, and the dog
> dips don't seem to be helping.  My dermatologist is calling my itching
> nonspecific dermatitis, but I don't think so.  I see that Bruce lists a
> frequency that kills mites, could someone point me to info on building one of
> these generators.  Any help would be appreciated.
> Vern
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CS>OT Good articles, all of them

1998-11-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
http://garcia.efn.org/~raypeat/nutri.html

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CS>Re: Monsanto and genocide

1998-10-24 Thread Debbie McDonald
> >>Check http://www.rafi.org/usda.html to stop Montsanto's genetically
> >>altered  seeds with "terminator " genes.

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Re: CS and enzymes

1998-10-19 Thread Debbie McDonald
What is someone's credentials or source? I am always interested..Debbie

Vilik Rapheles wrote:
> 
> Hi out there --
>   \
> 
>Question: Someon just told me CS may adversely affect pancreatic enzymes.
> Opinions?

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Re: CS & antibiotics & ??????

1998-10-08 Thread Debbie McDonald
With out it I become a shuffling, shaking,
> hurting, sleeping reck that can't even remember what I done 10 minutes
> before.
> 
>   I don't have the answer for the reason that CS caused the combination
> of antibotics that I take to quit working but it did.
Floxin has been singled out on one of the major news shows for the neurological
damage that can and does occur. I expect you feel untired because of some of
this effect. I took one and it was "wired to the ceiling" time. Be careful of
all the fluoroquinilones. What if the CS made you tired from die off of candida
or???, have you been tested for yeast? Sorry, just trying to help. I read
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Re: CS>Lupus

1998-10-07 Thread Debbie McDonald
Jim wrote:
> 
> Anyone know anything about lupus and is CS helpful?
I bought this new book, Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide-The Burton
Goldberg group. So far it is very intriguing. I bought it at Barnes and Nobles,
check there, if you need , I can skim all the headings under lupus (there are
verry many) and try to summarize for you. Debbie
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Re: cs physician on vancouver island that might know a thing about m.s.

1998-10-06 Thread Debbie McDonald
Peter,
  I cannot help you with a doc but see if any info on this web site rings true
for you, take the test. Deb
http://howdyneighbor.com/jbayliss/

Peter Koziol wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a m.d. on this island who is knowledgable
> about m.s. and might be able to help me in my down hill spiral.
> Peter K
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CS>Re: CODEX ALIMENTARIOUS -- how many of you know?

1998-10-04 Thread Debbie McDonald
HPB and the CHFA denying that the Codex proposals will have no
> impact on the availability of nutritional supplements in Canada? Either
> spokespersons for these two groups are ignorant about the proposals or
> they are lying to the public in order to protect drug company profits.
> After all, several voting members of the CHFA are owned by or are
> subsidiaries of major drug manufacturers or pharmaceutical chains.
> Neither group can be trusted to give the public straight answers about the
> Codex scam. They are in a clear conflict of interest since they stand to
> gain financially when the supplement prices are boosted out the roof.
> Further evidence of Canadian involvement is the HPB (Hocus Pocus
> Bunch) position on what is or is not a food or a drug. This bunch is either
> cleverly devious about their support of pharmaceutical concerns or just
> plain dumb. For example, garlic, ginger, licorice and peppermint are
> considered to be foods when sold as spices. If a grocery store manager
> makes claims for their therapeutic effects, they then become drugs via a
> hocus pocus mechanism which remains to be defined. As it now stands in
> Canada (and this changes on a regular basis given the current mood,
> blood sugar level or whims of officials at the HPB) the following list of
> currently available health food store nutritional supplements are
> considered nebulously to be either a drug a drug even in the absence of
> claims or a new drug with claims:
> 
> Aloe vera AstragalusBilberry Capsicum
> Cascara sagrada   Cat's claw ChamomileDong Quai
> Echinacea augustifoliaEchinacea purpureaEphedra (Ma huang)
> Feverfew Garlic   GingerGinkgo biloba Ginseng
> Golden Seal   Gotu Kola HawthorneKava Kava
> Licorice Milk ThistlePau D'arco (Taheebo)Peppermint
> Psyllium  Sarsaparilla  Saw palmetto
> Yohimbe
> 
>  This list is likely to expand over the next two years. If the Codex
> and the HPB have their way, your favorite supplements will be replaced
> by expensive, patented, over-the-counter or prescription drugs. Just look
> what has already happened to amino acids like tryptophan. Once available
> for under $20 for a bottle of 100 tablets of 500 mgs. at your local health
> food store, the same tablet is now only available by prescription at a cost
> of over $120 at your pharmacy. On top of that, in order to get a
> prescription for tryptophan, you will have to convince your doctor to give
> you one. This is easier said than done simply because most medical
> doctors have no clue what tryptophan does or believe it to be toxic.
> Project this shallow thinking on to the herbs listed above and it becomes
> quite clear that public access to natural remedies will be a thing of the
> past."
> 
>  For more information, documentation and a plan of action to fight
> the Codex proposals, contact: John Hammell, Legislative Advocate, The
> Life Extension Foundation 2411 Monroe St. #2 Hollywood, FL 33020
> USA
> Tel: 800-333-2553, 954-929-2905Fax: 954-929-0507
> 
> Internet web site: http://www/lef.org/lef/index.html
> 
> Look up your congressman by zip code:
> <http://www.house.gov/writerep/>
> 
> Look up your 9 digit (5 +4) zip code to find your congressman
> http://www.usps.gov/ncsc/lookups/lookup_zip+4.html

