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-- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- Hi MA, here are a couple of the links I read when I first responded to your mail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoplasmosis Histoplasmosis, also known as Darling's disease,[1] is a disease caused by the fungus Histoplasma capsulatum. Its symptoms vary greatly, but the disease primarily affects the lungs. Occasionally, other organs are affectedthis form of the disease is called disseminated histoplasmosis, and it can be fatal if untreated. Hi Kathryn. Yes -- thank you -- I read the same information on the internet that you did regarding Histoplasmosis. My point was: any of the information that I read does NOT tell you that this can cause breathing difficulty. In fact, they specifically say that Histoplasmosis is generally without symptoms. And since my husband's doctor did not tell him that Histoplasmosis can cause breathing difficulty, and DID tell him that his problem is that his lungs are 75 years old, then we are left to wonder what's really wrong and what to do about it. I'm pursuing the information offered by some of the members of this list, and appreciate everyone who took the time to offer some thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again. MA
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His personal email is butcho...@gmail.commailto:butcho...@gmail.com (owner of Anatolian Treasures) and you can address the other e-mails to: essentialo...@qcol.net .. or to anatoliantreasu...@qcol.netmailto:anatoliantreasu...@qcol.net Hope this helps, Dianne - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.netmailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CSLung trouble . Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. OK -- I was unable to find Anatolian Treasures. MA
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marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- I had histoplasmosis when I was 7 years old. Took over a year to get over it. It responds very very well to nebulized CS from what I understand. Addition of some DMSO would most likely make it even better. Wish we had had CS when I had it, would have probably gotten rid of it in less than a week, and not missed a year of school. Anyway, it definitely causes one to have trouble breathing. I could hardly do anything without getting out of breath, and clammy skinned. The only lasting effect is that any time I get an X-Ray they think I have TB from the calcium deposits. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I must say I agree 100% with this. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: I can't believe they are not treating him for this- it is a fungal lung disease Are the doctors actually crazy??? If they prescribed ANY kind of steroid breathing inhalers, they just made him 100 % WORSE Steroids are KNOWN for causing fungal infections! And if you already have a fungal infection, the steroids can kill you. Seriously, these people sound incompetent. I might be tempted to call my lawyer, and mail them a tidy little letter from him. Other wise, you are correct about needing to take matters into your own hands, it can save his life. kathryn On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:13 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall said: I had histoplasmosis when I was 7 years old. Took over a year to get over it. It responds very very well to nebulized CS from what I understand. Addition of some DMSO would most likely make it even better. Wish we had had CS when I had it, would have probably gotten rid of it in less than a week, and not missed a year of school. Anyway, it definitely causes one to have trouble breathing. I could hardly do anything without getting out of breath, and clammy skinned. The only lasting effect is that any time I get an X-Ray they think I have TB from the calcium deposits. Thanks Marshall -- I appreciate the input. I'm printing out all the replies to this thread -- except for one -- and am pursuing the various links that people have provided. You're the first person to mention that Histoplasmosis causes trouble breathing -- that's something that I would have expected the doctors to know and to tell him. Thanks again. MA
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Hi MA, here are a couple of the links I read when I first responded to your mail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoplasmosis Histoplasmosis, also known as Darling's disease,[1] is a disease caused by the fungus Histoplasma capsulatum. Its symptoms vary greatly, but the disease primarily affects the lungs. Occasionally, other organs are affected—this form of the disease is called disseminated histoplasmosis, and it can be fatal if untreated. There are other lung diseases that one can catch from bird or bat droppings. Any lung disease will make it hard to breathe. It is too bad that many drs do not do the job of educating patients. But now that we have the internet, we can do a great deal of it on our own. Some drs hate that, but others encourage it. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:19 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Marshall said: I had histoplasmosis when I was 7 years old. Took over a year to get over it. It responds very very well to nebulized CS from what I understand. Addition of some DMSO would most likely make it even better. Wish we had had CS when I had it, would have probably gotten rid of it in less than a week, and not missed a year of school. Anyway, it definitely causes one to have trouble breathing. I could hardly do anything without getting out of breath, and clammy skinned. The only lasting effect is that any time I get an X-Ray they think I have TB from the calcium deposits. Thanks Marshall -- I appreciate the input. I'm printing out all the replies to this thread -- except for one -- and am pursuing the various links that people have provided. You're the first person to mention that Histoplasmosis causes trouble breathing -- that's something that I would have expected the doctors to know and to tell him. Thanks again. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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From Saralou: Dr. Basar of Ankara University, Turkey found that oregano oil (origanum vulgare) reversed emphysema in lab rats. If he coughs, it will calm the cough and it will kill pathogens. Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. Hi Saralou -- thanks for the information. Ummm -- Anatolian Treasures is a website? I'll try to find that. If I'm offbase, please let me know. Tracy had a lung purge that will do amazing things for folks with respiratory issues. Let me know if you want it and I'll send it privately. I don't know who Tracy is, but I'd like more information please! Thanks. MA
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. Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. OK -- I was unable to find Anatolian Treasures. MA
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Hi Smitty. Yes -- doctors in the midwest are very cavalier about Histoplasmosis. It's commonplace in the lungs of most of us midwesterners, and doesn't seem to cause a problem for most people. I suspect that's why the pulmonologist (in Nashville) didn't take it too seriously. MA pulmonary fibrosis Histoplasmosis and birds During a chest exam, a doctor looked at some scar tissue on my xray and asked if I was from the midwest. I told him that I grew up in Indiana. He went on to tell me that most people in the midwest, including his mother, had similar conditions and told me it was histoplasmosis. (I wrote down the name) His mother was xrayed and the picture showed cloudiness in both lungs. They treated her for lung cancer before discovering it was histoplasmosis. He said it's from chicken bird manure spores in the air and breathed in by mid-westerners.
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-- Original message from Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com: -- Here's an emphysema recommendation from a health consultant on another list- Serrapeptase is profoundly beneficial. You can go to my site and read up on it a little. http://www.excellentthings.com It clears the lungs of scar tissue and inflammation rather quickly and I have yet to have one person with emphysema who was not greatly helped with it. Thanks for that information -- I will follow up on it. MA
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-- Original message from Smitty papad...@gmail.com: -- Is histoplasmosis treatable? Antifungal medications are used to treat severe cases of acute histoplasmosis and all cases of chronic and disseminated disease. Mild disease usually resolves without treatment. Past infection results in partial protection against ill effects if reinfected. Hi Smitty. Yes -- I researched Histoplasmosis, and found the same information. I have to think that his doctors believe that he has a mild form because they did not prescribe medications for him, except for the inhalers. That's why I'm trying to find alternative solutions. Thanks for your input. MA
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-- Original message from Dave ddar...@centurytel.net: -- I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. Thanks for your informative post Dave -- I'm following up on that. MA
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- Original message from Heidrun Beer hb...@sgmt.at: -- I would try to find a doctor who is honest with you. Find a lung specialist. Hi Heidrun. Yes -- we've already done that. That's what a pulmonologist is -- a lung specialist. He's received no help from that quarter. We've got to find an alternative treatment plan. Thanks for your thoughts. MA
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-- Original message from cking...@nycap.rr.com: Just about everybody on the list that has been trying MMS for other reasons, have declared easier breathing as a side effect. At least it's cheap and you'd know in a few days. Thanks Chuck. That's worth trying. MA
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Just a note to thank everyone who replied to my post. I appreciate your time and your thoughts. MA
