Re: [videoblogging] Just before you start belitting me again.

[David Meade]

"And being Arrogant and cocky to people from anywhere other
than the US, even though it is meant in a joke is seen as in very bad
taste." ... "I personally, don't see
Americans as being that arrogant, I kinda understand the sense of
humor."



Is it somehow in good taste to be arrogant and cocky to people from the
US?  Are Americans just not as deserving of good manners?

Besides ... did I miss the thread here where some American went all
"Fuck the rest of the world" on us?  What are we talking about
here?  ... serously?

"Western Foreign policy dictates that if you are not with us, you are against us."


Will being arrogant and cocky to actual
Americans somehow alter some aspect of US foreign policy? 
Wouldn't it be wiser to have a discussion about actual issues rather
than just lob a bunch of insults and see what happens?  

I mean ... make a video speaking to the US Administration about WHY
those things are thought (or better yet make a video for 10 Downing ...
Lord knows there's plenty of issues in need of addressing there) ... at
least then you're addressing a problem and not bashing an entire
nation.  The general American (or human being for that matter)
would far more likely take that to heart than a stream of insults.

"two a state of play as what the world outside of the
United States regards all Americans as."


Maybe that's part of the problem ...  How are we supposed to react
to something meant to relate a stereotype?  Is it supposed to help
us somehow?

If I were to make a video of someone wearing the union jack, bad teeth,
playing croquet, sipping tea, and snubbing their nose at anyone not
doing the same ... would this video be of any real use to you? 
You really think it would be valuable?  Would is somehow help you
eliminate that stereotype? ... or croquet?  I mean what is it
exactly your video is supposed to accomplish other than piss people off?

a) We know the stereotype and its as frustrating as any other stereotype.
b) We know the general opinion the world at large has of the US
administration right now ... beating the "we hate America" horse isn't
really speaking to the issues ... its certainly not going to bridge any
gaps ... why bother with such a useless stream of generalizations?
c) As for those arrogant Americans who don't care what the rest of the
world things ... such a video is NOT going to convince them ... to
start caring.

so ... what is it really supposed to accomplish? ... serously?

"It is just the Corporations and Government, mind you as far as
throwing stones when you have a glass house is concerned, the UK gov
sucks too.  So if we are going to be the fighting force better
than the media as we now it today, maybe we need to be a little more
listening to other people's point of view, instead of trashing anything
that isn't American or British for that matter."


I kinda wish you'd had that thought before you made that video, myself.

... I'm going back to the puppies thread ... so much freakin' drama here lately.

 ... honestly ...

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[videoblogging] PSP to support Video Blogs on device ...

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Re: [videoblogging] WIRED: Could High-Def Choke Internet?

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http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060515On 5/15/06, David Meade
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http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/13/the-big-lie-of-the-week/It doesn't matter how many times the CEO of Verizon SWEARS they would never do anything distasteful with such power ... the fact is they could without net neutrality.  This is the same group of companies that forked over consumer data IN VIOLATION of the law (without court orders) to the NSA (1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Section 222 of the Communications Act (phone
companies are prohibited from giving out information about their
customers' calling habits), and oh ... THE FOURTH AMENDMENT!) ... yeah we should trust them.Dont listen to their propganda! :-)
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Re: [videoblogging] WIRED: Could High-Def Choke Internet?

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There's an interesting blog on SaveTheInternet.com about how the telco companies are trying to spin their want for the abolishment of free speech on the internet as a good thing.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/13/the-big-lie-of-the-week/It doesn't matter how many times the CEO of Verizon SWEARS they would never do anything distasteful with such power ... the fact is they could without net neutrality.  This is the same group of companies that forked over consumer data IN VIOLATION of the law (without court orders) to the NSA (1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Section 222 of the Communications Act (phone
companies are prohibited from giving out information about their
customers' calling habits), and oh ... THE FOURTH AMENDMENT!) ... yeah we should trust them.Dont listen to their propganda! :-)On 5/14/06, LeanBackVids.com
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Re: [videoblogging] puppies!!!!

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haha yeah I was gonna say ... "pictures?!"  ... you mean ones that DONT move?!   ... thats so 1999. :-POn 5/15/06, Markus Sandy <
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Ben wrote:>I have 7 puppies they are German Shepherd and Yellow Lab and they are>driving me nuts anybody want one? I am in the Cincinnati tristate area.>I'll post some pictures if anybody is interested.
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Re: [videoblogging] Information Tollroad: Don't let them muzzle us!

[David Meade]

Great quote!  That video of Colbert at the press dinner was
freakin' awesome ... although CSPAN is working to have clips taken down
from video sharing services (They want to sell the bit themselves).

(Save The Internet! :-P)

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Almost overnight, the media world has irrevocably changed as video is
increasingly becoming as important as print and still images on the
web. When, in a matter of hours, dozens of websites can post or
link to a video and get the word out about a spectacular event, the
role of the gatekeepers and the corporate media shrinks big-time. And
it doesn't matter if the networks or CNN or Fox decides that they don't
want you to see it -- they can't stop it. The people's network is now
in working order. Progressives now have a television capacity; still rudimentary, perhaps, but powerfully effective." [emphasis mine] 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PC People (warning: relevant product plug) ? Not exactly vlogging but?

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I have all sorts of incoming ports open to my network.  My ISP at least is pretty good about that.  The downside of course is that in addition to the NATing and Firewalling done on my router, I've got to keep good software firewalls on all the PCs at all times ... a small price to pay I guess.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlog with html links?

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Yeah I love the eZedia program, I use it for all my videos.

The end of my videos has a single frame with my logo, url, cc license
info, and a comment button.  Each is clickable and takes you to
the appropriate place.

The demo can do up to 5 items on a frame.  I think my frame has 6
itmes :-P  It's a cool little app and worth the purchase price if
you ask me.  (If you want to see a simple example of what you can
do with it you can check out  one of my videos as well. 
Here's a random one:
http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post.php?topicID=805 )On 5/12/06, Andreas Haugstrup <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Thu, 11 May 2006 23:41:35 +0200, awarner20 <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Yes, I'm looking to put text links now at the end of the video. I> will be using original music from local bands and would likr to link
> to their websites with a text link. Eventually, I'd like to put in an> image link, but I'll settle for just text to get started.Adrian mentioned eZedia a coupel of times, but I want to echo him. It is
really eassy to use, so if you have $50 to spare it's a good buy foranyone who wants to add any type of links to video. For what you want todo you can get by using the free demo version (if you already have
Quicktime Pro), but you'll quickly find the demo limiting.You can download the demo and buy the full version at http://www.ezedia.com/products/eZediaQTI/
 > - some video tutorials areincluded in the download IIRC.eZedia can handle everything described below. I've just included moreoptions for you.If you're on a tight budget Quicktime text tracks are en option. If you're
on a Mac Textation (that Adrian mentioned) http://home.netvigator.com/~feelorium/feelorium/Textation/index.html > is
a good way to make these tracks. If you're on a PC you can either writethem by hand using this tutorial http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/hreftracks.html
 > These will turnthe entire video window into a link. If you want regular text with links Imade an old old tool at http://www.solitude.dk/archives/QT-thingie/
> (remember to read the instructions linked from the top).If you want an image link (like a tv bug) with a link you can use SMIL andLinkubator 
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Re: [videoblogging] Video Search

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I registered with them as well.   It's a really cool
idea.  My vlog is there somewhere, and if you find it and search
specifically against that series it works ok. 

The accuracy isn't as good on my videos as it is on Rocketboom ... I guess I should speak more clearly. :-)

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On 5/11/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> In case anyone is interested we have been working with this really> cool company called Podzinger.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Questions: RSS, PSP, 3g, IP ...

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I wrote up a quick PHP script to check most of that stuff.  It returns an array of data so that in your page you can call the function and then test things like:$request['agent']or$request['os']or$request['isBOT']
and a bunch of other booleans I added in.  It will even (try to) tell you if the request is servicing more than one subscriber.  For example a mefeedia request may be serving many subscribers ... this function will tell you how many (when such information is provided).
Check out: http://www.davidmeade.com/resources/getSubscriberInfo.phpI'll send you the php file, however it would be up to you to then test the values this function returns and decide what to do based off of it.
Example:$request = getSubscriberInfo();if ($request['agent'] == 'iTunes') { // do something here}else { // do something else.}It doesnt do country of origin, but it could ...  I dont know how to do it off the top of my head, but it shouldnt be TOO difficult.  If its the killer feature you're dying for let me know and I'll try to find some time to figure it out.
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I would be very very interested in that ... thanks, you can e-mail meofflist if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Waz
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> requesting my feed.  I used it to estimate subscribers ... I movedover to> feedburner and abandonded my script ... but it certainly is possible... I> know of at least one script that did something similar :-P
>> I dont have alot of time to spend coding, but I could probably whipup with> a php function to return the user agent, IP, and OS (when/if such> information is available) ... would that be enough for you to accomplish
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Re: [videoblogging] Digital Camera with Video and Sound capability recommendations?

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I use the Canon SD400 and like it.  like most digital cameras used for videos, its best when there is plenty of light, but over all I like it.  here's are a few examples of videos taken with it:

http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post.php?topicID=535http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post.php?topicID=573

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an Olympus digital camera with video. I really like using the camerabecause it's much more portable, but it isn't able to record sound.Does anyone here use a digital camera with a microphone? If so, can you

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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On 5/9/06, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe I should make a tutorial on how to subscribe and read this list.1. Use something threaded like Gmail2. Set up a rule/filter so it doesn't all show up in your inbox3. Ignore threads you're not interested in
4. Flag the ones you're watching5. Mark everything that's dropped out of view as read
That's not a bad idea.  Gmail (or similar reader) is approximately
1.7billion times better than the yahoo groups page, and its 'search
mail' feature makes searches much easier.  (If you do do something
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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On 5/9/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Make no mistake about it -- there is great information thatpasses through here, from new ideas and new trends, technicalinnovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggersexploring new possibilities.

But, again thats not the issue.  And I'm not making any such mistake, myself ... as I said earlier:

"This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just
starting.  No body is saying otherwise.  The simple question was
essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that
information to make it more accessible "for those people who cant
follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen
different groups to find the information."

If the answer is No, its no.  If the answer is Yes its yes. 
But saying "this list has great ideas in it already" doesnt address the
issue.  The question wasnt "how can we get better information out
there" it was "how can we get information out there better".  

Anyway ... this topic is so all over the map now, I doubt this thread
can really discuss it fairly ... no matter we'll do the same run around
again in six months. :-P

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

[David Meade]

ok maybe I'm just in a bad mood and reading between the lines when I shouldn't be ... sorry.

However ... This topic has come up several times.  And as Heath
points out, that wouldn't be the case if it were in fact the silliest
idea ever presented here ... clearly there are some pros to the idea.

And yet, each time it has come up, its been so immediately scoffed at,
flamed, and scolded *by the heavy contributors of this list* ... that
the real benefits to the lurkers never really gets a chance at honest
discussion ... an irony that really ticks me off.

 *huff*huff*huff* 
 
 .. ok I'm gonna go take my 'meds' now.
 
 - DaveOn 5/9/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




i apologize to Heath if my use of the word 'silly' hurt his feelings.  

if that came off as harsh, it was not intended (he is our Batman geek,
after all).  

i meant it light-heartedly and it clearly did not come across that way
to you david.

silly is not a word i consider 'harsh', but  i will try to be more
careful with others in the future.

for the record, you can generally tell when I'm being harsh when I
punctuate my sentences with the words "dumb asshole" :)




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Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone
who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k
people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users.  That may
not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton" "is the current
format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new
names in active posters list".
  
  
Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the
fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others
in this thread are simply asking "would we see more participation from
newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present
this FLOOD of information in another way".
  
  
How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones
opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read.
  
Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to
become active.  So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack
perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is
going to do it)
  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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I'm not making a suggestion for change ... I'm asking about impact of it.On 5/9/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


  






David Meade wrote:
sigh 
  
  On 5/9/06, Andreas
Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
  If
people want to be heard they should post. There's no
need to ask for permission, just post. 
  
And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick.  So ... we're
left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance
around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ...
would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment.
  
  


Seems like rather a disruptive way to find out, no? So we tear down
this group, start a forum, shift everyone over, and then check to see
if we have more posters? If we have fewer, should we move back here?






  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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sigh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
a) It's not "old standards" who form the majority of the top 50 over thepast month. [*][*] A quick skim tells me that only 6 of the people on the top 50 list for
last month have been members of the group for 18 months (nov. 2004). (Jay,
Me, Steve Garfield, Deirdré, Josh Kinberg, Andrew Baron). That's not a lot
if you ask me. If you sort the member list by date joined you'll see all
sorts of really awesome people who are no longer posting (like Sean
Gillian and Lisa Harper).
You have a fairly restrictive view of 'old standards' ... 

b) It only takes 6 e-mails to get on the famous top 50 list of internetfame. Whoopie.

ok ... only 6 ... and yet still it all very well known names. 
Adjust your definition of old standards to people who have been active
for an entire year ... most of those names will be on it.
c) Even if it was, who cares? Exactly what would moving to a different
format change? 
Thats a very good question.  one we are trying to discuss.  I dont see why people are insulting others. 
If people want to be heard they should post. There's noneed to ask for permission, just post. 

And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick.  So ... we're
left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance
around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ...
would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment.
 
