Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
h his website looks like he did it himself and he is actually on the board of the peer-reviewed journal he says he has been published in... but there is a lot of data there. And a lot of actual names and phone numbers of people who have seen these patients. One wonders why it has not been publ

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
::Bow:: I stand corrected on the date of my example. I claim rhetorical excesses based on annoyance -- though I am a Start Trek fan too and have read afaik all of the books that particular episode always infuriated me. Dana On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:23:59 -0500, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
OK... Sam had already posted essentially the same as I just did This is getting a little scary. But sorry for the repetition. Dana On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:41 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You left out the most important part: > > http://pmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/75/88

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
I was just thinking -- I should probably add that the doctor who made that statement was in my view very caring and extremely competent. He visited me every day and ordered an extraordinary number of blood tests. He certainly didn't base his opinion on a 45 minute assessment. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I recently answered a telephone survey and one of the questions was "Race." I hate that question. For me, it is irrelevant -- Black, white, whatever -- I don't consider the fact that my skin is white to have any bearing on who I am. When I'm asked that on forms, I fill out "Jewish." I answered,

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
OK Larry. I see your quote and raise you the two paragraphs before it: "Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, raised questions about Hammesfahr's credibility by pointing out the state board of medicine had accused him of falsely advertising his treatment. This week, though, an administrative judge re

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Judith Dinowitz
One correction -- The episode in question was Turnabout Intruder and it aired in June of 1969. Star Trek (the original) was off the air by 1970. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68818.html Judith (Star Trek fan) - Original Message - Less of a > problem than the

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > good point. I just got back still haven't read any of the links so I > am not going to go further than that just now. > > > Do you also think it's Lacey Petersons fault she's dead because she > > should have gotten a divorce? > It's not a good point, at least not in this conversa

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
Much to my consternation :) I am on Sam's side here. The site is hardly fluff. It contains 22 separate videos and links to quite a number of thoughtful pieces on the very real issues this case presents to Catholic teaching. There are also links to articles in the secular media, some, I grant you, t

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
Good find, I'm going to look into this a lot more. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card) fyi the link below looks pretty authoritative for the

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
Sorry, I was careless in using a generic you. I think I am agreeing with you actually, though I don't see the long-term solution *substituting* for the short-term patch, just supplementing it. If that is not what you are saying. The denying the problem would be more here: From: Gruss Gott [mailto

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jon Austin
LOL, well I would have been your friend at school. I was (and still am) a big Garfield fan... On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:49:47 -0500, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) > > Ooooh - that's a quick way to make my shit-list. ;^) > > (Sorry... ba

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) Ooooh - that's a quick way to make my shit-list. ;^) (Sorry...

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
Jerry http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/28/schiavo/index.html I have no idea whether this represents a policy shift or not. But there is an account of the interview fwiw. Dana Schiavo's parents battle for guardianship They want son-in-law to divorce daughter Wednesday, September 29, 2004 Posted:

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jon Austin
I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:54:51 -0500, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She also won't touch canned cat food (her dish is full of dry) - she gets > enough sliced turkey and tuna from our sandwich making to offset that, but > she just won't touc

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
I don't try to deny the problem, however I'd rather we talk about how to fix the root problem. Affirmative Action is an attempt to patch something after the fact, we make it look like we are addressing the issue, when in fact we are keeping with the status quo. When we talk about race relations w

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
fyi the link below looks pretty authoritative for the legalities of AA http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/ Dana On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:57:37 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. I think I've created enough noise on this thread. Some of you make > some good points. I have made a

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
much as it pains me -- yes. Dana (coming back through this thread without skimming now) On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:04:51 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you support Jeb Bush's intervention in the case then I take it.

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
u besides the Humane Society? On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:03:57 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you clarify this before I go on a hunt? > > Do you mean "is there an animal rights org that doesn't believe in > extremism or hateful attacks"? > > I might have a fe

Re: It's been 24 days ...

