This is something I never understood about Asbury Partners. They
have so much invested in town yet seemed relaxed when it came to
improving the crime/prostitution/drug problem of the city. IMO,
unless those three factors change it's still going to be very
difficult to sell these new
Or maybe the truth is that they don't expect to have nightclubs
anywhere near those islands...
On Jun 1, 2007, at 3:48 PM, apoojo wrote:
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The new lights look inviting somehow. I'm sure Werner will have
issue with this
I don't put the blame on Asbury Partners for the crime; I do wonder
why it didn't seem to be that important to them. That's just the way
it looked to me over the past several years.
On Jun 1, 2007, at 4:11 PM, dfsavgny wrote:
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Unfortunately I think the city relies too much on old or traditional
marketing efforts and not enough with newer ideas. You're right in
that when used correctly online marketing is not only powerful but
gives you more bang for your buck.
On May 30, 2007, at 3:17 PM, oakdorf wrote:
I
That's the biggest problem in Asbury. Practically every building
that could have been restored was sold to the one company that could
care less about restoration.
On May 25, 2007, at 4:46 PM, dfsavgny wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I meant
So great apparently that even Tri City News now recognizes that music
just might be the best way to revitalize and bring people back to the
city!
I guess seeing a couple thousand people spending lots of money and
loving Asbury does wonders for your belief system.
It took them a while, but
Howard Johnson's reopens as The Salt Water Cafe.
Tiki Bar at Convention Hall reopens as The Well.
And coming soon, The Deep will reopen as The Waterfront Kantina.
Nice to see the people in charge are still marketing experts. Gotta
think changing the name every year does wonders for branding.
This weekend showed once again just how easy it would be to have
music play a vital role in Asbury Park's economy. Over 170 bands and
artists played throughout the town in around 18 different venues.
Cookman Avenue was one of the biggest winners with places like
Twisted Tree Cafe,
Madison Marquette Closes on $500M Fund
http://www.globest.com/news/909_911/gsrnortheast/160795-1.html
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Makes sense... Everybody who's done a horrible job in the Bush
Adminstration has somehow been honored. Might as well keep up the
tradition.
On May 16, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Michael W. Brim wrote:
Do They Stand with Bush, or with New Jersey
From the NJ GOPOn Wednesday May 30th President
On May 14, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Hinge wrote:
I wonder...do many people still in AP other myself, a few others
here and the remaining
club owners etc. even care that there is a viable music scene anymore?
I'm getting the impression that the majority could care less.
Am I wrong?
If anybody is interested in the Wave Gathering Festival you can find
out all of the information at two places:
1) www.wavegathering.com
2) www.upstagemagazine.com/wave
The Upstage Magazine Wave Preview has everything from band bios and
links to a customized schedule feature where
users
I'm not for raising the parks. I am for doing an underground garage
if possible.
On May 9, 2007, at 3:45 PM, dfsavgny wrote:
We don't need to start raising parks to provide more parking. It would
be foolish to go out and provide a few thousand spaces if you were not
sure you would need
Hinge,
Do you think you could still get a Victrola to work? My wife's
parents have one that looks in good shape but I have no idea when was
used last.
On May 8, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Hinge wrote:
I think my soundman career began when I was about 7 years old.
My parents had a Victrola in the
Charlie,
I think the two way will be much more dangerous for the summer. It
was very easy crossing the street to the boardwalk/beach when you
only have cars going one way. While many shore towns have two way
Ocean Avenues, several have to use crossing guards during the summer
to help
I'm not blaming you. I just don't see why one way was fine for
several decades yet now that there will be hundreds/thousands of
additional people living on Ocean Avenue, a two way street is safer
for them.
Seems a bit stupid and dangerous to me.
On May 8, 2007, at 6:30 PM, charlie
Hinge,
I'm with you on this one. I still don't see why they felt the need
to make it a two way street.
On May 7, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Hinge wrote:
I haven't seen what you are talking about, but i'll take a look.
There is no way angled spaces are gonna fit near the Stone Pony
though. There's
Do you really think there's not a parking problem now?
Cookman Ave on most nights is packed and hard to find spaces. Ocean
Ave during special events is packed and hard to find spaces. I've
seen events at Convention Hall take up nearly every space until the
Stone Pony lot (and some there
Neither building will be part of the upcoming Wave Festival. I guess
they're both closing soon. Anybody hear anything specific?
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The future of Internet radio is in immediate danger. Royalty rates
for webcasters have been drastically increased by a recent ruling
(about 300 - 1000% increase!) and are due to go into effect on May 15
(retroactive to Jan 1, 2006!). If the increased rates remain
unchanged, the majority of
On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Michael W. Brim wrote:
Greetings to all. This Friday is our first fund raiser of the year.
