Re: [RCSE] Help
Jerry do you need help getting off dialup? I know its an adictive technology with all the beepwschrchhh beeebong beebong tszz but seriously man just call a broadband provider. As for the exchange it appears to be working On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jerry Shape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this will get out or not but I thought I would give this a shot. I have not got a post off the exchange for the last couple of weeks and don't know why. If anyone can help me drop me a note. I need to get off dail up. Thanks Jerry
Re: [RCSE] Help Need Screw Size for Pike Perfect Center Panel
Michael, The front bolt is 25 mm or 1 inch long, same diameter pitch as the rear. Ron Mong - Original Message - From: michael morjoseph To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: [RCSE] Help Need Screw Size for Pike Perfect Center Panel Ok just got my Pike Perfect all Tuned up and took off the wing Bolts for the Center Section and forgot to put them back in the Fuse Anyways I did find the Rear Bolt so I know the Size of the Thread I do need to know the size of the Front Bolt is it about 1 inch long?? I do have a nice local hardware store in my Center were I work so I can pick one up or maybe a spare also.. if you email me how long the thread is for the Front Bolt thanks Mike.M Pike Perfect Newbie -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
RE: [RCSE] HELP!!! flying in and out of thermals and thermal turns.
I have posted four articles on our club web site that are related to locating and flying thermals. To read/download them go to www.flyvam.com Click on 'Downloads' and scroll down to 'Training Topics'. Regards, Bob Johnson Fond du Lac, WI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] HELP!!! flying in and out of thermals and thermal turns.
Thanks for the info guys. I went out with my photon today and had a blast. I used to worry about being in the air for 30 seconds, now I can get a minute easy with the photon in still no lift air. I tried some of the suggestions like guaging each quarter of the turn, and while it helped I am STILL not that smooth on the sticks. The good thing is that I see improvement. It REALLY is about stick time... Jay On 10/10/06, Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted four articles on our club web site that are related tolocating and flying thermals. To read/download them go to www.flyvam.com Click on 'Downloads' and scroll down to 'Training Topics'.Regards,Bob JohnsonFond du Lac, WIRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] HELP!!! flying in and out of thermals and thermal turns.
Jay, first off, as soon as you notice that you are in a thermal, start turning. Then figure out which side of the turn is better. Don't fly thru it and try to get back, you may not always be able to. Also you are probably on an edge when you see it, or in the core if it is light and you only noticed it when it really indicated. TURN... How to figure out which side is better. alti drop/ gain, sluggish control usually means sink, but may also mean booming thermal that you can't turn in (rare here in the east). Don't fly straight to correct, just oblong the turn in the better direction. You will stay with the thermal this way without loosing track of it. Guys that straighten out and try to come back often lose the thermal. If you are in a small thermal with a DLG turn tight, a big ship will depend on the amount of lift, sometimes you can't turn that tight so you would fly flat to get the most lift and fly in and out to get bumped up OR go find a better thermal. If it is booming and small a big ship can be put on a wing tip. Then gradually open it up. When your plane is climbing nicely and you have power all around you have probably cored the thermal. If it is not smooth all the way around you are on the edge or gowing in and out of the center of the thermal... and therefore it isn't cored. I'm sure others will chime in. Jay Hunter wrote: First off I am flying a photon II R/E dlg. No flaps, no camber mode, just simple RE poly... I am not sure if anyone can help me but I have been flying through thermals. I have progressed to point where I can tell I just flew through a thermal, and I can circle and fly BACK into the thermal, but I can not figure out how big the thermal is and I can see the plane 'falling' out of the thermal. Any thoughts on how to gauge the size of a thermal, so I know how tight to turn? Also any tips on doing thermal turns so that the circles are tight and so I don't stall then speed up, then stall then speed up. Thanks for any help you can offer... Jay -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] HELP!!! flying in and out of thermals and thermal turns.
Congratulations. The first part is noticing you have lift. There is a diagram in the lower part of this page that visualizes what Jeff was saying. http://www.quicktechhobby.com/articles/thermal_surfing%20part%202.htm The first one in the series is: http://www.quicktechhobby.com/articles/thermal_surfing%20part%201.htm These are oversimpified representations of thermals. In general you wil always have to re-core the thermal, so always look for where the plane is going up the fastest (or coming down the slowest) and try to stay in that air. I sometimes reverse my circle if I find that I am skirting the side. By this, I mean that. If I am circling left, and notice that the plane is sinking on the left, when I get to the right side, I will start circling to the right. I still try to read these once a year to remind myself of what I am looking for and seeing. The only thing I will add is to be objective when circling. The hardest thing for me is to recognize when I am not in lift and should stop circling. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring club soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] HELP!!! flying in and out of thermals and thermal turns. Jay, first off, as soon as you notice that you are in a thermal, start turning. Then figure out which side of the turn is better. Don't fly thru it and try to get back, you may not always be able to. Also you are probably on an edge when you see it, or in the core if it is light and you only noticed it when it really indicated. TURN... How to figure out which side is better. alti drop/ gain, sluggish control usually means sink, but may also mean booming thermal that you can't turn in (rare here in the east). Don't fly straight to correct, just oblong the turn in the better direction. You will stay with the thermal this way without loosing track of it. Guys that straighten out and try to come back often lose the thermal. If you are in a small thermal with a DLG turn tight, a big ship will depend on the amount of lift, sometimes you can't turn that tight so you would fly flat to get the most lift and fly in and out to get bumped up OR go find a better thermal. If it is booming and small a big ship can be put on a wing tip. Then gradually open it up. When your plane is climbing nicely and you have power all around you have probably cored the thermal. If it is not smooth all the way around you are on the edge or gowing in and out of the center of the thermal... and therefore it isn't cored. I'm sure others will chime in. Jay Hunter wrote: First off I am flying a photon II R/E dlg. No flaps, no camber mode, just simple RE poly... I am not sure if anyone can help me but I have been flying through thermals. I have progressed to point where I can tell I just flew through a thermal, and I can circle and fly BACK into the thermal, but I can not figure out how big the thermal is and I can see the plane 'falling' out of the thermal. Any thoughts on how to gauge the size of a thermal, so I know how tight to turn? Also any tips on doing thermal turns so that the circles are tight and so I don't stall then speed up, then stall then speed up. Thanks for any help you can offer... Jay -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Help in Hawaii
I think we call that high class problems around here... Hope you get some video, would love to see it! Good luck, Brent *currently building a Higgins CA Sloper that would love to make that rip, er trip. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help to sign up
Ed, Make sure you are putting just the word subscribe in the very first line of the body of the email and at the left most point of that line. You do not need any other verbiage in the email. When you get the verification email that ask you to send the four lines of test back, just hit the reply button and then send and do nothing else. If what I just said does not work then you will need help from one of the moderators. See Ya, Pat - Original Message - From: Ed Berris To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: [RCSE] Help to sign up I'm trying to subscribe using a new e-mail address but I can't seem to find the secret code that lets me do that. I am sending my request to: soaring-request@airage.com I'm not placing a subject in the subject line but I have tried the following in the body of the message: 1. subscribe 2. subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither of these were accepted so I can't figure out what I need to do differently. Any help will be appreciated. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Help to sign up
In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:38:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither of these were accepted so I can't figure out what I need to do differently. Make sure you send in plain text (not richtext or html). Good Lift! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help !! ...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: I signed up for this list and am getting everything in the individual e-mail mode ... I'd like to get a Digest if possible ... Any suggestions ?? ... To get the digest you must subscribe to the list using the digest option. My suggestion would be to unsubscribe from the list and then re-subscribe in digest mode. Unsubscribe: Send email to soaring-request@airage.com with 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes) in the first line of the message Subscribe Digest: Send email to soaring-request@airage.com with 'subscribe soaring digest' (without the quotes) as the first line of the message. Instructions for this can be found at http://www.eclipse.net/~mike/rcse/intro.digest.htm RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