2005-01-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
Bathing washes away the wards keeping the evil spirits at bay. -Kevin On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:26:30 -0600, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No bathing in there? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's custom

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
welll... affirmative action is intended to compensate for this. But yes, it would be better if neighborhoods were integrated, inner city schools weren't about institutionalization rather than education, and all children were challenged from an early age. Imho negative expections are a particularly

Re: Critter

2005-01-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
I did not give that to her, do not believe the lies of that lady. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:15:42 -0500, K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > or the messenger you caught me at :D > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:41:49 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wha

Re: Critter

2005-01-26 Thread K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV
k0rneliuz at Geee Male Dot Com or the messenger you caught me at :D On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:41:49 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's a good email to contact you on? > Thanks! > > Cheers, > Erika > > ~~~

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
no but here's what I HAVE seen... Windows programmer min 10 yrs experience, knowledge of microscopy, min 5 years in image processing, Visual Basic and some other stuff I can't remember... salary $23k. Or maybe it was $25. Point is, it was as low as it was so they could say that they were unable to

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
I'm not talking about that. I just said the stats were irrelevant, they are a national average that has no bearing on education or desire. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:06 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Who Doesn't D

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
I'm talking about the public education system, you go to a particular school based on where you live. Affirmative Action has no bearing on this. We need to fix the schools, and the communities. We need to start raising minorities that focus more on brain power and less on street power. I'm talki

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
worse, every minority and woman hired will be made to feel that they were hired because of their demographic status On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:30:46 -0500, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AA is at a minimum a prejudice program, a program where individuals are > favored over other individual

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Different groups entirely. The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by the Parliament of Sweden. The prizes for the sciences are awarded by the Swedish Academy of Science, much more prestigious. If you going to do a comparison at least get it right in the first place. Try researching the background a bit

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
I think Gel is entitled to be perturbed. I'm a little perturbed myself at hearing how women don't want good jobs. Telling him to chill out is, hmm, kinda rude. By the way the link about how many women CEOs there were did not work for me. My search on statistics women CEOs turned up the following,

Re: cf question :)

2005-01-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Haskell wrote: > for SQL server I don't think so It only goes back to 1700 something I > thinkI'vew been wrong before about SQL server though :) 1753 If the feasure for the validity of a certain date were whether it were supported in some application any date past 2000 would be an inval

Re: cf question :)

2005-01-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Haskell wrote: > for SQL server I don't think so It only goes back to 1700 something I > thinkI'vew been wrong before about SQL server though :) 1753 If the measure for the validity of a certain date were whether it were supported in some application any date past 2000 would be an inval

Humans 'may have saved world from ice age'

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/world/Full_Story/did-sgsAtWaxCKF0EsgTbBP-2fa91M.asp 24/01/05 Humans 'may have saved world from ice age' By John von Radowitz HUMANS may have unwittingly saved themselves from a looming ice age by interfering with the Earth's climate, according to a new study. The

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
Gruss, what experience is this that we are talking about? > There's not a problem and I know that from my own experience. > > If your question is, has all prejudice been eliminated, the answer is > no but it never will be. My point is that the problem is small enough > that, effectively, it does

Critter

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
What's a good email to contact you on? Thanks! Cheers, Erika ~| Get Instant Hacker Protection, Virus Detection, Antispam & Personal Firewall. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=62 Message: http://www.houseof

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
No because that's a national average. The average workplace here is very Hispanic. Dana On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:09:33 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lies, damn lies, statistics. What are these numbers put against. Overall > against all of America or by capita? Got a link sho

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Haskell
I'd have to do some hunting but if I recall correctly shortly after 9/11 when the gov't was find/shutting down terrorist funding PETA was brought up and made the list if I recall. If it was not on the list I remeber people talking about them... Adam H

Re: It's been 24 days ...

2005-01-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
No bathing in there? On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:45:40 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:52:53 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh well. > > So no one else, besides Jim and I, likes to enjoy the house they live in > > :P > > If I

Re: Bush Spending (WAS: Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate?)

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
wow. You mean like destruction of the Otero Mesa by oil rigs and opening up the Gila to logging? I must remember to write Mr Bush to thank him for that haze that's been hanging over Albuquerque Dana On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:12:43 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Dana wrote: > >

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
good point. I just got back still haven't read any of the links so I am not going to go further than that just now. > Do you also think it's Lacey Petersons fault she's dead because she > should have gotten a divorce? ~| Save $1

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
the courts usually do > The courts determined that the accusations that Shaivo beat his wife > were unfounded and were accordingly dismissed ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners

Re: cf question :)

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Haskell
for SQL server I don't think so It only goes back to 1700 something I thinkI'vew been wrong before about SQL server though :) Adam H On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:03:48 -0400, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Weeg wrote: > > 01/26/0222 > > > > is that a valid date. > > Yes. > >

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
Oh really, What proof do you have that Whites are being negatively impacted by Affirmative Action in appreciable numbers? -Gel -Original Message- From: Nick McClure And like was said before, those stats are irrelevant. ~~

