Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-08-25 Thread Hardy, Tim
Jirous 4' also only meet Cat B and would also be subject to upgrade at the licensee's expense. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 6:58:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

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2017-08-25 Thread Mathew Howard
been coordinated or applied for with these >> radios. >> -- >> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of SmarterBroadband < >> li...@sbb.net> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMU

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2017-08-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
US paths have been coordinated or applied for with these >> radios. >> -- >> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of SmarterBroadband < >> li...@sbb.net> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-08-25 Thread George Skorup
-- *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Ex

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2017-08-25 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
fmug.com> on behalf of SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? >> >> >> >> Fro

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2017-08-25 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
;af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of SmarterBroadband < > li...@sbb.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > > Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun..

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Hardy, Tim
As of today, no US paths have been coordinated or applied for with these radios. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Expe

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2017-05-31 Thread SmarterBroadband
Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Dear all, Apologies I've only just seen this post, A small input from CableFree

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2017-05-31 Thread Mitch Koep
Please send pricing to mi...@abwisp.com Mitch On 5/31/2017 12:30 PM, Stephen Patrick wrote: Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 112MHz spectrum.

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2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
But that’s only if you want to do that optional goofy license thingy. But if you are a sovereign nation with the right kind of fringe on your flag you can pretty much do anything you want. From: Hardy, Tim Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11

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2017-05-31 Thread Hardy, Tim
6 pairs @ 80 MHz bw 12 pairs @ 40 MHz bw 13 pairs @ 30 MHz bw From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences 10.7-11.7 / 2 for duplex channel pairs. I forget exactly how it's laid out

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread George Skorup
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We are on TowerCoverage. I did not know it did path calcs. *From:* Af [mail

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2017-05-31 Thread Stephen Patrick
sit www.linktechs.net >> >> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com >> >> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270> >> >> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Smar

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
dware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net > > Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com > > Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270> > > E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband > *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
0:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We are on TowerCoverage. I did not know it did path calcs. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Expe

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-30 Thread SmarterBroadband
We are on TowerCoverage. I did not know it did path calcs. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years :) From: Af [mailto:af

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
wrote: > Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years J > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Hardy, Tim > *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > > > Found this on ubnt forum

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-27 Thread Dennis Burgess
Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Found this on ubnt forum - can't comment on accuracy. FYI, we use PathLoss. https

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-27 Thread Hardy, Tim
iday, May 26, 2017 8:17:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to..  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Ex

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to..  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just l

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
ll > have very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experien

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
I can use Link Planner to check LOS. But the 820 in Link Planner will have very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Liz Creekmore at IntelPath. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:59 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote: Using? From: Af [mailto:af-boun.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
planning is done by your coordinator. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: > Using? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com&

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Baird
Liz Creekmore at IntelPath. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:59 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: > Using? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Su

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
Using? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences DIY On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net> > w

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
; > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > > > We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it > up

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
How are you Link Planning your AF11 links? Does UBNT do link Planning? Reseller? DIY? Other?? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We ha

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2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
gt;> a >>> few years from that point of view. >>> >>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Mark, I can see your point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no >>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences They still operate with less efficiency than last-generation traditio

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2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sen

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:39:13 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Mark, I can see your point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no operate the same way From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > Reply-To: " af@a

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm with you. I would also rather license the biggest possible channel. -- Original Message -- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/26/2017 1:09:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >>>>the fact that you're hav

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Jon Langeler
nternet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:54:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Expe

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
<g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >> Mark, I can see your point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no operate >>> the same way >>> >>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mark Radabaugh < >>> m...@amplex.net> >>&

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Stefan Englhardt
rote: Mark, I can see your point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no operate the same way From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 12:07 PM To: "

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
our point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no operate > the same way > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mark Radabaugh < > m...@amplex.net> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 12:07 PM > To: &

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
g.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 12:07 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences The lack of spectrum efficiency with the licensed bands i

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Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

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Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
e Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:56:

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Stefan Englhardt
tps://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:56:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Do you have to have some sort of Login for

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:56:31 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > Do you have to have some sort of Lo

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:56:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Do you have to have some sort of Login for that? I just return a plain 'You are not authorized to access this page.' when following the link. On 5/26/2017 8:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: https://

