[Bug 1720010] [NEW] can't log into Gnome - terminal or Unity work fine

2017-09-27 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Public bug reported:

When launching my computer, I get the login screen. On entering my
password, I get a small flicker of the screen and am not logged in. I
can log in using the terminal (Alt-F2).

Inspection of /var/log/auth.log suggests that interface, member and some
other data are not correctly transmitted from the login manager to
systemd-logind.

After installing Unity, I can log into unity.

When reading /var/log/auth.log, I see these lines:

Sep 27 20:48:32 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.24" (uid=121 pid=948 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")
Sep 27 20:48:32 bigmomma dbus[764]: message repeated 18 times: [ [system] 
Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 
pid=739 comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" 
member="(unset)" error name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.24" (uid=121 pid=948 
comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")]
Sep 27 21:17:01 bigmomma CRON[3642]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for 
user root by (uid=0)
Sep 27 21:17:01 bigmomma CRON[3642]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for 
user root
Sep 27 22:17:01 bigmomma CRON[3686]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for 
user root by (uid=0)
Sep 27 22:17:01 bigmomma CRON[3686]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for 
user root
Sep 27 22:40:25 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.24" (uid=121 pid=948 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")
Sep 27 22:40:25 bigmomma dbus[764]: message repeated 18 times: [ [system] 
Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 
pid=739 comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" 
member="(unset)" error name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.24" (uid=121 pid=948 
comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")]
Sep 27 22:40:36 bigmomma gdm-password]: pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session 
opened for user jurgen by (uid=0)
Sep 27 22:40:36 bigmomma systemd-logind[739]: New session 10 of user jurgen.
Sep 27 22:40:36 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 
name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" 
destination=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=3735 comm="/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt4 -displayfd 
3 -auth /run/use")
Sep 27 22:40:37 bigmomma dbus[764]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="error", sender=":1.0" (uid=0 pid=739 
comm="/lib/systemd/systemd-logind ") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error 

[Bug 1686345] Re: apt-get libmagick++-6.q16-6v6 depend missing

2017-05-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Correction - when trying to install "inkscape" from the Trunk PPA
(inkscape-trunk installs fine)

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[Bug 1686345] Re: apt-get libmagick++-6.q16-6v6 depend missing

2017-05-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I am having the same issue when installing Inkscape Trunk:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 inkscape : Depends: libmagick++-6.q16-6v6 (>= 8:6.9.2.3) but it is not 
installable
Recommends: libwmf-bin
Recommends: perlmagick
Recommends: python-numpy but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: python-scour but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: python-uniconvertor but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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[Bug 1639527] Re: inkscape_0.91.0+51~ubuntu16.10.1 from ppa:inkscape.dev/stable is not installable

2016-11-23 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I have installed the Stable Inkscape PPA

Could it be as simple as to create a symlink from libpoppler61 to
libpoppler58 as a temporary workaround?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Android files Ubuntu

2016-01-02 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Samuel,

I'd be hesitant to go rooting my phone. For starters, because Android is
basically a crippled down version of Linux, in that way that it's not
made to have a seperate sudo account. So if you give yourself root
powers, any hack on your phone can touch the whole phone (and wreck it).

By rooting it, you're basically taking away the Linux security Android
has...

Grtz,
Jurgen

On 22-12-15 17:56, 9...@skynet.be wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to view all files (also the system files) that stay on my
> android smart phone in Ubuntu. I don't know if it is smart to do, but I
> want to delete some files, because I believe there is stay some 'crap'
> on it.
> 
> I have found 'QtADB'. Someone experience with it or know another program?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Samuel
> 
> -
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> Ik zou graag alle bestanden (ook de systeem bestanden) die op mijn
> Android smartphone staan bekijken.
> 
> Er staan volgens mij zaken op die er niet op hoeven te staan en deze wil
> ik eens verwijderen.
> 
> Alvast bedankt !
> 
> Samuel
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] 3d printer

2016-01-02 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Samuel,

What's your plan? Where do you live? Do you have to print something once
for a specific project? Or do you plan on regularly printing?
In Brussels we have a hackerspace (hackerspace.be) with a 3D printer.
If I recall correctly, the hackerspace in Antwerp also has a 3D printer.
There's also the  fablabs in Ghent, Hasselt, Brussels (and probably
others too  - just google for fablab)

Possibly you can have a look here for people who can print for you:
https://www.3dhubs.com

If you really want quality and help with the design too, you could look
into cr3do.be (a Hasselt startup specialized in creating and 3D
printing). A few of them are friends of mine, they're really skilled.

So now on the question what software you'll have to use:

For designing, I tend to use FreeCAD, but others prefer OpenSCAD (more
programming like approach). If you're already fluent with Blender, you
can also do magic things with that, but Blender is quite complicated. I
guess you can find tutorials online on how to use Blender for 3D
printing. Anyways, your desired output from your design software will be
a .STL file.

For prepping the design to the printer, you'll also be needing something
to translate the design into printed layers (and machine commands for
the printer). For this step, you'll have to know what hardware your
using, and make some decisions on resolution versus printing time.
Typical prints on a 3D printer vary somewhere between 2 and 48 hours...

For this last step, there's a few nice applications that work just fine
under Ubuntu. There's Slic3r and there's Cura to name the 2 most famous.
The first one is most powerful, the last one is more user friendly. If
you're new to the game, I'd suggest you look into Cura. It can also show
a simulation, and will show an estimate on how long a print will take
(notice: in my experience, it was always about 25% too optimistic)

Good luck and welcome in the 3D printing world!

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 02-01-16 18:35, 9...@skynet.be wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Does somebody have experience with 3d printing? If I want to make a 3d
> object, what software should I use in Ubuntu?
> 
> And if you know a company who print parts for a reasonable price for
> customers, please tell me.
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Samuel
> 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for participation: lightning talks and stands]

2014-09-30 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
If someone makes it happen, I can take a shift... otherwise, I'll be
volunteering for the FOSDEM crew.

Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 29-09-14 04:22, Jan Claeys (Ubuntu) wrote:
 In case anybody wants to organise an Ubuntu booth...
 
 
 Mvg,
 
 
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Yeps, I'm one of those goodbye and good luck people.

I was on the camp for a more structured Ubuntu-be for a long time, but 
painfully discovered that we were with too little dedicated people 
and/or too big plans. I am now in the camp of local groups do great 
things and Ubuntu-be is actually just an empty shell. It creates 
expectations in the public eye that we can not accomplish. imo it would 
be better to have no official (sounding) body as this actually 
negatively impacts Ubuntu. People expect help, support, presence, etc... 
and we can't deliver (as Ubuntu-be). There also is no spokesman or 
central vision for Ubuntu-be.


So as far as I'm concerned, I'm an enthusiastic Ubuntero. I love 
promoting Ubuntu. I will give support where I can, and every so often 
fail to help because I don't know enough too... I've been triggering 
Software Freedom Day for a  few years now in our hackerspace, and always 
gave Ubuntu a nice spot in there. But that's just me and our 
hackerspace, that's not Ubuntu-be.


The great events going on in Limburg, Izegem, etc... *woot* Great 
groups! They are Ubuntu in Belgium, but not Ubuntu-be :)
My suggestion would be to organize the funeral of Ubuntu-be and invite 
all the great groups doing Ubuntu in Belgium.


Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 01-05-14 07:49, kawabill wrote:
Tom, we're the only two responding this way. It can mean two things, 
we're both on an island, or indeed all other Ubuntu enthusiasts have 
said 'goodbye and good luck'.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Tom,

the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually 
kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these 
people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what 
(not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever 
Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...


If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will 
quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if 
you do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll 
be doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical 
figure called somebody we're all talking about and who'll do all the 
practical stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create 
content, etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.


Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is 
not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here 
will be able to tell you more details on this.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:


I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be 
http://ubuntu.be could be a commonplace for those using and or 
discovering ubuntu but more in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm 
saying this right, but i think you get the picture. There doesn't need 
to be a central person or spokesman imho. Makes it far too official. 
The first goal should be, in my humble opinion, to get people to 
discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could get more people 
discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk about 
it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, give support 
where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. 
Woot!!)
I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little 
islands, and use the net, list as our glue, who knows what can 
happen in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How 
does that work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a 
chance. What do you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just 
leave, and do something on our own? (I think we could achieve more 
together, but i'd like to hear your opinion). My 2 cents


Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef kawabill kawab...@telenet.be 
mailto:kawab...@telenet.be:


What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community,
stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an
invitation I had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to
the following page;
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings

No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages
it seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities
are still going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local
scale, but for me it is not visible whether all of this is
coordinated.

I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I
don't see any coordinated activity to get people over into the
Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.

Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm
wrong and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the
Ubuntu community?

Have a nice day.
Bill

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey Tom,

go ahead - organise it. :)
I failed. Better luck to you. I'll be glad to do my part.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:


Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain 
somebody should comprise out of more than one person. One person 
can't take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what 
i'm reading, for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There 
should be a team of somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in 
different locations. (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a 
central organ? To me that makes it too complicated already, and might 
create expectations, that cannot be fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, 
i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said. Now we have to figure out how 
to do this in a fun way, i guess.


Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef Jurgen Gaeremyn 
jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be:


Tom,

the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person
actually kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had
a few of these people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org
http://ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what (not)
to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...

If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will
quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even
more if you do a great job. If you're willing to take up this
commitment, you'll be doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is,
apparently this mythical figure called somebody we're all
talking about and who'll do all the practical stuff like maintain
the website, organise event booths, create content, etc... isn't
on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.

Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical
approval is not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm
assuming someone here will be able to tell you more details on this.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:


I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be
http://ubuntu.be could be a commonplace for those using and or
discovering ubuntu but more in a fun sort of way. Don't know if
i'm saying this right, but i think you get the picture. There
doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman imho. Makes it
far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble opinion,
to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we
could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm
concerned, i use ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i
think might be interrested, give support where i can and drop
leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. Woot!!)
I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
islands, and use the net, list as our glue, who knows what
can happen in the future? Is there still a connection with
canonical? How does that work? Hell, typing this gets me all
fired up to give this a chance. What do you guys think? Give it
some kind of try, or just leave, and do something on our own? (I
think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear your
opinion). My 2 cents

Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef kawabill kawab...@telenet.be
mailto:kawab...@telenet.be:

What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the
community, stating that he rather spent his time otherwise,
declining an invitation I had sent him. No problem of course,
but it took me to the following page;
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings

No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the
pages it seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know
activities are still going on, organized by enthusiasts on a
very local scale, but for me it is not visible whether all of
this is coordinated.

I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP
I don't see any coordinated activity to get people over into
the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.

Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know
I'm wrong and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside
of the Ubuntu community?

Have a nice day.
Bill



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey Merlijn... I'll be replying in your mail...

On 01-05-14 16:57, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote:

# My thoughts

I have never known the better times, since I joined this mailinglist 
only a few months ago. I do see reports from other loco teams around 
the world and they seem to be way more active than us. I personally 
find it very sad that*there isn't an ubuntu-be booth on fosdem*. I 
think next year, I'm going to try to make one, but I'll need the help 
of more ubuntu-be members. I think we need IRL meetings, because they 
make friendships stronger, and they make you feel more connected to 
the community.


2014 was the first year there was no Ubuntu-be booth on FOSDEM. The 
material is available. I also think there even is some budget (Jan 
Bongaerts, can you confirm?) We even invested in some rollups a few 
years ago because we thought we were be more active. There was a 
question on this mailinglist for volunteers - Sulumar actually asked 
about this on January 24th. He asked if there were volunteers.


JanC replied he announced not to be doing it anymore in 2013. That 
mythical figure called someone had to take it over. Didn't happen. A 
consequence of nobody taking up leadership, guarding that things happened.


Meetings IRL are great - it sparked a lot of energy in 2010-2012. But in 
the end the volunteers wanting to dive into Ubuntu-be were the same 
volunteers that were already involved in many projects. It's not easy to 
have IRL meetings if your members are scattered over the whole country 
and your key members all have busy agendas.


But then again... good luck, if the time is right you could just spark a 
new animo. Would be great. :)


# THE WEBSITE

To me, the site only serves *two purposes:*
 - Give *information* about ubuntu-be community: meetings, members, 
events, ..

 - Give *support in dutch*
Actually the only purpose of the Ubuntu-be site, was to facilitate the 
events we organise or visit. For support, we always refered to Ubuntu-NL 
or Ubuntu-FR (or others)


The fact that big chunks of the site aren't translated, is because no 
volunteers were found to translate.


Again... this creature called someone had lots of plans here...

I think for the support part, it is better we team up with the 
ubuntu-nl people. Their forum seems to be very active: 
http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/.
For the information part, we just need a very simple CMS that is easy 
to maintain.*I want to work on the new website myself*, but then I 
have to know how you guys want it to be.

you guys = undefined.

The current website is running Drupal. It's working and is pretty easy 
to maintain. Content is key here: nobody delivered content, resulting in 
a static site.


If you do it, you make it. I'd say: make it small, make it modest. Not 
much more than referral would be cool.


As for the Ubuntu-be support map: half a decade ago Mongolito wrote this 
great Drupal extension. But he lives in Canada now, and doesn't have 
time anymore to commit to this project.



# MY QUESTIONS TO YOU

1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015?


Since this year, I stepped into the FOSDEM volunteers team. I can split 
my time, but still want to see some content too...



2) Do you still use the website? If so, how?

Nope.


3) What information would you want to see on the new website?

N/A
I rather have *no* website than a website showing we're not active.



Op 1 mei 2014 15:25 schreef Alain Baudrez a.baud...@gmail.com 
mailto:a.baud...@gmail.com:



Sinds het wegvallen van de diprobeurs hier in Brugge heb ik zelf
geen contact meer met andere Ubunteros in het Brugse.

Vraag is, of een IRL samenkomst nog veel mensen aanspreekt of dat
ze liever alles online doen. In dat laatste geval zou er iets
moeten gedaan worden om onze website wat attractiever te maken,
want ik moet eerlijk toegeven dat wanneer ik bij iemand Ubuntu
installeer ik het Nederlandse ubuntu forum als 'place to ask
questions' aanraad en nooit onze website, daar die voor leken niet
veel hulp biedt.

Ook zou eens gekeken moeten worden naar de kaart met steunpunten
want ik vermoed dat er ook daar, net zoals hier, vele
'ghost'-accounts zijn.

Alain

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hi Jan,

come to think of it... maybe the easiest would be to just create a *new* 
bank account, and start with that one... I think we can get some 
donations quickly. If Marc then transfers the existing funds to the new 
account, it might just be easier than doing the transfer.
If we do this all through Keytrade bank (our current bank), I assume 
they won't be giving us a hassle over closing down the empty bank 
account. Otherwise leave €5 on it and that will be our 'hidden treasure' :)


As for the website... I have the impression that we have some people 
stepping up at the moment. Who can give these persons author rights? 
(and in extremis 1 person webmaster rights)


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 18:26, Jan Bongaerts wrote:

Hi Guys,
indeed there should be a budget somewhere, but I have no idea.
Mark Vandenborre still is the only one that can access the account.

Indeed we tried to have a few IRL meetings, and it was all good, but I 
have lost the energy to try and organise it.
I don't have the skills or expertise to maintain a site, and I think 
maintaining a good site is key to the success of the project.


So these are my two main frustrations
a) Active members cannot access the account, so we can't do anything 
when money is needed.
b) No-one is maintaining the site actively. We can't advertise who is 
actively involved, who to contact for what, etc. I'm supposed to be 
the LoCo contact, but how can I actively promote our group if the site 
doesn't reflect this? How can I actively lobby with press or 
government if I don't get a budget?


Most of the people that were at the IRL meetings, are not active 
anymore, and most of the people that are active now, were never at an 
IRL meeting.


If that magical someone would organise another IRL meeting, then I 
will do my best to attend.


Cheers,
Jan.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

2014-05-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
 already, and hail to he/she who came to
this point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and
get this going.
1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees
or cannot pick up;
a) kawabill
b) nero
c) Frank Neirynck
d) Tom Verlinden
e) Jan Bongaerts
f) Merlijn Sebrechts
g) Alain Daudrez
3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
4) Temporary fix;
aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one
I can pick up the action and can have it done within two
weeks, with regards to the old one whom can get the
responsible person to help organize it such that we have
multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update
or allow for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail
where I can come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th),
we can use Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help
build Open Meeting for Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and
coordinating, whom can help setup the technical side of it
all, Nero???)

Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and
when need please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really
good at using Drupal, I've build my own in HTML, but I sure
could help cleaning up and updating.

Your comments please?