It's an Aguila Grande ? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
Sorry Vince I read 127 not 12' 7. 12' 7 would make it an Aguila XL John -Original Message- From: Vince Herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:49 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane Sorry if this turns out to be a duplicate. I posted using the web page yesterday and the message did not show up. I am trying to post through email this time. I recently purchased several large sailplanes from a friend of a friend. The lot originated from a pilot who had passed away. I want to gather information on the sailplanes before I start playing with them, but I do not recognize one of them. The Bird of Time is easy to recognize, and the book that came with the Mystery Ship makes ID easy. But the third sailplane is unknown to me. It has a 12'7 wingspan, RES, fiberglass fuse. Pictures available here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3582.JPG http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3588.JPG I can take more pictures or answer any questions on the model to help. Thanks in advance. Vince p.s. To see the whole mess piled up in my garage, alone with the transmitter, histarts, a NIB Bird of Time kit and a 2 meter Spirit that I got from another club member, go here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/ I think I got a good deal. :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
Thanks to all who responded. After getting the Aquila name, I was able to direct my research online. The Grande has a WS of a bit over 120. The XL has 150, so it looks like I have the XL. I did get to do some test flights this weekend. I launched it with the histart for my 2 meter ships. I did not get much altitude, about 50 or 60 feet, but it was enough to make some beautiful circuits around the field. I have thicker tubing designed for heavier ships, but I need to get some line to attach to it. Again, thanks for the help. I'll start a new thread to ask questions about the Mystery Ship and the BoT. Vince __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
Vince, I have the Grande version I was gonna say the XL but others beat me to it. I also use a hi-start on, you need a lot of pull to launch these birds. I usually feel a good 20 lbs to 30 lbs pull or walk about 90 paces on my old deluxe high start. Don -Original Message- From: Vince Herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:51 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane Thanks to all who responded. After getting the Aquila name, I was able to direct my research online. The Grande has a WS of a bit over 120. The XL has 150, so it looks like I have the XL. I did get to do some test flights this weekend. I launched it with the histart for my 2 meter ships. I did not get much altitude, about 50 or 60 feet, but it was enough to make some beautiful circuits around the field. I have thicker tubing designed for heavier ships, but I need to get some line to attach to it. Again, thanks for the help. I'll start a new thread to ask questions about the Mystery Ship and the BoT. Vince __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
Vince, Looks like your unknown sailplane is a nicely finished Aquila XL. I'm envious... John Hayes - Original Message - From: Vince Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane I recently purchased several large sailplanes from a friend of a friend. The lot originated from a pilot who had passed away. I want to gather information on the sailplanes before I start playing with them, but I do not recognize one of them. The Bird of Time is easy to recognize, and the book that came with the Mystery Ship makes ID easy. But the third sailplane is unknown to me. It has a 12'7 wingspan, RES, fiberglass fuse. Pictures available here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3582.JPG http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3588.JPG I can take more pictures or answer any questions on the model to help. Thanks in advance. Vince p.s. To see the whole mess piled up in my garage, alone with the transmitter, histarts, a NIB Bird of Time kit and a 2 meter Spirit that I got from another club member, go here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/ I think I got a good deal. :) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil
Glauco, You will need to divide all of the numbers by 100 and arrange them from TE (1., 0.), over the top (positive numbers) to the LE (0., 0.), then under the bottom (negative numbers) back to the TE. Obviously, the regional settings will be very important. The site you picked has the , as a decimal separator. Make sure your software is either region aware, or you use the correct separator. I believe I have all of the .dat files at home. I will send you one later, if it was in the airfoil pack from TraCFoil. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - From: Glauco Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil Guys, I put some wrinkles on my airplane wing and need to check the airfoil before starting the sanding block work. The airfoil is an HQ/W - 3,5/8 and the coordinates can be found here http://www.hq-modellflug.de/koordinatenframe.htm I want to plot the airfoil on Compufoil or TraCFoil but don't know how to turn those coordinates into something readable by the softwares. I know how to make .dat files but the coordinates are not the usual 1. 0.XX. Thanks, Glauco RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil
The coordinates appear to be in normal fashion, starting with the Trailing edge moving toward the LE. The 'Y' values are upper and lower. Compufoil should be able to handle it, but you might be able to put in a file (.dat) to make it easier. The 'X' values run from 100 to 0 %, just enter in reverse to go from 0 to 100. If you have a spreadsheet (Excel) you can enter, and scale to any size needed and even plot to see what it looks like. Most programs I have used accept values as: 0.000,0.000 1.000,0.100 100.000,0.000 for lower curve, and a similar list for the upper curve. .bcAG4YQ Williamsburg, VA On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Glauco Lago wrote: Guys, I put some wrinkles on my airplane wing and need to check the airfoil before starting the sanding block work. The airfoil is an HQ/W - 3,5/8 and the coordinates can be found here http://www.hq-modellflug.de/koordinatenframe.htm I want to plot the airfoil on Compufoil or TraCFoil but don't know how to turn those coordinates into something readable by the softwares. I know how to make .dat files but the coordinates are not the usual 1. 0.XX. Thanks, Glauco RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil
Hi all, I got it now. Didn't know that each column on Helmut's web site was for upper and lower surfaces. By the way this is not the HQ 3,5/8 but the HQ/W 3,5/8. They look similar but are not the same. Thanks everyone. Here are the W coordinates. 1 0 0.99114 0.00228 0.97553 0.00623 0.95241 0.01175 0.92216 0.0183 0.89508 0.02379 0.85355 0.03143 0.80645 0.03934 0.75452 0.04729 0.69857 0.05467 0.65451 0.05947 0.60907 0.06393 0.54705 0.06897 0.5 0.07163 0.45295 0.07326 0.40631 0.0739 0.34549 0.07361 0.30143 0.0726 0.24548 0.0697 0.19355 0.06504 0.14645 0.05848 0.10492 0.05022 0.0545 0.036 0.02447 0.02353 0.01204 0.01607 0.00616 0.01096 0.00222 0.00622 0.00099 0.00414 0.00054 0.00325 0.00025 0.00252 0.6 0.00178 0.6 -0.0004 0.00025 -0.00079 0.00054 -0.00137 0.00099 -0.00194 0.00222 -0.00285 0.00616 -0.00397 0.01204 -0.00493 0.02447 -0.00635 0.0545 -0.00809 0.10492 -0.00936 0.14645 -0.00937 0.19355 -0.00879 0.24548 -0.00805 0.30143 -0.00709 0.34549 -0.00626 0.40631 -0.00467 0.45295 -0.00331 0.5 -0.00172 0.54705 -0.6 0.60907 0.00272 0.65451 0.00482 0.69857 0.00681 0.75452 0.0088 0.80645 0.0096 0.85355 0.00951 0.89508 0.00859 0.92216 0.00738 0.95241 0.00529 0.97553 0.00357 0.99114 0.00116 1 0 Glauco On 8/9/05, Bill Conkling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coordinates appear to be in normal fashion, starting with the Trailing edge moving toward the LE. The 'Y' values are upper and lower. Compufoil should be able to handle it, but you might be able to put in a file (.dat) to make it easier. The 'X' values run from 100 to 0 %, just enter in reverse to go from 0 to 100. If you have a spreadsheet (Excel) you can enter, and scale to any size needed and even plot to see what it looks like. Most programs I have used accept values as: 0.000,0.000 1.000,0.100 100.000,0.000 for lower curve, and a similar list for the upper curve. .bcAG4YQ Williamsburg, VA On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Glauco Lago wrote: Guys, I put some wrinkles on my airplane wing and need to check the airfoil before starting the sanding block work. The airfoil is an HQ/W - 3,5/8 and the coordinates can be found here http://www.hq-modellflug.de/koordinatenframe.htm I want to plot the airfoil on Compufoil or TraCFoil but don't know how to turn those coordinates into something readable by the softwares. I know how to make .dat files but the coordinates are not the usual 1. 0.XX. Thanks, Glauco RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil
Wow Glauco, I've plotted this foil just to take a look at it. Gosh, it has quite a bit of camber! Are others flying foils with this much camber? It ought to be a floater for sure. By the way, if you can open an AutoCAD file, I could just send you the file. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help Plotting Airfoil
Well Bill, I don't know if I should tell what kind of floater is this but you would be amazed that I use even more camber on thermals. Maybe I should tell that Tom at F3X has some of these floaters and that Rudy Siegel won Cincinnati's contest this year with one. By the way, reflex takes care of all that camber. I got the foil now, thanks. Glauco On 8/9/05, Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow Glauco, I've plotted this foil just to take a look at it. Gosh, it has quite a bit of camber! Are others flying foils with this much camber? It ought to be a floater for sure. By the way, if you can open an AutoCAD file, I could just send you the file. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help with Futaba 8U (FF8) and 5 channel receiver needed.
