Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

2016-08-09 Thread Trey Scarborough
I use a Mikrotik RB912UAG-2HPnD with a 4g pcie and sim ~$200 in equipment and depending on the provider $9-30 a month for service I get the lowest tier data on a prepaid plan So if it goes over and I need faster speeds I can just pay for the usage needed. So far the cards I am using work well

Re: [AFMUG] B11

2016-08-09 Thread John Blake
It's obviously pricier than the B11, but if you want true symmetrical and a ton of throughput, you could look at the Huawei RTN-380 radios. These will do 4Gbps (2Gbps symmetrical) at full licensing, or there are 1, 2, 3Gbps licensing options. They use 71-76 GHz and 81-86 GHz and so are super

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

2016-08-09 Thread Bill Prince
I looked below your message for the details behind the asterisks, but there was none. bp On 8/8/2016 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 90* overall and I think 7x 13* individual? Dimensions are here

Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have no idea. WiSP friend sent it to me.. He is in Rio.. Big soccer fan. not sure where he got it Round here the guys from Juarez and Chihuahua speak English as well as we do... They say WiFi... Not sure in Spain..or Canary islands... In Bolivia, the engineers I worked with spoke perfect

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers

2016-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
IMO if you go to 48v you'll have more options. I think the 48v stuff tends to be designed with Telecom in mind so it tends to be more rugged. -- Original Message -- From: "Gino Villarini" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 8/9/2016 10:45:39 AM Subject: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

2016-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I can confirm behavior already observed by other people on this mailing list, Windows 10 updates behave like torrents and can cripple the end user by saturating the internet connection with dozens of simultaneous connections. I have 3mbps at home and a Windows update running tonight which has

Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Who are those guys? And is WiFi really pronounced "WeeFee" in Spanish? -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 9:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube That's pretty funny :) They have a 16x10G

Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes it was funny.. On Aug 9, 2016 8:35 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > That's pretty funny :) > > They have a 16x10G version now too! > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
So what makes traffic lights not efficient? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You can still make a fire rubbing two sticks together, and that will work >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
They're an airline - you'd think they had heard of a cloud *snicker* - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure They keep all their servers in the same central location??

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
You can still make a fire rubbing two sticks together, and that will work forever. It's not efficient though. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You put up a light/module and it runs 24/7 for decades. Sounds pretty > efficient to me. > > > Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's pretty funny :) They have a 16x10G version now too! On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be=ucg2_Uu3SYA

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
You put up a light/module and it runs 24/7 for decades. Sounds pretty efficient to me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It's a mess, inefficient amazing it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
It's a mess, inefficient amazing it still works? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:15:39

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Legacy isn't always bad. Look at traffic control. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 9, 2016 10:12 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > I have a good buddy who has been a air traffic controller for many years. > He

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Cameron Crum
I have a good buddy who has been a air traffic controller for many years. He was one of four guys brought into Baton Rouge after Katrina to work 18-20 hours for a month straight. He says you done't even want to know about the "legacy" equipment in ATC. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
hah, Matt Hardy said that was my breakfast. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Tuesday, August 9,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Salud a todos "Yanquis go home, gringas come here, ajuaaa!! " Rancho El Pino, Bustillos, Chihuahua 1966. On Aug 9, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Airlines fly around clouds. > > *From:* Travis Johnson > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:32 PM >

[AFMUG] Pa mis compas Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-12F - YouTube

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be=ucg2_Uu3SYA

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Regulated isn't a barrier, but legacy is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 6:57:02 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would prefer that any chance of sharing? On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote: > I set mine up by default the long way. So that all traffic generated by > default from my routers is the Loopback address. Its good for > EOIP/BGP/IPSEC/Radius/Syslog/etc. Then

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Now that was inspired Ken. When I get home and open my Tecate, I will remember this and guffaw, spilling a few precious drops Damn I am a lush On Aug 9, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Airlines fly around clouds. > > *From:* Travis Johnson > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Airlines fly around clouds. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure They keep all their servers in the same central location?? You would think someone the size of Delta would know better. They should look into this new

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Two rules I live by If everything is important, then nothing is important... And, learn to say No... The first is prioritizing day and week. the second is harder... If you are in management and getting pulled from all sides, you will not get much done. Learning the No part is tougher. A good

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/9/16 16:43, Mike Hammett wrote: Cloud is grossly overrated. Substitute "cloud" for "other people's servers" or "modern shared hosting", but that's not as marketable sounding. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Robert
And Airline support systems are massively legacy and regulated... On 8/9/16 4:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Cloud is grossly overrated. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep.. Distributed and redundant servers in several different locations is one better option. Phillips 66 refinery in Borger, Texas had back up systems and communications triplicated.Had their own cellular system as well to two way radio, long range cordless system and several techs get HAM

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Cloud is grossly overrated. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 6:32:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Travis Johnson
They keep all their servers in the same central location?? You would think someone the size of Delta would know better. They should look into this new thing called "the cloud"... I've heard it's an up-and-coming new technology that might really help them. LOL Travis On 8/9/2016 5:18 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Yup … all you gotta tell gamers is that IPv6 is 2ms faster than IPv4 and they’ll fork up the money .. haha I actually see escalated tickets come into our NOC team over a 2ms difference on pings comparing us to another provider sometimes .. > On Aug 9, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
+1 Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 4:37:20 PM > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Isn’t XP “Server” an oxymoron? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 5:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure “According to the flight captain of JFK-SLC this morning, a routine scheduled switch to the backup generator

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
That's true. Any my biggest bottleneck currently is my self on the accounting side. Don't trust it to anyone else. Requires a LOT of time I also seem to be doing a lot of our ordering. - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Trey Scarborough
I set mine up by default the long way. So that all traffic generated by default from my routers is the Loopback address. Its good for EOIP/BGP/IPSEC/Radius/Syslog/etc. Then again like I said I set it up from the start this way so it can change a lot of configurations if you do it after

[AFMUG] OT Delta failure

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
“According to the flight captain of JFK-SLC this morning, a routine scheduled switch to the backup generator this morning at 2:30am caused a fire that destroyed both the backup and the primary. Firefighters took a while to extinguish the fire. Power is now back up and 400 out of the 500 servers

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

2016-08-09 Thread Joe Falaschi
Oh yea, we were having GPS issues as well the 1000 that the 2000 fixed, thanks for reminding me George. Mike, we have the BSA deployed in Lake In The Hills and Carpentersville Illinois. I’ll send you a private email tomorrow when I have more time. But, in short I’d say deploy them if you

Re: [AFMUG] License Keys

2016-08-09 Thread Sean Heskett
i think i remember when we did our 2 links i had to call cambium support and they had to push the request along manually (this was last year tho so my memory is foggy) -sean On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Roland Houin wrote: > I normally get them within 15 minutes. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, here’s some web browsing results for you. http://www.asrcreviews.org/nad-recommends-comcast-discontinue-fastest-internet-claims-fastest-in-home-wi-fi-claims-in-certain-contexts-comcast-to-appeal/ Their logic puzzles me. I expected their complaint to be that Comcast wasn’t faster than

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nope... Time management On Aug 9, 2016 3:11 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > I think you guys (Ken and Jamie) have time to surf the web everyday LOL > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *To:* Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ll bet you could charge gamers extra for IPv6. Your game console can have its own public IP address! No NAT not even in your router! Oh wait, PSN isn’t on IPv6. Oh, and when they tell you to forward ports, good luck figuring out how that applies to IPv6. From: Chuck McCown Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] License Keys

2016-08-09 Thread Roland Houin
I normally get them within 15 minutes. roland > How long does it take to get a license key for a PTP820s? I�ve been waiting about 30 min so far <

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
A properly running operation will give you plenty of time to research new technology, further your IT/business education, or evaluate potential business opportunities. If you're only treading water, you're going to miss out on a lot of opportunities. *shrug* On Aug 9, 2016 4:11 PM, "CBB - Jay

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I think you guys (Ken and Jamie) have time to surf the web everyday LOL - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be Good one.. Thanks... I sent her this

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Good one.. Thanks... I sent her this link http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/here-are-what-cell-phone-signals-would-look-like-if-you-could-see-them On Aug 9, 2016 2:54 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > How about audio. The difference between listening to music over a > telephone vs a

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
How about audio. The difference between listening to music over a telephone vs a high end audio system. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be She asked if I could show her what the radio signal

[AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
She asked if I could show her what the radio signal coming out a smartphone versus an old cellphone looked like... I asked her why she thought the signals were different... "Well grandpa, smart phones play videos and Internet stuff, so the signals are fatter... Like bigger pipes for more

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Isn't Cradlepoint located there? On Aug 9, 2016 2:38 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > The Seattle transit system is using cradlepoint routers with wifi on some > bus lines for "free" captive portal wifi... > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

2016-08-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The Seattle transit system is using cradlepoint routers with wifi on some bus lines for "free" captive portal wifi... On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > We used Cradlepoint on school buses... They were okay. > > On Aug 8, 2016 1:40 PM, "Josh Baird"

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
So, instead of everyone investing in more IP (I am doing it too) focus on perfecting the CGNAT/V6 only solution. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? I think my friend is second on the list for a... /20? I think he's

