Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
gh to satisfy you until time proves us out. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05734.B2FDAE70]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedb

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread That One Guy
kt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini > *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:14 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Patrick, what is the roadmap on the CPE? CA

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
ayne Lebrun Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Note that Cambium radios are, with two excpetions off the top of my head, SDR. In theory, Cambium could reprogram a 450 SM to talk 802.11 if they wanted. ePMP are not SDR. T

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-05 Thread Shayne Lebrun
@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 2:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) That's the understanding of the term that I share. Thank you Jon. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 2:15 PM, Jon Auer w

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2015-03-05 Thread Jon Langeler
CPE. BUT the numbers NOT in red still double under MU-MIMO. > > > > Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:23 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Gino Villarini
ply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 9:18 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback The current cat 4 CPE will support upcoming MU-MIMO,

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2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
@01D0571C.FD40AF40]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Patrick, what is the roadmap on the CPE? CAt6 coming soon? Gino A. Villarini President A

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0571C.A8B13170]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Patrick, what is the roadmap on the CPE? CAt6 comin

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Gino Villarini
g.com>> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 7:58 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback I have confirmed. the current base stations can be upgraded and will be upgraded to QAM 256. Your sales rep is incorrect unl

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
..@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:21 PM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >My Telrad contact told me that the actual HW is not upgradable to 256 QAM. ***

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-05 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:21 PM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >My Telrad contact told me that the actual HW is not upgradable to 256 QAM.

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
o:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 4:42 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) I will beg to differ. The cellcos are constantly changing radios. My d

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
ies as LTE advances. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) (Patrick Leary) They did not prom

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
They did not promise an LTE-Upgrade. I dont know if their SDR would be flexible enough to do this. I guess SDR gives some kind of upgradability but there are limits. >SimpleTest Stefan: can they upgrade their WiMAX base stations to LTE? The >answer is No. Case closed. > >Sent from my Verizon Wi

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback My Telrad contact told me that the actual HW is not upgradable to 256 QAM. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
My Telrad contact told me that the actual HW is not upgradable to 256 QAM.

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
the software defined radio is remote in a centralized datacenter, I think it’s called C-RAN. From: Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Almost everybody who has an SD

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) I have a few of those devices in a tool bag. The wife wants me to get rid of them but I just can't. ryan On 3/4/15 11:57 AM, Patrick Leary wrote: Some things I keep for sentimental reas

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread D. Ryan Spott
snips, cleavers, hand scope. *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) What the heck. S

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2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
f-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) What the heck. Splurge. Get yourself a new hat. bp On 3/4/2015 11:32 AM, Patrick Leary wrote: I think I need to get my old hard hat out of the garage

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Cambium did a firmware update to add 256QAM. That is nothing to sneeze at. bp On 3/4/2015 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Almost everybody who has an SDR sells you on the notion that it can be upgraded later. Almost nobody ever actually does an

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
half Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) What are the significant differences between LTE and WiMax? They're both OFDM, they're both MIMO. I guess that LTE is 4x4 (I don't know)? Just wonder

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
centralized datacenter, I think it’s called C-RAN. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Almost everybody who has an SDR sells you on the notion that it can be upgraded later.� Almost nobody ever actually does

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
If LTE needs more linearity in the power amp stage than WiMax then indeed it could require a change in some radios. From: Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Alvarion had that as a dream, but was never

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
dmit defeat and change the hardware. *From:* Jon Auer <mailto:j...@tapodi.net> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:15 PM *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Purewave claiming SDR because they can add proprietary extensions seems like

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
Cambium did a firmware update to add 256QAM. That is nothing to sneeze at. bp On 3/4/2015 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Almost everybody who has an SDR sells you on the notion that it can be upgraded later. Almost nobody ever actually does anything more than bug fixes, or minor tweaks. I th

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Chuck McCown
like WiMax. Again at least 5-7 years since I read that document. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) What are the significant differences between LTE and WiMax? They're both OFDM, they're

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
history have said “it’s a SMOP (small matter of programming)” and then had to admit defeat and change the hardware. From: Jon Auer<mailto:j...@tapodi.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:15 PM To: Animal Farm<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Lear

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
ferent software load, no, they never claimed that AFAIK. -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and te

