RE: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Hello Sol, If you have someone to help you, and can follow directions exactly, here is a way to deal with your sinus issues. Understand that these are powerful chemicals. If you use them properly, they work great, but don't try to abuse them. You will need a humidifier and 5% sodium chlorite. Mix up a bottle with 1 liter of water in it and add 5 ml (about 1 teaspoon) of the 5% sodium chlorite to it. Put this water into the humidifier and point it away from you. You don't want a direct blast, you just want to have some of this floating in the air. Next you will have to find a way to breathe through your nose. Use the humidifier for 4 hours a day. This is designed for a normal sized room. This is where you will need a helper. Have your helper stand outside for 10 minutes and then walk into the room while the humidifier is running. There should be no detectable odor. If there is an odor detected, add more water to dilute the solution a little. This solution has 150 PPM available chlorine dioxide and virtually no free chlorine dioxide. As the vapors fill the room, you will end up breathing some of those vapors into your sinus area. As the solution encounters infection, trace amounts of chlorine dioxide will be released killing off the infection. This is not a whizz bang production, but is designed to knock the infection down a little bit at a time. After 3 - 4 days of this, you should experience an improvement. Now comes the hard part. The sinus area is supposed to have a beneficial flora in it. Infections form when the flora gets wiped out or out of balance. Chlorine dioxide will probably wipe out the flora along with the infection, so after a few days of using the humidifier, stop using it and find a way to introduce some probiotics into your sinus area. Unfortunately, the re-growth of flora in the sinus area is a slow process, and hopefully you won't get re-infected while you are trying to grow the new flora. This is a 3 - 4 day process. Make sure the level in the room is below the odor threshold, and be sure to add probiotics after the infection has been knocked down. This process (minus the addition of probiotics) has been used with chickens, turkeys, and ducks, and has been very successful in dealing with respiratory problems. In those cases the chicken coop has a lot more ventilation, and the concentration used was about 1000 PPM. The time was reduced to a fogging morning and night. I have tried this inside a house and 1000 PPM is way too high, 500 PPM is about the odor threshold, so 150 PPM should not present a problem. Having the humidifier run for 4 hours will make up for the lower PPM concentration. This is a technical procedure, so make sure you understand all of the instructions. I am not sure what probiotic will work best, but you should be able to find on by doing some research. People introduce the probiotic by using a neti pot, but there are other ways to do this if you are unable to use one. Good luck and here's hoping you achieve better health. Tom -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi sol, sorry to hear you are unwell. Do you spray the CS up the nose? Or have you thought of a Medisana (I can't remember if you have one) Also, what about CS and H202? Dee, Well, err, it is embarrassinhg to admit I stopped misting with CS the pain I was in was so all-consuming, it simply drove everything else out of mind. I simply forgot my misting. I am using CS/DMSO nose drops, for that purpose I prefer DMSO as an additicve to H202. I do have a Medisana, that I ran at night with distilled water or CS (it mists rigfht over my face when I'm in my bed, but I haven't been able to lay down for 6 weeks, and can't find a plae to run it near the chair I spend my nights in. I also have a small hand held Omron nebulizer, with an extension tube, you made me remember it. I can get my husband to set it up for me and nebulize CS-MSM-DMSO a couple times a day. I hurry to say that misting CS didn't stop protecting me fdrom sinus infections, etrc, I stopped mistring...this is the firest sinus infection I've had in 8 years or so, and it is not a cold, just tyhe sinus. Pain meds and DMSO applicationhs help with the upper back pain from the discs, but do not help the tingling burning nerve pain in my hands..and I've done about all the tryping I can do today...so may have to postpone further replies to aother day, or keep them to one or two words, very hard for such a wordy person as myself. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com
CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
I had sinus surgery +/- 20 years ago, and my doc gave me an irrigator that fits on a water pick..and it works wonders. Put it in one nostril and let it slowly fill and come out the other.then switch and do the other side..donno 'bout the oregano oil.start light and build up would be my advice. Most medical supply stores carry an irrigator for the water pick.good luck ron On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
I've been using a NeilMed sinus rinse for years. You don't have to turn your head, just squeeze the bottle. Costo has them on sale now. Most pharmacy's care them too. Take Care, Mike From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 10:46:01 AM Subject: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
There are nasal irrigators that are not neti pots. They are plastic squeeze bottles with a tip that will fit into the nasal orifice. I got rid of a long standing nasal infection by using CS in a pump spray bottle (Source Naturals) and then bending over and then lying down on each side an my back to it would drain into all the sinuses. For the cervical issues you might want to research a LET PS705 cosmodic unit. If you are interested you can email me back channel and I will be happy to give you information. I also have neck injuries from an auto accident and this unit has been a treasure for me. PT - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
mhale wrote: I've been using a NeilMed sinus rinse for years. You don't have to turn your head, just squeeze the bottle. Costo has them on sale now. Most pharmacy's care them too. Take Care, Mike Thanks, that is a great idea, but at the moment, because of neuropathy in my hands, I won't be able to use a squeeze bulb. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
This is the one I wrote about... just couldn't remember the name! PT - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:03 PM Subject: Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing mhale wrote: I've been using a NeilMed sinus rinse for years. You don't have to turn your head, just squeeze the bottle. Costo has them on sale now. Most pharmacy's care them too. Take Care, Mike Thanks, that is a great idea, but at the moment, because of neuropathy in my hands, I won't be able to use a squeeze bulb. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Hi sol, sorry to hear you are unwell. Do you spray the CS up the nose? Or have you thought of a Medisana (I can't remember if you have one) Also, what about CS and H202? I am using this in a spray for my dog with furunculosis and although he is also on tacrolimus cream, i have found an improvement - slight - in the condition. I know it is different, but thought maybe it would have an effect. dee On 25 Jun 2010, at 18:46, sol wrote: Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi sol, sorry to hear you are unwell. Do you spray the CS up the nose? Or have you thought of a Medisana (I can't remember if you have one) Also, what about CS and H202? Dee, Well, err, it is embarrassinhg to admit I stopped misting with CS the pain I was in was so all-consuming, it simply drove everything else out of mind. I simply forgot my misting. I am using CS/DMSO nose drops, for that purpose I prefer DMSO as an additicve to H202. I do have a Medisana, that I ran at night with distilled water or CS (it mists rigfht over my face when I'm in my bed, but I haven't been able to lay down for 6 weeks, and can't find a plae to run it near the chair I spend my nights in. I also have a small hand held Omron nebulizer, with an extension tube, you made me remember it. I can get my husband to set it up for me and nebulize CS-MSM-DMSO a couple times a day. I hurry to say that misting CS didn't stop protecting me fdrom sinus infections, etrc, I stopped mistring...this is the firest sinus infection I've had in 8 years or so, and it is not a cold, just tyhe sinus. Pain meds and DMSO applicationhs help with the upper back pain from the discs, but do not help the tingling burning nerve pain in my hands..and I've done about all the tryping I can do today...so may have to postpone further replies to aother day, or keep them to one or two words, very hard for such a wordy person as myself. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Sol, I tried the Certo (2tsp) + 3 oz Grape Juice, 3 times a day and the pain in my hands cleared up in two days. I am constantly surprised by what I find on this list. mike From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:21:31 PM Subject: Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi sol, sorry to hear you are unwell. Do you spray the CS up the nose? Or have you thought of a Medisana (I can't remember if you have one) Also, what about CS and H202? Dee, Well, err, it is embarrassinhg to admit I stopped misting with CS the pain I was in was so all-consuming, it simply drove everything else out of mind. I simply forgot my misting. I am using CS/DMSO nose drops, for that purpose I prefer DMSO as an additicve to H202. I do have a Medisana, that I ran at night with distilled water or CS (it mists rigfht over my face when I'm in my bed, but I haven't been able to lay down for 6 weeks, and can't find a plae to run it near the chair I spend my nights in. I also have a small hand held Omron nebulizer, with an extension tube, you made me remember it. I can get my husband to set it up for me and nebulize CS-MSM-DMSO a couple times a day. I hurry to say that misting CS didn't stop protecting me fdrom sinus infections, etrc, I stopped mistring...this is the firest sinus infection I've had in 8 years or so, and it is not a cold, just tyhe sinus. Pain meds and DMSO applicationhs help with the upper back pain from the discs, but do not help the tingling burning nerve pain in my hands..and I've done about all the tryping I can do today...so may have to postpone further replies to aother day, or keep them to one or two words, very hard for such a wordy person as myself. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
