[RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Suweet Bubba. Fall is comin, weather is cooling off. I have to do some traveling for the work thing this fall but holler if you're gonna be able to get down this way and we'll try and get to the lake. Rob Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
[RCSE] Re: What about a BBQ at the Soaring Master's????
Oh yeah Baby! Throw on some of those jalapeno poppers. I'm all over that stuff. You won't want to be downwind of me on Sunday! Happy trails from Hungry Bubba got ya covered for Sat night. Joe Dirr -- JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: #122 Level V
Yipee! Way to go John. Now I don't feel so bad about getting beat by you :-) Now where's that bucket of ice water... Rob Glover - V100 Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Masters Pilot Roster Update
Not just a strong contest, but a gathering of really great folks and a lot of fun! Not so sure I'll be able to take time out of the socializing to actually put a plane in the air ;-) see you there - Rob Glover The Pilot roster was updated on the Soaring Masters website: http://www.worldsoaringmasters.com/blog/general/PilotRoster2006.html This is looking like a strong contest! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Re:Really practical ideas
This is REALLY GREAT. I further suggest that we offer free entry to well endowed young ladies, be they novice or expert. From time to time, the topic of attracting new flyers into competition has been batted about on this forum. A hearty Well Done to the Long Island Silent Flyers for a very practical solution - quoting from their recent posting: New to the contests are the Novice class, and Novices can register for FREE. Under 18 and Over 65 are also free for other classes. Note that it not only attracts new blood but also entices those of us with tired, old blood. May their endeavor be successful and spark a new trend. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gloves for working with Epoxy
I use nitrile. Latex is permeable by epoxys, and I don't like the feel of the vinyl gloves I've tried. Rob G Can anyone tell me what are the best gloves to use when working with Epoxy? Are they Latex, vinyl, or nitrile? Thanks in advance as this is the best source to get info from. Phil. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
Re: [RCSE] how high really
My Dad was one of very few human beings that was born in Taft back when, in 1927 or thereabouts. I have heard a lot of tales about living in a tent, big cats trying to eat his little sister, Grandpa drilling the first hole deeper than a mile, and of course the legendary Kern Mesa Thermals. Dad says that he flew a lot of free flight very early in the morning. After the sun had been up an hour he packed everything up and went home. Why? When he first started he tried trimming out a few free flight planes after 8 AM. He lost 5 models one morning. He said that you could give a free flight a hand toss to check trim and watch the model disappear virtually every time. If your tool box wasn't nailed down it was probably going to be lost as well. Absolutely perfect conditions for XC, but devastating for a kid with a bunch of free flight planes and limited budget. XC is an acquired taste, like a triple fermented bottle conditioned ale. It takes a lot of effort and some heartache and failure to really appreciate it when it works right. Conditions must be right, equipment must be right, and the participants must be ready and have their heads in the right space to take advantage of the event. But when all of this happens it's magic without any equal. As far as how high can you get? You can get a LOT higher than anybody would believe. It's a Zen Thing that no instrumentation will ever capture. If you can see the stabs then you're not ready to get on course yet. If you think that you need to see the airplane to fly it then think less. happy trails - Rob G Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:36:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randall Brust [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse was non-existent. That's how Joe consistently beat the pants off all the CC guys for all those years. The plane was always in the optimum position - right behind the tailgate of the truck, and he would only stop to thermal in a hat sucker, and he never let the model get much lower. Like I say... to be successful at cross country - If you are EVER comfortable seeing the plane, you're NOT high enough... At Taft, many years ago, I had to put in a time for Joe on Friday (I'd never flown cross country - Joe was out of town, and just needed a time and could make up whatever I lost the following 2 days). I was at the far turn in record time, I had the thermals for the ride home marked, and we were haulin' ass. That was right when I lost Wiley... Wiley did come home the following day unscathed(somebody found it about 7 miles off course), but I'll never hear the end of it... I've never really enjoyed cross country becasue of that experience. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra ? Who couples flaps to ailerons?: Drela repost
Brent - As with so many issues that we all worry about endlessly, this one is pretty minor. Yes, the plane will be very slightly more efficient if you mix the flaps with the ailerons correctly. But, if a guy without his flaps and ailerons mixed puts his plane in better air and closer to the pin he'll beat you every time. The right answer is to set the plane up as best you can late at night when you can't fly anyway, and spend every sparedaylight hour outlearning how to fly and spot lift better in every conceivable situation. Try the different programming and see if you can tell any difference. Mostly you can't, so don't worry about it. As my OFB Jim Thomas says, "Do that pilot sh*t Bubba." happy trails Rob G From: "Douglas, Brent" To: "Soaring Digest" soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra ? Who couples flaps to ailerons?: Drela repost Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I'm really confused, even though I know the 'right' answer. I had a very good flyer sell me on the opposite - just ailerons for turning, keeping the center section of the wing 'clean'. =20 I'm torn here - leverage really favors the outer surface, how much do you really get from the flap help? Lift, B.=20 Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Re: damn level Vs
What can you say. Damn level Vs will kick your ass every time they want to. We did six 13min rounds and Mark got them all Jerry Shape RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Masters
Looks like it's gonna be a fun group. Those of you who don't have a motel reservation yet might want to get on the stick. There's a football game or some such foolishness in Muncie the same weekend and rooms are already filled at a lot of the area hotels. happy trails - Rob G Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Mid South planes flown
Ben - Icon - don't write them off quite yet guys. thanks - Rob Glover Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] JR Synth rx - in a Duck
Yipee! I just got a couple of JR's new 790 rxs from the brown truck. Very easy to set up, PCM, and tiny with end block connectors. Just what I've been wanting. I slapped one in my new 2 meter Duck (with conventional tail - thanks Larry!) and will try to see if it works tomorrow. Being a JR product I'm betting that it will work pretty well. Those of you who are looking for a really GREAT 2 meter should get hold of Larry Storie and get a Duck. But remember that good things are worth waiting for, getting one between now and the Nats might be tough unless you are willing to make it worth Larry's trouble. The Duck comes ready to pop the servos in and fly. It's delivered the closest to finished of any plane I ever had, and that's saying a lot. I've flown it a few times and it's a sheer joy. It even looks funky, always an added bonus. Those who say that 2 meters suck are missing something. They are different. They don't have the same L/D, granted. But my unlimited ships don't have near the roll rate of a 2 meter. The silly things are a lot of fun. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Looking for a 2-M
Not unobtainable, but you need to know who to talk to and not be in a big hurry. DucksRule! Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:00:50 -0500From: S Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]I see a Duck commercial here. The most touted un-obtainable plane made.SteveSOARLSF IV Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Re: AMA Soaring Nats Reminders
I'd wondered why I was getting so consternated lately. I was thinking that I just needed some more fiber in my diet. It's all better now. Thanks Tom. From: Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks like I gave my Registrar a bum steer and we haven't been keeping AMA appraised of the current entries ... my bad. The official registrations are on the LSF website as LSF controls entries for frequency allocations. See the latest at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Nats2006.html We'll get this sorted out quickly, please accept my apologies for any confusion and/or consternation it may have caused. But since we're talkikng about it, at the same link you can get to a Soaring Nats registration form and come join us for late July in Muncie. Registrations for the AMA/LSF Soaring Nats must be postmarked not later than June 1st to give the Matrix Magician time to work his magic. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago)
[RCSE] Re: Initial CG on a scratch ship...
