Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[John Doue]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I really do understand your frustration. To be completely honest with 
you, you can certainly return to 1.1.18.  But you do have to realize 
that you are sticking with a complete dead end.


You can do that. Heck there are people out there still running the last 
version of the Mozilla suite, Netscape 7.2, even a few still trying to 
get Communicator to work. The older the abandoned product gets, the less 
functional it becomes.


For a good while, probably quite a while, 1.1.18 will continue to work, 
and work quite well.  But the days are numbered and the clock is 
ticking. I doubt that you will see any security updates for the 1.1 line.


If you value the suite approach, and if you want to have a product that 
is going to carry you into the future with any certainty, making 2.0 
work is the only real way to go.


The only other real option is to go Firefox/Thunderbird.  Its a good 
option, but I am willing to bet that you will have just as much 
conversion problems going that route as you will staying with SeaMonkey.


I am sorry this has been so difficult for you.

Lee


Lee,

You are making valid points, but one or two more need to be made.

Users who are not eager to experiment with .0 products are wise to stay 
with the product they are using today *until* the most obvious bugs are 
ironed out in the next release. This has always been true, and still is 
today.


Personally, I like to keep a middle road, sticking to the previous 
version of a software while experimenting with a new one. Very seldom do 
I feel I *need* to switch to a new version. I usually wait to do the 
switch until, and only until, the new version does at least for me as 
much as the previous version. I do not move up if doing so means losing 
some features I find really useful and not being able to replace them by 
a satisfactory equivalent.


In SM 2.0 case, bugs set aside, this means waiting until new add-ons are 
developed specifically for this version.


Knowing the product will not go any further does not matter to me as 
long as it does the job. And since the best software always have their 
shares of security holes, new ones showing up as fast as old ones are 
plugged, I'd rather trust my combination of hardware and software 
firewall and a good antivirus.


I believe that the SM project deserves all the help it can get from its 
users, and remaining on the sidelines without contributing by pointing 
out problems, in a non-aggressive manner,  is not very productive. The 
other side of the coin is, developers, although they may feel unduly 
criticized sometimes, and I can sympathize, should make sure the merits 
of remarks are duly examined, in an open-minded manner.


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Re: Bug: SM 2.0 went *poof* on expanding a newsgroup folder..

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 09:31 PM, q wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
> 
>>
>> So, did you submit the crash report?
> Yes, I did..
> 

And the url to the report is?

Hint: in the url address bar enter: about:crashes
Click on the 'Report ID' for the most recent.
That will open
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/

Copy & paste the url here & hopefully someone in the group can help
identify what the issue might be.




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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:

>Google's translation service has gone on vacation:
>
>We're sorry ...
>
>... ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries.
>To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. but your
>computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our
>users, we can not process your request right now.

That's interesting. Just tried and the translation works fine for me.
Although the term 'fine' should be avoided. The result is, eeh,
remarkable. :-D

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Re: Bug: SM 2.0 went *poof* on expanding a newsgroup folder..

[q]

NoOp wrote:



So, did you submit the crash report?

Yes, I did..

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SeaMonkey 2.0 won't open .html files from Finder

[Cap'n Ron]

With older versions of SeaMonkey, if I clicked on an html file in
finder, it opened in SeaMonkey. Now, with 2.0, when I click on an html
file in finder, it opens a new window in SeaMonkey, but only displays
the configured home page, not the file I was trying to open.
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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 09:02 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> NoOp:
>>On 11/03/2009 08:15 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> 
>>> For those of you who which to read the thread (german *eg*)
>>> <4ad37093.9030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de>
>>
>>Not with out a link :-)
> 
> Obviously you don't have the MIDF. *g*

I left it in Kuala Lumpur
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews/browse_frm/thread/14e67e016c7c64c2/c25b248072ae0757?tvc=1#c25b248072ae0757

Google's translation service has gone on vacation:

We're sorry ...

... ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries.
To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. but your
computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our
users, we can not process your request right now.

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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:
>On 11/03/2009 08:15 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> For those of you who which to read the thread (german *eg*)
>> <4ad37093.9030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de>
>
>Not with out a link :-)

Obviously you don't have the MIDF. *g*

http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews/browse_frm/thread/14e67e016c7c64c2/c25b248072ae0757?tvc=1#c25b248072ae0757

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[Phillip Jones]

Bush wrote:

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.



   I will 2nd the Motion


I'm not happy about Forms Manager as was in 1.1.8 being gone. I've been 
told you can correct mistakes by highlighting entry and then his delete. 
But it doesn't work. I've tried. I'll deal with it because I am not 
going back. But I don't like it.


--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net   http://www.vpea.org
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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 08:15 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Leonidas Jones:
>>Rex wrote:
> 
>>> Anyone else seen this?
>>
>>No, since I migrated my profile, I've added two newsgroup accounts with 
>>no issue at all.
> 
> But i have, when a newsserver was automatically added by clicking on a
> link. It was .
> 
> The culprit was a line in the prefs.js:
> user_pref("mail.server.server8.valid", false);
> 
> For those of you who which to read the thread (german *eg*)
> <4ad37093.9030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de>
Not with out a link :-)

I had issues with new.mozdev.org as well (public.mozdev.prefbar). But I
think it was a case of me messing up the 'mozdev' username. Can't recall
exactly what I did to fix it, but it seems to be working just fine now.

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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Leonidas Jones]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Leonidas Jones:

Rex wrote:



Anyone else seen this?


No, since I migrated my profile, I've added two newsgroup accounts with
no issue at all.


But i have, when a newsserver was automatically added by clicking on a
link. It was.

The culprit was a line in the prefs.js:
user_pref("mail.server.server8.valid", false);

For those of you who which to read the thread (german *eg*)
<4ad37093.9030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de>

Hartmut


Okay, the two groups I added were direct, via Account Settings.

Lee

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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge:

>For those of you who which to read ...
  ^
Should be 'wish'.

Hartmut
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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Hartmut Figge]

Leonidas Jones:
>Rex wrote:

>> Anyone else seen this?
>
>No, since I migrated my profile, I've added two newsgroup accounts with 
>no issue at all.

But i have, when a newsserver was automatically added by clicking on a
link. It was .

The culprit was a line in the prefs.js:
user_pref("mail.server.server8.valid", false);

For those of you who which to read the thread (german *eg*)
<4ad37093.9030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de>

Hartmut
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Re: SM2.0

[Graham]

Rick wrote:

Graham wrote:
SM 2.0 has it problems, but if you really did end up with other 
trashed folders, your system has other, more serious problems because 
the SM install won't touch other folders. When did you last run a 
chkdsk on your drive(s)?
my system was running very smoothly until I tried to install SM.  It was 
the culprit no doubt.  It trashed all my music, videos, and photographs.

Never seen anything like that before.


I see you avoided answering my question about chkdsk. A system may run 
fine with a corrupt disk until something finally causes the corruption 
to become obvious.

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Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 09:34 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> So not sure what the issue could be on your system. However, for the
>> sake of keeping this thread to a minimum, I'll be happy to test other
>> scenarios if you'll contact me directly (just drop the .invalid from the
>> email address & keep the same subject so that I don't automatically drop
>> the msg in the spam filters). I can test on linux (ubuntu 9.04 & 9.10 -
>> gnome only, I'm alergic to kde), WinXPPro & Win2KPro (both fully updated).
>> 
> I noted the test I made, new profile, new install with no migration, even new 
> Fedora in a fresh virtual machine. All behave the same. No clue... :-(
> 

Could it be that the VM is the issue? Do you experience the same on a
non VM?
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Re: SM2.0

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 02:24 PM, Rick wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>> Just tried to install SM 2.0 and it totally did not work it trashed my 
>> iTunes files and it will not be found on my system until the bugs are 
>> worked out of it.  This is the first time I have ever had problems. 
>> There was nothing else running and some thing called SM Wizard showed up 
>> but, did nothing.  I reinstalled 1.18 restarted the system.
> it also trashed all my files in acouple of folders.  I am Really PO ed

I seriously doubt that SeaMonkey trashed any of your iTunes & other
folders. But, assuming that it did; can you please detail _exactly_ what
you did to install SM 2.0 and reinstall 1.1.18, what your operating
system is & also your hardware details?


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Re: Bug: SM 2.0 went *poof* on expanding a newsgroup folder..

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 09:13 AM, Rex wrote:
> 
> This has happened to me twice so far- first while expanding a newsgroup 
> with the view set to 'unread messages' I was left looking at the crash 
> reporter window.
> The second time was with my Gmail IMAP account, folder view again set to 
> unread only.
> FWIW, the news server uses an encrypted connection.

So, did you submit the crash report?
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Re: SM2.0

[Rick]

Graham wrote:

Rick wrote:

Rick wrote:
Just tried to install SM 2.0 and it totally did not work it trashed 
my iTunes files and it will not be found on my system until the bugs 
are worked out of it.  This is the first time I have ever had 
problems. There was nothing else running and some thing called SM 
Wizard showed up but, did nothing.  I reinstalled 1.18 restarted the 
system.

it also trashed all my files in acouple of folders.  I am Really PO ed


SM 2.0 has it problems, but if you really did end up with other trashed 
folders, your system has other, more serious problems because the SM 
install won't touch other folders. When did you last run a chkdsk on 
your drive(s)?
my system was running very smoothly until I tried to install SM.  It was 
the culprit no doubt.  It trashed all my music, videos, and photographs.

Never seen anything like that before.
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Re: SM2.0

[Graham]

Rick wrote:

Rick wrote:
Just tried to install SM 2.0 and it totally did not work it trashed my 
iTunes files and it will not be found on my system until the bugs are 
worked out of it.  This is the first time I have ever had problems. 
There was nothing else running and some thing called SM Wizard showed 
up but, did nothing.  I reinstalled 1.18 restarted the system.

it also trashed all my files in acouple of folders.  I am Really PO ed


SM 2.0 has it problems, but if you really did end up with other trashed 
folders, your system has other, more serious problems because the SM 
install won't touch other folders. When did you last run a chkdsk on 
your drive(s)?

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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Leonidas Jones]

Rex wrote:

This has definitely got to be a bug.
I have configured Gmail IMAP, one POP account and 3 newsgroup server
accounts in Seamonkey so far. When I try to add an account- it assumes I
want to add a newsgroup account and just asks for name and server name-
it does not show me the first page where I could choose from
Email/News/RSS setup.
What's more- this does not add a new account- it just changes the
settings of the last account that's there.

Anyone else seen this?


No, since I migrated my profile, I've added two newsgroup accounts with 
no issue at all.


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Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

[Rex]

This has definitely got to be a bug.
I have configured Gmail IMAP, one POP account and 3 newsgroup server 
accounts in Seamonkey so far. When I try to add an account- it assumes I 
want to add a newsgroup account and just asks for name and server name- 
it does not show me the first page where I could choose from 
Email/News/RSS setup.
What's more- this does not add a new account- it just changes the 
settings of the last account that's there.


Anyone else seen this?
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[Bush]

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.



 I will 2nd the Motion
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[Leonidas Jones]

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I really do understand your frustration. To be completely honest with 
you, you can certainly return to 1.1.18.  But you do have to realize 
that you are sticking with a complete dead end.


You can do that. Heck there are people out there still running the last 
version of the Mozilla suite, Netscape 7.2, even a few still trying to 
get Communicator to work. The older the abandoned product gets, the less 
functional it becomes.


For a good while, probably quite a while, 1.1.18 will continue to work, 
and work quite well.  But the days are numbered and the clock is 
ticking. I doubt that you will see any security updates for the 1.1 line.


If you value the suite approach, and if you want to have a product that 
is going to carry you into the future with any certainty, making 2.0 
work is the only real way to go.


The only other real option is to go Firefox/Thunderbird.  Its a good 
option, but I am willing to bet that you will have just as much 
conversion problems going that route as you will staying with SeaMonkey.


I am sorry this has been so difficult for you.

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SM2.0

[Rick]

Just tried to install SM 2.0 and it totally did not work it trashed my 
iTunes files and it will not be found on my system until the bugs are 
worked out of it.  This is the first time I have ever had problems. 
There was nothing else running and some thing called SM Wizard showed up 
but, did nothing.  I reinstalled 1.18 restarted the system.

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Re: SM and Google Desktop Search

[George Carden]

George Carden wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

George Carden schrieb:


OK, if no one knows the answer to this, can anyone tell us if there is a
"desktop search" application that does work with both the browser and
e-mail functions of Seamonkey 2.0?


This is rather a GDS-issue than a seamonkey issue, I would recomend
asking them why it doesn't index.

btw: Seamonkey uses the same container-format as Thunderbird, have you
tried following their suggestions?
http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=16892

regards
Martin


Martin! That got it! Wow. Sometimes I'm amazed how this group makes me
realize how dumb I am. ;-) I simply uninstalled and re-installed Google
Desktop Search, and it appears all is well. THANK YOU, and everyone here
for making my world a little closer to perfect today.

-George


Well, I spoke too soon. I re-installed Google Desktop Search, and it 
only indexed Seamonkey e-mail and web pages that were viewed by 
Seamonkey 1.18 on my PC. So...still wondering what the answer is.


-George
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Re: Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

[Smiles]

William Morrison wrote:
OK, I did what you suggested and reinstalled 1.1.18 over itself and all 
is still good with it and installed 2.0 to a new directory named 
Seamonkey2.0. Now here's where it get interesting, I checked the profile 
manager in 1.1.18 and it list no profile and if I try to create a new 
one 1.1.18 opens as if it is a new install i.e. no bookmarks, no email, 
so I check profile manager in 2.0 and it shows a profile named "Default 
User2", that's one I had created from the previous install of 2.0 but 
when I do a search with Windows search using just the keyword "Default" 
it finds every other occurrence of the word default except that one on 
any of the four hard drives I have on this computer. This is really 
getting confusing I think I might just do like some of the others 
have said and stay with 1.1.18 until the next version of Seamonkey comes 
out unless it requires me to install 2.0 before I can upgrade to 
anything newer and if that happens I might as well switch back to 
Eudora, I've had people tell me it just laughs at viruses because it 
can't open them and just deletes them.