Bill



On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:


Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this
certain somebody should comprise out of more than one
person. One person can't take this on his or her shoulders.
There's too much, from what i'm reading, for one person to do
and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different
locations. (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a
central organ? To me that makes it too complicated already,
and might create expectations, that cannot be fullfilled.
Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill
said. Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way,
i guess.

Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef Jurgen Gaeremyn
jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be:

Tom,

the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single
person actually kept his shoulders under the project. In
the past we had a few of these people. Thing is:
ubuntu-be.org http://ubuntu-be.org should set clear
expectations: what (not) to expect: a spokesman, the
official stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian activity,
guaranteed support, etc...

If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership,
you will quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5
and 10 or even more if you do a great job. If you're
willing to take up this commitment, you'll be doing
Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this
mythical figure called somebody we're all talking about
and who'll do all the practical stuff like maintain the
website, organise event booths, create content, etc...
isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.

Please, do give it a chance. First things first -
canonical approval is not a problem if you can prove
you're active. I'm assuming someone here will be able to
tell you more details on this.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:


I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe
ubuntu.be http://ubuntu.be could be a commonplace for
those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a fun
sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i
think you get the picture. There doesn't need to be a
central person or spokesman imho. Makes it far too
official. The first goal should be, in my humble
opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by
promoting this list we could get more people discovering
the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk
about it and show it to whoever i think might be
interrested, give support where i can and drop leaflets
in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. Woot!!)
I think

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader

2014-04-22 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Open a bank account at a different bank and transfer away €100 every 
month - tell them you'll repeat that till the account is empty. At that 
point you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds are they will 
become more eager :)


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:

Hello everyone.
Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there would more
chances that they will support it in the future.
If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.

Grtz,
Massimiliano.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2014

2014-01-30 Thread jurgen . gaeremyn
Heya, 

I'm going to FOSDEM, but I'm volunteering for FOSDEM. 

Grtz, 
Jurgen. 

- Oorspronkelijk bericht -

Van: DrSilk the01g...@gmail.com 
Aan: Ubuntu Belgium ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com 
Verzonden: Woensdag 29 januari 2014 09:43:14 
Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2014 



Well i for one will be there 

Sulumar 

Mike Morraye m...@morraye.be schrieb: 


Hi Sulumar, 

There has, as far as I know, not been a call for volunteers yet, what makes me 
suspect this'll be a year off. 
If I am mistaken, and there will be a booth, please correct me. 
As previous years, i'll be happy to lend a hand. 

How many of you will be at Fosdem? 

- Mike 


On 26 Jan 2014, at 22:24, sulumar the01g...@gmail.com wrote: 


blockquote
Hello everyone 

Just wanted to know if Ubuntu was represented at Fosdem this year and if 
so who would be in charge? 

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: Updates from ‘Ubuntu Edge’

2013-08-08 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I would really like to see this happen... but to be honest... I think 
this is basically a big marketing stunt. Setting 32 million USD as 
starting requirement and having such a steep deadline is almost 
guaranteed to not happen. This is a too big target to reach with 
crowdfunding.


If you want to gather this kind of money, crowdsourcing is not the way 
to go/start. You need to find corporate investors first (at least for 
50% of the goal), and then go advertise it. So yeah, they collected over 
8,000,000 - that's a record. But it's nothing if it's not gonna happen 
(unless they have some hidden million dollar sponsors out there waiting 
for the last minute, just to hype it).


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 08-08-13 08:19, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
Exciting to see they're getting their first corporate backing from 
Bloomberg.

I'm hoping it gives the campaign the necessary boost to get more support.

If you're still sitting on the fence and not usre if this project 
deserves your backing, have a look at the site again. There are new 
perks since their launch, and it might just be something for you.


Regards,
Jan.

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Date: 7 August 2013 23:05
Subject: Updates from ‘Ubuntu Edge’
To: jbongae...@gmail.com mailto:jbongae...@gmail.com


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Here’s an update for you from the Ubuntu Edge 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Skype start niet meer

2013-03-23 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

On 23-03-13 06:38, janochek wrote:

Goeie morgen allemaal.
Ik werk met Ubuntu 10.4 en sedert enige tijd start Skype niet meer.
Ik klik op het icoon en er gebeurt gewoon niets, ook geen fout melding.
Telkens moet ik Skype verwijderen en terug installeren, dan kan ik het 1
keer opstarten, zonder problemen en werkt het uitstekend. De volgende keer
moet ik het weer verwijderen en installeren.
Iemand enig idee wat hier aan de hand is?


Sorry hoor, geen idee wat er aan de hand is.
Als je een programma start vanaf het terminalvenster, krijg je vaak meer 
feedback. Je opent een terminalvenster, en typt skype.

Je ziet dan meer wat er gebeurt.

Voor technische vragen wil ik je graag suggereren naar ubuntu-nl te gaan 
voor hulp. Daar is er meer ervaring aanwezig op technisch niveau. Op 
Ubuntu-be zijn we (naast gedeeltellijk Franstalig, daarom spreken we 
hier doorgaans Engels, logisch toch?) vooral een praktische werkgroep 
voor het organiseren van zaken waarbij Ubuntu in België gepromoot kan 
worden.


Hopelijk ben je hiermee al een stap verder.

Groetjes,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website

2013-03-20 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

On 20-03-13 11:58, martijn cielen wrote:

Contrary to what Wouter wants us all to believe [ ;-) ], Drupal really
isn't that hard. Au contraire. It's one of the easiest systems (being
it an app, a cms or whatever) I've ever used in my 12 years as an ICT
professional.
I bet anyone in this mailing list can get the basics set up using
Drupal in 1 day. The speciallekes will obviously take a little longer,
but for anyone with decent php knowledge, this will be equally
hard/easy to do in Drupal as in raw php as in any other framework.

Maybe I should organise an introductory course to Drupal...

M

Wow... that's great! We found ourselves a volunteer! :)

We've been asking for volunteers to maintain the website half a dozen of 
times on the mailinglist in the last few years (though admittedly, I 
guess we dindn't repeat that question the last half year). Nobody stood 
up and offered his/her help on it.


If you want to work on the system in Drupal... by all means. I think we 
would all be happy if you did.
If you want to teach Wouter how to do it... then Wouter has to agree 
this is okay for him.


It's way to easy to say what the ideal path is... and we all agree it 
would be best to have a Drupal-guru working on the website. But we 
didn't find him up to present. Now don't go shooting Wouter for sticking 
out his neck and actually doing *something* (which is better than doing 
nothing the perfect way)


Grtz,
Jurgen.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] New LoCo Contact for Ubuntu Belgium

2013-02-13 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey Jan (C),

I would like to thank you in name of the Belgian Ubuntu community - you 
did a great job in the past.

How many years were you the LoCo contact?


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 13-02-13 17:04, Jan Claeys wrote:

Hello all,

Jan Bongaerts will take over from me as the new LoCo Contact for the
Belgian LoCoTeam.  He has been active in Ubuntu-be for several years,
and I'm sure he will be a good loco contact for us.

Also, don't worry, I am stepping down as the locoteam contact, but will
remain active in the locoteam and the wider ubuntu community.  :-)

Welcome, Jan!




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] FOSDEM booth volunteers

2013-01-16 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

On 16-01-13 20:07, Jan Claeys wrote:

Hi all,

As every year Ubuntu will have a booth at FOSDEM[1] (2-3 February), and
as always we can use some volunteers for the booth.  :)

We will also try to organize an Ubuntu dinner Saturday evening.

If you come to FOSDEM, want to help at the booth and/or participate in
the dinner, please add your name to the following wiki page:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2013

If you want to help at the booth, please also reply to this mail so that
I have your email address.

And of course, if you have any questions, please ask them in a reply
too!



[1] https://fosdem.org/2013/



You can count me in... I'll see what talks I want to see. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Silent computers' shop staat er klaar voor!-- Re: ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 82, Issue 16

2012-12-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Well,

I didn't consider the initial answer as spam - I did take it as a rather 
weak answer in the sense that there's no further help than only offering 
to make a sale.


I was hoping to get feedback in the sense of: I'm using *blabla* on my 
computer and *bla* on my Android device and it all works fine doing 
these steps: *blablabla* Or even: Buy this device: *SomeDevice*, it 
contains drivers for ubuntu In extremis it could be: let me google 
this for you: *keyword 1* *keyword 2* ...


Obviously, if the solution you're offering is something you developed 
in-house, and thus only offer to your customers... that's also an 
option, and then the shop is he place to be.


Well... but as disappointing as the answer was... the answer spammer 
didn't help me any further either.


Grtz,
Jurgen

On 21-12-12 13:25, tom verlinden wrote:
Is there a code of conduct, guidelines, on how to approach things 
like this?
What i'm trying to say is, what if you know a good link/shop/space 
that can help you?

What would be the appropriate action to take?

Needless to say i too disagree with spamming any list, but it's 
something i was asking myself just yet...



2012/12/21 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com mailto:mcie...@gmail.com

Jan,

frankly I don't give a *** what anyone (corporate or individual)
has done for anyone/anything when they abuse a mailing list to spam.
When I send messages to this list, I use my personal address, and
not my commercial one. Ideally, others should do the same.

Martijn

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Jan Bongaerts
jbongae...@gmail.com mailto:jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:

Easy now!
Silent Computers has done more for ubuntu-be than most.


2012/12/20 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com
mailto:mcie...@gmail.com

spammer

2012/12/20 Lesia Valèri lesiaval...@gmail.com
mailto:lesiaval...@gmail.com



Hi,
daar is de Silent computers' shop voor!
Stuurt die dame naar ons toe, wij zullen wel beste
oplossing voor vinden!

2012/12/19 Jurgen Gaeremyn jur...@gaeremyn.be
mailto:jur...@gaeremyn.be

  Hi...

 I was popped this question today... (and I'm
interested myself too).
 Anyone on our list who can help this lady?


  hi,
 does anybody know a good smartphone?
 (not too expensive  180 euro)
 which is easy to use and synchronize with ubuntu
12.04...
 thanks, M



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Silent computers' shop staat er klaar voor!-- Re: ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 82, Issue 16

2012-12-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Martijn,

there's something else too that people should be fighting in mailing 
lists... and that's trolls. People posting to a mailinglist without 
contributing to the topic, but in the contrary fueling an (off topic) 
discussion is considered trolling in my eyes.


Secondly: (not talking about this specific situation here) No matter how 
rude, stupid or wrong a person is... you *never* lower yourself to that 
same level. This will never solve anything.


As I already said... the given response was defenitely not spam. It was 
a reply to a question asked. It was on topic. It might not have been as 
well documented as I hoped it to be... but it was not at all 
*unsollicited* since I asked about this topic. In the worst case, one 
could call it a shameless plug. I know I have made publicity for events 
of our hackerspace in the past too... (ouch, now I'm spamming, I'm 
advertising our hackerspace)


It's human to make mistakes... this counts for Valèri (Odds are he won't 
be so stupid to help anyone on the mailinglist anymore) but also for 
you. Be a big person, and learn from your mistakes. If you feel someone 
is not abiding the rules of the mailinglist (but has a good history), be 
polite and explain this person what mistake (s)he made. This opens a 
door for the (so called) offender to apologize if he agrees, or defend 
himself if he disagrees.


Oh yeah... and on an ironic sidenote... if this were a real spammer - he 
would thank us for sending out a gazillion more messages with his 
company name in the title.


Grtz,
and have an excellent Christmas holiday...
Jurgen.


On 21-12-12 19:08, martijn cielen wrote:
Hold your horses Wouter. You clearly completely misunderstood my 
message. I do give a *** about the work any and all of you do. I 
thought it was obvious I was talking about spammers. To clarify again: 
when someone spams the ML, I don't give a *** about what they do for 
the community. It's spam, and spam should be fought by any means.


On Friday, 21 December 2012, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

I personally felt offended by the sheer lack of Ubuntu/humanity in
the responses that followed.
If one states that he didn't *give a *** what anyone (corporate
or individual) has done for anyone/anything* than that means he
doesn't care about any of the work I and others have put in to it.
I find that offensive and take it as a slap in the face.

It shows of a lack of empathy, dignity and respect to others who
might or might not put more time and effort to things than that
person him- or herself. Although I would have taken it this way
regardless of whom it came from, I feel even more offended because
it came from somebody who signed the code of conduct! A code that
starts with following words:

*Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself
captures the spirit of being human.*

A code that explicitly states that at all times you should be
respectful. One that states that disagreement is no excuse for
poor manners. One that states that you have to take responsibility
for your words and actions.

I find myself today, struggling to keep believing that any work
done here is appreciated or even considered to be of any value.

And with this rant and words that might mean more to some than
others I leave you

Have a nice day all, who knows it might be our last.

Regards


Wouter Vandenneucker

2012/12/21 Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be

Well,

I didn't consider the initial answer as spam - I did take it
as a rather weak answer in the sense that there's no further
help than only offering to make a sale.

I was hoping to get feedback in the sense of: I'm using
*blabla* on my computer and *bla* on my Android device and it
all works fine doing these steps: *blablabla* Or even: Buy
this device: *SomeDevice*, it contains drivers for ubuntu In
extremis it could be: let me google this for you: *keyword 1*
*keyword 2* ...

Obviously, if the solution you're offering is something you
developed in-house, and thus only offer to your customers...
that's also an option, and then the shop is he place to be.

Well... but as disappointing as the answer was... the answer
spammer didn't help me any further either.

Grtz,
Jurgen


On 21-12-12 13:25, tom verlinden wrote:

Is there a code of conduct, guidelines, on how to approach
things like this?
What i'm trying to say is, what if you know a good
link/shop/space that can help you?
What would be the appropriate action to take?

Needless to say i too disagree with spamming any list, but
it's something i was asking myself just yet...


2012/12/21 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com

Jan,

frankly I don't give a *** what

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Silent computers' shop staat er klaar voor!-- Re: ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 82, Issue 16

2012-12-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

On 21-12-12 23:48, Samuel Derous wrote:


Personally, while Martijn could have weighed his words more, I too 
agree that this isn't much more than spam, and I too agree that it 
doesn't matter if silent computers has done more or less than anyone 
else for ubuntu-be... I get hundreds of this kind of mail in my spam 
box... Fact is that in the same way, one could answer: Go ask a 
fnack-employee, he would know how to help you any further. But that 
wasn't the question. Fact is that in that case much more than give 
preferences for any shop where you can buy smartphones, isn't delivered.


Greetz,

Samuel



Fair enough... it certainly is on the edge. But if Fnac would indeed 
offer support on making this work under Ubuntu... it would be a valid 
post for his list (we had postings from people telling Dell was going to 
sell Ubuntu machines, nobody complained back then). So the bottom line 
is that you can't blow your own horn? If somebody else would have said: 
Yeah, I went to Silent Computers, and they helped me out just great! 
It wouldn't have been spam... but if they are proud in telling 
themselves... it is spam?


TODO: People considering spam an important issue on Ubuntu-be: write a 
clear code of conduct on the wiki - have it tweaked by notifying it on 
the mailinglist. If there's a consensus - that's great! People will 
stick to it, and you'll be able to refer to it. So all that's needed, is 
a decent wiki page on this topic. :) I won't make the effort, because I 
think it's no priority. I will read it though and comment on it, if I 
think it omits other fields (like netiquette) or starts to smell like 
censorship...


Grtz,
Jurgen.


Op vrijdag 21 december 2012 19:58:02 schreef Jurgen Gaeremyn:

Martijn,

there's something else too that people should be fighting in mailing 
lists... and that's trolls. People posting to a mailinglist without 
contributing to the topic, but in the contrary fueling an (off topic) 
discussion is considered trolling in my eyes.


Secondly: (not talking about this specific situation here) No matter 
how rude, stupid or wrong a person is... you *never* lower yourself to 
that same level. This will never solve anything.


As I already said... the given response was defenitely not spam. It 
was a reply to a question asked. It was on topic. It might not have 
been as well documented as I hoped it to be... but it was not at all 
*unsollicited* since I asked about this topic. In the worst case, one 
could call it a shameless plug. I know I have made publicity for 
events of our hackerspace in the past too... (ouch, now I'm spamming, 
I'm advertising our hackerspace)


It's human to make mistakes... this counts for Valèri (Odds are he 
won't be so stupid to help anyone on the mailinglist anymore) but also 
for you. Be a big person, and learn from your mistakes. If you feel 
someone is not abiding the rules of the mailinglist (but has a good 
history), be polite and explain this person what mistake (s)he made. 
This opens a door for the (so called) offender to apologize if he 
agrees, or defend himself if he disagrees.