Brent - If it was me I'd put the initial cg 3 inches aft of the leading edge. That might be pretty close to neutral. If you want it a bit more stable you'd go forward to suit. It'll be interesting to see where we all guess, if the plane survives the first flight, and who was right. happy trails - Rob Glover From: "Douglas, Brent" Just trying to get a rough idea where to start here, what formula youmight use to come up with a starting CG Picture a 200 inch wing,root chord about 11 inches, tip about 5, straight leading edge, taperingTE.Modern airfoil, HQ 2.5, 12 - 10 percent thick. My thought was to gomid span, take some percentage of the chord there, then mark the rootthat far back - example: 30% of 8" becomes 2.4 inches - mark the rootat 2.4 inches from the leading edge. =202 questions - how far off is that logic, how far off is 30%? =20I'm towing this ship for the first flight, so I'd like to be prettyclose, erring to the nose heavy side.Thanks!Brent
[RCSE] Re: Winch motor timing
Allan - Rotating the end cap into the direction ofshaft rotation advances the timing. As to how far you need to advance it, that's your call. It isdependant on your style, what king of planes you fly, winch drum diameter, how much string you keep on the spool, battery condition, and what direction the wind is blowing.Personally I keep mine just a couple degrees advanced from the stock setting. My brushes and windings last pretty well. I can still throw an Icon to the moon. I am giving up a bit of line speed and getting a bitmore torque by retarding the timing a bit from a more advanced setting. One thing to watch for is battery and wiring problems. If the voltage to the motor is reduced for any reason it will stall more easily, overheat quicker, and start melting stuff. happy trails - Rob G I'm reinstalling "Real Balls" on all of our club winches and I would like to get a definitive answer as to how to advance/retard the timing on them. All of the links on the "Winch Doc" site are down,so any advice would be appreciated. I currently have one set-up with an Injoy motor that is so "hot" it melts the field leads in half. It does however give you some really exciting launches ! Allan ParsonsOrlando Buzzards
Re: [RCSE] Re: Winch motor timing
It scares me that Skip from the frozen wastelands of the north can actually understand andcompetently translate bubbaspeak. He may be some kind of Yankee spy! Bubba-Original Message-From: RaschowTo: AMA3655; Soaring@airage.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 1:12:08 PM Eastern Standard TimeSubject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Winch motor timing In a message dated 3/28/2006 9:06:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rotating the end cap into the direction ofshaft rotation advances the timing. As to how far you need to advance it, that's your call. Just to make it very clear, what Rob means by "INTO the direction of shaft rotation" is "OPPOSITE the direction of shaft rotation", both statements meaning the opposite of "IN the direction ofshaft rotation" (which retards timing)- bubbaspeak can be very subtle!. I was advised back when that 6 -8 degrees advance was about right, YMMV. On no account do you want to retard timing, the current goes upa lot. I found all this out on the occasion of reversing a motor to accommodate adding abrake set-up. Good Lift!
[RCSE] Supra7385
Sounds like the Supra may not be designed to withstand arrested landings. Hard to retrain a Naval Aviator. So tell me Captain, was it the three wire? Maybe if you hung a hook off the back of the plane it'd work better. Bubba
Re: [RCSE] Re: Winch motor timing
Well shut my mouth. I stand corrected. I am indeed sorry to have accused a True Southern Gentleman of being a scurrilous yankee, please accept my humble apologies!-Original Message-From: RaschowTo: AMA3655; Soaring@airage.comSent: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 3:22:35 PM Eastern Standard TimeSubject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Winch motor timing In a message dated 3/28/2006 2:40:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:It scares me that Skip from the frozen wastelands of the north can actually understand and competently translate bubbaspeak. He may be some kind of Yankee spy!Born at Maxwell (ARMY Air Corps) Field, Alabama, now reside (as a ret. Colonel, USA) in Virginia (Suh!). Good Lift!
[RCSE] digital angle finders
If you guys really think you need one of these here's a fun search string. smarttool digital angle finder They can be had for around $90 happy trails - Rob G
[RCSE] Soaring Meisters: was Re:TX RF output?
SnippedFrom: John Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll probably be checking radio's at the LSF Soaring Masters to = keep this from happening. John John - Obviously I missed the memo, or maybe somebody is trying to keep me out of this loop (wouldn't be the first time). But, where and when are the Soaring Masters, and what will the event entail? I might just need to have my transmitter checked. Bubba - whose new bicycles have made him very tired and sore. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Robert L Scott
Cool story Chuck. Makes me want to get a copy of the book and read it. happy trails - Rob Glover Tonight, I found that Robert L. Scott, the author of God Is My Copilot, just died. He was one of my heros that I got to meet, even if only for a few minutes. The following is a story about meeting him that I wrote a couple of years ago. Chuck Anderson
[RCSE] Supra Question
I really hate to interrupt the discussion on who was the first to invent the radio (my vote goes to Nikola Tesla) but I have a question for the Supra owners out there. Would anybody care to hazard a guess as to what the combined weight of their battery and ballast is? If you are flying with some super light tail, foam filled tail boom, or way forward CG this info would be less useful to me. Thanks for the bandwidth, you may return to the rant of the day now. Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re:charging Li-po batteries
I never have figured out why the Alpha 4 lovers are so darned loyal, but that's OK. Battery chargers aren't anything but a fancy power supply, but some are indeed shiny and more user friendly than others. I have a Ginzel Spectra that will charge any battery pack I've ever had, if you push the right buttons. From teeny tiny 3 cell DLG packs to my 3 bank marine lead acid monster in the bass boat, the Ginzel can do the deed. NiCd, NiMH, LiPo, Lead Acid, whatever. BUT, with a LiPo battery pushing the wrong buttons can be pretty ugly. Accordingly, I also got a dedicated LiPo charger to do those with. I always remove the pack from the airframe and charge it in a safe spot. Indoors that means an old ammo can or fire safe. Happy trails - Rob Glover--Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:38:48 -1000From: "glide" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: soaring@airage.comSubject: RE: [RCSE] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]The Alpha 4 is a great concept but as mentioned, it is quite old technology.But I'm wondering why hasn't other manufacturers hasn't come out with anAlpha 4 killer? How about a battery maintenance system that will work withall types of batteries and have four or more outputs like the Alpha 4? Isthis basic concept of the Alpha 4 proprietary? I have all the differentrechargeable batteries that are utilized in R/C from NiCad's, nimh, lipos,to wet gel cells. An Orbit charger does charge all these batteries BUT hasonly one output. I don't like the OEM slow chargers because they don'tswitch to trickle charge when the batteries are fully charged.I hope that my Alpha 4 lives a while longer but I wish that a manufacturerwould develop a new battery maintenance system that has all what the Litcocharger has and then some. Also, this new system should be mass producedwithout the ordering restrictions Litco puts on their Alpha 4.Aloha to all on RCSE.Al Battad - AMA #506981
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7005
Chuck has it made in more ways than you know. If Martha (aka Dragon Lady) drives him cross country he has to ride in her new AMG Mercedes hardtop convertible. If he has to go in his old car it's a VERY cherry classic 'Vette that would make any male human drool all over the Tennesee Vol orange leather seats. You think that a pickle is a distraction? happy trails - Bubba ps - let's all send a candygram to OFB Sieb who is healing up after suffering a detached retina. In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:03:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My copilot always handled the radios and my wife does the talking on the cellphone. :-) Boy, you have it made. :-) Actually, my wife times for me sometimes. Bill Bill Grenoble LSF 7558 IV Hawksnest Soaring Shermans Dale, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Attention LSF members
Mr Deck - My profound thanks for your years of service to the soaring community. You have hung in through some hard times that would have beaten a lesser mortal. I owe you a very dark beer next time we meet. You'll never be just plain. Rob Glover From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Subject: Attention LSF members Aspirants As you now know from Tom's announcement, Bill Rakozy will be taking over as LSF Secretary this month. With this note, I'm: - Telling you to be patient with the voucher turn-around for the next few weeks. Bill I are meeting mid-month to accomplish the transfer. I'll do my best to turn the vouchers I receive until then as rapidly as possible and I sure Bill will ramp up quickly. - Asking you to give Bill the same co-operation and encouragement you have given me over the past four years. I'm sure Bill will appreciate neat, legible vouchers every bit as much as I have. -Thanking all of the LSF officers, members, and aspirants for making my terms as LSF Secretary a most pleasant experience. Respectfully submitted by your former LSF Secretary who is now just plain, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring Masters and Woodies
BWAHAHAHA! There are enough of us qualified to enter that event that we'd go over the 150 pilot limit! What about a class where the plane has to be 'Muncie corn field weather aged, then Daryl will be flying with Mark and his friends!!! Happy New Year to all. Peter B. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio
YeeHaw! Where do I sign up? LSF V's go to the head of the line if they are flying JR? Bubba is ready!Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:00:59 -0600From: "John Diniz" Well folks, time to block out your vacation days for Sept 21-24, 2006. =I'm pleased to announce the 1st annual LSF Soaring Masters to be held at =the AMA site in Muncie, In. Please see the press release below. There =will be a website up in the coming weeks that will have more info on =registration and sponsorship opportunities. Cash payouts for the top =five finishers and trophies through tenth as well as many product =give-away opportunities for the rest of the field.Stay tuned to RCSE for more updatesThanks,John
[RCSE] Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to All, and to All a Happy Trails. from Rob Glover - who got to spend an especially wonderfulday with 4 generations of family.Ask me about my granddaughters :-)
[RCSE] Contact info for Josh Glaab
Does anybody have an email address for Josh Glaab? thanks - Rob Glover
[RCSE] I got it - thanks!