The primary problem is that you need to activate the aileron differential function before the Butterfly, START and SPEED mixes will work on the aileron channel. A more complete answer is here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=396543 Phil - Original Message - From: Smiler [EMAIL PROTECTED], I've read and thought I understood all the other threads about using the Futaba 8 (not Super) with a 5 channel receiver, but I've still not got the thing working properly I've used GLID2FLP as recommended in Don's book. Channels 1 Left aileron 2 Elevator 4 Rudder 5 Right Flap PMIX 1 Ail-Rud 'On' Link 'Off' Trim 'Off' 2 Ail-CH5 'On' Link 'On' Trim 'On' 3 Rud-Ail 'On' Trim 'On' 4 Rud-Ch5 'On' Link 'Off' Trim 'Off' (As the rudder didn't move Ch5 even with PMIX 2) FLPTRM 'Inh' Ai-Dif 'Inh' (I've done the Ail Dif using ATV and Ch5 using the PMIX values) BFLY 'Switch A' Ail 55 FLP 100 Ele -10 Dly 10 ABK 75 FLP-Ail 'On' 'Null' (Changing values here doesn't do a thing) Ail-Flp 'On' -50 -100 'Null' Ele-Flp 'Inh' V-Tail 'Inh' Start Ail 15 Ele 20 FLP2 -15 FLP1 0 Speed Ail 15 Ele 0 Flp2 -15 Flp1 0 Right, the problems. When using BFLY only Ch5 operates the right aileron, nothing goes on with the Ch1 left aileeron, which is exactly what happens with both 'Start' and 'Speed' nothing on the Ch1 left aileron. Any ideas guys? (purlase!) This is driving me made as the BFLY shows Master to be CH3 which is throttle and slave to be channel 1, but changing the values doesn't do anything. Thanks, in anticipation. Steve RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] help on CF Wing rod carrier.
Rick, I made an Escape rod. (Would buy one next time). It has two holes. I had the polished rods 1 longer than the finished carbon rod and waxed them really well. I vacuum formed a mold from a wood plug the width and height of the wing rod I wanted so I wouldn't have too much sanding. It was the length of the aluminum rods. I poured in some epoxy and laid in a layer of carbon tow a bit thicker than what the finished thickness would be to make up for the epoxy , put in the rods, forced in the tow around the sides and middle and put a wet layer on top. I used West System epoxy. It takes some time to get the tow pressed in. I cut a piece of plastic slightly smaller than the mold opening and clamped everything to squish out as much epoxy as I could. Once cured, I cut back the carbon ends on my bandsaw to about the length I needed and put the rod in a vise and took a punch and pounded out the aluminum rods. Once they came loose they slipped out okay. Really dusty sanding until I got smart and wet sanded it with my palm sander in the sink. It finished nicely with 600 grit. I think combining glass and carbon might not be good or necessary. You don't want to have something weaker in spots. Just use the carbon tow. I also found out why they charge $40+ for one. You'll have to figure what 10+ hours of your time is worth (if you go to as much trouble as I did.) Solid rods, like tip rods on the Extreme and the ones for my SBXC, are much easier since you don't have to mess with an aluminum core. Just lay in the mold and squish About a half hour per rod. T - Original Message - From: Richard L Bothell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: [RCSE] help on CF Wing rod carrier. Please help. I want to make a rectangular wing rod and wing rod carrier for a new 130 inch wing. I have a piece of aluminum the exact size for my wing rod and I want to lay up layers of epoxie, glass, and carbon fiber around the aluminum. Then let it cure and take out the aluminum rectangular rod. I will wax the rod and most likely spray PVA on it before the layup. I will then use an Arizona hot box to cure it. For non-Arizonans, just put it in a garage and turn on the air conditioning to regulate the temperature. How do I remove the rectangular rod after the part has cured. I know people wrap thin mylar around tapered rods but I have never heard about rectangular rods. Thanks in Advance. Rick Bothell, Prescott Valley, AZ www.handsfreeretriever.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing?
In a message dated 5/3/2005 3:18:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sherman,In my case I am considering a large 4.5 meter (177) scale sailplane. Thesailplanes wing uses six servos three servos per side. The wing isdesigned for three servos per side. (I would prefer not using mechanicallinkages, and using software mixing instead.) Thus the wing servos wouldoperate L R flap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons.I would like the outboard ailerons to match the movement of the inboardailerons but possibly reduce the total travel of the outboard ailerons to60~80% travel compared to the inboard ailerons. Depending on the sailplanecharacteristics, e.g. adverse yaw, I may need to increase or reduce thepercentage of mixing and the ratio of movement between the outboard andinboard ailerons.Thank you,Cameron Ninham If you use all the dedicated mixes with the 9303, you have Three channels and nondedicated mixes available. It would be fairly simple to mix masteraileron to outboard aileron (Aux2?) and mirror image the same with right aileron. Soone mix for each side. that would allow you work those outboard ailerons, For the master, select Ail+. This means that the dual rate, expo rate and trim settings of the aileron are mirrored to the outboard aileron. For slave, use, I believe Aux2 and Aux3. Mixes would allow you to have these turn on or off or to two separate mix rates depending on switch location. I have not actually done this on an airplane yet, (dont have any 6 servo wings to experement on) Please let me know what you finally come up with or if you have nay feedback to my comments. I an courious to find out if the differential settings of the ailerons are transferred to the outboard ailerons. thanks again Sherman KnightThe Law Offices of Sherman L Knight5400 Carillon PointKirkland WA 98033425-576-4028 wk425-576-4029 fax425-822-9305 hm[EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
RE: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing?