Martin Freitag wrote:

Maybe try to install SM1.1.18 again over the old SM1.1.x to make sure
it's properly registered.
After that install SM2 to a new folder and have a look if the migration
succeeds.
If everything fails again I would suggest that you re-create your
mail-accounts in SM2 completely then close SM2 and copy your
mail-box-conainer files from the SM1.1.18 profile to the new SM2 profile.
regards

Martin
  



OK may this will help
go back to SM1.1.18 after testing rename the program folder or move it.
make a new desktop short cut from this folder test it to make sure it 
works there is no reason for it not to work


now use the defaults in SM2 to install it as it puts it own shortcuts it 
should work also with no problems


it is worth a try
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cookies not accepted in 2.0 SM

[James]

I'm guessing that you've tried going to Tools, Cookie Manager and 
choosing "Use default cookie permissions"?


James
.
.

Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:31:22 -0600
From: jack
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: cookies not accepted in 2.0 SM
Message-ID:<4jkdnbq5ping9w3xnz2dnuvz_rmdn...@mozilla.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I have a problem where sites  that you have to sign into like yahoo mail
and others say that to turn on cookies then try again.
I have it set up to accept all even 3rd party and it still does not work.
has not worked for me in previous versions either.
anyone have a clue or work around?
thanks
   


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Re: What happened to the form manager

[Smiles]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Eric schrieb:

Just wondering why the fill in form manager was left out of the 2.0
build?  It was a nice little feature for some things.



Basically because the new engine offered another one and because the old
one was old unmaintained code which no developer was familiar with.



Any plans to bring it back?


Not as long long as there's no volunteer to do the work.
regards

Martin


Sorry, but it was a bad move to remove it. It was one of the best 
features of 1.18, and lots of people are missing it. I know I'm staying 
with 1.18 because of it.

would like it back before I switch again must use it 3-4 times a day
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What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?

[Pat Welch]

Hi.

I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies 
of Email in specific categories.


Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the 
message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were 
displayed.


Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to 
all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are 
from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts).


Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the 
Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back!


Sounds like a bug.

-Pat in this NG>

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Re: Win XP copy function

[Philip Chee]

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:10:29 -0800 (PST), nickfruscello wrote:

> Recently, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 RC and noticed that the copy
> function does not work.  I tried Ctrl+C, choosing Edit and then copy,
> right click copy and none of them worked.  I uninstalled the browser
> completely, reinstalled it with the current 2.0 version on the front
> page and I'm still having this problem.  I'm using Windows XP
> professional service pack 3.  Interestingly enough, I have Windows
> Vista at home and the copy paste function works fine.  I installed
> Seamonkey fresh on another Windows XP machine and it had the same
> problem.  Is this a problem with XP?

If you type CTRL-C twice, can you then paste? Just asking.

Phil

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Re: Win XP copy function

[Leonidas Jones]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

nickfruscello wrote:


Recently, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 RC and noticed that the copy
function does not work. I tried Ctrl+C, choosing Edit and then copy,
right click copy and none of them worked. I uninstalled the browser
completely, reinstalled it with the current 2.0 version on the front
page and I'm still having this problem. I'm using Windows XP
professional service pack 3.



I'm having the exact same problem at work, where we are still running
Win2k. And it's not only in the navigator: the copy function doesn't
work in Mail either. It's a major functionality, so let's just say that
right now, my coworkers are not happy campers...

S.


Well, I downloaded and installed it on Win 2K, SP4.  It installed fine, 
and migrated the profile without issue.  Copy/Paste is working fine too.


I wonder if there might be a profile issue that is causing your problem. 
 Have you tried starting in Safe Mode, to see if it works?  If that 
fails, try creating a new profile and see if it works.


It does work, we just need to see what is causing the problem in your setup.

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Re: still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[Phillip Jones]

suze l'fox wrote:
---snip---



suze l'fox schrieb:

Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
What on earth is wrong?


Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

  Suze, zone 6, SW IN





Tried to download SM 2  no issue downloading nor opening the .dmg file.

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Re: still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[Phillip Jones]

suze l'fox wrote:

Left a copy of message below so you know the history. First, removed all 
cookies. Can't find anything about how to remove history.

Second: Removed all cookies. Tried to download again without luck. Get this 
message:

Following disk images failed to mount: SeaMonkey 2.0 dr because corrupt image.

Suze, SWIN

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:48 +0100
From: Martin Freitag
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

suze l'fox schrieb:

Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
What on earth is wrong?


Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

  Suze, zone 6, SW IN





Tried to download SM 2  no issue downloading nor opening the .dmg file.

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Re: SM2.0

[Rick]

Rick wrote:
Just tried to install SM 2.0 and it totally did not work it trashed my 
iTunes files and it will not be found on my system until the bugs are 
worked out of it.  This is the first time I have ever had problems. 
There was nothing else running and some thing called SM Wizard showed up 
but, did nothing.  I reinstalled 1.18 restarted the system.

it also trashed all my files in acouple of folders.  I am Really PO ed
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Re: still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[Leonidas Jones]

suze l'fox wrote:

Left a copy of message below so you know the history. First, removed all 
cookies. Can't find anything about how to remove history.

Second: Removed all cookies. Tried to download again without luck. Get this 
message:

Following disk images failed to mount: SeaMonkey 2.0 dr because corrupt image.

Suze, SWIN

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:48 +0100
From: Martin Freitag
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

suze l'fox schrieb:

Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
What on earth is wrong?


Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

  Suze, zone 6, SW IN






Okay, this is making no real sense, so I would suspect we need a lot 
more information.


First of all, what version of OSX are you running?  Note SM 2.0 does 
require Tiger or above.


Second, what browser are you using for the download?  If you are using 
SM 1.1.18, try using Safari.


Lee
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Re: still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[Rufus]

I've been able to download SM 2.0 useing SM 1.1.18, copy the .dmg to my 
MacBook Pro, and have been running 2.0 on it for a few days.


But as a workaround, try downloading the image using Safari - one sure 
way to get around something broken is to use something else.


Then install SM and start using it.  Let us know what you get...

--
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suze l'fox wrote:
Left a copy of message below so you know the history. First, removed all cookies. Can't find anything about how to remove history. 


Second: Removed all cookies. Tried to download again without luck. Get this 
message:

Following disk images failed to mount: SeaMonkey 2.0 dr because corrupt image.

Suze, SWIN

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:48 +0100
From: Martin Freitag 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

suze l'fox schrieb:

Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
What on earth is wrong?


Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

 Suze, zone 6, SW IN



  

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Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?

[Leonidas Jones]

Pat Welch wrote:

Hi.

I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies
of Email in specific categories.

Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the
message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were
displayed.

Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to
all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are
from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts).

Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the
Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back!

Sounds like a bug.

-Pat 


Well the proper sig delimiter should be a dash dash space.  Sig should 
work, note that it is on an account by account basis. You must set up 
the sig for each account.  If you use the same sig on multiple accounts, 
save it to a text file, and link to it in Account settings.


I'll set a sig to this reply, to test.

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Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?

[Leonidas Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Pat Welch wrote:

Hi.

I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies
of Email in specific categories.

Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the
message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were
displayed.

Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to
all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are
from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts).

Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the
Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back!

Sounds like a bug.

-Pat 


Well the proper sig delimiter should be a dash dash space. Sig should
work, note that it is on an account by account basis. You must set up
the sig for each account. If you use the same sig on multiple accounts,
save it to a text file, and link to it in Account settings.

I'll set a sig to this reply, to test.

Lee



Sig attached as expected, and should be stripped in this reply.