Sol: If you want to use CS (your own solution) then you need a Grossan irrigator tip for your water pik. Don't try it without the proper implement, which can be found here: http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/ethicare_com/Categories Make sure it will fit your model waterpik. Another option that we have used is a pressurized nasal spray: We really like this one: http://www.drugstore.com/qxp179975_333181_sespider_1_1/ocean/ultra_sterile_saline_nasal_mist.htm It contains Ringer's Solution and does a great job of flushing out your sinus passages. It is pressurized, so you don't need to squeeze it, just depress the irrigator. You can get quite a few sprays out of it before it is exhausted. Just be careful not to spray in your eyes. It keeps coming out for a little while after you release it. This or something like it may be found in your local drug store. Del - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: CSsinus infection/sinus washing Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
If you want to use CS (your own solution) then you need a Grossan irrigator tip for your water pik. Don't try it without the proper implement, which can be found here: http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/ethicare_com/Categories Make sure it will fit your model waterpik. == I initially got a Grossan ATTACHMENT for my water pik. When the water pik broke, I bought the ENTIRE Grossan sinus irrigator. Having used both, I like the irrigator much better. It can be set so it emits a much more gentle spray, and it doesn't traumatize my sinuses. Nenah
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
If you mean the syringe type, yes, I have and I like it better than the netti pot. Just push slowly and sniff easy. It helps a lot. Bruce A. On 6/25/2010 1:46 PM, sol wrote: Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
I use the Hydro-Pulse water pick designed by DR Grossan. I use a jigger of EIS mixed with H2O2, MSM, Xylitol, and a few drops of Peppermint oil plus 1 to 3 teaspoons of salt plus a teaspoon of baking soda plus 4 drops of DMSO in 12 ounces of warm water. The Hydro-Pulse is designed to operate at the frequency of the Cilia. I am on about my 4th unit as they don't last long unless they are flushed with water after each use. I buy direct from DR Grossan but I think it can be bought cheaper on line. I tried using just a water pick with the Grossan attachment and that did work but it didn't hold up long with my special sinus mixture. I use the baking soda hopefully to treat any fungus in my sinuses. The Mayo clinic said most sinus infections are caused by a fungus. I found EIS is not very effective for a fungus. Baking Soda was shown on Know The Cause to work very well for fungus problems. The Dentist did the root canal and showed me the gunk he removed with his little file. Looked pretty rotten to me. He only had a 25mm long file and my tooth is 27mm. So does the extra 2mm part of the tooth not cleaned out matter? Brickey
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
I add baking soda to the wash. It works for me. Robert From: Bruce Anderson bande65...@btes.tv To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 8:47:42 PM Subject: Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing If you mean the syringe type, yes, I have and I like it better than the netti pot. Just push slowly and sniff easy. It helps a lot. Bruce A. On 6/25/2010 1:46 PM, sol wrote: Due to chronic very extreme pain for the past 6 + weeks, requiring actual narcotic pain meds, which in turn caused extreme dry mouth, I did not recognize a sore throat as an actual infection until I had a sinus infection. Damaged discs in cervical spine, C3/4, C5/6, so I find I cannot really use my neti pot often or effectively enough to get rid of it, because of not being able to hang my head and turn my neck over the sink without adding more pain and stress to the already injured discs.etc, etc. So I'm using CS and salt to wash them out as much as possible, but it isn't enough. Questions: Anyone ever used a dental irrigator at very low flow in place of a neti pot? Is it adviseable (or perhaps dangerous?) to add a tiny drop of essential oil of oregano to the wash water Neuropathy in my fingers and hands from the damaged discs prevents me typing very long, and also can't sit at the screen very long, so I'm asking here for help and ideas instead of searching archives, which I just can't do right now. Anybody got any better ideas for ways I can get an effective thorough sinus wash with a bum neck? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
I'm not challenging you, but the baking soda for fungus doesn't make any sense to me. From my training fungus thrives in alkaline environments and things don't get more alkaline than baking soda, to my knowledge. Can anyone explain why one would use baking soda for a fungus infection? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing I use the Hydro-Pulse water pick designed by DR Grossan. I use a jigger of EIS mixed with H2O2, MSM, Xylitol, and a few drops of Peppermint oil plus 1 to 3 teaspoons of salt plus a teaspoon of baking soda plus 4 drops of DMSO in 12 ounces of warm water. The Hydro-Pulse is designed to operate at the frequency of the Cilia. I am on about my 4th unit as they don't last long unless they are flushed with water after each use. I buy direct from DR Grossan but I think it can be bought cheaper on line. I tried using just a water pick with the Grossan attachment and that did work but it didn't hold up long with my special sinus mixture. I use the baking soda hopefully to treat any fungus in my sinuses. The Mayo clinic said most sinus infections are caused by a fungus. I found EIS is not very effective for a fungus. Baking Soda was shown on Know The Cause to work very well for fungus problems. The Dentist did the root canal and showed me the gunk he removed with his little file. Looked pretty rotten to me. He only had a 25mm long file and my tooth is 27mm. So does the extra 2mm part of the tooth not cleaned out matter? Brickey
Re: CSsinus infection/sinus washing
mhale wrote: Sol, I tried the Certo (2tsp) + 3 oz Grape Juice, 3 times a day and the pain in my hands cleared up in two days. I am constantly surprised by what I find on this list. mike ** Mike, What was the cause of your hand pain? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_electrostimulation aka electro-sex. ..only way I could think of. Odeperv At 11:13 AM 6/29/2009 -0400, you wrote: Can you point me to information on how to use a zapper on the postrate? Marshall Sam L. wrote: Hi Dianne. Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know exactly how a zapper works or where you put it to affect the sinus cavity but have read that electrical current near the eyes can cause macular degeneration. Is the current in the zapper low enough not to affect the eyes? Dianne Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet From: one...@gmail.com mailto:one...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Hi Dianne.Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.comwrote: I don't know exactly how a zapper works or where you put it to affect the sinus cavity but have read that electrical current near the eyes can cause macular degeneration. Is the current in the zapper low enough not to affect the eyes? Dianne -- Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet From: one...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Sam, What Zapper are you using? No archives to go back and check. Sorry. Are you talking about the Hulda Clark Zapper? Which Zapper? There are so many variations on the theme. You know? Thanks, S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Sam L. Date: 6/28/2009 11:07:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet Hi Dianne. Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Can you point me to information on how to use a zapper on the postrate? Marshall Sam L. wrote: Hi Dianne. Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know exactly how a zapper works or where you put it to affect the sinus cavity but have read that electrical current near the eyes can cause macular degeneration. Is the current in the zapper low enough not to affect the eyes? Dianne Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet From: one...@gmail.com mailto:one...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Hi Max. Right now I'm using a very simple 6 volt lantern battery with the electrode being 2 3 inch sponges. I change polarity manually about every 5 minutes. I do have a unit from V that has a 4hrz Beck and 30 second switch but its not available to me right now. Sam L On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:38 AM, sms s...@emotap.com wrote: Sam, What Zapper are you using? No archives to go back and check. Sorry. Are you talking about the Hulda Clark Zapper? Which Zapper? There are so many variations on the theme. You know? Thanks, S-Max *---Original Message---* *From:* Sam L. one...@gmail.com *Date:* 6/28/2009 11:07:32 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet Hi Dianne. Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Hi Marshall.What I originally did was us a six volt battery, two wires running to 2 plastic shoe boxes filled with water. The wires were stripped at both ends. So the current went from foot to foot passing though the midsection. I would change polarity every 5 minutes. Each session would run 20 minutes 2 times a day. I did this for 1 week. More info can be found at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ Hope this helps. Sam L On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: Can you point me to information on how to use a zapper on the postrate? Marshall Sam L. wrote: Hi Dianne. Thats a good question. There are many theory's why or how a zapper works. The current in my zapper is around 4 mil amps. I do use around the eyes, not a lot though. The zapper has been so good for me, cured my drop foot when everyone said back surgery was the only option. I told them surgery was the last option. I made a simple zapper to help with my prostrate problems and my drop foot started getting better. I still have prostate problems and drop foot but every month or so I zap the effected area and it goes away. Has helped with many other conditions also. Ode came up with a very good theory why a zapper works and I believe it but their are other factors involved also. Thanks for your concern Sam L On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.commailto: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know exactly how a zapper works or where you put it to affect the sinus cavity but have read that electrical current near the eyes can cause macular degeneration. Is the current in the zapper low enough not to affect the eyes? Dianne Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet From: one...@gmail.com mailto:one...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: I use diphenhydramine to change the bacterial growth environment..dries things out so mucous production isn't isolating and protecting the bacterium [ a toke of the weed might do the same thing], Ibuprofen for pain and swelling of inflamed tissues [willow bark might do the same thing] and CS to kill off the now exposed and unprotected bacteriuma few applications of the CS per day. When your eyeballs burn a little, you know you got it there. So far, worked every time within a few hours. Repeated once the next day and no comeback. I usually resist doing anything like that till I'm absolutely miserable and can't think crooked anymore. Ode At 07:10 PM 6/26/2009 -0700, you wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
RE: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
I don't know exactly how a zapper works or where you put it to affect the sinus cavity but have read that electrical current near the eyes can cause macular degeneration. Is the current in the zapper low enough not to affect the eyes? Dianne Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet From: one...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks for everyones help. I am feeling better today. Started sleeping on a new bed, sheets,and pillows. Neti pot helped allot. A few good sprays of cs up the nose, eyeballs burned a little. Using the zapper twice per days now that I know where the sinus cavity is. Taking some diphenhydramine also. I believe the old pillows were re-infecting me every night with bacteria. Sam L.
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Hi Sam, There are a number of things that cause sinus filling or irritation besides infection. Hay fever is one, several medications either prescribed or over-the-counter can also do it, and they don't necessarily cause a reaction right after you take them. My reason for mentioning this is that you may be causing enough irritation with the other things you are doing in conjunction with, well, who knows what, to have yourself a vicious circle going. Sometimes a new pillow or blanket, a new source of dust in the room, new fresh scent laundry detergent or something completely unexpected can trigger it; some people are even triggered by a new light source. My suggestion is to avoid the kitchen sink, try the things that are gentlest one or two at a time and give the sensitive tissues time to heal so whatever environmental or other irritant is present doesn't have such an easy time provoking a reaction. After three weeks those tissues are in an uproar, they're part of your body's first line of defense. When I have used CS I'll spritz and breathe in at the same time, in each nostril and down the throat, do that perhaps every hour until I've drained, then keep doing it some more (I also hit my eyes with a spritz or so - makes a difference.) Hope it gets better for you, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 19:34 -0700, Sam L. wrote: Thanks Kathryn, I just found a pic of the sinus sinus cavity. I did not know it was that large. I understand you upside down theory now. Pic = http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/upload/2007/03/sinus.bmp Sam L On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I assume you have tried straight EIS, 10 ppm or so. Many have said how important it is to rotate the head in every conceivable direction to allow the solution access to *all* the convoluted passages in the sinus. This includes upside down etc. Using the neti pot over the sink might not get to the upper areas. BW, kathryn On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Sam L. wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
I use diphenhydramine to change the bacterial growth environment..dries things out so mucous production isn't isolating and protecting the bacterium [ a toke of the weed might do the same thing], Ibuprofen for pain and swelling of inflamed tissues [willow bark might do the same thing] and CS to kill off the now exposed and unprotected bacteriuma few applications of the CS per day. When your eyeballs burn a little, you know you got it there. So far, worked every time within a few hours. Repeated once the next day and no comeback. I usually resist doing anything like that till I'm absolutely miserable and can't think crooked anymore. Ode At 07:10 PM 6/26/2009 -0700, you wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions.I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
I assume you have tried straight EIS, 10 ppm or so. Many have said how important it is to rotate the head in every conceivable direction to allow the solution access to *all* the convoluted passages in the sinus. This includes upside down etc. Using the neti pot over the sink might not get to the upper areas. BW, kathryn On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Sam L. wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Thanks Kathryn, I just found a pic of the sinus sinus cavity. I did not know it was that large. I understand you upside down theory now. Pic = http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/upload/2007/03/sinus.bmp Sam L On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.comwrote: I assume you have tried straight EIS, 10 ppm or so. Many have said how important it is to rotate the head in every conceivable direction to allow the solution access to *all* the convoluted passages in the sinus. This includes upside down etc. Using the neti pot over the sink might not get to the upper areas. BW, kathryn On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Sam L. wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Put CS in an empty and cleaned nasal spray bottle like the Dristan or Afrin nasal spray bottles. I have chronic sinusitis and this is what I do and it works well. Blow your nose well before spraying. Dave At 09:10 PM 6/26/2009, you wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
I think Gentian Violet will stain you purple. I use it in my dogs ear for yeast infections and their ears turn purple. I use Sea Salt in my neti pot.sleep on your back so your sinus will drain Sam L. On 6/26/09 9:10 PM, Sam L. one...@gmail.com wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Gwlynda Irek Country Ridge Bulldogs www.crbulldog.com Bulldog Club of America Preferred Breeder Lone Star Bulldog Club North Texas Non Sporting
Re: CSSinus infection and gentian violet
Nice graphic. There are also some sinus areas in more direct contact with the brain. I can't remember the name of that one, though. Here is another link I googled up, it has some more cool images, too: http://www.american-rhinologic.org/patientinfo.sinusnasalanatomy.phtml It is a more complicated business than it seems at first glance, imho. There are some pretty deep in the head too. Others here have stated that lying backwards on the bed with the head off the end and dripping the cs in; then rolling the head from side to side; or around as much as movement will allow can be helpful. For me, the cs starts to be somewhat uncomfortable once the infection begins to subside, more so as it gets better. I don't know if others share that experience or not. Kathryn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brief Overview of Sinus and Nasal Anatomy Martin J. Citardi, M.D. The paranasal sinuses are air-filled pockets located within the bones of the face and around the nasal cavity. Each sinus is name for the bone in which it is located: * Maxillary (one sinus located in each cheek) * Ethmoid (approximately 6-12 small sinuses per side, located between the eyes) * Frontal (one sinus per side, located in the forehead) * Sphenoid (one sinus per side, located behind the ethmoid sinuses, near the middle of the skull) snip On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Sam L. wrote: Thanks Kathryn, I just found a pic of the sinus sinus cavity. I did not know it was that large. I understand you upside down theory now. Pic = http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/upload/2007/03/sinus.bmp Sam L On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I assume you have tried straight EIS, 10 ppm or so. Many have said how important it is to rotate the head in every conceivable direction to allow the solution access to *all* the convoluted passages in the sinus. This includes upside down etc. Using the neti pot over the sink might not get to the upper areas. BW, kathryn On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Sam L. wrote: Have had an extreme sinus infection for 3 weeks now. I been throwing the kitchen sink at it but now avail. Been using a neti pot for 2 days with saline solution,CS,CS+dmso,CS+ hydrogen peroxide and water+ grapefruit seed extract. I can get it cleared out by the end of the day, next morning its back full force. I heard gentian violet was really good for sinus problems, my question would this be safe using a drop or 2 in a neti pot? Or any other suggestions. I have been nublizing and using a the zapper on it also. TIA Sam -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[RE]CSsinus infection Brooks B.