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
I disagree. They weren't penalised by a horrible education system. They were penalised by the racist social stratification of American society. How do you intend to get 'real' education to minorities with the education system stacked against them? What are you going to use to effect that goal

Re: cf question :)

2005-01-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tony Weeg wrote: > 01/26/0222 > > is that a valid date. Yes. Jochem ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: h

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
...Oh and btw..A herring is a Fish. *sneaks off quietly* -Gel -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gel, chill the fuck out, ok? Your onslaught of replies in regards to the topic left me a little baffled as to the typing power you must possess to get

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
I think to have a blue bird you are either about to head into serious trouble, or you're doing something really freaky. I prefer tan birds.Although white doves are ok. Actually..don't mind black birds either. Come to think about it Asian Kiskidees are fine too...or how about a latin lark. Heck.

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
No. I do not agree with that inapplicable analogy. I agree that Racism exists in present day Corporate America, and in School Admissions and that the studies have shown that when AA is removed, minorities suffer terribly and are discriminated against as in the so called 'old' days. I agree that

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
Those individuals are relatively new in the US Economy, they are gaining very quickly. And like was said before, those stats are irrelevant. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Who Doesn'

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
Yes...she does cover both requirements for a Minority in the white house amazingly adequately doesn't she? There is actually no one else to have fulfilled that role in the White House so completely. How many other members of your Congress are Non White? How many Supreme court Judges are Minorit

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
Gel, one thing you keep talking about is Affirmative Action in corporate America. There is no Affirmative Action law for corporate America. Affirmative Action is something that only exists in the government funds world. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
I'm pretty sure I did, and Michael added in a statement that is even better. Not to sound like an after school special, but education is the key. The would-be minority CEOs of today were penalized by a horrible education system from decades ago, this system and the things many people had to go th

Re: It's been 24 days ...

2005-01-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:52:53 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well. > So no one else, besides Jim and I, likes to enjoy the house they live in > :P If I worked at home I probably wouldn't go out as much. I do enjoy the weekends when I don't even get dressed. Just wake

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > And in the absence of a cogent reply, you resort to being facetious. > > The attempt to appear to be part of a group with the same > ideology in the notion that this some how lends more credence > to such posturing also has no effect or bearing

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
gel. if we are such a bad country, with major problems in regards to race... how the heck does a black person, let alone a female, become the sec. of freakin' state? tw On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:20:03 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And in the absence of a cogent reply, you reso

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
And in the absence of a cogent reply, you resort to being facetious. The attempt to appear to be part of a group with the same ideology in the notion that this some how lends more credence to such posturing also has no effect or bearing on the points I have put forward. -Gel -Original Mess

RE: It's been 24 days ...

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
That's besides the point :P I know several of us here work from home :) And I also include weekend hermits in this question :) Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: William Bowen >>| >>| ermmm... many of us have jobs that requ

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
Gel. do you agree that if you introduce fuel to a fire, that it will continue? do you agree that if you remove fuel resources from a fire, that it will die? ok. AA = fuel Racism = fire can you not see that by discriminating against white males you are creating more fuel for a racist fire? i m

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What does that statement, or situation, have to do with > anything I spoke about with regards discrimination in the > workplace, or in school admission? > > It's totally a red herring. Red? WTF? Why not a blue one.. Or a black one. Mikey D what

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
Interesting. However irrelevant. The stats do not mention Whites and African Americans. It mentions Whites and NON Whites. This includes those Hispanics, Asians and Indians who, according to your claim, do not have a problem with reading and being educated and promote education and advancement

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
I'm sorry. But I don't agree that Non Whites who have been segregated, marginalised and discriminated against in the workplace or for school admissions are stupid. Feel free to have a different opinion. -Gel -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre Even Tango will toast to that l

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
No Tony. Ignoring your argument which is meant to have emotional appeal: Drive, determination,qualification in short MERIT, may guarantee a White person a job in corporate America, or admission into a top University, but the FACT is that it did NOT guarantee a Non White the same position or entr

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
What does that statement, or situation, have to do with anything I spoke about with regards discrimination in the workplace, or in school admission? It's totally a red herring. -Gel -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here here! Especially that last s

RE: remote reboot of server

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
My first thought is contact APC and ask them if there's a way around that pop-up. Otherwise, contact your server people and see about handling that login a different way. Write a quick app that will let you login using CF to send the info the Windows. Doesn't CF talk to NT Challenge/response? Che

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Even Tango will toast to that last statement :-) Michael T. Tangorre > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card) > > +10 >

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
> I'm not assuming anything.You said that there should be no government mandate > against human nature with regards to Racism. > Perhaps there is some impairment to your understanding of what that statement > truly means. no, i get the statement just fine. my biggest problem is this: if someon

Re: Will Spongebob make you gay?