Thanks for Josh's address. Happy trails - Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6569
Ken - I'm old enough (and have flown toy planes long enough) that I should know this...but I forgot. How many wires go to the servos? If it's 3 then you can still use them. If it's 5 then you need to retire them. Even if the answer is 3 then you wouldn't want to use them for the elevator on your Supra or Icon. If you have an Oly 99 or Genital Lady then they would be WAY COOL. happy trails - Bubba In a message dated 10/21/2005 6:47:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Found a box of Kraft radio gear packed away years ago in one of my military moves. Series73 through Series78 stuff. Now flying Futaba Super-7. Are any of the servo's (11's, 12,s, 14's and a couple of micro's I don't have a clue what model # is) compatible with a plug change or should I just put the whole mess up for grabs in a F/S forum or out on Ebay? I don't have an interest in upgrading the TX or RX's or any desire to operate as is on the dark side. Thanks, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Calling for F3J and TD contests
A really good timer/caller will take care of the necessary things for a pilot. A good timer/caller will know what his/her pilot requires. If a good goat is needed the timer/caller will find the goat. If a good beer is needed that will also be provided. Sometimes a good swift kick in the ass is deserved/needed, a good timer/caller can do that as well. happy trails -- Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: V-Tail
Dave you are creeping me out here. Bella Abzug? Justin - V or cruciform (neat word, huh?) tails both work well if properly designed, trimmed well, and flown well. V tails are harder for some designers that aren't used to them, and they require more effort to trim out well. There may be some weight or efficiency benefits for a V tail, but they aren't enough for me to detect in the air. I've given up on them because they are a bitch to pack. happy trails - Rob GloverJustin,For us old geezers, it kinda comes down to a choice between ogling Kathy Ireland or Bella Abzug.- Dave R
[RCSE] Re:LSF4 Goal
Gourdhead - Way to go Bubba. Now it's time to slow down and savour the experience. Remember that the trip is worth more than the destination. happy trails - another Bubba RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Futaba Transmitter Synthesizer
Just bought one of the new Futaba Synthesizer for my Super 8 transmitter. Someone told me that there units use additiontal power from the battery pack and it would be a good idea to upgrade my pack. They do seem to generate more heat than a standard module. Any one have and answer or opinon? Thanks, Ron Ron - Sounds like it would be a pretty nice feature during those winter fishing trips down here in Alabama. You could use it to keep your hands warm. The last rf module I had that did that was an old Airtronics one. Somebody told me that an rf module was supposed to put out rf energy, which is a different wavelength than heat energy. Guess somebody at Futaba must have got a little mixed up. My newer JR and Multiplex 'mitters don't seem to put out much heat. I leave 'em at home when I go fishing. Heck, my Evo will transmit for 8 or 9 hours on the stock battery, but it won't warm your hands up at all. What's up with that? Hope you bums all have fun up in Lexington this weekend. Say hello to El Grande for me. Bubba RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: US F3J Team Selection Standings
Looks like throw out rounds still stink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: bad chatter problem
Brent - A good diagnostic tool for this can be a hand held vibratory engraver. Power the system up and touch the receiver case with the vibrator. If it turns you on then you need to find a new hobby. If the system goes nuts then start checking further - replace the crystal, try it again, etc. I would bet that it isn't a battery problem in this case. happy trails- Rob Glover SNIPI'm thinking it's probably a bad board / crystal or a loose solderjoint, but that battery pack is a wildcard to me - anyone?Thanks,Brent
[RCSE] Nats championship intensity
Yep, I admit it. I go to the Nats for one reason. I'm there to have fun. Flying toy gliders at contests is fun, hanging out with my many friends is fun, drinking the occasional beer is fun. Sitting ina chair while flying RES at the Nats is fun.Winning trophies is fun too, near as I recall (it's been a while, but Cheesy Woman says I have enough anyway). Fun fly? I laugh at the concept. Intensity? I gave up on being a stress puppy a while back. There have been times in my life when"intensity" was appropriate, but toy airplane contests don't seem to be a good reason to get "intense" to me. If you want intensity join theArmy and go to Iraq. If you're lucky they might even let you play with toy planes, in a very intense and competitive way. happy trails - Rob Glover
Re: [RCSE] Nats championship intensity
Jim Thomas landed while sitting on the ground one round. Cal is right - sitting down makes flying/landing harder. Happy trails - Rob Glover In a message dated 8/8/2005 8:06:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey I would be happy if all sit in chairs. I would not feel lonely being the only one. Bet they were not in chairs when they landed. I would like to see all do that. I might all of a sudden look competitive. Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Nats
Well, summer camp is over for this summer and it was great as always. The AMA site continues to get better each year as inprovements are made. The changes are becoming minor as time goes on and there are fewer things that need to be fixed. This is really a nice place to fly large RC soaring events. The contest administrationcontinues to be awesome. An army of LSF volunteers run the contest, with site support from the AMA.From Soaring Event Director Marc Gellart tothe shortest cart driver (she needed a couple of 2 by 4's strapped to the gas pedal on thegolf cart to reach) this is the best and most effective group of volunteer workers I've ever encountered.We're not worthy. We go to Muncie to fly. If you take enough planes and spend the entire week you get to fly a bunch. Muncie is notorious for interesting weather. If you stay the week you will generally get to fly in some no brainer air, and some air that will humble the best pilots among us. This year was no exception. We saw weather that was hotter than humans enjoy, and a couple of days of perfect cool clear air. Every day saw periods of great lift and periods that slammed everybody. That's what makes man on man soaring challenging and rewarding. The pilot that makes the right decisions immediately gets rewarded. Everybody else loses. For the first time in my memory the winning planes were all built by their pilots, andat least partiallydesigned by the pilot as well. The ESL guys swept the top places. The ESL has been a wellspring of design and fabrication innovations for several years, and now their finishes are showing that the piloting skills areexcellent as well. So what planes did the best? Just like always, it was the plane that was put into the right air and landed well. It's still the pilot that wins. For some of us the most important part of the week at soaring summer camp is the social part. The folks you meet at Muncie are a lot of fun and keep coming back. There is an ever growing bunch of folks who wouldn't miss this week for anything. I always make a couple new friends at Muncie, and get to see a bunch of old friends. We all get to fly together and hoist a tankard of ale at the end of the day. It just don't get no better than that in this Bubba's opinion. happy trails (and hilsen to Jo)- Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6101
Daryl Perkins wrote: What is everyone soaking their mono in? TIA D Beer. PreferablyArrogant Bastard. Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: One full day of RES
Great Idea. RES is way much fun. Rob Glover From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I think it would be cool if the RES competition could have an entire day to itself at Nats next year. Anyone else here think that would be a good idea? Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Need, winch line source info !