Lee

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Re: SM2.0 - NNTP - Enumerates every group on server?

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 11:47 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
> 
>> This isn't a fix, but may make things a little more bearable until a fix
>> is provided:
>>
>> about:config
>>news.update_unread_on_expand;false
>>
>> Of course you'll need to 'get new msgs' to refresh,
> 
> Interesting, I've just tried this and it APPEARS to be working 
> perfectly, just like in 1.1.18
> 
> It still gets new messages automatically when I click on a group, but 
> not when I expand a server? 

Yes.

If that's correct, it's perfect.

Cool! I've done the same on my other systems and that does indeed make
nntp livable again.

> 
> I did report this during the beta, but no one seemed interested.

I reckon we'll need to find a relevant bug report and or create a new
one. That's pretty much the only way to get it fixed in 2.0.1 & even
then it may be as simple as making the default
'news.update_unread_on_expand;false'.



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Re: still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[Leonidas Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

suze l'fox wrote:

Left a copy of message below so you know the history. First, removed
all cookies. Can't find anything about how to remove history.

Second: Removed all cookies. Tried to download again without luck. Get
this message:

Following disk images failed to mount: SeaMonkey 2.0 dr because
corrupt image.

Suze, SWIN

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:48 +0100
From: Martin Freitag
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

suze l'fox schrieb:

Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
What on earth is wrong?


Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

Suze, zone 6, SW IN






Okay, this is making no real sense, so I would suspect we need a lot
more information.

First of all, what version of OSX are you running? Note SM 2.0 does
require Tiger or above.

Second, what browser are you using for the download? If you are using SM
1.1.18, try using Safari.

Lee


Alright I've got it.

I tried downloading and mounting the 2.0 dmg, on a Panther machine, 
knowing it would fail.  The message I got was exactly what you report.


Panther ( OSX version 10.3.9) has been out of support for quite a while 
now. SM 1.1.18 is the last version that will run on Panther.


If you machine iw running Panther, it is almost certain that it will run 
Tiger (10.4.x).  Tiger is still receiving updates from Apple, and will 
run SM 2.0, as well as many other programs that will no longer run on 
Panther.


You can find Tiger install disks available on eBay and Amazon for pretty 
reasonable prices.  It would be worth doing.


If you want, post the specs of your machine.  We can advise you as to 
whether or not it run Tiger, or perhaps Leopard.


Lee
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Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?

[chicagofan]

Pat Welch wrote:

Hi.

I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies of
Email in specific categories.

Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the
message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were
displayed.

Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to all
folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are from (I
have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts).

Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the Email
summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back!

Sounds like a bug.

-Pat



If you close the message, you will get the full choice of folders in your menu
selection, if I understand what you are wanting.

Have no idea what's wrong with your sig line here.  :)
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Re: SM2.0 - NNTP - Enumerates every group on server?

[Gerry Hickman]

NoOp wrote:


This isn't a fix, but may make things a little more bearable until a fix
is provided:

about:config
   news.update_unread_on_expand;false

Of course you'll need to 'get new msgs' to refresh,


Interesting, I've just tried this and it APPEARS to be working 
perfectly, just like in 1.1.18


It still gets new messages automatically when I click on a group, but 
not when I expand a server? If that's correct, it's perfect.


I did report this during the beta, but no one seemed interested.


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Re: Downloaded 2.0

[Phillip Jones]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:


But unlike before there is no way to edit typing errors and mistakes.


Just select an entry you don't want and hit the Del key.

Martin
All I can get it to do is bring up a previous entry and you select among 
them or type something else no way to delete.


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Re: migrating profiles to a certain location

[seamon2]

Jens Hatlak schrieb:

seam...@taz.de wrote:

Does anybody know to force seamonkey 2 to create the new migrated
profile on a preconfigured location?


You could modify profiles.ini directly to specify an absolute path for
the new profile. I don't know whether SM will create the path upon
migration so you might want to do that yourself in advance.
Yes, thats what I did in advance, but the migration did not always start 
automatically. But read on.

Another question: What does seamonkey check before starting the
migration? Why does the cmdlineargument "-migrate" not always start the
migration?


Because it's wrong, -migration is correct and should work in combination
with -P .
The typo - error  was only in my mail; -migration should also work 
without -P 



HTH

Jens


But perhaps editing the \greprefs\all.js  in the programmfolder the 
right way did the trick!? (I forgot to use double backslashes"\\")


At least the first test was succesful, I'll keep the group informed if 
it works with all users.


modified all.js:

pref("profile.confirm_automigration",true);
// profile.migration_behavior determines how the profiles root is set
// 0 - use NS_APP_USER_PROFILES_ROOT_DIR
// 1 - create one based on the NS4.x profile root
// 2 - use, if not empty, profile.migration_directory otherwise same as 0
pref("profile.migration_behavior",2);
  ^
pref("profile.migration_directory", "\\h:\\seamonkeyprofile");
 
greetings,
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Re: SM and Google Desktop Search

[George Carden]

Martin Freitag wrote:

George Carden schrieb:


OK, if no one knows the answer to this, can anyone tell us if there is a
"desktop search" application that does work with both the browser and
e-mail functions of Seamonkey 2.0?


This is rather a GDS-issue than a seamonkey issue, I would recomend
asking them why it doesn't index.

btw: Seamonkey uses the same container-format as Thunderbird, have you
tried following their suggestions?
http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=16892

regards
Martin


Martin! That got it! Wow. Sometimes I'm amazed how this group makes me 
realize how dumb I am. ;-)  I simply uninstalled and re-installed Google 
Desktop Search, and it appears all is well.  THANK YOU, and everyone 
here for making my world a little closer to perfect today.


-George
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Re: Failure to install SeaMonkey 2.0

[CarolinaBill]

On Nov 2, 7:46 pm, Arnie Goetchius  wrote:
> CarolinaBill wrote:
> > I am using Windows XP Pro in each computer, and the only
> > variation I can think of is that I have my profiles in a non-standard
> > location on a different hard drive.  However, I would think that if
> > SeaMonkey could not find my old profile, it would at least provide me
> > with a default new one.  Suggestions ?
>
> Try reading this:
>
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

It is all very well to learn about migrating profiles if SeaMonkey is
open, but I can't get it to even open or to display the migration
wizard.  I tried again today to install disabling all my firewalls
(Comodo) and the Resident Shield on my AVG8 anti-virus program.  No
change. Again the installation proceeded through to the finish stage.
Then if I clicked on a desktop icon or on SeaMonkey.exe in Program
Files, I have a momentary hour-glass appear by the cursor arrow, then
disappear leaving a screen that does not show any activity at all.
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Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth

[Bill Davidsen]

NoOp wrote:

On 11/01/2009 05:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

Not sure what the issue might be Bill. I've migrated 4 machines (linux)
from 1.1.18 to 2.0 and _all_ have no issues accessing
news.eternal-september.org (port 563/SSL). I've 2 test machines that
have yet to be migrated & I'll see if I can get them done this weekend &
let you know if they have issues. Have you tried from a different profile?

Yes. Tried different profile, machine, etc. Works from 1.1.18 every time, not 
from 2.0 any time.


Bill, getting back to why I think it's a profile issue; just tested SM
2.0 w/new install on a machine that never had SM installed on it
previously - no issues. You'll find my test post (along with the Windows
one) in eternal-september.test - news.eternal-september.org: "Test from
SM 2.0".