Oh yeah... and on an ironic sidenote... if this were a real spammer - 
he would thank us for sending out a gazillion more messages with his 
company name in the title.


Grtz,
and have an excellent Christmas holiday...
Jurgen.


On 21-12-12 19:08, martijn cielen wrote:

Hold your horses Wouter. You clearly completely misunderstood my 
message. I do give a *** about the work any and all of you do. I 
thought it was obvious I was talking about spammers. To clarify again: 
when someone spams the ML, I don't give a *** about what they do for 
the community. It's spam, and spam should be fought by any means.


On Friday, 21 December 2012, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

I personally felt offended by the sheer lack of Ubuntu/humanity in the 
responses that followed.


If one states that he didn't give a *** what anyone (corporate or 
individual) has done for anyone/anything than that means he doesn't 
care about any of the work I and others have put in to it. I find that 
offensive and take it as a slap in the face.



It shows of a lack of empathy, dignity and respect to others who might 
or might not put more time and effort to things than that person him- 
or herself. Although I would have taken it this way regardless of whom 
it came from, I feel even more offended because it came from somebody 
who signed the code of conduct! A code that starts with following words:



Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself 
captures the spirit of being human.


A code that explicitly states that at all times you should be 
respectful. One that states that disagreement is no excuse for poor 
manners. One that states that you have to take responsibility for your 
words and actions.



I find myself today, struggling to keep believing that any work done 
here is appreciated or even considered to be of any value.



And with this rant and words that might

[Ubuntu-be] Fwd: smart phone - x-mas

2012-12-19 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi...

I was popped this question today... (and I'm interested myself too).
Anyone on our list who can help this lady?


hi,
does anybody know a good smartphone?
(not too expensive  180 euro)
which is easy to use and synchronize with ubuntu 12.04...
thanks, M



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Tshirts are gonna be shipped

2012-12-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I disagree... that's not enough. He should also do the plop-dance and
put it on youtube. :p



On 17-12-12 16:30, jbongaerts wrote:
 Almost two months to ship t-shirts. Mmmm.
 
 Since Wouter is a student, I'm thinking 'punishment'
 'student' = 'down-downs'
 'student' + 'punishment' = 'heineken'
 
 So therefore, by unanimous decision:
 Wouter, get yourself 3 heinekens and down them one after the other.
 Send proof to this list.
 
 Ad fundum!
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] OS Android op tablet vervangen door ubuntu.

2012-12-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Dag Eric,

bekeek je deze link al:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/182579/can-i-replace-the-android-os-with-ubuntu-on-the-zeki-7-0-android-tablet

Geen persoonlijke ervaring (behalve youtube filmpjes kijken)

Groetjes,
Jurgen


On 09-12-12 12:25, Eric Van Aelst wrote:

 Collega's,

 mijn stiefdochter heeft onlangs een tabletje gewonnen. Daar wij
 allemaal fervente Ubuntu-gebruikers zijn had ze graag haar tabletje
 voorzien van Ubuntu, maar dit lijkt niet zo eenvoudig te zijn. Iemand
 een leidraad van hoe we dit best aanpakken?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] First batch of computers arrived

2012-11-19 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Ik heb er geen idee van wie de eventbox van Antwerpen houdt - 't is dus 
niet duidelijk wie moet antwoorden daarvoor... (idem voor de andere 
eventboxen?)


Groetjes,
Jurgen.

On 19-11-12 19:14, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
graag wel een antwoord van alle eventbox onderhouders want ik ben niet 
van plan 6x

naar huis te gaan om er op te halen..
(al komt er nog wel een batch met 10 computers ofzo)

Grts


Wouter

Op 17 november 2012 18:46 schreef Wouter Vandenneucker 
wouterv...@gmail.com mailto:wouterv...@gmail.com het volgende:


voorlopig staan er hier in de garage al een 6 tal computers.
De meeste met amd 64 athlon of phenom prosessors.. de scherm zijn
4/3 schermen maar met een resolutie van 1280x1024
Ram varieert tussen 2 en 4 GB en hdds van 80 tot 250GB


2012/11/17 Claudio Mammarella claudio.mammare...@telenet.be
mailto:claudio.mammare...@telenet.be

hmmmLimburg :-)
incl. schermen 

hoeveel heb je er gekregen?

Claudio


Op 17-11-12 14:06, Wouter Vandenneucker schreef:

Hi guys,

So the first batch of computers finally arrived..
Which eventboxes are in need of some?

Kind regards


Wouter Vandenneucker





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[Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [HSBXL] Information and request for support to RMLL/WLSM in Brussels July 6-11 2013

2012-11-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Salut à tous,
Heya all...

Something that might interest you. Hope you will all chip in and commit 
or participate in this event!

Please forward!!

Grtz,
Jurgen.


 Original Message 
Subject: 	[HSBXL] Information and request for support to RMLL/WLSM in 
Brussels July 6-11 2013

Date:   Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:24:13 +0100
From:   Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be
Reply-To: 	nico...@pettiaux.be, Open list for Hackerspace Brussels 
hs...@discuss.hackerspaces.be

To: Open list for Hackerspace Brussels hs...@discuss.hackerspaces.be
CC: 	organisation of RMLL/WLSM in Brussels (July 2013, 6 to 11) 
o...@rmll.be




Subject : Information and request for support to RMLL/WLSM in Brussels
July 6-11 2013

Dear,

From July 6 till 11, 2013, we plan to hold in Brussels the World Libre
Software and Culture Meeting (WLSM) also known in French as the «
Rencontres mondiales du logiciel et de la culture libre». This would
be only the second time outside of France after the July 2012 edition
of Geneva.

This will be the 14th edition of an event that is important enough to
count about 1000 entries per day for 6 days, during which many peole
from many diverses countries gather to speak about free software, free
hardware and free culture. As such, it is also a meeting between
developers, policy makers and general public.

To get an idea of what it was in 2012, go http://rmll.info

In Brussels, the event is planned to take place mostly at the Free
University of Brussels (ULB), where the FOSDEM (http://fosdem.org)
gathers about 5000 free software developers during one weekend in
early February, and in the center of Brussels for some activities that
we want especially opened to the public to have him discover the power
and pleasure of free software, free hardware and free culture in
general. Organizers of Fosdem know about Brussels as candidate for
2013 and have expressed some support. Indeed, RMLL/WLSM is
complementary to Fosdem as Fosdem focuses on developpers only.

The activities in the center of Brussels would typically take place on
July Saturday 6 and Sunday 7. THe other ones, from 9 am till 10pm
would take place on the ULB campus du Solbosch

So far, as an event organized in France with many participants from
France, Belgium, Switzerland, Africa, North America and other French
speaking countries, the event has been mainly in French. We plan to
have it even more international and with many more languages spoken,
starting with English. (Although English was spoken during some
sessions, especially the technical ones)

The President of the ULB has marked a strong interest and support, the
ULB facilities are available and are being reserved, student housing
may be available.

Some ULB teachers, including myself, have expressed their interest and
support, at least moral, is already acquired, including professors
Olivier Debeir and Jean-Marc Sparenberg Applied Science and Andrée
Puttemans, Dean of the Faculty of Law.

We are contacting other college and universitty professors, as well as
representatives from private companies involved with free software.

It is also likely that we have the support of the RTBF and the EBU,
the European radio and television union that develops free software
for its members and was strong in Geneva and whose chairman is the
director of the RTBF.

Several members of hackespace of ULB (urlab) are very interested in
actively participating in the organization of these RMLL2013 @
Brussels, 14th name, including its coordinator Cedric Lood. We would
very much like to have the participation of representatives from other
hackerspaces of the world. We are in touch with Mitch Altman to hold
during the whole week a « fabulous hack space »

We write to you to ask for official support and mark of interest, if
possible *before* Novembre 10, 2012 because we need to enter a
complete file to support the project (see
wiki.wlsm.be/index.php/Dossier_2013)

Any support and involvement by you and members of your team and
organization would be welcome.

From the help towards the organization, support or participation inf
the hack space, to participations to conferences, debates, allocation
of some resources, help with contacts to national free software
supporting associations, universities, hackerspace or any other help
would be very much welcome.

Do you think you and groups that you know can participate and get involved ?

Could your institution and you put a some resource to help find
further support, contact people from private companies to colleges,
university and research labs or other parliament, and to circulate
info ... ?

Please do not hesitate to spread the word.

Thank you for your support and for the information you want to share with us.

Much thanks in advance

Sincerely,


Nicolas Pettiaux
Coordinator RMLL2013@Brussels
Avenue du Pérou 29
B-1000 Bruxelles

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Custom ISO ubuntu-be

2012-10-12 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey Claudio,

unfortunately I don't have a computer I can experiment with... and not 
very eager to test it on my work computer.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 10-10-12 18:40, Claudio Mammarella wrote:

Hey Jurgen,

I didn't install it on a windows system, only on a system with 1 OS 
and the installation went good.
Slow boottime, the iso is almost twice as big then the original. 1,2gb 
- 700mb


If we have to much problems with custom iso's, isn't it better to make 
a custom usb-stick with original iso's on it (ubuntu 32bit-64bit, 
xubuntu, kubuntu, Lubuntu) and just customize the bootscreen of the 
stick with a logo from ubuntu-be?


Let me know how it went,

grts,
Claudio

Op 10-10-12 08:02, Jurgen Gaeremyn schreef:

Hey Claudio,

did you try actually installing it on a Windows system already?
I had all kinds of problems... (slow boot - errors during install).
I'll try downloading it a second time and using a different stick, but I
prefer sending out the message too soon than having new people running a
faulty system... (basically saying it's probably my fault, but have to
work now, so can't verify yet)

Grtz,
Jurgen.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Custom ISO ubuntu-be

2012-10-10 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Claudio,

did you try actually installing it on a Windows system already?
I had all kinds of problems... (slow boot - errors during install).
I'll try downloading it a second time and using a different stick, but I
prefer sending out the message too soon than having new people running a
faulty system... (basically saying it's probably my fault, but have to
work now, so can't verify yet)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On Mon, October 8, 2012 7:50 pm, Claudio Mammarella wrote:

 Jurgen,


 Here is a link to the latest ubuntu-be iso.
 http://ubuntuone.com/6T4F6KSJPrQZdDoNQGlDBx


 Extra installed apps :
 - restricted : codecs,java,flash,..
 - vlc
 - gimp
 - inkscape
 - official be-eid reader software
 - tuxpaint
 - myunity
 - for now dutch language installed by default
 - configured for Azerty keyboard
 - custom wallpaper in live-session and default ubuntu-precise wallpaper
 when installed - Dutch and English manuals of ubuntu 12.04LTS in a folder
 on the desktop in live and installed session.

 --


 Here you can download the complete image for making a ubuntu-be
 usb-stick. http://ubuntuone.com/54VNgMUIak3372wyJ2sE04


 It's 4gb of size and what's included :
 - ubuntu 12.04.1LTS, ubuntu-be version
 - ubuntu 12.04.1LTS, original
 - kubuntu 12.04.1LTS
 - xubuntu 12.04.1LTS
 with a custom bootmanager and a custom made background from Massimiliano.

 Write it with dd to a usb-drive and give it a spin.


 groetjes, Claudio
 Op 08-10-12 19:30, Jurgen Gaeremyn schreef:

 Claudio,


 waar kan ik momenteel de custom iso downloaden? Staat die ook ergens op
 de wiki of website?

 Groetjes,
 Jurgen.


 On Wed, July 25, 2012 11:34 pm, Claudio Mammarella wrote:


 Hello,




 I made a custom ubuntu 12.04 ISO for ubuntu-be.
 http://ubuntuone.com/5aoLPU7CZM5H1eSxz3G0Ts




 Screenshot
 http://ubuntuone.com/1WQJXaZxYMGBMdPputMk2i




 Please download and test it, afterwards give me your opinion and
 remarks.



 What are the changes i made ?
 - New default wallpaper ubuntu-be, made by Massimiliano
 - added applications : ubuntu restricted, myunity, gimp,vlc
 - Iso update to the last kernel and apps updates
 - documents on desktop during live-session and also after installation
 :
 presentation ubuntu 12.04 in dutch


 Untill now the size is just under 1gb, if extra apps are needed just
 let me know and i can add them if necessary.


 I will ask Massimiliano to modify the wallpaper so that it looks more
  native. Maybe default precise wallpaper with ubuntu-be logo.



 If Wouter sends me a copy (.pdf) of the manual then i can add it to
 the desktop.


 Manuals in other languages like french-german are also welcome. The
 EN-version will soon be added with the next ISO i make.




 The final ISO must be ready before 14sept2012 because we want to use
 it at Software Freedom Day 2012.


 Test the iso and let me know what you think about it, all comments
 are welcome.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be iso

2012-09-30 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Woooh Way To G!

Hey... and as a sidenote, thanks for introducing me to MyUnity (can't 
imagine, but I didn't know that one).


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 30-09-12 09:59, Claudio Mammarella wrote:

Hello,

Here is a link to the latest ubuntu-be iso.

http://ubuntuone.com/6T4F6KSJPrQZdDoNQGlDBx

Extra installed apps :
- restricted : codecs,java,flash,..
- vlc
- gimp
- inkscape
- official be-eid reader software
- tuxpaint
- myunity
- for now dutch language installed by default
- configured for Azerty keyboard
- custom wallpaper in live-session and default ubuntu-precise 
wallpaper when installed
- Dutch and English manuals of ubuntu 12.04LTS in a folder on the 
desktop in live and installed session.


It is 1,2gb big and designed for use with our usb-sticks with multiple 
distro's.
I've made a _new image_ of our ubuntu-stick and wil see how to make it 
public, it's 4gb.
We can copy the image with DD to our usb-drives or use the script 
Wouter made for copying multiple disks at once.


I will let you know when it's online.

grts,
Claudio




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Massive USB multiplier

2012-09-26 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Okay... totally going into weirdo mode now... I'm lively imagening 10 
sticks being ready - the program should be able to terminate the process 
so that the soft kitty song gets sung by 10 voices... but in canon. :)



On 26-09-12 15:17, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

As suggested, we could play a sound file when the copies are done.
I propose to use soft kitty warm kitty from the big bang theory.. :D

2012/9/25 Claudio Mammarella claudio.mammare...@telenet.be 
mailto:claudio.mammare...@telenet.be


Nice idea to copy multiple sticks at once.
Now i'm copying the sticks one at the time in one terminal
window/stick , i can not wait to try you script.

;-)
Claudio

Op 25-09-12 18:32, Wouter Vandenneucker schreef:

I like! :D

Do you have an SVG of that? :D

2012/9/25 snb1405 bjorn...@msn.com mailto:bjorn...@msn.com

I made quick and for fun a picture of copykitten :)

http://ubuntu-be.3354669.n2.nabble.com/file/n7574763/images.jpg



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] So studying got really boring..

2012-09-07 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Great job!

As I'm only allowed to run Windoze at work, I'll change my wallpaper 
there too :D


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07-09-12 18:37, tom verlinden wrote:


Wouter.
You did an outstanding job!!
As far as i'm concerned, they're ready to be put up on the wiki.

Op 6 sep. 2012 16:43 schreef Wouter Vandenneucker 
wouterv...@gmail.com mailto:wouterv...@gmail.com het volgende:


So, 7 done 1 re-examination to go..
But to take a little break, I made some changes:

  * changed the font to Ubuntu Bold (how do you like it now Tom?)
  o Does the fact that UBUNTU is capitalized break consistency?
  * An engraved version for Jurgen.
  * An other engraved version because the first one might be a
little brighter, but doesn't make any sence
  * made the logo a little smaller

Ubuntu Bold Font: http://vdnkr.be/royal_16_9_ubuntu_bold.png
Engraved 1: http://vdnkr.be/royal_16_9_ubuntu_engraved_1.png
Engraved 2: http://vdnkr.be/royal_16_9_ubuntu_engraved_2.png

Tell me how you like them, I'll wrap them up in a tar file and put
it on the wiki afterwards.

Grts


Wouter

PS: next chapter of my coursebook starts with, oh boy:
You will have to brace yourselves for this---not because it is
difficult to understand, but because it is absolutely ridiculous:
All we do is draw arrows on a piece of paper---that's all!
---Richard Feynman, explaining the Theory of Quantum
Electrodynamicsat the Alix G. Mautner Memorial Lectures, UCLA, 1983.