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and t

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Almost everybody who has an SDR sells you on the notion that it can be upgraded later. Almost nobody ever actually does anything more than bug fixes, or minor tweaks. I think the only way Telrad might be odd with their SDR is that they actually made different firmware to convert the unit from

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
programming)” and then had to admit defeat and change the hardware. From: Jon Auer Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:15 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) Purewave claiming SDR because they can add proprietary extensions seems like Ubiquiti claiming to be SDR

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
t of Purewave that went to >>>> Mercury, not the part that went to Redline. >>>> >>>> If you mean was it designed to do both WIMAX and LTE with just a >>>> different soft

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
f@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just google Purwave and SDR and you find some. *

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
just a different software load, no, they never claimed that AFAIK. -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Dist

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
rewave that went to Mercury, >>> not the part that went to Redline. >>> >>> If you mean was it designed to do both WIMAX and LTE with just a >>> different software load, no, they never claimed that AFAIK. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message---

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just google Purwave and SDR and you find some.

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
claimed that AFAIK. >> >> >> -----Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) >> >> >> >> PW is not SDR based >>> >> >> So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. >> Just google Purwave and SDR and you find some. >> >> >> >> >> >

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
o, they never claimed that AFAIK. > > > -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) > > > > PW is not SDR based >> > > So call their

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
that went to Mercury, not the part that went to Redline. If you mean was it designed to do both WIMAX and LTE with just a different software load, no, they never claimed that AFAIK. -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
SimpleTest Stefan: can they upgrade their WiMAX base stations to LTE? The answer is No. Case closed. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Mar 4, 2015 1:30 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: >PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just goog

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
er claimed that AFAIK. -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary) PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just google Purwave

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback (Patrick Leary)

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>PW is not SDR based So call their Distributors and tell them to change their announcements. Just google Purwave and SDR and you find some.

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
rick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:40 PM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >Patrick, please recheck with ni

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
neither is MU-MIMO > >Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:30 AM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > &g

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2015-03-04 Thread Gino Villarini
; >Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:30 AM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >>I di

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
QAM256 is not new hardware, neither is MU-MIMO Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >I disagree with the

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Who's "you guys"? I didn't work here when these decisions were made. :) Some day maybe you can fill me in on what's been done wrong. On or off list is fine. Once again, your deployment is non standard Adam. The way your sectors are confi

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
PW is not SDR based Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >I disagree with the "3 years it is old stu

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2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>I disagree with the "3 years it is old stuff." The COMPACTs are SDRs with lots >of latent capacity. Beeing old stuff is relative. We've SAF Luminas 366Mbit we could replace with Integras which do 450Mbit now. We've Radwin2000c with 100Mbit we could replace now with Mimosa B5 doing easily 400 M

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2015-03-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
On list could be educational for the rest of us. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Who's "you guys"? I didn't work here when these decisions were made. :) Some day maybe you can fill me in

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2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
7;t rock your world. We've all known that for a long time; that was the choice you guys made. *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
to trial. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > Pe ople have already ran it side by side with 450 and they

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
t; From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback There are also various ways to measure "working". The way WiMax "works" NLOS does not rock my world. I hope LTE

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
m: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback We wanted to do a test but stopped due to pricing. It is Alvarion-Style. Every mount, cable, ... seems to be golden. Every goodie is an upgrad

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
> Pe ople have already ran it side by side with 450 and they're buying Telrad. Anyone does a writeup of his comparison ?

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2015-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback We wanted to do a test but stopped due to pricing. It is Alvarion-Style. Every mount, cable, ... seems to be golden. Every goodie is an upgrade option. And as with other gear. 3 years from now it is old stuff. Our ROI is better doing smaller cells and use cheape

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
that however. *From:* Patrick Leary <mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. The hardwar

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Today's Topics: 1. Re: New feedback (Glen Waldrop) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 23:20:21 -0600 From: "Glen Waldrop" To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Message-ID: <559A42CC5A9145A39DFBEAFC8EED95C

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2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
04, 2015 12:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Tree density is seriously mixed. Some places it is ridiculous, 100+ year growth, old forests. Nearly half of my coverage area is over farmland (beef, catfish) so those places are usually an easy shot. The truly irritating

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
f-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Close, south of Tuscaloosa, west of Montgomery. Same basic geography though, hills, cows, fish and trees. Might be a redneck spread out amongst the trees. Might be