Or should there be created rulesalong the lines of "If you've been on the list for more than 18 months you
may only post twice per week"?
ok ... so far off the mark I'm not sure where to start with this. 
The concern is NOT that old standards are posting to much, but rather
that newbies may feel too overwhelmed to join in as well.

I give up.  apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and
18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:



  




and, yes suggesting that 'this group is not growing with the rest of
the group' was the silliest thing i had heard I'll avoid the temptation to start quoting obvious threads you've overlooked or blacked out  of your memory. :-P


i apologize for not picking one of your statements if that's what
bothering you (j/k)
Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users.  That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton" "is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list".
Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others in this thread are simply asking "would we see more participation from newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present this FLOOD of information in another way".
How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read.Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to become active.  So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is going to do it)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
no offense , but this is the silliest thing  i've read yetoh well gee how could anyone take offense to that.It's not the silliest thing, and if you frequent this mailing list ... it cant be the silliest thing you've read.
No offense, but just because you don't think something should change doesn't mean opinions to the contrary are silly or unfounded.  It just means you dont wnat it to change.  Thats perfectly fine, but Heaths got a point, it wouldn't be an issue so often if there werent at least some good reasons out there to put the idea in peoples head.
There are clearly pros and cons to each model ... squashing discussion as if there aren't ... that is whats silly.This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting.  No body is saying otherwise.  The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible" for those people who cant follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen different groups to find the information.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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Yeah it also creates a feed for the most recent posts in and across all public forums/topics ... the 'uber-feed'.On 5/9/06, Bill Streeter <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:There is a RSS plugin for PHPbb that does this. Creates an RSS feed
for every forum and every topic. I saw it in the mods database atthe PHPbb.com.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Carvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> as long as there was rss for each sub-community, as well as an> uber-rss for the whole shebang, i'd be okay with it. As it is, I
don't> receive list messages via email - I stick with rss to keep my inbox> nice and clean. -ac>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <
meade.dave@>> wrote:> >> > Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.  I think part of the issue isthe> volume of> > traffic in this list can be daunting.  New folks become lurkers
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willing to> > post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to knoweverything> > anyway.> >> > I always though a forum system with the following topics wouldbe good:
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

[David Meade]

On 5/9/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



ok just a warning... let's not start the "what shall we call it" conversation again... if we as a community want to use a forum instead of the list, a lot of changes need to happen and a lot of habits need to change... how would we make a group of thousands switch?
For a while anyway, both would surely co-exist.  But if such a forum system had an easy public RSS feed ... there's no reason the group of thousands couldnt subscribe to it ... the usage would naturally move over time to which ever turned out the be most used in actual practice.
Such an RSS feed could also be used with any of the rss->email services to give a nearly identical feel to our current system. (with the exception of actual posting would have to be done via the web)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap

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Awesome, Blips.  I've been there a few times but didnt see an RSS button.  Is there a public feed?I guess from "David's Perfect World", the feed would be public - anyone could view the topics, but they'd have to be members to post/reply (just like the yahoo group)
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David;Exactly what is going on at VlogAssist.com it is so close to your listand YES is has RSS for members to subscribe to every topic or tochoosen topics.Maybe a little tweak to the topics and its a done deal.
Blipshttp://vlogassist.com Vlogging resourceshttp:/vlogmatic.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.  I think part of the issue is thevolume of> traffic in this list can be daunting.  New folks become lurkersbecause they> cant possible catch/keep up :-P
>> A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and themore brave> could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great.  If wecould> have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience
> wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still seeeverything in> one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to> post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything
> anyway.>> I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:>>- FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)>- Events and Meetups>- Videoblogging in the news
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Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap

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Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.  I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting.  New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-PA forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great.  If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway.
I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)Events and Meetups
Videoblogging in the newsCameras and HardwareEditing and CompressionBlogs and HostingRSS and PublicationAggregators and ReadersOther Support / Technical Help
Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!)Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.)
Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.)The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.)
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Re: [videoblogging] How can i host Vpip and which is a better host bluehost.com or dreamhost.com

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I've not had any issues with email or hosting.   YMMVIts a shame to hear others have had poor experiences with them, they've been great for me.On 5/8/06, 
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www.blogger.com>account! Also Which is better bluehost.com or dreamhost.com  I need a>web page that has pretty easy edeting tools since im not that
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Re: [videoblogging] how to use vpip onm blogger!?!

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On 5/8/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Enric ... perhaps on one of the community sites would be willing to host the current version for production use.  (vlogdir or freevlog or the new vlogassist?)
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Re: [videoblogging] how to use vpip onm blogger!?!

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It just means that you need to have an internet address with which to point to vPIP  ...  many people upload vPIP to their webserver and use their own url ... however if youre using blogger you may not have a webspace to use.
So then you'll need to find a place where vPIP is already online and ask the person hosting it if you can point to it (out of courtesy).Enric ... perhaps on one of the community sites would be willing to host the current version for production use.  (vlogdir or freevlog or the new vlogassist?)
ninelow99 ...I dont want to confuse the issue at all but if you want you can try out the script I made if you want (its similar to vPIP).  It's already online.  Just include the following in the  portion of your blogger template:
http://www.davidmeade.com/resources/media_player.js">
Then, all you'll have to do is include a link to your movies within your posts.  (more info available at: 
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)(FYI, I'm not claiming my script is as good as Enrics ...  his is wicked cool with all sorts of features and enjoys active development ... but you're welcome to use my script until you get vPIP up and going)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: How can i host Vpip and which is a better host bluehost.com or dreamhost.com

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probably very similar.  Bluehost also has very quick response timewith support questions.Dennis Pouletteymimexico.org/vlog--- In 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Questions: RSS, PSP, 3g, IP ...

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I wrote a php script once to parse out the user agent and OS of people requesting my feed.  I used it to estimate subscribers ... I moved over to feedburner and abandonded my script ... but it certainly is possible ... I know of at least one script that did something similar :-P
I dont have alot of time to spend coding, but I could probably whip up with a php function to return the user agent, IP, and OS (when/if such information is available) ... would that be enough for you to accomplish what you want to do?
You could then use/test those values to decide what version of the feed to give them.- DaveOn 5/8/06, Jen Simmons <
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with an in-depth tutorial !!!:-)you'll get lots of brownie points and well wishesas far as I know many of us have been wishing for something like this,but no one's yet done it...(ok, jump in to correct me if / where I'm wrong)
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[David Meade]

This is caused by feedburners new download tracking stats.  It
rewrites your enclosures so that click throughs to the media files pass
through feedburner so they can keep count.

For whatever reason the way they've chosen to do it, is to name ALL enclosers like this:

 feedname.ext?d=#

where feedname is your feedburner id, ext is the file extension, and #
is a unique number identifying the file this generic name should point
to.

I've posted to their forums letting them know that this isn't ideal:
   http://forums.feedburner.com/viewtopic.php?t=3988

The seem receptive to the feedback, but if you want feel free to add a "yeah what he said" to the above post.

Some folks from feedburner are going to be at the Chicago MTV even this month, I'll press the issue with them in person. :-)
- Dave

On 5/8/06, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anyone had any problems hosting .M4V files (iPod videos) through
1&1 Internet hosting?  I usually have LibSyn host my video,
but I've begun moving everything to my 1&1-hosted site, and now
something has gone horribly wrong.  FireAnt and iTunes both only
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at the end.  So these aggregators are offering to download a bunch
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Re: [videoblogging] Stuck

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I'm pretty sure its included in Quicktime version 7.  Do you have the latest version of Quicktime player installed?If not, try grabbing the latest free version of QT available.
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GrrrI forgot that the reason I walked away from putting videos up for awhile was because I've got some frustrating issues.But I was so excited to put together a Vloggercon Promo that I crashedhead first into the impenitrable wall of error messages.
Ok, here's the issue:The files that come off my camera are mov.I'm on a PC using Windows Movie Maker because Avid doesn't work forsome reason (retried it again today just for kicks, still not working).
I've tried multiple free converters (I've lost count) and none of themworked properly.PS Thanks to Verdi who suggested one a while back (it has been themost successful of all the failures), I tried it but when I try to
play the converted video all I get is sound, it says that I don't havethe right codec (H263)So, where can I get this H263 codec?  I've looked all over for it andI see lots of pages describing it but nowhere where I can get it.  But
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Re: [videoblogging] Questions: RSS, PSP, 3g, IP ...

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Sure you could create a php file to offer different version of the feed based on user agent.  Just be sure to take into account that the user doesnt HAVE to send an agent string ... and if they do ... they dont HAVE to tell the truth. :-P
IP to countries can be done as well, but its not always 100% accurate.On 5/7/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <
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However,... the thing to note is that iPod can only play M4V files; and PSP's can only play MP4 files.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: i need good Soft ware/good web hosting

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Welcome.Firstly, I strongly recommend using QuickTime Pro.  There are windows editors that will export QuickTime, however they do not have complete access to the QuickTime API.  Specifically I think its the AAC Audio compression that they cant do ... which means you cant make ipod compatible videos.  It's best, im my opinion, to use your editor of choice to export AVIs, and then use QuickTime Pro to convert those AVIs to quicktime.
I use bluehost for mys hosting.  They're nice.  Great support.  They have pretty good bandwith offers too, but with services like blip.tv and ourmedia.org
, that shouldnt be an issue no matter where you go.- Davehttp://www.davidmeade.comOn 5/7/06, Gena
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Welcome, this is the place to ask questions! If you are a PC user whowants to post videos in QuickTime you have a few options.1. Buy QuickTime Pro for WindowsIt has a quirky way of editing. It is cut and paste, no transitions
unless you find them via a third party, but there are advantages tousing the program.http://www.quicktime.com2. Many of the consumer friendly programs have an export function that
saves in the .MOV format. Ulead Studio 9 or 10, Adobe PremireElements, almost all of the $80 to $100+ video editing programs haveand .MOV export feature. The advantage of these programs is that theyhave guides or wizards to walk you through editing but have enought
punch when you are ready for more challenging videos.http://www.ulead.comhttp://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/
This wiki page has more like resources:http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogging_SoftwareIf you camera has a video function that only exports out in .MOV then
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

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On 5/7/06, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But let's not kidourselves that a neutral net will save the world. I never said net neutrality would save the world, I said it would limit our means to continue to try and speak out and educate that world.
I never said it would sif american schools or teach high schoolers where India is on a map ... I never said it would increase 'world interest' ... I said without it we loose one of our last 'free' publication mediums with wich to try and fix those problems.  Can the net do that ... maybe.  Today? No.  Tomorrow?  Maybe ... ONLY if we get net neutrality on the books.
Yes I listed some worst case night mare scenerios .. are they likely ... I dont know .. the simple fact is that they are possible without net neutrality on the books.It is in everyones best interest to get net neutrality on the books ... no matter where in the world they are.
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Re: [videoblogging] QUICK... Someone with an iPod???

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Looks great on the video iPod Casey!  It automatically added the
black bars at the top and bottom.  Cant wait to subscribeOn 5/7/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey guys,I just posted a Teaser on Galacticast.com
 and am looking for avolunteer to download the file to their iPod to tell me whether itworks okay or not... the show will be in widescreen even though theiPod is not (yet), so I just want to see whether it:
a) automatically adds black bars on top and bottom of screen;b) stretches/warps it vertically to fit your screen;c) doesn't work at all.Please let me know ASAP since I'm launching Galacticast on Monday.
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Re: [videoblogging] my trip to America

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On 5/6/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Don't worry, Paul. Once you're here, we'll collect the DNA necessaryto put you into "The System."  After that, it's really a short flightto Gitmo.LOL


Biometric passport?! Thats new.  I have to go renew mine actually ... I hope I dont have to do anything too big brotherish.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

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On 5/6/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FYI: Deirdre is an American. :o)
That doesnt make her numbers on passport holders - or implication that
the number is caused by disinterest in the world any more valid ...
clearly by the study you pointed to it simply makes her a less reliable
source. :-P
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

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I just cant let this one go ... you've hit a nerve ... not that is has any relevance what so ever to the issue. really ...

Firstly, your statement that 15% of Americans had passports is a bit
dated? According to survey last year the number is more like 34%
(http://www.canadatourism.com/ctx/files/announcements/Impact_of_the_WHTI_eng_web.pdf
)

2ndly:
  even booking 3months in advance, a quick search tells me that a
tip to London (which is relatively close) will take me 13 hours to get
there and cost almost 2,000 dollars.  
 Given the serious loss of time required for your average American
to get somewhere overseas they cant just hop out for a weekend in
another country (like many Europeans could).  
 They certainly couldn't do it considering its going to cost them 2,000 for the day.  
 
Most American employers don't send the majority of their employees overseas.
 The expense is significant for most Americans ... planning a
larger trip helps, but in the end it just raises the cost.  The number of
people not having passports here has to do with the number of people who can
afford to travel overseas ... not the number of people who care about
the world around them.

 Elsewhere in the world people CAN just hop on a train and spend
the day or the weekend in another country - no wonder more of them have
a passport at the ready than Americans.

 Implying that Americans are globally disinterested ignorants just
because the average American cant afford to cross the pond ... is ...
well ignorant ... if not insulting.

 Passport statistics have no relevance to Americans interest in
the rest of the world.  Most of us are quite interested in
international affairs, and how American policy is playing out in the
great big world.