Windows:
From: NoOp 
Newsgroups: eternal-september.test
Subject: Test from SM 2.0
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:26:12 -0800
...
Message-ID: 
...
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0

Linux:
From: NoOp 
Newsgroups: eternal-september.test
Subject: Re: Test from SM 2.0
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:12:42 -0800
...
Message-ID: 
References: 
...
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0

So not sure what the issue could be on your system. However, for the
sake of keeping this thread to a minimum, I'll be happy to test other
scenarios if you'll contact me directly (just drop the .invalid from the
email address & keep the same subject so that I don't automatically drop
the msg in the spam filters). I can test on linux (ubuntu 9.04 & 9.10 -
gnome only, I'm alergic to kde), WinXPPro & Win2KPro (both fully updated).

I noted the test I made, new profile, new install with no migration, even new 
Fedora in a fresh virtual machine. All behave the same. No clue... :-(


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still can't download 2.0 on Mac

[suze l'fox]

Left a copy of message below so you know the history. First, removed all 
cookies. Can't find anything about how to remove history. 

Second: Removed all cookies. Tried to download again without luck. Get this 
message:

Following disk images failed to mount: SeaMonkey 2.0 dr because corrupt image.

Suze, SWIN

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:48 +0100
From: Martin Freitag 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

suze l'fox schrieb:
> Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
> message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
> reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
> What on earth is wrong?

Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

 Suze, zone 6, SW IN



  
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cookies not accepted in 2.0 SM

[jack]

I have a problem where sites  that you have to sign into like yahoo mail 
and others say that to turn on cookies then try again.

I have it set up to accept all even 3rd party and it still does not work.
has not worked for me in previous versions either.
anyone have a clue or work around?
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Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth

[chicagofan]

LR wrote:

On Nov 1, 5:59 pm, chicagofan  wrote:

lr...@superlink.net wrote:

I have a problem that has the same symptoms that started after I
installed SM 2.0.  I had to sign on to my google(tm) account to post
here. Suggestions?


I think maybe I spoke too soon now, although I have read many users
posting that have nntp access on Linux and Windows with no problems.  :\

What messages are you getting?  Same as the OP?


Yes.  It seems like I have the same behavior.



What news servers aren't working for you?


I'm trying to post using newsread.uslec.net



Do you have any extensions or security programs that might be interfering?


I have Zone Alarm running. Seemed ok with the previous version I had
installed which was, I think, 1.1.18.

What O/S or platform are you using?

Win XP.



Check to make sure all your news server settings are correctly set,
individually [i.e., I have 2 news server that require no authentication,
but one does].


I've tried both ways. BTW, when I first installed 2.0 I had to fiddle with
the settings for email, unchecking the user name and password setting for the
outgoing SMTP server.



I seem to remember that I had a similar problem with mail connections,
after my *first* update to SM 2.0 beta.  Something had changed my outgoing
SMTP settings to require secure settings.


I think what I just described above.


Plus, you should add your experience w/ more details to the bug that has
been filed by Bill Davidsen:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525649


Ok, I did that too.

LR



Did you see Gabrielle's message which said, her problems went away after she
deleted her existing news account, and set it up again?   Have you tried that?
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Re: Another newbie Q

[JeffM]

Lou wrote:
>Does SM identify itself as FF
>
If the site developer is competent,
the browser SHOULDN'T have to do stupid things like that.

>or something safe to sites that check browsers?
>
The default feed from a site
should be a standards-compliant page.
The only browser that *should* need to be sniffed for
is the one with the LOUSY standards compliance.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Trident_-_Internet_Explorer

Web developers who do otherwise are morons.
Unfortunately, it's the 99 percent of incompetent Web developers
who make the others look bad.
There is a tool in the suite to deal with this situation:
"Report Broken Websites".
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

[Jeff Wieland]

I've been working on compiling Seamonkey 2.0 on SPARC Solaris 10.  By
building various GTK+ related pieces, I've been able to actually get
it to compile.  Running it is another story, so far all I'm getting
are core dumps.  But, I did notice the following:

$ /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey --version
Mozilla SeaMonkey 2.1a1pre, Copyright (c) 1998-2009 mozilla.org

I'm wondering if I'm downloading the wrong tarball?  I just
redownloaded it to check -- what I'm downloading is

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.0/source/seamonkey-2.0.source.tar.bz2
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Re: migrating profiles to a certain location

[Jens Hatlak]

seam...@taz.de wrote:

Does anybody know to force seamonkey 2 to create the new migrated
profile on a preconfigured location?


You could modify profiles.ini directly to specify an absolute path for 
the new profile. I don't know whether SM will create the path upon 
migration so you might want to do that yourself in advance.



Another question: What does seamonkey check before starting the
migration? Why does the cmdlineargument "-migrate" not always start the
migration?


Because it's wrong, -migration is correct and should work in combination 
with -P .


HTH

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Re: Profile Transfer Dilemma

[Jens Hatlak]

Thomas H. George wrote:

I am trying to transfer a profile from iceape to seamonkey2 on 64 bit
system runing Debian Squeeze following mozillaZine "Moving Your Profile
Folder" article.


That's not the ideal guide since it assumes a transfer of profiles for 
the same major version which doesn't apply here. Instead, read this:





Path=/home/tom/.mozilla/tom
(...)
but if I start seamonkey it treats this as a new empty profile.


That's because SM 1.1 and SM 2 handle profiles differently. The path in 
profiles.ini points directly to the actual profile folder while SM 1.1 
usually stores the actual profile data in a folder below the one that is 
named like the profile, e.g. /home/tom/.mozilla/tomtom/abc123de45.slt/ - 
anyway, for the switch from 1.1 to 2.0 profile migration as described on 
the page accessible through the link I gave above is recommended instead 
of messing with profiles.ini.


HTH

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2009 10:45 AM, Jeff Wieland wrote:
> I've been working on compiling Seamonkey 2.0 on SPARC Solaris 10.  By
> building various GTK+ related pieces, I've been able to actually get
> it to compile.  Running it is another story, so far all I'm getting
> are core dumps.  But, I did notice the following:
> 
> $ /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey --version
> Mozilla SeaMonkey 2.1a1pre, Copyright (c) 1998-2009 mozilla.org
> 
> I'm wondering if I'm downloading the wrong tarball?  I just
> redownloaded it to check -- what I'm downloading is
> 
> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.0/source/seamonkey-2.0.source.tar.bz2

Have a look at this one:


Note: I've not downloaded to check just yet, but I believe that was the
one that was used to build the final 2.0. If not Jens or Barry, et al
will step in and advise otherwise.
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Re: Failure to install SeaMonkey 2.0

[Stephanie :]

I am having a similar problem. Last night I installed Seamonkey 2.0
over top of 1.1.18. The installation went well and at the end it
opened 2.0 and I used it for a while.

This morning I booted up my computer and opened Seamonkey only to find
that it is still 1.1.18!  Add/Remove programs shows 2.0 installed.
Searching the hard drive shows 2 installations: Program Files/
Seamonkey and Program Files/mozilla.org/Seamonkey, however the
Seamonkey.exe file in both of these only opens 1.1.18.

Is 2.0 a new kind of vaporware? ;-)

HP laptop running Windows XP Pro.