It will be held at the Wonder Bar on Friday at 5:30 PM. Tickets are
$25 for a buffet dinner and one drink. We will run a 50/50 and have
at least 5 gift baskets as
On Apr 14, 2007, at 1:57 PM, apoojo wrote:
good point but lets look at the entire picture, and i will state
again i am no fan of the partners, is it better to have a little mess
for some hokey birthday party, or have the area completed and spruced
up pre memorial day, to wait 2 weeks, might be
One thing about the Berkeley -- do not underestimate what the value
to Asbury Park would be to have a world-class hotel. The Empress
has done very good business, but a fixed up Berkeley (or a
completely new Berkeley) would be one of the anchors to bringing
people to town for extended
But, its agreeded that the pavillion would be better used for
a Real reason. But, do you really think anything would have been
done with that half of the Asbury Partners pavillion anyway?
highly doubted. It's being put to a functional use, compared to
nothing at all.
Are
On Apr 9, 2007, at 2:11 PM, charlie wrote:
Asbury Partners only chose that pavillion as their offices
because that was the past location of Ocean Mile.
Yeah, that was a good omen, wasn't it?
It was already set up. They did a few cosmetic changed and moved
right in. There are
No, I don't think the master plan' is to demolish ConHall.
The point is, that eventually it will deteriorate to a point where the
argument it will cost too much to fix begins to take hold. Whether
true or not.
That's exactly what I'm worried about. If you search the web you'll
find
I still think the city should fund a study of similar venues across
the state. Why is it that the state can support so many places like
the Count Basie Theatre, State Theatre, NJ PAC, SOPAC, BergenPAC --
places in north jersey, south jersey, central jersey -- but Asbury
Park's
On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:46 AM, oakdorf wrote:
Keep in mind, this was several years ago
There were problems there for years and years - since I recall - the
70's. Some concessions even escaped due to engineering defects. (A
nice way to break a lease).
It is a very, very old building,
Man, he booked some incredible shows in town.
On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:37 PM, oakdorf wrote:
--- I I'd try to bring back Jon Scher or have his staff take over.
The place would get going in a hurry.
Screw'em once to never return.
Take a look here. You should really appreciate it. A list of
Hinge,
But places like the Starland Ballroom have done incredible in today's
market. Convention Hall and Starland aren't too far apart in size.
The difference is that one has got state of the art equipment and the
other is falling apart.
On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Hinge wrote:
All I know is that the State Theatre in New Brunswick seems to do
very well with each of their shows as well. Many other venues the
same size as the Paramount are doing well in Jersey. Convention Hall
might be a bit harder, but if someone knew what they were doing they
could make it
No, I wasn't saying Tony P could bring them to Convention Hall
(you're right, he doesn't have to and loses out by doing so)
I was saying that if bands are willing to go from a 15,000 venue to a
2,500 venue then there apparently is a market for places like
Convention Hall if done right.
I agree with you on a lot of your points. As for concerts, I was
really thinking of Paramount Theatre rather than Convention Hall. CH
has had great shows in its history but it really isn't a great place
to see (or hear) a show. The Paramount is the same size as many of
the venues in
Chico is involved with booking the jazz acts at Mattison Park in Asbury
What happened to Chico Rouse?
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I'm actually taking my kids to see Sesame Street Live at the State
Theatre tomorrow. Just in children's entertainment, right now
currently touring the country are 3 different Sesame Streets, 2
different Thomas the Train, Dora, Diego, Blue's Clues, Bob the
Builder, the Doodlebops, Clifford.
On Apr 4, 2007, at 2:38 PM, charlie leonard wrote:
i knew someone would come up with something bad, over a potential
good thing. (not that your reasoning isnt good. it is. but i
wouldnt worry about it right now. if it makes a mess, they wil
clean it up.)
No offense, but that
Charlie,
I appreciate your optimism for the work of MM and hope that you are
right in thinking that Asbury Park is on the right path because
they're now in the picture. Just curious though... aren't you a
little disappointed or upset that there really hasn't been much made
of an
This is like the online version of Groundhog Day
On Mar 28, 2007, at 6:29 PM, mima4k wrote:
Sanjaya and his fauxhawk??
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I blame Sanjaya
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
--- In
On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:18 AM, dfsavgny wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The truth is, Asbury thought that building condos would solve all of
our problems, without
taking the time to realize that the problems in Asbury combined with
the real estate
On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Hinge wrote:
Gary and Werner,
In your opinion, why do you think Asbury would be negative about
supporting a music
scene in a town known for it?
There is a percentage of people who do not like the idea of Asbury
Park utilizing its past for whatever reasons.
been nice for them to see what we have to offer here.
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On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Hinge wrote:
Gary and Werner,
In your opinion, why do you think Asbury would be negative about
supporting a music
scene in a town known
On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Hinge wrote:
Not only that, but I honestly believe that making music a bigger
part of our city could also
help heal some of the divide between east and west. The black
community in AP has no
outlet at all for music. None. Zero. I find that sad.
EXACTLY!
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Hinge wrote:
I, for one don't think that TriCity has any power either. I think a
majority of the people
read it just to see what they'll say next. I would love to see a
newer more progressive
publication kick it to the curb.
Let's just say that some
Hinge,
We had a group trying to get a New Jersey Music Hall of Fame set up
in Asbury Park for several years. All we ran into was negativity
from the City and papers like Tri City.I agree with you that
Asbury Park could create an immense revenue stream from music and
from event
On Mar 23, 2007, at 3:04 PM, oakdorf wrote:
yea, it brings cash in.
Build a nex box and decorate it.
Have good music and hang the sign up.
People will come.
They've had design plans for the new Pony in the casino for years
haven't they?
Personally, I wish they would just build a
One of the originators of the Jersey Shore music scene, Bill
Chinnock, passed away on Wednesday. We have set up a tribute page
for Bill at:
http://www.asburymusic.com/billchinnock/
Fans and friends of his can post messages there.
Bill was not only a great musician and songwriter but a great
You've got to love the wisdom of people who think some should be
banned from the town for wanting to have Asbury Partners be held to a
timeline - to be accountable rather than let year after year waste by.
Yeah, I guess the only people who care about Asbury believe this
redevelopment plan
Judging from the news reports and the accounts of people like Werner
who were at the meeting, it seems as though Madison Marquette has a
different vision for the town than the direction it was heading.
Does this mean Asbury Park is headed back towards being a destination
and tourist
How funny is it that the people complaining were largely the ones
in favor of bringing Asbury Park back to
its former glory days as a tourist destination but we were always
shot down by those who wanted the town
to become just another residential shore area...
Common sense and marketing
Roley thinks he gets under people's skin with his personal attacks
but I think most everyone here just sort of feels sorry for him.
When he attacks me or the magazine, I know its not worth my time to
respond. He's not our target audience at all. We're looking for
people who know how to
On Feb 21, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Fred wrote:
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
It's not on the Citys Web-Site?
If it starts at 6pm then it's not on the city's website currently.
Jason,
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not jealous of Tri-City
at all. The fact is that people have told me they put Dan's mantra
of printing every letter to the test and their letters didn't get
printed. As Tommy will attest, I really haven't read your paper in
years. I
It's a shame that people like you are on the Council.
You've got a great way of proving your argument. Really classy.
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so, going by what was said, having residential come first. i
wouldnt have expected too much retail, or entertainment action taking
place till the very end. year 8-10 at the least.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't want at least a portion of the retail
and entertainment in place early on to
Debbie,
We've had around 250 people sign the petition in the first 15-20
hours or so. Name are from all over the country as well as a handful
of names from England.
If anyone is interested in signing the online petition, it's located at:
http://www.asburymusic.com/petition
-Gary
Gary, I have a flickr photo site that is viewed from all over the
world. With your permission, I would like to post a picture from
asburymusic.com with some notes asking others to sign the petition.
Thanks,
Glenn
I'm guessing you're talking about taking a screen shot, right?
Feel free to
If anybody wants to link to the online Wonder Bar petition, please do
so.
You may also use this graphic which we put up on our websites if you
want.
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This is just a question. What retail do you all think would be
benefical to Ocean and Kingsley?
I could see Kingsley being a nice restaurant row.
In fact, with the combination of Cookman Ave, Asbury Park could be a
great place to go out for dinner. Just look at Bradley Beach.
Werner,
I agree with you that the ideal thing would be to have the
redevelopment plan amended to make sure there are entertainment
districts in locations like where the Wonder Bar is located. The
main idea behind the petition is simply to show Asbury Partners that
the Wonder Bar is in a
I just heard from someone that the Berkeley-Carteret Hotel was sold and will be closed until November for rennovation. Does anyone know who bought the hotel?
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I wonder if they would be
On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Hinge wrote:
x-tad-biggerOk, so that Lenny guy thinks that Asbury is in the best condition it's been in 20 years./x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger That being said, let's list the things that have improved./x-tad-bigger
I can understand people believing that Asbury
He also sent an email to me.
On Sep 10, 2006, at 11:57 PM, dfsavgny wrote:
x-tad-bigger--- In /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger >/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger > ..and the asbury partners
On Aug 20, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Hinge wrote:
x-tad-biggerHere here. Asbury needs to be made safe and clean for the people that live here NOW. /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Cleaning up this city is paramount to it's future. Redevelopment is great in theory, but first /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger we need
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