That would be Memphis Net and Twine. Google 'em up, that's where we all get our winch line by the pound. happy trails - Rob Glover We need a source for braided nylon winch line. We'd like to buy in bulk the cheapest and strongest, money can buy. Please help a stuggling young club with struggling old flyers. Thanks, Ron Widel
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6010
In a message dated 7/16/2005 4:10:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:15 -0400From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: rcse soaring@airage.comSubject: Backup Stylus needed at the NatsMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]My primary Stylus just gave up on the lithium battery.I am hoping that Airtronics can service it and ship it to me at the Nats.In case they don't and my backup does the same... (battery is the same age)Does anyone have a backup that they can lend if it does give up on me and Airtronics doesn't get it back to me in time?I have batteries and modules...and antenna.-- Jeff Steifel Jeff - I have a retired Stylus that will probably still work. I haven't used it in a couple years, let me know if you need it and I'll charge it and see if it still works. see you next week - Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6001
I'll take care of the Duct tape. I'm stayin away from Steve's Goat though. I met a really nice Goat in Bavaria... RobOkay who's bringing the Duct Tape? :-)At 07:03 PM 7/14/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Even I will be there :-)GordyRochester NY tonite
[RCSE] Das Goat
I say the Goat should supply the seegars Who's bringing the cigars? At 08:44 AM 7/15/2005, Steve Meyer wrote: A Beer drinking goat?! Always nice to be able share a cigar and a beer with friends. :-) Picking out some fine select micro brews. Steve At 06:44 AM 7/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll take care of the Duct tape. I'm stayin away from Steve's Goat though. I met a really nice Goat in Bavaria... Rob Okay who's bringing the Duct Tape? :-) At 07:03 PM 7/14/2005, mailto:GordySoar%40aol.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even I will be there :-) Gordy Rochester NY tonite
[RCSE] nats BBQ
Joe - Bubba hopes to be in attendance for the festivities. Let me know if I can bring anything (within reason - I'm not bringin the goat) to help out. happy trails - Rob Gloverjust a quick check.all those in for Friday..all those in for Saturdayjust trying to get a check before I order the goods. Thanks to all for CoHosting the BashJC, JM. JB. JS, Shel,Dana,et all
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
...and I wish I had that kind of analytical capability, and the time thing too, and maybe I should practice landings but no, I'm gonna spend a week and a half in Bavaria drinking beer and visiting castles, monasteries, museums, and breweries. See Y'all at the Nats. I'll be entered in everything except hand launch. No threat to the contenders, but I do have fun. If you don't know me yet come by and say howdy to Bubba. If you fly toy planes we'll probably get along. happy trails - Bubba In a message dated 6/28/2005 6:44:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Good Lord, I wish I had this kind of time... ;-) Dana Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?
Ed - If yourshark tooth and skeg are large drag producers something is wrong.Try aligning the skinnyaxis of the skeg with the flight path of the airplane. I'll gladly give up any drag the skarks tooth generates for the landing points they generate. happy trails - Rob Glover You know it's kind of funny. We spend all this time trying to build the cleanest plane possible with internal linkages and as little drag as possible trying to get that last bit of performance. Then we strap on the large drag inducers know as skegs to stop us on landing. What's wrong with this picture? :-)Ed Franz
[RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?
I like bottom driven flaps and ailerons for various reasons. According to Dr. Hepperle a properly faired set of 4 linkages on the bottom of a wing add around 3% total drag to a typical F3B airframe. You can go dig around his website and find a number of interesting tidbits. _http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/index.htm_ (http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/index.htm) happy trails - Rob Glover hi all, I've been asked this a few times, and I give my opinion, but i want to see what you guys have to say. What gets better mechanical advantage, top or bottom driven linkage, and how much does the drag of bottom driven really effect things, if any ? My vote goes towards bottom driven. I can always get the throws I want, easy to set up and adjust, and gives a solid control surface. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Mid-South question
Jim - You are right, my feeble brain had blocked out the F3whatever events. Must be some sort of reaction to too many rules. Any event that has more rules than I can remember I tend to throw up mental blocks. I hope that my teammates will be understanding up in Muncie. Jim - I might come to Chicago for beer, and definitely for hospitality,but you probably wouldn't get me up there for an event that doesn't allow skegs unless I had already had a few beers... Happy trails to Mid South this weekend - with my skags - Bubba Brother Bubba, you must have certainly forgot about F3J and F3B... and of course if you ever were to make the journey to Chicago for our Fred Fredrickson memorial contest (OVSS MoM), you would be landing SKAG-less on a F3J tape. (TK likes the term skag). And enjoying our major league hospitality of course... 8-) (I'd have to stock up on exotic beers weeks in advance if he really would make the trip up)
[RCSE] Re: Mid-South question
TK - Y'all (Youse guys) are starting to make this sound like fun, but am I still invited ifno dorks are allowed? Usually wherever I go becomes a dorkfest, whether I fly or not. When is the Fred anyway? Will the temperature be above freezing, and will the wind ever drop below 20 knots? I spent a couple months up at Great Lakes way back and I never saw the ground. There was some kind of grey frozen crap everywhere. Wind was blowing like stink. I remember chill factors of 80 below while I was out pounding pavement at Navy Pier. I don't know how y'all (youse guys) stand it. happy trails - Bubba Bubba, you need to come to our Fred contest. Long task times and F3J landing tapes without SKAGS, SKEGS or landing arrestors of any kind. We run a FLYING contest, not a dork-fest. Just for you, you MAY fly your planes with skegs ... but they must be mounted on the top of the fuse, and inverted landings score a ZERO landing :-0 tk
[RCSE] Re: JR Service rocks ?