Another way is to use a matchbox on the outer tiperons, which will allow you to accomplish what you want, plus use only one additional channel, plus give you the ability to mix the outer ailerons with various other control functions such as rudder for example, at the flick of a switch. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing? In a message dated 5/3/2005 3:18:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sherman, In my case I am considering a large 4.5 meter (177) scale sailplane. The sailplanes wing uses six servos three servos per side. The wing is designed for three servos per side. (I would prefer not using mechanical linkages, and using software mixing instead.) Thus the wing servos would operate L R flap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons. I would like the outboard ailerons to match the movement of the inboard ailerons but possibly reduce the total travel of the outboard ailerons to 60~80% travel compared to the inboard ailerons. Depending on the sailplane characteristics, e.g. adverse yaw, I may need to increase or reduce the percentage of mixing and the ratio of movement between the outboard and inboard ailerons. Thank you, Cameron Ninham If you use all the dedicated mixes with the 9303, you have Three channels and nondedicated mixes available. It would be fairly simple to mix masteraileron to outboard aileron (Aux2?) and mirror image the same with right aileron. Soone mix for each side. that would allow you work those outboard ailerons, For the master, select Ail+. This means that the dual rate, expo rate and trim settings of the aileron are mirrored to the outboard aileron. For slave, use, I believe Aux2 and Aux3. Mixes would allow you to have these turn on or off or to two separate mix rates depending on switch location. I have not actually done this on an airplane yet, (dont have any 6 servo wings to experement on) Please let me know what you finally come up with or if you have nay feedback to my comments. I an courious to find out if the differential settings of the ailerons are transferred to the outboard ailerons. thanks again Sherman Knight The Law Offices of Sherman L Knight 5400 Carillon Point Kirkland WA 98033 425-576-4028 wk 425-576-4029 fax 425-822-9305 hm [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
Re: [RCSE] Help - JR 347 Instruction manual *********
Khan, I don't know anything about your tranny, but I did find a manual www.dankitching.com/jrx347.pdf I'll leave it up for a couple of days, be sure to save it to your local PC/MAC. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I lost my manual for my JR 347. Is there online manual available or maybe a website with instructions? Basically, my gliders have 4 servos in the wing and two in the fuse. need to program in 3 different flight modes, plus elevator to flap camber, crow, etc. thank you in advance, davenport race is fast approaching and i need to dust off the racers I Khan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Help - JR 347 Instruction manual *********
I found this page on a search for Sherman Knight. http://www.reddata.com/sass/soaring_info/tech.htm Mark Soaring Is Life!! From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Help - JR 347 Instruction manual * Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:55:13 -0400 Khan, I don't know anything about your tranny, but I did find a manual www.dankitching.com/jrx347.pdf I'll leave it up for a couple of days, be sure to save it to your local PC/MAC. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I lost my manual for my JR 347. Is there online manual available or maybe a website with instructions? Basically, my gliders have 4 servos in the wing and two in the fuse. need to program in 3 different flight modes, plus elevator to flap camber, crow, etc. thank you in advance, davenport race is fast approaching and i need to dust off the racers I Khan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing?
In a message dated 5/3/2005 1:14:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not yet gone through the manual for the JR XP9303, but is it possible(simple/easy) to program the XP9303 radio for a six servo wing -- L Rflap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons???Can I setup the inboard and outboard ailerons to move by the same and/ordifferent amounts? The answer is yes. However that is a very incomplete answer. What do you want the outboard aileron to do? Sounds like a stupid question, but it is not. What do you want the outboard Ail to do in lunch mode? Cruise Mode? Thermal Mode? Landing mode? It is easy to get the tiperons to follow the ailerons. If that is all you want, then why have them servo driven? Mechanical connection is much lighter. So, until you figure out what you want them to do, there is no way to answer the question. Sherman KnightThe Law Offices of Sherman L Knight5400 Carillon PointKirkland WA 98033425-576-4028 wk425-576-4029 fax425-822-9305 hm[EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
RE: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing?
Sherman, In my case I am considering a large 4.5 meter (177) scale sailplane. The sailplanes wing uses six servos three servos per side. The wing is designed for three servos per side. (I would prefer not using mechanical linkages, and using software mixing instead.) Thus the wing servos would operate L R flap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons. I would like the outboard ailerons to match the movement of the inboard ailerons but possibly reduce the total travel of the outboard ailerons to 60~80% travel compared to the inboard ailerons. Depending on the sailplane characteristics, e.g. adverse yaw, I may need to increase or reduce the percentage of mixing and the ratio of movement between the outboard and inboard ailerons. Thank you, Cameron Ninham From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing? In a message dated 5/3/2005 1:14:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not yet gone through the manual for the JR XP9303, but is it possible (simple/easy) to program the XP9303 radio for a six servo wing -- L R flap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons??? Can I setup the inboard and outboard ailerons to move by the same and/or different amounts? The answer is yes. However that is a very incomplete answer. What do you want the outboard aileron to do? Sounds like a stupid question, but it is not. What do you want the outboard Ail to do in lunch mode? Cruise Mode? Thermal Mode? Landing mode? It is easy to get the tiperons to follow the ailerons. If that is all you want, then why have them servo driven? Mechanical connection is much lighter. So, until you figure out what you want them to do, there is no way to answer the question. Sherman Knight The Law Offices of Sherman L Knight 5400 Carillon Point Kirkland WA 98033 425-576-4028 wk 425-576-4029 fax 425-822-9305 hm [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing?
Another way if you want or have independent spoiler control with top mounted Schempp Hirth spoilers. Use the flaperon wing type mix and couple inboard flaps to ailerons 30% which is typical for scale ships, or up to 1:1 if you prefer. Program a slider to activate the flaps for landing as a proportional trimmer. Don't forget to decouple aileron flap mix in camber mode to prevent overdriving the flap servos when using landing flaps. Use the left flight mode switch for camber (or thermal flap}/ normal flight/ and Reflex. Now for the out board tiperons you have several options available as used on full scale sailplanes. I don't know what your model is so here are two examples I have used. On a DG -1000 tips are coupled to the rudder to prevent skidding in a turn and provide more rudder authority. Left rudder actuates the left tiperon up 40 degrees or so while the right tiperon stays neutral and visa versa. Alternately, you can couple this same function to the aileron (left aileron left tip up right tip neutral) and put the mix on a switch to change back and forth depending on your flight requirements at any given time. This will give you two distinct functions for the tiperons using only one channel. To do this you will need to purchase a JR Matchbox and program each tiperon using the matchbox and one channel, mixed then to either of the other two functions mentioned. The full scale Nimbus four uses this type of mixing also. This will allow the spoilers to be placed on the throttle stick where they belong as a glide path control device on landing similar to a throttle in a power plane. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:18 PM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] HELP: JR XP9303 setup with six servo wing? In a message dated 5/3/2005 1:14:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not yet gone through the manual for the JR XP9303, but is it possible (simple/easy) to program the XP9303 radio for a six servo wing -- L R flap, L R inboard aileron, and L R outboard/tip ailerons??? Can I setup the inboard and outboard ailerons to move by the same and/or different amounts? The answer is yes. However that is a very incomplete answer. What do you want the outboard aileron to do? Sounds like a stupid question, but it is not. What do you want the outboard Ail to do in lunch mode? Cruise Mode? Thermal Mode? Landing mode? It is easy to get the tiperons to follow the ailerons. If that is all you want, then why have them servo driven? Mechanical connection is much lighter. So, until you figure out what you want them to do, there is no way to answer the question. Sherman Knight The Law Offices of Sherman L Knight 5400 Carillon Point Kirkland WA 98033 425-576-4028 wk 425-576-4029 fax 425-822-9305 hm [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] help
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Re: [RCSE] Help identifying a glider
Opps, sorry, I was repsonding to a related, but different email.. disregard. -charles On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Dan Neelands wrote: All, Could someone please ID the glider shown at http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20%20145.jpg http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20%20149.jpg http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20142.JPG A guest at our field asked me about this and I'm not up on RES models. Thanks! Dan N. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help identifying a glider
It's an Electric Glider. RES does not allow power assist. At 08:14 AM 10/4/2004, Dan Neelands wrote: All, Could someone please ID the glider shown at http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20%20145.jpg http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20%20149.jpg http://www.rockisland.com/~neelands/9-4-2004%20142.JPG A guest at our field asked me about this and I'm not up on RES models. Thanks! Dan N.
Re: [RCSE] Help with a link for CNC service.