2005-01-26 Thread Ray Champagne
Dumb as a sack of rusty hammers At 05:39 PM 1/26/2005, you wrote: >Smart as a box of hair... > > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:09:39 -0800, William Bowen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "sign" the pledge which, of course, will turn them completely, ragingly > > > homosexual. > > > > Or *gasp* tolerant

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
Winning one means nothing to me. Carters and Arafat each have one. I just know it means the world to Larry. :) Russel Madere wrote: > A nomination doesn't mean much except he impressed a congressman. If he > had won the prize I would be more impressed. I could be nominated for a > Nobel Prize.

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
I thought the parents believe she had a heart attack and it's just this one doctor that claims otherwise. Larry C. Lyons wrote: > The courts determined that the accusations that Shaivo beat his wife > were unfounded and were accordingly dismissed > > I find it very interesting that the parents b

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
Well the point is he waited around for a year before he mentioned her wishes. Coincidently a few weeks after the settlement. I just think that makes the whole case suspicous. > None of that should matter if she was willingly married to him - that > was her free will choice and it's not up to us to

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
+10 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:55:50 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here here! Especially that last statement. > > > A boy in elementary wore a shirt that said black power on it. :-| My > > friends daughter asked if she could wear a shirt that said white > > power. She

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Here here! Especially that last statement. > A boy in elementary wore a shirt that said black power on it. :-| My > friends daughter asked if she could wear a shirt that said white > power. She was told by the teacher it meant some thing different and > it was ok for the boy to wear the shirt. :-

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
The point of my post, and the weight of the evidence I put forward, is that Racism in America's workplace and School Admissions program is a significant problem for Non White advancement. The Why the percentages are so low is quite clearly because of racial prejudice in the marketplace. Given th

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
I'm not assuming anything.You said that there should be no government mandate against human nature with regards to Racism. Perhaps there is some impairment to your understanding of what that statement truly means. You are saying that if the nature of Caucasian America is to be racist and to sub

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Phill B
A boy in elementary wore a shirt that said black power on it. :-| My friends daughter asked if she could wear a shirt that said white power. She was told by the teacher it meant some thing different and it was ok for the boy to wear the shirt. :-| Am I missing some thing? Shouldn't the rules be th

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Angel wrote: > You're delusional if you think that Racism isn't still a problem > in the United States. > There are plenty of black and women CEOs, not to mention other roles you didn't mention. Here's some good info and links to put you at ease (note: these aren't exactly no-name companies!):

Re: Will Spongebob make you gay?

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Sauer
Smart as a box of hair... On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:09:39 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "sign" the pledge which, of course, will turn them completely, ragingly > > homosexual. > > Or *gasp* tolerant... > > I swear, sometimes these folks are as sharp as a sack of wet mice... >

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Oh, it's not just that. As Barak Obama said quite well at the DNC, there is a culture of ignorance within the African American community. Oh, I said something that's controversial but true. 'Bookworms' in a black communities are the targets, the ones who get beat down. Who gets respect? Not the edu

RE: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Russel Madere
A nomination doesn't mean much except he impressed a congressman. If he had won the prize I would be more impressed. I could be nominated for a Nobel Prize. I won't win one because my achievements are on a basic level. Russel Madere Webmaster 504.832.9835 SunShine Pages by EATEL www.sunshinepag

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > What if he's living with and engaged to another women that has two of > his children? > None of that should matter if she was willingly married to him - that was her free will choice and it's not up to us to judge or apply our morality. As to the rumor, there should be an investig

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The courts determined that the accusations that Shaivo beat his wife were unfounded and were accordingly dismissed I find it very interesting that the parents brought up that accusation only after they went to court, it was not in the original disposition. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:01:36 -0800, Sam

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so what? He was advocating an untried therapy with no data showing that it worked. Moreover getting nominated doesn't mean anything. Quite a few nominees have in the past tried to advance some fairly whacko ideas. Until it has undergone an IRB review, at least one double blind placebo controlled

Re: Ship Full of Kirks...

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Sauer
Hahah. I never thought of working there.. although that WOULD be a fun place to work (or would it?). I have ordered a few of their calendars though. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:13:03 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's excellent. Ever thought of getting a job at despair.com > htt

Re: Ship Full of Kirks...