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback He's (glen) between ttown and Montgomery patrick Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Glen Waldrop" To: Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2015 11:10 PM

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2015-03-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
He's (glen) between ttown and Montgomery patrick Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Glen Waldrop" To: Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2015 11:10 PM Tree density is seriously mixed.Some places it is ridiculous, 1

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
M To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback The 15 number comes from rural area. I have some towers that can only hit a few homes. Of those few, some still have OTA TV and rotary phones. They have no need nor want for Internet. Don't get hung up on that. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
cKemie Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback "If" being the operative term. Until I personally test it, or I hear from other regulars on this list that are using it, it's pie in the sky to me. I'm not closed off to the idea, jus

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0560C.9516CC80]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Patrick's not here to make friends. He

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback The 15 number comes from rural area. I have some towers that can only hit a few homes. Of those few, some still have OTA TV and rotary phones. They have no need nor want for Internet. Don't get hung up on that. I'm looking at probably 4 of these strat

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
I'll call you tomorrow John. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0560C.1758B470]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

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2015-03-03 Thread Jason McKemie
;> I'm looking at probably 4 of these strategically placed in my network to >> cover any blind spots I might have over my coverage area. >> >> I'm not following, "capping"? >> >> Aside from that, this email came off more than a bit condesending.

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2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
uesday, March 03, 2015 10:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback I will say the patterns you posted for I think they were 65 degree Alpha sectors were very pretty indeed. From: Patrick Leary<mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM To: af@afmug.c

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2015-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
The people here don't get out much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:25:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback "If&

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2015-03-03 Thread Jason McKemie
> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -- > *From: *"Glen Waldrop" &g

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2015-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
ldrop" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:19:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback The 15 number comes from rural area. I have some towers that can only hit a few homes. Of those few, some still have OTA TV and rotary phones. They have no need nor want for Internet. Don&#

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread That One Guy
- > *From: *"Patrick Leary" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:41:57 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a > gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hard

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2015-03-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
cover any blind spots I might have over my coverage area. I'm not following, "capping"? Aside from that, this email came off more than a bit condesending. - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread John Woodfield
ug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Have not heard Delmarva in a while. I grew up in No VA. The run out east toward OC was a rite of passage...and my first ticket. Damned tricky MD state troopers; they used to run 18 wheelers.   If I do this in a webinar, would that work?   Patrick

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I will say the patterns you posted for I think they were 65 degree Alpha sectors were very pretty indeed. From: Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback I've examples of everything from an omni (11 dBi Alpha...pricey, but

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2015-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
There are no areas in Illinois that are that sparse. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "That One Guy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:56:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

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2015-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
1:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not consumer grade stuf

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2015-03-03 Thread Bill Prince
o:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not consumer gra

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2015-03-03 Thread TJ Trout
lto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 93

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
your range, you may quadruple the available market. Someone on the list posted a few days back about not going through granite. I assume even LTE can’t do that however. From: Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Alvarion did

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2015-03-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
> If I do this in a webinar, would that work? > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *John Woodfield > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015

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2015-03-03 Thread David Milholen
ug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM,

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2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
03, 2015 8:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback sometimes, in a rural area there are only 15 people who want internet in an area beyond dialup. I dont know what it is they are still even able to do on dialup, but there is still alot of it around here, i dont even know wher

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
nt: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback caveat that with lowest cost to get the full performance. when an omni comes out, you will have a lower cost, but you wont have full performance or range. skimming the material quickly, tho lowest configuration that

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
@01D055F5.3B217020]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Patrick, I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what the

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
No, could be much less. Give me a minute... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D055F5.E1039040]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New fe

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2015-03-03 Thread Josh Luthman
t; > > -Original Message- > From: "Patrick Leary" > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a > gimmick. The hardware i

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2015-03-03 Thread That One Guy
> > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Patrick Leary" > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > To: "af@afmug.com&quo

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread John Woodfield
ssage-From: "Patrick Leary" Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pmTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 t

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2015-03-03 Thread That One Guy
but this ain't a game or just > a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Wald

Re: [AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
b for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image004.png@01D055F2.351416E0]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New fe

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2015-03-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
ut of the question? - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If he wishes to identify himself, he

[AFMUG] New feedback

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Leary
This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If he wishes to identify himself, he will Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image003.png@01D055D9.2BA82B50] From: Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar Subject: