Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis

2011-12-11 Thread Sunny
Lena, have you tried resveratrol for Lymes.  If you can find the invasive, 
Japanese Knotweed, dig up the roots.. it contains more resveratrol than any 
plant.  I read about it in the Invasive Plant Medicine book.  Dry the roots and 
scrape them into a spoon of honey or something like that, or put them in 
vegecaps and swallow.

Here's a youtube video about it featuring herbalist Timothy Scott who had Lyme 
disease.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3N0biKrjQ 

Also check out Steven Buhner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asw0_DaA85Yfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL0449CB6E7E7D9E4A



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 From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
 

I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form 
regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of 
nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very 
important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but 
many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA)

Be well,
Léna

On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote:
My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the 
symptoms went away.  When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she 
would know because it would flare up.  For her nightshades and dairy were the 
worst.
PT
 
From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis
 
I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if 
anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you?  
Thanks,  Kathy
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Re: CScs and lyme

2011-09-06 Thread Sunny
Find Japanese Knotweed, an invasive plant, and dig up the root, then dry it and 
tincture it in white grain or heavy duty proof alcohol.. Check out the book 
Invasive Plant Medicine.  Also MMS can be quite effective I hear...

I like to use a mixture of all sorts of alternatives...

wish you well with the Lyme
 
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From: Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: utahpug...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: CScs and lyme


 
same book, there is a section on Effectiveness  give the info on the book 
again??
 
 
there are many testimonials of lymies using CS where can I read them??
Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  r
 samuelson 2...@cox.net


 
From:David AuBuchon
[mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011
6:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs and lyme
 
Hi Rod,

The link I sent earlier is more than enough to establish the safety of
colloidal silver.  Hundreds of thousands of Americans - if not millions -
have used it...not 1 single valid report of injury.  And lots of other
data in their showing it is safe.

In that same book, there is a section on Effectiveness...It
is all theremore than ample evidence to prove the general effectiveness of
CS against all sorts of effectiveness.  Lets start with literally
thousands of testimonials on the web for example.

Regarding specifically lyme, there are many testimonials of lymies using CS, as
well as many LLMDs who use CS in their practice.  It is pretty clear cut.

If you have much herx, please reduce the dose to a level where you only have a
BARELY noticeable herx.  Strong herx can be COUNTER productive.

~David


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
 
 
 
I am
currently taking 3 cups per day of 9 PPM and much herx. 
I can find no doctor who agrees with taking CS except from Italy .  My
Lyme doctor who said I have Lyme wants me to get her data as she has had it and
both sons have it and her husband has it.  
 
 
Do we have a
good test for Lyme and I do want doctors to help with the data?  I am at a loss 
with no real info on
CS…
 
Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  r samuels...@cox.net

Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...

2010-12-25 Thread Sunny
Thank you all folks, for the invaluable advice, the caring and knowledge 
sharing.  And thanks, Mike, for your allowing on this list of all that has 
potential to save lives and restore health. May all our lives be blessed with 
good health and kind friends.

with love
sunny x
 
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Re: CSHelp with tooth extraction pain

2010-09-26 Thread Sunny
Thanks - not sure that's what it is.. now.. feels more like ulcerated palate 
around the tooth... sucking on cloves helps but not for long and eating 
anything 
other than ultra bland is like 'ouch sting sting'...

xx sunny
 
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From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 8:36:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSHelp with tooth extraction pain

 
Hi Sunny,
As far as I know a dry socket is when the blood clot in the  socket is 
dislodged.  I found some information on the web at 
http://www.medicinenet.com/dry_socket/article.htm 
 
I hope this is helpful.
Good luck.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Sunny 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:07AM
Subject: CSHelp with tooth extractionpain


Hi all,   I know no one can give medical advice, I fully take
responsibility 
for choosing to follow any 'ideas' anyone may share... as mychoice!


I've just had a tooth extracted, upper molar, which required injectionsof 
numbing stuff into the upper palate, lots of drilling to cut up the tooth
and 
subsequent hacking out in 3 sections..and stitches.  It is stillpainful 
after a week and sore..and some nylon loop has now appeared danglingfrom 
the 
area... husband tried to cut it so it would not catch... but it ishard to 
do 
with scissors.   The dentist didn't say anything about solublestitches or 
to 
come back and have them outI don't want to revisit him toget 
'medication' that he suggested he would give me if it still hurt after a
week.. but I may call re the nylon-style unbreakable stitch thread...


My lower jaw was swollen as well...and has now gone down but is
bruised..must 
have been dentist manhandling my mouth during theextraction.


My gum at the edge of tooth next to the extraction and along the edge of
the 
extraction also feels


 ulcerated...like a mouth ulcer.


I'm scared I'm getting dry socket.  Here's what I've been doing.. tonot 
much 
avail and wondered if anyone has any other answers.   I alsohave an 
electrical facial massager and the raw material to build azapper.


I spray a mix of CS and oil of oregano on it frequently to disinfect,help 
kill pathogens? And I'm drinking small cuplets of CS here and there, like
one 
yesterday, one the day before..


I mix 8 drops of MMS and gargle in the spot.. boy it stings.. butthinking 
it 
will also help kill any infection.  I've done this 3 timesonly, a couple 
of 
days ago and this morning.


Wondering if I need to give these remedies especially for helping the
ulceration pain more time ... it's really hard to eat.. and I'm scared of food 
   
touching the spot and causing more infection...more time and if  anyonehas 
any other ideas... and if putting a zapper on the site might help.


Sometimes I wish I'd had all my teeth out to avoid future problems. With
virtually no income, I've used credit to do this... makes me feel resentful of 
   
traditional medicine... the dentist was young, jumpy, jokey and later I
realized didn't tell me about the procedure much. I originally went in cos a   
 
crown was wobbling off and he said he'd put on a stainless steel one, but when 
   
he removed the existing crown the tooth stump was too decayed to proceed.  
 Big lesson for me to ask ask and ask.. 


any help will be appreciated and accepted as my choice to follow ornot..
I make my own colloidal using a silvergen...it comes out at 9ppm..mostly


painfully.. sunny x
 
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Re: CSMy first post

2010-08-25 Thread Sunny
Wow David, Welcome.  I'm not very active on here, but I can tell you that it IS 
a goldmine and not only that it is a gold, silver, MMS and virtually any 
alternative therapy that people care to share.. so you are at home here.

I am sorry for your challenges and admire your resolve to find a way to combat 
it... Bravo... I am with you in spirit.. and hoping you find some more help 
here 
and more inspiration...

To reply you do just hit reply... although if you are replying to the digest, 
you might want to change the subject line to feature the post you are 
specifically replying to...

much love and wishes for your increasing good health
sunny
 
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From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:02:23 PM
Subject: CSMy first post

Hi All,

I'm new to this list.  I've been following every CS group on yahoo, but they 
all 
seem pretty dead!  This one looks like the goldmine I've been looking for!

I'm here to learn about all sorts of innumerable details of CS.  I am not in 
the biz, but have not ruled out the possibility that some day I might be.  
Hence I want to learn, learn, learn.  


I have Lyme, bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, candida, and I don't know what 
else.  A regular swamp.  I believe Lyme is minimal now and candida is 
essentially a non issue now.  Bartonella I think is the main enemy by far right 
now.  I have been sick since age 16, and just kind of lived with it until age 
22.  I couldn't live with it anymore.  It was do or die.  In what I now think 
was truly a race for my life, I finally got diagnosed with Lyme at age 23.  
Somehow I finished grad school.  I am now 25, and too sick to work.  I have a 
B.S. and M.S. in industrial engineering from a top university.  


I've done all sorts of crazy therapies.  The ones that have helped the most for 
my particular case:

1.  Coconut oil absolutely ransacked candida where as nystatin and diflucan had 
no apparent effect at all.

2.  Doug coil rife machine herxed and improved on Lyme frequencies and 
eventually stopped being effective.  Presumably because the other infections 
are 
the bad guys left.

3.  Homemade ionic silver.  Sometimes as much as 32 oz a day.  Somewhat 
regularly for a few months.  Then it stopped being effective orally.  If I 
don't 
take it for 4 or 5 days, I feel some bugs edging up.  I take CS, then it 
knocks that feeling out for 4 or 5 days.  I think I might slowly head backwards 
if I did not keep doing this with the CS.

In general, I tend not to respond to treatments.  I am the guy who wishes he 
could get something to make him herx, but just can't.

The latest development in my treatment:

IV silver nitrate

I have had two treatments so far.  First one have me a herx that was almost 
literally identical to flu.  Fever, chills, weakness, etc.  I have never in my 
life had a herx that felt like the immune system was actually doing its job!  
The second treatment was lower dose cuz I was scared after the first treatment. 
 
No flu symptoms but more usual herx symptoms (fatigue, depression, brain 
fog).  Round three is this friday!

~David

p.s.  to reply to messages, do I just click reply to it when I get messages 
in 
my gmail inbox?  I subscribed to the digest.



  

Re: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list.  Project Greenlife are 
recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice.   It is on their website

http://www.projectgreenlife.com 

They no longer sell MMS according to their site.

I have used and still do use MMS.  This article offers another side of the MMS 
argument.   I don't want it to be dangerous.. and I must check out all material 
I can... as we all should.

http://www.sott.net/signs/list_by_category/7-Health-Wellness?page=5


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213275-MMS-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-or-Trojan-Horse-Your-Body-and-DNA-Decide
 


Humble responded to this article..

and this is an article on the church that Jim Humble belongs to.. of which he 
is 
an ordained Bishop...

http://www.originalchurch.org/apostolic-succession/apostolic-succession.htm

I am confused... and also concerned...

At least the only thing they've pulled against CS is the agryia [not spelt 
right?] and that's only after excess..and all the naysayers haven't much to say 
other than it doesn't work... 

grr


 
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:31:42 AM
Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today

If the FDA is requiring a recall, then it must work too well.

Marshall

Pam Wanveer wrote:
 Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/or have 
any
 insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
 Thanks, Pam
 
 
 
 URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice
 
 Dear Customer,
 
 You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have 
purchased a product called MMS from our company at some time in the past.
 
 Following discussion with FDA officials, Project GreenLife is effecting an 
immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite solution product labeled 
MMS 
Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops.
 
 Questions and answers on voluntary recall of Project GreenLife's sodium 
chlorite product:
 
 Q. What products are affected by this recall?
 
 A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral 
Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops distributed by PGL 
International, 
LLC.  This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic bottle..  This recall is for 
all lot numbers.
 
 Q. Why was this product recalled?
 
 A. PGL International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because of 
 safety 
concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in regards to 
chlorine 
dioxide.  As a precautionary measure, the company is recalling all sodium 
chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.
 
 Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?
 
 A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this product to 
 in 
the past by sending them a copy of this recall communication..
 
 Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?
 
 A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product.  Further 
distribution or use of any remaining product should cease immediately..  If 
you 
have any unused product, you may seal the container and return it to the 
address 
provided below.  Shipping account information will be provided upon request.  
PGL will work with all customers to make them whole.
 
 If you have any questions or comments, please email
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CSFDA and MMS

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
The FDA have a notice on their site about MMS.  It is not very informative, 
just 
stating that they have received reports about nausea and vomiting and low blood 
pressure from dehydration.   This is the result of several 'reports' received 
by 
the FDA,.


http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm220747.htm
 
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Re: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
Renee, thank you for this.. I just kept saying, this person makes total sense.. 
I really like your seeing both sides, for that is my way... Thank you.

smiles
sunny

 
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From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 7:51:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today

 
There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble.  There 
is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting and 
diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from chlorine 
poisoning rather than overload of die-off.  He advocates (and uses) a 5% 
strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS.  

 
There are those that have followed Jim's protocol and claim they've gotten 
their 
normal lives back after years of illness, and those that say he saved my life 
and so they are vehement against the chemist's gentler, safer protocol.  Though 
he doesn't belong to the list, Jim came on to debate Tom and wound up looking 
bad (as in he could only defend himself by repeating 'I've given this to 
thousands of people and therefor it is safe').
 
Then there are those like me who go--if I had something really serious I was 
trying to kill I'd use Jim's (new) protocol--which, by the way, he changed from 
his original protocol because he finally had to admit, without actually 
admitting, that he did not understand the chemistry of sodium chlorite, nor 
what 
it does in the body, nor how long it is actually IN the body--of a few drops 
every few hours.  BUT--for anything less serious I would certainly use the much 
safer 5% method the chemist recommends.  As he says--it does the same thing as 
Jim's method, it just takes longer.  

 
There are situations where you don't mind it taking longer and then there are 
situations where you want it to be gone NOW.  So I feel there is room for both. 
 
Jim, on the other hand, really hates anyone who tries to say his protocols 
aren't THE end to all illnesses.
 
I've been using MMS since the web first heard about it, as MMS.  Sodium 
chlorite, of course, has been used for decades before Jim brought it to public 
attention, with his own 'discovered' method.  

 
So you pretty much have to read both sides and choose for yourself.  Sodium 
chlorite as MMS has always been a product of extremes.  It does one thing for 
this person and the exact opposite for the next person, in every body response 
reported from MMS users.  I've been on 2 MMS lists (one now defunct) for at 
least 3 years now and have 'seen it all'.   MMS is an amazing thing, but it is 
MEDICINE, and should be handled with safety.  Jim doesn't believe that there is 
anything at all unsafe about it.  I know differently, but Jim refuses to 
acknowledge that.  shrug
 
Samala,
Renee
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list.  Project Greenlife are 
recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice.   It is on their website

http://www.projectgreenlife.com 

They no longer sell MMS according to their site.


  

Re: CSCS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

2010-07-05 Thread Sunny
I was told that Vicks vapor rub or any similar would reduce those nasty red ant 
bites within a day.   I think it's something to do with the eucalyptus, 
menthol.. that's in those things.

I spray CS plus oregano oil on all my bites.. it's semi relieving.. but not 
perfect..
 
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From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 11:02:54 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

The MAIN reason i suggested ES in a hot bath  was #1...it works and #2  if you 
get them like we do here in the deep south, they are really packed in the  
groin 
area, under the arm pits, behind knees...you get the picture.  I  would hate to 
have to put tooth paste, nail polish, etc in all the many,  many places they 
hang out.
 
Hope your hubby is much better with whatever road he chose to travel  with 
itchy 
problem.
 
Edith 


  

CSOT Moringa Tree

2010-06-29 Thread Sunny
Hey you guys and gals, I'm so excited about this new discovery of an all 
nutritious tree.  A friend persuaded a Chief in Zambia to donate land so he 
could build an ecovillage... and the chief said on one proviso.. that they 
plant 20,000 moringa trees.

Moringa’s fresh leaves have 7 times more vitamin C than oranges. Dry leaves 
have 25 times more iron than spinach; 4 times more protein than eggs; 10 times 
more vitamin A than carrots; 17 times more calcium than milk; and 15 times more 
potassium than bananas.

It grows outdoors tropically and outdoors in summer and indoors in winter in a 
place like Georgia, where we are.. or in greenhouses.. it's one of the fastest 
growing trees.

African countries are learning that this tree could save lives.. it is a kind 
of cure-all... So thought some of you would be interested in investigating more 
Moringa. You can buy the powder too for $22 or so a pound... and seedlings for 
$7.60 from Florida... might be another thing to put in the natural health 
cabinet.

Mine consists of MMS, CS [been great for the cat each time his lady 'friend' 
beats and claws him to pieces as well as my gums and with oregano oil for bites 
and cuts], Lavender oil, peppermint oil for insect repellent... and 
diamotaceous earth for colon cleansing... 

http://www.ilovemoringa.com/buyleafpowder.html   I'm not an affiliate and would 
still post it even if I were... because I think this could be the worlds next 
miracle.   I'm persuading a friend in St Lucia to start planting it and another 
friend in Mauritius is looking into introducing it to the island...

with love 
sunny


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Re: CSya might wanna know....ticks

2010-06-02 Thread Sunny
Have I missed something.. what's VVR?   Husband suggests digging a pin into the 
tick if it's dug in.. and pulling it out like that?  what d'y'all think?
 
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From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 11:36:21 AM
Subject: RE: CSya might wanna knowticks

 I have heard that when a tick dies still attached that it regurgitates upon 
death (if attached) and you want to pull them off by surprise so the toxins 
don't go into the host.
 

 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:58:38 -0700
From: s...@emotap.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSya might wanna knowticks

 
No bullseye rash?
Just checking.
I'm sure you were full to the brim with your CS, right?
---Original Message---
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 06/02/10 05:20:42
Subject: Re: CSya might wanna know
   I had one dug into my back where I couldn't reach it with anything but a
hard stretch and a Q Tip.
Thoughtgee VVR did great on the GFs dog mange mites, why not a
tick?...and tried it.
  Dabbed some on the sucker and waited an hour, then wiped him with a
butter knife edge...came right out DOR [dead on removal] and none of the
usual after itch...just a small reddish spot that went away pretty fast.
Ode
 
 

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CSDeodorant

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
I'm experimenting with CS and oil of oregano as a deodorant.. it seems to be 
working...

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Re: CSDeodorant

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
Hey, I've got one of those too!!! It's lasted since 2005!!!  I heard they run 
out after a year .. but it still works great.. and I had some gorgeous 
frankincense natural oil deodorant from Lush [a fancy shop in the uk] and keep 
it in the same bag.. so use that occasionally too.

Yes, they could kill the deodorant business but it's just a deodorant, like the 
CS mixture and you know how fussy people are about sweat.. the patches around 
their clothes etc.. if we can kill that fear, then we could kill the deathly 
aluminium deodorant business!!


 

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- Original Message 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 4:15:15 PM
Subject: Re: CSDeodorant

Don't fret about deodorant, use a 500 old crystal and never smell again. I 
guarantee it works, and you will never look back at any other deodorant again. 
If you go the Philippines, they sell this in huge chunks on the side of the 
road for a few bucks. Probably find it wholesale somewhere on the internets..

Few people really seem to know about it.. Probably by design, this stuff would 
kill the 20 million dollar a year deodorant industry in the US - overnight.. 
They love using our bodies as chemical disposal units.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tawas-Starter-Crystal-/300363223336?cmd=ViewItempt=UK_HeathBeauty_BathShowCons_RLhash=item45ef0b1128



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 working...
 
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Re: CSDeodorant

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
days Dorothy?  Is that a mistake... it doesn't seem very practical if it only 
lasts for days!   Perhaps I mistake how you mean 'days'.. !!!

love
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- Original Message 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 2:25:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSDeodorant

I have a marvellous one from Now Foods at iherb.  It is completely safe and 
lasts for days without needing to be renewed.  It is also really economical.  
dee

On 6 May 2010, at 16:19, Sunny wrote:

 I'm experimenting with CS and oil of oregano as a deodorant.. it seems to be 
 working...
 
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Re: CSDeodorant

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
I put some oregano oil drops into water and keep it in a bottle, shake it up 
and pour it into a CS spray bottle!   I use it when gardening to keep the bugs 
away... it isn't perfect, but it does seem to help.. I read oregano is a 
general 'pesticide' when used in the garden to ward off pests from other 
things!!! So I thought, maybe this will work on me!!

smiles
Also lemon balm dried leaves might be good too as they have citronella.  
 

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- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:37:19 AM
Subject: Re: CSDeodorant

How are you applying them. They shouldn't mix, one being water and the 
other oil.

Marshall

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  working...

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Re: CSGreg Caton Imprisoned

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
As with all these things there's a lot of informatio around.. what is true and 
what is not.. we cannot tell..

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=5007 

this has a lot of 'stuff' on the 'cancer cure'.  I'm aware that the FDA and the 
rest of the money-mongers are pretty 'corrupt' but we need to investigate 
everything and know why it happened.  Even this link says to me 'what do I know 
for sure?'...

And I'm against any oppression of any alternative cure..I hope he sold it cheap!

sunny



 

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- Original Message 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 9:03:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSGreg Caton Imprisoned

FDA/CIA/FTC has been hot on his heels for a long time, basically he invented a 
skin cancer cure, and openly sold it to anyone that needed it.. The level of 
oppression he went through is astounding.. Eventually he fled to Ecuador, 
became a citizen there, then they (FDA/CIA) kidnapped him from there.

Frank wrote:
 Jim,
 Does anyone know why?
 Regards Frank
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 From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:43 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSGreg Caton Imprisoned
 
 Hang them.
 
 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
 jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
 Altcancer founder Greg Caton was sentenced to two years in prison.
 
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Re: CSOT - GMO Problems: Monsanto article

2010-05-06 Thread Sunny
Monsanto invented and sold Agent Orange.. they've been adding something similar 
to Round-up. They also promoted and invented DDT.   They bought Searle which 
invented Aspartame.. Donald Rumsfeld was the CEO of Searle at one time..they 
are at heart [well it's just a saying as they obviously have little heart!] 
chemical manufacturers.. 

There is no question in my mind that they are all in all pretty uncaring, self 
concerned, money-mongers who have no regard for human life.

Their website is a sick attempt to sound as if they care about the environment  
containing a lot of 'semantically loaded' words.. and fluff..

Check out the film 'The World According to Monsanto'... google it..
made by a french woman.



 
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From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 9:47:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - GMO Problems: Monsanto article

This is the link I provided http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2915  and works 
for me 
without problems.   
This is the abbr.  link, perhaps that works better for you: 
http://tinyurl.com/32v6vhm  The article is up there and
hasn't been pulled down.  Unfortunately, the article is too long to
copy and print here as well as having quite a few pictures in
it.

At 07:20 AM 7/05/2010, you wrote:

Don't know much about this
stuff-- Just remeber the mention of Agent Orange years ago on the news,
wasn't that what made so many soldiers sick  When I tried to
read the article you referred to discovered they had pulled the
website
 
Gladys 

- Original Message -
From: Hanneke 
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: CSOT - GMO Problems
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Are you saying that you couldn't access the article I referred to about
Monsanto/Round-Up?

The article you posted is  dated March 2007.  I am not a fan of
Rima Laidbow.  Some of her info however is well documented.


At 10:39 AM 6/05/2010, you wrote:

healthfreedomusa.org yanked by webhost after Big Pharma
Slap
... 
Mar 14, 2007 ... Dr. Laibow just sent out a followup newsletter to
let all of us know her site, HealthFreedomUSA.org, the site
of the Natural Solutions ...
bitchslappin.net/.../healthfreedomusaorg 
-yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter -
 Cached-
 Similar

- Original Message -
From: Hanneke 
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: CSOT - GMO Problems
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 That's perhaps why Monsanto 'improved' their Round Up, now 
 containing up to 70% Agent Orange

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2915
 
 
 At 08:39 AM 6/05/2010, you wrote:
 Looks like the weeds have outsmarted Monsanto. But I feel sorry

 for the
 farmers.
 
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Re: CSOT Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto

2010-05-02 Thread Sunny
I though there, oh my we risk going OT again.. but I can't resist.   SONOTMAN - 
try that anagram - have their tentacles in government... with a swing door 
between executives.. who end up in the FDA/USDA etc.  I have a list..it's in 
Food Inc.

And that leads us to what can we do.  Expecting the powers that be to help us 
won't work. As afficionados of things alternative, we are a group of people who 
are already saying NO.  

Buying organic is great, and not everyone can afford it... so we must just GROW 
GROW GROW...and at the same time it is our civic responsibility to make others 
aware.   I go into stores with my husband and we have loud conversations about 
HFCS, Monsanto.. we tell people what's going on and what they're doing.. 

In the same way, I tell people about CS and how it works for me.  We have to be 
vociferous both about what's wrong - to get the masses who don't know on the 
bandwagon and THEN we have to do something else..


 
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From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 6:24:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto


Day,
 
 Try as much as possible to 
only eat organic foods.
 
 Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Day 
  Sutton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeat claimed as 
  invention by Monsanto

They already own the patent on every soybean in the 
  world!  GM is Roundup Ready this means they can spray Roundup on 
  soybean crops and only the weeds will be killed.  How much Roundup are we 
  getting with soymilk, beans, etc???