On Nov 2, 3:58 pm, CarolinaBill  wrote:
> I have been using Seamonkey 1.1.17 on three home computers.  Yesterday
> I tried to install Seamonkey 2.0 on a lap top and a desktop computer.
> In each case the installation proceeded without incident to the Finish
> screen.  With Launch program checked, I expected SeaMonkey to open,
> but nothing happened.  I clicked on the desktop icon.  I went to
> Program Files and clicked on seamonkey.exe.  Still nothing.  In both
> of these instances I installed over the top of my old version of
> Seamonkey which I have done in the past.  In case there was a problem
> with that, I uninstalled my old Seamonkey program as well as Seamonkey
> 2.0 and tried to install.  Same result.  I wound up uninstlling
> Seamonkey 2.0 from all computers and returned to my old 1.1.17
> version.  I am using Windows XP Pro in each computer, and the only
> variation I can think of is that I have my profiles in a non-standard
> location on a different hard drive.  However, I would think that if
> SeaMonkey could not find my old profile, it would at least provide me
> with a default new one.  Suggestions ?

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Re: Another newbie Q

[Lou]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Lou schrieb:

Does SM identify itself as FF or something safe to sites that check
browsers?


It identifies as Seamonkey of course and reports pretty much the same
Gecko-engine as FF does. If a website sniffs for the gecko "correctly"
everything will be fine.
As some sites don't do that feel free to add
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.spoof in about:config with the value
of "NOT Firefox/3.5.4" or similar.

Also the prefbar has a nice user-agent switcher which alows you to
switch in case needed: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/

regards
Martin


Thanks

So now the Q is will Bank of America website work with SM for online 
banking>

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[Steve]

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.



Wow, you showed them.

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Re: Win XP copy function

[S. Beaulieu]

nickfruscello wrote:


Recently, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 RC and noticed that the copy
function does not work.  I tried Ctrl+C, choosing Edit and then copy,
right click copy and none of them worked.  I uninstalled the browser
completely, reinstalled it with the current 2.0 version on the front
page and I'm still having this problem.  I'm using Windows XP
professional service pack 3.



I'm having the exact same problem at work, where we are still running 
Win2k. And it's not only in the navigator: the copy function doesn't 
work in Mail either. It's a major functionality, so let's just say that 
right now, my coworkers are not happy campers...


S.
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SM 2.0: Threaded message display order

[Rex]

I've set all my views in mail/news to show only unread messages. Today I 
also turned on threaded view.
I found that a reply to a post I had made earlier showed up as the 
parent, while my original post appeared below it as a child post- 
instead of vice versa as one would expect.

In unthreaded mode, mails were sorted by ascending order of date.
Anyone else seen this?




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Re: Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

[William Morrison]

OK, I did what you suggested and reinstalled 1.1.18 over itself and all 
is still good with it and installed 2.0 to a new directory named 
Seamonkey2.0. Now here's where it get interesting, I checked the profile 
manager in 1.1.18 and it list no profile and if I try to create a new 
one 1.1.18 opens as if it is a new install i.e. no bookmarks, no email, 
so I check profile manager in 2.0 and it shows a profile named "Default 
User2", that's one I had created from the previous install of 2.0 but 
when I do a search with Windows search using just the keyword "Default" 
it finds every other occurrence of the word default except that one on 
any of the four hard drives I have on this computer. This is really 
getting confusing I think I might just do like some of the others 
have said and stay with 1.1.18 until the next version of Seamonkey comes 
out unless it requires me to install 2.0 before I can upgrade to 
anything newer and if that happens I might as well switch back to 
Eudora, I've had people tell me it just laughs at viruses because it 
can't open them and just deletes them.



Martin Freitag wrote:

Maybe try to install SM1.1.18 again over the old SM1.1.x to make sure
it's properly registered.
After that install SM2 to a new folder and have a look if the migration
succeeds.
If everything fails again I would suggest that you re-create your
mail-accounts in SM2 completely then close SM2 and copy your
mail-box-conainer files from the SM1.1.18 profile to the new SM2 profile.
regards

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Bug: SM 2.0 went *poof* on expanding a newsgroup folder..

[Rex]

This has happened to me twice so far- first while expanding a newsgroup 
with the view set to 'unread messages' I was left looking at the crash 
reporter window.
The second time was with my Gmail IMAP account, folder view again set to 
unread only.

FWIW, the news server uses an encrypted connection.





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Re: Lemme Try This Again

[cciaffone]

Marcelo wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 2/11/2009 21:38, cciaffone told the world:

There's this web site I go to. I requires an ID and a
password. With sm 1.1.18 it ALWAYS requires an ID and
a password to get into the Main Page.

But with sm 2, somehow I always bypass the ID and
password, and go directly to the Main Page.

It *might* be that for some reason you set up your old Seamonkey to
accept cookies only for the current session -- so next time you visited,
your cookies had been deleted.

If you allowed the new Seamonkey install to save cookies, it might take
a while until those cookies expire.



Yep, you got it. I went into the Preferences on the SM 1.1.18 machine
and jiggered the cookies stuff. Now I never have to log into the
site. Just click the URL and I am in.

Thanks for the hint.

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Re: I cannot find

[Martin Freitag]

Richard Lee Holbert schrieb:
> 
> 
> Bernard Mercier wrote:
>> Richard Lee Holbert vient de nous annoncer :
>>> a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
>>> 2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.
>> Go the the SeaMonkey's home page.
>>
> I did and 2.0 is there but could not find any other version. I will go
> and look again

There's even a link to 1.1.18 which throws you down the page...
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

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Re: I cannot find

[Richard Lee Holbert]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:



Bernard Mercier wrote:

 Richard Lee Holbert vient de nous annoncer :

 a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
 2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.

 Go the the SeaMonkey's home page.


I did and 2.0 is there but could not find any other version. I will go
and look again


  -JW


Thanks, it is appreciated

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Re: I cannot find

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:



Bernard Mercier wrote:

 Richard Lee Holbert vient de nous annoncer :

 a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
 2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.

 Go the the SeaMonkey's home page.


I did and 2.0 is there but could not find any other version. I will go
and look again


  -JW
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Re: I cannot find

[Richard Lee Holbert]

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Richard Lee Holbert vient de nous annoncer :

a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Go the the SeaMonkey's home page.

I did and 2.0 is there but could not find any other version. I will go 
and look again

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Re: Win XP copy function

[nickfruscello]

> No, copy and paste works fine on XP SP3 here.
> Are you using a certain application on both PCs which might interfere?
>
> Martin

The computer is my workstation at my office, the other is my netbook
at home.  Both are pretty different.  The only program on both
computers is Firefox.

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Re: Another newbie Q

[Martin Freitag]

Lou schrieb:
> Does SM identify itself as FF or something safe to sites that check
> browsers?

It identifies as Seamonkey of course and reports pretty much the same
Gecko-engine as FF does. If a website sniffs for the gecko "correctly"
everything will be fine.
As some sites don't do that feel free to add
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.spoof in about:config with the value
of "NOT Firefox/3.5.4" or similar.

Also the prefbar has a nice user-agent switcher which alows you to
switch in case needed: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/

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Re: Migrating a Profile

[Bernard Mercier]

James a pensé très fort :


Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:41:57 -0400
From: cciaffone
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Migrating a Profile
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

desertgal wrote:



>  When I install SM2 with SM1 in place, SM2 won't run.


I am having that problem now. No matter which icon
I click, even the seamonkey.exe executable in the
sm 2 folder, when sm starts and I click Help>About
it always comes up 1.1.18. Must I uninstall 1.1.18
to get 2.0 to run??
I think that neither version will work as long as the other is running so you need to make 
sure that nothing of 1.1.18 is running in order to run 2.0.  For example, are you using quick 
start in 1.1.18?


Try looking at processes in task manager and make sure nothing that says "Seamonkey" is 
running then try 2.0.



Or try booting into safe mode and see if 2.0 will run [I don't know if it will 
or not].



Luck.
James
.
.

Thread rearranged to have the prefered bottom posting here.

Yes, James is right, even the quick start of 1.1.18 should be exited for 2.0 to 
run.
I had that experience.

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Re: I cannot find

[Bernard Mercier]

Richard Lee Holbert vient de nous annoncer :

a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Go the the SeaMonkey's home page.

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Re: Downloaded 2.0

[Martin Freitag]

Phillip Jones schrieb:
> 
> But unlike before there is no way to edit typing errors and mistakes.

Just select an entry you don't want and hit the Del key.

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Re: Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

[Martin Freitag]

Maybe try to install SM1.1.18 again over the old SM1.1.x to make sure
it's properly registered.
After that install SM2 to a new folder and have a look if the migration
succeeds.
If everything fails again I would suggest that you re-create your
mail-accounts in SM2 completely then close SM2 and copy your
mail-box-conainer files from the SM1.1.18 profile to the new SM2 profile.
regards

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I cannot find

[Richard Lee Holbert]

a location to download 1.18 of Seamonkey.
2.0 has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Backing-Up Cookies

[David E. Ross]

I want to backup my cookies.  When I'm through with a session, I then
want to restore their old values and not keep any changed values.  I
also want to delete any new cookies.

Can I merely backup cookies.sqlite?  Or do I also have to backup
cookies.sqlite-journal?

Note:  If I establish the cookies and their values that I want, changing
the preference for Cookie Retention Policy from "Accept cookies
normally" to "Accept for current session only" seems to also apply to
the old cookies that got changed values.

-- 
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Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SM and Google Desktop Search

[Martin Freitag]

George Carden schrieb:
> 
> OK, if no one knows the answer to this, can anyone tell us if there is a
> "desktop search" application that does work with both the browser and
> e-mail functions of Seamonkey 2.0?

This is rather a GDS-issue than a seamonkey issue, I would recomend
asking them why it doesn't index.

btw: Seamonkey uses the same container-format as Thunderbird, have you
tried following their suggestions?
http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=16892

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Re: Win XP copy function

[Martin Freitag]

nickfruscello schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> Recently, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 RC and noticed that the copy
> function does not work.  I tried Ctrl+C, choosing Edit and then copy,
> right click copy and none of them worked.  I uninstalled the browser
> completely, reinstalled it with the current 2.0 version on the front
> page and I'm still having this problem.  I'm using Windows XP
> professional service pack 3.  Interestingly enough, I have Windows
> Vista at home and the copy paste function works fine.  I installed
> Seamonkey fresh on another Windows XP machine and it had the same
> problem.  Is this a problem with XP?


No, copy and paste works fine on XP SP3 here.
Are you using a certain application on both PCs which might interfere?

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2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[Jim]

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the "feel" and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.
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migrating profiles to a certain location

[seamon2]

Hi,
I have to migrate a lot of seamonkey- userprofiles and want to save them 
in a certain location.
The current 1.1.8 - profiles of the windows-users are all located on 
their homedrive, lets say h:\seamonkeyprofile, because they use a 
special registry.dat in their %appdata%\mozilla.

This makes it easy to generate a preconfigured profile for new users.

Does anybody know to force seamonkey 2 to create the new migrated 
profile on a preconfigured location?


I tried to edit profiles.ini and the \greprefs\all.js  in the 
programmfolder but whithout success.


Another question: What does seamonkey check before starting the 
migration? Why does the cmdlineargument "-migrate" not always start the 
migration?


all.js Line 969 ff:
pref("profile.confirm_automigration",true);
// profile.migration_behavior determines how the profiles root is set
// 0 - use NS_APP_USER_PROFILES_ROOT_DIR
// 1 - create one based on the NS4.x profile root
// 2 - use, if not empty, profile.migration_directory otherwise same as 0
pref("profile.migration_behavior",0);
pref("profile.migration_directory", "");

Thanks for tips or useful links,
Gerd
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Win XP copy function

[nickfruscello]

Hello,

Recently, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 RC and noticed that the copy
function does not work.  I tried Ctrl+C, choosing Edit and then copy,
right click copy and none of them worked.  I uninstalled the browser
completely, reinstalled it with the current 2.0 version on the front
page and I'm still having this problem.  I'm using Windows XP
professional service pack 3.  Interestingly enough, I have Windows
Vista at home and the copy paste function works fine.  I installed
Seamonkey fresh on another Windows XP machine and it had the same
problem.  Is this a problem with XP?
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Re: SM and Google Desktop Search

[George Carden]

George Carden wrote:

In 2007 Horst asked this question below regarding Seamonkey version 1.
Shanti Rao answered below. Now...Shanti, or anyone...Can this be done
with SM 2.0? I tried the same procedure as below within the Seamonkey
program folder (not Mozilla as it was with 1.0), but it didn't work.
Help? Thanks...

-George



On Jun 21, 3:34 pm, horst39  wrote:

Is there any way to force Google Desktop Search to scan SM emails?
Thank you
Horst


0. Exit SeaMonkey and Google Desktop Search
1. Open up "C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search"
2. Open up "C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\Seamonkey\components"
3. Copy GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll, GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.js, and
GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.xpt from #1 to #2
4. Run cmd.exe
5. Type: cd "C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\Seamonkey\components"
6. Type: ..\regxpcom
7. Restart SeaMonkey




OK, if no one knows the answer to this, can anyone tell us if there is a 
"desktop search" application that does work with both the browser and 
e-mail functions of Seamonkey 2.0?


Thanx,
George
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Mail issues with version 2.0 installation

[Marisa Ciceran]

I have been a faithful user of SeaMonkey and all its predecessors going 
back to the early 1990s. Currently, I have version 1.1.18 installed on 
my system and two days ago I downloaded and installed version 2 - 
immediately running into an unexpected and totally avoidable problem.


I expected the installation to follow the usual procedure of deleting 
the prior working version and overriding the desktop icons, as in prior 
upgrades. It did not do so, thereby causing a conflict with incoming 
mails which arrived in version 2.0 on the first session right after 
installation, then yo version 1.1.18 on the next and subsequent openings 
of SeaMonkey Mail, leaving me with mails to be transferred over. I have 
not yet fully recovered from this unwarranted problem which an 
instruction/warning during the installation and/or during "import" phase 
of the installation 2.0 would have prevented, and so would have new 
icons on the desktop.


I have one other smaller, but significant problem. While I have not had 
much time yet to investigate what has changed besides that some add-ons 
no longer work and the look of the icons and smileys is different (the 
new smileys are awful!), I did notice right away that the mails status 
bar no longer shows that the program is downloading incoming mails. Can 
anyone tell me whether that feature will be brought back? I am not a 
FireFox/Thunderbird user (I dislike and uninstalled Firefox), and the 
loss of this feature may force me to scrap SeaMonkey 2.0 to go back to 
1.1.18.