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
We used Cradlepoint on school buses... They were okay. On Aug 8, 2016 1:40 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > Just an update for those who care: > > We ended up going with a used Cradlepoint 750B w/ Verizon LTE model (eBay) > and an AirConsole from Get-Console [1]. > > [1]

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Paul Stewart
We charge $4/month currently .. in my previous job it wasn’t offered to residential, only business and then was free (competitive advantage kind of thing) > On Aug 9, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo > Comcast business:

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Paul Stewart
I also worked with several providers whom for the past 6-8 years knew that IPv4 was running out .. most had already deployed IPv6 at that point to stay ahead of any “sudden rushes” … but along that route (pardon the pun), some of those providers started SWIP’ing out as much IP space as they

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Tim Reichhart
sometimes upstream providers will swip block of ip's. -Original Message- From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Date: 08/09/16 03:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? Considering that buying at $10/IP pays for itself in less than a year vs leasing at

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Considering that buying at $10/IP pays for itself in less than a year vs leasing at 1.20/ip/month , if capex is a problem, some sort of loan to acquire individual /24s through the purchase transfer process is MUCH less costly over a period of the next 24-48 months. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:04

[AFMUG] License Keys

2016-08-09 Thread Dan Petermann
How long does it take to get a license key for a PTP820s? I’ve been waiting about 30 min so far

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Consider leasing approx $1.20 / ip / month. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)"

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Most IP addresses are not sold to the end user as a separate line item, but rather included as part of Internet service. So the retail price of a static IP probably doesn't tell you much about market rate for an ISP to acquire IP space. I think retail pricing for static IPs is based on

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Travis Johnson
AND the people hanging on to /16 blocks to sell them later. :( Travis On 8/9/2016 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Uh... Pretty sure it's the schools with /16 and DOD with a dozen /8 before all of the WISPs to blame for exhaustion :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I have seen uverse modems using ipv6 now - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? On 8/9/16 09:45, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I notice that my AT UVerse connection at home goes

Re: [AFMUG] Service in KC Liberty Area.

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Golden Prairie was one I knew about On Aug 9, 2016 10:48 AM, "Mike Delp" wrote: > Hey guys, I have a need for service (~20Meg) at the following coordinates. > I keep pushing for more wireless providers to be used for this stuff, but > Have been late in the process on most

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I think my friend is second on the list for a... /20? I think he's expecting to get it within a year. If you didn't join the waiting list in the first couple weeks, it's a pipe dream. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'm not arguing with you, it's posted info by the respective ISPs. A single ip is expensive, a small block is cheaper per IP. This is called economy of scale. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: > Josh > the retail pricing for static IP for TWC

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Tim Reichhart
single* dam auto correct. -Original Message- > From: "Tim Reichhart" > To: af@afmug.com > Date: 08/09/16 02:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > > Josh > the retail pricing for static IP for TWC is not 20 dollars because 13 statics > is

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/9/16 11:34, Josh Luthman wrote: If you can work with a smaller subnet buy a smaller one? If you do need a /21 what other option do you have besides buying a /21? ARIN's waiting list of broken dreams.

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Tim Reichhart
Josh the retail pricing for static IP for TWC is not 20 dollars because 13 statics is about 50 dollars per month which it comes down to about 4 dollars per IP and signal IP is about 10-15 dollars. Frontier 5 statics is about 20 dollars on business DSL. -Original Message- > From: "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
If you can work with a smaller subnet buy a smaller one? If you do need a /21 what other option do you have besides buying a /21? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
I really need a /21 right now. It's becoming a nightmare. Don't really want to break them up into small subnets but I also don't want to offload that kind of cash either. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime #

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Right, but now you have a one time transfer fee, and then the acquisition fee. Yearly it's still based on the total allocation size you own, which doesn't cost very much. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:22 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Wow, our /22 from ARIN is $500 / year

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Wow, our /22 from ARIN is $500 / year ;) I hope we don't outgrow that soon - but we will - Original Message - From: Andreas Wiatowski To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? I just paid a little over 10k for a /22.