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net   wrote:

Anne,

 Monsanto is THE most evil 
company on the planet.  They are tryoing to poison the entire human 
population with their GM foods.  They are a bunch of nazis, nothing 
more and nothing less.

 Bob
- Original 
Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: CS List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 
9:55 AM
Subject: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto
 




Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto

http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178

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Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

2010-04-13 Thread Sunny
Thank YOU all.  I get so many emails, from this list and two others as 
prolific, that I just cant read them all. But the hand of God, fate, the force, 
whatever you call it, made me open one mail... which was titled originally 
'where is everybody' which led tothis one..and I got the answer to my question..

My rods went dark, I wiped them with a paper towel. But now I'm not gonna any 
more I trust this Old Bob and Sol... and I make the decisions myself ofcourse!

So thanks... 

Also, one thing... My cat got in a fight, and I immediately put CS on his 
scratched eye.. it went all yukky yesterday and I put more on and this morning 
it seems much better, les pussy, more caking into a good wound healing.

Wow. For CS and MMS is ALL we have. We are almost broke, lost our car in a 
terrible accident, which my husband survived [car pulled right in front of him 
with no signal in busy Atlanta 6-lane traffic and we hate going to Atlanta and 
live miles out in the countryside]... and no insurance to replace, the 
perpetrator drove off and no numbers.. but lots of witnesses! And no money to 
buy a new one.  So we thought, someone may gift us an old car they have hanging 
around... 

Yesterday someone answered a facebook plea and lives locally and drove round to 
our place and took us back and loaned us her newish Isuzu Trooper, until April 
22 when her husband returns and needs it for work.  She even offered to swap 
with her two day old fancy new car if she needeed it to haul something over the 
weekend.

We live in the hold of some 'angelic' grace.. and it falls when times get hard 
and we pray or just ask for answers from somewhere... surrender..

thank you and apologies for my profusion.. this is one of those days..

sunny x





 

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- Original Message 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:39:14 AM
Subject: Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

Hi sol, I think you could be right about the rods, because I used a melamine 
pad and am wondering if some of the melamine stuck to the rods.  I've always 
only used paper towels so as this has happened, I'm thinking that this could be 
the reason.  I will not clean them in future and see what happens.  Thanks for 
the info.  dee

On 13 Apr 2010, at 00:47, sol wrote:

 
 
 Dee,
 When you clean electrodes with a scrubbie, you are actually sanding silver 
 off them. You get a nice smooth shiny electrode, which takes longer to make 
 silver, because surface area that is putting ions into the water is actually 
 reduced. Those dull pitted electrodes have more surface area from which to 
 lose ions into the water so they are more efficient and make CS faster.
 If I have any of this wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.
 
 But, I no longer clean jars unelss the inside surfaces turn yellow, which 
 means they have a coating of silver which can interfere with proper 
 brewing.and I only wipe electrodes down very rarely. I 
 use either a clean kleenex tissue or a corner of clean white paper towel. But 
 mostly I just don't wipe them. No matter how cruddy they look, mine seem to 
 make good CS, and I don't find the crud hurts anything at all. I believe it 
 was Ole Bob who long ago told me not to bother cleaning electrodes, and also 
 not to clean jars unless they get plated.
 sol
 
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Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????

2010-04-07 Thread Sunny
Better link to the same man, filmed by others.  Better vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi3ihrUHJU

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From: Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 4:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?

 
Do you know why the address will not come up for me? What do I ask for on 
you tube? Thank you Marlene
- Original Message - 
From: Annie 
  B Smythe 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:07 
  AM
Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims 
  ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick

Yeah Dee, it's just a confirmation for me too. You 
can find 
  the whole talk by this same guy on you 
tube if you put his name in a 
  search on youtube. 
Heck, that is if you can get youtube across the 
  pond:/

Annie

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  Welsh


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 This is such an eye opener 
  Annie, but doesn't surprise me at all I have to say!  dee
 
 
 On 6 Apr 2010, at 20:00, Annie B Smythe wrote:
 
 
  Got this in an email this morning, thought y'all might find it interesting 
 and 
  informative.

 A whistleblower claims the drug industry 
  wants to keep us sick.
 Video is in English

 
 http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/video/General/3651/%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F,_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%90%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94.html

 
  Annie
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Re: CSOT - CHEMTRAILS OVER LOS ANGELES

2010-03-25 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
OK, Ode, you have an explanation and I get that and I am still thinking what 
about the statement in Bob's post that said residues had been discovered?  I 
checked one of the sites and found this.  NOW the quest, it seems, for anyone 
who might want to follow the trail is 'how true is this information in the 
paragraphs below?' And as Bob said, now might be a good time, anyway, to take 
CS/EIS regularly, as I did last night when interacting with someone who had a 
cold.  

There is pollution in the food, in the air, in the soil, in the waters and even 
in the carpets... 

Regardless of this data, it reinforces to me that CS is a vital tool in our 
drive to MAINTAIN WELLNESS [yes that is meant to be shouting ;-)...

I gave the man with the cold a bottle of CS and told him what to do.  It seems 
to me that by passing this on with some words of information and validation on 
a personal and trusted others reports of success, we are doing a great service. 
 

And with that I re-ask the question... how true is this information and wonder 
who might be incited to follow this particular trail ;-)  Still remembering 
that when we build our defences, our most precious, our immune system, we are 
fuelling the soldiers who fight our invaders and keep this precious vessel 
alive, healthy and able to be better from feeling better..

Geo-Engineering (Wikipedia def) is the artificial modification of Earth's 
climate systems.
Geo-Engineering projects range from DECLASSIFIED experimentation (like iron 
particles being dumped into the oceans to attract algae, which sequesters 
carbon and, theoretically, slows global warming) to HIGHLY CLASSIFIED 
experimentation like AEROSOL SPRAYING (chemical spraying). The two most quickly 
advancing Geo-Engineering philosophies are carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and 
solar radiation management (SRM). Geo-Engineering also includes EMF/Atomspheric 
Heaters, like HAARP.

This website DOES NOT track the movements of citizen based geo-engineering 
projects, like living roofs, tree planting etc. Our focus is the industrial 
scaled programs both private and government born, that have the potential AND 
LIKELIHOOD TO DEVASTATE OUR PLANET. Current Geo-Engineering News (and 
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VOLUMES OF DATA, LAB TESTS AND VIDEO FOOTAGE, FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE, MAKE 
CLEAR THE CONCLUSION THAT AEROSOL SPRAYING HAS BEEN AN ONGOING LETHAL REALITY. 

Aluminum, Barium and other elements have been found in surface waters, air 
samples and soil tests, HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF TIMES HIGHER THAN EPA 
ALLOWABLE LEVELS.
Geoengineer David Keith announced at the AAAS meeting in San Diego, On 
Saturday, Feb. 20th, that the stratospheric AEROSOL geoengineering program is 
no longer considering using sulfur and NOW WILL BE USING ALUMINUM, over 10 
MEGATONS per year. 

.we havent done anything serious on aluminum (studies, research etc) and 
so there could be something terrible that we will find tomorrow that we havent 
looked at it.
- David Keith, at the AAAS meeting in San Diego
Here, David Keith tells the US House hearings that rich people could buy an ICE 
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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 7:32:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT - CHEMTRAILS OVER LOS ANGELES



What you find on the ground has no meaning at all.  There's all sorts of crap 
on the ground and you just don't know where it came from.
  Unless you go up there and take a direct sample, chem trails remain a con 
perfectly explainable by relative humidity, the fact that air is not homogenous 
and the addition of water vapor from hydro-carbon combustion kicks high 
humidity zones into cloud formation.
Even the jet cannot possibly carry that much water [or spray] and most of it 
was already there.  Hydro-carbon Hydrogen plus Oxygen = water.  Add come 
carbon particles for that water to condense onto with an increased relative 
humidity = cloud that will not dissipate while the air at that altitude is that 
damp.
There are ways to calculate the volume and weight of water in a cloud and the 
numbers just don't add up to an airplane being ABLE to carry it all up there. 
NOT POSSIBLE
That 

Re: CSKid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award

2010-03-23 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
This IS interesting.  And I know that there are people on here who must have 
done experiments that go beyond the scientific 101 of this kid.  Does anyone 
have any research they've done similar to this. I want to post it on Facebook!  
I use facebook to spread the word of many things I like and am always on the 
lookout for more EVIDENCE, beyond my own beliefs and experiences.   

Thank you Annie for your never-ceasing research gene!

sunny
 
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From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: CS List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 8:41:10 PM
Subject: CSKid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award

This is a PDF file and a download window will pop up when you click on the 
link, you need a PDF reader to view the article. :)

The experiment and results are very interesting. :)

http://www.wateroz.com/resources/rediscovering-silver-article.pdf

Annie
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Re: CSkidney stones

2010-03-23 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Sara, I wish you well.   I was struck by a line in your post about your Amish 
friends helping you build a shed.  Have you posted more about them... I am 
always interested in finding information about people connecting like this.. it 
made my heart smile.  I get so many posts with this and two other voluminous 
lists, often I miss things.  Please can you share more about them... My aim, I 
am discovering is to find, as my husband says, the tendrils that connect ALL 
groups, and be part of that uniting.

What I love about this list, and I've said it before, is that Mike lets it 
follow all avenues of natural wellness and even beyond that. It is this 
tolerance and embracement of all ways of thinking that will help us make 
progress in helping this world heal...

thank you
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From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 8:29:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSkidney stones

I've done an olive oil and grapefruit juice liver flush that does release the 
gallstones, when taken after
a number of doses of epsom salts (relaxes all the ducts).   Don't know if epsom 
salts might also help
with the kidney stones.  Good news is it is helping - to some extent at any 
rate.  Took the dose after
I wrote the post, few hours ago.  Still having some waves but not nearly as 
intense as prior to the dose.
And I finally feel hungry - was nauseus, probably from the pain, all day.  The 
oil mixture was hard to keep down.   But it sure was worth it.  Its not fixed 
yet, but so much better.   I'll probably take another
dose before bed.   Jumping might be helpful, but I'm not up for it, not today 
at any rate.   If its not better by morning, I'll try guzzling a bunch of coke 
and follow it up with asparagus.  I never have coke on hand, but our Amish 
friends are helping us with building a shed, and they enjoy it for a treat, so 
have plenty to give it a try.  Sara
 Hi,  I've read of the olive oil and lemon juice but for gallstones not kidney 
 stones.
 
 I was taught that in China they give people something to relax them, have 
 them drink lots of water and then jump rope.
 Good luck.
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CSFw: Lest We Forget

2010-03-20 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
All of us here share the common interest of alternative wellness
methods be it colloidal silver or many of the other things that Mike so
kindly allows discussion of on here.  You, like me, may well have been
led to explore these alternatives because of the failure of standard
medical practice to help you or your friends/loved ones.

I have no healthcare, I can't afford it and don't want it.   I accept
that in certain circumstances [and even those can be avoided when we
are totally present and aware e.g. 'accidents'] current medical
healthcare is our savior. However, the reason we need healthcare as it
is is because the government, food and pharmaceutical industries are in
cahoots to make profits at the expense of our health.

When we address this situation at grass roots level, we will find that
the answer to our challenges and more importantly the challenges of our
children and those that come to this earth after we are long gone, is
to eat healthy and nutritious food untainted by chemicals or additives.


There is probably less hope for those of us alive on this earth today
because we have already been infected.  Unless you grew up eating
organic, untainted food and never touched coffee, junk, sugar etc in
the kind of proportions we are mostly used to, you, like me, will be
facing health challenges.

I write this because I want to urge you to pass on this message and to
watch and if you have already seen them, to share movies such as Food
Inc... Fresh, The Story of Stuff, The Story of Cap and Trade 
http://www.thestoryofstuff.com [both films are on this site] and I know
you are a receptive audience, who care about wellness... and know how
important it is, even if we cannot save ourselves, to make sure that
the Earth is freed from the forces that are destroying our health and
that of the Earth we depend on for our nurture.  We must work to ensure
the freedom of future generations to live a healthy, untainted life.