Eric Farmer can help you [EMAIL PROTECTED] TG http://adesigner.com 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 phone 540 943-3356 fax 540 943-4178 - Original Message - From: Scobie Puchtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: [RCSE] Help with a link for CNC service. Hello guys, Was it this list where someone had posted a link to an online cnc machining service? It was a website with a 3-D part design interface that let you design and loft a part, and then basically order that part to be machined and sent to you directly, made in whatever material you chose from a menu. I know there are plenty of 'part quote' CNC services, but this link was the closest I've ever seen to a one stop design-your-part-and-order-it-in-one-step type service. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Help with launch attitude - OR - What happened to me when I tried
Jim,
You are right..
Obviously more memorable for some, than others
J
At 12:15 PM 12/26/2003, James V. Bacus wrote:
At 07:38 AM 12/26/2003, Jack Strother wrote:
You are correct..it is a rite of passage, of some sort..
I remember Capn's rite of passage on his first F3J two man tow in
Muncie... Daryl ('move that freekin' hook all the way back') Perkins was
there, a new red Cobra was there, Johnny and the strongest towers at
Nats... an audience of the Nats pilots present... and a video camera.
ROFL
That's all I need to say,
Jim
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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RE: [RCSE] Help with launch attitude - OR - What happened to me when I tried
The tape was destroyed after we saw what we captured, we determined that this memory was only for the people who actually saw it happen live. Jack may tell you the story sometime, but it won't be on this forum! It's one of those things you have to be at Nats to understand, and I know you know what I mean when I say that. 8-)) At 03:12 PM 12/26/2003, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Where can I get a copy of that footage I just gotta see it!!! G Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help with launch attitude - throw the plane up or straight ahead
The 'right' answer to this question is really very pilot dependent. The horizontal launch method is where everyone should start as its the most forgiving for poor throws and incorrect plane setup. If you have any question about your ability (or a student's ability) to launch, the straight ahead horizontal throw is the most likely to succeed. Having said that we now can move on to more advanced techniques for those who have a good plane setup and good winch/highstart control. A more nose up attitude will rotate the plane quicker to vertical and leave more length in the line for the climb. The argument now is whether its better to stand on the pedal all the way up to get off the line fast and with speed or whether to pulse the winch and let the plane kite to altitude. Which is better I do not know. I do know how I do it and I'm happy. Extreme launches practiced in F3B and F3J are best left to the experts unless you just must have the ultimate. In both of these cases monofilament line is used which stores much more energy than our nylon winch line or any high start you'd care to pull back. In these cases the energy is stored just prior to release and the object is to maintain that stored energy until just before the moment the plane releases from the line so that the energy goes into the airplane as speed.. Therefore these launches are at very high angles of attack so that the wing provides maximum lift to retain the stored energy until the zoom. Launching is an art that requires excellent plane setup, a lot of experience and a lot of confidence. Each pilot has to use the technique that matches his skills and there is no 'one size fits all'. Hope this helps. Rick At 09:04 AM 12/24/2003, stuarthall_ct wrote: At RCUniverse, on the thread http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1296951/mpage_1/anchor/tm.htm#13740 22 there is a debate about whether to launch a plane with a throw horizontally, allowing the power of the winch and placement of the tow hook to rotate the plane, vs. launching the plane already rotated e.g. throw the plane upward. In the two contests I have been to where there were winches most often I saw people launching with effort with the plane already inclined upward. Some throwing the plane between 45 and 70 degrees from horizontal, many achieving what looked to be very respectable launches. In the interest of learning to launch correctly, rather than having to relearn, it being much more difficult to unlearn poor habits, I'd like to know the opinion of the RCSE crew. Thanks! p.s. this might be not applicable to me most of the time right now as I fly off a heavy duty histart with a 40 ounce 2M foamie Highlander and most often the plane gets virtually ripped from my hands regardless of how I throw anyway. I'd still like to know however. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help with launch attitude - throw the plane up or straight ahead
At the beginning of last season I forced myself to learn the latter (hold plane under/in front of wing saddle and throw upward). Much better launches and I feel more confident of the ability to recover from a broken line early in the launch. Tom - Original Message - From: stuarthall_ct [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 6:04 AM Subject: [RCSE] Help with launch attitude - throw the plane up or straight ahead there is a debate about whether to launch a plane with a throw horizontally, allowing the power of the winch and placement of the tow hook to rotate the plane, vs. launching the plane already rotated e.g. throw the plane upward. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] HELP ON Bob Martin's SR-7
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in hopes someone might be able to assist me! I am in need of a plan set, and the construction article of Bob Martin's SR-7. I am expecting to pay for a complete plan set. Your help would be appreciated Thanks, Keith I think I have a set of plans at the bottom of one pile or another. If I find it I could copy it and send it to you if that would help. Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help me help a new guy
Polecataero WindDancer. http://www.polecataero.com/ From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/30 Thu PM 12:01:59 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help me help a new guy I just received this email, can you guys help me steer this gentleman in the right direction for what he wants? It's been about 25+ years since I was putting Cox powerpods on my balsa built ups. 8-) (This guy wants ARF) Hi Jim, I saw your column in Model Aviation and am hoping you can recommend an ARF powered glider. I live in upstate New York and am in my second year with the RC hobby. I have a trainer and a Tower Kaos. My main interest is powered sport planes but I want to pick up a powered glider for relaxation (no aielerons is best for relaxing I am told). I am not interested right now in high start or slope soaring, just powering to altitude and soaring. I noticed the Kyosho Ciero, Great Planes Spectra, and the Thunder Tiger Windstar. Also looking at the 117 Bird of Time and adding a small glow engine. Thanks to your website link I see that Northeast Sailplanes has a ton of choices also. I would like at least a 78 wingspan. Thanks Jim for any ideas you may have. Mark Larsen Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Help me help a new guy
Why not a Hanger 9 electric Aspire? Great starter for powered soaring. Inexpensive and none of the mess you get with wet power. Fred RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Help with dead links
Andrew, Just checked those you listed, LaserArts, Major Hobbies, and EzCalc are working the others are not. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Andrew E. Mileski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help with dead links Going through my bookmark collection: http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/bkmks/ and I discovered these links appear dead: Bludartar http://www.bludartar.com/ Laser Artshttp://www.laserartco.com/ (geocities address works) Major Hobby http://www.majorhobby.com/ Sobox Planes http://www.soboxplanes.com/ ezCalchttp://custompaintjob.com/ezcalc/dma.asp Trojanhttp://www.trojan-battery.com/ If you know where they have moved, or if they have been removed, please let me know. Thanks. On a happy note, the following link was marked as dead the last time I checked, but is working again: http://www.fmsg-alling.de/vtail.htm An excellent page on V-tail aerodynamics. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help with dead links
Andrew E. Mileski wrote: Going through my bookmark collection: http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/bkmks/ and I discovered these links appear dead: Bludartar http://www.bludartar.com/ Laser Artshttp://www.laserartco.com/ (geocities address works) Major Hobby http://www.majorhobby.com/ Sobox Planes http://www.soboxplanes.com/ ezCalchttp://custompaintjob.com/ezcalc/dma.asp Trojanhttp://www.trojan-battery.com/ If you know where they have moved, or if they have been removed, please let me know. Thanks. It seems Laser Arts, Major Hobby, and Sobox Planes were temporarily unreachable for me, but are back now. EzCalc (electric motor calculator web app) and Trojan are still unreachable by me and several others. There was one report that Bludartar has closed up shop. Thanks to everyone for there help! -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re:[RCSE] Help with dead links
Soboxplanes.com is up Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] help with a hi start link
At 08:23 AM 1/19/03 -0700, you wrote: A while back there was a post about hi starts. Someone put out a link that had some info on figuring the pounds of pull needed for a given size a/c. If anyone remembers this, I'd appreciate the link. I've searched the archives and google just can't seem to find it. Hi Charlie, Responding on-line in case someone else might like to know - hope you don't mind. Rich Hollyday used to sell some really good hi-starts (I own one) and, although he doesn't anymore, still maintains his site with a lot of info on it. Try http://www.hollyday.com/rich/hd/sailplanes/high-starts.htm On the left under the flag are several areas of interest to select from and within some of them are links elsewhere. The one at the Charles River site is particularly good as is everything else there. Aerofoam picked up the hi-start line Rich used to carry - try http://www.aerofoam.com/hosemonster.html Hope this helps. RVC RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Help - 2A2FER(V-tail) Infinity 660
Been there - done that. NO - you CAN'T program it for flaps on 2 channels - read the manual! What you can do is get a servo reverser for the other flap and a Y-connector. Another thing you can't do - Have BOTH launch flaps and landing without using an alternate model and now HALF of your model memory for 2 of 4 models! To get launch flaps the BEST solution is to go ahead and use another model and set the flaps on that model in the launch position. Use the ALT MODEL switch to select that model for launch. When out of launch mode (ALT MODEL) the flaps are operated off the throttle lever as usual. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Winch.RP;forces.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help - 2A2FER(V-tail) Infinity 660 I can't find a way to activate the second flap! I can gang them together on the same channel but then I have to mount one of them asymmetrically (i.e. facing the same way). I really don't want to hack an larger hole in the wing to do this. Come on guys, somebody must have figured this out. Phil in Vancouver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Help - 2A2FER(V-tail) Infinity 660
I think that the new JR Matchbox will fix you right up. End point adjust and servo reversing plus some other features. Pricey, but better than having to cough up money for another TX. Available from Horizon Hobbies and other distributors for $69, if I recall correctly. Maxx Products has a wye adapter with a servo reverser built into one leg for about $15. That might work for you too. I'm in the same situation with a Futaba Super 7 and I'm trying the Maxx Products solution first. Regards, Ed Jett - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: [RCSE] Help - 2A2FER(V-tail) Infinity 660 I can't find a way to activate the second flap! I can gang them together on the same channel but then I have to mount one of them asymmetrically (i.e. facing the same way). I really don't want to hack an larger hole in the wing to do this. Come on guys, somebody must have figured this out. Phil in Vancouver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] help with my next plane.
