[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I saw on your sight you are a supporter of the efforts to tape board of ed meetings, hopefully to post them online. I agree, and wonder what the argument would be against doing this for Council meetings as

[AsburyPark] Re: NYT

2007-01-21 Thread rolemover
perfect!!! sell your place in asbury and move to keansburg dan.. a perfect place for trailor trash like you...you prove over and over that you really dont care about asbury, just your property value...you know you thought you were gonna buy low and sell high, well now your a bummin benny!!!

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
Frank it is interesting to me that you would make the distinction between saying THIS MAN'S WRITING is racist and homophobic and saying that THIS MAN is racaist and homophobic. Once on this board I tried to make a similar distinction. I said that Councilman JK made a typical Cracker response

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
First AsburyCouple, thank you so much for visiting the site. I just got back there after about a one month hiatus. Yes I do agree with you 100% about taping the council meetings. I can't believe in today's advanced technological age that all meetings aren't posted to the net. In Howell

[AsburyPark] Re: NYT

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perfect!!! sell your place in asbury and move to keansburg dan.. a perfect place for trailor trash like you...you prove over and over that you really dont care about asbury, just your property value...you know you

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
- -*bd of education meetings were taped in the past, has this practice stopped? this started because of franks post about an appointment of hopson, i also do not know him, but know frank is sincere , yet he as been asked several times who voted for this man, he has posted others yet

[AsburyPark] Re: AP Press on the Wonder Bar

2007-01-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Partners did get MM to sign and still held ownership of sometype to the retail, that does not sound like an organazation that is clueless. They get an experienced company to do the work, pay for the improvements

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I saw on your sight you are a supporter of the efforts to tape board of ed meetings, hopefully to post them online. I agree, and wonder what the argument would be against doing this for Council meetings as

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that due to your more affable personality as compared to mine, people will accept the explanation from you. I do, because I understand the disctinction intellectually, not just because of your amiable

[AsburyPark] Re: NYT

2007-01-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was an interesting column about Keansburg Dan. Some similarities to Asbury Park (particularly their choice in superior worker's comp attorney's :-)) but some differences too. I posted it because it mentioned

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
All board of ed meetings are taped just ask for a copy of the meetings A former board member

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
IS there a board of ed website that this could be posted on? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All board of ed meetings are taped just ask for a copy of the meetings A former board member Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Hi Folks, Just want say does Frank like anyone that is Black coming on the board of education, because I remembered when I applied for a vacant seat it was Garrett Frank that could not vote for me. But I didn't think they were racist I just thought they didn't want me on the board. But

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It must of killed Robert to do that, that's a team player. It could of turned into a Public nightmare if your fight went public. Like I said before make sure this guy doesn't elected. Do you think Giberson would

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely you jest, Tommy. I suspected you would accuse me of being Clintonian and arguing about what the meaning of is is. Clinton is one of my heroes, you know. Really Frank? One of your heroes? Which of these 3

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
There are several ways to read Frank's post below. One way is to say that Garrett didn't abide by some deal that was made against Hopson in the executive session. Even still, I don't understand how you paint Garrett poorly and speak glowingly of the other yes voters of Sanders, Brewington and

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Hey folks Just checking is there a such thing as being racist and straight-phobic? former board member

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several ways to read Frank's post below. One way is to say that Garrett didn't abide by some deal that was made against Hopson in the executive session. Even still, I don't understand how you paint

[AsburyPark] It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
Below is all I could find on Google related to Mr. Hopson. Nothing at all is either racist or homophobic. That doesn't mean there isn't anything to the accusations but given the serious nature of the claims I certainly hope someone actually provides some evidence behind them, or steps up and

Re: [AsburyPark] It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Asbury Couple, I totally agree with you, that is why I am concern about all the money being spent by the present board for administrators - acting superintendent $600.00 per day, Curriculum Director $500.00 per day and they have to pay Dr. Lewis as well. But who is paying the kids,

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I saw on your sight you are a supporter of the efforts to tape board of ed meetings, hopefully to post them online. I agree, and wonder what the argument would be against doing this for Council meetings as

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, his term is up in April. VOTE HIM OUT! PERIOD. Below is all I could find on Google related to Mr. Hopson. Nothing at all is either racist or homophobic. That doesn't mean there isn't anything to the

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: People, his term is up in April. VOTE HIM OUT! PERIOD. hey dog boy WHICH ONE?? Below is all I could find on Google related to Mr. Hopson.