I wrote this piece today and feel it appropriate to share it here..
with respect and love sunny x

Many of you may have seen Food Inc and been horrified. Such is the
media overload today and our fear that it is easy to forget. I have
transcribed Food Inc in comprehensive note form, word for word in most
cases. I intend to keep reminding people of the very important message
of this film. If you want to help, make sure you share this movie with
everyone you know.

AND the reason we are spreading this information is not fear-mongering.
It is to make people aware. Your inclination may be to feel powerless.
YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS. AND you cannot fight in conventional ways. And
you will make little progress trying to lobby government. That's like
trying to get Hitler to embrace Judaism. We are for RE- EVOLUTON not
REVOLUTION.

The most powerful way to move through this VEIL [anagram that] is to
lose your selfish indifference, we all have it because we are all
fearful in some way of change, to look out for your neighbor, those
close to you, for we can only work at small local levels, and do your
own thing.

Organize small social RE-EVOLUTIONS in your community, You can be more
powerful at grass roots level than as part of a huge group.

REPURPOSE, RE-USE, RECYCLE and REFUSE. Stop buying unnecessary stuff.
How many clothes or phones or gadgets do you really need?

Grow trees, plant heirloom non-hybrid seeds, save them, Get your
neighbors together and start to grow a community garden if you live in
the city. If you are lucky enough to live rurally, get to know your
neighbors, share your concern for what's going on.

Talk about sharing food, you grow one thing they grow another. Look
into getting alternative energy forms that make you self sufficient.
Investigate alternative low cost wellness methods in addition to
growing healthy food.


Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own
water,  make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of
healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are
sharing remedies and information.

DROP OUT of the system as best you can. Without our tax dollars and
support of veiled corporations, the system will disintegrate.

How Monsanto Infiltrated Government - too many coincidences - too many
conflict of interests

Justice Clarence Thomas
Attorney Monsanto 76 -79
Supreme Court Justice 1991- present
Allowed seed saving restrictions


BUSH ADMINISTRATION

Donald Rumsfeld Searle CE0
Searle bought by Monsanto – Searle created Aspartame

John Ashcroft
Missouri Senator received heavy campaign donations from Monsanto

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION

Mickey Kantor
Board of directors Monsanto 2000 - 02

Robert Shapiro
CEO Monsanto 95 – 2000
On Clintons Advisory Board


Wendell Murphy
North Carolina State Senator 89 – 93
Smithfield Board of Directors 2 – now [Smithfield are largest
mass hog slaughterhouse]

Margaret Miller
Chemical Lab supervisor Monsanto 85 – 89
FDA Branch

Re: CSThe Future of Food

2010-03-15 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
RE US and UK..having been in both worlds.. there are a lot of BBC links from 
the UK including ability to watch BBC shows online that don't work here.   Hulu 
is one xample of the vice versa situation. Couldn't access it from UK IP. know 
why, must be some international agreement... crazy eh.  Don't think it's about 
them keeping the film close... You may need to google it and check it out in 
the UK DVD rental.   I found it on Netflix here... so we're gonna have to rent 
it as we can't view online in regular hours!

smiles
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From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 8:14:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSThe Future of Food

Annie this link is only for those within the US not International so if you 
would mind cutting and pasting it or putting it into an Adobe reader file and 
send it to me I would appreciate it very much - I am sure it is very 
interesting which is why they want to keep it close smile
Take good care and have a wonderful day
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Re: CSShingles

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey again, thanks all.. shingles not gone yet, but haven't yet received chinese 
medicine or MSM.. Like your friend, Lois, I'll try anything... haven't got 
any glycerine, but assumed it's a non active ingredient, so just tried today 
pasting on CS and DMSO in the same ration as you suggested.. let's see... I'm 
concerned about the post shingles neuralgia.. that some sites 'threaten'... but 
know it's better not to focus on what I don't want... 

I had NO idea shingles came from having chicken pox.. and that there is a 
vaccine in theUS for those over 62 [I don't qualify yet!]... off to investigate 
that vaccine now.. I am wary of all vaccines..but just curious..

Appreciate your offers and have tried as many as the bank will allow right 
now!!! 

Am making my CS with a generator... 

with love
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From: Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 5:56:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSShingles


Suan Zao Ren Tang.  It's a Chinese herbal formula.  The shingles will be gone 
in a day or two.




- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSShingles

In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:42:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various 
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere.   

sunny
Hi Sunny, found this by chance when I read one of the GMO subjects... I have a 
friend who was hit by a really bad case of shingles. I had never tried this 
but she said she would try anything.  I gave her some EIS--( CS )  a bottle 
of what I call the Brooks Mix  She took a tsp per day of EIS (CS)   applied 
the Mix to the shingles topically... In about a week they were gone. This 
was over a year ago  she had one reoccurrence when she had not had any EIS. 
Now she has her own simple generator  no more shingles...
www.atlasnova.com ...    The Mix =   75%  EIS (CS) ---10 % DMSO ---15 % 
Glycerin   ... It is also great to cure many skin problems... {{ I use a shot 
glass-- 3-shots of EIS---1 shot of DMSO  11/2 shot glycerin... give it a 
shake shake before you put it on.}}
   There are a lot of good generators out there. The one from atlasnova is 
just the one I found out about first  very reasonable Good luck-- Lois


  

Re: CSGMO foods

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Here's another great place for seeds and anyone wanting to get medicinal 
herbs.  Ships out of Oregon.   They will ship to Germany - read this rider - to 
International Customers, they specify certain European countries where they 
cannot guarantee arrival.. Germany is NOT one.  You want dried seeds anyway, 
not fresh ones.. as they wouldn't last the journey probably.


And there's no reason why they wouldn't pass customs as there probably isnt 
some law about buying seeds yet... it's just that so many of the seeeds 
available are tainted... so you've gotta look far and wide.

This place was recommended by my permaculture instructor Chuck Marsh who grows 
medicinal herbs and plants as well as unusual ones. He's been at it for 35 
years... and I trust his recommendations.

www.horizonherbs.com

They are also authors of a new herbal medicinal book.. sounds great, so I 
ordered it... I'm going to start making essaic tea... google that one...

with love
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From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 2:29:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods

I wonder if the seeds would make customs over here in Germany, or if they would 
be returned to sender :-(
I guess I should just give the company a call before I spend time picking seeds 
to order.

We have, apparently, GMO butternuts, cause we've already tried 3 yrs in a row, 
to grow butternuts from the seeds taken from the squash we buy directly from 
the farmer. When I asked him what the deal was, why we never really got any 
decent squash, he told us he had to buy new seeds every year. I hadn't heard of 
Monsanto at the time, but it sure did click when I watched the movie about 
Monsanto.

Aldi


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:

So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes.  Some of them are engineered to be 
sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange 
and Aspartame.  Do you want such people in charge of what you eat?

Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted.  Deadline for orders March 
10

www.fedcoseeds.com  If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these 
are the people to buy from!  No affiliations - wish there were!  

with love and hope
sunny
 
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CSCS Everywhere

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Shopping today in the local church food shop for the 'less wealthy' or as some 
call it 'The THursday shop' we were perusing the ridiculously low cost vitamins 
when we heard the word 'silver'.

My husband says to the guy 'are you talking about colloidal silver?'  Yes he 
says.. I've been using it for 10 years. Got a generator made by some guy up 
Mineral Bluff way'..
 
He was a retired cop now working as a bodyguard.  He said that he got a bad 
sinus infection a couple of times and used CS.. and every day he sprays it down 
his throat religiously.  
 
Then he took our facebook address and said 'let's connect'.
 
In these back hollers, it's refreshing to know the word is spreading and has 
been slowly infiltrating...
 
sunny

 

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Re: CSGMO

2010-03-08 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Wow and how sad.   

Last night watched an episode of Little House in the Prairie.   Charles Ingalls 
got the chance to go to Chicago as rep of Walnut Grove at a national 
organisation for farmers/railroad conference.   He was put in a private 
compartment on the train, a suite in the plush hotel and wined and dined.. and 
then taken aside by a guy who said 'we'll make sure you get your grain lift at 
your local station'.  Ingalls was naively delighted.  

Later in his hotel room a 'lady of the night' knocks on his door saying she'd 
been sent by the head honcho.   He of course refuses.   Next day he goes to the 
conference and the same guy takes him aside saying 'so you'll be voting 'no' to 
state regulations?'.  

Ingalls looked confused and then he got it.   He stood up and spoke his mind at 
the farmers meeting, denouncing the bribery and giving up any chance of getting 
the much needed grain lift for the local train station.   He travelled home in 
the peasants carriage!

In this day and age his equivalent would probably have been blackmailed, gotten 
an incurable disease out of the blue or worse still too damned scared  to vote 
with his conscience for fear of losing dollars.

Not wanting to make waves has become a national epidemic, very similar to the 
one that swept Nazi Germany and occupied Europe.  

And it makes perfect sense that Irene Sendler, who rescued 2,500 Jewish 
children from the Warsaw Ghetto in her toolbox lost out on the Nobel Prize 
to Al Gore who, as someone so eloquently put it, got it for giving a slide show 
on the environment which cost zillions of carbon miles to make!

And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various 
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere.   

sunny
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From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 9:31:45 AM
Subject: CSGMO


Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all =
farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on =
government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, =
marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to =
threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations =
have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep =
the money coming.

So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private =
members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic =
producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic =
producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) =
is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with =
his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian =
government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate =
on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can =
be no different in the U.S. Get the picture?
Leo
-=
---



  

Re: CSGMO foods

2010-03-07 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Correction of facts. So Not Man did not create Aspartame.  They bought out 
Searle who did create it. Then they changed its name to Nutra Sweet and sold it 
on after making their load.   

And I feel sick. They have a philanthropic arm which travesties of all 
travesties uses the Ghandi quote 'we must be the change we need to see in the 
world'. That must mean they are a bunch of genetically modified, sterile, 
poisonous clones.. Call the CDC and quarantine the lot of them.

sorry, couldn't resist that one

http://www.monsantofund.org/asp/welcome.asp 

Most people don't know about Monsanto and their doings. So once again, I urge 
you pass on the information.. develop an elevator speech which you can use 
to people you meet in the supermarket.. 

And so to bed and my does of CS... goodnight all.. time to chill out with an 
episode or two of Little House on the Prairie!

 
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From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 4:41:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods


So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes.  Some of them are engineered to be 
sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange 
and Aspartame.  Do you want such people in charge of what you eat?

Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted..  Deadline for orders March 
10

www.fedcoseeds.com  If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are 
the people to buy from!  No affiliations - wish there were!  

with love and hope
sunny
 
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From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods

Steve,

It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the 
plant, in the soil and IN the plant.

Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway.

Aldi


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

There are two main theories about the bee population problem.

One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm

There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' 
ability to find their way home.   Having some trouble finding a site for that.

No evidence of GMO involvement.

Steve

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net wrote:


From: djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net
Subject: CSGMO foods 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM 



Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population?
Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way.

Debbie
 



  

Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

2010-03-05 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey all, I'm on a mission to spread the word, and if we are to do that we need 
information that we can distribute in easily digestible form

The very fact that we are all interested in CS and other alternative wellness 
methods suggests that we care about our nutrition and what goes into our 
bodies.  
 
I've just received a powerpoint presentation from a friend [who is a CPA about 
to give up her financially lucrative career to campaign for local food and work 
on her town's transition and grow her own food full time]   
 
The presentation is about local organic food as the answer to the 
horrors wreaked on our food supply by the big conglomerates.  Here are some 
facts that she has carefully researched and which you can pass on to people you 
talk to if you wish...They might scare people into doing something.. 
 
AND there are solutions.  Permaculture is one... you can google it or see this 
simple explanatory article on my blog site with a lot of blog postings about my 
own permaculture design course experience and what I learned.

http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog/permaculture/permaculture/
 
A PLEA FOR LOCAL FOOD AND SELF-SUSTAINABILITY THROUGH ORGANIC AND HEALTHY FOOD 
PRACTISES
 
Please, if you love your food and value your health and that of your children 
and the future, use these facts to engage people in conversation in the store, 
in the street, the workplace, at your kids schools or PTA's.   Speak to 
everyone ask questions... do you know where your food comes from? Are you 
worrieda bout your kids nutrition or whether there will be any decent food left 
for them.
 
It's so important that we raise awareness... otherwise we will all go sheeplike 
to our slaughter...
 
We are losing bio-diversity, water quality, seasonal and regional food habits 
as well as encountering mad cow disease and the perils of GMO foods, all of 
which is damaging to our health.  This is happening because we are in the grips 
of  big biz agriculture.  And we are hypnotically entranced by the media to buy 
fast food and accept unacceptable food additives.  Dontcha just hate the word 
'all natural'.. what does it really mean... 
 
THE FACTS
 
We are consuming huge quantities of ever decreasing oil supplies through modern 
agricultural practises
 
n Americans consume 400 gallons each of oil a year (17% of our nation’s 
energy use) for agriculture
n Tractors, combines, harvesters, irrigation, sprayers, tillers, balers  
other equipment, synthetic fertilizers, pesticides  herbicides
n From seed to harvest takes 1/5th of oil used
n Most oil is used to get food from farm to your plate
n Fuel-thirsty processing steps:  drying, milling, cutting, sorting, 
baking.  Also, packaging
n Each food item in a typical U.S. meal has traveled an average of 1,500 
miles
 
Agriculture is controlled by HUGE multi-national corporates who are in it for 
great profit NOT to feed us healthily.   In the same way healthcare that makes 
a profit cannot have human interest as its primary concern.
 
n Four firms control 85% of global coffee roasting
n A small group of multinationals handles 80% of world trade in cocoa, 
pineapples, tea  bananas
n Merger of Philip Morris  Nabisco in 2000 created food conglomerate that 
collects nearly 10 cents of every dollar an American spends on food
n Five companies control 75% of the global vegetable seed market
n Seed companies patent more  more genetically modified varieties and 
prevent seed saving
n Four companies slaughter 81% of American beef
n Cargill, Inc. controls 45% of the globe’s grain trade  Archer Daniels 
Midland controls 30% of the globe’s grain trade
n Number of potato farmers in Idaho has fallen by half in last 15 years
n Four multinational companies control over 70% of fluid milk sales in the 
U.S.
n One Ohio “farm” produces 3 billion eggs per year
 
Chemical farming is destructive to our bodies, our plant life and costs a lot 
of MONEY  
More than 500 species of insects  mites now resist chemical controls, along 
with over 150 viruses  other plant pathogens 
Some 300 weed species resist all herbicides 
1965  -  335 million pounds of pesticides 
1989  -  806 million pounds of pesticides 
1999  -  985 million pounds of pesticides   (at a cost of $8 billion) 
 
How Monsanto screws us
 
In 1999, farmer sued by Monsanto  lost the case  Allegation: possession of 
intellectual property (“gene”drifted to his plants) 
If seeds remain in the soil, itis technically illegal to harvest because 
according to the law the farmer has stolen Monsanto genes. 
Farmers could lose “organic”status due to contamination by GMOs 
 
What kind of GMO practises are going with the food we eat if we don't buy 
selectively or grow our own?
 
Human growth genes into fish, pigs  other livestock  (grow larger  more 
quickly) 
Flounder into tomatoes (grow  store at lower temperatures) 
Pesticide gene into corn  other vegetables (resist pesticides) 

Re: CSGMO foods

2010-03-04 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes.  Some of them are engineered to be 
sterile, so you have to buy and buy. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange and 
Aspartame.  Do you want such people in charge of what you eat?

Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted.  Deadline for orders March 
10

www.fedcoseeds.com  If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are 
the people to buy from!  No affiliations - wish there were!  

with love and hope
sunny
 
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From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods

Steve,

It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the 
plant, in the soil and IN the plant.

Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway.

Aldi


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

There are two main theories about the bee population problem.

One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm

There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' 
ability to find their way home.   Having some trouble finding a site for that.

No evidence of GMO involvement.

Steve

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net wrote:


From: djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net
Subject: CSGMO foods 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM 



Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population?
Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way.

Debbie
 




  

CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

2010-03-03 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link 
from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All


Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, 
human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? 
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Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

2010-03-03 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
If you care about civil liberties you should care.  The great Not So Man is 
creating seeds that are modified to not produce seeds after one time use.  
That's building in fake obsolescence for the pure motives of profit.   They are 
also claiming patents on their genes.  We all know that GMO seeds spread in the 
wind.  Farmers in Mexico wanted to grow a form of old time heirloom corn.. 
they'd been growing for years. They discovered when tested that their corn had 
been fertilized by GMO seeds and contained GMO genes.   The move of So Not Man 
is to patent their genes so that corn like this no longer belongs to the 
farmers but to them.    

Even if you dont care about your health... please care about our liberties. 
When Hitler started to prune the Jews, many didn't care..it's not happening on 
our doorstep... but he had to be stopped otherwise he'd have gotten total power 
and then eradicated not ony Jews, but everyone of mixed race, black, native 
american, chinese... 

Big oaks from little acorns grow...and in this case they're not friendly like 
oaks!

Many of the seeds have to be used with fertilizer and herbicides, all of which 
destroy the earth.  Every move to encroach on our liberties is subtle.. it 
comes with subtle messages that this is 'for our own good' and is, IMO a method 
of controlling us.   

please think again!
with love and care for what happens to our liberties
sunny x
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From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM


This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this 
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All


Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural 
wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? 
http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog 


Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth 
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Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

2010-03-03 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/monsanto-gm-corn-causing_n_425195.html?ref=fb

part of the research about rats getting organ failure it's not conclusive, but 
it's worrying and warrants further research.

Do we trust a company who also produced DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame..to 
name a few AND are not sorry for what they've done?    

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

Sorry Mike, but this is kind of important... and want to honor the fact that 
you have been very wonderful about not being all huffy around off topic. 
Perhaps that's because foundating our interest in CS is a general caring about 
finding more healthy ways of living and simpler wellness approaches...


I'll say no more
sunny x

 
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From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM


This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this 
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All


Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural 
wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? 
http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog 


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Re: CSmoon on fingernails? Agyria

2010-02-03 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey, I posted on facebook about CS and someone mentioned the 'blue' thing.  I 
have so many postings here, can't find it.. can anyone quickly answer this... 
HOW MUCH is TOO MUCH?

thanks 
sunny x
 
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From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails?

If it's ablue moon, too much colloidal silver water or contaminated colloidal 
silver salts may be being ingested.

John


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:

Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 'moon' on 
them when he increased his CS consumption.  Can someone on this list tell me 
what this looks like?  Thanks  Kathy



  

Re: CSglass bottles

2010-01-23 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks all for volunteering info.  As for amber glass bottles, Freund only sell 
wholesale.. but this place does sell them individually.

www.specialitybottles.com 

sunny x
 
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From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 5:44:29 AM
Subject: Re: CSbi-polar

Just what proof do you have of that advice, Dee?  It's been known for years 
that dark amber colored glass bottles are the very best to store CSW in.  The 
Freund company has great dark amber glass bottles with plastic tops so they 
won't rust or corrode.  What is best is best - not just make-do...

John 


On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

you don't need brown containers to store it in.  dee 


On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:17, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

Just wondering if anyone has any advice to help slight bi-polar mania 
[obviously NOT pharma!...]

thanks
sunny

PS  My silver generator arrived today.. am gonna make the first batch 
tonight.. I have boiled in a huge stainless steel tub, a canning jar and 
hoping it is gonna be relatively OK
PPS Anyone got any good links to purchase brown containers to store silver 
water
 




  

CSbi-polar

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Just wondering if anyone has any advice to help slight bi-polar mania 
[obviously NOT pharma!...]

thanks
sunny

PS  My silver generator arrived today.. am gonna make the first batch tonight.. 
I have boiled in a huge stainless steel tub, a canning jar and hoping it is 
gonna be relatively OK
PPS Anyone got any good links to purchase brown containers to store silver water
 
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Re: CSHerniated disc's

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
John, any idea where to buy good Vit C online? or anyone else?   I am not rich 
[understatement!] but don't want to waste money on poor quality stuff..

thanks
sunny
 
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From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:30:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSHerniated disc's

Hi, Jason:

35 years ago I had a herniated disc with the accompanying pain shooting down my 
sciatic nerve.. I was also seeing a chiropractor every two weeks for an 
adjustment.   I started a number of supplements at the time to heal another 
problem, but the one supplement that tightened the tissues up around the disc 
was vitamin C. Within six months I was not seeing a chiropractor and my disc 
was healing.  I was taking 10,000 mg of Vitamin C at that time. When I thought 
at the time I may be looking at a disc removal and fusion of two vertabrae, ikt 
passed.  I have taken 10,000 mg daily for the last 35 years.  I have now upped 
the vitamin C to between 15,000 mg - 18,000 mg daily (over the course of the 
day with meals).  There is a bowel tolerance with Vit C.  You need to build-up 
to the 10,000 mg daily over the course of a week to two weeks.  If it loosens 
your bowel movements, don't worry - your system will adapt.  Add some calcium, 
vit D 3, silica and
 magnesium to your supplement list.  Cod liver oil or Krill oil should help 
with the inflamation.  You must be very disciplined and from my experience, 
you'll have to take these supplements forever.  If I don't take my Vit C for a 
day, two or three, my back notices it very soon.  I've tested it...As long as I 
stay on my regimen, I have no problems and haven't had any problems, THANK GOD, 
in 35 years.  Good luck.

John


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Jason chemtrail_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello, my name is Jason I'm  50 yr.
 old male with a health issue.The problem is I have 2 herniated disc's that 
 seem to be inflamed with possible infection.They are pain full and are 
 causing me to loose muscle mass on my left side, and to walk with a limp.I 
 wish I
 could find a alternative cure for the back problem other
 then some type of conventional medicine like surgery,and antibiotics.I feel 
 if the infection could be cured then the disc's could possible heal 
 themselfs??? Does Any have experience treatment,or any good idea's for me?





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CSdental caries

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey, all you magic helpers..here's another query from me..

I have a cavity and can't go to the dentist.  Is there anything I can do and 
might CS help?  I thought I was helping by spraying store bought cs [which I 
mixed with oil of oregano in the bottle and probably destroyed the silver???] 
into my cavity... 

much appreciated and think that's all for now...
smiles
sunny x
 
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CSppm

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Well, it wasn't the last... 

Please can someone explain all the complexities around ppm. I am worn out with 
reasearching and clicking and thought someone here must just know it...

I can set my generator from 5ppm to 20ppm.. What is the difference and when 
would I want to use 5 or 20? 

thanks
sunny 
 
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Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Have seen this site, it's wonderful.. and the guy has now been thrown out of 
where he was.. and of course you can only make the oil, legally, if you can 
grow legally and that depends whether you are in a medicinal-hempfriendly 
state... 

sad state of affairs... 
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From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 2:01:21 PM
Subject: RE: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer


Medicinal hemp oil
 
Check the website:  phoenixtears.com and watch the video “Run From the Cure”.
 
Lisa
 



From:Scotty [mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:55 AM
To: Silver List
Subject: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer
 
I have a good friend that found out last week he has stage four cancer in one 
of his tonsils that has spread to the surrounding lymph nodes. He is going to 
Stanford this week for 8 weeks of radiation and chemo. Is there anything else 
he can alternatively do? They have given him 2 to 6 months to live if this 
treatment doesn ' t work.

Scotty
Have a great day!


  

Re: CSjuicer

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Anything with twin gears as the gears macerate the plant not whizz it around at 
great heat...

Greenstar is the one we have had for several years... 
 
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From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: cs silver-l...@eskimo..com
Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 1:16:02 PM
Subject: CSjuicer


What is the best juicer out there that doesn't damage the product?
thanks Debbie



  

Re: CSdental caries

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks Mary-Ann... I googled 'godzilla unit' but came up with lots of 'monster' 
links.. can you kindly share who sells them.. please... If this works it will 
be a wonderful miracle as the tooth is attached to a 5-tooth bridge that cost 
me $6k [back when I could!!] and if that goes.. I'll be a toothless hag!!!  

thanks
sunny x
 
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From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 1:49:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSdental caries


Well -- I can tell you what I did.  At the recommendation of another list 
member here, I bought a Godzilla unit and used it to treat the cavity (which is 
really an infection in the tooth).  That killed the infection.  Then I bought a 
toothpaste designed to remineralize teeth.  I'll be darned if it didn't work!  
However -- mine was a reallly small cavity, and I don't know if that makes a 
difference.
MA





From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:22:14 PM
Subject: CSdental caries


Hey, all you magic helpers..here's another query from me...

I have a cavity and can't go to the dentist.  Is there anything I can do and 
might CS help?  I thought I was helping by spraying store bought cs [which I 
mixed with oil of oregano in the bottle and probably destroyed the silver???] 
into my cavity... 

much appreciated and think that's all for now...
smiles
sunny x
 
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Re: CSdental caries

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks John... I have oregano oil.. not Dr Clarks stuff.. that was what I mixed 
with the CS..and wondered if it had completely duffed up the CS... anyone 
know??? 

I am going to spray it directly into the cavity.. I actually have 3 but none of 
them are too bothersome... have no idea of size as no dentist check for 18 
months!

smiles
sunny 
 
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From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:12:50 PM
Subject: Re: CSdental caries

Oregano powder and Oregano oil (Dr. Clark's stuff).

John


On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

Could you tell me what type of toothpast you use? I have been using a godzilla 
on an abscess issue in addition to a violet ray, global wellness machine, sauna 
and sole. Also from my dentist, he gave me a remedy that I rub on my gums and 
thymus.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



 

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:49:51 -0800
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CSdental caries
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Well -- I can tell you what I did..  At the recommendation of another list 
member here, I bought a Godzilla unit and used it to treat the cavity (which 
is really an infection in the tooth).  That killed the infection.  Then I 
bought a toothpaste designed to remineralize teeth.  I'll be darned if it 
didn't work!  However -- mine was a reallly small cavity, and I don't know if 
that makes a difference.
MA





From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:22:14 PM
Subject: CSdental caries


Hey, all you magic helpers..here's another query from me...

I have a cavity and can't go to the dentist.  Is there anything I can do and 
might CS help?  I thought I was helping by spraying store bought cs [which I 
mixed with oil of oregano in the bottle and probably destroyed the silver???] 
into my cavity... 

much appreciated and think that's all for now...
smiles
sunny x
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Re: CSppm

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks Dee, I am sitting here with the generator going... and spraying my teeth 
intermittently with oil of oregano solution... I just can't stress how 
important lists like these are... and of course, as someone said, don't rush 
off and do stuff if it doesn't feel right... but as I already liked the idea of 
oregano.. that's great.. to have ratification..

I just can't wait till I have my CS... a few hours and whoo...

thanks to all who helped... I got a silvonic one in the end.. finances dictated 
that the 219 for the silvergen was just beyond me.. and that said, I feel 
abundant in many other ways...

with love and thanks to all who responded to all my queries
sunny x



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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:21:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm

It doesn't really matter sunny, they will all work.  If you have something 
badly wrong the higher ppm might work better, but this is not an absolute.  You 
wouldn't want it higher than 30ppm except for short term use maybe. It doesn't 
seem to be something that is absolutely controllable either. dee 


On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:24, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

Well, it wasn't the last...

Please can someone explain all the complexities around ppm. I am worn out with 
reasearching and clicking and thought someone here must just know it...

I can set my generator from 5ppm to 20ppm.. What is the difference and when 
would I want to use 5 or 20?

thanks
sunny 
 



  

Re: CSppm

2010-01-22 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Silvonic is both electricity and battery operated.  I have no idea how good it 
is, it just seemed to do what I wanted for my budget

http://www.elixa.com/silver/Silvonic.htm

smiles
sunny x
 
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From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 5:48:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm


Is the silvonic electric or battery operated? Would you send a link on this 
please? 

- Original Message - 
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm


Thanks Dee, I am sitting here with the generator going... and spraying my 
teeth intermittently with oil of oregano solution... I just can't stress how 
important lists like these are... and of course, as someone said, don't rush 
off and do stuff if it doesn't feel right... but as I already liked the idea 
of oregano.. that's great.. to have ratification..

I just can't wait till I have my CS... a few hours and whoo...

thanks to all who helped... I got a silvonic one in the end.. finances 
dictated that the 219 for the silvergen was just beyond me.. and that said, I 
feel abundant in many other ways...

with love and thanks to all who responded to all my queries
sunny x



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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:21:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm

It doesn't really matter sunny, they will all work.  If you have something 
badly wrong the higher ppm might work better, but this is not an absolute.  
You wouldn't want it higher than 30ppm except for short term use maybe. It 
doesn't seem to be something that is absolutely controllable either. dee 


On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:24, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

Well, it wasn't the last...

Please can someone explain all the complexities around ppm. I am worn out 
with reasearching and clicking and thought someone here must just know 
it...

I can set my generator from 5ppm to 20ppm.. What is the difference and when 
would I want to use 5 or 20?

thanks
sunny 
 




  

CSHerbal formula for smokers

2010-01-14 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
A friend sent this out as a herbal mix to smoke in place of tobacco... you 
might want to pass it on to smoking friends who want to quit..

Smoke in place of tobacco products, in either a pipe or rolled with rolling 
papers. It is pleasantly fragrant while burning. Alternatively, brew as you 
would customarily prepare any herbal tea and enjoy ... it is pleasantly 
flavorful.


* * * * *

Herbal smoking tobacco

Blend equal parts of the following herbs, then store in an airtight glass jar:

Mullein leaf - helps reduce lung inflammation

Damaina - Used for thousands of years in Latin American cultures 
ritualistically as a se x ual stimulant. However, Damaina also affects the 
nervous system, acting as an anti-depressant, soothing anxiety, nervousness and 
mild depression, thus, promoting a general feeling of well-being.

Coltsfoot - cough suppressant

Red Clover - Gives the mix body  a pleasant taste.

Wild Lettuce - The plant is commonly found in southern parts of Europe and the 
Caucasus. The history of Wild Lettuce can be traced way back to the ancient 
Egyptians. The Egyptian god of fertility, Min, is closely tied to the plant and 
he is often depicted holding a rosette of Lactuca Serriola. Many studies of the 
medicinal qualities of Wild Lettuce have been made. Several chemicals which 
constitute a mild sedative and cough suppressant can be found in the wild 
Lactuca species. The two main chemicals are Lactucopicrin and Lactucin.

Ginseng Leaf - acts on nervous system to promote a general feeling of well 
being.
 
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CSA few more questions about CS production

2010-01-14 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey all you health seekers,

I've got a few questions about silver before I buy my machine.. as I'm gonna 
get all the associated 'stuff' as well..

1.  STORAGE I'm thinking I should store in glass.  I just washed out a nice 
apple juice glass bottle with a handle and thought should the glass be dark, or 
can I use clear glass with a covering like tinfoil or black paper round the 
outside to keep out the light?

2.  SILVER GEN AND THE JAR TO USE UNDERNEATH IT The silver gen will apparently 
output the CS into any jar?   Any recommendations - like mason jars?  I'm 
wondering about the sterility of glasses. I don't have a dishwasher.  Is it 
important what I wash my glasses in and if so what do you recommend.

3.  SILVER DOSAGE BOTTLES  I want to make this to keep us health and to give 
away to women's groups with a view to selling it at half the price of the 
cheapest colloidal on the market or exchanging it for other commodities like 
honey, food etc. 

What kind of bottles would you recommend for this? Any ideas where to get them 
and a source of labels ?  I can research this but if you have something just 
there and can paste it.. that would save more time.  

 I use MMS right now and the place we buy from sells it in plastic blue bottles 
plus a blue plastic bottle for the citric acid mix.    I bought some silver a 
while back at wholefood, silvergenesis, and that was in a blue plastic 
bottle.   

Is plastic bad in all cases ?  should I seek out glass bottles for portioning 
it out.

4. DOSAGE - I want to use silver as a regular daily item in our intake.  Is 
this OK? My husband made me laugh saying we might drink a pint of it a day. I 
don't think so.  Is there any recommended amount that you'd recommend as a 
daily dosage [assuming we're not plagued by a specific ailment in which case I 
know you all have lots of ideas on how to use silver that way] 

5. WHERE TO BUY Any leads on where to find good bottles, low cost?  I also want 
spray bottles, so that I can spray my gums.

6. SILVER TESTING METERS  I hear you all talk about ppm and associated things.. 
and meters for testing silver. I'd like to do this and be able to say my silver 
is of x consistency.   Anyone recommend any good [low cost] meters.

Gosh whatalota questions... so thanks for any suggestions...
I'm excited about this new venture in our lives.. preparing ourselves to 
maintain wellness ..

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Re: CSA few more questions about CS production

2010-01-14 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks so it's new production and storage jars..OK.. I actually googled 
'vwaals' then realized it was vessls' fingers one key over... ha ha

 
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From: TREM t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 4:12:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more questions about CS production


Sunny,
 
#2   NEVER wash the production  or storage vessels with liquid soap or 
detergent.  They contain surfactant which is very difficult to remove.  Rinse 
with hot tap water.  Do NOT use any vessel that has contained acidic items such 
as pickles or tomatoes.  The acid is very hard to remove.  Use new vwaawls.
 
I hope this helps you.
 
Best regards,
 
Trem Williams
customer_serv...@silvergen.com
www.silvergen.com
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: CSA few more questions about CS production


Hey all you health seekers,

I've got a few questions about silver before I buy my machine.. as I'm gonna 
get all the associated 'stuff' as well.

1.  STORAGE I'm thinking I should store in glass.  I just washed out a nice 
apple juice glass bottle with a handle and thought should the glass be dark, 
or can I use clear glass with a covering like tinfoil or black paper round the 
outside to keep out the light?

2.  SILVER GEN AND THE JAR TO USE UNDERNEATH IT The silver gen will apparently 
output the CS into any jar?   Any recommendations - like mason jars?  I'm 
wondering about the sterility of glasses. I don't have a dishwasher.  Is it 
important what I wash my glasses in and if so what do you recommend.

3.  SILVER DOSAGE BOTTLES  I want to make this to keep us health and to give 
away to women's groups with a view to selling it at half the price of the 
cheapest colloidal on the market or exchanging it for other commodities like 
honey, food etc. 

What kind of bottles would you recommend for this? Any ideas where to get them 
and a source of labels ?  I can research this but if you have something just 
there and can paste it.. that would save more time.  

 I use MMS right now and the place we buy from sells it in plastic blue 
bottles plus a blue plastic bottle for the citric acid mix.    I bought some 
silver a while back at wholefood, silvergenesis, and that was in a blue 
plastic bottle.   

Is plastic bad in all cases ?  should I seek out glass bottles for portioning 
it out.

4. DOSAGE - I want to use silver as a regular daily item in our intake.  Is 
this OK? My husband made me laugh saying we might drink a pint of it a day. I 
don't think so.  Is there any recommended amount that you'd recommend as a 
daily dosage [assuming we're not plagued by a specific ailment in which case I 
know you all have lots of ideas on how to use silver that way] 

5. WHERE TO BUY Any leads on where to find good bottles, low cost?  I also 
want spray bottles, so that I can spray my gums.

6. SILVER TESTING METERS  I hear you all talk about ppm and associated 
things.. and meters for testing silver. I'd like to do this and be able to say 
my silver is of x consistency.   Anyone recommend any good [low cost] meters.

Gosh whatalota questions... so thanks for any suggestions...
I'm excited about this new venture in our lives.. preparing ourselves to 
maintain wellness ..

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Re: CSstorage question

2010-01-13 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
My goodness Ive been lovingly spraying my dark blue plastic contained silver 
[the one I added oil of oregano to] onto my gums for a few months, thinking it 
would help my teeth.. hmmm better get making my own pronto..


 
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From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 6:13:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSstorage question

Plastic draws the silver to the sides of the plastic bottle..  If used for your 
horses (or humans) and don't store in glass, use as quickly as possible.  Amber 
bottles, I feel are best, and stored in a dark cabinet away fron light and the 
sun and your CSW can last a long, long time.

John


On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Teresa Jessee tjes...@dishmail.net wrote:

I am new to silver making.  I bought a machine from Utopia.  The lady there 
told me I could store my silver in a plastic bottle.  But I have read here that 
it needs to be stored in glass.  Would it be OK to store in plastic just long 
enough to collect a half gallon to use to soak my horse's feet?  Should I throw 
away the half gallon I have stored in plastic for the last month?
TIA,
Teresa



  

Re: CSwattage

2010-01-12 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks folks for your response.  I have been pursuing this with silver gen too.

I asked a rather vague question about power and they wrote me saying this in 
response

Thanks for your inquiry.  The SG6 Auto works on 120 VAC and uses 2 watts of 
power.
 
I wrote back asking this.
Hi, thanks andI have more questions.;-)

Simple stuff that I can't quite fathom out from the site and I'm on the edge of 
buying the silver gen v all others, but can't without this basic information.

How much colloidal silver can the silvergen produce automatically and how much 
time that takes?  

Is the 2 watts the amount of electrical energy the silver gen consumes
to produce this 'automatic amount'.

i.e. if the silver gen can be set up and left to produce - what's the max 
amount it can produce before it has to be set up again.  is it a quart,a gallon 
or what?

how long does it take to produce that maximum amount?

Our Rv has a DC system.  Can I plug the silver gen into that and do I need a 
converter if we're using that system?

If we don't need a converter, would I be able to use the system on a regular 
energy grid without a converter?  Not sure how all this works as you can see so 
am repeating myself to hopefully make my info needs clear.

I appreciate your patience.  I am downsizing considerably to living in an Rv, 
with perhaps a 100 watt solar panel as our source of energy, wired into the RV 
DC systems so that we can use laptop, silver generator etc.
 

 
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:15:18 AM
Subject: Re: CSwattage

A silver generator that makes about 8 ounces an hour will consume about 0.1 
watt.

Marshall

Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:
 Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use.  We are 
 moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. 
 Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities.  We getting a solar 
 panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or 
 so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if 
 anyone has any idea..?  Before I go searching the internet...
  thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with 
love
 sunny
  
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Re: CSVery interesting, and true

2010-01-12 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Off topic and yet very interesting.  I heard a rumor from a friend of a friend 
who worked for Derren Brown.  He explained to me how through a system of tiny 
hidden optical cameras, and earphone communication and signals, Derren Brown 
can appear to be a magician.

I also studied the basis of Derren Brown's skill - something called Neuro 
Linguistic programming. I studied with the guy who created it.

Much of what I learned and haven't always put into action, is that the mind has 
the ability to control the physical from temperature reduction to healing.. yet 
it requires a serious re-programming of habitual neuralapathways.

So in answer to your question about how come people can't.. well some of them 
just can't.. we are not all equal in our abilities.. Our whole approach is the 
result of a mingling of parental, religious, societal waves of belief that have 
swept over us... and direct what data we sort for and how we filter the data 
that comes in.

I think part of this whole healing thing is belief. Every thought we have 
affects our physical..emotions are literally energy shifts caused by 
physiological change in our bodies caused by thoughts that lead us to make 
associations.. and stir up the automatic instincts, fight, flight, freeze and a 
moving towards what works or moving away from a problem..

So whilst CS is a wonderful product because I beleive in it, it might be that 
for osmeone else, itwill have no effect because their physical cellular 
structure is being affected by their thoughts... 

Let us be patient with those who do not get as much as we do, just as I hope 
that you all will be patient with me when I am naive and unknowing.. and hold 
the space for all of us to emerge.. 

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From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:26:33 AM
Subject: Re: CSVery interesting, and true

I first read about the Milgrem experiment about seven years ago, and it sent 
chills down my spine. There's no way I would have or with any conscience could 
have continued to shock people like that no matter who was telling me it was 
OK. That comes right down to a person's character and using their own mind. The 
results of that experiment still gives me chills. What is wrong with people 
that they can't/won't or don't use their own brains?

Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be 
millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Ode Coyote wrote:
  If you ever get a chance to watch Derren Brown in action, do it and doubt 
your senses [Mind Control with Derren Brown]
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE
 http://www.youtube.com/user/philosophyblackbelt#p/a/f/0/vBPG_OBgTWg
 
 There are those that STUDY this stuff and most that absolutely believe such 
 things are impossible [called suckers ]
 But you can be fooled even when you know you are being fooled.
 
 Ode
 
 At 06:15 AM 1/11/2010 -0600, you wrote:
 I've observed this on every group I've ever been in online and elsewhere. 
 This is one of the few lists I've seen where people really freely discuss 
 and disagree. I really appreciate this group:) Even when we don't agree:D 
 Kudos to all of you for being independent thinkers:)
 
 
 This is a truly amazing thing to watch. And it's short, only five minutes or 
 so. Man they'd have had problems with their experiment if it was me. OMG, 
 I'd have said what I thought and stood by it come hell or high water. Maybe 
 that's the reason I've never been chosen for jury duty, LOL. I've always 
 been the non conformist, sigh.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJAfeature=player_embedded
 
 Perhaps this is why so many people won't try anything outside of traditional 
 medicine, including CS. Truly sheeple. Follow the herd, don't stand out. 
 Crowd mentality. Makes me want to gack really. It gives me the willies.
 
 
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Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries

2010-01-12 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
John I admire your attention to health.  And I'm wondering two thing.. how much 
must it cost to take all these supplements and if we dont have those kind of 
funds, where can we obtain this naturally. Could it be by growing a forest 
garden?

I'm serious here... when I had money I'd buy all this stuff.. and start a 
regime.. but to be naturally healthy these days it appears one has to also have 
a lot of 'money-energy'.  No griping here, I chose a life of simplicity to 
divest myself.. but wellness is paramount.

Can anyone share how we can get these nutrients more naturally.. for 
example, berries from a bush and food that is readily available locally? That 
would be a challenge...

and thanks to you all for your astounding knowledge sharing..
with love
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:52:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries

Crumbs John, its amazing you have time to teach in between taking all that 
lol!  dee

On 12 Jan 2010, at 10:41, John E. Stevens wrote:

 Hi, Simeon:
 
 I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive 
 Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer.  i eat 
 about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg  of Vit C with each 
 of those two meals.
 Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, 
 health history, family health history - it's not the one program for 
 everyone.  I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E 
 (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg 
 resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - 
 folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, 
 prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, 
 magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin 
 K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a 
 while), minerals, etc.,  I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and 
 natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics.  Pure Spring water 
 is another vitamin...
 I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this 
 morning.  
 Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it 
 was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I 
 attribute this change to.  Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... 
 Thank you God...
 
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CSA question

2010-01-12 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
About 8 months ago I bought a large bottle of colloidal silver.   When it was 
halfway done I decided to add some oil of oregano to the mix. I've been using 
it ever since [spraying it on my gums because I did have some dental problems 
and didn't want them to recur] and now am beginning to think that I've ruined 
the silver.  ;-)

Is this the case...?   

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CSwattage

2010-01-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use.  We are 
moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using 
MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities.  We getting a solar panel of 
100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would 
like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any 
idea..?   Before I go searching the internet... 

thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here... 
with love
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Re: CSwattage

2010-01-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Is that 2 watts an hour?   sounds great!
 
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From: TREM t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSwattage


2 WATTS
 
Trem
www.silvergen.com
 
- Original Message - 
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: CSwattage


Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use.  We are 
moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using 
MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities.  We getting a solar panel of 
100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would 
like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any 
idea..?   Before I go searching the internet... 

thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. 
with love
sunny
 
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CSRe:Nebulizers

2010-01-02 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hi there,

I am interested in taking baking soda with a nebulizer. I have done a few 
searches on the net and am not clear on how nebulizers work.  One site said 
that you needed a compressor as well as a nebulizer.   Others, which offer 
steam nebulizers seem pretty clear, but are expensive and electrically powered. 

I am looking for a nebulizer that is manually powered [if such a thing exists] 
that I can fill with liquid and inhale into my lungs. I have used a ventolin 
inhaler for asthmatic reactions.  

thanks for all your valuable input.. opening my eyes even wider
with love
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Re: CS HAPPY NEW YEAR

2009-12-31 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey Happy and Wondrous 2010 to you all. Thanks for the huge amount of 
fascinating information... this list is a goldmine and thanks Mike for holding 
the space...

big smiles 
sunny
 
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From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 11:33:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS HAPPY NEW YEAR

Yeah,

Happy New Year to everyone, and may everyone stay healthy or find your way to 
happiness and health in the new year.


Annie

If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be 
millionaires.


Carol Ann wrote:
 
 Happy New Year, Everyone.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE_W_dSxa0I
 
 Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
 
 
      
 


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Re: CSMushroom Related Post...Lost in Space

2009-12-18 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Brooks it seems to me that you are somewhat of a sage and a gift to this list.  
I appreciate your effort at having taken the time to compose the mushroom 
information.. and I do hope that soon, you will be able to repost it... I 
for one was really excited about this... so be well and I shall pray for your 
re-energizing...and offering of this gift to the world..

with blessings
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From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; mdev...@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:00:55 AM
Subject: Re: CSMushroom Related Post...Lost in Space


Maybe it was too long but is still recoverable from Mike's queue?
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri Dec 18 01:29:10 2009
Subject: CSMushroom Related Post...Lost in Space


   Using my other mailer, I submitted a rather lengthy
post on effects and uses of six of the most widely-used medical
mushrooms and their extracts.  Unfortunately the post failed to come
through.and I rarely retain a draft copy---of any of my emails.
Therefore, it was lost.evidently.  It was somewhat lengthy and I
have only limited time
for such communications.  It saddens me that it, evidently, was lost..
 At present, I am not up to recomposing it.
Maybe in a few days I will regain the impetus and mental energy to
submit a more brief, but sufficient,  message..
containing the essentials of my intent.   I noticed that the url I
referenced (using my other mailer) for the section on ALA did come
through.
   Longevity challenges mental acuity (at least in my case).
    Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley.


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Re: CSCS and Anthrax and Homeland Security

2009-12-17 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hi all, I wrote to SilverGen telling them about the reported motor challenges 
and they said that the motors they used before did have problems but they're 
using new motors now..

I'm about to buy... am satisfied it will be a good purchase...Here's to making 
lots of CS and passing it on..
Thanks for the feedback from all..

big smiles and winter wellness to you all
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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 5:55:54 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS and Anthrax and Homeland Security



  Keep the motor bearing coated with a glob of vasoline so water vapor can't 
get up in there and corrode it

Ode


At 12:50 PM 12/15/2009 -0700, you wrote:
 I've used the Silvergen for several years and like its simplicity and the 
 quality of the EIS it produces.  The only problem I've had (twice) was that 
 the stirring motor froze and I had to have it replaced.
 
  Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
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Re: CSDoes CS work?

2009-12-16 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Thanks folks...that's purrfect... ;) sunny
 
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From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:00:49 PM
Subject: CSDoes CS work?

My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show 
how it dispels pathogens'.

'They' have already done that hundreds of times...

http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

Theres a mountain of genuine scientific evidence to prove that silver kills 
germs in lab tests.  No credible researcher disputes that.  Even 'Quackwatch', 
the ultimate anti-cs site, does not dispute that it works in-vitro (test 
tubes). Unfortunately no clinical human trials have been conducted to prove 
that it works in real life. There are a number of reasons for this including 
the fact that human trials cost millions of dollars.

You'll have to settle for testimonies..,
http://www.csfacts.com/pages/for.html

David






 
 
 From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
 Date: 16 December 2009 12:50:10 PM
 To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSFw: Does CS work?
 
 
 
 
 
 My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just asked 
 me... does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS, I did get rid of 
 the infection and he did notice that when he was taking it and wearing snake 
 boots all day his feet stopped smelling and beyond that we only have other 
 people's personal testimonials.
 
 I've taken CS only by spraying it in my mouth.. for my teeth.  I can't say 
 I've used it to deal with some infection or other... I'm into taking 
 something and thinking about prevention.
 
