Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
rent Pope came from there and seems a nice fellow. > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 3:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > > Hah > On Mar 14, 2016 3:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> So I

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
were lots of strong men and demagogues populists. But the current Pope came from there and seems a nice fellow. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Hah On Mar 14, 2016 3:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: So I

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2016-03-14 Thread Bill Prince
Monday, March 14, 2016 2:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan /I would give a woman a mulligan for the first few weeks. / To clarify my previous post, me too. I am NOT in the camp that thinks abortion is okay at any time d

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
ing to start >> making those decisions for others and using the government to enforce them, >> it had better be very, very clearcut that it’s something that we want the >> government involved in. If it’s not so clear, then keep the government the >> hell out of our lives. Eve

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
volved in. If it’s not so clear, then keep the government the > hell out of our lives. Even if our neighbors might be doing stuff that we > disapprove of. > > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: P

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
ear, then keep the government the hell out of our lives. Even > if our neighbors might be doing stuff that we disapprove of. > > > From: Bruce Robertson > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:01 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > I would give a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I would give a woman a mulligan for the first few weeks. To clarify my previous post, me too. I am NOT in the camp that thinks abortion is okay at any time during the term of the pregnancy. On 03/14/2016 11:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am not in

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
Belief sounds like a religiony thing... ;-) -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan The ones that do not believe immunizations are good for their children are making decisions based on belief

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
, 2016 1:19 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Law is based on religion. The decalogue. > Legislation is based on law. > You will never be able to get free from religion. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 14, 201

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
get free from religion. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:15 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Religious based legislation is any legislation based on religious > texts that impacts large bodies of

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
free from religion. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:15 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Religious based legislation is any legislation based on religious > texts that impacts large bodies of

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread chuck
beliefs on you. If you do not set your clock ahead, you are going to hell. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Law is based on religion. The decalogue. Legislation is based on law. You will

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Bill Prince
rince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 1:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when presented new data. Religion can't do that.

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
Law is based on religion. The decalogue. Legislation is based on law. You will never be able to get free from religion. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Religious based legislation is any

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2016-03-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
; abortions. It sounds a lot more like if you're going to have sex, you > deserve to get pregnant, you slut > > > -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:34 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > I used to b

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
morning, it is based on science even thought I might > think it is God. Which is it? > > > > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Hypothetical: I'm g

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2016-03-14 Thread Jeremy
as 16 week. >>> >>> Then I saw the light... >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan >>> >>> Sorry COR

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread chuck
ultrasounds at around the 14-16 week mark. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I really hope youre talking about a few weeks after conception and not birth. But then again, some babies are ugly. My daughter was

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2016-03-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
do. Slowly. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 1:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when > presented new data. Religion can't do that. > > bp

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
I might think it is God. Which is it? -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Hypothetical: I'm going to pose Shari Law on you, and you can't avoid it. Now tell me why it's okay to

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
her arms and > sucking her tumb. All as 16 week. > > Then I saw the light... > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Sorry CORRECTION, **birth** not concep

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2016-03-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
; conception. Some time before birth. I would give a woman a mulligan for > the first few weeks. > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:52 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > I don't believe

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
I believe science is the lens through which we look for God. > > From: Bruce Robertson > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:13 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you would > be trying to c

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
Not all religions ... but some do. Slowly. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when presented new data. Religion can't do that. bp On 3/1

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2016-03-14 Thread Bruce Robertson
me claim better eyesight. *From:* Jeremy <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 12:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Science is true whether or not you believe in it. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM, <mailto:ch...@w

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2016-03-14 Thread Bruce Robertson
conception. Some time before birth. I would give a woman a mulligan for the first few weeks. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I don't believe many people are actually pro-abortion. An

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Bill Prince
t;mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 12:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Science is true whether or not you believe in it. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM, <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: I used to bel

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Bill Prince
iature human she was. Stretching her arms and sucking her tumb. All as 16 week. Then I saw the light... -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
ing. When the spirit enters the body. Sometime after conception. Some time before birth. I would give a woman a mulligan for the first few weeks. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I don'

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2016-03-14 Thread Bruce Robertson
t pregnant, you slut -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I used to believe like you. During my teen years, having lots of fun with the opposite sex, I figured abortion was a handy solution to a pr

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
science and religion are just opposing sides of the same elephant. Some claim better eyesight. From: Jeremy Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Science is true whether or not you believe in it. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM, wrote

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2016-03-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
. >> I saw my daughter as the miniature human she was. Stretching her arms >> and sucking her tumb. All as 16 week. >> >> Then I saw the light... >> >> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds >> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM >> To: af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan I used to believe like you. During my teen years, having lots of fun with the opposite sex, I figured abortion was a handy solution to a problem if it cropped up. Then I got married.

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2016-03-14 Thread Jeremy
ch 14, 2016 12:24 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan > > Sorry CORRECTION, **birth** not conception. > > I'm feeling groggy from the time shift, and have not had enough coffee. > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
. Stretching her arms and sucking her tumb. All as 16 week. Then I saw the light... -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Sorry CORRECTION, **birth** not conception. I'm feeling groggy fro

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2016-03-14 Thread chuck
. Personally I believe science is the lens through which we look for God. From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you would be trying to carry out the wishes

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2016-03-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
So we’re talking about the death penalty now? Drone strikes? I’m confused. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan So at what age should state sanctioned murder be stopped, or is all just up to the individual and their

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sorry CORRECTION, **birth** not conception. I'm feeling groggy from the time shift, and have not had enough coffee. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Upon natural or medically induced conception. Until then it is an > organism that receives sustenance from the mother's body

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Upon natural or medically induced conception. Until then it is an organism that receives sustenance from the mother's body, thus is part of the mother - and her decision. You don't have to agree with me, and that's fine, but you shouldn't force legislation preventing people from making decisions ab

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2016-03-14 Thread Cameron Crum
So at what age should state sanctioned murder be stopped, or is all just up to the individual and their "belief"? On Mar 14, 2016 1:13 PM, "Bruce Robertson" wrote: > No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you would > be trying to carry out the wishes of the boss *as you

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2016-03-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Agree 100% On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: > No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you would > be trying to carry out the wishes of the boss as you understand them. Not > necessarily as I see those wishes. Therefore by supporting legislation t

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2016-03-14 Thread Bruce Robertson
No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you would be trying to carry out the wishes of the boss /as you understand them./ Not necessarily as I see those wishes. Therefore by supporting legislation that affects the population as a whole, you are imposing your beliefs u

[AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

2016-03-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Nevermind the persecution thing, I didn’t fully read your post properly. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan If I have a strong feeling that the guy in the sky that created all of us hates the murder of babies, yes I will