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CS>alternative

1998-10-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
Citizens for health
http://www.ahpa.org/sendmail.asp
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Re: CS>A Call To Action by Dannion Brinkley

1998-10-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
Paul Bembower wrote:
> 
> I don't know this gentlemen, and I certainly don't want to be negative
> about someone who speaks with such fervor
> However, I smell a rat.  When the government wants to get involved in
> Alternative Medicine, I suspect that someone with a vested interest to
> protect is seeking some form of control over another interest that
> threatens it.
>
My thoughts precisely. They have tried at least twice so far to pass things
with shadily worded bills that are meant to take this freedom away from us. I
am not buying this one. I think I have an url for this, I will check. Deb 
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Re:OT:? urls

1998-09-03 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi all,
  Just read Mike's advice about reactions. I think I had posted url about 5HTP.
I had a bad reaction to this after about five days of no bad reaction so watch
out. Read it is being taken off the market by FDA but no one had proof that
stated such?? 
  Anyway, I had posted some good medical urls and someone deleted all my
bookmarks and I lost them. That is what I get for not backing up for a
month,,can anyone send me any of them??? or the one that sold amino acids
in bulk?? or any grand urls, health related you may have. Many thanks Deb 
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Re: CS for candida?

1998-09-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
Nancy B. wrote:

> I used to think CS could cause candida as it took a while for all the
> symptoms to end (because I wasn't taking enough CS for candida).  I now
> believe it arrested my case of systemic candida.  My candida symptoms have
> been gone for months and months, thanks to CS.
Nancy,
  How much did you end up taking, how long, for this end to candida??Deb

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Re: Thyroid

1998-08-03 Thread Debbie McDonald
How much iodine do you paint??

Daniel Holly wrote:
> 
> For low Iodine or to help thyroid,paint the Iodine
> on your underarm where it is not hairy.
> Regular drugstore Iodine.
> I do it.

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Re: CS response - thyroid

1998-08-03 Thread Debbie McDonald
Bill Kingsbury wrote:
> Years ago I read that the thyroid can become colonized by
> certain types of fungus -- something doctors never test for.
> A Medline search should turn up some references:
Thanks Bill, this sounds like a possibility. I tried to call WaterOz, does
anyone have the phone number?? The one on the web page does not work for me.
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Re: CS response

1998-08-02 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi All,
  Have any of you had any sensation/dull ache (for lack of better word) in your
thyroid region upon taking your CS? This happens to me every morning a short
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Re: MCT Fund Update 7/31 AM

1998-07-31 Thread Debbie McDonald
Robert L. Wells wrote:

> Although it appears that there is evidence that some silver
> products either kill bacteria or limit its growth, I want to
> know how a home-made brew stacks up.  I agree that we need
> to define the manufacturing process and quality standards of
> what we test.
At the start of this, my main thoughts were with the particulate size and
effectiveness, is the size a factor in how well it works. Are we back to having
no real way to discern this measuring process now? or is there still some way
this will be able to be tested. Someone with lots of time would be needed for
the subsequent tests on down from that level.We "know" it works, but the
retailers of CS are telling multiple versions of why THEIR'S works best. We
need to be able to tell ourselves and newcomers needing help the answer to
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Silver and immunity

1998-07-30 Thread Debbie McDonald
All,
  I was reading the "silver" topic on a pet related list today and someone that
uses it said that she used it on her young daughter for chicken pox and the pox
were gone in 48 hours BUT, she said this left the child with no immunity to the
pox and she acquired them again three months later. Anyone have any opinions on
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Re: CS five gallon plans???

1998-07-28 Thread Debbie McDonald
M. G. Devour wrote:
> It seems that Cisco's plans would work for anyone who was willing to
> be careful and was fully concious of the risks involved. But the
> design is rough, without safeguards.
> 
> How would we fix the problems? I suppose just use 4 identical
> batteries for 36 volts, or 2 for 24. Use a ballast lamp just like on
> the small setups, but you'd have to experiment to find out just what
> sort of current flow would be required. Probably end up with an
> array of 12 volt bulbs with current ratings in the several hundred
> milliamps to low amps range.
> 
> Remember too that we're probably talking about a system to be used
> for livestock and/or foliar application to crops. That may mean that
> Cisco wasn't even planning to use distilled water. It wouldn't be
> particularly important what kind of bucket was used either, as long
> as it wasn't metal.
> 
> If we wanted to do the experiments, I bet we'd be able to make it
> work. Sounds like Deb would rather *NOT* have to do all that,
> however, and I don't blame her. 
Ok, I am thinking:) Deb

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Re: CS five gallon plans???

1998-07-26 Thread Debbie McDonald
Brooks Bradley wrote:
> 
>   Debbie,  Are these your complete set of plans?  If so, you might be
> well-served to consider the following:  (1)  If these are high capacity
> batteries (100-600 amp), then, without any current-limiting  feature.it
> is a potentially very dangerous scheme.

Brooks and all,
  This is all the plans I was sent, I wondered about current limiting. I think
I will just shelve this plan and buy one of the marketed ones. Can't find a
glass five gallon container with the right dimensions anyway. Am I gullible or
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Re: CS five gallon plans???

1998-07-26 Thread Debbie McDonald
These are marine batteries used below. Is this a viable plan for good CS? Deb

> 
> Debbie,
> 
> Well lets try it this way:
> 
> Place the three batteries in a row. Connect positive to negative poles,
> this creates a 'series' connection causing the battery voltage to
> increase. 2-12 volt batteries = 24 voltsadd one more 6 volt battery
> and you have 30vdc. So + to - with one of each left over to connect to
> the electrodes.
> 
> A  B
> +_- +__- - +___- -- A and B to electrodes.
> | | |  |   |   |
> | | |  |   |   |
> |_| |__|   |___|
> 
> The electrode will be a 6 foot length of Silver wire 999 Fine in a cork
> screw fashion. thus it will fit into the container. Utiliize a clean 5
> gallon bucket it will facilate easier access for you.
> 
> Cut a 3/8 plexaglass cover and drill holes in it to keep the electrodes
> from touching.ues a LUG for #2 wire to attach the wire to the
> electrode. allow the electrodes to get no closer than 1 inch or they
> will short. If you cut a large hole in the Pglass you can then utilize a
> laser pointer to inspect the process. As the PPM increases it causes the
> lasers beam to show the silver in the waterit looks smokey in the
> beam. But do not look at the top of the water or the bottom follow the
> beam through the water and you will see when the PPM increases. It will
> take some testing on your part to get this right but it will never take
> less then 25 minutes nor more than 0ne hour.

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Re:CS/plans

1998-07-26 Thread Debbie McDonald
Ok, I am going to post the plans and get the list's opinion and go from there.
Deb

Reid Smith wrote:
>Why not make or buy 100PPM and dilute with distilled water?
> Take Care

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Re: CS and immune system (was GSE)

1998-07-25 Thread Debbie McDonald
Marsha Hallett wrote:

>  I also feel that CS can stop my depressive moods. Figure that one out!
> Marsha
Me too. In the short time I have been back on CS, I have not had one boo hooing
episode and the pain in my neck and the horrible grinding is mostly gone. My
neck would feel like the spinal cord was swelling in it every day, more as the
day wore on.  I guess there is bad bacteria making those symptoms?? Deb  

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Re: [Fwd: Question] From Stan on Cisco

1998-07-25 Thread Debbie McDonald
All,
  In light of all this bad news, have any of you viewed the plans that Cisco
had for the CS generator he was said to have used over there. The one that made
five gallons at a time. I have these plans and was going to use  them to make
the silver for the horses. I don't know now if they are even viable plans for
making correct silver. It appealed to me to not have to use electricity like
some of the expensive machines that make more silver faster??? Maybe it was
divine intervention that my husband is so slow to do this for me.:)  Any help
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Url, you can relate it if you try