 Jim Humble says of MMS that he's used it loads of times and tried it out a 
 lot on himself... but he doesn't have the money to research it so there's no 
 'scientific' evidence as such.
 
 My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show 
 how it dispels pathogens'.
 
 Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to where 
 scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed and shown some 
 kind of result against a control group?
 
 I personally think that human testimonial is great.. but often we take a 
 number of things together when we're pursuing the alternative route... so it 
 could be difficult to know what's working.
 
 Asking these questions is merely anticipating the kind of questions people 
 might well ask when we talk to them of CS.
 
 I had this sense that there are some highly knowledgeable people on this list 
 including some who have done their own tests or know about those that have 
 been done.. As it's not a FDA approved item, I don't expect that kind of 
 research.. we don't have that luxury with these kind of remedies...and anyway 
 the FDA ratifies things that poison us!
 
 It's like my neighbors father who was in and out of hospital visits for 
 diarrhoea and then finally got fed up and went home, remembered all his stuff 
 about home remedies, fell out of the allopathic trance, went up in his forest 
 and cut some red oak bark.. took it in water for four days and got rid of 
 something modernmedicine couldn't.  Hardly a scientific test, but I'd surely 
 try it if I had something similar..
 
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Re: CSCS and Anthrax and Homeland Security

2009-12-15 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Interesting.  I've heard from the Jim Humble book that MMS is very effective 
against anthrax.  And sadly, there's not much funding for the kind of 
scientific research the gov has imposed on 'healing' so much so that only the 
drg companies can afford it.  What a vicious circle.

It wouldn't surprize me if hs had used it.. but it probably wouldn't be out 
there much, because there is another agenda when it comes to our healing and it 
doesn't involve promoting things that don't put lots of pennies in certain 
pockets.  

What I believe really matters is that we find our own healing and wellness 
products and continue to use them and to share them with others as best we 
can.  I salute the owner of this list for not getting uppity about peole 
discussing other wellness products. I sense that people who come to a list like 
this are already sorting for alternative wellness and coming across lots of 
really cool things..

I love MMS and CS for the very fact that they are both harmless or appear to 
be.   I've taken MMS for a year regularly, stopped for a while and started to 
redose myself weekly or twice weekly in the winter season.   When I feel a bit 
under I take some.   I got rid of a urinary infection that would have been a 
ripe case for antibiotics and I did it in a week with 10 drops of MMS a day and 
sometimes an extra 5 a day.   

with love and smiles
sunny
PS We're up for buying our sliver generator in a day or two..and the silver gen 
sounds great... 
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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 5:35:29 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS and Anthrax and Homeland Security



  I don't recall HLS doing that [being fond of using Chlorine Dioxide MMS to 
decontaminate offices], but there was some flap about American Biotech having 
an Army contract.

ode


At 10:48 PM 12/13/2009 -0600, you wrote:
 Do I remember someone reporting that Homeland Security had purchased CS 
 because of its effectiveness on anthrax?  Better than what they had?  I think 
 they bought it from a company?
 
 Thanks,
 SS


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CSFw: Does CS work?

2009-12-15 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny


 
My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just asked me... 
does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS, I did get rid of the 
infection and he did notice that when he was taking it and wearing snake boots 
all day his feet stopped smelling and beyond that we only have other 
people's personal testimonials.

I've taken CS only by spraying it in my mouth.. for my teeth.  I can't say I've 
used it to deal with some infection or other... I'm into taking something and 
thinking about prevention.

Jim Humble says of MMS that he's used it loads of times and tried it out a lot 
on himself... but he doesn't have the money to research it so there's no 
'scientific' evidence as such.

My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show how 
it dispels pathogens'.  

Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to where 
scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed and shown some kind 
of result against a control group?

I personally think that human testimonial is great.. but often we take a number 
of things together when we're pursuing the alternative route... so it could be 
difficult to know what's working.

Asking these questions is merely anticipating the kind of questions 
people might well ask when we talk to them of CS.

I had this sense that there are some highly knowledgeable people on this list 
including some who have done their own tests or know about those that have been 
done.. As it's not a FDA approved item, I don't expect that kind of research.. 
we don't have that luxury with these kind of remedies...and anyway the FDA 
ratifies things that poison us!

It's like my neighbors father who was in and out of hospital visits for 
diarrhoea and then finally got fed up and went home, remembered all his stuff 
about home remedies, fell out of the allopathic trance, went up in his forest 
and cut some red oak bark.. took it in water for four days and got rid of 
something modernmedicine couldn't.  Hardly a scientific test, but I'd surely 
try it if I had something similar..

smiles
sunny
 
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Re: CSexpert witness medicolegal reports

2009-12-06 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal 
silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis Today, 
for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it for my gum 
problems.  Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more... 

We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've gotten 
really confused with all the conflicting information around.    I'm reading 
material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is, about the 
difference between ionic silver v real colloidal, how electrolysis isn't the 
best way to make it [our machine does not use Electrolysis' is the marketing 
ploy],  how you have to use distilled water from a proper distiller rather than 
buying it in the store in a bottle.   How if the instructions tell you you must 
use a blue or brown bottle then the silver isn't real colloidal.   How ionic 
silver becomes silver chloride and doesn't last in the body.  

Most of the manufacturers of silver generators have marketing speak that says 
'don't believe what other people tell you ' and many of them are offering 
conflicting data, most of which is so technical that I can't get my head round 
it. 

I feel like one of those cartoon characters with lots of question and 
exclamation marks going round in circles!!! ;-)

So, I'm thinking that there are probably people on this list who have are 
making and have taken homemade CS for various ailments and it has worked.  So, 
if that's you, I'd love to hear about what generator you're using and why you 
recommend it.   Please help deconfuse us...

We want to make colloidal silver in bulk to give away to friends and family and 
also to market through physical groups, meeting people, talking about it..

We don't have healthcare and are on a very limited income so we're passionate 
about finding the right combination of low cost health solutions that will keep 
us in wellness...and thinking that this passion will eventually provide an 
income for us...

Currently we use MMS [recommended by the executive director of a VA 
hospital!] which we can also make at home very cheaply but haven't yet... 
and colloidal silver as I described above

My husband has had problems with his digestive system, ulcers at age 7, 
diverticulosis, and IBS at times of stress. I have respiratory weakness... I am 
beginning to see some kind of genetic propensity for specific types of 
ill-health, and we want to prevent these before they happen.

All advice welcome... but specifically, we need some input on CS and CS 
generators...

big smiles 
sunny

 
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From: kmartjo...@aol.com kmartjo...@aol.com
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Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 12:36:33 AM
Subject: CSexpert witness medicolegal reports





 
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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 12:53 pm
Subject: CSexpert witness medicolegal reports


Anyone know a medical ENT doctor  or expert witness who can prepare documents 
for mold exposure...thanks to cs I recovered. I was exposed to 9 kind of 
mold...was so sick I didn't care if I died. one was aspergillos















 











  
 



  

Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

2009-12-06 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey Dan and The Clayton Family,  Thank you for responding to my plea and for 
your kind sharing of information.

We've just set up a wellness site [purchased the domain name!] trying to find 
something with wellness in it.   The web world is an interesting metaphor for 
what's going on today.  Some organization or groups of people have bought up 
virtually every great site name with wellness in it, and used them as directory 
sites with no passion or caring about wellness at all. 

I said to my husband it's as if we went into the National Forest and cut ALL 
the deadwood in our area, and then sold it to people for profit. 

It reminds me of the whole pharma situation, where big congloms and others have 
become the arbiters of our healthcare... unless of course

Like many of us here on this list, we are determined and dedicated to and 
passionate about finding alternative healthcare that is right for us. 
Whether you use MMS or turmeric or green drinks or CS or combinations of that 
and all the amazing supplements out there, when you seek to take your own 
healthcare into your hands, you become empowered and you free yourself... and 
like that we carve a path for others to find their own freedom path 
to non-allopathic, wellness promoting rather than sympton curing, health 
management.

I see that this list touches on many different areas of wellness and I LOVE 
it... so glad I found it... as a result of my pursuit of silver truth!

big smiles
sunny and pierre
 
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From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:00:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

The SilverPuppy is a fine unit for individuals or a family, but if you
want to make more volume so as to give to friends or sell, etc, you
will soon be very frustrated at the smaller volumes you are making.
You should consider a unit that makes larger volumes.

See, for instance:

http://www.silvergen.com/informat.htm

Beware of buying a unit that is just batteries, a resistor, and some
electrodes, unless it is priced appropriately.  This kind of system
probably wouldn't be suitable for making CS for sale...

Dan



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
 Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org
 and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs
 I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I
 would buy the silverpuppy.
 I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start,
 and I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I
 found the one that is reliably pure for my area.
 The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a
 mix of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best,
 and is the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising
 claims made that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any
 element, so the arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.
 Have fun reading!
 Kathryn
 On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

 Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal
 silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis
 Today, for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it
 for my gum problems.  Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more...

 We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've
 gotten really confused with all the conflicting information around.    I'm
 reading material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is,
 about the differen



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Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

2009-12-06 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Distilled Water

So, Kathryn, you're saying that you tested a lot of distilled water for your 
area... that's interesting. Did you buy different brands?I was thinking 
that if I buy distilled water at Walmart or Ingles that the same brand name 
would all be consistent. Is there a difference? Do different areas have 
different types of distilled water under a big brand name?

We are up for spending about $200 on a good heavy duty producer of CS.  We see 
it as an investment. And how amazing to be able to give away good samples of a 
product without having to spend the earth.   This allows us as a new business 
to do what most businesses want to do... make generous gestures and allow 
people to prove for themselves that things work.

Wellness Clubs

We're planning to create local wellness clubs, where women get together and 
discuss, with facilitation, how they can be more healthier at grassroots 
starting with very basic adjustments.  Of course being a women's group we can 
include all kinds of topics that women love to get together and discuss from 
weight loss [which is all about vanity and appearance to most, but is really 
about HEALTH] to remembering and documenting old wives memories and family held 
homespun cures

We live in the South in a rural location where people aren't rich and biscuits 
and gravy and heavy duty fried chicken  are popular local food.   This is also 
however a place where people know how to GROW and it's also a place where the 
women have control over family food mostly and where people have to prepare 
their own food] 

We want to introduce food ideas for slowly adding more raw, healthier, low 
cost, alternatives and then ease in the idea of supplements and materials that 
we like and that aren't going to bust the bank.  Perhaps even expanding into 
using group power to purchase organic goods in bulk... who knows.. but it feels 
right..

I think everyone is seeking wellness and that many many more people are turning 
to alternative methods, and that 'many more' is increasing exponentially.  

We are on a financial edge right now, renting and living on savings as we 
evolve our message and businesses, and for us staying well is paramount.  

A friend of ours who lives on social security had her widow benefits 
stopped from GM, no more dental, no more prescriptions, no more nothing..so 
she's been forced to find alternative ways... like using apple cider vinegar in 
a glass of water for reflux rather than Prilosec at $20 or using CS instead of 
paying $100 plus for antiboitics.  

Antibiotics and Flu!
Another thing I've noticed is that loads of people we know are getting 
antibiotics for flu.  Flu is viral, antibiotics don't cure flu do they? I sense 
and also pray that there are more doctors emerging like my friend at the VA 
hospital, who are combining allopathic medicine with alternatives that work 
better in certain cases.    She used MMS to cure a staff infection that nothing 
else could.    

Archives?
Finallydoes this list have an archive?   I got the impression it's not web 
based, just email.. so, as I don't know what's been discussed before, please 
forgive me if I'm bringing up topics that have already been addressed over the 
time you've all been around... 

More silver generator recommendations please...

thank you all again and in anticipation of more personal recommendations for 
specific silver generators and periphery necessities - water, testers, 
containers, etc..

with love and blessings
sunny
 
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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 8:56:07 AM
Subject: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org  

and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs

I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I 
would buy the silverpuppy.

I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start, and 
I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I found the 
one that is reliably pure for my area.

The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a mix 
of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best, and is 
the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising claims made 
that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any element, so the 
arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.

Have fun reading!

Kathryn


On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal 
silver bought