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
It appears that there has been much greater damage to any rapport on the boe than just the addition of this one person. I sense a bitterness in these postings among the voting board members that might make it almost impossible for the boe to function properly regardness of Mr. Hopson

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
VOTE THEM ALL OUT LET THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER!!!

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
Here's an example of the impact a state takeover of the school systm can have to break the logjam and improve the results. By ANDY NEWMAN Published: August 8, 1996 Seven years into a state takeover of the Jersey City school system, students' scores on standardized tests are showing marked

[AsburyPark] New Process For Evaluating State School Takeover

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
School officials see new system; Evaluation focuses on accountability By DANIELLE SHAPIRO, Herald News, North Jersey Media Group Herald News (Passaic County, NJ) October 28, 2006 ATLANTIC CITY - The state Department of Education will change how it evaluates the overall performance of school

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are they're test scores today? Aren't they still in Jersey City? Here's an example of the impact a state takeover of the school systm can have to break the logjam and improve the results. By ANDY NEWMAN

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Just want say does Frank like anyone that is Black coming on the board of education, because I remembered when I applied for a vacant seat it was Garrett Frank that could not vote for me. But I didn't think they

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All board of ed meetings are taped just ask for a copy of the meetings A former board member The meetings are recorded on CD, no longer taped. Frank Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks Just checking is there a such thing as being racist and straight-phobic? former board member Of course that's possible. So is every other permutaion and combination. Frank

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
the only thing i would add is thank you frank for answering the questions, and when will the closed exec. minutes become public, i dont believe it should be too long, doesnt seem to be any litigation going on Concerning minutes of meetings: They are normally presented to the board at

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Frank, That's wonderful I'm glad she is an African American woman you could nominate.In my opinion I think there are board members who do not appreciate African American women or men if they don't go along with their opinions. Maybe it would be good to relieve the board of their

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Frank, Thank you again, I was just checking to see if there is anyone out there like that. Hmmm so I guess there is. Toni

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread asburycouple
Can't they be posted on the city's website? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, eorslady@ wrote: All board of ed meetings are taped just ask for a copy of the meetings A former board member The meetings

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Sorry you will have to ask Frank He would know if that is possible.

[AsburyPark] (no subject)

2007-01-21 Thread GG518
After taking the last 24 hours to digest all of this I am ready to speak. Lets start with the definition of racism. Belief in innate superiority of particular race,antagonism towards members of different race based on this belief. Taken from the Websters New Dictionary of the 2001

[AsburyPark] (no subject)

2007-01-21 Thread GG518
The first one was a draft and was sent by mistake the second one sent is final. GG

Re: [AsburyPark] (no subject)

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Mr. Giberson, Jr., I totally agree with every word except one what did Mr. Hopson do that was wrong? Because a Black Father spoke out concerning his son. You will not always agree on everything at any meeting but folks let's grow up. Toni Ross Former Board Member

[AsburyPark] Re: Help Lance and Debbie

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Hinge: I agree with you, on all points, but first, playing the Devil's Advocate; some posters have selective amnesia, when it comes to Asbury Park, what it was, what it is and what MOST of us, WISH it, to be! I am ALL FOR, SAVING, the Wonder Bar, just as I was about SAVING TILLIE, the CASINO and

[AsburyPark] Re: Another

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Dan, I realize your position and I respect it. Just glad that SOMEONE, knows just what the real deal, is. Thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: PS. Still waiting for that

[AsburyPark] Re: Another

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard oceanchuck@ wrote: im not taking either side, i know what from i see. it is a true fact that asbury partners dont live up to time lines and alwasy seem to find a

[AsburyPark] Re: Salvation Army

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Sad, is all I can say. Seems like everyone, has a bottom line! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com They need Salvation from Army By JUAN GONZALEZ DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Friday, January 19th, 2007 The

[AsburyPark] Re: What Preservation is All About

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
I echo Hinge's response. What a sad statement, yet, so profound! Wake up, People! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excerpt from a piece published in... New York Times - January 1, 2007 Folly's Antidote By ARTHUR M. SCHLESINGER Jr. MANY signs

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Tommy No I'm angry I did not accuse anyone of being a racist. I was asking a question of Garrett. If you think racism doesn't exist in good old Asbury Park think again. I'm angry that quite a few people are upset because a Black Father of children that are being cheated out of an

[AsburyPark] Re: Why Don't We Learn From Past Mistakes?