 Leaving such irrelevant statistics behind, the fact remains that
Americans are no more universally ignorant than citizens of any other
country where the leaders lie to them and he media cant be trusted to
stand up for them.  Blame Americans for that if you want, but I wouldn't call that fair.

And 3rdly, what Americans DO or do NOT know ... should not be judged by
tidbits edited together for the greatest effect by some TV show trying
to sell a point.

 The fact remains that the Internet has and is helping a great
deal to keep issues alive in the American Public that otherwise would
have died out ... and that not protecting Net Neutrality WILL
negatively impact Americans ability to remain 'in the know' to the
extent that they are now (which I believe you may have misjudged).

- DaveOn 5/6/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








On 5/3/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





NB: I agree
with the principle of net neutrality, I just don't see it as a panacea
to the world's problems, and it can be hard to get people to listen to
your arguments if you fill them with hysterical, overblown points. 
You mean overblown points like the 'fact' that because many Americans
don't have passports they're ignorant?  Or that because some
camera crew managed to film a few idiots they are representative of The
American People?

It really irks me when people who distrust the Mainstream media's
ability to report the facts suddenly latch on to scenes like Jay Leno's
'jay walking' as a benchmark for what Americans do and don't know about
the world.

For the record I've traveled all over the world ... but America isn't
like Europe where another country is an hours drive.  It's a huge
land mass with distinctly different cultures within it's own borders
... you shouldn't be so quick to count the fact that not alot of them
manage to afford the time or expense to travel over seas as some black
mark against them.

All that being said ... this idea that Net Neutrality is an American
problem is pretty dismissive of the issue.  If the net breaks down
here into a handful of ISPs seeing who can charge the most to the
others clients it will damage the whole of the Internet.  And it
will cause issues on networks overseas.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

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On 5/6/06, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 5/3/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
NB: I agree
with the principle of net neutrality, I just don't see it as a panacea
to the world's problems, and it can be hard to get people to listen to
your arguments if you fill them with hysterical, overblown points. 
You mean overblown points like the 'fact' that because many Americans
don't have passports they're ignorant?  Or that because some
camera crew managed to film a few idiots they are representative of The
American People?

It really irks me when people who distrust the Mainstream media's
ability to report the facts suddenly latch on to scenes like Jay Leno's
'jay walking' as a benchmark for what Americans do and don't know about
the world.

For the record I've traveled all over the world ... but America isn't
like Europe where another country is an hours drive.  It's a huge
land mass with distinctly different cultures within it's own borders
... you shouldn't be so quick to count the fact that not alot of them
manage to afford the time or expense to travel over seas as some black
mark against them.

All that being said ... this idea that Net Neutrality is an American
problem is pretty dismissive of the issue.  If the net breaks down
here into a handful of ISPs seeing who can charge the most to the
others clients it will damage the whole of the Internet.  And it
will cause issues on networks overseas.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

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We may still be able to send email ... but if that's all we can do without paying a premium charge or per KB or something ... then its not like a comet hitting the Earth its like a comet hitting the Internet ... it'll be dead and gone.
Sure the Net Neutrality issue is in the US congress right now Andreas, but you are fooling yourself if you think that wont effect your experience.  Any network traffic that traverses the backbone of a US company would be influenced.
What if AT&T decides foreign browsers need to pay an tariff to access its bandwidth?  Most of the providers are, or to some level want to be, a media outlet as well.  (TimeWaner, Comcast, ... The Bells want in on media).  Why wouldn't each limit access to ituens so as to make their media outlet more attractive.  
Without Net Neutrality the net becomes just a bunch of large ISPs paying tolls for that traffic it chooses to allow through .. .and that would hurt the entire global Internet community.
I mean lets talk nightmare scenerio for a sec:  What if political ideas contrary to the (theoretical) US administration
were suddenly never heard by the masses because huge amounts of money from lobbyists
allows for those ideas to get squashed?  God knows the mainstream media fails to cover all sorts of very important global issues here.  How ignorant of world affairs
would US citizens be?  How long before US foreign policy gets a blank
check with out so much as the general populace even knowing the issues?  That hurts more than just Americans too.How long before ISPs in other countries - seeing the insain profits and control that US ISPs would gain from this - follow suit?
( And yeah Rhett my mesh network idea wouldn't have the bandwidth (at least at first) ... but it would only have to last long enough for the revolt to get underway :-P )- Dave
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Re: [videoblogging] Us vs. the UN

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you know the other day when thinking about net neutrality and savetheinternet.com and what not ...I started thinking .. what would we do if they messed up the internet this badly?  I started to envision a global darknet with city-wide wireless mesh networks and radio links between cities ... bypassing the backbone all together ... (The Short Wave Radio Operator in me really got excited about that) ...
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Re: [videoblogging] Save The Internet!

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Matching Heath, I just added net neutrality  andsave the internet(with spaces) to my posts.- DaveOn 5/3/06, Devlon <
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On 5/3/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I wonder if it would be valuable to tag all our "Save The Internet" related videos.  It would be
interesting to get a feed of videos that support net neutrality. 
(SaveTheInternet.com might even be interested in linking to such a feed to show movement on the issue among The People)

What do you (everyone) think?  Is i worth it?  If it is ... would we tag them 'netneutrality' or 'savetheinternet' ... or what??Yeah, good idea.  We'll be posting our 2cents about the issue shortly and will use both netneutrality and savetheinternet tags :)
Just for grins we plan to smear it all over...youtube, dailymotion, etc.


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[videoblogging] Save The Internet!

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I wonder if it would be valuable to tag all our "Save The Internet" related videos.  It would be
interesting to get a feed of videos that support net neutrality. 
(SaveTheInternet.com might even be interested in linking to such a feed to show movement on the issue among The People)

What do you (everyone) think?  Is i worth it?  If it is ... would we tag them 'netneutrality' or 'savetheinternet' ... or what??

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Re: [videoblogging] immigrants' rights events on internet TV

[David Meade]

Cool, thanks for the notice.  I just submitted my footage from the Chicago march.Thanks,  Dave-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:  
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Hi,David with Participatory Culture here... wanted to let everyone know
about an open-submissions documentary project by MediaRights, usingDemocracy internet TV:http://mediarights.org/may1Everyone is invited to link to video they have of recent immigrants'
rights events from around the country -- MediaRights has set up anopen channel on their installation of Broadcast Machine publishingsoftware.It's a perfect example of how open internet TV works as participatory,
community media -- capturing these immigration events nationwide asonly grassroots media can. There's some very cool footage up anddocumentaries up there already, and we hope you'll add some of yourown, it's open to everyone.
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Re: [videoblogging] QTpro

[David Meade]

well first of all ... not all quicktime options are open to other pieces of software on a windows platform.  You can have an editor that says it does QT just fine, but QT Pro will still have some options that it doesnt. (at least that my understanding and experience).  So if you want to produce QuickTime, then yes its definately worth getting QT Pro.  
QuickTime will (as I have learned) be able to produce files just as small/high-quality as WMV ... its just a matter of having the tools to make it do so.  Which to my thinking is gonna require QuickTime Pro.
Windows media files are fine.  However you cant really compare them to "QuickTime" because "QuickTime" supports all sorts of codecs ... comparisons to WMV has to be done against a specific flavor of QuickTime.
The bottom line is that using comparable compression settings, WMVs and QuickTime each do very well with similar results. 
If you're not concerned about being ipod compatible, and dont see
yourself using interactivity in your movies ... it's really just a
personal choice.  If either of those are important to you ... go Quicktime.Advantages to WMV (within a windows production environment): 1) its VERY easy to produce WMVs. (And they can produce very nice quailty images at decent file sizes).
 2) There are all sorts of editors out there with all sorts of feature sets. 3) WMP is installed on most PCs in the world (Microsoft monopoly) - and in some cases users arent free to install quicktime.

Disadvantages to Quicktime (within a windows production environment): 1) Almost no good software editors that work well with Quicktime (unless you want to spend lots of money).  Avid has a free tool, but it doesnt work on some systems ... and will still be constrained by not having full access to the QuickTime API.
 2) Because of this, publishing QuickTime from windows is going to add some steps to the process ... because there is
such AWEFUL support for quicktime export within editors in Windows,
you'll need to use your editor of choice to save AVIs .. then import
them into QuickTime Pro, then compres, then export, etc...All that being said ... I'm a windows user who has converted to the QuickTime camp...

Authoring QuickTime in Windows can be a pain in the neck, but once you get a working system down you have a few advantages over Windows Media.Advantages to QuickTime (within a windows production environment):
 1) works on the ipod (may or may not be an issue for you, but its currently in fashion :-P) 2) "fast start" is very easy in Quicktime ... the same effect in Windows is very painful ... I think it may even require a windows media server from which to stream the file *uhg*.
 3) Interactivity features are MUCH more robust in quicktime, and far easier to use. (again you may or may not ever chose to use them, but there are very limited interactivity options in WMV while in Quicktime ... well you could code a whole application in your movies :-P)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?

[David Meade]

I just posted it to blip :-Phttp://blip.tv/file/29384(this is that video tag I created, I released it as public domain)First time I realized there is no politics category on blip uploads. Should there be?
On 5/2/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 5/2/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





If hundreds of people literally post a video about this or just a simple video text message and upload them to all these free services excellent viral effect!
Absolutely.  With all the spotlights on online video these days, there are a lot of people watching.
Even if it's a simple text message like Sull says, we've got to send something.  That's one of the powerful things about videoblogging, right?  We all have a voice, scream!(ok, I'm off the soapbox now)



On 5/2/06, 
Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





On 5/2/06, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






You're right Sull, I have been reading a lot about this and some 
other issues as well, and it seems very clearly that Congress does 
not have a clue about this and what it could really mean..we have 
to be vocal about it and we have to do something about it...but 
will it be enough..I plan on vlogging about it tonight.Same here.  I think we might even post it on all the  active sites, like (shudder) youtube, etcget wicked exposure.

People need to know what road this puts us on if it goes through.  The Internet is responsible for connecting so many people, so many communities and something like this tosses that all straight down the toilet.





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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan" 




<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it next week?  Holy crap!  Thats what I get for pretending this 
isnt
> really happening.
> 
> Look, this entire space, the vlogosphere, has failed to make noise 
on this
> issue.  Do you know how many people are linger and lurk here 
outside of
> those who are active here?
> Thousands!  The media!
> 
> If all we have is a week, We need some noise on this.  I propose 
every one
> who has a site.. a blog or a service get a message out.  an 
image, a
> video... anything.  make it Loud and Obvious.  Spread it.  Blog 
about this.
> 
> And do as Dave has suggested.  and use these:
> 320x240 3vix Mov: (107KB)
>   http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.mov
> Larger AVI: (17MB)
>   http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.avi
> 
> 
> sull
> 
> 
> On 5/2/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah this is a pretty big deal.  Some talk of it has taken place 
here on
> > the list. (for a recap check out the summary at loadedpun.com
> > http://loadedpun.com/2006/04/29/dont-let-congress-ruin-the-
internet-take-action.html)
> >
> > Imagine an internet where FireFox never took off because MS could 
pay for
> > better placement/bandwidth ... or arrange for firefox downloads 
to get
> > snubbed into the 1980s bandwidth lane.
> >
> > Imagine an internet where Yahoo! inks a deal to make itunes such 
a pain in
> > the ass for comcast users they would naturally move to another 
online music
> > store ... like yahoo!'s ... which would run remarkably well.
> >
> > Imagine an internet where deep pocketed lobbyist can ensure that 
grass
> > roots movements / citizen journalism cannot have the equal 
playing field on
> > the net that they do now ... this is taking the printing press 
away from The
> > People and giving it to giant corporations.  We need to convince 
congress
> > that The People who elected them can influence their political 
career just
> > as surely as the telecom money / schmoozing they've received.
> >
> > I encourage everyone to take action:
> >   http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet
> >
> > It goes to a vote on the house floor soon (next week I think), 
with an
> > attempt to attach the net neutrality amendment.  After that the 
Senate
> > becomes the front line ... and then perhaps back to the house.
> >
> > It just makes me mad that elected officials can convince 
themselves that
> > this 'control' of the internet could in anyway serve their 
constituents.  Freedom
> > of speech isn't free if it gets more equal the more you pay …
> >
> > Anyway, the website above (
> > http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet ) will let you 
fill out a
> > short form and will email your representatives for you … it's 
painless.
> > - Dave
> >
> >
> > On 5/2/06, Monique Danielle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Got this in my email. Thought I would pass it on:
&

Re: [videoblogging] Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?

[David Meade]

On 5/2/06, robert a/k/a r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's a LOT to communications reform, learn more re what some aredoing here:and here:<
http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/004462.html>--cheersrThat's a great site, thanks.  Interesting idea with the contest and the blog is full of good info.- Dave
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Re: [videoblogging] Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?