Dear Shirley, I will try, briefly, to give a quick summary of the protocol I used. I employed the general suggestions given in Gary Craig's EFT Manual. I used direct statements which included the brief identity of the affected part/condition. I used the unmodified basic protocol (all of it) two or three times dailybut being sure to have one of them the last thing before going to sleep at night. I repeated the tapping procedure (together with the mantra) three times for each location (using a minimum of seven tapes for each location---each time the procedure was employed. I was "shocked" at the degree of relief...and the speed of the occurrence of the improvementof my insomnia (three days for SIGNIFICANT improvement). This condition had been manifest for the immediately past 10 years.and NOTHING attempted yielded any measurable...realcorrection, prior to applying this extraordinarily simplistic protocol. I was even more impressed by the improvement ! in my chronic sinus drainageas no drug-based therapy had ever successfully addressed that issue. I am not recommending EFT as a treatment for anything-just relating my personal experience. If it was a PLACEBO EFFECT, it was the most powerful of which I have ever heard. Do understand, a majority of our staff are DEEPLY involved in the more CONVENTIONAL aspects of the mainstream scientific/medical paradigmthan am Iconsequently, a significant number consider "spontaneous correction" a more tenable explanationthan assigning any credible effect to the EFT protocols. Their intellectual predications are of no real moment to mehowever. Personal experience displays the highest flag.at least to me. [ As a matter of record, few of them enjoy more extensive academic/professional qualificationsthan do I.] I hope these comments are of some value to you. I must go now. My Best Regards and Good Wishes to You, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- >Subject : CS>sinus infection Brooks B. >Date : Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:45:42 -0700 >From : "Shirley Reed">To : silver-list@eskimo.com > > Brooks, can you tell more about just how you applied the EFT procedure? >For instance, how many times per day did you tap? Exactly what line -up of >tapping points did you use? (There are many of these) Any shortcuts? Did >you tap at a particular time each day? Etc. pj pj > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSsinus infection Brooks B.
Brooks, can you tell more about just how you applied the EFT procedure? For instance, how many times per day did you tap? Exactly what line -up of tapping points did you use? (There are many of these) Any shortcuts? Did you tap at a particular time each day? Etc. tia pj
CSSinus Infection
I use CS nose drops with about 2 MG of Xylitol added. I put a lot of this my nose until the sinus is flooded with it. Do this a few times per day when fighting a cold or sinus infection. In addition to using CS drops and/or spray, an indispensable therapeutic tool for dealing with chronic sinus problems is he Grossan sinus irrigator.There is nothing else that I am aware of that does what this does. We use it with the Grossan breathe*easeXL which is very effective. Or, you can add a half teaspoon of salt, a 1/4 teaspoon of bakink soda, and 1/4 teaspoon of Xylito to a standard water pik tank of water. You can purchase a full system from the Grossan website (www.grossan.com), or you can just buy the Grossan nasal tip and use it with a standard water pik (much cheaper). The web site has a lot of good information on drug-free treatment of the sinus. Another very useful item is the Nutra-Biotic saline nasal spray containing 1% GSE. Used in conjunction with CS and the Grossan irrigator, and you can successfully treat chronic sinus problems without drugs.. Del Neroni -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSinus infection
I started taking more CS with 2 parts Gatorade and it has finally gotten rid of my sinus infection and congestion in my chest. I am taking 20 ounces at a time 3 times a day. It took a while but I know what to do now at first signs of problem. Thanks to every one for advise Bob
Re: CSSinus Infection
My thinking on not mixing DMSO and H2O2 is not that they will cause any kind of harm but that DMSO is a powerful anti-oxidant and H2O2 is an oxidizing agent. It appears to me that they may just cancel each other out. I have not heard anyone else address this issue except for the suggestion that when taking oral peroxide some people do take an anti-oxidant such as superoxide dismutase to prevent untoward oxidation reactions. However if it is the contribution of a molecule of oxygen that is the beneficial action of peroxide then it does not make a whole lot of sense, unless they anti-oxidant is taken later, after the peroxide has a chance to do some good? Just thoughts here, no proof. If you mix the two and it seems to work then go for it. I generally choose DMSO over peroxide myself, but part of that is due to the fact that the DMSO is easier to handle and obtain. Buying and diluting a pure grade of H2O2 can be a bother and takes some care in handling 35% H2O2. I don't want to ingest the brown bottle drug store 3% peroxide due to the stabilizers in this particular preparation. I can forward more info on this stabilizer from a supplier's web site. I will go look for it now. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 09:38, sol wrote: I hope she will answer my question then. I just can't remember where I read that there was a problem or conflict. sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, I've never heard anything bad about mixing H2O2 and DMSO--I'm sure Garnet would have helped to inform us--she's ONE sharp Pharmacologist who adds much to this list. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
I get some burning from 20% DMSO CS when I use drops in my nose. I think it is from the DMSO. I will have to try it with just the CS and see if that burns the same way. MSM could also be burning a little, have not tried that either, but I do know it is very bitter. I know for nasal irrigation you can avoid the burning by adding some salt, I think it is 1/4 teaspoon to a cup of warm water to achieve a physiological solution, one that matches the salinity of the body and hence does not burn. It's been years since I have used it but Ethicare makes an attachment for water piks that allows you to use them for sinus irrigation. There are also some very fancy pumps made specifically for this purpose. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 09:06, sol wrote: Hi, I got the ratio from this list, I use 1/4 tsp xylitol to 2 oz CS. Nope it doesn't sting at all, in fact it is very soothing,makes a nice change when I can't face the CS-MSM-DMSO which doesn't sting but does burn a bit, but I don't think adding salt to that would be a good idea. Perhaps someone else with more experience will comment. sol JS Campbell wrote: Sol, for your sinus wash,how much xylitol do you use with how much CS and also don't you need to add salt or it will sting like crazy? Thanks, BW Sheila -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSinus Infection, viral or bacterial?