Thank you,

Marisa
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Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

[William Morrison]

Ok, here's the deal. I'm running XP SP3 have a good working 
Seamonkey1.1.18 but can't get it's profile to migrate to 2.0 I've 
followed all the instructions but still no good. I've got my bookmarks 
moved over but can't import my mail settings, every time I try to import 
my mail 2.0 only gives me the option to move mail from Thunderbird which 
I've never had. I've tried the command line approach of -P and 
-migration but neither have helped. I've never had this much trouble 
setting up a program before wasn't there some way for the project to 
just have 2.0 do this itself like 1.1.18 and all previous upgrades did. 
This is getting frustrating I like Mozilla and have been using their 
products since Netscape 4.0 and used it right up until, what was it 8.0 
turn it into IE, which sucked, but this is ridiculous. It's just a 
single user computer so this should be this hard!!!


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Re: Downloaded 2.0

[Phillip Jones]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Richard Lee Holbert schrieb:

of SeaMonkey and I cannot find the form fill option in the browser.
Has it been wiped out in the new 2.0 ?



Yes and no. Not exactly but changed very very much. Just click in a form
field twice or start typing, it will offer all possibilities which were
previously entered then.
regards

Martin


But unlike before there is no way to edit typing errors and mistakes.

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Another newbie Q

[Lou]

Does SM identify itself as FF or something safe to sites that check 
browsers?

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Re: Cannot Install Seamonkey 2.0?

[Lou]

Bernard Mercier wrote:

James a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
To me a h*ll of a lot of things in Vista seem "funny" [as in odd, 
counter intuitive].  How/when/why "administrator" needs to be called 
on my pc where no one except me has access is still a puzzle.  But 
then I'm NOT a geek...



James
.
.

It is to protect you against yourself for doing stupid things. lol


Administrator is to "protect" grandparents from the brats.
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Re: Potable SM Q

[Lou]

Benoit Renard wrote:

Lou wrote:

Potable SM Q


No, you can't drink SeaMonkey.


LOL  Oops

I did not even notice till you did.

Lou
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Re: Cannot Install Seamonkey 2.0?

[Bernard Mercier]

James a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
To me a h*ll of a lot of things in Vista seem "funny" [as in odd, counter intuitive].  
How/when/why "administrator" needs to be called on my pc where no one except me has access is 
still a puzzle.  But then I'm NOT a geek...



James
.
.

It is to protect you against yourself for doing stupid things. lol

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Re: Potable SM Q

[Benoit Renard]

Lou wrote:

Potable SM Q


No, you can't drink SeaMonkey.
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Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

[Benoit Renard]

Phillip Jones wrote:

I've always had JavaScript enabled for mail and news since back in
Netscape navigator days and not once have I had a problem with
JavaScript. I am aware there are supposed to be issues with JavaScript.
But I've never experienced them.


Please think of another argument for your case, as this one isn't worth 
anything.

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Re: Download Manager always logs downloaded files: why ?

[Hartmut Figge]

Gabriele:

>So I think there should be no trace at all of my downloaded files in the 
>download manager...

You could use these settings.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/do091103.png (41 KB)

Hartmut
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Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

[Benoit Renard]

Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:


javascript.allow.mailnews;false

But maybe it got carried over with the transfer from 1.1.18?

someone had not said something maybe , it will be safe. Now there will 
be a concerted attack to remove it.


Are you almost done translating our concern for security as 
opportunities to remove features? Seriously, stop it.

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Re: Potable SM Q

[Lou]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 3/11/2009 08:54, Lou told the world:
Using XP (SP2) can I d/l portable SM and install on a USB drive then use 
it on a Vista system?  Win 7 system?


Yes. Portable software don't care much about which version of Windows
you are using -- some of them might work even on Windows 9x. As long as
the computer fulfills the minimum system requirements of the software,
you should be fine -- for SM2, that would be Windows 2000. So you should
be fine using Portable SM2 in Win2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008 or 7.



Thank You
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Re: Software security Master Password

[BeeNeR]

On or about 11/2/2009 11:14 PM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:
> BeeNeR wrote:
>> On or about 11/2/2009 9:53 PM, Rufus typed the following:
>>> BeeNeR wrote:
 On or about 11/2/2009 1:46 AM, Rufus typed the following:
> Phillip Jones wrote:
>> Gabriele wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones ha scritto:
 Gabriele wrote:
> HilsB ha scritto:
> /snip/
>> Yes - BTW, I loaded 2.0 on a machine where I work.  And it's never asked
>> for a master password.  Straight download and install.  Set up one
>> e-mail account with no problems and so far it's never asked for a master
>> password.  It asked for an account password the first time I read mail,
>> told it to remember, and it's never asked again.
>>
> 
> Just to be clear, did you actually set up a master password for this
> profile?
> 
> Lrr

On this machine, yes; on the work machine, no.  Since I am the sole user
on both machines (both on Win XP) and do not keep anything personal
(banking, financial, medical, etc) or embarrassing (porn, etc), on
either machine I have no need for any local passwords of any type except
those needed for accessing mail, newsgroups, and sites like Yahoo.
SpamCop, etc.

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Download Manager always logs downloaded files: why ?

[Gabriele]

Hello,

why does the Download Manager always keep a list of downloaded files, even 
if I set to "remove when they have completed" ?

Better, I dont' use the DL manager at all, my configuration is:
- open a progress window
- always ask me where to save
- remove downloads when they have completed

So I think there should be no trace at all of my downloaded files in the 
download manager...


Gabriele
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Re: Potable SM Q

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 3/11/2009 08:54, Lou told the world:
> Using XP (SP2) can I d/l portable SM and install on a USB drive then use 
> it on a Vista system?  Win 7 system?

Yes. Portable software don't care much about which version of Windows
you are using -- some of them might work even on Windows 9x. As long as
the computer fulfills the minimum system requirements of the software,
you should be fine -- for SM2, that would be Windows 2000. So you should
be fine using Portable SM2 in Win2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008 or 7.


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Potable SM Q

[Lou]

Using XP (SP2) can I d/l portable SM and install on a USB drive then use 
it on a Vista system?  Win 7 system?


TIA

Lou
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Re: Downloaded 2.0

[Martin Freitag]

Richard Lee Holbert schrieb:
> of SeaMonkey and I cannot find the form fill option in the browser.
> Has it been wiped out in the new 2.0 ?


Yes and no. Not exactly but changed very very much. Just click in a form
field twice or start typing, it will offer all possibilities which were
previously entered then.
regards

Martin
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Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac

[Martin Freitag]

suze l'fox schrieb:
> Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a
> message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed. I've tried to
> reload, tried to reboot - tried everything I know but stand on my head.
> What on earth is wrong?

Have you tried emptying the cache?
regards

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Re: need help with SeaMonkey and Mac

[Hartmut Figge]

suze l'fox:

> Every time I try to download SeaMonkey 2.0 on my Mac, I receive a 
> message the 'image' is corrupt and the download failed.

You should provide the exact URL to this SM.

> I'm frustrated

Isn't life interesting? :)

Hartmut
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