2012/9/5 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com
mailto:wouterv...@gmail.com

Specially for you jurgen, I'll make an engraved version as
well.. :p ;)
I'm at my girlfriends place atm, I'll change them when I get
home..
Grts
Wouter

2012/9/5 jurgen.gaere...@telenet.be
mailto:jurgen.gaere...@telenet.be

Hehe... and maybe make the letters a slight touch
transparent - or beter give it an engraved look (something
like a gravestone)

Grtz,
Jurgen



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Well I used this font because it's the one most used in
the keep calm and carry on posters.
But okay, I'll change it to Ubuntu or Ubuntu Bold.. I'll
see what fits

Thx

Grts


Wouter

2012/9/4 tom verlinden tom.verlin...@gmail.com
mailto:tom.verlin...@gmail.com

Yes indeed, let's stick to that. The more fonts i see,
the less i know.
Let's keep it simple. The fantastic ubuntu font will
do just nice, i think.

Great work Wouter!!


2012/9/4 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com
mailto:mcie...@gmail.com

why not use the (fantastic btw) ubuntu font?


On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Wouter
Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com
mailto:wouterv...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay, thx for the tips..

I made the logo a little bigger, the text a
little smaller, changed the Aspect Ratio to
16/9 (sorry ultra-wide screen people, but this
is a lot more convenient) ..

Tom, did you have any font in mind? I'm using
Helvetica ultra bold at the moment, but I can
try anything.. I was first thinking of using
myriad, but that's a bit to Apple-like..

V2 is here: http://vdnkr.be/royal_V2.png
When I'm done I'll upload the xcf gimp file as
well..

Grts


Wouter

2012/9/4 tom verlinden
tom.verlin...@gmail.com
mailto:tom.verlin...@gmail.com

Hi,

i'm usually a reader of the mails flowing
by, rather than contributing (as i had
nothing to contribute). Untill now...
The text might be a bit smaller and the
logo bigger, but i very much like the
background. (maybe try a different font?
Just for experimentation...)

The 

[Ubuntu-be] Artwork and publicity...

2012-08-19 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Heya all,

as Wouter said... I'm pulling 2 wagons: first there's the great 
opportunity of artwork/printwork. We already have our rollups and flyers 
(in Dutch, the French one exists but someone needs to actually ask for 
them so we start printing).


There's a few possible options for flyers or publicity...
- obviously we could just make a new general flyer...
- we could also make a flyer geared at schools and/or corporations 
(what's specially interesting for them? where find support? etc...)

- a flyer can be made with special attention to the cloud (Ubuntu-One)
- a flyer talking about Ubuntu as server is also an option (but I doubt 
this audience needs a flyer, but maybe rather a more technical approach)


Some other ideas:
- a new presentation (in Impress or maybe even better ... Inkscape/SOZI) 
with some eye catchers
- a competition to make the coolest Youtube video promoting Ubuntu in 
Dutch or French. The winner gets some goodies... (f.e. a subscribtion to 
Ubuntu magazine for a year, or the first T-shirt in the new model, ...)

- same idea for the coolest wallpaper

So... did these ideas trigger your curiosity? Do you feel like 
participating? Get in touch - we could have a meet-up with the 
interested people, or just some online discussion if meeting would be 
too difficult.


Feel free to contact me (0496 45 95 41 or this mail) for questions or 
suggestion.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

Op 18-08-12 21:01, Wouter Vandenneucker schreef:

Hey girls and guys

It's getting really quiet here lately. Without a doubt the fact that 
it is vacation and that there are no events isn't helping to increase 
the activity here..
However, to get some things going, I'd like to ask all people who are 
leading an Ubuntu-be project to reply on this mail and give the 
mailinglist an update of what we are doing and how far we are.


To help giving everybody a sense of what we are up to, I'll summarize it:

 1. We're making *USB sticks*, *kawabill *is leading this
 2. We're making a custom *ISO *to go on the sticks and have it
available for download. The project leader is *Claudio*
 3. We're gonna get new *shirts *(same design or something new, you
might start thinking about it already ;)), since I (*wouter*) will
be leading this, you can expect an update after my re-examinations
 4. Further going in to branding, we're thinking about new posters and
other *printwork *(we have some people asking us for that),
*Jurgen *is leading this since he did a terrific job with our roll-ups
 5. *Dipro's *might be getting less and less attention, but we stay
active there since people know we are there and suspect us to!
This is *community *effort, if you're free some day, come and join
us, it's more fun than it is a burden
 6. I (*wouter*) am making an *Ubuntu manual *and it's getting rather
big, but anybody is free to add their contributions!
 7. Our *website *feels like it's been left in the cold, and we wan't
to help it. *Sulumar *is in charge of it but *JanC *and I
(*wouter*) are happy to assist him!
 8. In addition to that we want to spice up the activity of the
landing page by adding a *Blog*. Now I know *JanC *is willing to
put his efforts in it, but we need a platform to do that.
 9. Our *wiki *is like any wiki: a mess! sorting things out and
putting a little more structure in it is going to be my (*wouter*)
job during the next year.
But taking one step at a time, we'll leave it in the closet for
some months since we already did a major clean up last year! (it's
like cleaning a house, you're never done!)
10. We'll be present at other *events *as well *Software Freedom
Day* for instance!
*Jurgen *organizes an event at Hackerspace Brussels on
September 22th and *Claudio *is prepping everything for an event
in Genk

In addition to all these ongoing projects (well, except the blog, 
that's new!) we're even going to ignite some new ones!


 1. We want to start making *Courses *for schools and other people.
*JanB *already gave some lessons and will lead this project
together with *kawabill*
 2. What we also want to do is turning ourself in a *VZW*, we haven't
assigned anybody yet because we need to get some other things
sorted first (bank stuff etc)
 3. Now we already talked about a course and a manual, but what about
an actual *Teachers for Ubuntu network*? Well, we're thinking
about that stuff as well! The people from the course project
(*JanB and Kawabill*) will lead this together with *Keltoum*.

Having 13 things on the agenda, we find ourselves in a pretty cool 
situation  - please spot the ironic temperature joke -   with a fairly 
big amount of work but also with a super big amount of opportunity. I 
hope this sparks your curiosity, because with the right spirit  - yes, 
all three mars rovers are in this email by name -  we can turn this 
year in an amazing succes. And this because we are on the verge of 
what might be 

[Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day Brussels - 22 September 2012

2012-08-15 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey all,

In hackerspace Brussels we're having Software Freedom Day again on 
Saturday the 22nd of September. This year we're going to reach out to 
the 'general public' (through local newspaper, local computershops, etc.)


To give some context, we are setting up:
- a bunch of stands demonstrating practical user applications. 15min 
showcases in french/dutch, scheduled all over the afternoon;
- the 'penguin bar' : a whitty team helping out people with specific 
questions (cfr the 'genius bar' in yr applestore)

- a bar for drinks  free pop-corn
- a room with talks on software Freedom / activism
- a game corner for kids to discover some nice opensource games
- the bhackroom : security implications on using a computer
- an electronics corner : discovering arduino and other opensource hardware


Can you help us out in getting this done? We were thinking of ubuntu-be 
specifically for the 'penguin bar' and possibly some 15min showcases of 
user-applications you use/like and want to show to the general public. 
Send me a message if you're in!


fyi: software freedom day also takes place in Ghent, Genk and Namur (and 
all over the world) on the 15th of September, so you don't have any 
excuse not to get involved !  :-)   (mind you : we're organising one 
week later, on the 22nd)


More info and the latest details:
- http://www.hackerspace.be/Software_Freedom_Day_2012
- http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2012

Grtz,
for the SFD-Brussel team,
Rafael, Jurgen (ea.)

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Custom ISO ubuntu-be

2012-08-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
The eID in the repository doesn't work indeed, it's outdated and in fact 
even uses a key that has changed since.


If you follow the software on the eID site, it should work. I can 
confirm that the eid card reader works well here.


Grtz,
Jurgen

Op 01-08-12 16:32, Yves Mulleneers schreef:

Yes, I have tested and can say it does not work.

2012/7/26 Bram Gadeyne gadeyneb...@gmail.com:

Hi Claudio,

Nice effort!

I've no time to test the ISO but I was wondering if there is also a version
of the Belgian eid software provided?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/belgium-eid/reviews/
https://code.google.com/p/eid-mw/
https://code.google.com/p/eid-viewer/

Maybe it's not the best idea to add unsupported and unofficial software but,
to my knowledge, the version in the ubuntu repo does not work.

Kind regards
Bram

2012/7/25 Claudio Mammarella claudio.mammare...@telenet.be

Hello,

I made a custom ubuntu 12.04 ISO for ubuntu-be.
http://ubuntuone.com/5aoLPU7CZM5H1eSxz3G0Ts

Screenshot
http://ubuntuone.com/1WQJXaZxYMGBMdPputMk2i

Please download and test it, afterwards give me your opinion and remarks.

What are the changes i made ?
- New default wallpaper ubuntu-be, made by Massimiliano
- added applications : ubuntu restricted, myunity, gimp,vlc
- Iso update to the last kernel and apps updates
- documents on desktop during live-session and also after installation :
presentation ubuntu 12.04 in dutch

Untill now the size is just under 1gb, if extra apps are needed just let
me know and i can add them if necessary.

I will ask Massimiliano to modify the wallpaper so that it looks more
native.
Maybe default precise wallpaper with ubuntu-be logo.

If Wouter sends me a copy (.pdf) of the manual then i can add it to the
desktop.

Manuals in other languages like french-german are also welcome. The
EN-version will soon be added with the next ISO i make.

The final ISO must be ready before 14sept2012 because we want to use it at
Software Freedom Day 2012.

Test the iso and let me know what you think about it, all comments are
welcome.

Claudio Mammarella





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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Manual

2012-07-16 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Here's my version:
http://ubuntuone.com/30VOMo2ULYInGiHIkcXitj

Same disclaimer: don't spread this version - it was a DRAFT and should 
not be distributed.


Oh, and Wouter... plz... call me if you have this kind of trouble. :p

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07/17/12 00:09, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

Hey guys

I shorted some chapters to get the manual  v1.0 ready by tomorrow morning.
In the end I'm not so pleased with the lack of visual stuff in the first
chapters and the short last chapter.. it should have been 4 serperate
chapters..
I just didn't have the time for it...

Anyhow, when schools starts again, I'd like to have a complete version
(V1.1) of the manual which also includes installation etc..

http://vdnkr.be/Ubuntu_Handleiding_V1_0.pdf

Please tell me your remarks..

PS: I didn't find the changes Jurgen made. So I'm afraid there are still a
kazillion spelling errors in there..
If some of you can get them all out by the end of the week I'll submit that
one at my fathers company, else it's this version.

Kind regards


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[Bug 1022702] [NEW] beidgui in repository is older version - contains critical bugs

2012-07-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Public bug reported:

When installing this application (incl. all required libraries),
hardware and software does not interact.

Most recent version can be found here:
http://eid.belgium.be/nl/je_eid_gebruiken/de_eid-middleware_installeren/linux/

** Affects: beid (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu 12.04 Manual V0.1 Draft

2012-06-30 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Super initiative!

If you send me the ODT-file, I'll fix some language errors and typos.

I would also recommend adding  the keyboard shortcuts, and how you don't 
need to memorize them (just keep the launch button pressed for a second).


Great start anyway!

LibreOffice can export to wiki... maybe we can collaborate on the text 
and/or structure this way (or using an ubuntu etherpad - just keep in 
mind to download regularly  :p )


Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 06/30/12 02:54, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

Hey guys,

I started working on that manual. I figured it would be more easy just to
start making it from scratch.
The file is in dutch and far from complete. But please tell me what you
think of it and what I should improve.

The pdf can be downloaden from:
http://vdnkr.be/Ubuntu%20Handleiding%20draft%20V0_1.pdf
People who want the .odt file can just email me. I'm not putting it online
at the moment to safe some space on my hosting service.

Would it be an idea to start a github or launchpad for this project?

Kind regards


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] braai

2012-06-27 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey all,

I'll do the odd thing... I'll come for the meeting, but can't stay for 
the Braai. Will need to leave at 18:00 punctually though.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 06/18/12 14:07, Jan Bongaerts wrote:

Hi Guys,
The meeting + braai is going to be held on Saturday 14 July (we'll start by
singing the Marseillaise). Meeting at 15h00 and braai from 18h00 onwards.
Please let me know if you would like to attend.

For those of you who really feel they should attend at least a meeting, but
can't make it that day, or feel it should not be held here, do let me know.
The meeting can be rescheduled.

Cheers,
Jan.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] BelgianTeam - Monthly Report

2012-04-15 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hi Jean,

your mail looks like a good one to reply to, to offer feedback about the 
meeting we had with the Ubuntu-be council. We discussed this topic on 
March 1st - all 4 members of the council were present.


This was the consensus we could agree on:

What to expect if you're a council member?
1. having been involved in ubuntu-be for some time
2. promise to stay involved for as long as you are a council member
3. promise to try to be a good example inside ubuntu-be
4. be fair and have ubuntu-be's future in mind in case of conflict
   resolution.
5. make sure we don't spend more money than we have

I know we had more ambitious ideas on the IRL meeting at my place - but 
now it seems the opinion has changed in the minds of the members. 
Basically it boils down to: empower the initiatives that happen.


Important words that are missing in the consensus are: coördinate, 
invite, contact point, official body, maintain, organize, set objectives.


I'm fully aware that this might sound rather frustrating and won't 
connect with expectations of many active members.


If another council would arise, they are obviously free to decide what 
priorities and tasks the council takes up.


We also kinda agreed that it would be good to have elections to allow 
for a new council to be elected. We talked about planning this on a next 
date - up to now no date was proposed to prepare this. I didn't do this 
either. Possibly a next Thursday night IRC meeting could have this on 
the agenda. If someone puts it on the agenda, it can probably happen. If 
a read IRC meeting happens, it probably would be a good idea to announce 
this on the mailinglist too.


Bottom line: the council won't coordinate this report - obviously a 
member of the council could take this up on an individual level.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 04/15/12 11:28, jean7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi to all,

In the wikipage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamReports, you can
read :


Every month this page should be filled with bullet points indicating
the summary of some of the work you have been working on. As you work
on something, add it on the page of the correct month


It was not done for March 2012
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamReports/12/March), although
members of Ubuntu-be were present in activities.

For April 2012, you should add your activities in the wiki-page
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamReports/12/April

Additionally, there is a need for coordination about this report at the
level of Ubuntu-be : work for the Ubuntu-be Council ?




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] professional support

2012-04-12 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hi Jan,

Canonical offers professional support - here's a link to there standard 
packages:


http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41

Obviously you could get in touch with local companies that offer Linux 
support. When googling for linux support, I found a few interesting 
links. I'm pretty sure they'll be glad to offer you a competitive price 
for a service level agreement if you send them an inquiry.


http://www.multiseatcomputer.be/multiseat-helpdesk.html
http://www.linuxbe.com/support.html
http://www.it3.be/

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 04/12/12 22:15, Jan Bongaerts wrote:

Hi Guys,
I am getting involved in giving presentations about Ubuntu for a computer
company (www.to-my-taste.com) that is promoting silent and energy-efficient
computers for large offices, especially city councils and semi-governmental
organisations.

One of the things that I will definitely be asked, is the cost of
professional support.
I realise that there is no standard answer for this, and that it should be
tailor made, but at least I should have some idea.

Does anyone have experience with this? Any input is welcome, I am really
clueless.

Thanks,
Jan.




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] professional support

2012-04-12 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Have a look at Limux

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/dir/limux/english/index.html

Maybe you can send a mail to li...@muenchen.de - I think they would also 
be glad to answer specific questions...


Grtz,
Jurgen

On 04/12/12 22:51, Jan Bongaerts wrote:

Thanks.
I guess it gives an idea.
Is this going to be comprehensive enough for a municipality though? Don't
they need some intensive labour with its implementation? Maybe some people
need training?
I read an article stating that the Munich City Council is budgeting 30
million to implement Linux. Sounds like a bit more than just an 'access to
a knowledge base'.
Cheers,
Jan.

On 12 April 2012 22:34, Jurgen Gaeremynjurgen.gaere...@pandora.be  wrote:


Hi Jan,

Canonical offers professional support - here's a link to there standard
packages:

http://shop.canonical.com/**index.php?cPath=41http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41

Obviously you could get in touch with local companies that offer Linux
support. When googling for linux support, I found a few interesting
links. I'm pretty sure they'll be glad to offer you a competitive price for
a service level agreement if you send them an inquiry.

http://www.multiseatcomputer.**be/multiseat-helpdesk.htmlhttp://www.multiseatcomputer.be/multiseat-helpdesk.html
http://www.linuxbe.com/**support.htmlhttp://www.linuxbe.com/support.html
http://www.it3.be/

Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 04/12/12 22:15, Jan Bongaerts wrote:


Hi Guys,
I am getting involved in giving presentations about Ubuntu for a computer
company (www.to-my-taste.com) that is promoting silent and
energy-efficient
computers for large offices, especially city councils and
semi-governmental
organisations.