[David Meade]

yeah its next week. from SaveTheInternet.com:"The COPE Act is expected to be voted on by the full House in the second
week of May. Congressman Markey is preparing to introduce his amendment
on the floor so that every member is on the record. No member of
Congress can in good conscience vote against Internet freedom and with
the telecom cartel."On 5/2/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



i tossed up the savetheinternet banner on vlogdir.com just now.  i suggest everyone else do the same.  unless someone can tell me and explain to me that i should chill ;-)
this is moving fast wonder why?  make some noise!
thanks,sullOn 5/2/06, Michael Sullivan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it next week?  Holy crap!  Thats what I get for pretending this isnt really happening.Look, this entire space, the vlogosphere, has failed to make noise on this issue.  Do you know how many people are linger and lurk here outside of those who are active here?  
Thousands!  The media! If all we have is a week, We need some noise on this.  I propose every one who has a site.. a blog or a service get a message out.  an image, a video... anything.  make it Loud and Obvious.  Spread it.  Blog about this.  
And do as Dave has suggested.  and use these:
320x240 3vix Mov: (107KB)
  http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.mov
Larger AVI: (17MB)
  http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.avisull


On 5/2/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






Yeah this is a pretty big deal.  Some talk of it has
taken place here on the list. (for a recap check out the summary at
loadedpun.com
http://loadedpun.com/2006/04/29/dont-let-congress-ruin-the-internet-take-action.html

)

Imagine an internet where FireFox never took off because MS could pay for
better placement/bandwidth ... or arrange for firefox downloads to get snubbed
into the 1980s bandwidth lane.

Imagine an internet where Yahoo! inks a deal to make itunes such a pain in the
ass for comcast users they would naturally move to another online music store
... like yahoo!'s ... which would run remarkably well.

Imagine an internet where deep pocketed lobbyist can ensure that grass roots
movements / citizen journalism cannot have the equal playing field on the net
that they do now ... this is taking the printing press away from The People and
giving it to giant corporations.  We need to convince congress that The
People who elected them can influence their political career just as surely as
the telecom money / schmoozing they've received.

I encourage everyone to take action:
  http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet

It goes to a vote on the house floor soon (next week I think), with an attempt
to attach the net neutrality amendment.  After that the Senate becomes the
front line ... and then perhaps back to the house.



It just makes me mad that elected officials can convince
themselves that this 'control' of the internet could in anyway serve their constituents.
 Freedom of speech isn't free if it gets
more equal the more you pay …



Anyway, the website above ( http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet
) will let you fill out a short form and will email your representatives for
you … it's painless.

- DaveOn 5/2/06, Monique Danielle <


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Got this in my email. Thought I would pass it on:Congress is now pushing a law that would end the free and open Internet aswe know it. Internet providers like AT&T and Verizon are lobbying Congresshard to gut Network Neutrality, the Internet's First Amendment and the key
to Internet freedom. Net Neutrality prevents AT&T from choosing whichwebsites open most easily for you based on which site pays AT&T more. SoAmazon doesn't have to outbid Barnes & Noble for the right to work more
properly on your computer.Link and info here:


http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/?id=7450-3388308-vS60A0eCDpvKjrvbv
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Re: [videoblogging] Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?

[David Meade]

Yeah this is a pretty big deal.  Some talk of it has
taken place here on the list. (for a recap check out the summary at
loadedpun.com
http://loadedpun.com/2006/04/29/dont-let-congress-ruin-the-internet-take-action.html
)

Imagine an internet where FireFox never took off because MS could pay for
better placement/bandwidth ... or arrange for firefox downloads to get snubbed
into the 1980s bandwidth lane.

Imagine an internet where Yahoo! inks a deal to make itunes such a pain in the
ass for comcast users they would naturally move to another online music store
... like yahoo!'s ... which would run remarkably well.

Imagine an internet where deep pocketed lobbyist can ensure that grass roots
movements / citizen journalism cannot have the equal playing field on the net
that they do now ... this is taking the printing press away from The People and
giving it to giant corporations.  We need to convince congress that The
People who elected them can influence their political career just as surely as
the telecom money / schmoozing they've received.

I encourage everyone to take action:
  http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet

It goes to a vote on the house floor soon (next week I think), with an attempt
to attach the net neutrality amendment.  After that the Senate becomes the
front line ... and then perhaps back to the house.



It just makes me mad that elected officials can convince
themselves that this 'control' of the internet could in anyway serve their constituents.
 Freedom of speech isn't free if it gets
more equal the more you pay …



Anyway, the website above ( http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet
) will let you fill out a short form and will email your representatives for
you … it's painless.

- DaveOn 5/2/06, Monique Danielle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Got this in my email. Thought I would pass it on:Congress is now pushing a law that would end the free and open Internet aswe know it. Internet providers like AT&T and Verizon are lobbying Congresshard to gut Network Neutrality, the Internet's First Amendment and the key
to Internet freedom. Net Neutrality prevents AT&T from choosing whichwebsites open most easily for you based on which site pays AT&T more. SoAmazon doesn't have to outbid Barnes & Noble for the right to work more
properly on your computer.Link and info here:http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/?id=7450-3388308-vS60A0eCDpvKjrvbv
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Re: [videoblogging] Traffic incentive to use VlogMap today

[David Meade]

Quick question ... when I go to my feeds page:  http://community.vlogmap.org/vlog/28There is a feed icon which points to a feed ... what feed is that?  It's not mine.  Is is supposed to be?
Also, from my user page: http://community.vlogmap.org/user/28if you click "View geovlog listings" it again gives a feed which has nothing to do with me ... are these supposed to be MY geovlogged items? 
I love the look of the new site, and I like being able to claim the feed.  Just confused on a few of the feed icons and what they are supposed to be pointing to.Thanks, - Dave
http://www.davidmeade.comOn 5/1/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The launch of VlogMap 2.0 has been mixed...Not many vloggers have contributed content, yet the site is getting
lots of traffic from the top story of Wired.com (and the launchannouncement)... this means that if you add comments, geovlogs andforum posts today, you have a high probability of getting some traffic
to your site.I just thought I'd point this opportunity out since VlogMapdesperately needs a kick-start, and who wouldn't like new visitors?As for the organization and documentation, I'm aware that is
lacking... but there is a new map where you can "geovlog" yourindividual video posts.  Just imagine if you were traveling to anothercountry and wanted to see videos from the towns you were planning to
visit.Please note, the old site did not have user registration so everyonewill need to register for a new account in order to contributecontent.  If you've always wanted to update your existing information,
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Re: [videoblogging] network neutrality and savetheinternet.com

[David Meade]

I made a video tag I plan on using in my videos (should I publish any)

320x240 3vix Mov: (107KB)
  http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.mov
Larger AVI: (17MB)
  http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.avi
(the AVI for some reason isnt as sharp as I'd hoped)

I'm sure others could do better, but feel free to use the above as you please.

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Re: [videoblogging] network neutrality and savetheinternet.com

[David Meade]

Amen, Sull.

The more I think about this the more worked up I get.   
Maybe I'll try to come up with some bumper material for vlogs. The last
thing we need is lobbying on The Internet ... we've got enough of that
in Congress to last us a lifetime.

 ... sigh ...On 4/29/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know.  I hate this issue so much that I cringe and ignore it
hoping that it will just go away.  But this does need extreme
attention.  This is the issue of our time and our space.  Will people just stand for this or will this be the final breaking point?
The Open Media Revolution will need soldiers.  A clear message and symbol should be put out there with EVERY piece of media made.Mainstream media must report on this.  It needs to become a fire.  Sull

 On 4/29/06, David Meade <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I put their info video on my site ... dont know how to do YouTube Flash as an enclosure though.

citizen journalism could be seriously impacted.  Imagine when only
'press' outlets with money/connections have a decent bandwidth. 
This is like taking the printing press away from the people.On 4/23/06, Richard (Show) Hall
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


Andy,I have been following
this, and I don't think most people recognize how profound the results
of this could be. And, of course, the main reason that the large
internet providers want to prioritize the bandwidth is that they are
getting into internet TV/Movie streaming themselves so the entitity
delivering the content and providing it would be the same.
Also, this has a direct impact on video-bloggers since our
rich media content would be the most likely to be delegated to a lower
tear, unless we could pay more to get preferred treatment and most of
us, by definition, don't make money. ... thanks for bringing this up! ... RichardOn 4/22/06, 
Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,Right now I'm blogging from the Yale Law School's Access to Knowledge



conference. I'm at a standing-room-only session on network neutrality, acontentious policy battle currently taking place in Congress. Telecomproviders are lobbying to be able to create a multi-tiered internet, in

which people who pay the most get the best bandwidth and access topartner websites, while those who don't get slow access and blocked frompartner sites. For example, Rogers Cable acknowledged that itprioritizes some content and applications over others; they get more
bandwidth. Lower prioritization, in contrast, goes to file sharing,podcasting and video blogging, making it more expensive for people toaccess content and create it.I've posted notes from the panel session here:
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/network_neutrality_p.html
Meanwhile, on Monday there will be the launch of the Save The Internet
Campaign (http://www.savetheinternet.com/) to ensure that telecomproviders provide equitable access to bandwidth and content to all
people and not penalize low-income customers. They're also launching a
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Re: [videoblogging] network neutrality and savetheinternet.com

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I put their info video on my site ... dont know how to do YouTube Flash as an enclosure though.

citizen journalism could be seriously impacted.  Imagine when only
'press' outlets with money/connections have a decent bandwidth. 
This is like taking the printing press away from the people.On 4/23/06, Richard (Show) Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andy,I have been following
this, and I don't think most people recognize how profound the results
of this could be. And, of course, the main reason that the large
internet providers want to prioritize the bandwidth is that they are
getting into internet TV/Movie streaming themselves so the entitity
delivering the content and providing it would be the same.
Also, this has a direct impact on video-bloggers since our
rich media content would be the most likely to be delegated to a lower
tear, unless we could pay more to get preferred treatment and most of
us, by definition, don't make money. ... thanks for bringing this up! ... RichardOn 4/22/06, 
Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,Right now I'm blogging from the Yale Law School's Access to Knowledge

conference. I'm at a standing-room-only session on network neutrality, acontentious policy battle currently taking place in Congress. Telecomproviders are lobbying to be able to create a multi-tiered internet, in

which people who pay the most get the best bandwidth and access topartner websites, while those who don't get slow access and blocked frompartner sites. For example, Rogers Cable acknowledged that itprioritizes some content and applications over others; they get more
bandwidth. Lower prioritization, in contrast, goes to file sharing,podcasting and video blogging, making it more expensive for people toaccess content and create it.I've posted notes from the panel session here:
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/network_neutrality_p.html
Meanwhile, on Monday there will be the launch of the Save The Internet
Campaign (http://www.savetheinternet.com/) to ensure that telecomproviders provide equitable access to bandwidth and content to all
people and not penalize low-income customers. They're also launching a
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ze Frank's vlog

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Does he have a feed w/ enclosures?  I cant find one, but would subscribe in heartbeat =DOn 4/27/06, Jeff Marquis <
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Question #2 - Help with Feed/Video/Aggregators

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Try re-syncing the feed.  Go to to the "Troubleshootize" tab and click the PodMedic button on the left. It should rescan your feed for enclosures.  And it well tell you where it found enclosures.  For example for each post it will give you something like:
Content Item: "Travel"
	
	
	
	
	
		
	
		
		
		Yay! Media enclosure created for: travel.mp3 
On 4/26/06, littleblueriver7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SmartCast is on, has been on since I began the feed.What now?--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>> The problem appears to be that there are no enclosures in your feed.>> Make sure you have the SmartCast feature activated in Feedburner.>> On 4/26/06, littleblueriver7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Can you imbed wmv files?> > I'm using WMM so...> >> > Any and all suggestions are appreciated!> > Thanks,> > Mary Beth> > 
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Re: [videoblogging] Question #2 - Help with Feed/Video/Aggregators

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She's got a link... there just arent any enclosures in it. :-POn 4/26/06, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't see a link for an RSS 2.0 feed on your site. Looks like you need to do Step 6 of Freevlog - http://freevlog.org/tutorial/#step6
-Verdi
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The problem appears to be that there are no enclosures in your feed.  Make sure you have the SmartCast feature activated in Feedburner.
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Not really sure what my question is here.I've been communicating with some vloggers and we haven't been able tofigure this out.In FireAnt (and I don't think this is their problem) my posts all showup as text (even if they're video). Is there something I need to
change in my feed, blogger, video, or ant for the video to be recognized?My video is not embeded, is that the issue?Can you imbed wmv files?I'm using WMM so...Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
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[videoblogging] New video embed script

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Hi all.  I recently went back to the drawing board on a script I'd been working on ... I offer it here in case it fits the bill for what someone out there is looking for.The major advantage to this script is that you dont have to do ANYTHING to your post to make it work.  You dont have to have an onclick, you dont have to use rel=enclosure, you dont have to copy/paste code, you dont have to use specially crafted DIVs or anything  you just link to your video file.  Thats it.  
The script will build out players for you.  It's now working in IE as well as Firefox (probably others but I havent tested them) ... in any browser where it doesnt work, the file will load as if it were a normal link.
More info (and a few examples) available here: http://www.davidmeade.com/resources/media_test.php