You might get a secondary infection caused by a bacteria, but only viruses cause colds. The bacterial infection can be secondary to any source that causes mucous production that the bacteria can take hold in. Often it starts with an allergic reaction. Years ago someone told me of getting walking pneumonia every spring like clock work. Finally her doctor told her that if she is sleeping with her windows open that this could be the source of the problem. Pollens are heavily released in the early morning hours and were causing mucous. She said the annual bouts of pneumonia stopped when she started closing her windows at night. Although I love sleeping with my windows open I have noticed I have far more mucous when I do. I close them just before I go to sleep. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 07:14, David Bearrow wrote: I can tell the difference between a virus caused cold and a bacteria caused cold when taking CS. The bacteria caused cold is wiped out within 2 days. The viral cold runs its normal course. I can only conclude that CS alone is not effective against viral colds. David Bearrow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
You could be exposed to mold fumes, which are immune suppressant among other negative health effects. They can burn, cause headaches, CFS, cancer, will cause an infant to bleed out from the tiny capillaries in their lungs in 24 hours if sufficiently concentrated and from the right species of molds. Generally there are many species growing at the same time. Stachybotrys is one of the most toxic but not the only one that causes many problems. Old basements and HVAC systems are sources. Keeping the basement dry by using box fans to circulate the air can go a long way in preventing the growth of mold. Sewage vapors can't be good for you either. Heaven knows what is in them. A good air filter might help here, Aeriox has a good filtration system. Something like theirs or a good HEPA filter can remove some of the Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) from the air. I use a portable Aeriox in my car when I am going to be in heavy traffic. It makes a huge difference in how I feel at the end of the day, headaches and brain fog are so much less. I do not recommend the electrostatic air filters, the ionizing types sold by MLM'ers. Although they do seem to help with strong odors I really don't think they are effective for large spaces and are far too expensive. I tried four of the Sharper Image filters in a large great room. I had an HVAC air quality specialist in to test for mold after a roof leak. He said one of those in a very small bathroom might help but that they just don't move enough air to address a large space. I returned them within 60 days and got all my money back. It was nice to have tried them though and find out for myself. Wiping the dust off the collection plates constantly was not easy to keep up with either. A good airfilter will move the whole volume of air in a room several times an hour. For more recommendations find a good MCS list. They know what works. I also put a UV Aire light unit in one side of my house (we have two heat pumps). It did seem to help some and is suppose to keep mold out of the HVAC system. But at $400 installed I thought it should do more. I could buy a good air filter for that price. The UV bulb has to be replaced every 12-18 months so it has maintenance just like replacing filters. Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 13:01, Medwith, Robert wrote: Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in, Building where I work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems. I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day would help. Open to suggestions and ideas. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
I know very little about chemistry but if H2O2 is mixed with EIS wouldn't the reaction neutralize it? Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CSSinus Infection My thinking on not mixing DMSO and H2O2 is not that they will cause any kind of harm but that DMSO is a powerful anti-oxidant and H2O2 is an oxidizing agent. It appears to me that they may just cancel each other out. I have not heard anyone else address this issue except for the suggestion that when taking oral peroxide some people do take an anti-oxidant such as superoxide dismutase to prevent untoward oxidation reactions. However if it is the contribution of a molecule of oxygen that is the beneficial action of peroxide then it does not make a whole lot of sense, unless they anti-oxidant is taken later, after the peroxide has a chance to do some good? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
What H2O2 does is complicated, and I am not sure anyone understands it yet. Here are what appear to be the reactions, which are possibly to some extent cyclic until the H2O2 is gone. Ag + H2O2 - H2O + AgO The above appears to be very fast for the ionic portion, and slower for the particulate portion. 2AgO + 2H2O2 - 2H2O + 2Ag + O2 This seems to form very small metalic particles. So the large particles of silver end up eventually breaking down to small particles of silver via silver oxide. This appears to take some time as well. The solubility limit of Silver Oxide in cold water is about 13 ppm, so high ppm EIS will cause some precipitate to form, at least for a while. Now it appears that the 2Ag particles that form are not oxidized back to silver oxide as quickly as the larger particles. This may be due to the difference in the catalytic properties, or due to the larger particles often having an impurity such as copper in them. So the following when H2O2 is added to EIS appears to be what happens to me, but I could be wrong. Immediately Ag+ ionis become silver oxide. If the ppm exceeds about 13 ppm (8.5 mS?), then any remaining will form a fine white colloid that will eventually precipitate out. Over a longer period the metallic particles react and become silver oxide as well. Once again if the ppm of the silver oxide exceeds about 13 ppm, the excess will form a precipitate. Over time, the silver oxide will become very small silver particles, quite likely plating out on the small particles.. This is catalyzed by H2O2. Once the H2O2 is gone there should be a ratio of silver oxide to silver particles, after which time exposure to light will cause remaining silver oxide to become silver particles, quite possible plaing out on the silver particles already present causing them to grow in size. Marshall bob smith wrote: I know very little about chemistry but if H2O2 is mixed with EIS wouldn't the reaction neutralize it? Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CSSinus Infection My thinking on not mixing DMSO and H2O2 is not that they will cause any kind of harm but that DMSO is a powerful anti-oxidant and H2O2 is an oxidizing agent. It appears to me that they may just cancel each other out. I have not heard anyone else address this issue except for the suggestion that when taking oral peroxide some people do take an anti-oxidant such as superoxide dismutase to prevent untoward oxidation reactions. However if it is the contribution of a molecule of oxygen that is the beneficial action of peroxide then it does not make a whole lot of sense, unless they anti-oxidant is taken later, after the peroxide has a chance to do some good? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSinus Infection
Medwith, Robert wrote-Well I have another one of my many Sinus Infections. I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every morning and evening,15 PPM CS). I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I have been using it 3 or 4. I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a refill if necessary). In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days. Although I am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad. Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt terrible every time I got a Sinus infection. At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches. It seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest. This usually happens at least twice a year. Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in, Building where I work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems. I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day would help. Open to suggestions and ideas. Bob **I always got bad sinus infections with colds before CS. You don't say, are you putting CS in your nose, with your head tilted back, chin up, so it can get to the sinuses? That seems to do it for me. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsinus infection
Bob, Make sure you're getting the CS into the sinus cavities put several drops of 10% ionic CS into the nostrils while the head is tilted back preferably while lying down with your head over the side of a bed... roll your head gently from side to side for 3-4 minutes. Do that two or three (or more) times daily and it should clear up just about any sinus infection. The key is getting to silver to make contact with the germs. The next thing I would do is get the heck out of that building! Bob
RE: CSSinus Infection
Allergic component? -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection
Sol: All things considerd. Is your CS up to par ? Just a thought. Bill Amos -- Hi, I got the ratio from this list, I use 1/4 tsp xylitol to 2 oz CS. Nope it doesn't sting at all, in fact it is very soothing,makes a nice change when I can't face the CS-MSM-DMSO which doesn't sting but does burn a bit, but I don't think adding salt to that would be a good idea. Perhaps someone else with more experience will comment. sol JS Campbell wrote: Sol, for your sinus wash,how much xylitol do you use with how much CS and also don't you need to add salt or it will sting like crazy? Thanks, BW Sheila -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection
Grape Seed Extract. -- I'm having similar problems. What is GSE?? Lisa sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Thanks very much. I will try it! sol Ken Nancy wrote: Hey Sol, I can sympathize with you, I've felt after a few bouts with cold that CS didn't work as well as GSE. I've tried GSE with colds and bronchitis and it works really good. I usually would take 4 capsules of the liquid form throught the day with food. Just pour the liquid into empty capsules. Admittedly, I took CS/gatorade and GSE in the same day, but the CS/gatorade alone never did a whole lot for me. Ken - Original Message - From: sol To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Lisa - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! *** This message contains parts that can not be recognized or delivered to your device but has been saved on your webmail account. It will be stored there for future access until your webmail account reaches a 5 Megabyte limit at which time it will be deleted. If you have access to a computer and wish to view the complete message please visit https://webmail.earthlink.net and enter your MailStation e-mail address and password.