One of the things that I will definitely be asked, is the cost of
professional support.
I realise that there is no standard answer for this, and that it should be
tailor made, but at least I should have some idea.

Does anyone have experience with this? Any input is welcome, I am really
clueless.

Thanks,
Jan.











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Re: [Ubuntu-be] wegetit

2012-04-05 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Kun je misschien gemakshalve ook even de link naar de pagina met de 
foute link doorsturen?


... ahja, 't is natuurlijk Wiki... dus je mag 't ook zelf verbeteren. :)

Mercikes,
Jurgen.


On 04/05/12 18:29, linux-service.be bvba wrote:

bij links, http://www.wegetit.be werkt niet meer.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] 14 February - 20:30 = short brainstorm on reapproval LoCo Team

2012-02-12 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I guess so too... luckily Jean saw it in time... Here's a link stating it:

http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 12-02-12 01:52, Jan Claeys wrote:
 Jurgen Gaeremyn schreef op do 09-02-2012 om 23:24 [+0100]:
 on the 16th, our LoCo has to be reapproved.
 
 Can somebody please explain what you mean?
 
 As the Loco Contact, I didn't get *any* mail about this (even checked my
 spam folder, etc.), while I should be the first point of contact...
 
 


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[Ubuntu-be] Impromptu IRC meeting

2012-02-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
We had an impromptu meeting tonight, Thursday February 9, 2012.
Here's a little report.

Participants: sulumar, pvandewyngaerde, warddr, Jurgentje

This is not a planned meeting. A few persons were here, and we tackled
one basic issue (website).

== Website ==
Sulumar is working on an eventlog feature for thet website. The plan is
to make the field work ubuntu-be does more visibe to the visitors.
Would like some help in figuring out how the site is currently working.
There hasn't been a backup of the site for a long time. This should
urgently be taken care of.
Sulumar wil get in touch with Mongolito or JanC to help him regain
access to the ssh-shell and mysql layer of the site.

== Promotion ==
Warddr would like to say a word about promotion next meeting.

== Reapproval loco ==
Jean did a great job preparing the reapproval document for the Ubuntu
council. Thanks!
Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2012
Final tweaking: Tuesday 14/02/2012 at 20:30
Jurgen will send a message on the mailinglist.

== Past events ==
FOSDEM will be evaluated on next IRC meeting.

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[Ubuntu-be] 14 February - 20:30 = short brainstorm on reapproval LoCo Team

2012-02-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey people,

on the 16th, our LoCo has to be reapproved.

In preparation, Jean already did a great job on writing the reapproval
text. I think we should certainly discuss this text shortly.

My proposal: Tuesday Feb. 14th at 20:30 for about half an hour - one
topic: finalising the draft Jean made. That way you can organise all
your romantic plans after 21h00 :)

If you can't make it - please have a look at the wiki page and update
whatever you think should tweaking.
If you think of other events worth mentioning: please add them, or at
least send a message to this list.

If you don't know how to edit a wiki page, please send a message and I
(or someone else) will gladly help you out.

Page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2012

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] DOODLE for short brainstorm on reapproval LoCo Team

2012-02-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Fair point.
But we have to move quick. Tomorrow noon I'll close the doodle.

Here's a doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/s3qv86tnyivm4p4q

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 10-02-12 00:24, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 I think jurgen really wants ALL the Ubuntu-be members to be single! :D
 
 Anyhow, I'll be there! But if I'm not present, please, please, send me a
 text message, I might forget it (although I put it in my google calendar
 and my phone!)
 
 Grts
 
 
 Wouter
 
 2012/2/9 Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 
 Hey people,

 on the 16th, our LoCo has to be reapproved.

 In preparation, Jean already did a great job on writing the reapproval
 text. I think we should certainly discuss this text shortly.

 My proposal: Tuesday Feb. 14th at 20:30 for about half an hour - one
 topic: finalising the draft Jean made. That way you can organise all
 your romantic plans after 21h00 :)

 If you can't make it - please have a look at the wiki page and update
 whatever you think should tweaking.
 If you think of other events worth mentioning: please add them, or at
 least send a message to this list.

 If you don't know how to edit a wiki page, please send a message and I
 (or someone else) will gladly help you out.

 Page:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2012

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu-be - Suggested activities 1 semester 2012

2012-01-19 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Yeps... I offered this once - sent a mail to several Kringwinkel
responsibles. Didn't even get a reply :p

Op 03-01-12 14:25, kawabill schreef:
 Just an idea;
 Help install Ubuntu on used computers available in the 'kringwinkel' so they
 are up to date and equipped with latest software for the buyers to use.
 
 Grt,
 Bill
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] 04-05/02/2012, FOSDEM, Brussels

2012-01-18 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Sulumar,

if you're not too late yet, you might get lucky using Couchsurfing.org
(I host someone for FOSDEM that way too). You can't get any cheaper, and
it's a great way to get to know new people :)




Op 18-01-12 22:29, Sulumar schreef:
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to be with you at FOSDEM but, not knowing Brussels at all, I
 will need some one to help me out.
 I still need to find a place to sleep witch is affordable as well as
 someone who can lead me from the Train Station to the FOSDEM Location.
 
 Is there anyone who could help me out?
 
 Greets
 Sulumar
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dipro Antwerpen - Call for volunteers

2012-01-10 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Bram  all,

I'm able to come for one day. For now, I'll put in Saturday.
I'll bring the promo stuff I have over here with me - in the meanwhile
it will end up in the right place.

I'll also have a small access point with WPA - always handy if you need
to hook up a few computers to the local network (or 3G-stick)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

Op 10-01-12 14:17, bram kortleven schreef:
 Good afternoon all,
 
 OK, it's really soon to ask, but:
 
 Dipro is having a larger fair the weekend of 25-26 february, here in 
 Antwerpen.
 We'd like to set up a booth there as we normally do on those fairs.
 
 I'd like to know who's able to help out that weekend, or one of both days, 
 and how we are going to set up the booth, outlook, internals, materials, ...
 
 Please let me know by sending an email to: b...@bramkortleven.be so I can 
 gather thoughts and planning.
 
 I probably will have an issue for saturday afternoon, as I host a radioshow 
 at 7PM which needs a bit of preparation too, but will try to find a solution 
 for that day...
 Either someone replaces me in the radioshow, or at the fair.
 
 We'll see
 
 
 Thanks anyway for your effort and support!
 
 Bram Kortleven
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Etherpad - an idea...

2011-12-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Op 20-12-11 23:02, Jan Claeys schreef:
 What's wrong with pad.ubuntu.com ?  (Maybe we can even create our own
 team site on it?)

Well... last time we tried it, is was too slow to be usable...
I'm also missing the timeline feature.

The fact that it's open... well, if you're a programmer it's an
advantage - but for me that's not that important.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Survey

2011-11-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Wouter,

just a few comments:
* doesn't work well without Javascript enabled
* page 2: Ubuntu is mijn enigste Besturingssysteem - ENIGE
* page 3: standaard software aanbod - not very clear. Does this mean
installed by default, or available in repo's?

Otherwise, great poll!
Let's hope for a big response. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen

Op 29-11-11 17:49, Wouter Vandenneucker schreef:
 Hey guys the survey for next weekend in GENK is online now.

 It's only in dutch, but for the genk area that shouldn't be a problem
 I think.

 Anyhow, please test it out, and tell me if you encounter any
 problems: 
 http://ubuntu.vandenneucker.be/limesurvey/index.php?sid=29175lang=nl
 http://ubuntu.vandenneucker.be/limesurvey/index.php?sid=29175lang=nl

 PS: the server is fairly slow, getting the fonts can take a a few
 seconds.. I'll run this survey locally during the event to prevent this ^^

 Grts


 wouter



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Thursday 17th of November IRC Meeting report (There are some questions for the ML in here..)

2011-11-26 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey all...

Op 11/25/2011 10:41 AM, Wouter Vandenneucker schreef:

2011/11/24 Pierre Buyle mongolito404+ubuntu...@gmail.com
mailto:mongolito404%2bubuntu...@gmail.com

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@gmail.com mailto:wouterv...@gmail.com wrote:
  == Questions towards the ML ==
  - National release party, is this a go? can we manage that?
I think the previous bitmappers' Release Party qualifies as national
one. So yes, we did it in the past. But I'm not sure any of its
organizer are still active here.

  The bitmappers are still active. Last time we spoke about this idea on
IRC, somebody mentioned we might be able to hold a release party in
hackerspace BXL. This would be great as it is a very central location.
If we want to do this however, we need to: a) Ask permission (and get
that permission) to hsbxl; b) Find some cool ways to promote it; c) Have
some even cooler stuff to do there.

Anybody else has an input on this?


I'm member of HSBXL - the space is defenitely prepared to host this 
event. It just needs (a lot of) cleaning up at the moment. So in the 
near future, I don't think Ubuntu-be would be very happy inviting people 
here. If you do want to plan somethig:

   1. get on the HSBXL mailinglist and ask/announce it.
  (people will give feedback if there's a problem)
   2. check the calendar on the website for event collision
  (not much happening for the moment)

Obviously, there's also Hackerspace Ghent (0x20.be) and Hackerspace 
Antwerp (voidwarranties.be) that would probably be happy to have you over.


Grtz,
Jurgen.




  - Centralized depot for ubuntu-ware: Do or Don't?
What kind of repository for what kind of ware? For software packaged
as .deb, we should be able to setup a Team PPA on Launchpad. Dev
files, even binaries, can be stored in Launchpad Bazaar branch
hosting. If you prefer Git, on GitHub or Gitorious. For others files,
we may be able to setup an easy solution to let some members to upload
files on our web server at ubuntu-be (if only a few trusted members
need it, we can grant them SSH access to the server), I think we have
enough free disk space for that.

Or are you asking about a central place to store tangible things in
the material world?

PS: Note that I said We several times, but I'm leaving Belgium in
about a month, so that's actually likely a you ;).

  Haha, we were talking about a central place to store things in the
material world. There were some talks about maybe moving stuff over to
my parents' place, or to Jurgen's place. Now where it'll be stored
doesn't really matter to me, as long as it's fairly central. Now we,
sometimes, need 2 or 3 people to mail stuff when an event is planned...
it would be better/cheaper if we could just have 1 package that we sent
to a kiala point...


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting Tomorrow Thursday 20th oct: Reminder

2011-10-20 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey,

I'll try to be there, but for obvious reasons (those who know me will 
understand) I can't commit to being present.


Grtz,
Jurgen.


Op 10/19/2011 11:53 PM, wouter Vandenneucker schreef:

Hey guys,

Just a short reminder that there is an IRC meeting tomorrow at 21h on
the #ubuntube IRC channel on the freenode server.
Feel free to join in via our website or via any IRC client.

I however won't be able to make it, or at least not in time. I'll try my
best to get home in time, but I'm in Brussels that evening and I'm not
sure when my driver will drop me off..

Grts


Wouter Vandenneucker





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Re: [Ubuntu-be] 2 projecten: ICT Praktijkdag (10/01/2012 - KHK Geel) en ICT delen

2011-10-16 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi Olivier,

sorry it's in Dutch, but since it's about 2 Flemish projects, the target
audience is basically only this part of the country. In the assumption
that you're really interested, I'll assume that Google Translate of
Babelfish will help you out enough to understand this text.

Grtz,
Jurgen.


Op 16-10-11 05:02, Olivier Dupont schreef:
 It's a very funny project but my comprehension of Dutch is a problem ^^





 2011/10/15 Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be

 I just got information on 2 great project in the Flemish language
 region... maybe there's some of us who want to take this
 opportunity to participate.

 *1. ICT-praktijkdag zoekt nieuwe lesgevers en medewerkers*
 ++

 Op dinsdag 10 januari 2012 ondersteunen we de organisatie van de
 20ste ICT-praktijkdag, een feesteditie in KHKempen Geel. Het
 centrale thema wordt ICT-beleid met workshops over ICT-plannen,
 ICT-eindtermen, ICT-visie en extra workshops voor directies.

 Wens je nauwer te worden betrokken bij dit evenement voor en door
 onderwijs, mail je voorstel naar Emma (ten laatste dinsdag)! We
 zoeken nog:

 *lesgevers* voor tien hands-on workshops of presentaties van 2,5 uur.
 Bekijk de sessies op de 19de ICT-praktijkdag in Leuven om een idee
 te krijgen van het aanbod.

 *medewerkers* voor de opbouw op 7, 8 of 9 januari en de dag zelf
 op 10 januari.


 Voor beide rollen wordt een vergoeding voorzien.

 Als alles vlot loopt, starten de inschrijvingen nog voor de
 herfstvakantie.


 *2. Jonger dan 25? Bereid om ICT-vaardigheden te delen met
 50-plussers?*
 

 Voor een nieuw project dat pas start over enkele maanden zoeken we
 jongeren die bereid zijn om hun ICT-kennis en -vaardigheden te
 delen met ouderen. Inspiratie haalden we bij SamenOnlineNederland
 (http://www.samenonlinenederland.nl/), een succesvol project in
 het kader van mediawijsheid. Steun krijgen we van Belgacom Foundation.

 Je krijgt een gratis nascholing over het uitleggen van nieuwe
 IT-vaardigheden aan ouderen en gaat dan zelf opleidingen geven:
 basiscursussen computer, muisgewenning, basis internet en e-mail,
 sociale netwerken, fotografie, ...

 We voorzien een onkostenvergoeding! Mail voor meer info of met
 jouw kandidatuur naar i...@educentrum.be mailto:i...@educentrum.be .

 Kandidaten vermelden:

Naam
E-mail
Telefoonnummer
Leeftijd
Woonplaats
Ervaring wat betreft ICT-vaardigheden
Ervaring wat betreft het geven van ICT-opleidingen

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] 2 projecten: ICT Praktijkdag (10/01/2012 - KHK Geel) en ICT delen

2011-10-16 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
I forgot a few of the links that were embedded in the text.
Here's the newsletter where I got my info (I got it in mail, didn't know
they existed online too):

http://www.klascement.be/expo/nieuwsbrieven/archief/1002

Grtz,
Jurgen

Op 15-10-11 13:58, Jurgen Gaeremyn schreef:
 I just got information on 2 great project in the Flemish language
 region... maybe there's some of us who want to take this opportunity
 to participate.

 *1. ICT-praktijkdag zoekt nieuwe lesgevers en medewerkers*
 ++

 Op dinsdag 10 januari 2012 ondersteunen we de organisatie van de 20ste
 ICT-praktijkdag, een feesteditie in KHKempen Geel. Het centrale thema
 wordt ICT-beleid met workshops over ICT-plannen, ICT-eindtermen,
 ICT-visie en extra workshops voor directies.

 Wens je nauwer te worden betrokken bij dit evenement voor en door
 onderwijs, mail je voorstel naar Emma (ten laatste dinsdag)! We zoeken
 nog:

 *lesgevers* voor tien hands-on workshops of presentaties van 2,5 uur.
 Bekijk de sessies op de 19de ICT-praktijkdag in Leuven om een idee te
 krijgen van het aanbod.

 *medewerkers* voor de opbouw op 7, 8 of 9 januari en de dag zelf op 10
 januari.


 Voor beide rollen wordt een vergoeding voorzien.

 Als alles vlot loopt, starten de inschrijvingen nog voor de
 herfstvakantie.


 *2. Jonger dan 25? Bereid om ICT-vaardigheden te delen met 50-plussers?*
 

 Voor een nieuw project dat pas start over enkele maanden zoeken we
 jongeren die bereid zijn om hun ICT-kennis en -vaardigheden te delen
 met ouderen. Inspiratie haalden we bij SamenOnlineNederland
 (http://www.samenonlinenederland.nl/), een succesvol project in het
 kader van mediawijsheid. Steun krijgen we van Belgacom Foundation.

 Je krijgt een gratis nascholing over het uitleggen van nieuwe
 IT-vaardigheden aan ouderen en gaat dan zelf opleidingen geven:
 basiscursussen computer, muisgewenning, basis internet en e-mail,
 sociale netwerken, fotografie, ...

 We voorzien een onkostenvergoeding! Mail voor meer info of met jouw
 kandidatuur naar i...@educentrum.be .

 Kandidaten vermelden:

 Naam
 E-mail
 Telefoonnummer
 Leeftijd
 Woonplaats
 Ervaring wat betreft ICT-vaardigheden
 Ervaring wat betreft het geven van ICT-opleidingen



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu meeting

2011-10-13 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Is there need for a meeting?

The plan is on this page:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings/Reports?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=ubuntu-be-irc-meeting-2011-09-22-report.txt


 Dates: (we should add those to our website calendar)
 Oct: 6 and 20
 Nov: 3 and 17
 Dec: 1 and 15
 Jan: 5 and 19
 Feb: 2 and 16
 Mar: 1 and 15
 Apr: 5 and 19
 May: 3 and 17
 Jun: 7 and 21
 Jul: 5 and 19
 Aug: 2 and 16
 Sep: 6 and 20


So basically there's no planned meeting... unless there is need for a 
(practical) meeting.


Hehe... yet again, we managed to talk about something that need to be 
done ... but didn't assign someone to it. And as is normal in these 
kinds of cases - it didn't happen. :)

I'm putting them in as we're speaking :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 10/13/2011 08:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

hey guys,

I'm a bit confused, do we have a meeting tonight? :s Or was there agreed
that we wouldn't?

grts



Wouter





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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?

2011-09-23 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

devil's advocate-mode

Well... to be completely honest... if you take the cell phone as an 
example... historically I've never been able to change the OS on my GSM. 
So in a certain way the same could be argued for computers...


/devil's advocate-mode

Hope the MEP's clear this one out, and MS  hardware vendors start will 
grow a new conscience again...
Maybe it's time (pre-emptive) to shout out in non-tech channels about 
the bad thing that MS is trying to pull off and how it will affect me 
and you and everyone...


Here are some techniques that can be used:
(and that marketing also use)
- a photo of a crying baby has more effect than statistics on child
  mortality (use vivid examples, make it personal)
- little near-future effects trigger more urgency than long-term
  bigger effects

Obviously,there's also the option of FUD, but I agree that I'd rather 
not lower myself to that standard (even though it should be told if 
there actually is something to be afraid of).


Just my 2-pence...
Grtz,
Jurgen

On 09/23/2011 10:43 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

There was something similar a few months ago with a Cell Phone that was
locked.
The judge decided that the phone was designed for all mobile
providers, therefore the mobile provider restricted the use of the
device although it was intended to do more.
Result: every person who wanted the device to be unlocked could ship it
for free and the company had to unlock them..

Let us hope we get a better result in this case though..

Grts


Wouter Vandenneucker

Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:35:26 +0200
From: sulu...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?

I have doubts on the legality of that kind of strategie microsoft is
trying to pull up


On 2011-09-23 22:32, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

EPFSUG is already talking about shouting it out to some MEP's in
order to make sure the rights of the users are guaranteed ..
I guess this isn't the last we heard from it. (And that's a good thing!)

Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:16:48 +0200
From: vinc...@mangelschots.org mailto:vinc...@mangelschots.org
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?

Microsoft does require that the hardware ships with UEFI secure boot
enabled but it also states that it will support the unsecured boot
process. If so then it's up to the hardware vendors to make it
optional.


http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html
(dutch)

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Pieter Vande Wyngaerde
pietervandewyngae...@gmail.com
mailto:pietervandewyngae...@gmail.com wrote:

UEFI secure booting (part 2) via planet.debian.net
http://planet.debian.net:

very good good article @ http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html
(Part 1 here: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html)

from the article:
These are the facts:

Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure
boot enabled.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the user be able to
disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been informed by
hardware
vendors that some hardware will not have this option.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the system ship
with any
keys other than Microsoft's.
A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and only includes
Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot Microsoft operating
systems.

...

The truth is that Microsoft's move removes control from the end user
and places it in the hands of Microsoft and the hardware
vendors. The
truth is that it makes it more difficult to run anything other than
Windows. The truth is that UEFI secure boot is a valuable and
worthwhile feature that Microsoft are misusing to gain tighter
control
over the market. And the truth is that Microsoft haven't even
attempted to argue otherwise.



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
wrote:
  Have a read here:
 
 

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772
 
  Grtz,
  Jurgen.
 



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[Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?

2011-09-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Have a read here:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Report IsoMeeting @HSBXL yesterday

2011-09-16 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn

Hey,

just for the record... I looked into the pyTelemeter thingie. It doesn't 
work anymore and is no longer maintained. (it worked on the old 
Telemeter, but the new one has a new interface and/or constellation)


Anyways, even though it would be interesting, I don't think it's an 
option for the moment.


If someone would enjoy writing a lense or applications for mobile 
vikings - they offer an API :)


Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 09/14/2011 09:17 AM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

Hi all,

warddr, thijsdl (hfsdo), jurgentje and I held a meeting yesterday at the
Hackerspace in Brussels to talk about the ISO  USB project. Although we
didn't do an awful lot it was a decent kickoff for this project. We made
a few decisions etc.
You can read the whole report on the
wiki:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD/IsoMeeting

All of you who want to help are welcome. If you have any 'expertise' in
this field, feel free to drop your comments on the page or leave them on
the ML.

Also: I put the report under *BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD/IsoMeeting* but
now I'm thinking about it, wouldn't
*BelgianTeam/PastMeetings/IsoMeeting* be a better place?

grts


Wouter





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[Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting report

2011-09-15 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
The date  time for the meeting is set to Thursday 2011-09-8 at 21 h. in
#ubuntu-be on irc.freenode.net. You can reach the IRC channel through a
web based client at http://ubuntu-be.org/irc. Everyone is welcome to
participate to the meeting, there is no need to register beforehand.
Report will be written in collaboration on:
http://openetherpad.org/ubuntu-be (Ubuntu pad is not working)

Events

Participants:  Jurgen, pvandewyngaerde, JanC, clamam, RamiAdrien,
massimo21, Warddr


 * Upcoming events
   * Software Freedom Day
 * Oostende
   *
http://zandletters.be/index.php?option=com_contentview=articlecatid=67:activiteitenid=126:dag-van-de-vrije-software
 * Genk
   * Preparations are ready.
   * Massimo and Claman are giving a presentation
   * http://bibliotheek.genk.be/content/bib_events/record.php?ID=1377
 * Braine_L'Alleud - Ecaussinnes
   * https://sites.google.com/site/softwarefreedomdaywallonia/
 * Brussels
   * Latest info: https://hackerspace.be/Software_Freedom_Day_2011

   * Dipro meetings
 * Ghent 2011-09-18
   * Not enough volunteers found
   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-09-18
 * Bruges 2011-09-25
   * Comes along better than Ghent
   * JanC will take the lead on this one
   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2011-09-25
   * Someone to handle the 'logistics' would be nice
 * Ghent; 2011-11-06
   * we need volunteers.
   * Free Meeting Belgium
 * Date: Maybe the 2011-11-26
   * http://www.freemeeting.be
   * Website gonna be translate in Dutch
   * Need Dutch Volunteers
   * Need People to do some Workshop

 * Past Events
   * Dipro Antwerp
 * half the volunteers didn't show up (one person sent a mail
telling he was sick)
 * less and less visitors keep showing up on the fairs
 * More and more people ask for x64 version
 
 * Promotion
   * Flyers
 * French translation
   * translation is on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011
   * but only if there are enough meetings where they can be handed out
   * prices: http://www.drukwerkzone.be/pagina61.html
 * CMYK version is on the Wiki page too (Scribus file and PDF)
   * ISO  USB-stick
 * There was a meeting where some brainstorming happened - to be
continued...

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meeting report 2011-09-08

2011-09-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
On 09/09/2011 09:11 PM, Sulumar wrote:
 the 3 of us should first find ways to communicate outside of the mailing
 list. I think that discussing every administrative detail on the list
 would not be wise

Hehe... that's pretty easy actually. I suggest 3 options (more exist):
- openetherpad
- private IRC channel (for example
#mysecretchanneltodiscussthenewubuntutopic)
- using ; to address a mail to multiple persons

(didn't talk about google docs, dropbox, mumble, skype, phone, carrier
pidgeon, smoke signals or tam tam as other options)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

 
 
 
 Am 2011-09-09 15:09, schrieb Pierre Buyle:
 Hi,

 Nice to see three people stepping up for the website. I highly
 encourage you to work as a team instead of a single person. That way,
 you won't feel alone and the need for coordination leads to better
 documentation and/or communication. Even when in Canada, I can still
 take the time to answer any question you may have regarding
 Ubuntu-be.org's website.

 About the 3G connections. I don't see a 512Kps cap when testing my
 Mobile Vikings connection in Brussels with the SpeedTest.net
 application. It reports 962 kbps on download and 423 on upload with a
 160ms ping using an HSDPA network.

 Regards,

 P.

 
 


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[Ubuntu-be] Thursday night meetings?

2011-09-05 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

Who's taking the lead in the IRC meeting this thursday?
Last Thursday I was expecting JanC to coordinate, as he promised the
meeting before... but apparently he didn't make it. There wasn't really
a meeting worth mentioning.

I won't be there Thursday, so I'm assuming someone else will pick up.

Grtz,
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Introduction

2011-08-31 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Vincent,

great to have you along! Welcome to the LoCo!
You'll see me at Dipro Antwerp too. :)

If you have trouble to edit the wiki (for example because you're new to
the whole wiki thing, or don't know how to log in) - please don't be shy
and tell us! Someone will be glad to help you out then. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 08/31/2011 10:41 PM, Jean7491 wrote:
 Hi Vincent,
 
 Welcome in the Ubuntu-be community !
 
 We certainly will appreciate your help in Dipro Antwerp.
 
 You can add your name in the wiki
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-09-11).
 Bram is coordinating the team: he will contact you.
 
 Regards,
 
 jean7491
 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
 
 
 Le 31/08/11 22:32, Vincent Mangelschots a écrit :
 I'm new to the mailing list and would like to introduce myself.
 I'm Vincent, I'm 26 years old and use Linux (mainly Ubuntu) for quite
 some time now so I have some experience with it already. It took me a
 while but I want to be more active in the community and so I joined
 the ubuntu-be mailing list as a first step. If you want to know
 something about me or could use my help with any of the events, just
 ask.

 I'll try to come to the Dipro fair in Antwerp and drop by. If you guys
 need any more people maybe I can even help there?
 


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[Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day in Brussels - happening in Hackerspace Brussels

2011-08-27 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

after some doubts and talks, I found a few people who also believed in
the project to have an SFD event in Brussels. Hackerspace Brussels will
be the venue.

I'll put some information about Ubuntu along the side (and set up the
Ubuntu rollup). If there would be a few volunteers from our team, a
small demo stand could be made - or flyers could be distributed.

Anyway, if you feel interested, a few people of the iRail project will
to a talk, and we'll have a workshop on Inkscape.
If you think you could give a talk or a workshop too... please
volunteer. We can extend the afternoon till late in the evening ;)

Grtz,
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[Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting report

2011-08-27 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

attached is the meeting report of the last IRC meeting of August 18th.

The next meeting is planned for September 1st, and JanC will be
preparing and leading the meeting. If you have items for the agenda,
please put them on the wiki (or if you don't know how: reply to this post).

Grtz,
Jurgen.
Participants: jurgentje, clamam, warddr, skynetbbs, janC, RamiAdrien, pcarno

Events

Upcoming events
events between brackets: might not be tackled in this meeting - on the page as 
a reminder. 
 * Linuxbabbel 2011-08-24 (SkyNETbbs, Yanu)
   * Got Ubuntu material from Jean's eventbox
   * Will betatest the new Roll-up
   * Will have 100 of the new flyers (and the old)
 * Dipro Antwerp 2011-09-11 (warddr, jurgentje, )
   * Warddr will contact Noël and Bram to ask if they will be there, and if one 
of them can take the lead.
 * Software Freedom Day 2011-09-17
 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay/2011
   * Oostende 
   * Genk
 * More information can be found here: 
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/Genk/Ubuntu-be%20Team%20Limburg
   * Braine_L'Alleud 
   * (Brussels - cancelled) 
 * (LanForce: 2012-04-06 to 2012-04-08) see report 2011-06-23 for details 
   * ... 

Promotion

Running projects
 * Flyers (Dutch)
   * 2000 are already distributed
   * 3000 are in stock
   * maybe it's worthwile to translate it to French and also order a batch)
   * Should be converted to CMYK for much better output (don't use webcolors 
for print, they are not the same)
   * SkyNETbbs will transport 100 for Linuxbabbel and 500 for Jean
 * Roll-Ups: status (maintainer: Jurgen Gaeremyn) 
   * Roll-Ups are printed, photo can be found here: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
   * Jurgen will try to get one to JanC and one to massimo this weekend.
   * SkyNETbbs will retrieve the Rollup for JanC from Jurgen and deliver 
thursday at JanC
 * Localized Ubuntu-be ISO (maintainer: Martijn Cielen?) 
 * USB-stick for Ubuntu-be (maintainer: Wouter Vandenneuker) 
   * point stays in the fridge till after the herexamens
   * Warddr has some knowledge here, will help wouter out.
   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
   * Decision on delivery addresses 

 * ... 


Stuff that could happen
 * Proposal of Jean to update the wiki to better reflect the situation on 
rollups and flyers 

Things living in the mailing list (to be updated) and others

New members
 * welcome to pcarno - he's interested to support the West-Vlaanderen team and 
wants to get envolved in the meetings/IRC too.

Discussions
 * Organising the IRC-meetings: how and who? 

Next meeting
 * Proposal: IRC meeting on Thursday 01/09/2011 at 21 h.
 * We will install a rotation for preparing/leading the meeting. JanC will to 
the next one.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Linuxbabbel - volgende week woensdag 24 augustus te Izegem

2011-08-26 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Cool!

Great to see the rollup in action already :D

On 08/26/2011 09:42 AM, Steven Leeman wrote:
 Beste,
 
 
 Afgelopen woensdag was er weer de bi-maandelijkse linuxbabbel te
 Izegem:
 
 een aantal foto's kunnen hier gevonden worden: 
 https://sites.google.com/site/linuxbabbel/agenda/de-voorbije-jaren/2011/2011-08-24-izegem

  er zijn weinig tot geen foto's gemaakt van de opgeblazen pinguin
 maar wel van de rollup-display... ook de nieuwe foldertjes zijn 
 gefotografeerd... maar de affiches enzo niet.
 
 je ziet wel de multiseat in actie en alle stoelen waren in het begin
 in gebruik :-)
 
 Wie weet binnen enkele jaren vullen we de hele schouwburg (400man?)
 
 
 Mvg, Steven
 
 
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Linuxbabbel - volgende week woensdag 24 augustus te Izegem

2011-08-26 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Yeah,

thanks for the suggestions. I also experienced that the zippers weren't
the highest quality, and that chemical smell is obviously printing
stuff. I'll follow up on your idea and set it up for a few days in our
basement to get the smell out of it.

And that you have to wiggle... I guess I got lucky the first few times,
it just went well the first time. When I tried it now, I also noticed
they could lean forward if not inserted correctly. Good idea to mention
this in the list. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 08/26/2011 10:28 AM, Steven Leeman wrote:
 
 
 Op 26 augustus 2011 10:22 schreef Jurgen Gaeremyn
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be het
 volgende:
 
 Cool!
 
 Great to see the rollup in action already :D
 
 yes the chemical smell is now gone...
 
 the stick that keeps it up has to be inserted perfectly so the rollup is
 standing straight...
 if you just stick it in the hole you will have it facing a bit
 downwards...
 Pieter found out you can wigle it a little so the rollup faces correctly...
 
 also not to be used outside or where you have a lot of air
 deplacements  otherwise make sure you have some weights for on it's
 short feet
 
 be carefull with the zipper... when opening up as well...
 
 
 
 


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[Ubuntu-be] Reminder: meeting

2011-08-18 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

there's IRC meeting tonight starting at 9 PM.
Everyone is welcome to come over.

If you have items for the agenda, hurry to have them added. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen

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[Ubuntu-be] Roll-up for Ubuntu-be

2011-08-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

they are made - delivery costs were pretty high (and initially not very
visible on the site), so I had the 3 delivered to my place. I'll be
sending 2 using Kiala (to Jan C. and Massimo) and I'll be going to the
Dipro Antwerp and will be passing it on to Bram (or whomever will be
taking the dipro stuff along).

A picture is being uploaded currently on this page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011

You'll also find the original CMYK scribus file.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Roll-up for Ubuntu-be

2011-08-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
FYI... I can't send it over Kiala (max. width 70cm - package is over 85cm)

I'll send the package to Claudio instead of Massimo (I already have his
address) over TNT.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 08/17/2011 01:03 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 they are made - delivery costs were pretty high (and initially not very
 visible on the site), so I had the 3 delivered to my place. I'll be
 sending 2 using Kiala (to Jan C. and Massimo) and I'll be going to the
 Dipro Antwerp and will be passing it on to Bram (or whomever will be
 taking the dipro stuff along).
 
 A picture is being uploaded currently on this page:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 
 You'll also find the original CMYK scribus file.
 
 Grtz,
 Jurgen.
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Roll-up for Ubuntu-be

2011-08-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
On 08/17/2011 02:50 PM, Steven Leeman wrote:
 Op woensdag 17 augustus 2011 schreef Jurgen Gaeremyn
 (jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be) het
 volgende:
  Hey all,
 
  they are made - delivery costs were pretty high (and initially not very
  visible on the site), so I had the 3 delivered to my place. I'll be

 Where were they bought
 How much was the price and delivery now?
Where? http://www.rollup-express.com/
This is the item:
http://www.rollup-express.com/en/rollup/10-your-rollup-kakemono.html

This is the price:

Rollup: EUR49 excl. VAT x 3 rollups = EUR 147
Design: EUR10 excl. VAT
Shipping: EUR15 excl. VAT

Total: (out of the top of my head): around EUR210 for 3 rollups (incl. VAT)
I think I sent a mail about this a few days ago... (could be only to
council, not sure)

  sending 2 using Kiala (to Jan C. and Massimo) and I'll be going to the
  Dipro Antwerp and will be passing it on to Bram (or whomever will be
  taking the dipro stuff along).
 
  A picture is being uploaded currently on this page:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 
  You'll also find the original CMYK scribus file.
 
  Grtz,
  Jurgen.
 
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[Ubuntu-be] Report IRC meeting August 4, 2011

2011-08-04 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
participants (in random order): pvandewyngaerde, woutervddn, jurgentje,
ehj, clamam
== Events ==
=== Past events ===
=== Upcoming events ===
events between brackets: might not be tackled in this meeting - on the
page as a reminder.
   * 2011-09-17
[[http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/Genk/Ubuntu-be%20Team%20Limburg?highlight=%28\bCategoryTeam2011\b%29
| SFD - Genk]]: in cooperation with Library - digitale week with
Ubuntu presentation. (maintainer: Claudio Mamarella)
   * 2011-09-17 SFD - brussels: ehj is looking to have a keysigning
party. Interacts well with the freedom not fear manifestation too.
* (LanForce: 2012-04-06 to 2012-04-08) see
[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings/Reports?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=ubuntu-be-irc-meeting-2011-06-23-report.txt
| report 2011-06-23]] for details
 *  Rock Ternat: 2011-10-7 and 8: This year we probably won't be
able to participate due to contracts already being made. They are
sympathetic to the ideology and suggest we apply for next year. (ideas: 
multiseat computer - Proximus offering online connection?)
=== Worth mentioning ===
* computer club Linux babbel (www.linuxbabbel.be) from Izegem often
talks about Ubuntu (among others)
== Promotion ==
=== Running projects ===
* Roll-Ups: status (maintainer: Jurgen Gaeremyn) - still running.
Nothing happened (comparing prices).

Next meeting: August 18 - 21h00

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] braai - report

2011-08-03 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
On 08/02/2011 11:50 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote:
snip
 
 {{attachment:AddyJanPieterWardWouter.jpg|Addy Jan Pieter Ward
 Wouter|width=400}}

Off-list, Jan pointed out to me that this generated a huge page (with
huge images visually scaled down, but still being downloaded on full-res).

Yep... this is a learning experience for all (or at least both) of us ;)
So I took it to the next level... and created thumbnails. Now I added a
link to the original image, and as description I added a thumbnail
image. Here's how the code looks now:

[[attachment:AddyJanPieterWardWouter.jpg|{{attachment:AddyJanPieterWardWouter-th400.jpg|Addy
Jan Pieter Ward Wouter|width=400}}]]

It starts to look complicated... but if you look calmly, you'll see it's
not that complicated after all. :)
(obviously I had to make the thumbs... too bad the wiki doesn't scale
this down)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

 On 08/02/2011 06:47 PM, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
 Hey Guys,
 sorry for the delay. I've been rather busy.

 A report of our braai can be found here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/SocialEvents/Braai
 I also uploaded some photo's.
 Feel free to add comments

 It was a fun event, and I really think we should do this more often.

 Cheers,
 Jan.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] braai - report

2011-08-02 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey,

Kudos for organizing it.

Great report too, especially if it's your first wiki page!


I noticed you had some troubles with the images... the reason is pretty
basic: you forgot to add (or removed) the extensions... I fixed it for
you (plain Unix style: using the move command) :)

Then... in the article, I just made a few tweaks to have the images show up:

the markup for actually showing images is with accolades instead of
square brackets (those create a link) Furthermore, I added the alt
field and I scaled them down. This is the result:

{{attachment:AddyJanPieterWardWouter.jpg|Addy Jan Pieter Ward
Wouter|width=400}}

Just thought I'd add it here, for teaching purposes :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 08/02/2011 06:47 PM, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
 Hey Guys,
 sorry for the delay. I've been rather busy.
 
 A report of our braai can be found here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/SocialEvents/Braai
 I also uploaded some photo's.
 Feel free to add comments
 
 It was a fun event, and I really think we should do this more often.
 
 Cheers,
 Jan.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help

2011-07-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
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Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area.
Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the
wagon.

Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll
look in the possibilities for this.

Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you
can join on the Brussels SFD.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote:
 Hi to all,
 
 Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If
 you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some 
 activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to
 register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of
 goodies) . See how in the SFD emails.
 
 Regards,
 
 jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
 
 
  Message original  Sujet: [Marketing] SFD
 Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date :  Fri, 29 Jul
 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De :  Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org 
 mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à :   The SFD
 marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org 
 mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour :  The SFD marketing committee
 list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org,
 sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org
 
 
 Dear everybody,
 
 We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams
 registered so far.
 
 That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do
 that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign!
 
 Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities
 in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask
 them to organize and register a SFD event?
 
 Let's keep track of the local communities list here: 
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList
 so we can reuse it for the coming years.  If you cannot edit the wiki
 page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login
 name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the
 list so I can add it for you.
 
 I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to 
 modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and 
 microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local 
 communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list
 as next step.
 
 With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places,
 so let's do it!
 
 If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential
 organizers, please share them here, we can always do better!
 
 *Email*
 
 Register your SFD2011 event now 
 --

  If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this
 year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to
 register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August
 2nd!  SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served
 basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt
 transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-)
 
 Registration is very easy, you just need to :
 
 1) create a wiki page of your event under 
 wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to
 http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your
 event information.
 
 If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto
 on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact
 us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode
 server.
 
 If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD 
 event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 
 http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on 
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide
 
 If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your
 preparation!
 
 Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD
 web banner on your website / blog: 
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD 
 event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank you!
 
 --

 
Pockey
 
 
 

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help

2011-07-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Wouter,

I think it depends on the animo we can get for it.
Every railway station should have its own team (so they can order their
own goodie bags - supplies)

I'm in Brussels, and hope to find a few more people.
If you do the same in Hasselt... great idea for me. I guess you could
find 1 or 2 more people to have around you there...

Grtz,
Jurgen

On 07/29/2011 10:47 AM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 Hey maybe we can do the railroad action again?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseActions
 
 If we can manage to get enough people, we might even be able to do Gent,
 Brussels, and Leuven the same day..
 Or am I seeing things to big here?
 
 Grts 
 
 
 Wouter
 
 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:42:03 +0200
 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On
 Campaign - We need your help

 Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area.
 Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the
 wagon.
 
 Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll
 look in the possibilities for this.
 
 Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you
 can join on the Brussels SFD.
 
 Grtz,
 Jurgen.
 
 On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote:
 Hi to all,
 
 Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If
 you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some
 activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to
 register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of
 goodies) . See how in the SFD emails.
 
 Regards,
 
 jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
 
 
  Message original  Sujet: [Marketing] SFD
 Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date : Fri, 29 Jul
 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De : Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org
 mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à : The SFD
 marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org
 mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour : The SFD marketing committee
 list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org,
 sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org
 
 
 Dear everybody,
 
 We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams
 registered so far.
 
 That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do
 that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign!
 
 Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities
 in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask
 them to organize and register a SFD event?
 
 Let's keep track of the local communities list here:
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList
 so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki
 page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login
 name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the
 list so I can add it for you.
 
 I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to
 modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and
 microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local
 communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list
 as next step.
 
 With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places,
 so let's do it!
 
 If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential
 organizers, please share them here, we can always do better!
 
 *Email*
 
 Register your SFD2011 event now
 
 --
 
 If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this
 year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to
 register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August
 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served
 basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt
 transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-)
 
 Registration is very easy, you just need to :
 
 1) create a wiki page of your event under
 wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to
 http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your
 event information.
 
 If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto
 on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact
 us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode
 server.
 
 If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD
 event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org
 http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide
 
 If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your
 preparation!
 
 Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD
 web banner on your website / blog:
 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD
 event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank 

[Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers

2011-07-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey,

I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but
it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :)

Just looking for some volunteers.
So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th
Here's the place: Brussel Central Station.

As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be
set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one
city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at
your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an
advantage).

If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread
(and put my in cc).
If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here,
and put it on the SFD site.

Here's the list (for Belgium):
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers

2011-07-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise an
event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous:

€600 for a booth (per day)
€195 per person who hands out flyers (per day)

But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the railway
station - on the public road. In that case you need permission of the
local authorities.

To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in Brussels,
except on a few banned places).
If you want to do more (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission.
For doing something public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need
to contact affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's
exactly what I'm going to do now.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote:
 I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations.
 If I remember correctly.
 
 Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker:
 I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let
 me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the
 same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in
 Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can
 put our stand down? grts

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers

2011-07-29 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Feel free to try it. :)

I'm going for public spaces, trying to get in touch with city hall.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07/29/2011 12:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 We might try to get a booth there for free if we can convince them
 to see it as a sponsorship.. 
 http://www.b-rail.be/corporate/N/environment/sponsoring/index.php
 
 Samenwerking met een externe partner kan interessant zijn als:
 
 * er een link is met de trein en/of met andere duurzame mobiliteit; *
 de organisatie/het evenement een rechtsteekse of onrechtstreekse 
 meerwaarde biedt voor onze klanten; * de doelstellingen beantwoorden
 aan de waarden van NMBS (veiligheid, kwaliteit, betrouwbaarheid,
 beroepseer, creativiteit); * de sponsoring in natura
 (vervoerbewijzen) is.
 
 
 Translated: Working together with an external partner can be
 interesting if:
 
 * There is a link to trains and/or other durable mobility; * The
 organisation/the events are a surplus for our customers; * The goals
 merge with the values of NMBS (safety, quality, trustworthiness,
 Job-honor, creativity); * The sponsorship is in natura
 (traintickets).
 
 
 The NMBS open up a way to be mobile, it's a freedom. SFD is about 
 freedom as well. A FREE and SECURE OS is a surplus for their
 customers. The sponsorship would be 2m² for a day, that's natura..
 
 + We aren't a commercial organisation, as a matter of fact, we
 aren't even a Non-profit ATM.. I think we need to try 'n do it for
 free.. From an ethical point they can't object us..
 
 grts
 
 
 Wouter
 
 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:09:48 +0200 From:
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject:
 Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
 
 Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise
 an event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous:
 
 €600 for a booth (per day) €195 per person who hands out flyers
 (per day)
 
 But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the
 railway station - on the public road. In that case you need
 permission of the local authorities.
 
 To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in
 Brussels, except on a few banned places). If you want to do more
 (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission. For doing something
 public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need to contact
 affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's exactly
 what I'm going to do now.
 
 Grtz, Jurgen.
 
 On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote:
 I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in
 stations. If I remember correctly.
 
 Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker:
 I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So
 please let
 me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2
 places
 at the
 same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts
 the
 event in
 Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain
 people if
 we can
 put our stand down? grts
 
 Wouter
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meeting report

2011-07-21 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
As you see... there's some pretty fun ideas coming up:
- we might have a stand on a little festival.
- we're thinking about an event on software freedom day
- we're working on that localized Ubuntu-be ISO
- ...

Interested? Next meeting is:

August 4th - 21:00
We aim to finish around 23:00 - but obviously you can leave sooner if
needed.

You can join the meeting at: http://www.ubuntu-be.org/nl/irc
(or connect through IRC-client to #ubuntu-be on freenode.net)

Grtz,
Jurgen

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Leaving

2011-07-19 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Maik,

sorry to hear you're leaving. Every bit of input you gave, was valued -
as it is from every member. So thanks for that.
I also appreciate you're not just disappearing into silence but actually
step down elegantly (as they say in Ubuntu land).

I'm wishing you all the best in your private life. Getting satisfaction
in life is possibly the ultimate freedom. :)

Oh yeah... just one little thing: you're not leaving Ubuntu... I'm
betting you'll still be using it. :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 07/19/2011 10:55 PM, Maik Adamietz wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 Since i'm not online that often, have no input anymore, can't find my
 way around and some future plans seem to catch up now faster than i
 thought in my private life, i think it's better to leave. This could be
 a bit dissappointing for some of you but it's better this way i guess.
 
 I'm also leaving other projects i'm involved in like Ubuntu NL.
 
 
 Take care and keep it up.
 -- 
 Maik
 
 http://wearetechguys.com
 
 
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-07-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi Martijn,

Just wondering... what's your status on this event?
Next Thursday (or if you're not available August 4th) we'd like to hear
a little status update on this. Could you be present on the meeting?

I didn't get any feedback on the installment meeting - did this happen?

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 06/06/2011 10:30 PM, martijn cielen wrote:
 I really appreciate your effort, but since it seems I'm taking the
 lead in the custom ISO project, I'd propose waiting for the
 installment meeting, in order to avoid multiple people working on the
 same thing, and other things not being worked on.
 I'll organize this meeting later this week.
 If it has been agreed that I'm not taking the lead, please ignore this mail.
 
 Now, for customization, I can tell you from personal experience it
 isn't as straightforward as it looks. Here's the steps I've taken
 before (from the top of my head, so might not be 100% accurate):
 
 1. mount the iso in eg /mnt/iso
 2. mount the squashfs in eg /mnt/squashfs
 3. change the squashfs
 4. recompile the suqashfs
 5. change the iso using an iso tool
 6. test
 
 I used this setup to created a customized installation cd for my
 client, using RedHat. The approach should be similar for Ubuntu.
 
 kindest regards,
 
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[Ubuntu-be] Weekly meeting - let's have another one this Thursday

2011-07-17 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey all,

we've been skipping a few Thursdays on the weekly meetings. Since it's
holidays and there's not that much activity - I can really understand
that. Previous meeting was in June, so I think it's getting time to
launch another meeting. We start at 9 PM sharp and finish around 11 PM.
(no dress code required, please bring your own drink)

*PLEASE ADD YOUR ITEMS TO THE AGENDA!*

I did some tweaking on the agenda page.
Here's the basics:
 * I worked with titles and subtitles (semantically more logic)
 * I split events into past and future.
 ** future events: if someone has something to say about an event:
please remove brackets. Topics between brackets just stay there as a
reminder.
 * I split up promotion into running projects and ideas (I was tempted
to call it ideas and brainfarts but refrained) ;)

In a previous meeting-report I mentioned we were getting some free
publicity in De Ledenaar (23.000 ex. printed + online presence).
You can see it on this link (p. 4):

http://issuu.com/martinvh/docs/den.ledenaar?mode=embedlayout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xmlshowFlipBtn=true


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Flyers have arrived. (Jurgen Gaeremyn)

2011-07-03 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Tom,

I'll be on Voidcon (from brunch). I'll bring them along.

Ward,

If I understand you correctly, you'll see Bram on the braai?
I'll bring along his stock and the ones for Jan Bongaerts along too.

Grtz,
Jurgen


On 07/03/2011 05:12 PM, tom verlinden wrote:
 On 3/07/2011 16:36, bram kortleven wrote:
 Hi Jurgen,

 You can send me a bunch, for the event box for Antwerpen.
 In september, we'll be setting up a booth at the Dipro Computer Fair
 again...

 I think (for now) 400 to 500 will do just fine... I don't have a clue
 how many fairs we'll be present at... As far as I know, 3 times
 between september and june...

 Address:
 Bram Kortleven
 Juul Grietensstraat 2
 2140 Borgerhout

 Thanks!



 Hi,

 The 5.000 flyers are printed.
 Can someone please tell me where to send how many?
 I don't feel like sending flyers to the same person 5 times in a year -
 so please plan wisely (and rather ask a little more)


 Who needs to get flyers:
 - - all the Dipro event teams (same person who is maintaining the Event
 box?)
 - - people planning to organize an install party
 - - people wanting to organize something for Software Freedom day
 (even if
 it's only giving away flyers at the school gate)
 - - people who just can't shut up about Ubuntu, and want to give people a
 souvenir...

 So if you're one of these: please send me a message. (shipments per
 multiples of 100 - won't be exact). So your order 100, 200, 500, 1000
 (or more if you really think you need more).
 Obviously, I can't ship more than I have and large numbers might get
 less.

 Please give a short explanation of the usage in your mail.


 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

 PS. As the EPSFUG will confirm: we all need a PGP-key! Get yours now
 (it's easy to generate). This mail is signed with mine. So if you know
 me, sign my key. :)

 Hi Jurgen,
 
 i could do with 100 flyers, if this is possible.
 There's voidcon in a week or 2 and i'm the kind of person who doesn't
 shut up about Ubuntu, so i'll have no problem handing them out to people
 who are still in the dark, waiting to be liberated.^^
 
 So if it's possible, send them this way:
 tom verlinden
 velodroomstraat 225
 2850 Boom.
 
 Thx in advance!!
 
 


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[Ubuntu-be] Flyers have arrived.

2011-07-02 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

Hi,

The 5.000 flyers are printed.
Can someone please tell me where to send how many?
I don't feel like sending flyers to the same person 5 times in a year -
so please plan wisely (and rather ask a little more)


Who needs to get flyers:
- - all the Dipro event teams (same person who is maintaining the Event
box?)
- - people planning to organize an install party
- - people wanting to organize something for Software Freedom day (even if
it's only giving away flyers at the school gate)
- - people who just can't shut up about Ubuntu, and want to give people a
souvenir...

So if you're one of these: please send me a message. (shipments per
multiples of 100 - won't be exact). So your order 100, 200, 500, 1000
(or more if you really think you need more).
Obviously, I can't ship more than I have and large numbers might get less.

Please give a short explanation of the usage in your mail.


Grtz,
Jurgen.

PS. As the EPSFUG will confirm: we all need a PGP-key! Get yours now
(it's easy to generate). This mail is signed with mine. So if you know
me, sign my key. :)
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[Ubuntu-be] Reminder: IRC meeting tomorrow at 21h00

2011-06-22 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi all,

just a small reminder for the IRC meeting of Ubuntu-be.
Here is the agenda (as can be found online off-course):

The date  time for the meeting is set to Thursday 23/06/2011 at 21 h.
in #ubuntu-be on irc.freenode.net. You can reach the IRC channel through
a web based client at http://ubuntu-be.org/irc. Everyone is welcome to
participate to the meeting, there is no need to register beforehand.

Report will be written in collaboration on: http://piratepad.net/ubuntu-be

Proposed agenda

Events
EPFSUG - June 30 (18h00) in European Parliament Brussels
Beta Group in Brussels - (details by Adrien Rami)
Braai - Sat. July 16 in Antwerp
Ubuntu on festivals?
Promotion

Flyers  Roll-Ups: status
Ubuntu-be USB Sticks: meeting report
Update Wiki and Web-site - update

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Overview
Wiki: update
Website
Suggestion ?
...
Things living in the mailing list (to be updated) and others

New members of the Be LoCo Team ? (Welcome to Olivier Dupont)
...
Next meeting
Proposal: IRC meeting on Thursday 07/07/2011 at 21 h.

You have the possibility to suggest topics for future meetings: see
/SuggestedTopics

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Joining the webteam and helping out

2011-06-11 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
On 06/11/2011 10:30 AM, Pierre Buyle wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:
 Is it your dream to write custom code? (great, then it's a good idea to
 look into how to develop extensions for Drupal) If I'm correct Pierre is
 developing a support point map extension that is already working - but
 there's pretty much space for improvement (f.e. integration with google
 maps, or openstreetmaps if you prefer that).
 Actually, we do have an openstreet powered map now. :D
 

Great job!
I like that you used OSM :)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Joining the webteam and helping out

2011-06-10 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi Maik,

welcome to the web editors team!
What are your expectations? What are your skills?

Is it your dream to write custom code? (great, then it's a good idea to
look into how to develop extensions for Drupal) If I'm correct Pierre is
developing a support point map extension that is already working - but
there's pretty much space for improvement (f.e. integration with google
maps, or openstreetmaps if you prefer that).

Or is it more a thing of adding content to the site? (great too! Drupal
is just cut out for that) What kind of content would you like to add?
(what do you think is missing?)

Or do you have ideas for structural improvements? (other front page,
changing of the structure of the menus, etc...) Unless they are trivial,
I suggest you make your suggestions during an ubuntu-be IRC meeting, or
send a mail to the council (coun...@ubuntu-be.org) explaining your
ideas. Obviously, it can also be discussed on the mailinglist.

There's indeed also translations, updating pages, etc... that has to be
done every now and then. (The part on maintaining updates to Drupal and
all the used extensions, is probably part of Pierres job, I don't think
it's a good idea to have 2 people maintain security unless you make
clear agreements on whom does what)

Really curious what your plans are on the site!
Anyways, great having you in the team.

Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 06/10/2011 10:21 PM, Maik Adamietz wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I want to join in on the web editors team if that would be possible and
 start to contribute/participate to Ubuntu-be. I hope that i can help you
 out in some way and that you could show me the way things are done. I
 believe once i found the way how it all works, it's going to be a piece
 of cake.
 
 Since i joined the Ubuntu-be team a month ago i still haven't been
 really active actually, trying to find my place where i fit in the best.
 Maybe this is a good start.
 
 
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Maik
 
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 http://wearetechguys.com/forum/index.php%5DW.A.T.G.%5B/URL
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Joining the webteam and helping out

2011-06-10 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
... oh, and I almost forgot... there's a little typo in the link to your
website at the end... it goes to a faulty page.
Are you maintainer of that site?

Grtz,
Jurgen

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[Ubuntu-be] Report IRC meeting 2011-06-09

2011-06-09 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Today, we made the report together (thanks to ietherpad).

Here's the report:

Participants (in random order): Jurgentje, massimo21, DarkEra, Warddr, 
pvandewyngaerde, RamiAdrien, JanC, wouter_vddn

= Mobile Vikings lense =
- this should not be an ubuntu-be project, unless there is some added value for 
ubuntu-be, but obviously individual users are free to try some stuff.
- sound like interesting, but not a priority.
- Warddr would like to look into it
- if someone develops that kind of lense, some mutual blogging could obviously 
be done :) (but these are rather individual initiatives on both sides)

= Custom ISO =
Report online:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings/Reports?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=ubuntu-be-irc-meeting-2011-06-02-report.txt
Woutervvdn made some great wallpapers to vent his exam-frustration...
Art Team can add wallpapers (or other artwork)

RamiAdrien got a request from a computer space (espace numérique) to create a 
custom ISO for older people. This can be a nice challenge for after the 
Ubuntu-be ISO is finished (or if someone wants to put energy into this)
RamiAdrien will have a Wiki Page and will maintain it.

= USB Project =
Monday evening there will be a meeting.

= European Parliament =
EPFSUG has an IRC channel #epfsug on OFTC (irc.oftc.net)

ehj (on IRC) works in the EP.
They are organising an Ubuntu-party in the EP, in collaboration with Ubuntu-be 
(somewhere in September).
Woutervddn is active on this.
There's a meeting in June (doodle: http://www.doodle.com/xn2i4p7g7g4hu8pe if 
you want to participate). This would be a small install party and some 
discussion/planning for September.
If September happening goes well, there would be a big event in December.

more info about the event here: http://pad.epfsug.eu/epfsug--ubuntu-be
other epfsug activities at: http://pad.epfsug.eu/epfsug--projects

Flyers for the EP: woutervddn looks to find something on spreadubuntu.com and 
localizes it (and sends it to ehj afterwards)

= Braai =
Jan Bongaerts is organizing...
Interested? Have a look on: http://doodle.com/f2i9h2gsrsp6hz2i

= Ordering of flyers and rollouts =
Jurgen will order 5000 flyers (NL) and 3 rollouts
Shipping will happen to his place - he will redistribute

= Festivals and Ubuntu =
If new information is available, we will tackle this on the next meeting.

= Beta group in Brussels =
RamiAdrien is in contact with Brussels betagroup - they have a great space to 
organize a big Ubuntu event.
Next meeting this will be a major point. RamiAdrien will prepare the 
organisation.


NEXT MEETING: June 23 (21:00)


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Multiboot usb-drive

2011-06-08 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hi Claudio,

I actually tried it, and i didn't work on my PC... hangs on launch.
Maybe I'll try it again, now that I have a fresh install.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 06/08/2011 02:36 PM, Claudio Mammarella wrote:
 Jurgen,
 
 I use a program called Multiboot. 
 My 8gb usb-stick with ubuntu 11.04, ubuntu 10.04, gparted, hiren's bootcd, 
 Xubuntu 10.04, clonezilla,...
 It's very easy to install (download a script from the link and run it) and 
 you can add different iso to your usb-drive by dragdrop.
 Try it.
 
 How to :
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
 
 mvg,
 Claudio
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:27:59 +0200
 From: Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd
 Message-ID: 4dee437f.30...@pandora.be
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Okay... so here's another link - on how to create a multiboot USB
 stick... (if not to be used on our own disc... then maybe interesting
 for the people who want to make their own multiboot USB stick)
 
 Here's what I'm going to put on a stick:
 - Ubuntu 64/32
 - (Ubuntu Localized version asap)
 - Lubuntu 32
 - Edubuntu 32/64
 - Ubuntu Studio 64
 - Ubuntu Rescue Remix 32
 - Backtrack 64
 
 This way, I've got my 8 GIG stick pretty nicely populated :)
 
 This is the link:
 http://www.hcc-vl.be/d001/forum/multiboot-grub-2-usb
 
 (basically, it's an advantage of Grub 2)
 
 Just one more thing I'd look into: maybe I can get Burg to work on it
 too, to have a nicer bootloader.
 
 Grtz,
 Jurgen.
 
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] LocISO installment meeting

2011-06-08 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey Martijn,

cool you're taking up the whip!
As a matter of not inventing the wheel over and over... have a look at
the pointers that were already set out... (no need in wasting time
discussing those issues, imo)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 06/08/2011 02:43 PM, martijn cielen wrote:
 Gents, Ladies and aliens,
 
 I'd like to invite you all to the LocISO installment meeting on Monday
 June 13th at 20:00 on irc.
 Goal of this installment meeting is to set the initial requirements
 and guidelines.
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 whip master M
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] LocISO installment meeting

2011-06-08 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Sure... here they are:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings/Reports?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=ubuntu-be-irc-meeting-2011-06-02-report.txt

(or just go to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings/Reports and you'll see
the link)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

NOT Sent from my iPhone (cuz I don't have one)

On 06/08/2011 07:17 PM, martijn cielen wrote:
 You're absolutely right. Are these on the wiki yet?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 8-jun.-2011, at 17:54, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:
 
 Hey Martijn,

 cool you're taking up the whip!
 As a matter of not inventing the wheel over and over... have a look at
 the pointers that were already set out... (no need in wasting time
 discussing those issues, imo)

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

 On 06/08/2011 02:43 PM, martijn cielen wrote:
 Gents, Ladies and aliens,

 I'd like to invite you all to the LocISO installment meeting on Monday
 June 13th at 20:00 on irc.
 Goal of this installment meeting is to set the initial requirements
 and guidelines.

 Kindest regards,

 whip master M



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-06-08 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hehe...

really crazy, and possibly slightly off-topic... but for those
interested in a truly customized USB-stick: have a look here:

http://www.1minime.com/customized-bobblehead/fun-accessories/

Grtz,
Jurgen.


On 05/25/2011 10:16 PM, Bram Gadeyne wrote:
 Hoi,
 
 De aanvragen voor ubuntu cd's stromen binnen.
 
 Nu is het zo dat ik eigenlijk ook dvd-tjes kan meegeven aan de mensen.
 Is er iemand die weet hoe ik eventueel de 32 en 64 bit versies van
 ubuntu, kubuntu en eventueel edubuntu kan distribueren op dergelijke
 dvd? Mocht er iemand tegelijk ook weten hoe je dit kan personaliseren
 met een menu en standaard selectie Nederlands en dergelijke dan is dit
 ook welkom.
 
 Met vriendelijke groeten
 Bram Gadeyne
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-07 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Wouter,

you were (rightfully) complaining about the poor quality of the Impress
templates in LibreOffice.

I once collected a set of them online (don't remember where though...)
I've put them on my dropbox - you can download them if you want:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7584025/Ubuntu_ODP_Templates.tar.bz2
(15,7 MiB uncompressed)

They can be a basis for designing - or just the plain package for our
localized CD imo...

Grtz,
Jurgen.

P.S. For the lovers of Prezi... there's a great Inkscape plugin that
creates similar SVG-presentations - it's called SoZi!


On 06/03/2011 09:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 *= ISO =*
 To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are
 going to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make
 life easier for Belgian Users.
 We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
 updated..)
 We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed
 to dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
 The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
 decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.
 
 *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
 Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
 endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu
 need to be taken in account.
 A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)
 
 Values:
 
 - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but
 include a minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general
 interest for belgian citizens.
 - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues
 and ubuntu values)
 - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
 - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
 video's we make)
 - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the
 software center, we should make people use it!
 - Keeping things simple
 - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type
 of user. 
 
 
 Needed:
 
 - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
 - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default
 boot language English is suggested)
 - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
 - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
 - AZERTY by default
 - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is
 booted in live mode.
 - Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
 - E-ID program and driver 
 
 
 Unwanted:
 
 - PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for
 security breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see
 later)]
 - Extra DE's
 - Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
 - 'professional' software
 - Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and
 stable enough for us to integrade.)
 - Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for
 the time the ubuntu version is supported. 
 
 
 Wanted:
 
 - (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install
 proces
 - Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice
 (U-fr uses only persistent) 
 
 
 What we might want to add (later):
 
 - Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to
 know their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow 
 Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all
 can be handled here so people find their way to them..
 - A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and
 Desktop Wallpapers is adviced. 
 Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the
 Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
 might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
 we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
 - We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a
 kubuntu one, or a rescue version..) 

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-06-02 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Hey list,

I just got the preview mail of the new Linux Magazine (to which I'm
subscribed). It comes with a DVD with Ubuntu Six Pack (Ubuntu,
Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Rescue Mix)

Maybe we can look and learn :)

Here's a link:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2011/128/Ubuntu-11.04-Sixpack-DVD

(also a nice place to get a trial, or subscribe to the magazine)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

P.S. Hope to make it this evening, can't promise yet.



On 05/25/11 22:16, Bram Gadeyne wrote:
 Hoi,
 
 De aanvragen voor ubuntu cd's stromen binnen.
 
 Nu is het zo dat ik eigenlijk ook dvd-tjes kan meegeven aan de mensen.
 Is er iemand die weet hoe ik eventueel de 32 en 64 bit versies van
 ubuntu, kubuntu en eventueel edubuntu kan distribueren op dergelijke
 dvd? Mocht er iemand tegelijk ook weten hoe je dit kan personaliseren
 met een menu en standaard selectie Nederlands en dergelijke dan is dit
 ook welkom.
 
 Met vriendelijke groeten
 Bram Gadeyne
 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Presentation ubuntu 11.04

2011-06-01 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Nico job!
Do you also have this as an Impress file? (to autorotate on Dipro)

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 06/01/11 15:34, Claudio Mammarella wrote:
 Hello,
 
 @ the last ubuntu-meeting in hasselt on 20 may 2011(Bitmappers
 computerclub) i gave a presentation about 11.04.
 i added it to our wiki.
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Promotion
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Promotion?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=ubuntu+11.04.pdf
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] wegetit?

2011-05-30 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Well,

according to others, it's not-done to post advertisements to a mailing
list (especially not to one that is being archived - thus generating a
permanent page on some pseudo-forum).

But hey, if you prefer a mail falling into your inbox through the
mailinglist over one falling into your inbox outside the list... who am
I to complain. I think both ways would have resulted in some criticism.

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 05/30/11 13:07, Maik Adamietz wrote:
 Jurgen,
 
 I understand your point and think you are right. But however, that's my
 logical thinking, this person could have sent us a more personal mail
 explaining to us he has opened a (web)shop and giving us a real name
 who's behind this.
 
 Now it looks like a ordinary spam mail.. altough i like the idea.
 
 Also look at the end of the wegetit mail, there's a link to
 unsubscribe and no longer recieve the newsletter.

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