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In case you guys decide to make the save icon behavior configurable (I hope you
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*** Issue 101970 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
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And no: moving the cursor shouldn't trigger that.
In Calc, moving the cursor
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I prefer another solution.
The status of the Save button should depend not only on
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I can't tell exactly from discussion here where this issue is heading.
I am using
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Please roll back this change until the other option can be offered cleanly
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I can live with Save / Store, too. (Even if my favorite solution is the
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You still can get your blue/green/grey tri-state icon. There's nothing that
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Save - only enabled if document is modified
Store - always enabled if document
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Save - only enabled if document is modified
Store - always enabled if document
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After rethinking all the pros and cons I have to admit that my initial comment
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it would be interesting to hear why MSO 2007, Wordpefect 13, Photoshop, or
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Well, I claim that all those applications that permanently enable the save
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I claim that all those applications that permanently enable the save
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I think Kohei and Frank have made some wise statements. So for our issue the
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Since I didn't mention this explicitly above: Yes, I like the behaviour as it is
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Hmmm ... I forgot the smiley, it seems. The real thing I wanted to express is
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@mba:
If we never disabled the Save button - why should we disable any button? We
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Actually for the clipboard, we could use a callback from the clipboard for a
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@fs:
I am paranoid.
me too. :-)
I save often, very often.
me too. :-)
In fact,
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IMHO, just making Save function always enabled is considered regression.
If we
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I wouldn't say I use Ctrl-S most frequently, but I see your point here. But
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One application that disables the SAVE button is: Adobe Acrobat.
I addressed
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Well - every few seconds. That shortcut meanwhile is hard-wired somewhere in
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In the use case described by rakko_m and tora, the behaviour of OpenOffice is
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Scenario I
Steps Save icon button
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Scenario A
1. User A ) Opens a document file X on the file server.
2. User B)
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rajko_m:
BTW, argument that grayed out Save is good as indicator that file is not
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Marking anything else than the Save-icon is a great waste of everything.
1.)
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I won't be original:
A clear -1 for me, too!
cornouws@ wrote:
(About
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I think the option by default of OOo is greater of that of MsOffice, I like the
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I would like to propose leaving Save icon's behavior unchanged for now since
we
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The issue that triggered request for change was this:
I tested some other issue
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Current behavior of OpenOffice.org 2.4
Scenario I
Steps
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I've read all the comments.
- Indeed, I sometime miss what Kohei writes: save a
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A clear -1 for me, too!
I especially like the greyed out Save button. A lot of
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+1 for leaving the behaviour as it is. I have had numerous comments from
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Oops, should read Shame we can't put a minus vote on an issue ;)
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My personal preference is to keep the old behaviour. If the document has been
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No, the patch does not change the status of the modified flag, it just ignores
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I don't know it the patch is the culprit, but with OOo 2.4.0 the modified
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Sure, there obviously seems to be a bug in 2.4 with that file. But this is not
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@mba
if they have bad luck they might even contain the buggy patch that is attched
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I was also like mba and pmike and used the Save icon to check for the modified
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The corrected fix is available from cvs (revision 1.102.24.1 of objserv.cxx).
The
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Of course I didn't want my comment to be taken seriously (thus the Smiley). ;-)
You
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I'm one of the old users and I'm watching this topic for years (as you can see
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This enhancement will not be part of the Beta as the CWS missed the code freeze
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I think we have to test the new behavior in OOo 3.0 beta to get more than a gut
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This change has occured in the 2.4 release in Ubuntu and generated:
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Well, this would at least prevent that users will think that we are complete
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I don't like this change also but it seems that there was some common sense to
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Setting a modified flag, or any flag for view data change would require a
massive
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Also, if this helps...
I was also like mba and pmike and used the Save icon to
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This misses the point.
Users of OOo and all users of SO since more than ten years
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I think I've given enough justification, from competitive analysis point of view
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Well, it's hard to argue against many silent users that dislike the current
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Well, then maybe this proposal will be best solution: add *two* save buttons on
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@mba:
If this is the right thing to do it because that's what Excel does, why
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I had to change the patch a bit (there are still situations where SID_SAVEDOC
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Christian, did you do a competitive analysis?
It sounds strange to me to have a
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Christian, did you do a competitive analysis?
Yes. MSO 2007, Wordpefect 13, even
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@mba: The reason Save should be enabled is because the view data (such as the
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I'm not sure if this is a good idea. A lot of people take the state of the
Save
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Please always enable the save icon. This makes sense.
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s/go/do/g
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I also argue that disabling the Save operation when the document is not modified
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The attached patch always enables Save even when the document is not modified.
But
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