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marmar...@bellsouth.net, on 11/4/2007 12:20 PM, said the following: Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. OK -- I was unable to find Anatolian Treasures. MA Must not have looked very hard... google on anatolian treasures oregano and the very first two hits are: http://www.av-at.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would appreciate it if you made a slight effort to appear less judgmental. Thanks, Dan Simon Jester wrote: marmar...@bellsouth.net, on 11/4/2007 12:20 PM, said the following: Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. OK -- I was unable to find Anatolian Treasures. MA Must not have looked very hard... google on anatolian treasures oregano and the very first two hits are: http://www.av-at.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 11/4/2007, Dan Nave (na...@comcast.net) wrote: I would appreciate it if you made a slight effort to appear less judgmental. And I'd appreciate it if you minded your own business. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs have had plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and stron g individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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Just about everybody on the list that has been trying MMS for other reasons, have declared easier breathing as a side effect. At least it's cheap and you'd know in a few days. Go here, download the free part 1 book. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Read it, get up to speed. Buy ready made product here. http://www.globallight.net/Mms-Miracle-Mineral-Supplement.html There is no MLM involved. Chuck Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed On 11/3/2007 12:13:35 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'D RECOMMEND A THROAT CULTURE FOR FUNGOUS.ESP ASPERGILLOSIS. DR. DAVE _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of marmar...@bellsouth.net Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLung trouble I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:13:35 +, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote in 110320071613.22294.472c9e2f000454e2571622230704929b0a02d2089b9a019c04040a0dbfcacbc89d0e039d0...@att.net: Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs have had plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy an! d stron g individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA I would try to find a doctor who is honest with you. To me it sounds as if he indeed has emphysema (my husband died from it too). But of course I am just guessing. Emphysema is also called COPD. Find a lung specialist. If he is already 75 now and only starting to have the difficulties, he may have some more good years with the right medication and oxygen. Good that he stopped smoking, that probably gave him many years of life! Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at http://www.RecastReality.org -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up there to help in rescue. I worked all day in the dust without any dust mask. My lungs felt heavy for years but I didn't have any breathing troubles at that time as well as being an auto Mechanic with breathing a lot of asbestos from brake work so you see abuse wise I've been there and done that except for smoking which I have never done. I ride a bicycle for exercise and there is a hill on my route that I would get so out of wind I would get dizzy when riding up it almost to the point of falling off the bike. I was also out of breath tying my shoes and when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night I would breath so hard from the exertion that when I got back into bed I thought it would waken my wife. At that point I started taking vitamin C and l-Lysine at 6 grams a day each. On the third day I rode over the hill and didn't notice it was there as far as breathing was concerned. The other breathing problems stopped also. At the same time I took a course of CMO followed by Glucosamine Chondroiten and MSM to rebuild my joints which made it so I didn't have to hold my breath with exertion and exacerbate the breathing problem. I didn't have to groan when arising from my chair or getting up from the floor when working on a car. No intelligence here just my experiences. Dave marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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Hi. I think I would find some way to inhale colloidal silver mist, and a lot of it, and as soon as possible. Maybe you could get some kind of mister or inhaler at the pharmacy and wash out whatever medicine it contains and refill it with colloidal silver, and breathe it in. And someone suggested using a pump spray bottle like a plant mister and spraying the CS directly into the mouth and inhaling deeply through the mouth to get cs droplets into the lungs. Faith G - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: CSLung trouble I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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Hi Dave. Just curious, what made you start taking Vitamin c and l-lysine at 6 grams a day each? That seems like a lot but evidently it helped you. Thanks. Faith G - Original Message - From: Dave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: CSLung trouble I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up there to help in rescue. I worked all day in the dust without any dust mask. My lungs felt heavy for years but I didn't have any breathing troubles at that time as well as being an auto Mechanic with breathing a lot of asbestos from brake work so you see abuse wise I've been there and done that except for smoking which I have never done. I ride a bicycle for exercise and there is a hill on my route that I would get so out of wind I would get dizzy when riding up it almost to the point of falling off the bike. I was also out of breath tying my shoes and when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night I would breath so hard from the exertion that when I got back into bed I thought it would waken my wife. At that point I started taking vitamin C and l-Lysine at 6 grams a day each. On the third day I rode over the hill and didn't notice it was there as far as breathing was concerned. The other breathing problems stopped also. At the same time I took a course of CMO followed by Glucosamine Chondroiten and MSM to rebuild my joints which made it so I didn't have to hold my breath with exertion and exacerbate the breathing problem. I didn't have to groan when arising from my chair or getting up from the floor when working on a car. No intelligence here just my experiences. Dave
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Did this have anything to do with the thyroid? Did you take Iodine along with the other things?? What part of your program do you think helped clean the lungs out of all the asbestos or other stuff? I just feel tired all the time. Started taking Iodine but noticed two hairs on my face so I stopped; figured I was getting too much but will just not swab the skin every day like I was. I do feel that has helped. I take the CS from time to time but not regularly. My house was in the hurricane so may be mold hidden under and above the house but doesn't look like any in here. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: Dave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: CSLung trouble I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up there to help in rescue. I worked all day in the dust without any dust mask. My lungs felt heavy for years but I didn't have any breathing troubles at that time as well as being an auto Mechanic with breathing a lot of asbestos from brake work so you see abuse wise I've been there and done that except for smoking which I have never done. I ride a bicycle for exercise and there is a hill on my route that I would get so out of wind I would get dizzy when riding up it almost to the point of falling off the bike. I was also out of breath tying my shoes and when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night I would breath so hard from the exertion that when I got back into bed I thought it would waken my wife. At that point I started taking vitamin C and l-Lysine at 6 grams a day each. On the third day I rode over the hill and didn't notice it was there as far as breathing was concerned. The other breathing problems stopped also. At the same time I took a course of CMO followed by Glucosamine Chondroiten and MSM to rebuild my joints which made it so I didn't have to hold my breath with exertion and exacerbate the breathing problem. I didn't have to groan when arising from my chair or getting up from the floor when working on a car. No intelligence here just my experiences. Dave marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- Is histoplasmosis treatable? Yes. Antifungal medications are used to treat severe cases of acute histoplasmosis and all cases of chronic and disseminated disease. Mild disease usually resolves without treatment. Past infection results in partial protection against ill effects if reinfected. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Here's an emphysema recommendation from a health consultant on another list- Serrapeptase is profoundly beneficial. You can go to my site and read up on it a little. http://www.excellentthings.com It clears the lungs of scar tissue and inflammation rather quickly and I have yet to have one person with emphysema who was not greatly helped with it. We've also tried oral EDTA along with l-Carnitine and Lysine to help shortness of breath we were experiencing while doing physical exertion and it seemed to help, from www.beyondacenturyonline.com Serrapeptase is available from lots of online health stores. Nancy On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Dave wrote: marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Since when is histoplasmosis not a problem? Working around poultry can give you plenty of lung diseases, too. Their poop has mold that can cause lung diseases, just ask about Parrot fever- when it is found in poultry, they have to kill the whole flock, it is so bad for people. It seems reasonable to assume it is infectious in origin, at least as a working hypothesis. then there are a couple of ways to approach it- support the body with supplements, like mentioned by others, and kill of the infection, by whatever means, nebulizing CS, or whatever. just my 2 cents, Kathryn On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:13 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLung trouble-histoplasmosis
I can't believe they are not treating him for this- it is a fungal lung disease Are the doctors actually crazy??? If they prescribed ANY kind of steroid breathing inhalers, they just made him 100 % WORSE Steroids are KNOWN for causing fungal infections! And if you already have a fungal infection, the steroids can kill you. Seriously, these people sound incompetent. I might be tempted to call my lawyer, and mail them a tidy little letter from him. Other wise, you are correct about needing to take matters into your own hands, it can save his life. kathryn On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:13 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I read the works of Linus Pauling and thought that since I had to do something or check out I would give it a try. Much like everything I do I jumped in with both feet. I went on later to go up o 20 grams but the diarrhea was to much to take so I dropped to 4 grams and have been there for four years now. No more breathing problems! Dave faith gagne wrote: Hi Dave. Just curious, what made you start taking Vitamin c and l-lysine at 6 grams a day each? That seems like a lot but evidently it helped you. Thanks. Faith G - Original Message - *From:* Dave mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:53 PM *Subject:* Re: CSLung trouble I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up there to help in rescue. I worked all day in the dust without any dust mask. My lungs felt heavy for years but I didn't have any breathing troubles at that time as well as being an auto Mechanic with breathing a lot of asbestos from brake work so you see abuse wise I've been there and done that except for smoking which I have never done. I ride a bicycle for exercise and there is a hill on my route that I would get so out of wind I would get dizzy when riding up it almost to the point of falling off the bike. I was also out of breath tying my shoes and when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night I would breath so hard from the exertion that when I got back into bed I thought it would waken my wife. At that point I started taking vitamin C and l-Lysine at 6 grams a day each. On the third day I rode over the hill and didn't notice it was there as far as breathing was concerned. The other breathing problems stopped also. At the same time I took a course of CMO followed by Glucosamine Chondroiten and MSM to rebuild my joints which made it so I didn't have to hold my breath with exertion and exacerbate the breathing problem. I didn't have to groan when arising from my chair or getting up from the floor when working on a car. No intelligence here just my experiences. Dave
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I googled these word pulmonary fibrosis Histoplasmosis and birds lots of hits be well Norm http://www.fairview.org/healthlibrary/content/aha_pulmofib_crs.htm Pulmonary fibrosis is also called interstitial lung disease. ... silica, and coal dust, and sensitivity to proteins made by animals such as birds and rats. ...
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My thyroid is low so I take a product called Thiodine. I found it on eBay, when I couldn't remember where I got it. I don't know what did the lung clearing other than time, but I know none of the volcanic ash was coughed up. The thyroid medication, whether prescription or over the counter didn't make any noticeable difference in the fatigue. Now that I'm taking MMS I am getting more energetic though very slowly. Dave Leslie wrote: Did this have anything to do with the thyroid? Did you take Iodine along with the other things?? What part of your program do you think helped clean the lungs out of all the asbestos or other stuff? I just feel tired all the time. Started taking Iodine but noticed two hairs on my face so I stopped; figured I was getting too much but will just not swab the skin every day like I was. I do feel that has helped. I take the CS from time to time but not regularly. My house was in the hurricane so may be mold hidden under and above the house but doesn't look like any in here. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - *From:* Dave mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: CSLung trouble I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up there to help in rescue. I worked all day in the dust without any dust mask. My lungs felt heavy for years but I didn't have any breathing troubles at that time as well as being an auto Mechanic with breathing a lot of asbestos from brake work so you see abuse wise I've been there and done that except for smoking which I have never done. I ride a bicycle for exercise and there is a hill on my route that I would get so out of wind I would get dizzy when riding up it almost to the point of falling off the bike. I was also out of breath tying my shoes and when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night I would breath so hard from the exertion that when I got back into bed I thought it would waken my wife. At that point I started taking vitamin C and l-Lysine at 6 grams a day each. On the third day I rode over the hill and didn't notice it was there as far as breathing was concerned. The other breathing problems stopped also. At the same time I took a course of CMO followed by Glucosamine Chondroiten and MSM to rebuild my joints which made it so I didn't have to hold my breath with exertion and exacerbate the breathing problem. I didn't have to groan when arising from my chair or getting up from the floor when working on a car. No intelligence here just my experiences. Dave marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought I'd canvas the intelligent people on this group for some ideas to help my husband. He has trouble breathing, and doctors don't seem to be able to help him. The breathing difficulty occurs with any exertion at all, and also when he bends over as in to tie a shoelace. He's had x-rays of his lungs, and the doctors have told him that he has Histoplasmosis -- but that that is not causing his breathing difficulty. The doctors (pulmonologists) said that basically what's wrong with his lungs is that they're 75 years old. I know a lot of 75-year old people who have no trouble breathing, so that doesn't cut it with me. They prescribed inhalation products for him, but they did not help. Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs! have h ad plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy and strong individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or least no one has told us so. TIA. MA
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Dr. Basar of Ankara University, Turkey found that oregano oil (origanum vulgare) reversed emphysema in lab rats. If he coughs, it will calm the cough and it will kill pathogens. Buy it form Anatolian Treasures and get a great price and well tested product. If they don't have origanum vulgare get origanum dubium--the properties are quite similar. Tracy had a lung purge that will do amazing things for folks with respiratory issues. Let me know if you want it and I'll send it privately. Saralou Heidrun Beer wrote: On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:13:35 +, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote in Some background: he was a firefighter for thirty years, he was a very heavy smoker for at least as long (but hasn't smoked in twenty-five years), and most recently he ran two poultry growing houses for thirteen years. So his lungs have had plenty of abuse. He is otherwise a healthy an! d stron g individual, about ten lbs. overweight with a bit of a paunch but not a lot. If his lungs aren't diseased, except for the Histoplasmosis, then what is causing the breathing difficulties? If anyone has any ideas to share, we'd be grateful. Oh -- one other thing -- his father died from emphysema. I don't know if that disease is genetic or not, or if it predisposes him to lung trouble. But he's not been diagnosed with emphysema -- or -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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pulmonary fibrosis Histoplasmosis and birds During a chest exam, a doctor looked at some scar tissue on my xray and asked if I was from the midwest. I told him that I grew up in Indiana. He went on to tell me that most people in the midwest, including his mother, had similar conditions and told me it was histoplasmosis. (I wrote down the name) His mother was xrayed and the picture showed cloudiness in both lungs. They treated her for lung cancer before discovering it was histoplasmosis. He said it's from chicken bird manure spores in the air and breathed in by mid-westerners. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLung trouble (B-Vitamins for Energy)
Hi, Leslie, Taking B complex has helped my energy levels a lot. I buy 100 mg. capsules and took 4 to 6 a day for a few days until I felt good, then was able to maintain energy levels on about 2 a day. Hope you find what works for you. Take care, Cindy I just feel tired all the time. Leslie
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If you were in the hurricane, there is a fast and cheap online test you can take that will tell you if that is part or all of your problem. www.chronicneurotoxins.com VCS test. I have used that test to help me gauge how well I am detoxing from the mold. This Dr went down there on his own time and with his own money and helped people then. Kathryn On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Leslie wrote: Did this have anything to do with the thyroid? Did you take Iodine along with the other things?? What part of your program do you think helped clean the lungs out of all the asbestos or other stuff? I just feel tired all the time. Started taking Iodine but noticed two hairs on my face so I stopped; figured I was getting too much but will just not swab the skin every day like I was. I do feel that has helped. I take the CS from time to time but not regularly. My house was in the hurricane so may be mold hidden under and above the house but doesn't look like any in here. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: Dave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: CSLung trouble I don't buy the the age aspect as I am almost that old and I took care of a very similar breathing problem. In 1980 when Mt Saint Helens blew it's top I was up ther -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thank you very much. I have ordered some Brewer's yeast which I was told has all the B vitamins in it so you don't have to worry about getting enough or one or the other. I have another question I would like to put out here and that is when a baby is having trouble with their milk, can we put a little bit of cs in their bottle?? I know it works to prevent bacteria in my milk and makes it last an extra week plus. Thanks to everyone, Leslie - Original Message - From: ch...@tx.rr.com To: Silver List Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: CSLung trouble (B-Vitamins for Energy) Hi, Leslie, Taking B complex has helped my energy levels a lot. I buy 100 mg. capsules and took 4 to 6 a day for a few days until I felt good, then was able to maintain energy levels on about 2 a day. Hope you find what works for you. Take care, Cindy I just feel tired all the time. Leslie