Features:Major feature: You dont have to do ANYTHING special.  Just link to media file in your post.It (so far) supports, QuickTime, Windows Media, AVI, MP3s, WAVs, (and m3u)It will (optionally) size the media player based on the size of the still image used to represent it.
You may choose if the player auto-starts or not.You may choose if the player(s) are created automatically (on page load) or only after the user clicks the link/image.If you choose, it will only adjust links with 'rel=enclosure'.  But by default it will check all links (recommended)
There are a few variables you can set at the beginning of the script if you choose to do so to customize its effect:autoStart = true;If you want your viewers to have to
click the play button even after they clicked the media link/image set
autoStart =false, otherwise set to true and let the movies autostart.buildPlayers = "onClick";
This lets you choose when the script should build out the players. You
can set this variable to "onClick" or "onLoad". buildPlayers =
"onClick" will build out a player when the user clicks a link/image to
the media file. buildPlayers = "onLoad" will build out a player for
each media link on the page as the page loads. (Note you should set
autoStart = false if you use this option)requireRelEnclosure = false;
If you set requireRelEnclosure = true then only media links with
rel=enclosure will have an inline player. (Otherwise all media links
will have an inline player)useImageSize = true;
To size the player based on the size of the still image set
useImageSize = true. Or, to always set players to a specific size set
it to false.
videoHeight = 240;
videoWidth = 320;
If useImageSize = flase, you can set the default size for your players manually with videoHeight, and videoWidth

debug = false;
If you set debug = true then some _javascript_ alerts walk through the
script. (this can be annoying, use only for troubleshooting)

I'm still working on ways to tweak/improve it and have some ideas for a version 2 ... but in case someone has been needing such a thing ... there it is.- Dave-- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Question #2 - Help with Feed/Video/Aggregators

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The problem appears to be that there are no enclosures in your feed.  Make sure you have the SmartCast feature activated in Feedburner.On 4/26/06, 
littleblueriver7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not really sure what my question is here.I've been communicating with some vloggers and we haven't been able tofigure this out.In FireAnt (and I don't think this is their problem) my posts all showup as text (even if they're video). Is there something I need to
change in my feed, blogger, video, or ant for the video to be recognized?My video is not embeded, is that the issue?Can you imbed wmv files?I'm using WMM so...Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
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Re: [videoblogging] Blogger post failed (fwd)

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I'm getting the error too ... very odd ... and annoying.On 4/24/06, Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just got this error message after posting my last message to the list.Does this error mean that there's a blogspot blog out there archiving
all list messages? If so, what's the URL and RSS feed?thanks,andy Original Message Subject: Blogger post failedDate: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:07:25 -0700 (PDT)From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogger could not process your message at this time.Error code: 6.8901AEOriginal message:From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:05:12 -Subject: [videoblogging] Re: The Last Hours - Death of a VideobloggerKevin KrutzJust for kicks, I posted the video to digg to see how people would
react. Kinda quiet so far - around a dozen diggs. Will be interestingto see what happens if it picks up.http://digg.com/technology/The_Death_of_a_Video_Blogger_
Meanwhile, given the fact that you're very uncomfortable with theconstant violence on commercial tv, how do you react to Kevin's videosthat show such violence towards women? (The eye-gouging piece and the
Cronenbergesque surgeon episode come to mind.) Are these expressionsof violence inherently better because they're independent andnoncommercial, or somehow more authentic expressions of art?andy
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[videoblogging] wierd error when I post to group

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I'm getting an email bounce message from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" when I try to post to this group ... although, I *THINK* the posts are getting through.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Last Hours - Death of a Videoblogger Kevin Krutz

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I understand what you mean Jen ... Part of me finds the reaction we all had/have fascinating too.  The full range of the social impact of vlogging is still kinda new after all.However, like Chuck, another part of me is irritated by the whole thing (and the more I think about it the more so I become).  I guess my feeling is that if this was meant to be a part of some artistic experiment in video/vlogging ... a simple frame at the end stating "This was Fiction: Kevin is alive and well." wouldn't have limited his ability to explore this fiction.  
If it was however an experiment on how such a video would effect me the viewer ... that doesn't seem fair ... I didn't sign up to be in any experiment today (and the content was not pleasant).For the sake of discussion ... I'm not a regular viewer of the site and in my cursory review of other works I didn't see any fiction (characters/plots), and experiments seemed clearly labeled as such ... so I left the site feeling all the things we can expect people feel when they believe they've just re-lived a very real and tragic moment with someone when they found their friend dead.  It wasn't a feel good moment.
I'm not willing to say it crossed any line of acceptable/not-acceptable but it definitely was ... harsh.  I for one would have definitely (if even at the end) put up a "No Kevins were actually hurt in the making of this fictional episode" notice.  It seems only a simple kindness to the viewer to do so.  I don't see how relieving the very upsetting emotions this sort of scene inspires would have diminished the work, or its ability to inspire those emotions in the first place.
I don't know if it was meant as a mean spirited hoax or just simple case of a class project distributed to an audience that wouldn't recognize it as such ... assuming it was the latter, I think this is a good example of "You never know who is watching".  It's easy to forget that our work can potentially reach people who might not be 'in the know' as to how the site works and the style of the producer.  I know I usually operate on the assumption the same group of people are going to be watching tomorrow as there was yesterday; but still I try to limit any 'inside jokes' for just this reason.
If it WAS meant as a trick on the viewer, then yeah I think it probably was "too much" ... not because it was lie, but because it was a lie designed (seemingly only) to wound the viewer.  Films and movies may wound their viewers, but they do it in a larger context of entertainment or education.  Fake scenes of such disturbing content without that larger context ... seems just mean. :-P  
In any event, I'm very glad Kevin is ok ... tell him to avoid parties and toilets. ;-)On 4/24/06, Jen Simmons <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Well for one I have to disagree that this is "worse" than the insidious
creeping take-over of the vlogosphere imagination by corporate orcorporate-copy-cat consumption-oriented / advertisy /product-placementy / slick-is-better /we-all-want-to-be-like-the-media-on-tv trends. I find that WAY more
dangerous and problematic.I am wondering myself why I find this fascinating. I am surprised by myown reaction. Perhaps it's because I know Kevin and there's somethingnot-typical about his approach to all the violent weird stupid
perverted content that I am way way tired of after teaching studentfilmmaking in Philadelphia for the last three years. He is handling thesame subjects, but somehow there is something else going on too --perhaps it's just that he's smart and it shows to me, while most of the
other students make such work in such a mindless knee-jerk"stupid"/blind way.I think my reaction is mostly because of a workshop I've been in withKevin taught by Ralph Lemon where we've been exploring danger and risk
and fear all semester. Doing weird things like setting out to drop 40lb weights on our feet to see how we can't actually drop it on ourfeet, but will naturally jerk the body out of the way it'simpossible, truly impossible to explain this by text, but it's been a
great investigation of the fear we who are artists confront every timewe try to make art. Artists live on the edge of real danger all thetime. Somehow I can't separate this video Kevin made with that process
of exploration, and in the context of that very specific investigation,this is hilarious.But... yeah... I think in any other context I too would be deeplydisturbed and offended.I think it's interesting to me because I'm trying to figure out what
the difference is in my self. And I am also asking in a deep deep way:what is happening here. What social rules are Kevin violating? How willthe reaction unfold? Will there be a huge outcry? Or will this all blow
over fairly quickly? Will people react? Or just take this in as onemore thing...I see your point that it may be numbing us to real pain. I find the 27Law and Order and copycat shows completely irresponsible for exactly
that reason. And find it completely ridiculous and amaz

Re: [videoblogging] Re: BSP: "Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid?" --SF Weekly

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On 4/23/06, chrlshogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Then you are a card bearing "profesional" journalists subject to therights as a journalist are guaranteed under the First Amendment.
While I think a citizen journalist category would be a cool thing ...
you dont have to be a journalist to be assured of your first amendment
rights ... and you certainly dont have to pay any organization for
them.  :-P  It might however make an easier case for the
shield laws.

The frustration of not being afforded the same protections as a 'real'
journalist are frustrating given the fact (as Heath points out) that
there are so few bias free sources of news in the mainstream media
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: How to capture Windows Media Player video screenshot

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I add fake play buttons too :-P

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On 4/19/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:35:45 +0200, mgmoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Problem I see, it looks just like a picture and doesn't give any> indication that if you click it a video will play. Atleast with the
> WMP screen shot, it looks like a movie shot.I add play buttons to any videos for that very same reason. Becausesharing is cool I put the files online just now. Use them if you want:
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: How to capture Windows Media Player video screenshot

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The porblem, mgmoon, is that with windows/windows media player (at least on many if not most) systems is that once you take the screen capture you cant really use it.  The captured cannot be placed in a window which is at a different pixel location from the origional.  The pasted image never moves from the pixel location it was in when you hit the printscreen button ... even if your editor window is elsewhere.
You can paste it into an editor like photoshop or gimp, but you dont
see the image.  you can drag the editor window around the screen and
see parts of the origional image apear in certain locations.Makes it really difficult at best to use.On 4/19/06, mgmoon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Acouple of tidbits that may help...Firstly, pause your video before taking the screen shot. If you try
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player window, no need to crop out your desktop.Hope it helps...Mike--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Johnson" wrote:>> Hi everyone,>> I'm usually use the 'PrtSC' (or 'Print Screen') key to capturescreenshots,> but for whatever reason, I've been unable to paste a properscreenshot of my
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yeah this is thanks to how windows media player works ... something about it displaying directly to the hardware ... I dunnoThe bottom line (I think) is that WMP isn't gonna cut it.  The most reliable way I've found is to open the video in Windows Movie Maker and useing the lil button to take a screenshot of the movie.
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I'm usually use the 'PrtSC' (or 'Print Screen') key to capture screenshots, but for whatever reason, I've been unable to paste a proper screenshot of my video (as its playing in Windows Media Player) into GIMP.  It's the oddest thing; the captured image changes while its in GIMP.  Perhaps this is a behavior of GIMP, or of Windows' screen  capturing technology, I don't know; I only know it's not working for my purposes.

 
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? spammer ? lolI dont understand that one.  It just seems to make sense to include meta data in the item element the same way we have an enclosure tag ...  we all expect there to be an enclosure tag rather than saying readers should parse the body for rel=enclosure ... how is this different.
It cannot be guaranteed that a post will syndicate the full text of the item ... if truely syndicate tag information with a post you'd need to have the tag information as a seperate element with in the item element ... wouldnt you?
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well I guess because then its dependant on the feed to include the entire post body.  Not all feeds do that and in some cases you wouldnt want them to.  Wouldnt there be a few good use cases where you might want a headline feed (without full post body) but still have the tagging data with the item?  For this, you'd need a tag element in rss
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All you need from the Human-Computer Interface is some way of "following" links. I guess my question here is (and I ask only because you've got me thinking =P) ...
HTML is a mark up language.  It comes with rules (or at least universal assumptions) as to how that markup language should be rendered.  Thus it choses your engine for you. (an HTML complaint browser).XML is just a data set.  you can open it in notepad.  Usually you open it with an application that has no user interface to the xml at all, but rather parses that data and then outputs a format with links which can be followed ... based on the data with in the xml elements.
I dont think there is anything in XLM that makes a link able to be followed.  And XML isn't meant at all to provide that is it?  Its meant to be comsumed and if appropriate output in a mannor that humans can use.  There isn't a set way to show links and make them interactive unless that data is first transformed either by XLST or some application parsing.
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You wouldnt need the link portion at all I guess ... certainly the cloud services themselves woulodnt need it.I just figured it would be easier for a post to spell out what coulds its a part of than for every reader out there to revamp/recode and try to maintain/built-out links to all the possible clouds out there that exist now or will exist in coming hours. :-P
I guess my thinking was cloud services and directories would only need the tag name, but the extension could allow for the post to state the clouds it (knowningly) is a part of ... so that when displaying that that post it would be easy for very simple scripts to publish those links with the post rather than try to decide if they will post no links or try to come up with all possible clouds etc...
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Why would you need multiple tag URIs with the same tagname but for different tag services. In theory, you would only need one tagname and any consuming service should pick it up.FYI, relTag support is something on our roadmap as well and should be implemented in the FireAnt directory in the not too distant future... eventually, I would expect many sites and services that consume RSS and also have tagging to support relTag.
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perhaps but doesnt HREF actuall mean "hypertext reference" ... this wouldnt be a html doc, and would have to point to one (maybe it points to anohter xml doc)URL seems to be a pretty strandard attribute in RSS ... I could see using IRI ...
eh, we'll burn that bridge if the extension is ever actuall designed. :-P
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Hello,On 4/18/06, David Meade <


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Yeah they arent really the same thing.  All the ways they are different hit you when you try to code around them.  I've treated them mostly the same on my site, but have found myself very limited at times because of it.  I've often wished I'd written my system differently so that it made clear what was a category and what was a tag ... but back when I was learning the difference I relied on Technorati to show me the way ... which may not have been the best idea. :-P
I like Devlon's description:  Posts belong to categories.  Tags belong to posts.Not to get too far off topic here but the more I think about a tag extension to rss the more I love the idea.  It could even have optional links to various clouds.  Something like:
      



http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/">MeFeedia
    http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006">Technorati
    
http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?">FireAnt    ... etc etc ...  


I know I'm nitpicking (yet again), but... if you want to go down that path... I'd suggest calling that attribute "href" instead of "url".  Here's some reasons for that:
We keep on changing the name we call these things.  First they were URL's.  Then they were URI's.  And now they're IRI's.  (There might even be a new name now.)  So picking a name like that will, at best, make it seem dated, and at worst, confuse people.
"href" has much much more common usage."href" is used by HTML (so this will seem familiar to people who know HTML).
"href" is used by Atom (so this will seem familiar to people who know Atom).
See ya 


I imagine a script could be written pretty easily for use in most/any/all blog systems to parse out rel=tag and add the rss info.
Anyway ... great update to mefeedia! :-)- Dave

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> Just out of curiosity, why is it philosophically the wrong approach to use> the RSS category element?Because a category is not the same as a tag.. Tags are useddescriptively, categories are often things like "Announcements",
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Hmmm... I've always considered them to be exactly the same thing.  They're just labels you are labelling things with.
I think the scope is different.  Tags are granular, portions of a post can be tagged...categories are like  'containers'.  Posts belong to a categorytags belong to a post.
That's just my read on it though. 





I didn't think it mattered whether you call them "tags" or "categories" or "keywords".  They all really seem the same.  (It's up to you in what kind of "meaning" you put behind them.)
The only difference I've seen with this type of stuff i

Re: [videoblogging] Reltag support

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perhaps but doesnt HREF actuall mean "hypertext reference" ... this wouldnt be a html doc, and would have to point to one (maybe it points to anohter xml doc)URL seems to be a pretty strandard attribute in RSS ... I could see using IRI ...
eh, we'll burn that bridge if the extension is ever actuall designed. :-POn 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <
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Hello,On 4/18/06, David Meade <
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Yeah they arent really the same thing.  All the ways they are different hit you when you try to code around them.  I've treated them mostly the same on my site, but have found myself very limited at times because of it.  I've often wished I'd written my system differently so that it made clear what was a category and what was a tag ... but back when I was learning the difference I relied on Technorati to show me the way ... which may not have been the best idea. :-P
I like Devlon's description:  Posts belong to categories.  Tags belong to posts.Not to get too far off topic here but the more I think about a tag extension to rss the more I love the idea.  It could even have optional links to various clouds.  Something like:
      

http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/">MeFeedia
    http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006">Technorati
    
http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?">FireAnt    ... etc etc ...  
I know I'm nitpicking (yet again), but... if you want to go down that path... I'd suggest calling that attribute "href" instead of "url".  Here's some reasons for that:
We keep on changing the name we call these things.  First they were URL's.  Then they were URI's.  And now they're IRI's.  (There might even be a new name now.)  So picking a name like that will, at best, make it seem dated, and at worst, confuse people.
"href" has much much more common usage."href" is used by HTML (so this will seem familiar to people who know HTML)."href" is used by Atom (so this will seem familiar to people who know Atom).
See ya 
I imagine a script could be written pretty easily for use in most/any/all blog systems to parse out rel=tag and add the rss info.
Anyway ... great update to mefeedia! :-)- DaveOn 4/18/06, 
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> Just out of curiosity, why is it philosophically the wrong approach to use> the RSS category element?Because a category is not the same as a tag.. Tags are useddescriptively, categories are often things like "Announcements",
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Hmmm... I've always considered them to be exactly the same thing.  They're just labels you are labelling things with.
I think the scope is different.  Tags are granular, portions of a post can be tagged...categories are like  'containers'.  Posts belong to a categorytags belong to a post.
That's just my read on it though. 



I didn't think it mattered whether you call them "tags" or "categories" or "keywords".  They all really seem the same.  (It's up to you in what kind of "meaning" you put behind them.)
The only difference I've seen with this type of stuff is whether the "creator" or the "users" tagged this stuff.  (But, what we're talking about here is "creator" tagged stuff.)




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Yeah they arent really the same thing.  All the ways they are different hit you when you try to code around them.  I've treated them mostly the same on my site, but have found myself very limited at times because of it.  I've often wished I'd written my system differently so that it made clear what was a category and what was a tag ... but back when I was learning the difference I relied on Technorati to show me the way ... which may not have been the best idea. :-P
I like Devlon's description:  Posts belong to categories.  Tags belong to posts.Not to get too far off topic here but the more I think about a tag extension to rss the more I love the idea.  It could even have optional links to various clouds.  Something like:
      http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/">MeFeedia
    http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006">Technorati    
http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?">FireAnt    ... etc etc ...  I imagine a script could be written pretty easily for use in most/any/all blog systems to parse out rel=tag and add the rss info.
Anyway ... great update to mefeedia! :-)- DaveOn 4/18/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Hello Peter,On 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck <

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> Just out of curiosity, why is it philosophically the wrong approach to use> the RSS category element?Because a category is not the same as a tag.. Tags are useddescriptively, categories are often things like "Announcements",
things that aren't really tags. I am quite wary about using tags inthe wrong way... But there is no right answer, of course.Peter

Hmmm... I've always considered them to be exactly the same thing.  They're just labels you are labelling things with.
I think the scope is different.  Tags are granular, portions of a post can be tagged...categories are like  'containers'.  Posts belong to a categorytags belong to a post.
That's just my read on it though. 

I didn't think it mattered whether you call them "tags" or "categories" or "keywords".  They all really seem the same.  (It's up to you in what kind of "meaning" you put behind them.)
The only difference I've seen with this type of stuff is whether the "creator" or the "users" tagged this stuff.  (But, what we're talking about here is "creator" tagged stuff.)


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ah ok.  I may rework how I do most of my tags one day although not today for the same reason #2 you gave. :-)  I only did it that way because for a while Technorati really strongly pushed that method.  It's still listed as their #1 way to tag items, although they seem to have moved more fully into the rel=tag camp.
what we really need is a tag extension for rss (seperate from category) :-POn 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck <
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1) I think it's philosophically the wrong approach, and2) It's another day of coding and I don't have time right now, gottafinish some consulting work :)Not to say we won't, if I find some time I might implement that.
Cheers!PeterOn 4/18/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>  Thats awesome.  Will it also tag posts with the item's  elements
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>  Hi all,> From today, Mefeedia supports the rel=tag standard.>> This means that you can put tags in your blogpost, and your video will> be tagged automatically at Mefeedia. No more having to come to
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Thats awesome.  Will it also tag posts with the item's  elements in the feed?  I typically rely on these for technorati tagging.On 4/18/06, 
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Hi all,From today, Mefeedia supports the rel=tag standard.This means that you can put tags in your blogpost, and your video willbe tagged automatically at Mefeedia. No more having to come toMefeedia just to tag all your videos.
To add tags, just add something like the following to your blogpost:http://mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/
">videobloggingweek2006As with the other sites that support this standard, the link can go toany website, like Technorati, Wikipedia or Mefeedia, as long as thelast part of the link is the same as the tag.
We also used our Powers (tm) to run the script back in time, to thebeginning of 2006, so if you were already using tags in yourblogposts, all your videos have been tagged since January 2006. So allyour videoblogging2006 tags are in Mefeedia now, whether you tagged
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Embed vs. Pop-Up

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Generally requested "pop-ups" are allowed with anything not just Firefox.  its only the pop-ups that happen without the user clicking a link that are blocked.  If your browser isn't opening a link you click, you have pretty big issues.
It's possible however if the pop-up page is done with JS (as many are) and you've got some application that prevents any page from opening via JS (even if you request it) that it could be an issue.  Typically however, if you click a link, it will open the page it points to (even if someone has called that page 'popup").
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: why you now have an error on all your pages

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On 4/16/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I wanted a "you go to my site andclick play to play" interface. Microsoft has completely killed that asan option. Completely. I'm
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Re: [videoblogging] the activex/eolas patent bug in Explorer

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I think it may still be an optional download (though not for long).

To get it, use IE and select tools->Windows Update ... chose the
custom option, and select the optional software updates (these dont get
downloaded unless selected)On 4/16/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



huh, I see no problem.  I expected the windows update I just received to have the 'fix' for IE in it?
On 4/16/06, David Meade <
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any of the archive pages.  for example:

http://mortaine.blogspot.com/2005_07_13_mortaine_archive.html


On 4/16/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/16/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









well maybe I'm not understanding the use of
"poster frame" here ... but my site uses custom image place holders and
a seperate _javascript_ file and I'm ok.
 
I'm now able to see the error on Stephanie's page(http://mortaine.blogspot.com/), but it doesnt happen on my site (
http://www.davidmeade.com
)Can
you provide a link to the exact page you get an error on from her
site?  I can't seem  to see the error and I've tried a couple
of places.I'd like to see the impact of this change on my vlog,
but I can't see the error even though I accepted the other dayso I
need to make sure I have the update
...cause from where I am sitting, nothing is broken :)



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On 4/16/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> well pop-ups that pop-up because the user clicked a link wont be blocked, so we're ok there.
Thanks, David. I hope this is the case. I've helped a fair number ofpeople in a support environment where they don't get a pop-up they'reexpecting, but that's usually because the link is actually taking them
to another page that's expected to automatically spawn a pop-up, whichis then blocked by the default settings on their browser.I just think that overall, there's a suspicion or disdain of pop-upsin general, so I was wondering why they're so popular among vloggers.
But actually, this is probably a separate question from the MSIEActive X thing.> I'd imagine the _javascript_ thing can use custom poster frames no problem.The sample codes that Apple and Microsoft present seem to be
customizable to the point where you can pass in additional variablesto be incorporated into the page... but sadly, I'm pretty codeilliterate.  If anyone develops a variant that supports poster frames,do share!
I just have a fear that poster frames can't actually be supported,because the expected behavior is for them to display in the pageautomatically as placeholders... and the issue with this MSIE thing is



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: why you now have an error on all your pages

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I have a lightweight JS function I use, and fast start works just fine.

The user has to click the poster frame to start the video, but at that
point the embed is created and fast start .. starts ... no need to wait
for download.

http://www.davidmeade.comOn 4/16/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:This method that Enric has created will not work for me because it
requires the user to click on a posterframe in order to start thevideo. This will not work for a fast start option, as far as I know.Also, the vpip script is apparently around 600 lines of code which isan overkill for launching a video.
On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:12 PM, David Howell wrote:> An easy way to be "clear" is to say what you mean and mean what you> say.>> By stating "I'm pretty sure you are not clear" could indicate that I
> am not clear on what is being said. Stating "I dont think your site is> clear" means a whole other thing. Stating "I went to your site and it> is not clear from the IE error" is yet another statement.
>> Words words words...they do mean so many things.>> David> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com>> --- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you misinterpreted my voice then. While you were being sharp>> and discounting my question as worthwhile, I simply said:
> David, I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure you are not>>> clear. I had a look at your site and you use the embed code>>> inside an>>> object. Thus when people begin to update their IE explorer browsers
>>> with the latest patches, etc. they will likely encounter an active-x>>> button in need of confirmation. When I said "clear", I meant "in the clear", maybe that was the
>> confusion. Anyway, I am considering not updating our code. Especially if this is>> just to suit an older model of IE. Its getting to the point where I may start signaling out Internet
>> Explorer users and sending them to the Rocketboom Mars website to>> discuss why there are there.>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 12:51 PM, David Howell wrote:>>
>>> Youre correct and I apologize for my curtness. I guess I was put off>>> by Andrew shooting off that my site might be broken and that I didnt>>> know what I was talking about without him even making an attempt to
>>> check to see if what he was saying was true or not.>> Again, my apologies.>> David>>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" >>> wrote: The thing is that this group was set up to help people. I've always
 had the attitude that no matter how often a particular issue comes up on the list I always will answer it if I have the answer. Sometimes the solutions to the issue changes, and sometimes the person
 asking is new and hasn't searched the archives (and if you've ever had the experience of trying to search the group archives you know it's not a
 good way of finding an answer--especially if you don't know exactly what terms you might be looking for). So in the spirit of making the group a welcoming resource for new videobloggers I would tend
 not to dismiss people for asking a question or bringing up an issue that's been addressed before. It's something that happens frequently on this
 list but it should not be discouraged IMO. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell"  wrote:>
> I'll see your sarcasm and raise you a "tough shit".>> It's assumed that if one joins this list, then one reads the posts> here. If you arent reading the posts, then why join the group?
>> Besides, not taking the measures to properly present your work to> your> viewers *is* the responsibility of the owner of the site. Not
> anyone> elses. Once I knew that the active-x changes were coming from MS,> both> being announced on this list AND a multitude of other sites
> reporting> it, I took measures to fix the problem.>> There is a warning on the "Home" section of this group about the
> number of emails this list can produce AND offers a solution. Dont> come crying when you cant keep up.>> David> 
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Ozawa" 
> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE->> Hash: SHA1 On 4/15/06, David Howell  wrote:
>>> Like I said, this was all brought up a while ago on this>>> list. If>>> people didnt take the time to resolve their issues then...ah
>>> well.>>> C'est la vie. Darn right. Shame on anyone who slacked off and dared not process> each of
>> the hundreds of messages that flow through here each week!  If> you've got>> any questions, need help or advice, tough cookies.  You've had
>> your> chance.>>>

Re: [videoblogging] the activex/eolas patent bug in Explorer

[David Meade]

any of the archive pages.  for example:

http://mortaine.blogspot.com/2005_07_13_mortaine_archive.html
On 4/16/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 4/16/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





well maybe I'm not understanding the use of
"poster frame" here ... but my site uses custom image place holders and
a seperate _javascript_ file and I'm ok.
 
I'm now able to see the error on Stephanie's page(http://mortaine.blogspot.com/), but it doesnt happen on my site (
http://www.davidmeade.com
)Can
you provide a link to the exact page you get an error on from her
site?  I can't seem  to see the error and I've tried a couple
of places.I'd like to see the impact of this change on my vlog,
but I can't see the error even though I accepted the other dayso I
need to make sure I have the update
...cause from where I am sitting, nothing is broken :)

On 4/16/06, Ryan Ozawa <

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On 4/16/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> well pop-ups that pop-up because the user clicked a link wont be blocked, so we're ok there.
Thanks, David. I hope this is the case. I've helped a fair number ofpeople in a support environment where they don't get a pop-up they'reexpecting, but that's usually because the link is actually taking them
to another page that's expected to automatically spawn a pop-up, whichis then blocked by the default settings on their browser.I just think that overall, there's a suspicion or disdain of pop-upsin general, so I was wondering why they're so popular among vloggers.
But actually, this is probably a separate question from the MSIEActive X thing.> I'd imagine the _javascript_ thing can use custom poster frames no problem.The sample codes that Apple and Microsoft present seem to be
customizable to the point where you can pass in additional variablesto be incorporated into the page... but sadly, I'm pretty codeilliterate.  If anyone develops a variant that supports poster frames,do share!
I just have a fear that poster frames can't actually be supported,because the expected behavior is for them to display in the pageautomatically as placeholders... and the issue with this MSIE thing is

that it's requiring user action before anything loads.
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Re: [videoblogging] the activex/eolas patent bug in Explorer

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well maybe I'm not understanding the use of "poster frame" here ... but my site uses custom image place holders and a seperate _javascript_ file and I'm ok.
 
I'm now able to see the error on Stephanie's page(http://mortaine.blogspot.com/), but it doesnt happen on my site (http://www.davidmeade.com
) 
On 4/16/06, Ryan Ozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/16/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> well pop-ups that pop-up because the user clicked a link wont be blocked, so we're ok there.
Thanks, David. I hope this is the case. I've helped a fair number ofpeople in a support environment where they don't get a pop-up they'reexpecting, but that's usually because the link is actually taking them
to another page that's expected to automatically spawn a pop-up, whichis then blocked by the default settings on their browser.I just think that overall, there's a suspicion or disdain of pop-upsin general, so I was wondering why they're so popular among vloggers.
But actually, this is probably a separate question from the MSIEActive X thing.> I'd imagine the _javascript_ thing can use custom poster frames no problem.The sample codes that Apple and Microsoft present seem to be
customizable to the point where you can pass in additional variablesto be incorporated into the page... but sadly, I'm pretty codeilliterate.  If anyone develops a variant that supports poster frames,do share!
I just have a fear that poster frames can't actually be supported,because the expected behavior is for them to display in the pageautomatically as placeholders... and the issue with this MSIE thing isthat it's requiring user action before anything loads.
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Re: [videoblogging] the activex/eolas patent bug in Explorer

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well pop-ups that pop-up because the user clicked a link wont be blocked, so we're ok there.

I'd imagine the _javascript_ thing can use custom poster frames no
problem.  I'm not using Enric's but rather one I wrote, and it
works fine with whatever poster frame I want to use.  I've also
played around with Andreas' script and it can use whatever poster frame
you want too.

If I'm understanding it correctly, any poster frame you want can with a
click call a _javascript_ function (From a seperate file) to then draw
out the embed information.  Thats how mine works anyway, and so
far I've not been able to produce the problem on my site.


- Dave
http://www.davidmeade.comOn 4/16/06, Ryan Ozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1All righty then... a quick recap and a couple of my own questions.
This affects MS Internet Explorer users only, Windows only, and apparentlyboth IE6 (April 11 update) and IE7 beta (according to Microsoft) -- thoughnot everyone using IE7 has seen it, and perhaps the jury's still out on IE7
final.Both Apple and Microsoft have posted information pages and sample code(including external _javascript_ files):http://developer.apple.com/internet/ieembedprep.html
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url="">erview/activating_activex.aspStressed is the fact that switching to _javascript_ is only part of the
solution -- the _javascript_ can't be part of the same page that calls it.Therefore, it seems that Josh's Embedthevideo.com (and thus Devlon'splugin) and the pop-up solution offered by FreeVlog don't solve the
problem, per Michael Verdi's testing.But, Enric's vPIP WordPress plugin does seem to do the trick:http://wp-plugins.net/plugin/vPIP/Okay.  Now two questions, one philosophical and one a little more
complicated.First, I'm guessing that some folks are seeing pop-up windows for the videoas part of the solution (although again the _javascript_ can't be in the HTMLthat draws the pop-up).  But with all the mentions of folks who might
browse with _javascript_ disabled... aren't we much more likely to comeacross people who have pop-ups disabled?  Heck, people get pop-ups disabledwithout even asking these days.I can see why embedding video might not be someone's solution of choice
(especially given this latest development), but maybe the popularity ofpop-up windows is a bit iffy, too.  Why not just point to another regularpermalink-able web page?Now for my geeky question:
I'm using MovableType, and not WordPress, for my vlog.  Fortunately, Ithink, I built the embed code into my templates, and used the and  to only hold URLs to the movie file,
and the poster frame.  I can see how it would be relatively straightforwardto (1.) upload the external _javascript_ file, and (2.) adjust the templatecode as shown on the Apple or Microsoft pages, dropping the URL for the
movie file () where specified (sample.mov).But... does anyone know if any of these _javascript_-powered solution handlesseparately made/uploaded poster frames?  If not, could they?  And finally,
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Re: [videoblogging] help with very slow site

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It's slow for me too. (WinXP w/ FireFox)On 4/16/06, Richard Show <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



A month or so ago I spent a really long time changing my site to wordpress.Lots
of time it takes the main page forever to load, and/or, if you click on
"next" or "previous", or if you click on a category, or an archive
month, or whatever, it takes forever ... sometimes, miraculously it
doesn't (even if I've emptied the cache) ... this seems to be a problem
on my mac with firefox and safari and on xp machines with IE and
firefox, so it doesn't seem very browser specific.
... You could help by trying the site and seeing if the same is true for you ... I could also use any help from anyone on theories as to what is causing this ... some contexta)
My host is godaddy, I installed wordpress "manually", in that there is
no one-click solution, and everything, the control panel and stuff seem
to work fine
b) I tried the convert from blogger site thing in wordpress, but
couldn't get it to allow me to apply a different theme, so I just went
ahead a created the whole vlog again (and lost my comments); and
changed the date on posting to the original post date.
b) I used a "connections" theme  ... modified it quite a bit
c) I started experimenting with hosting the videos myself on
godaddy, rather than using blip, and this is true for everything after
approximately the new year (but others hosted on blip)
... I'd check now, but I can't get the archived pages to load at all.d)
I started trying to embed flash video. The code I use is code that is
generated automatically when inserted .flv files in macromedia
dreamweaver 8. The flash movie file is one that I download that was
transcoded in blip. This is also only true for movies after the new
year, and this is one of my prime suspects for why it is so slow, but
the pages that don't have this embedded flash thing also seem to take
forever when clicked on (
e.g., old archive pages) I called godaddy, by the way, and
they said, yep, sure enough it doesn't seem to come up at all, if you
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: why you now have an error on all your pages

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well my embeds are written by a _javascript_ onclick event ... perhaps thats enough to avoid the problem?

I tried loading it up in a patched up version of IE7 and so far I havent gotten an alert.On 4/15/06, andrew michael baron <
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Hmmm, curious, the scripts you are pointing to seem to me to be HTML
embeds which means that they would not work. Or rather, that people who
begin to update their IE browsers to the latest updates, may require a
message to confirm Active-X. Please correct me if I am wrong, I am
just going by what I read on the Apple page for embedding QT videos.The only way to accommodate this new fix, er, bug, is to display your QT videos with _javascript_, not HTML.
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Re: [videoblogging] why you now have an error on all your pages

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I though this was a security issue?  It's a royalty thing!?  I didnt think the quicktime plugin was an active-x control ... does this impact quicktime embeds? ... uhg Im so confused.I've not noticed any pop-ups on my site yet.
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Re: [videoblogging] another FAQ from a newbie

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Well I'll make the disclaimer up front:  It depends on your budget  but ...

If you want to go with a real video camera (instead of a digital still
camera that also takes videos), you'll get better quality video (and
likely sound).

If you can afford a 3CCD camera, they are usually somewhat better in
low light, but even 1ccd cameras are leaps and bounds over digital
stills.

Try and find a model that you can easily plug a mic into if you so choose.
In my opinion, you should try and pick a model that doesnt require a
base station to connect to your computer but rather has a Firewire port
on the camera itself. (although if your model saves to an SD card this
may not really even be an issue)
If your looking at a model that uses miniDV tape, take note where the
tape goes in ... some models are designed such that if the camera is
mounted on a tripod you cant get to the tape door anymore.
A recent thread showed that a number of people in this group are happy
with the Panasonic PV-GS150.  I have that one and have been quite
happy with it ...

Also consider how often you'll be taking it out and about with you and
how you'll shoot things, some interesting form factors out there now.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Newbie with a question...

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Yeah what Gena said.  The windows Media PLYER never gives me a
reliable screenshot of the movie ... however Movie MAKER can do
it.  I have windows Movie Maker version 2.1 and it will save a JPG
image of the movie directly.  I just hit the "Take Picture" button
and it asks me where I want to save it.

I'm not sure about Avid and its support for MJPEG coded AVI files ... I've never used that application.

Good Luck!!

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You have a number of options:1. Inside of Windows Movie Maker 2 there is a capture image button onthe right side of the monitor area. The image is held in theclipboard area. Any photo or drawing program should be able to snag
it for you. A freebie to check out is the beloved Irfanviewhttp://www.irfanview.comthat rascal can open just about anything and save it in the formatthat you need.
2. I have found that using QuickTime 6.5 I can drag an image onto thedesktop and it will save it as a .bmp file. Again any image programworth its salt will be able to convert it to a .jpg for the internet.
I'm sure that 7.0+ can do this too but I think they change the wayyou create screen shots. I use another work around which is:3. Gadwin Print Screen - another cool freebie located at
http://www.gadwin.com it will let you copy the movie image with theQT player or you can select just the area you want to capture.Note - for technical reasons I don't understand this will not workwith Windows Media Player. I just get the player with no movie image.
What I wind up doing, or use to do, is just make a screen shot of theplayer and the paste the image into via Photoshop.Vlog On,Genahttp://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Newbie with a question...

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Actually I'm pretty sure that camera saves files in an MJPEG format.  They'd be AVI files, however not all software comes with MJPEG codecs.  Sony Vegas for example does not.Movie Maker does however ... hmmm
Are trying to actually "open" the file, or are you importing the files into your collections?  In Movie maker you need to start a new project (rather than open the video you recorded) and then import the video you recorded into your collections bin.
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> together tutorial,> but can't get past the point where you compress the video clip, this is> because I have made> my videos on my digital camera (powershot sd100) in movie mode, and I> can upload them
> to the computer just fine, it's just that when I try to open them in> windows movie maker or> avid free dv, it can't find the file.  I am guessing that this is> because it does not have the
> correct file extension or something, it shows nothing in the folder, and> I can't figure what> the file extensions of my video's are.  Can anyone help meHey Brandi,Your camera most likely records video in Quicktime format. Before you can
open these files in Movie Maker you will need to convert them to a formatMovie Maker can open (AVI or WMV).I have found that the open source program MP4Cam2AVI works best - mostlybecause it is a) free and b) fast. :o)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a "good" camera

[David Meade]

I also have the PV-GS150, and really like it.  It's got a mic port and a mount for accessories.As Blips says the mic that comes with it has a fairly short cord, but you can plug any mic in you want.
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Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

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On 4/10/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't agree with Devlon that a video transcode constitutes a derrivativework (IANAL!!!). Just as a xerox of a photo is a "copy" not a derrivativework... It's a bad copy, but still a copy. IMO.
This from the champion of interactive bloggy video? ;) If I have an interactive sprite track and someone transcodes that mov file to a flash file, all that interactivity is gone ... it's a significant change to the media isn't it?
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Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

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"or any other form in which the Work may be recast, transformed, or adapted, " sounds like transcoding to me.to my mind this does require permission.  It changes the nature of the media.  For example if I create an interactive quicktime movie, just  trancoding it to flash will remove the interactive portions of the file ... a significant change to The Work.
I guess this is why I had such issue with Veoh.  The transcoding.  To do that in bulk off of feeds is hardly getting permission.Blip for example does things right.  Not only do they only transcode material that is explicitly uploaded, they even let you (effectively) turn off that feature.



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

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On 4/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I can't right now, but I guess one could find out from the creative commons site what they define a derivation as.
"Derivative Work" means a work based upon the Work or
upon the Work and other pre-existing works, such as a translation,
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version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation,
or any other form in which the Work may be recast, transformed, or
adapted, except that a work that constitutes a Collective Work will not
be considered a Derivative Work for the purpose of this License. For
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Re: [videoblogging] Is it Fair Use to link directly to a vlog's video?

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On 4/10/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The problem is that, from a specification point of view, the licensing in plain old RSS (without any extensions) is NOT meant to be machine readable.  (Note, what I'm talking about here is the RSS  element.)
And a valid RSS reader does NOT have to do anything based on that -- does NOT have to do anything baswd on what's in the contents of the RSS  element.  (And a valid RSS reader also does NOT have to understand or do anything based on any RSS extensions that may make this licensing information machine readable.)
 If you really want to get licensing information or "permissions", "restrictions", and "requirements" tied into there, then you really need to make a new technology... possibly via an RSS extension... that replaces  but ties in the concept of "permissions", "restrictions", and "requirements".
Well there already is a creative commons extension to RSS which I think most people are using. It sounds like what you're talking about is getting all the aggregators to obey ... and that's a whole other thing.  Wether its in the cc extension, or in MediaRSS, or in some new revamp of enclosures ... none of those options are going to force web services to obey them any more than any other ...
There's always going to be custom spiders and what not that ignore that data no mater how its encoded into the feed.  But from the persepctive of this list, we're not aggregator programers, we're content producers ... it's not incombant on us to make media readers that obey license... its only our job to make sure we have the license information in there.
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Re: [videoblogging] Is it Fair Use to link directly to a vlog's video?

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On 4/10/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 
Although asking is always nice  I think it's important, especially on the web, to have automated ways of doing all this.  (Like the way Creative Commons automates things.)  Or else, it's just not scalable for example, how would you possibly be able to respond to 1000's of people asking for permission per day.  (Especially is there is NO profit involved.)
Is there some reason creative commons isn't sufficient?  The cc verbage  says   "you are free to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work" so long as 
distribute/display/perform seems to cover posting a link to the item.My thinking is that my cc license has already granted everyone the right to link to my videos (provided the provide attribution).
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Re: [videoblogging] Is it Fair Use to link directly to a vlog's video?

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Yeah the creative commons license can be inserted into the feed at both the channel and the item level.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/creativeCommons:license>(namespace:
 
http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule)On 4/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:On 4/10/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>  Hello Michael,>>> Although, just to nit-pick :-)  ... It should be class="no_enclosure"> (instead of rel="no_enclosure") if you're putting this on an  or
>  element.  (I won't bore you with the details of "why" unless you ask> to hear it.)Ok, how about rel=don't violate my f'in license? :)>> Semantic HTML has the advantage that this is machine readable.  That way the
> whole process can be automated.  (And not just by your vlogging software,> but by many many other kinds of software too.  Which produces all sorts of> social implications.  Which are hopefully "good".)
You can speciffy your cc license on the feed, which is how this stuffis being distributed...done.  Machine readable and in the source thatis being used to get the data.Maybe Josh Kinberg, or someone else in the RSS know a bit more than
myself can provide the details.  I just know that feedburner does thisfor our feed...yup, one of the same ones that Veoh wasblatantly ignoring.>>> See ya
>>> On 4/10/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>>  hmmm,  maybe we should have a rel=no_enclosure too ;-)>
 On 4/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > On 4/10/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> >> > >> > > hi Charles,> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > one really interesting thing that happened during the whole veoh debacle
> that i hadn't considered and am considering now is that media feeds might> pick up the vids and attribute them to me if they are "hot linked". that's> not good, i think. i am rethinking how i do it now. my concern has always
> been that an extra step to view the video will prevent many readers/viewers> from watching the videos, which would be a shame. there is so much excellent> content out there!> >> >
> >> > I think the main problem is that when media is embedded (please correct me> if I am wrong) it is picked up in the feed as an enclosure...I guess a> thumbnail would be safe.> >
> > Not sure that your plugin does Enric?  Does the media file have an> enclosure tag?> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > On 4/10/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > >> > > > My question is Is it Fair Use to link directly to a vlog's video?
> > > >> > > > (People would probably call this "hot linking".)> > > >> > > > NOTE: I'm NOT talking about re-hosting or transcoding.  This would be
> getting the video straight from the vloggers site.> > > >> > > > And more importantly, if it isn't Fair Use, should it be?  And an> equally important question, if it is Fair Use, should it not be?
> > > >> > > > Also (assuming you think it is OK to "hot link" to videos), what would> be the "best" ways to do it?...> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Is it OK to use the HTML  element to link directly to the video?> (Either llinking in text or a thumbnail or a flipbook of the video?)> > > >
> > > > Is it OK to use the HTML  or  elements to link directly> to the video?  This would essentially be playing video on inside of someone> else's page.> > > > Should the "hotlinker" add any extra data along with the "hotlinking"?
>  (Like the title, description, a linkback, etc)> > > > How does all this relate to (RSS and Atom) feeds?> > > > How does all this relate to semantic HTML usage?> > > > How does all this relate to SMIL usage?
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Re: [videoblogging] Is it Fair Use to link directly to a vlog's video?

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Well I think its important to remember the difference between an individual who is linking in order to 'revlog' somehting he enjoied and a comercial site linking so as to gain traffic / members.But as an individual ... sure I think it's ok so long as you obey the copyright.
When I revlog here's how I do it: With permission, I  I provide a thumbnailed link to the video I plaster information about the origional post/site all over my post, I encourage users to visit the origional source and comment there.
 I disable comments on my post (so as to further encource discussion of this video to happen at the producers site)I have been including them in my feeds.  I guess I considered this as something the origional poster would want.  However usually the origional posters url and stuff is in the actual video itself.
I haven't embeded any 'revlogs' as I felt that discourages the vistors from going to visit the origional content.  But I wouldn't be too upset if someone embeded my video elsewhere (linking to my media permalink) so long as they provided attribution.
Most of us are getting free or next to free hosting ... so if the hot-linking is done in a good faith mannor and attribution is given, I think it's ok.  Of course it never hurts and always a good idea to let the person know you'd like to link to a video of theirs ... they'll often give you the ok.
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Re: [videoblogging] Simple Question

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well I guess I havent taken any action yet because I for one want to give them a chance to fix the problem.As for wha VEOH's done in the past ... there's been a few full appologies, and a promise to make it right.  I'm not sure what more we could possibly ask for.
I'm not going to 'claim' it because I think that's crazy ... my name, email, url, etc are in the feed ... if thats not sufficient, they've bigger problems than they are likely going to be able to fix.   I'll give them some time to work that out and see if they can get me the attribution / link-throughs, etc.  if they cant do that then i'll take action to fix it myself. :-P
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My simple question...There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.Those with "Unclaimed RSS" on VEOH's site, why have you not claimedyour feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
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Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** Simple message

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But Charles they aren't caching.  Caching is keeping a copy of an object to make new requests for it faster. They are hosting derivative works.  The work was downloaded.  Transcoded to a new format.  And that completely new format is HOSTED (not cached) at a new location.
Requests for this new object have nothing to do with requests for the work the content producer has provided via his feed. There is not HTTP header for "don't break my copyright" ... that's implied as a requirement already.  The machine readable license information is included in the feed in most if not all cases, and it's simply being ignored.
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Hello Josh,The HTTP "no-cache" header does NOT just pertain to browser caching.  It's also used by transparent web caches, and other web caching systems.  Caching, on the web, takes place at all sorts of places and on all sorts of levels.  (You're ISP is very very likely doing alot of caching, and serving your cached data even though you don't know it.  And these web caches [are suppose to] pay attention to the HTTP "no-cache" header.)
Also, as I mentioning, I was NOT trying to address all the points you made.  Just one of them.  Just caching.  (I'm not trying to take anything away from any of you other points.  Just trying to contribute to the discussion.)
This issue of the HTTP "no-cache" header seems very relevant since this web caching (particularly with transparent caches) "downloads and redistributes" content.  And, over and over again, this has been held up as being legal in court.  And this applys to some of what people here (including you) are saying that Veoh did wrong.
(And I hope everyone reads this last paragraph, and doesn't just skip/ignore it and just respond to the othe stuff I wrote.)  I'm not trying to say what Veoh has done wasn't wrong.  I'm just thinking out loud.  If this goes to court, Veoh's lawyers are going to say all this.  So why wouldn't we bring up these points amoung ourselves too?!  And consider all this with as much information as we can?!
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Uh, dude, this is so far off the subject.I'm not talking about browser caching.I'm talking about downloading videos from one server to another and then redistributing them as your own. Different subject entirely and not one having to do with HTTP protocol.
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Helo Josh,Just to address one very very specific thing that you said.  (And not trying to address everything you said.)The HTTP protocol has a way of tell things not to cache something.  HTTP has a "no-cache" header for this.
(Again I know people will probably very passionately NOT like what I'm about to say, but I'll say it anyways just to present another point of view in all this) Many people will argue that the way you use the HTTP protocol constitutes a (legal) contract.  That if you do NOT use the "no-cache" HTTP header, that you have given others legal permission to cache it.
Now please note that I do NOT know if any vlogger is using HTTP "no-cache" header or not.  And I do NOT how if Veoh is respecting the HTTP "no-cache" header or not.  Just trying to give everyone a perspetive on the technology side of things.  (One note though.  If you do specify the "no-cache" header, then your site will be ALOT slower.  Letting others cache things speeds things up alot more than you probably realize.  If anyone wants an explaination of how this works, let me know, and I'll provide it.)
Also, just to say it again, I am only trying to address one very specific point that you made Josh -- the point about caching.Another point I say this knowing that I'll probably get flamed for it, but I think it's important to not to ignore points and try to silence them just because we don't like hearing them  (After all, if this would go to court, anyone else with a bit of knowledge of Internet Technology and Law will probably tell you this)  Veoh could argue that part of what they are doing is acting like a web cache.  And since Web Caching has held up in court, as being legal over and over again, that their caching of video is also legal.  (Of course, this assumes that their software has been properly coded to act as a web cache.)
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I think copyright is only one part of the problem here. The biggerproblem in my eyes is that by Veoh caching and rehosting videoswithout permission they are making it seem as though all thesevloggers are members of the Veoh community, agreeing to Veoh's terms
of service, when this is not the case. This is deceitful practice.Its not just about link backs or adhereing to CC licenses (though thatis part of the problem). Its also about my right as a user to decide

whether or not I'd like to participate in an web community or not.Veoh cannot make this decision for me and then tell me I have theopp

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

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On 4/8/06, hpbatman7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What I don't get and maybe someone can explain this to me in a simplemanner, (I am not a real tech guy, I know enough and am learning buton a thread like this I realize how much I don't know.) I put myvideos out, what is to stop someone from putting my RSS feed into a
site without my knowledge and how does that site know it's not me?Nothing is stopping this, and in many cases this would be a good thing.  Getting more exposure to your site, and your videos.
The key point is: is that site (which is collecting RSS feeds) just an index of feeds (and thus simply pointing to the creators work via the links within their feed) ... or a service like Veoh that downloads that content, alters it, and rehosts it, and possibly even (as Veoh has done) fail to even provide a link back to the origional artist ... thus inplying this content is somehow affiliated with the service.
Lots of great services do these things (hosting/transcoding/etc), but the key point in the Veoh debate is that the content producers are not the ones electing to have their work altered and rehosted.  Requests for this altered content never hit the producers servers so they never see the stats.  They have no way of knowing the altered content even exists ... and they have no attribution giving them credit at this new site (which is a very simple requirement of most of our cc licenses).
And again I think the real sticking point here is that this isn't a case like YouTube where the artists go to upload their content in order to get these services ... this is someone taking the content from the prodcuer without their knowledge, altering it, hosting it elsewhere, and displaying as part of a larger video site without so much as a link back.
What is to stop someone from uploading my video to "YouTube" and have
it link back to "their" site? Nothing.  But at least in this case it's a user who's breaking the rules and not the service/site itself. 
You can have all the "opt in" you want but byputting our video out there we all take the risk ofsomeone "highjacking" our stuffdon't we?Yup, no question.  If a rouge user of YouTube is uploading my video thats one thing ... but should we allow a commercial service be one of the active hijackers?  The commercial service itself should at least respect the copyright (even if some of its users fail to) ... especially since most of us have the license information embedded into the feed ... its all there.
I hear what you're saying though. I've been a long time advocate of the idea "If you have a feed, you're authroizing syndication  wherever anyone wants to syndicate it." However, those people syndicating it still need to abide by the copyrights that are attached to the content within the feed.
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Ahck I wondered what happened to your site once when I tried to go there and couldnt get it to load.

That sucks man, sorry.  I'll re-visit later tonight. :-)

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Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?

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   opt-in CAN have these checks and balances though.

i've waited to see if an open submission system would be problematic, and if so, a simple trigger would force a typical member activation process.  but no need yet.I agree ...  I'm fine with an opt-out system so long as the 'in state' is designed to be in compliance with the license associated with the feed.
I have no problem with people syndicating my stuff.  I put it in a feed
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I admit that being able to toggle back and forth is nice ... but ...

if the VM app works like ones I have used in the windows world ... with
this application your windows system would exist as a bunch of files
within the MAC OS file system ... if yout MAC OS ever got hosed you'd
lose the Windows system too wouldnt you?  Not so if you'd duel
booted ... they'd be seperate file systems / partitions / whatever.

Also ... I've
seen performance hits on windows VMs running on PC hardware (no chip
emmulation there either).  I guess i'm thinking of this from a perspective of wanting to run very resource intensive apps. 

I like VMs ... they definately win out in alot of scenarios for ease of
use.  I just wasnt ready to call them clearly superior or more
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oops reverse that .. youd said that booting from windows on MAC hardware was "INFERIOR and much more dangerous" than running it in a virtual machine ...But I dont see why ... why?In fact I can think of more than a few reasons I'd rather have it actually booting from the OS I want to use.
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 Downloads Page with 3PDFs at the bottom to download and read all about it.<
http://www.parallels.com/en/news/id,8655> Press ReleaseI think this is a better solution than Boot Camp. But they each mayhave their time and place.--TaylorOn Apr 6, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Harold Johnson wrote:
> I thought that was a joke; is this for real?  Perhaps Apple,> realizing that hackers were doing it anyway, decided to "join> 'em" (rather than try an "beat 'em")...>
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