1998-07-24 Thread Debbie McDonald
Another FM CFIDS url. Lots of article links at bottom, some of which I relate
to possible use of CS. Has leaky gut/candida info. I believe I have this which
some symptoms I have are being helped with CS. Of course, some cross reference
to lyme.  Deb, bummed over the Cisco thing. 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/6028/leakygut.htm
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OT:book Pain Diaries, preview

1998-07-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
Sorry off topic, might help someone. Posted yesterday so view today Deb
> 7/22/98 Dr. Hans Hansen has drafted a new chapter
> of his book, PAIN DIARIES, explaining Fibromyalgia pain and why you hurt.
> Please view the chapter "Fibromyalgia - Why You Hurt" at
> http://www.fibromyalgia.com under the "Book" section  This
> will be on the web page for only 2 days
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Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract

1998-07-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
Dean Woodward wrote:

> Brooks: I followed up on your information, bought the book and read it. I
> agree that it is shocking indeed!
> 
> Is your group open to others? If so, I would be interested in discussing it.
Myself included, I am a victim of nutrasweet toxicity, big time. Deb
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Re: Just thoughts

1998-07-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
Reid,
  I worry about you taking so many antibiotics. Do you not get herx reactions
with your CS and so you don't think it is doing any good or are you just so
determined to kill this damn bug? I know that the drugs do a number on your
immune system each time you use them and that is why I worry about you more.
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Re: One woman's experience with CS

1998-07-23 Thread Debbie McDonald
Well Whitney,
  I am glad to read your post as I did not know this feeling of impending death
was also an herx. I thought I just felt bad during a herx but the recent heart
involvement scared me mega tons as with my weird dehyrdration, I thought my
heart was surely on it's way out. Too humiliated to go to the emergency room
again after two trips when nutrasweet was dealing me the bad hands. Thanks for
sharing. Arginine in the daytime huh? I use the ornithine at night as it works
for sleep. Anyone try the molybdenum?? 
  Rest of you, I tried the 5-htp and with my brain chemistry , it did a big
number on me it would appear, took several days to react. To be sure, I will
try it again when I am improved in health. Deb
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OT/urls

1998-07-21 Thread Debbie McDonald
Mega site
http://www.castle.net/~mystic/pages/links1.html
listed on the above is
Holistic Healing Web Page
www.holisticmed.com/
list of practitioners
www.holisticmed.com/www/directory.html   includes vets
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OT/Scopes

1998-07-20 Thread Debbie McDonald
Hi All,
  I have and Illuminator model 1036A scope from American Optical, says Spenser
on it under the AO. Can anyone tell me how good this scope is, what I might be
able to do with it to help our research. My vet is trying to buy it from me but
he won't tell me what it's worth. We looked at horse worm eggs the other day
and he found one that had two tails where there should be one. I knew you
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Re: Brain fog anecdotes

1998-07-15 Thread Debbie McDonald
It's not me wrote:
> 
> Debbie,
> 
> Did you have any problems with the parasite program?  I got to about day 12
> and felt really strange and stopped. 
No, I did not have any problems after the fear on the first day. I did the
whole thing and then the maintenance but not for long as I was to have surgery
and did not know if my right upper quadrant pain was my liver or my gall
bladder so I stopped it to be sure and have not started up again. Deb   
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Re: Brain fog anecdotes

1998-07-13 Thread Debbie McDonald
Clark says, comfortingly, that if you dont' sleep
> through the night, "you may have the worst night of your life"  well, I have
> not slept through a night in the last decade.  And no amount of ornithine is
> going to fool my body into thinking eight hours equals four.  
I used Clarkes parasite program and the ornithine worked for me like a charm
and I have had insomnia as a symptom for over a decade also. (those wonderful
docs gave me halcyon, thank heaven I had the sense not to try that) If I woke
up, I took another one and fell back to sleep in a much shorter time. So many
factors to this scenario but do you use any nutrasweet, that is what started my
horror story? The year it came out is the year of my decline. Anyone know any
bad things about ornithine supplementation?  
  I said last week that I connected worsened brain fog/die off(herx). One thing
that connects with what Reid said as to thick blood, last summer I had memory
problems so bad and equilibrium problems and symptoms of stroke and I take meds
for blood pressure that is an adrenal inhibitor as this is only what works for
me so far and now I have such horrific dehydration and I read on the web that
LOW BLOOD pressure causes dehydration. I can sit here and guzzle water all day
and not restore my hydration. Anyone have any theories on that one?  Sorry off
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Re: Microbial Challenge Test Fund

1998-07-10 Thread Debbie McDonald
Marsha Hallett wrote:

> Love to all of you,
> Marsha
> PS, Oceanside is SOOO nice, stays about 70. Eat your hearts out... :o)
>

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Re: caster oil

1998-07-09 Thread Debbie McDonald
Found this on the newsgroups Can anyone dispute it with facts or should we
do more digging?  Deb 
> >
> > castor oil contains ricin, one of the most potent poisons known.  A single
> > molecule will kill a cell (by chewing up ribosomes if memory serves).  The 
> > oil
> > is used as a cathartic.  Not sure whether this is a true "stimulant 
> > cathartic"
> > a class of drugs that too many women only learn to avoid after they have to
> > consult a doctor because their colon doesn't work anymore.
> >
> > Avoid castor oil, if someone tells you it is healthful, see if they are also
> > taking DDT pills and ask for a reputable reference.
> >
> > Robert Read, DVM, PhD
> 
> Looked up ricin.  Toxic indeed!! LD50 .001 ug/gram!  But why do women
> seem to fall victim to this?  They just happen to use it more?  And is
> there really damage to the colon, given the 3-day turnaround time for
> the lining?

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Re: Provocative thoughts

1998-07-06 Thread Debbie McDonald
Reid Smith wrote:
 Dr. Rife found that the viruses that cause cancer come from
> the E-coli bacteria.  There are two and he called them the BX and BY
> virus. He found that when the E-coli bacteria was in the right medium
> it produced these viruses. When in one medium it produced the BX and when
> in another it produced the BY. These are the two that causes the two
> different types of cancer.
So, does he have frequencies that kill this? Forgive me, I am still very
ignorant about rife. Can you test for it? the BX and BY.  Deb 
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Re: Provocative thoughts

1998-07-06 Thread Debbie McDonald
Charles L. Church wrote:
> 
> Hi Debbie,
> 
> GSE, Grapefruit seed extract, also called "standardized extract of
> grapefruit", is a powerful antimicrobial agent that is effective against
> yeast and protazoans. However MANY people who take it get severe brain
> fog such as myself.
Oh, I have not listened to the excitotoxin url yet. I will tomorrow, my
computer is not set up to hear it:(. I have aspartame poisoning, I guess you
could say it ruined most of my adult life and continues , I guess. I will like
to hear this. Do you think that die off too can cause brain fog? You know some
say that coke(and others?) is putting aspartame in some products and not
labeling it as such, too small an amount or calling it flavoring I think is the
way they are getting around it. They said when Coke was called and asked point
blank, they would not answer the question.  Since I have regressed so much in
the last two months, I will see if CS will help me.  Deb 
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Re: Provocative thoughts

1998-07-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
>
> >Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is
> >true just a mere thought
> >
> >Could G.S.E.  actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the brain
> >fog?
  I missed something here, please fill me in on the thread that says that GSE
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Re: Sources for powdered amino acids(bulk)

1998-07-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
http://www.jomarlabs.com/prices.htm

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Re:psoriasis

1998-07-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
Once again, delete if not interested. I did not note who was using remedies so
sending to list.

> > Has anyone used yellowdock tea for psoriasis..thanks.
> >
> No, but I am taking herb capsules which contain yellow dock.  Just
> started taking them a week ago and am noticing positive reduction of my
> red patches.  I am also applying aloe vera gel topically twice a day
> which dramatically reduces itching and promotes healing.
>
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Re:another site

1998-07-05 Thread Debbie McDonald
In case this helps any of us, (delete if not interested). I only read part of
the book excerpt on 5-htp and it was very interesting. It included sections on
CFS, Depression, etc . Take a look.  

> http://www.iherb.com

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Re:CS/GSE/dosage

1998-07-01 Thread Debbie McDonald
How much GSE do you use to treat candida, and how often? Has anyone here heard
of the "spit in the glass" candida test and what did/do you think of it? Deb
Arnie Farber wrote:
> 
> When the CS kills the candida yeast systematically in the body,it is
> asorbed so quickly into the bloodstream that it could bypass the yeast
> in the colon,stomach,and intestines.GsE gravitate to these areas of the
> body and destroy the remainder of the candida yeast in the the body.It
> is very important to use a combination of CS and GsE.If you don't get it
> all it will come back.

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