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Nate Burke
sp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:20:42 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences My theory is that

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:20:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences My theory is that the AF11FX "40 MHz" channel used in the previous example I posted is actually something like 33 or 34 MHz wide if you look at it on a $15,000 bench test spectrum analyzer. On Thu, May 2

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences On 5/25/17 18:12, Mathew Howard wrote: > > We're running the full 56mhz/MIMO... I haven't been able to get them to > run at 1024qam yet (antennas still need to be fine tuned, it wasn't > ideal weather conditions when we put them up, so I'm ho

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:59:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I think the throughput should exactly match the ubnt datasheet claim and what the frequency coordinator for your link says it will do. It w

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
"af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 9:16 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Looking again at

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In a small/medium sized city where it might become difficult to coordinate new 11 GHz PTP someday in the future, but you have a need for 400-600 Mbps to a site now, it's not a bad way to "reserve" a dual polarity 80 MHz channel if you can get it, either... Some day in the future, remove the

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I saw somewhat of an explanation from ubnt at one point... I don't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure FEC was part of the reason. For an $800 radio, they're good at what the do and they have their place, but people shouldn't expect them to perform the same as a $4000 radio. On May

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
My theory is that the AF11FX "40 MHz" channel used in the previous example I posted is actually something like 33 or 34 MHz wide if you look at it on a $15,000 bench test spectrum analyzer. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > It is significantly

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Mathew Howard
It is significantly worse... Look at the spec sheets. Our old SAF Lumina can do 366mbps in a single polarity 256qam 56mhz channel... an AF11 doesn't even match that running at 1024qam - it will theoretically do somewhere around 340mbps at 1024qam and somewhere around 275mbps at 256qam. On May 25,

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I'm going to eat my own words a little bit here. Just compared the AF11FX datasheet side by side with the SAF Integra for a theoretical 40 MHz single polarity FDD link. The AF11FX is something like 252Mbps, the SAF is a claimed 315 Mbps in the same 40 MHz wide. My theory is that ubnt has done

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Bill Prince
I don't know that anyone has really examined the overhead required by OFDM (AF11) versus the overhead required by the various other licensed vendor proprietary modulation schemes. I think this would be the primary issue. I know we get over 500 Mbps through a Dragonwave on a single 50 MHz

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If all you can get on a particular path is a theoretical single 40 MHz wide FDD channel pair, one polarity, I don't see how the 1024QAM bps/Hz efficiency would be significantly worse than a competing single polarity product (SAF Integra, etc) running in the same channel size. Unless you are

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread George Skorup
Yeah. Cost is one thing, but if all you can get is a single polarity on a particular path, the AF11 is probably one of the last things I'd look at. Congestion is a problem around here. On 5/25/2017 8:21 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 5/25/17 18:12, Mathew Howard wrote: We're running the full

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Mathew Howard
But that would have to be using the full 80mhz channel. But yeah, these aren't the most efficient radios out there... they should easily get over 600Mbps with 1024qam though. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 5/25/17 18:12, Mathew Howard wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/25/17 18:12, Mathew Howard wrote: We're running the full 56mhz/MIMO... I haven't been able to get them to run at 1024qam yet (antennas still need to be fine tuned, it wasn't ideal weather conditions when we put them up, so I'm hoping we'll be able to get a bit more out them), so they're

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Looking again at the datasheet for 56 MHz channels, dual polarity MIMO, the claim is just a little bit more than 680 Mbps full duplex in its maximum capacity configuration. Which should be a real world 640-650 Mbps. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I am about to put up an AF11FX dual polarity 80 MHz licensed path in the near future, and will be doing exhaustive tests on it (RFC2544 + various layer 3 tests/iperf, etc). Will be sure to post the results. As the relatively short 13 km distance it's going it will be a solid 1024QAM link. On

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Similar to any other airFiber... they'll pretty consistently do about 90% of the stated capacity with real traffic. We're running the full 56mhz/MIMO... I haven't been able to get them to run at 1024qam yet (antennas still need to be fine tuned, it wasn't ideal weather conditions when we put them

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Nate Burke
Yes, but I've actually yet to have someone verify that. Another Radio vendor has told me that testing the AF11x on the bench they can only get to half the advertised throughput. Others on this list claim they have heard they are only good for 400-500mb, but nobody that I've seen yet has

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I think the throughput should exactly match the ubnt datasheet claim and what the frequency coordinator for your link says it will do. It would be directly related to channel size and one or two polarities. In a H 80 MHz FDD licensed configuration it actually uses a linear 56 MHz channel in each

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Nate Burke
Have you run BW tests on it? what kind of throughput are you 'really' seeing? What Channel size Mimo/siso etc. On 5/25/2017 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up (which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Mathew Howard
We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up (which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I haven't touched it since. The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Ben Moore
25, 2017 at 3:32 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > Gino, > > What dishes did you use for 3' and 4’? Did they come with cables? > Our radio waves 3’ did not come with cables and pasternack wanted like > $200/ea pe

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
t;mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Gino, What dishes did you use for 3' and 4’? Did they come with cables? Our radio

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
; > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com > <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM > To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Good to hear. Are you using 2 foot or 3 foot dishes? Any issues with the N connectors at all? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
Good to hear. Are you using 2 foot or 3 foot dishes? Any issues with the N connectors at all? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We have about 5 deployed

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Jon Langeler
Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > We are looking to add some more

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
.com>> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 2:46 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network. Does anyone actually have the AF11 in

[AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network. Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service. Is it worth a look? How is it performing for you? Any issues? Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing companied like; Exalt ? Dragonwave

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02 PM Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
-- > > *From: *"Jesse DuPont" <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question > > G

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
t: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02 PM Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has experience with this. I'm putting up some AF11X links and I want to power them off our 24VDC plant via PoE. I'v

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
quot; <af@afmug.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question > Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has experience with this. I'm putting > up some AF11X links and I want to power them off our 24VDC plant via PoE. I've > used the Tycon

[AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

2017-05-23 Thread Jesse DuPont
Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has experience with this. I'm putting up some AF11X links and I want to power them off our 24VDC plant via PoE. I've used the Tycon TP-DCDC-2456G-VHP units before on AF24: they're 24V input, 56V out on all 4 pairs of PoE.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
We technically still have a couple weeks of summer left... yeah, I don't see it happening. On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/8/16 15:05, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Lol but if you go to the precious forum where the latest information is >> the post

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/16 15:05, Josh Luthman wrote: Lol but if you go to the precious forum where the latest information is the post says "definitely within this summer". Winter is coming.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
tps://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwesti

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
t;>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-08 Thread Carl Peterson
//www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> &

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Mathew Howard
>> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:58:24 PM >&

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
w.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/7/16 3:51 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Going to their forums, though, just makes you feel incredibly dirty. Lots of dumbasses around there and I'm not necessarily talking about the newbies. It's the superusers that think they lay golden turds when most of their opinion is just that... shit.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Gino Villarini
; <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Eric Ku

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Jon Langeler
Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:22:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 > > 1024QAM? Depends on the link. Need more

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Mike Hammett
nolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:58:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 One thing this group needs to understand is that if you don't interact directly with the UBNT on their forum (and draw up votes via popular opinion), they're li

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Mike Hammett
product. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:22:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-07 Thread Mike Hammett
2016 9:12:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 If it's dual polarity you won't need 80MHz wide. 40mhz x 2 should be plenty for -most- links. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Look at the page with the spec

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck McCown
UBNT forum is like survey monkey. We are the Bilderbergers... From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Ben, Matt and Chuck are here, and I'm sure others. They are not deaf and blind. One thing the AF silicon has going

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Josh Reynolds
onnectors in the FCC test report photo. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 7:33 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 > > > Some people start forgetting things as they get older. /s > > On Sep 6,

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread George Skorup
I didn’t see any N connectors in the FCC test report photo. *From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 7:33 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Some people start forgetting things a

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Jon Langeler
gt;> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> >>> The Brothers WISP >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.c

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Josh Reynolds
t-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >&

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Mathew Howard
/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:00:23

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

2016-09-06 Thread Jon Langeler
65 - > 79 MHz wide carrier. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af&qu

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