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
That would not only be worthy, but a noble cause. I say, let's do both! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reading, with interest and sadness, the mission being put forth to Save the Wonder Bar. Again, the point is missed, as it was during Save

[AsburyPark] Re: What Preservation is All About

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Please explore the history of this continent, before you start deciding who should, or shouldn't be here. From the Carolinas, through the Gulf and Pacific coasts, the Spaniards, settled all of this territory, prior to it becoming a part of the US. Prior to the Spaniards, the indigenous

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Board of Education sounds like a bad episode of MTV's The Real World, where teenagers sit around yelling at one another: You're a racist! No, you're a racist! No No, you're a homophobe! Funny, Tom, but you

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I think this Hopsin guy will see just that, the entire Board is for the kids. He seems like a guy with a short fuse. Type A, an easy guy to

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
That's funny, because when I visit New Orleans, prior to Katrina, there are 2 public, cable channels, devoted to show, not only school board meetings, but also, City Council meetings, Chamber of Commerce meetings, etc. The population of New Orleans, prior to Katrina, was over 500,000 residents.

[AsburyPark] Re: Taped Council Meetings

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
I have this information: To find out about all the events, programs, and happenings in Asbury Park Schools, visit the District's New Website: http://www.asburypark.k12.nj.us The new website, updated daily, is made available for parents, students and staff, to keep in-touch with the goings

[AsburyPark] Re: It's time for the state to take over

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Thank you for refreshing my memory. I don't know Mr. Hopson, but I was the parent, he is, now. He has a vested interest, in the physical development, of his 2 sons, and rightfully so. If he weren't in the home, he'd be called something else, a deadbeat dad, which he isn't. I've met Garrett

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread 2fine4u
Unfortunately, the sideshow, gets all the attention, until the tests scores come out, then it appears that the board isn't doing its' job, while the teachers who are tenured, get a get out of jail, free, card. If everyone, checked their egos at the door, maybe something could be achieved. Not

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unadulterated bullshit. Iknew you had in you Tommy. Attaboy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
Clearly I owe the group an apology for cursing. Last week I had my 11 year old and my 12 year old write me a 200 word essay on why cursing is bad (take one guess why that was necessary). I guess I should go back and read them again for me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread justifiedright
Toni with all due respect you are saying it again. You keep alleging people are against this man because he is a Black Father. You are not giving another reason why they might be against him other than being Black. That sure sounds like you are accusing them of racial prejudice to me. I

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
Tommy That's just my opinion I have not accused anyone of being racist. I have not seen anything Mr. Hopson has written using homophobic or racist comments. The problem I have it was said the board was going down because he was elected by the majority of the board. Toni

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call The Coaster they have the letters. Toni with all due respect you are saying it again. You keep alleging people are against this man because he is a Black Father. You are not giving another reason why

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Getting Angry Now

2007-01-21 Thread eorslady
I am calling it like I see it and now I am letting it go. I have right to call it like I See It. What reason would anyone say Mr. Hopson is a racist and homophobic because I haven't any of his writings that support that. I am done done Good Nite

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread mulletmanusa
There you go again Gary with your jealous rants. Jason Thomson triCitynews Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Jason

2007-01-21 Thread Gary Wien
Jason, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not jealous of Tri-City at all. The fact is that people have told me they put Dan's mantra of printing every letter to the test and their letters didn't get printed. As Tommy will attest, I really haven't read your paper in years. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Bait-and-Switch Betrayal and Strange, Strange Bedfellows

2007-01-21 Thread Jason Thomson
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I now you're wrong. There's nothing triCity won't print :-) There have been letters to the publisher that were not printed. I know of many people who didn't get in the issue. Tri City definitely doesn't print

[AsburyPark] Re: Jason

2007-01-21 Thread Jason Thomson
Gary, you're right, the new font does look great. I've taken the liberty of redesigning the inside of the paper as well as the cover. Maybe you should hire me so I can make your paper look better. First of all if someone sends in a letter that sucks or if we don't have the space or if it comes in