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lol On Aug 9, 2016 12:14 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > I've never willing listened to rap... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I've never willing listened to rap... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > And Josh, I did redact my statement correctly. I paraphrased Tower of >

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
And Josh, I did redact my statement correctly. I paraphrased Tower of Power's classic , You're Still A Young Man. Stop listening to rap! Zaz On Aug 9, 2016 12:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Bingo system... Getting more info. On Aug 9, 2016 11:58 AM, "Faisal

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
70 volt audio perhaps. CAT5 should do just fine on that I think but might want to be shielded. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:03 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request Bingo system... Getting more info. On Aug 9, 2016 11:58 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Oh man, thats dangerous territory, you start messing with some grannys bingo, youll get cut in the parking lot On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Bingo system... Getting more info. > > On Aug 9, 2016 11:58 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Bingo system... Getting more info. On Aug 9, 2016 11:58 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > I love such request, they sound so genuine, and yet they provide a good > indication of the 'IT expertise ' level of the requester. > > btw if the request is to take a POTS line from

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
RS485, 422 and 423. How about a "hoot and holler line" (I will be surprised if more than 2 of you remember those). -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request If it isn't some known

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Or just leave it on the CAT5 if the wiring is continuous and within a few thousand feet. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request I love such request, they sound so genuine, and yet they provide a good indication

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
If it isn't some known protocol like POTS or RS232, he's probably out of luck. RJ11 is just a connector spec, and there's nothing that will digitize or packetize an arbitrary analog signal, much less a 6 wire arbitrary signal. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I love such request, they sound so genuine, and yet they provide a good indication of the 'IT expertise ' level of the requester. btw if the request is to take a POTS line from one side of the network to a totally different side of the network... This is doable with a couple IAD (linksys

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
There is reason why I suggested you go the short way. The long way, is the technical attribute that can offer you a fix, but I cringe t think of how it may affect your network. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
As opposed to a young man baby! On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > As opposed to a young, man baby? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:44 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
As opposed to a young, man baby? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Commas are important :) > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Commas are important :) On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hey... I am still a young man, baby > > > On Aug 9, 2016 11:37 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: >> >> I gotta give you credit, I don't have the patience for some of these

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey... I am still a young man, baby On Aug 9, 2016 11:37 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I gotta give you credit, I don't have the patience for some of these > requests you get. > > "Props, Pops" > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
It is still beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:29:01 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
That could be almost anything. I would think if it was analog it would be 2 or 4 wires. But old fashioned 4W E took 6 wires but normally those circuits remain in the central office. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:36 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
I gotta give you credit, I don't have the patience for some of these requests you get. "Props, Pops" On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > An IT guy at casino wants to take a 6 wire RJ-11 analog signal and send it > over their network Trying to

[AFMUG] Interesting request

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
An IT guy at casino wants to take a 6 wire RJ-11 analog signal and send it over their network Trying to get more info.

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i started watching the brothers wisp video on that the other day but got side tracked, its still beta isnt it? On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > You could just use Unimus and not worry about sending e-mail from your > Mikrotik routers. > > > > - > Mike

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
You could just use Unimus and not worry about sending e-mail from your Mikrotik routers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To:

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
can you detail the long way in this instance, I just want it to be if it is traffic generated by the router destined for tcp port 25 present as 1.2.3.4 but dont impact anything else, what I dont want to risk is OSPF breaking or dropping an EOIP tunnel because that traffic is presenting differently

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
There is a long way to solve this problem and there is a short way to solve this problem. short way first:- Mikrotik supports user authentication on out bound mail, so all you need to do is create a valid email user account on our mail server and use those credentials in your MT router

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have other things I would like to do aside from just the email if I can control the presenting IP on mikrotiks, but this is todays need. All the routers loopback/router IDs are /32s from a global /24 and if we have 250 some infrastructure routers at some point in time, We would have a "guy for

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread George Skorup
I have an internal anycast address that's shared by three machines that provides SMTP, DNS and syslog to infrastructure devices. SMTP auth. Works. No dicking. The MT will do a route lookup and use the exit interface's source address. Doesn't matter because of SMTP auth. It's easier than

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats what I want to do, have the mail server relay for them. I have a subnet on our network set aside to relay email for our domain. For ease of management theyre open relays with firewall policies dropping any traffic to them not from authorized hosts, same as setting the subnets but managed

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think you understand what's going on here. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/9/16 09:45, Ken Hohhof wrote: I notice that my AT UVerse connection at home goes for months with the same public IP even though I'm not paying for a static IP, in fact I don't think it has ever changed. But it COULD change unless I pay for a static IP. I don't think it's guaranteed to

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I think we're talking grown up providers, not residential retail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9,

[AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
right or wrong, i want to set up an open mail relay on our network for mikrotik backups. I want to lock the relay down to only accept traffic from our internal subnet for loopback IPs on the site routers. How do I make specific traffic always present as the same IP no matter which interface it

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik present as loopback address

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Wouldn't it be easier to just deliver mail to the server? You could set the mail server to relay from those subnets, that might be easier. I don't think the output chain is relevant at all to what you want as the Mikrotik isn't relaying the messages. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

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