I find it really strange that a company as honest and supportive would be so crude as to claim that they service rocks. Heck I don't even know what the heck kind of service rocks need. I have yet to see a charge plug on a rock, much less be concerned about their polarity. Are you guys sure you have the right company? I did a google and wasn't able to find a company call JR that has anything to do with rocks. Mystified in Louisville. Gordy Gordy - I got a rock for you. See ya in Atlanta. Rob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Mid-South question
In a message dated 6/19/2005 9:01:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, Allan/Tara writes: Could someone in the know post a definitive answer as to whether skegs(yes the dreaded S word) will be allowed at the contest.I'd rather grind them off now instead of an hour before the first round. Allan Orlando Buzzards The Mid South has always been skeg friendly in the past. I haven't heard of any contest that didn't allow them other than Nostalgia class events. Most contests definitely don't allow you to slide through the landing zone and hit people, so I'd say that some sort of landing arrestor is a good idea. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Service rocks
I did a dumb thing the other day and plugged the wrong set of charge cables into my 9303 transmitter. I found out that this can damage more than the fuse. Thanks to John Diniz and the JR Service Department for a very quick turnaround on the repair. I gave the Tx to UPS on Monday and got it back from UPS on Friday, during the busy season. I appreciate the good support. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Profi 4000 for sale
Near new Profi 400 for sale. $750 shipped CONUS. thanks for the bandwidth - Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: Contest Eligibility Rule
If the club wants to do this I suppose that they can. Folks should be aware that the LSF rules state that contests with restricted entries are not allowed to be used to fulfill LSF task requirements. happy trails - Rob Glover The one and only local soaring club has ruled that any pilot who lives within 100Km who wishes to compete in their local advertised contest, must first join their club. Has anyone else heard of this before? Although this has little merit, the membership fee last year was $40, now it is $100 (the dues were raised to offset cutting grass). Does this seem right to exclude locals (who may be members of other clubs)? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Why try and pretend that a toy plane is the same as full scale anyway? If you want to fly something that looks like a full scale sailplane then go to the full scale airport and take a ride. Scale...sheesh. happy trails - Rob the sites to experience is "Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin"..i don't get the vertical tow, thought this was scale ? we should make this a F3b day. :-)dh
[RCSE] Tullahoma report
Yep, Chuck's new channel checkin gadget works as advertised. Even when I tried to fool him by doing my idgit glider pilot imitation. Looks like a great toy for the price. Sounds like Gordy would have had more fun at Tullahoma than the F3J gig. We had beeeyoootiful!! weather and great air. Standard laid back Tullahoma contest, with a lot of great folks I've known for a long time. Tullahoma had the first glider contest that I attended, back in 1971. They are still doing it, something must be right. There were a couple patches of sink, but for the most part everybody got their times and landing scores picked who won a trophy. Back for more today. happy trails - Rob Glover I used the Channel Checker to verify the channel number of all transmitters at the Airfoilers 35th Annual Sailplane contest. All checked OK with two exceptions. I noted that one transmitter illuminated several diodes when the antenna was almost touching the Channel Checker. The transmitter checked good when the antenna was moved a foot away. Not all transmitters affected the Channel Checker this way. Made me wonder if that was swamping or was the transmitter that illuminated more than one diode at close range was splattering a little. Something I want to investigate if I run into it again while not rushed by trying to get a contest under way. Bubba brought his transmitter over to be checked with the Channel 12 pin clipped to the antenna. Channel Checker showed that the transmitter was on Channel 58. I ask Bubba if this was one of those dial-a-crash transmitters. He said this was a crystal controlled transmitter and pulled the RF module to show me. On the inside was a channel 58 label. Bubba was having a little fun. Incidentally this was the Bubba of BubbaDancer fame also known as Rob Glover. Chuck Anderson PS. Bubba also had the Channel 58 pin when he brought his transmitter over to be checked. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re:F3J is not for me...or my Pikes :-(
Gordy - F3whatever can be frustrating and expensive. They are great events, but you really need to be ...committed. Sorry to hear that you had a less that optimal event. OTOH, we all had a great time in Tullahoma flying RES and Unl in flat air with Chuckie, Kendall, Flyin Brian, Herbie, the Clevelands, the Hotlanta guys, and a cast of thousands (or at least several). It's not every day I get to share air with Royce Salmon, and I cherish the opportunity. The best part of soaring competition is that guys who are seasoned still show up and give us the pleasure of their company. Include guys like Ron Swinehart, Russ Behr, Rex Powell, it's just too good to miss. My thrill for the day was when Martha let me drive her Mercedes SLK AMG. 0-60 in under 4 seconds, and great comfort is a hoot. Very tight and flat in the corners, well polished. She got the car that she deserves. Chuckie still hasn't let me drive his old 'Vette, so I'm gonna have to keep going back for more. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Thanks CSS, Steve S. and Mark Gellart
Ditto what Chip and others have been saying about the Cincinnati contest last weekend. Challenging conditions, a very well run event, and good times with friends old and new. I think that this has been the first time I've ever flown in Cincinnati when it wasn't freezing cold, justcool. happy trails - Rob Glover
[RCSE] Bozo finally gets a good plane
It's about time Bozo got a plane that can be flown by a single pilot. He usually has those planes that take three people to fly. Next thing you know he might decide that toy planes are fun. happy trails - Rob Glover
Re: [RCSE] OVSS and Line Breaks
Sounds like the arguments have reached the natural conclusion that we must allhave our own standardized winches, and fly a slot time. In other words, F3j with F3b winches. For those who love the chase of ever more and better rules the F3x events are the place to be. For those who just want to fly and have some fun there is American style TD,warts and all. Pick yer poison. happy trails - Rob Glover.
[RCSE] Re: OVSS
15 minute task times? Many rounds? Marc you big meanie! I only want to fly 7 minutesand a couple rounds. Leaves a lot more time for napping and beer drinking (AFTER the last round only, of course)with friends. This is a clear case of CD abuse. I say that we the pilots form a union and go on strike! See you Friday evening - Rob Glover Use to, when our contests were smaller, bringing down the group was not really an issue,but now with 25-40 fliers and very long task times (13-15 minutes all day) we hustle to have as many rounds as we can get in. Marc
[RCSE] Re: Receiver Malfunctions after Contact with Power Lines
Jojo - Be careful. It's too late for us to try and find a new teammate for F3j at the Nats. Happy trails - Rob Glover Not the same but anyhow... I am lucky to be alive. After a F3F competition last weekend Helge Borchert (German pilot) flew his Crossfire (flew nice btw..) and suddenly shouted for no contact. He went down far behind and while I flew a prototype Taifun my friend Espen asked if I heard a strange sound? I could not hear anything but a few minutes later while I was landing I heard the sparkling sound and it came from MY antenna on my JR 9303 radio (borrowed from Horizon hobbies for Nats). Holy macarony it was a thunderstorm building up and it was lightning around us. The electricity made me and my antenna a good ground object to go for so I landed immediately. Just after the landing a tornado formed after a big bang and Helge came back with his radio saying: Modell 1 wurden verandert... It had gone crazy by the sparkling electricity. Crazy Pictures: http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/804open/mc24.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/804open/tornado.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/804open/tornado2.jpg Tornados (atleast big enough to take some beachhouses this one) is very rare in Norway... Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re:OVSS
Bubba hopes to be in attendance for the Cincinnati event. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: What's in a case, or a case for no case
So now I gotta put my transmitters in their Pelican cases (yes, I have several), and wrap the Pelican cases in a towel before I tossthem in the truck. I feel safer already. happy trails - Rob
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5546
Cameron - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=129 for a very thorough discussion on the pros and cons of LiPo. They are good stuff, but be careful with them. Get a good charger and pay attention when you use them. I use an Astro 109 and charge the batteries in an ammocan when I do so indoors. They are capable of releasing a lot of energy in an unplanned fashion. happy trails - Rob Glover In a message dated 4/24/2005 11:12:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:22:33 -0400From: "Cameron" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "RCSE" soaring@airage.comSubject: Info on lithium-polymer batteries???I am hearing a lot of talk about lithium-polymer batteries, but I don't knowmuch about them. What is the real info with lithium-polymer batteries? Canthey be used to replace either Tx or Rx Ni-Cd battery packs for RCapplications? Can lithium-polymer batteries handle hi current drawapplications? Does lithium-polymer discharge over extended periods of timelike Ni-Cd batteries? Does lithium-polymer deteriorate in capacity (andstorage) as the ambient temperature increases?In advance, thank you for the info.Cameron Ninham
Re: [RCSE] Mylar Hinge Tape Sources?
Unfortunately your Google search missed the best source of hinge tape. Try Don Richmond at Hilaunch.com happy trails - Rob Glover In a message dated 4/24/2005 9:10:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Here's what I found this morning:New Creations RChttp://www.newcreations-rc.com/http://www.newcreations-rc.com/ProductList.aspx?searchtxt=Mylar%20Hinge%20Tapeselection=searchSoaring Stuffhttp://www.soaringstuff.com/http://www.soaringstuff.com/order.htmlSoaring Specialtieshttp://www.soaringspecialties.com/http://www.soaringspecialties.com/hingetapegapsealant.shtml// Dave
[RCSE] Re:mantis - for Herr Philmeister
Man PrettyTis? Manly Mantis? Das Plane? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re:[RCSE] Stealing someone else's AMA #
You guys want a real AMA#? Go out and get it the old fashioned ways. Like Chuck - live long and prosper. Along the way, attain a cherry first owner classic 'Vette, get your spouse an AMG 'Cedes, all the awards you could ever hope for from your peers, and the planes you deserve. Kudos to you. Like me and Cal P - earn the level V and pay for it - Cal has LSFV, I have V100. to paraphrase old buddy Phil the Final Bozo - You get the number you deserve. Kilgore Trout RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?
Bruce - According to the AMA, who has to sign off on the insurance papers,it is a valid measure of interfield interference. After having participated in the process I also think that it's valid. You might want to check out the procedural documentation before you reject it out of hand. AMA document535-F outlines the procedures and may be downloaded from the AMA website if you are a member of the AMA. happy trails - Rob Glover -Original Message-From: Bruce DeVisser [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.comSent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:01:24 -0800Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch? Hi Rob, Your test with a glitch counter is not a vaild measure of interference, unless the model carrying ithas been calibrated in a "clean environment", like a radio test chamber, and the area under test has been profiled across the user'sfrequency band. I've had hundreds of glitches recorded on calibrated devices and not seen a single twitch from the plane. FYI... Bruce DeVisser
[RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?
Fact: It is very unlikely anyone flying a mile away is adversely affecting anyone at your field, irregardless of the frequency. Remember...the receiver would need to see on-frequency RF that is equal or greater from the offending transmitter to gain control. The above statement is unfortunately incorrect. I used to think the same way, but I have had my mind changed. We (North Alabama Silent Fliers) unfortunately lost our field due to construction recently. In an effort to find a new field we tried to move to a nice spot that is around 2.5 miles from an existing RC site. We borrowed a small glitch counter from the AMA (thanks to Steve Kaluf) and went trhough the procedures outlined by AMA to test for interference between the two sites. Testing was done with a .25 sized trainer aircraft, flown pretty far out but not near as far out as I've flown an unlimited glider. The "interfering" transmitter easily registered at the airplane from the distant (prospective) field. sorry to burst anybody's bubble, Rob Glover
[RCSE] Re: Programming tricks help
George - I also match the flap and ailerons for all flight modes. The 30%-50% mix applies to the flaps when they track aileron control inputs. This is a handling issue. All of this stuff is somewhat specific to the type of plane and varies somewhat for the same plane in different flight modes. Most of the mixes and presets are tweaked to gain better handling characteristics. I'll rely the designer of the plane to tell me the proper camber settings for speed, thermal, and cruise. Most everything else is adjusted to suit my personal desires, giving my plane the handling characteristics that I'm looking for. We need to realize that glider control setup and trimming involves efficiency and handling. The efficiency stuff is somewhat specific for a particular design. The handling stuff is somewhat specific for a particular pilot. happy trails - Rob Glover From: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Michael Lachowski' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com I was privy to a discussion between Joe Wurts and Jim Frickie a few years ago. The discussion concerned the position of flaps and ailerons during launch. Joe stated the flaps and ailerons should droop the same amount to reduce the drag between the interfering surfaces. It seems the same would hold true for the thermal mode. Shouldn't the flap and ailerons move the same amount to keep drag to a minimum where the flap and aileron meet? George -Original Message- From: Michael Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Programming tricks help The other mix I often find missing is using the flaps as ailerons. The flaps should be moving with the ailerons at 30-50% of the aileron travel. If you get the ailerons and flaps moving together and put in elevator to camber mixing, you will be amazed at how much nicer your model flies. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Retreiver bicycle sprocket
Jim - The flat wrench is called a cone wrench. You will need a pair of cone wrenches to properly tighten the bearinglocknuts on a typical bike wheel hub. Any good bike shop should have parts to rebuild the hub that you have. If they laugh at you head out the door and go findthe good shop in town. My brother owns a bike shop,he takes great pride in his collection of old pieces and parts. happy trails - Rob Glover Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:53:00 -0500 From: James R MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, on saturday we checked out the equipment and the retreiver bicycle sprocket bail was broke! This is a Rham retreiver which has given us good service for about five years. No problem I think. Just go down to Bob's bicycle shop and buy a new one. Oops. They laugh and say where did you get that old timer! Some time later, the new sprocket bearing is ready with their help and some luck looking in the back of some of their junk drawers. We are OK for now. Where do you go to get an old time front sprocket or at least some new ball bearings to rebuild the sprocket? And the 9/16 " thin open end wrench needed to tighten the locking nuts. Advice and thoughts appreciated. Jim MacLean, Melbourne, FL
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5359
Jack - "New Style Ford Solenoid" is probably a pretty meaningless phrase to most auto parts counter clerks. Try asking for a "LargeDuck in Blue Lederhosen."You still won't get what you want, but at least you'll get a laugh out of it. Try finding a Cole Hersee 24037 solenoid. Better yet, get two and wire them in series.I never could figure out why some folks spend many hours and/or big bucks on a sailplane and then trusted a single $6 solenoid not to arc and weld itself closed. happy trails - Rob Glover From: Jack Harper Someone mentioned that the "New Style Ford Solenoid" is very reliable and long lasting.I went to the Auto Supply Store and asked for a "New Style Ford Solenoid" and they did not know what I was talking about.Does anyone know the part number (or the vehicle model) for the solenoid that "New Style Ford Solenoid" refers to?Thanks.
[RCSE] Re: Tungsten Ballast
Walter - You say it's an alloy. Do you know what the tungsten is alloyed with? There are some tungsten alloys that have been specifically formulated to be easily machined, your bar may be some of that. Get yourself a good hacksaw blade, chuck that sucker in a vise and try it out. If the tools you have available won't cut it then find a machinist with some cobalt bits. If you don't know somebody send me the bar and I can cut it, but I'll probably have to keep the "scraps" :-) The post office is gonna love it. happy trails - Rob Glover I have some 3/4 inch heavy tunsten alloy stock I need to cut. Do I have to have a machine shop cut it or is it possible to cut it at home with Thanks, Walter
Re: [RCSE] Re: Tungsten Ballast
Bruce - Sounds like your guy wasn't using the sharpest tool in the box. happy trails - Rob Glover Dear ballasting buddies, I built for a Sharon Pro 3.7 which everyone that has held or owned one knows has the skinniest fuselage known to man.a tungsten ballast system that loaded under the wing via a small opening into a carbon fiber tube. I got the machineable tungsten round rod which is approximately 97% as heavy as pure tungsten and tried to cut it into small sections on my Atlas 6 lathe..not a chance in hell that was gonna happen. A club members father worked at an aerospace lab doing prototype machining and his father tackled the machinable tungsten and 5 hours later had it cut into nice 2 oz. chunks..cant imagine how much it would have cost if I had to pay the regular rate. All said and done the Sharon could ballast up an additional 1.85 lbs. over minimum weight and if I had to pay the going price the ballast system probably would have ran an additional $400 for materials and machining. My $.02 BCNU Bruce Hobbs -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:07 PMTo: Soaring@airage.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] Re: Tungsten Ballast Walter - You say it's an alloy. Do you know what the tungsten is alloyed with? There are some tungsten alloys that have been specifically formulated to be easily machined, your bar may be some of that. Get yourself a good hacksaw blade, chuck that sucker in a vise and try it out. If the tools you have available won't cut it then find a machinist with some cobalt bits. If you don't know somebody send me the bar and I can cut it, but I'll probably have to keep the "scraps" :-) The post office is gonna love it. happy trails - Rob Glover I have some 3/4 inch heavy tunsten alloy stock I need to cut. Do I have tohave a machine shop cut it or is it possible to cut it at home withThanks, Walter
[RCSE] Re:Profi Multiplex 4000
HI, OK, time to get a new transmitter for the gliders so I looked at the Multiplex EVO 12 Synthesized unit. Then I find out that the mixer function and control layout are Global and any change in one model, changes all models ? Scratch that one off the search, so now who sells the Profi Multiplex 4000 and do you have them in stock ??? Winston in Walla Walla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Winston - I went down the same path some time ago. I have a Profi I'll make you a good deal on. It's like new, and I'll throw in a neck strap. There's nothing else like it. Heck, I'll even make you a good deal on an Evo. Oh yeah, I have a used Stylus you could talk me out of also. They're all great radios, but I've found that I don't need them anymore. They are for sale because I found the JR9303. happy trails - Rob Glover - proprietor of the basement toy plane museum that needs to rotate some stock. Please help me, I have a problem. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Who's mailing in LSF Forms for level completion before the end of...
Relax, everyone. I got Gordy's form this morning and ALL was in order. He's now officially a Level III. Jim Deck Secretary, LSF Thank goodness. The LSF is saved! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Plus the fact that a rare earth magnet is fairly dense. I bet that a piece of tape is significantly lighter than the rare earth magnets that would replace as a wing retainer. All in all rare earth magnets are a brilliant misapplication of technology in this instance. On the other hand, rare earth magnets would make dandy nose weights. If you are trying to stop the nose of the plane close to a big steel nail happy trails - Rob Glover From: Bill Swingle Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re:Winch Line
Bruce - I've bought a lot of winch line over a long time span from Memphis Net and Twine. There have been a couple times over the years that I've gotten a bad batch of line. It's rare, but it does happen. You can usually spot a bad piece of line if you look and feel close. The bad line I have gotten has had spots in it that had obviously been hot - you could feel and see the line had been melted a little bit here and there. If you can see this in a new spool of line call the company and let them know, they will probably take care of you. And be sure to check your equipment - a bad turnaround will do the same thing. I've also managed to string the turnaround upside down, that will eat line in a hurry. happy trails - Rob G From: Bruce Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Myself and our club have purchased 270-290# nylon braided line from Memphis Twine previously. We have experienced line breaks quite often on a smooth field within 3-6 months of the new line installation. This is without Icons and Sharons doing banzai launches! When I purchased my Rahm winch new, the line Mr. Rahm sent with the winch did not break more than once or twice within the first two years and was used more often then than now. I have heard that line available in some of the Scandinavian countries is more durable and lasts longer..possibly refined and improved from exposure to the extensive fishing industry that many of these countries have? If any of you know of a line that is better. reasonable priced..and available..I'd love to hear about it. JoJo..that is your neck of the woods if you are reading this. TIA!! BCNU Bruce Hobbs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Halfway there!
http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/ Yipee! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: AMA DVD and coin
Yeah, I got it as well. I guess that makes us special because they said they only sent it to special people. As luck would ave it I'd heard what the deal was so I never even opened mine. The propaganda that came with it mentioned Dave Brown's name. I've been contemplating returning it to Dave. If he gets enough of them maybe he will think twice about selling our names to marketers. Like Jim, I'm not terribly upset by the deal. But I'm also not too inclined to worry about them getting their merchandise back. Old Flyin Buddy Red Scholefield used to have a good tactic for this kind of stuff. He'd shuffle all the documentation that came with the first free book of the encyclopedia set into the prepaid return envelope and drop it in the mailbox. Don't sign anything or check any boxes. When the new books come put them on the shelf and use them. When the bills come throw them away - for a while. When the bills continue to come and start to get threatening, send a reply. The reply should state that the merchandise was never requested, and will not be paid for. The merchandise can be returned to the vendor for $$ storage, $$ handling, and $$ shipping. Usually they go away. Works great. An endless supply of great graduation gifts for that favorite nephew. happy trails - Rob Glover Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Winch solonoid kit
S - Cal Posthuma is selling the kits. Try calplsf (CalPosthumaLeagueofSilentFlight) instead of calplsa. And its asolenoid, not solonoid. The spelling police are watching you. In a message dated 2/15/2005 6:05:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:20:43 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "rc Soaring Exchange" Soaring@airage.comSubject: Winch solonoid kitMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]I sent a paypal payment to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/15/05 for a electronic assembly that lets you know when a winch solonoid is bad. For some reason, the money was returned to Paypal.Who was selling the kit? I still want one.Thanks,S Gibson
[RCSE] annual 2 meter diatribe
I like to fly 2 meter planes. They are indeed a bit less efficient, but they have a much better roll rate. The bottom line is that they are FUN TO FLY, just like my Icon, and my Ava, and my Photon, and my Tensor. I fly for FUN and 2 meters are FUN. You can do stupid tricks with them that an unlimited plane will bite you on. Anybody who says that they don't like 2 meter planes is a big weenie who needs to get a life, except for Mark Howard. I've already picked on Mark enough in the past so I'll cut him some slack on this matter. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] What's your favorite contest/gathering format?
John - For me, 3 days of unlimited TD on a nice piece of sodwould bethe best. MOM for sure. Find a CD who will keep things moving, and vary the task times to keep the pilots on their toes. 10 ft landing tapes are fine, over 3 days of flying the scores will sort without resorting to crazy landing tasks. If you do have fly off rounds then keep the previous scores, and no throw outs. The location would depend a little bit on what time of year. In general I think that the Midwest is best, and move north or south to catch some decent weather at whatever time of year you fly. Proximity to good motels, food, and travel connections is also key. The main thing is getting to fly and visit with old flying buddies. happy trails - Rob Glover OK Soaring addicts,If you had 3-days of soaring to determine a sailplane "National =Champion", what format/format's would you like to see? Where would this =contest be located, and what would make you attend? Do you even want to =compete, or would you just like to come and fly with your buds? Or just =watch the best the US has to offer battle it out for cash, trophy =bragging rights? Thoughts? I'm looking for constructive input.Thanks,John
[RCSE] Re: Yet Another Servo ?
Jim - At some time in the past the Airtronics servo had a spot in my planes. Once upon a time it was worth paying extra to get a 141 because it was the only servo that had metal gears, high torque, and compact size. All of these factors made it a great wing servo 10 years ago. Today that is not the same. They do occupy a space in my servo pantheon - but the space is at the bottom rear of a drawer that hasen't been opened for many years. If I were more ambitous I'd clean the drawer out and be done with them. JR servos are the king of my servo heirarchy today. I get them locally if available, otherwise I get them from Johnny Berlin. happy trails- Rob Glover 1. Where do Airtronics servos fit into the pantheon of servos? 2. Are there other mail order/web dealers that sell JR servos besides Horizon Hobby? -- Jim -- Oklahoma AMA, TULSOAR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: 9303 question
The 770 RX is a dandy. Nice and small with good connector layout. It's about the same size as a SuperSlim if you are familiar with that. The transmitter is not configurable to mode 1 last I heard. There was talk that this would be changed at some time in the future. I'd ask the guys at Horizon about this. Yes, the transmitter will transmit standard PPM mode if you want it to. Happy trails - Rob G Some questions about the new JR radio: Is the R700 and /or R770 receiver of a form factor conducive to the usual 3 meter sailplane fuse dimensions? Can the TX be easily converted by the user to Mode one operation? (mode one is elevator and rudder on the left stick) My present Futaba 8UAX makes the conversion very simple. I have owned transmitters which were very difficult to convert. Can the transmitter operate in a standard FM mode such as would be compatable with a normal FM receiver? Yes, I know the shift polarity does not match Futaba and Hitec but on 50 MHz band they are all the same so I plan on continuing to use my collection of FMA and Futaba receivers. I may have to reorder the servo connections however. Many thanks, Jim MacLean Melbourne, FL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Ballast ??
Walter - I think that you'll break your press before you compress any tungsten. It's pretty hard stuff. Have you checked with CMW in Indianapolis? They are a company that specializes in tungsten alloys for uses like ballast. You don't really want pure tungsten, get one of their alloys with a couple percent copper and nickel so you can machine it. There are other metals that are even heavier than tungsten, but they start getting expensive and in some cases dangerous. happy trails - Rob Glover Thanks for the response. Several brought up a good point saying after you mix powder w/epoxy/etc you may not gain much over lead which may be right. How about opinions on an idea I had. Get some brass tube, silver braze a brass plate(thin) on to one end, grind it down to the contour of the tube. I have a hydraulic press. I was thinking about the pouring some powder into the open end of tube I prepared, compress it down with the press, add some more powder, press it down, etc, etc til I fill the tube, I would then seal the end with some filler, or could even, providing the tungsten doesnt react to heat, just braze a end cap on it like I did to the opposite end. What do you think? Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: I'm LSF 3 and you're not!....sort of, almost:-)
Joe - Shoot me your mailing address and I'll send you a stamp so you can get the level 4 voucher. I hate to see you lagging due to the lack of a stamp. happy trails - Rob So where are you on level 3? Gordy Form filled out completely, never sent in... the last signature was in 1979. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Majestic 110 RES from Laser Arts
Dan - I built and flew one a few years ago. It's a very nice kit and a pretty good flying plane. The mods previously noted are probably a good idea, but I flew mine without them and enjoyed it. You can blow it up on a winch if you have a heavy foot, but if you excersize a nominal amount of restraint it will do fine. Happy trails - Rob Glover Fellow fliers, I'm looking to build a RES ship to fly in our local club contests. While doing a Google search, I ran across the Majestic 110 RES from Laser Arts. Question: has anyone had any experience with this kit - pros or cons? Flying characteristics? ThanksDan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Dry up spilled CA??
Brian - You can kick the CA off with some baking soda. Dump a box of Arm and Hammer on the spill and you will have instant concrete. Rent a jackhammer to bust it out of the cupboard. happy trails - Rob Glover Folks I'm very allergic to CA fumes..I do keep a 2 oz bottle in my cupboard to use OUTSIDE in front of a fan... (Foolish I know) Lately I have been suffering the worst cold and cold symptoms I have ever had... This evening while looking in my cupboard I discovered I have accidentally knocked over my CA bottle..The lid came off and 1/2 the bottle of CA has seeped out all over my cupboard...I have been breathing these fume for a couple hours each evening and thinking I had the worst cold of my life... Now that I have discovered this, what is the best way to delute, dry it up, clean it up?? Any ideas.?? I'll have to go to Lowes and get a respirator to wear while trying to clean it up..I have had to get out of there till I can clean it up with out breathing any more fumes..It is CA+ and is very sticky and still damp and putting off plenty of fumes.. Thanks for any ideas...Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Glider Bag choices
You guys have some pretty pricey taste in bags. I always got along pretty well with a good old black Hefty. Sometimes you gotta be careful when you stuff the remains of your plane in one, the broken off ends of the spars can poke holes in them. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Glider Bag choices
I get them in the large boxes. I need 'em. Whenever I finish a new plane I fold a hefty bag up neatly and tape it inside the fuselage. That way I have one handy when I need it. I wish I could find a really tiny shovel that would fit in the plane - it would save a trip back to the truck when I plant one really deep. I hate to leave a battery buried in the field, it ain't environmentally kerrect. happy trails - Rob In a message dated 12/16/2004 9:32:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, alwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Rob Al I sell those for .50 cents I call them crash bags! hehehehehehe Need some??? Cheers. Al Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw Realestate REALTOR- ASSOCIATE Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
Yeah, a good timer will do that. The biggest problem with the new brand F radio is that it comes from Futaba. I'll support them when they support RC soaring. happy trails -- RobG At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! G My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac
Jim - I haven't used shellac to do this, but I have achieved some pretty light finishes. I use hair spray for the initial coats. Get the cheapest large aerosal cans you can find. Fog a few sparse coats on, sanding very lightly with 400 grit between coats. You only need to knock down the stickups. If you keep the initial coats light and let them dry well you won't hurt a foam wing, and the weight buildup will be minimal. After you get the wood sealed with hairspray go ahead with the waterborn poly. I like to wipe it on with an old t shirt or a foam brush, keeping the coats thin and many. happy trails - Roob Glover As a woodworker I haven=B9t used but read about shellac as the sealer/under coat for wood finishes. Shellac is accepted as a good barrier against wate= r vapor, but not liquid water, and any finish will stick to it well. So I thought it might be a very good under or only coat for balsa tail parts on HLG=B9s etc. Don Stackhouse of DJ Aerotech describes the use of water born (not a solvent in this case) polyurethane and that care must be taken to ge= t a very thin first later coats. One reason for that would be the fact tha= t wood so readily absorbs water then changing it=B9s dimensions due to swelling of the wood fibers. Don's main goal seems to be to limit weight added though. Have any of you tried shellac, which uses alcohol as its solvent? I am wondering if a 3 pound cut, for example, would penetrate less than a 1 poun= d cut. [Shellac is mixed as x pounds of flakes to 1 gallon of alcohol. N.B. you must use de-waxed shellac if you intend to over coat it with any other finish.] --=20 Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re:All flying vertical stab...
In Then there's the agony of deciding whether to put the rudder on the right side or the left side of the boom... Cool - this thread should keep some of us occupied through the new year. I say right side in the heartlands and left side in Boston and San Fransisco. happy trails - Rob G RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Icon wiring harnesses
To quote Barry Anderson - I must be nuts getting in the middle of this. But this is no surprise to those of you who know me. What some of you may not know is that I have also piddled with wiring harnesses through the years as a small part of my job. Don Peters just sent me a new Icon, to replace one that I stuffed through pure stupidity. He asked me if I would like a really light one, the answer seemed obvious as I already had a medium one. He delivered a very light one, as promised. Very skinny paint. He goes to a lot of trouble to wring the last few grams out of a plane, and I appreciate it. I've had Icons with both the old and new style harness. They are both very competently done, and both robust. They are also both heavy. This is a good thing when it comes to wire - copper is heavy, and when you pay for good wire you get what you pay for by weight to a certain extent. But alas, not exactly what I wanted in a very light plane. Long story short, I put the plane on a copper diet. It was pretty easy to remove a couple ounces from the Icon harness, and still have a harness that should work. I didn't modify an existing harness, I started over. I could have taken more weight out, but hopefully I stopped short starting a fire when I pull the flap stick back. Is it still robust? I think so, and time will tell. Will I build any more for other people? No. Will I tell you what I did? If you have to ask then it would not be prudent. Is my Icon lighter than yours? Yes, I'd bet that it is. Will an Icon that weighs 69 ounces fly better than one that weighs 72 ounces? It will if I put it in the right piece of air, at the right speed. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