see below Brian Stutters wrote: i'm looking to move up (or laterally) to another plane. my current spirit is not only fairly well destroyed, but has been a pain in the ass the entire way. I can understand that! Yuck! i want to stay in the 2m RES area, not the greatest idea as even a little larger is much nicer so i've been considering these options: snip c) nsp's kestrel 2m. seems nice enough and i like the idea of laser cut parts. I flew an early version or maybe it was a prototype and it flew very well. I haven't heard the greatest things about the quality of the kit. Isn't there a short kit of the Sagitta 600? A little obsolete in some sense, but a very nice flyer nonetheless, and you won't have the old problem of telling yours apart from the other 5 in the same thermal. If you build one keep the tail as light as you can and maybe reinforce the fuse just a tad around the front of the fin. If I was in that market I might be tempted to try a Laser Arts Jester, but I don't know how it flies or whether it's any good. Just looks like it might be good. Of course if you're ready to do a lot of work there's the Allegro Lite, but that's a heavy duty project! lots of people have been telling me to step up to a 100 plane, but my hi-start is for 2m and it would be difficult to fit larger wings in my car, so that's out of the question...for now at least. Some 100 aren't very heavy, and most have two part wings. If you can't fit 50 wing halves you must be sharing a Messerschmidt tandem car with another flyer. Dynaflite used to have a 100 plane which I think was pretty light called the Apogee, but again I don't know how it flew, plus I don't know if you can get one. Maybe would high start on 2M ok. The Oly 2 is very nice but slow, and if a high start can launch a Spirit I bet it can do as well for a light Oly 2. Laser Arts has a 100 plane but I don't know what it's like. An Oly 2 made with a fully d tubed S3021 wing would probably be great. There's a short kit out there for the Sagitta 900, but I've never flown one, or at least not for long. I think people used to like them. snip -- Lincoln Ross NOTE ADDRESS CHANGE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] help with my next plane.
Hi Brian, The Lil Dork is a good 2M plane but needs a larger stab. Another good 2M is the Ruby. It also needs a larger stab and is very good. I and my brother fly both and like them. An Addiction is an exceptional open class. 4 break LE bu Fred Sage is the way to go. I have owned several of them and still own one now. Any ?? type or call me 805-526-6292. Thermals Art Brian Stutters wrote: i'm looking to move up (or laterally) to another plane. my current spirit is not only fairly well destroyed, but has been a pain in the ass the entire way. i want to stay in the 2m RES area, so i've been considering these options: a) finding a 2m gnome kit (which i gather are hard to come by these days). i flew one the other day and i was very impressed (especially after flying a spirit for the last couple of months). b) skybench's 2m lil bird. i'm a sucker for appearances, and i really like how the bird family of planes look. c) nsp's kestrel 2m. seems nice enough and i like the idea of laser cut parts. lots of people have been telling me to step up to a 100 plane, but my hi-start is for 2m and it would be difficult to fit larger wings in my car, so that's out of the question...for now at least. if anyone who's flown/owned any of the three planes mentioned above would be willing to email me (off-list, so as not to clog things up) regarding your impressions of the planes, bad tendencies, things to watch out for, etc, i would REALLY REALLY REALLY appreciate it. thank you much. brian = .. .. .. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] help with my next plane.
Brian Stutters wrote: b) skybench's 2m lil bird. i'm a sucker for appearances, and i really like how the bird family of planes look. Given that it is a laser cut kit, supported extremely well, I've never heard one bad comment about it, and there are LOTS of them flown at our club field, I'd say it is an ideal choice. If you want something fancier looking, try the Laser Arts Soverign. It is also laser cut, but a pod-and-boom v-tail, so there is less to construct. lots of people have been telling me to step up to a 100 plane, but my hi-start is for 2m and it would be difficult to fit larger wings in my car, so that's out of the question...for now at least. I have a Pontiac Sunfire 4dr. Thank goodness the rear seat folds down exposing an opening to the trunk. One piece 2m and twho piece 3m wings are possible :) Note: 3 piece 3m wings are about the same size as a two piece 2m wing :) -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] help with my next plane.
another good flyer is the 2 meter Mistral. Check it out on my web site. Mark http://www.isthmusmodels.com --- Brian Stutters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm looking to move up (or laterally) to another plane. my current spirit is not only fairly well destroyed, but has been a pain in the ass the entire way. i want to stay in the 2m RES area, so i've been considering these options: a) finding a 2m gnome kit (which i gather are hard to come by these days). i flew one the other day and i was very impressed (especially after flying a spirit for the last couple of months). b) skybench's 2m lil bird. i'm a sucker for appearances, and i really like how the bird family of planes look. c) nsp's kestrel 2m. seems nice enough and i like the idea of laser cut parts. lots of people have been telling me to step up to a 100 plane, but my hi-start is for 2m and it would be difficult to fit larger wings in my car, so that's out of the question...for now at least. if anyone who's flown/owned any of the three planes mentioned above would be willing to email me (off-list, so as not to clog things up) regarding your impressions of the planes, bad tendencies, things to watch out for, etc, i would REALLY REALLY REALLY appreciate it. thank you much. brian = .. .. .. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP! - TopFlite Metrick
Brian, The Metric flies horribly unless you increase the dihedral. I built one in the 80s because it looked so good and was deeply disappointed. Anker - Original Message - From: Brian Joder - OUTBOUND Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:43 AM Subject: [RCSE] HELP! - TopFlite Metrick Hello Anyone, I'm just back into the r/c soaring stuff after 20 some years... anyway I just finished my TopFlite Metrick that had been 95% finished and stored away since 1981. (I bought this at the time since I could only dream of owning a Hobie Hawk - I was 17 then!) I would like to connect with anyone who has any experience with one of these birds. I built mine with the spoilers. I think at the time it was supposed to be a pretty hi-perf plane... but not to todays standard I'm sure. In particular if you have anything on what the throw of the rudder and elevator should be. Also, What are the flying characteristics? Anything would be helpful... is there a vintage class I can fly in???!!! Thanks, Brian Joder [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help
At 2 thick you can use straping tape to strengthen the fuselage. At 1.5 you will need to add additional support. I would run carbon tube or basswood longerons from the tail to about 2 from the nose on both sides. Mike - Original Message - From: Marcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Help Thanks Mike, but do you think that if I make it 1.6 will it be too fragile or will have any other problems? Marcio On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:59:28 -0600 Mike Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As narrow as possible. Most of the combat warbirds have a width of about 2. This makes them semi-scale but they have less drag and better performance. The more scale fueslages still fly good but for combat you will be happier with the better performance. Mike - Original Message - From: Marcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: [RCSE] Help Hi! Please somebody help me! I'm making a Foamie Combat Warbird (like these ones: http://www.davesaircraftworks.com/combat.htm), that has 48 wingspan and 35 lenght. Anyone knows which would be a good width for the fuselage? Thanks! Marcio Don't E-Mail, ZipMail! http://www.zipmail.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't E-Mail, ZipMail! http://www.zipmail.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help with Obechi sheeted wings!!
Mark Might be easier to shim the fuse with balsa, then cover it with thin fiberglass cloth. ?? Jim - Original Message - From: Mark Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:42 AM Subject: [RCSE] Help with Obechi sheeted wings!! I recently bought a pre-sheeted Anthem (hi Jerry)from someone I meet off of RCSE. The wings are wonderful, but the only problem is that whoever sheeted the wings did not cut and sand the angle into the root core where it meets the fuse. What would be the best way to get this angle cut or sanded into the root of the core. Thanks Mark Wales _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help finding long pushrods.
In a message dated 04/23/2001 7:51:15 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello All, I am trying to rig my new Omega 3 F3J. The pushrods it came with from Sal were not long enough, 48 it needs 54. The brass plated SS. that Sal put in the box was nice stuff but too short. Sal sent me some un-plated SS but it seems too flexible and changes length with compression and tension and also doesn't fit in the pre-installed tubes at .062 dia. Where do I get good .056 dia. brass plated SS or any good material in .056 dia? Lots of people seem to have 48 length but what about longer. How good is carbon fiber and is it available in .056 and 54 long. Thanks! Del Schier K1UHF I just recently had this problem for a fuselage that needed long pushrods. I ended up splicing carbon rods together by using a short length of brass tube as a coupler, CA'ing and crimping the ends in place. I cut the plastic sleeve and determined how much movement was needed for the surface actuation and separated the resultant two pieces by that distance, plus a little for good measure. I then joined the sleeves together using a larger diameter tube which allowed the brass coupler to slide inside of it, and still have the pushrod supported through its entire length. If you arrange to keep these couplers forward of the CG rather that behind it, it'll be that much less weight you'll have to compensate for with nose weight. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] help
http://www.adesigner.com/brass.htm anybody got the url for BRASS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] help find the salmon ad (off topic)
I have it Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: [RCSE] help find the salmon ad (off topic) I saw a reference to "the salmon ad" a cuople of weeks ago but wasn't able to view it until yesterday - now no longer have the site address or how to download the movie.but it is so funny I want to share it with friends could someone help me via back channel with this Thanx. Jimbo in NM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Help with AutoCad
I never tried it, I don't know for sure if acad13 can accept bmp files, but I would think so because it can do rendering. It can accept dxf files. Unfortunately I lent my manuals out and drafting is closed right now. I'll see what I can find, but there are some Acad heavyweights out there on the exchange who should answer this. Rick -Original Message- From: S Madjanovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 11:55 AM To: soaring mailing list; RC Ducted Fans and Jets; E Flight mailing list Subject: [RCSE] Help with AutoCad I am trying to import a scanned image into AutoCad. I am trying to import a scanned image of an aircraft drawing. I can scan the image and save it in a variety of formats. When I try to import or open the image AutoCad will not do so. I am using AutoCad LT 98 and AutoCad R13. If any of you have experience and can hold my hand step by step through the proceedure it would be greatly appreciated. Stephen Ontario Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help - rubber lube
A quicker/simpler/more available alternative is Armor All or one of the similar preservative/protectant compounds usually--- DO NOT use Armor All if you want your rubber motors to last. As the material dries it attaches to the surface of the rubber and generates a harder, somewhat inflexible surface. Ed Harris and I discoverd this a number of years ago when we used it on a high start rubber. About two weeks after the application the tube started to surface crack and within four weeks the high start was worthless. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall." Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords!
The English language is dying. It's being butchered to death. robert k scott wrote: Does anyone know why many people are suddenly having a problem with homonyms? Does anyone have any ideas what's causing this? -robert RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords!
Not that this is purely soaring-related, but it's better than snarling at each other over RX/TX techno-bits! But sure, that's an easy one to answer. It's basically been the advent of the computer, especially lately with the increasing popularity of the Internet and email-based communication. Just think about what computers provide for us: Spell check: allows people to just "get in the ballpark" before a quick right-click settles things right again. Why bother to learn to spell if you'll always have a checker to do it for you? Some high-schools are even allowing provicial-level exams in English and Social Studies to be written on a processor. Email: You only have to look at a list like this, informal as it might be, to see that it is easy to get into the habit of being lazy when writing. A lot of posts here have no semblance of grammar or structure (eg. ALL IN CAPS), and a few don't even bother with punctuation (I find such posts especially frustrating to read). Forgive my sounding like a technophobe, but that's just the way I see it. I think a lot of the problem comes with people not taking much time to read anymore, as well. Just my thoughts... Cheers, Adam From: "robert k scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords! Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:10:36 -0700 Does anyone know why many people are suddenly having a problem with homonyms? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords!
Good observations, Robert. Just off-hand, I think there is a deteriorating regard for proper use of the language and inattention to errors being made, particularly among younger people. This is partly the fault of the educational system which doesn't want to stifle a student's imagination and creativity by correcting his/her spelling. Perhaps some people do not differentiate between "chord" and "cord", "losing" and "loosing", "there" and "their", "ailrons" and "ailerons", "don't" and "doesn't", etc. or just plain do not care. On occasion, I have called errors to the attention of the "offenders" when the misuse is flagrant, repetitious and borders on the annoying. This is offered in a spirit of being helpful, rather than critical. Usually, a thankful response will follow, although some get defensive. However, it is very easy to see only what we intended to write or thought we wrote, rather than what we actually did. I often find I have failed to edit out some errors after I reread something I've sent off, so have to realize it can happen to others, too. -- From: robert k scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords! Date: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:10 AM Does anyone know why many people are suddenly having a problem with homonyms? I've been noticing this in both print media and on the web/usenet/email. I can understand the chord/cord thing to an extent; 'chord' IS basically jargon unless you are an aerospace engineer of some sort, but 'cord' as in 'a trainer cord' isn't, really- its a common everyday term, and is used a lot more than 'chord' which is for airfoils and stringed musical instruments. You would think people would make the mistake the other way 'round, and in the case of wings, most hard info we see is in PRINT, so the people making these mistakes should have been spelling the way they learned the word and making pronunciation errors. It baffles me how 2 homonyms can be confused when no one is pronouncing the words! I'm not just picking on people posting to mailing lists here. I've recently caught Time magazine stating that Russia was still loosing the space race. Does anyone have any ideas what's causing this? -robert RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help! I keep loosing my trainer chords!
Maybe its dew to son flares, or earthquacks or maybe its. I here my Tx battery beeping, must be lowe voteage, got to go. robert k scott wrote: Does anyone know why many people are suddenly having a problem with homonyms? Does anyone have any ideas what's causing this? -robert -- Remember, if you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments. Bob Pope Laguna Hills, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help w/ Javelin, 8AUF: THANKS!
Wow, what an outpouring of suggestions and help -- this is the greatest newsgroup, I swear! Anyway, thanks to ya'll, I'm about 95% of the way to solving my problem, so I don't need to get a new RX or a new TX, nor do I need to sell my Javelin. I think everything's going to be okay now. Whew! Best to all, Erik RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed
Bruce, Yes, one to one meant using a 5 to 1 pump. Since you went beyond the catalytic stage with too much hardener, there is little you can do unless you can put it in an over or hot box and 100+ degrees. This may work, but the results may not be satisfactory. If it can still be dissolved with rubbing alcohol, you can carefully try and wipe it off. Use lots of alcohol soaked rags or paper towels and work slowly. The time it takes may far exceed the cost of a new wing. If not, in my opinion there is nothing you can do. I have tried, and it is a real mess. Tom Bruce Beddoe wrote: I bagged a pair of wings and a stab 2 days ago. They are plywood sheeted foam that I put glass over. This was the first time I had used West Systems Epoxy and the directions said to mix 1:1. When it was still not very hard today, I carefully read the directions which said if you don't have the special pumps for the cans, then mix 5:1 by weight or volume. 1) Is there any way to get the mess to harden. It doesn't have to be full strength, since the ply is pretty strong anyway. If baking or something might get rid of or harden the excess hardener, obviously this would be preferred. 2) If the mess has to come off, how do I get it off the wood without dissolving the foam? I sure hope someone has some brilliant ideas. Thanks. Bruce Beddoe Pacific Palisades, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tom Broeski -- Afton, VA TG Exhibits (Exhibit and Prototype Design) http://www.adesigner.com TG Hobbies (Home of the "Quote") http://www.adesigner.com/hobbies.htm BRASS (Blue Ridge Area Soaring Society) http://www.adesigner.com/brass.htm BRIC (Blue Ridge Inventors' Club) http://www.inventorclub.org 540 943-3356 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed
Bruce, I'm no expert in epoxy but I do use the West System epoxy for bagging. What I am wondering is why this stuff didn't get hard sooner. If you mixed much more hardener into it than you should have it seems that it should have hardened in a shorter amount of time. Only thing I can figure is the hardener NEEDS that amount of resin to react with. That would leave all that excess hardener just laying there I don't know how to solve your problem with the wings now, but I am wondering if anyone out there in the know, can explain why this mix didn't harden. Thanks, RB Bruce Beddoe wrote: I bagged a pair of wings and a stab 2 days ago. They are plywood sheeted foam that I put glass over. This was the first time I had used West Systems Epoxy and the directions said to mix 1:1. When it was still not very hard today, I carefully read the directions which said if you don't have the special pumps for the cans, then mix 5:1 by weight or volume. 1) Is there any way to get the mess to harden. It doesn't have to be full strength, since the ply is pretty strong anyway. If baking or something might get rid of or harden the excess hardener, obviously this would be preferred. 2) If the mess has to come off, how do I get it off the wood without dissolving the foam? I sure hope someone has some brilliant ideas. Thanks. Bruce Beddoe Pacific Palisades, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed
There is no way to get that mess to harden. Epoxy MUST be mixed at the proper ratio for it to harden. The range of error that is acceptable is on the order of +/-10%. IOW pretty darn close. Now, your ply skinned wings should be pretty strong so you should be able to scrape all of the glass and gooey epoxy off. Then use epoxy or white vinegar to clean the goo off of the surface, don't try and get all of the goo out of the wood, just get it to the point that feels tacky without slippery goo on the surface. Now reglass using epoxy mixed at the proper ratio and FULLY mixed. I use an egg timer when I mix epoxy to make sure I mix for a FULL 3 MINUTES. The reworked wing will not be as strong as if it had been done right the first but it should be pretty close. It is a good idea when using any new material, especially a different epoxy, to do a test before using it on something important. To test; 1. Mix a small batch and time how long it takes to harden in the cup. Caution; It may get very hot so watch it for fire and smoke. 2. Mix a small batch and spread it on some of the typical materials you use, balsa, ply, glass, etc. Let cure and see how hard the surface is and measure the difference in strength, stiffness and weight. These test don't all have to be accurate, just a feel for the difference will give you a better understanding of what is going on. 3. Try making a small layup similar to the real part you will be making to see what traps might get you when you do the big one. Remember what worked and what didn't. :-)) michael N6CHV AMA 77292 (builder of boats as well as models and user of LOTS of epoxy) Bruce Beddoe wrote: I bagged a pair of wings and a stab 2 days ago. They are plywood sheeted foam that I put glass over. This was the first time I had used West Systems Epoxy and the directions said to mix 1:1. When it was still not very hard today, I carefully read the directions which said if you don't have the special pumps for the cans, then mix 5:1 by weight or volume. 1) Is there any way to get the mess to harden. It doesn't have to be full strength, since the ply is pretty strong anyway. If baking or something might get rid of or harden the excess hardener, obviously this would be preferred. 2) If the mess has to come off, how do I get it off the wood without dissolving the foam? I sure hope someone has some brilliant ideas. Thanks. Bruce Beddoe Pacific Palisades, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed
First, epoxy is not polymerized by catalysis as polyester is. Epoxy requires accurate mixing of the two parts; resin and hardener. They are called this because that's what they are. A mismatch in either direction will leave you with some unreacted component which will weaken the final product at best, or leave you with a sticky mess. Alcohol or vinegar will get the uncured mess off eventually, but that part that cured will probably still be gummy. If it stuck to the wood, get a cabinet scraper and try to pull as much as you can off that way. John Kirchstein Silent Knights Soaring Society Newark, DE http://www.SilentKnightsSoaring.org -Original Message- From: Bruce Beddoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 7:38 AM To: RCSE; Doug Reel Subject: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed I bagged a pair of wings and a stab 2 days ago. They are plywood sheeted foam that I put glass over. This was the first time I had used West Systems Epoxy and the directions said to mix 1:1. When it was still not very hard today, I carefully read the directions which said if you don't have the special pumps for the cans, then mix 5:1 by weight or volume. 1) Is there any way to get the mess to harden. It doesn't have to be full strength, since the ply is pretty strong anyway. If baking or something might get rid of or harden the excess hardener, obviously this would be preferred. 2) If the mess has to come off, how do I get it off the wood without dissolving the foam? I sure hope someone has some brilliant ideas. Thanks. Bruce Beddoe Pacific Palisades, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP! epoxy experts needed
Send those wings to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, D.C. (there's a guy there that has lots of experience at getting out of sticky/gooey messes) ; - ) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HELP ME!
Tim. . . don't try to pick off the CA as a chip of the plastic will come off. I was able to remove CA on mine with acetone without harming the lenses. You might want to check with a lab and try it on a plastic lens blank first. Debonder may also work well. Let us all know. I splashed some CA on my prescription plastic glasses! Anyone know how to remove without damaging the glasses. Don't you guys without glasses worry about your eyes? Tim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [RCSE] Help on spider foam conclusions:
I had the same problem when I was cutting the airfoils being used for Dr. Michael Selig's wind tunnel test. The solution I came up with was to cut in two half size (short wing) sections and join them together. My theory on the problem was that the cutting wire did not have an accurate circular cross-section and therefore would tend to twist and wander around on long cuts. If that is the case, then I would think that a larger diameter under more tension would do better. Of course having very accurate round wire would help too (if that is the problem). Jerry's theory for what it is worth Jerry Robertson Flagstaff Az. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