RE: CSSinus Infection, viral or bacterial?
I can tell the difference between a virus caused cold and a bacteria caused cold when taking CS. The bacteria caused cold is wiped out within 2 days. The viral cold runs its normal course. I can only conclude that CS alone is not effective against viral colds. David Bearrow At 10:19 PM 10/7/04, you wrote: Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
Thanks very much. I will try it! sol Ken Nancy wrote: Hey Sol, I can sympathize with you, I've felt after a few bouts with cold that CS didn't work as well as GSE. I've tried GSE with colds and bronchitis and it works really good. I usually would take 4 capsules of the liquid form throught the day with food. Just pour the liquid into empty capsules. Admittedly, I took CS/gatorade and GSE in the same day, but the CS/gatorade alone never did a whole lot for me. Ken - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
Undoubtedly. Jim Holmes wrote: Allergic component? -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sol, for your sinus wash,how much xylitol do you use with how much CS and also don't you need to add salt or it will sting like crazy? Thanks, BW Sheila -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: 08 October 2004 04:20 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index. html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/i ndex.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/04
CSSinus Infection
Well I have another one of my many Sinus Infections... Two things that are so often ignored, forgotten, unknown about recurring sinus infections. 1. Your teeth. Are any of them painful but have never been root-canaled? Necrotic dental tissue will harbor the bacteria that lies in wait for your nose to start running from a cold or allergic reaction; then they have their needed mucous to proliferate in. There can also be other crevices in your sinus that become a hideout. I'm not suggesting root-canals, but that is what finally put an end to my 20 years or so of recurrent and chronic sinusitis. I just wish I had known of some other possibilities back then, like mag pulsers and such. Nevertheless, if I had it to do over again in the same circumstances, I would do the same as I did. I'm not kidding- I WOULD PULL MY TEETH before I would go through what I went through again with sinusitis. On the last one I had done, the dentist could not find necrosis by external examination or x-rays, and was hesitant to work on it. I looked him in the eye and said Drill it or pull it. He drilled, and found necrosis. That was 3-4 years ago and the end of 20 years of chronic sinusitis. It was not my last sinus infection however. 2. Allergic reactions to food, that trigger the mucous flow, that allow the bacteria to flourish. I posted on several forums back in the summer that I had finally found my last and worst allergen: CORN. A few poo-poohed the idea. I witheld further comment until I knew beyond any doubt and now I do know. Corn is the only thing whatsoever that I have carefully avoided for the past several months, and I have not had one single little allergic reaction whatsoever. My last sinus infection was after a cold and a bout of corn-eating early this year. You can't avoid them all because bacteria is everywhere. But the conditions for an extended infection were no longer present, and a thorough flooding of my sinuses with CS Xylitol literally stopped an infection in 15 minutes. DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I just got out of bed when I wrote thatYou're correct. However, my bottle from Wal-Mart says Grape Seed Plus. Bill -- Hi William, I believe you left out Fruit and the GSE I think stands for Grapefruit Seed Extract, a liquid. Excellent, but due to it's horrible taste, must be dropped in capsules in order to take it. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection Grape Seed Extract. -- I'm having similar problems. What is GSE?? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'm having similar problems. What is GSE?? Lisa sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Thanks very much. I will try it! sol Ken Nancy wrote: Hey Sol, I can sympathize with you, I've felt after a few bouts with cold that CS didn't work as well as GSE. I've tried GSE with colds and bronchitis and it works really good. I usually would take 4 capsules of the liquid form throught the day with food. Just pour the liquid into empty capsules. Admittedly, I took CS/gatorade and GSE in the same day, but the CS/gatorade alone never did a whole lot for me. Ken - Original Message - From: sol To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Lisa - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
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Hi, I got the ratio from this list, I use 1/4 tsp xylitol to 2 oz CS. Nope it doesn't sting at all, in fact it is very soothing,makes a nice change when I can't face the CS-MSM-DMSO which doesn't sting but does burn a bit, but I don't think adding salt to that would be a good idea. Perhaps someone else with more experience will comment. sol JS Campbell wrote: Sol, for your sinus wash,how much xylitol do you use with how much CS and also don't you need to add salt or it will sting like crazy? Thanks, BW Sheila -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSinus Infection
Hi Sol, I've never heard anything bad about mixing H2O2 and DMSO--I'm sure Garnet would have helped to inform us--she's ONE sharp Pharmacologist who adds much to this list. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSinus Infection -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Seems to be, I have a PWT, and have checked it's readings, so it seems to be functioning correctly. My CS reads the same as always, approx 10-14 ppm. I usually put a little H202 in some of it (I leave it out for misting eyes). sol William Amos wrote: Sol: All things considerd. Is your CS up to par ? Just a thought. Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Have you ever tried Vit C, 1g every hour for the entire day? I know several who swear by it. I can't testify as to its effect myself as I can't remember when I've had a cold. Bob S. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:19 PM Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I hope she will answer my question then. I just can't remember where I read that there was a problem or conflict. sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, I've never heard anything bad about mixing H2O2 and DMSO--I'm sure Garnet would have helped to inform us--she's ONE sharp Pharmacologist who adds much to this list. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi William, I believe you left out Fruit and the GSE I think stands for Grapefruit Seed Extract, a liquid. Excellent, but due to it's horrible taste, must be dropped in capsules in order to take it. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection Grape Seed Extract. -- I'm having similar problems. What is GSE?? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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GSE = Grapefruit Seed Extract This extract has antibacterial and antifungal properties. Very concentrated, be careful about putting it on your skin full strength. I add 200 drops to 8oz distilled water in a spray bottle and use as deoderant. Kills odor all day without any skin rash. Used to use it for skin fungal infections, but have since switched to tetrasil (www.tetrasil.com), which is a kind of silver ointment. Be very careful to dilute properly for internal use. If you don't, it will burn you badly. I never use internally because it gives me diarrhea. You can also get in tablet form, but those also gave me diarrhea. Del - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection Hi William, I believe you left out Fruit and the GSE I think stands for Grapefruit Seed Extract, a liquid. Excellent, but due to it's horrible taste, must be dropped in capsules in order to take it. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe:Re: CSSinus Infection Grape Seed Extract. -- I'm having similar problems. What is GSE?? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSinus Infection
Well I have another one of my many Sinus Infections. I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every morning and evening,15 PPM CS). I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I have been using it 3 or 4. I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a refill if necessary). In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days. Although I am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad. Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt terrible every time I got a Sinus infection. At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches. It seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest. This usually happens at least twice a year. Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in, Building where I work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems. I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day would help. Open to suggestions and ideas. Bob
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What aborts sinus infection for me is using nose drops/sinus wash of CS-MSM-DMSO my recipe (vary for your comfort) is 1 oz CS, 1 tsp pure msm powder, and 2 or 3 drops DMSO (70%). My first cold in 2 years is still hanging on, but as I was starting to get better I slacked off on the large amounts of CS I was drinking, and cut bact on all other forms of CS use. When I saw signs of incipient sinus infection I immediately started with the nose drops by filling my sinuses with my mix, hanging my head off the edge of the bed as long as I could stand it to let it stay in the sinuses. Followed by twice daily nose drops. In less than 24 hours the budding sinus infection was gone, but the cold lingers on. I also nebulized with the same mix when I felt this cold going into my lungs. So far so goodno secondary infections. In pre-CS years I'd have been on Z-packs by now, with serious sinus infection and bronchitis. Some of us are just WAY more susceptible to the cold virus and sinus infections than others, it seems. I have also been taking supplements like crazy, and still have the cold, which is taking it's own sweet time leaving. The only thing that stops me getting them in the first place is totally dedicated misting of hands and eyes whenever I am exposed. This means faithfully spraying during or immediately after every single shopping expedition, etc. Having slacked off on all fronts, and gotten this darn stubborn cold, it will likely be some time before laziness sets in again. Oral CS alone, of any amount at all from 2 oz to a pint or more daily, has never stopped me getting a cold. I have to stop the bugs at the entrance so to speak, as once they get in the body, all I can hope for is stopping complications. sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Well I have another one of my many Sinus Infections. I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every morning and evening,15 PPM CS). I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I have been using it 3 or 4. I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a refill if necessary). In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days. Although I am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad. Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt terrible every time I got a Sinus infection. At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches. It seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest. This usually happens at least twice a year. Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in, Building where I work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems. I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day would help. Open to suggestions and ideas. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSinus Infection
On page 88 of Searle's text The Use Of Colloids In Health And Disease, he mentions that colloidal iron has particular bactericidal action in cases of catarrh of the nose, larynx and pharynx and that the colloidal form of iron is not affected by gastric juices, unlike iron compounds. Has anybody any experience with colloidal iron with upper respiratory infection? Can it be made by a LVDC method? What source of iron makes a good, pure electrode? Are there toxicity issues? Thanks in advance for your input. Matthew
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Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. So many ask--How much CS do I take for how long when I get a problem? I recommend to keep it handy and take daily regularly without interrupting to keep your resistance built up and NOT allow the bugs to bother you. I also am a great believer in misting eyes and ears and hands several times a day upon exposure. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infection
Hey Sol, I can sympathize with you, I've felt after a few bouts with cold that CS didn't work as well as GSE. I've tried GSE with colds and bronchitis and it works really good. I usually would take 4 capsules of the liquid form throught the day with food. Just pour the liquid into empty capsules. Admittedly, I took CS/gatorade and GSE in the same day, but the CS/gatorade alone never did a whole lot for me. Ken - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: CSSinus Infection Richard, I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a normal course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all- I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days there), in order to stop it going into a secondary sinus infection and to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per oz of CS. Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some research or other writing on it somewhere? Thanks, sol Richard Harris wrote: Hi Sol, Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes, then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add your MSM DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus infection AND / or Dust?
on 1/27/03 11:49 AM, Douglas Haack at gvagraph...@adelphia.net wrote: I went out and bought this unit,i noticed that the unit puts out ozone, my carpenter said not to use this while in the same room for the ozone will kill everything. He said it was on the news. I am using it for my 93 old mother who has double pneumonia. I wrote to someone else and he also said never to breathe ozone that it was in the archrives some time back. comment I've discovered that dust of every kind in the work home environment can masquerade as a mild sinus infection. Bear with me, this will take some explaining!! For 20 plus years I awoke every morning with phlegm in my throat. This would take all sorts of coughing-up under the shower to clear this major air passage. Always sounded awful and was awful!! A committed SilverLister now for some 6/7 years -- a true blue believer -- especially with my trusty nebulizers!! I discovered that the CS Nebulising would not work, despite lots of difficulties, coughing and wheezing etc. There was often a build-up at the top of my windpipe/throat. Often so sticky I was unable to excercise for more that 5 minutes. And then simply had to give-up for lack of air getting thru to the lungs. This conditon was never chronic or really debilitating and I'm far from being an invalid. An uncomfortable and annoying problem!! Even went off milk in my coffee, thinking I'd developed a Lactose problem! We now have no carpets, just hardwood floors, so house dust is really easy to control. IT IS NOW 98% FIXED -- Bought the Honeywell air filter NEGATIVE IONIZER from Radio Shack. 24 tall unit with a fan -- and the IONIZING circuitry. $216 incl tax I have no connection with Honeywell or R/Shack. This unit runs 12/15 hours a day especially while sleeping. The unit attracts ALL the fine dust in an enclosed room. Its made an astonishing difference for us. One simply wipes the dust off a metal surface designed to attract and accumulate -- every week or so. We were using Allergy pills (the cheapest non prescription) occasionally and these also really helped. Tried Homeopathic pills for Asthma suffers -- also helped! In summer an enclosed room will be a real problem!! When one runs the house internal heating system, this too would only spread dust and overwhelm this new ionizing filter. Not sure what the summer solution is! So, the moral of the story is -- I was mislead and wrong about my condition!!! My discovery was just luck! I had first bought one of these gadgets back in the mid 80's, a small one that sat next to my bed. It had 4 or 5 wire exposed points that were passive dust attractors and these would become thick with black dust and also stain the wall. Needed vacuuming every few weeks or so. This unit being passive didn't have the air/dust thru put to make it really effective. My new unit has a fan (the PC type I guess / fairly noiseless) seems to push lots of air/dust/pollen thru the unit. The bed room now has this white noise backdrop. Anyway, that's my latest break thru!! (If I'm woodworking with lots of sawdust and not wearing a facemask I still suffer!!) In Silvation, Douglas Haack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSinus infection
Too much is just enough. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Bob's Your Uncle [SMTP:r...@wizard.com] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 4:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSSinus infection I know HOW to get it in my nose...I want to know HOW MUCH to put up there. Also, how much should I take internally, if any . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSinus infection
I know HOW to get it in my nose...I want to know HOW MUCH to put up there. Also, how much should I take internally, if any . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSinus infection
use all you want. it's non toxic and non accumulative. regards, Dennis :-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSsinus infection
I have a sinus infection that hasn't responded to any treatment and am going to try CSI bought some at a health food storehow much should i put up my nose and how often ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSsinus infection
Best you take it internally too. Re; for getting into your nasal area: one simple way to flood the area is to pour a small amount into your palm, close one nostril with a finger and snort. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Bob's Your Uncle [SMTP:r...@wizard.com] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 11:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSsinus infection I have a sinus infection that hasn't responded to any treatment and am going to try CSI bought some at a health food storehow much should i put up my nose and how often ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsinus infection
Best you take it internally too. Re; for getting into your nasal area: one simple way to flood the area is to pour a small amount into your palm, close one nostril with a finger and snort. James Osbourne, Holmes Another way is to use a small spray bottle, close one nostril, spray and sniff whenever you feel the need. Always being mindful of James' earlier post, to sniff in not out. Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsinus infection
In a message dated 7/31/99 5:09:54 PM Central Daylight Time, i...@win.co.nz writes: Best you take it internally too. Re; for getting into your nasal area: one simple way to flood the area is to pour a small amount into your palm, close one nostril with a finger and snort. James Osbourne, Holmes Another way is to use a small spray bottle, close one nostril, spray and sniff whenever you feel the need. Always being mindful of James' earlier post, to sniff in not out. Ivan We use an eye dropper and sniff in. Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSinus Infection
Snort it straight and drink it too, imhoI haven't had any trouble with my sinus since I started drinking CS everyday; taking no more medication. P. Bob's Your Uncle wrote: need advice...I was going to buy CS at local health food store. should I rinse the sinuses with a solution including CS or ingest it ? Can someone recommend the proper ratio of CS to water and other ingredients if a rinse is recommended ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSinus Infection
need advice...I was going to buy CS at local health food store. should I rinse the sinuses with a solution including CS or ingest it ? Can someone recommend the proper ratio of CS to water and other ingredients if a rinse is recommended ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSinus Infection
need advice...I was going to buy CS at local health food store. should I rinse the sinuses with a solution including CS or ingest it ? Can someone recommend the proper ratio of CS to water and other ingredients if a rinse is recommended ? You can do both! My friend uses a saline sprayer to spritz CS into her nostrils, she reports it is really helping! Taking some internally will help boost the immune system so that you won`t have any more infections, and even allergies are much improved. I used to really suffer with allergies, not any more! If you`d like to make your own CS it is really easy, and is a LOT cheaper, a few cents a gallon versus 20 bucks for a 4 ounce bottle. Here`s how: Get 4 nine-volt batteries, (lithiums last 4 times longer than alkalines, if you can afford the initial expense, about 28 bucks.) 2 pairs of alligator clips, (each pair is connected by a wire) 2 five inch long pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge 2 cups of distilled water a glass measuring cup, to measure and make in the same cup a water bottle to store the CS in. (I usually have silver wire to sell, at cost, for 5 bucks. I`ll need an address if you want some, or I can send the phone number of the jewelry supplier I use. They only sell by the ounce.) Rinse the cup and storage bottle with distilled water (dw) to get rid of any dust, soap residue or whatever. Measure out 2 cups of dw. Connect the four batteries together, top to top. Connect the silver wires to the batteries using the clips. Drop the silver wires into the water. Keep them about 1 inch apart, about the distance of the handle on the cup. Let it sit about one hour total. If you get a silver oxide buildup, wipe it off with a paper towel. Any that drops into the water is harmless. You will see bubbles on one wire, the oxides on the other, and maybe you`ll see the faint golden clouds forming, that is the colloid! Pour the finished CS into the storage bottle. Take a swallow a day as a preventive, three for an active infection. Use topically too; in the eyes it is mild and really stops the itchiness of hay fever. If you have any questions, please let me know. I`m really glad to help!! Marsha in Vallejo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSilver Toxicity was Re: CSSinus Infection cured!!!Yayy!
Katarina, You will probably never change his mind, a herb doctor who diagnoses southward brain tendencies due to cs nasal spray? I suppose if you put it in your ear it will reach your brain quicker. Also there have been few studies of the toxic effects of CS as in electro-generated colloid in water. Mostly studies are of elemental silver or silver protein or silver nitrate etc., and the amounts used in these studies are HUGE compared to the amounts we take. Dr John Hill D.C. in his book ' Colloidal Silver A Literature Review ' states this: The toxic effects of silver is another matter. Silver is toxic when used in excess but appears to be harmless if used in small amounts. Critics of colloidal silver sometimes state that it has been known to cause organ damage, kidney damage, pulmonary edema, atherosclerosis and death. Many of these claims appear to be based on a research study on dogs in which the dogs were deliberately killed by extremely large lethal doses of silver. At the doses given any heavy metal and probably many essential minerals like zinc, iron, copper, etc. would have produced death in similar fashion. And again we know that dogs died from injections of a type of protein bound silver in dosages ranging from 500mg to 1.9 grams of silver depending on the frequency of administration. This was equivalent in silver content to giving a 150 pound adult between 150 litres and 570 litres of 10 ppm colloidal silver, or between 75 and 285 liters of 20 ppm colloidal silver or between 50 and 190 litres of 30 ppm colloidal silver. the 10 gram estimated lethal dose for humans from Goodman and Gillman is equivalent to 1000 liters of 10 ppm colloidal silver In another case an individual ingested an estimated 124 grams of silver nitrate over a 9 year period. She developed argyria and an assortment of neurological symptoms as well... ...This report is often used by critics to attribute neurological disorders to silver consumption. They curiously fail to put in perspective the gross difference between the quantities of silver involved. and he also reports: The EPA publishes a reference dose (Rfd) for silver which is an estimate of daily exposure to the entire population that is unlikely to be associated with a significant risk of adverse effects over a lifetime. The current Rfd for oral silver exposure is 5 micrograms/kg/day with a critical dose estimated at 14 micrograms/kg/day... Based on this Rfd, a 150 pound adult should not exceed 350 micrograms/day. He then states that if an average person drinks 2 litres of water a day containing the EPA limit of 0.1 PPM and whose daily diet may contain about 90 micrograms of silver that would total less than 300 micrograms/day, which means that one could take a dose of 2 tsp. of 5 PPM or 1 tsp. of 10 PPM and still be under the Rfd!! 350 micrograms is equivalent to 70 mls (2oz,14 tsp.) of 5 PPM colloidal silver. These limits are extremely conservative, and the content of silver in food is almost non-existent these days. One should also weigh up the danger of damage caused by prescription medicine against the results that taking CS produces. Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSinus Infection cured!!!Yayy!
Hi Katarina, P.S. Can anyone suggest a good list or place to go for help with this candada? I've tried so many things and done so much reading and it's still just not working . This site is interesting...haven't tried the cure method yet. A HREF=http://www.nidlink.com/~bblinzler/candida.html;Candida: Treating it Successfully /A and this site is great for support and information exchange on a whole host of treatments and other issues: A HREF=http://www.healthyawareness.com/candida/;The Candida Forum has over 1,000 visitors a day. /A Best of luck, Taylor -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSinus Infection cured!!!Yayy!
Dear Everyone, this list is so amazing and the amount of information on it so huge that I end up only reading and never seem to get the time to write. But first, a huge thank you to everyone who encouraged me in persisting in using the CS for my sinus infection. Unfortunately, the CS I made myself with my beck's silver pulser was not good enough or strong enough or something because I tried taking it and spraying it in my nose for a couple of days with no success. But then I bought some 200ppm .0001 CS nasal spray from the store, and some 500ppm to hold on my tongue against the roof of my mouth and I could literally feel my sinuses clearing when I held it against the roof of my mouth. Within 48 hrs my quite serious sinus infection was gone. Yay!!! The last time I tried to get rid of a sinus infection I ended up on three months of antibiotics which only made me worse and they wanted to do sinus surgery and eight months later I am still fighting candida and a parasite from the antibiotic effects and here there is a way to get rid of it in 48 hrs with no side effects. I am so so grateful and excited. (told a friend and she cleared hers in a week with 40ppm storebought spray) My only worry is my herb doctor who tells me that CS is toxic and will cause scarring in the brain and kill brain cells, especially when used on the sinuses. He says he had a patient whose brain went south from using a CS nasal spray. So, I understand that there are no studies done on safety because who is going to fund them when CS is so cheap and easy to make on your own - but are there any articles at all that I could find to help refute him? He xeroxed me an article from a book on toxic effects of metals and it said Large doses of colloidal silver administered intravenously to experimental animals produced death due to pulmonary edema and congestion. Hemolysis and resulting bone marrow hyperplasia have been reported. Chronic bronchitis has also been reported to result from medicinal use of colloidal silver (Browning1969; Luckey et al 1975) Has anyone read these articles? Obviously we are not mainlining it in large quantities so I don't know if it even applies. I think I would like to take some on a regular basis so that I can help support my system while fighting off this candida/blastocystis, but I'm still a little worried about safety. And I have to get my setup working, so will have lots of questions but will save them for the next post. This is just a huge thank you. Take care, Katarina P.S. Can anyone suggest a good list or place to go for help with this candada? I've tried so many things and done so much reading and it's still just not working . Also, is there anyone on the list other than Margaret who used Becks silver pulser to make their CS and could help with additional advice? Thanks -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net