2005-01-26 Thread Ben Doom
I can only think of one thing to say: SCOO! --Ben "not as barechested as Khan" Doom Scott Sauer wrote: > Here's another poster I whipped to express our angst at work. > This one shows your true geek pride while simultaneously stickin' it to da > Man. > It

RE: Site Critique

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Shit.. Sorry for the typo Sandy.. Sandy Clark :-) There... Spelled right now... Curse the person who keeps switching my keys around! Michael T. Tangorre > -Original Message- > From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:12 PM > To: CF-Comm

Re: remote reboot of server

2005-01-26 Thread Ben Doom
OMG -- I had a good idea. Somebody write this down! This is almost as cool as Jochem getting hammered by an errant email loop! :-) --Ben Phill B wrote: > I didn't even think of looking for an emulator. I'll dig one of those > up and see what I can do. > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:11:37 -050

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Nick McClure
Well, stats like that really don't mean anything. Racism is a problem, there is no doubt about that. It still happens, and in the backs of people's minds they think about stereotypes when they see somebody, is it right - no, will AA change that, I don't think so. My first question is what is the

Re: Boston: Sci-fi Marathon next month

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Sauer
Sci-Fi Marathon?! Doesn't it get difficult to run such a long race in a C3PO costume? Seems like chaffing would be an issue. Apparently not just an issue for runners in robot costumes, but runners in general!?!?! http://www.ontherun.com/clinic/messages/1132.htm On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:17:35 -050

Re: Ship Full of Kirks...

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that's excellent. Ever thought of getting a job at despair.com http://www.despair.com/)? larry On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:49:04 -0600, Scott Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's another poster I whipped to express our angst at work. > This one shows your true geek pride while simultaneously stic

Site Critique

2005-01-26 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Looking for some friendly feedback on my site design thus far (www.cfcoder.com/layout_test.cfm). I am using a modified Aura Template (www.leorex.com). The layout_test.cfm page is the only one that works. Thanks to Sandy Calrk for setting me straight on my CSS issues and explaining what was happenin

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Lies, damn lies, statistics. What are these numbers put against. Overall against all of America or by capita? Got a link showing where this is from so we can see their methodology. Trust me, I've done stats. I love stats and stats lie so well that you can't not believe them. Remember the election w

Re: That character from Sesame Street

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Sauer
The 12345...pinball was indeed on SS, though it may have been made by/for The Electric Company. At the beginning of the current shows they have celebrities recalling their favorite Sesame Street memories. Seth Green recalled the pinball machine. w00t. A small snippet of the Twiddle Bugs was on the

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
What if he's living with and engaged to another women that has two of his children? What if he never mentioned her so called wishes until a year later when $1.4 mill came into play? There is rumor the husband is responsible for her condition: Dr. Hammesfahr revealed that not only has Terri never

RE: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Angel Stewart
You're delusional if you think that Racism isn't still a problem in the United States. According to National US Census data in 2000, 89.5% of CEOs were White. 75.1% of Human Resource Managers were White, but only 72.8% of the entire working population of 137,668,735 in the US was White... And

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
Sound like the judge should recuse himself. Aren't you a big supporter of this nonsence called the Nobel Prize? Dr. Hammesfahr was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology in 1999 http://www.floridaneurologicalinstitute.com/ On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:24:21 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[E

Ship Full of Kirks...

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Sauer
Here's another poster I whipped to express our angst at work. This one shows your true geek pride while simultaneously stickin' it to da Man. It is 8" x 10", 100dpi and quite suitable for framing. :-) http://www.scottoons.com/images/shipFullOfKirks.jpg Enjoy. Scott ~~

Re: remote reboot of server

2005-01-26 Thread Phill B
I didn't even think of looking for an emulator. I'll dig one of those up and see what I can do. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:11:37 -0500, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. It would not surprise me if Blackberry had an emulator out there > -- most phone manufacturers make them. Failing that,

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > In this particular case the parents strike me as truthful and the > husband does not. To me, no matter what the case, the husband should decide - period. The woman chose to marry the guy and therefore he should have sole choice unless: 1.) there is a will that says otherwise, 2.

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Sam
Is this true or are you guessing? Did you read it somewhere? I don't know there names so I can't check it out. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:45 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those two doctors chosen by the Schindlers, one of which offered a > treatment that has no scientific or m

Re: Who Doesn't Discriminate? (WAS: playing the race card)

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Shrub made another emergency spending request yesterday. larry On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:55:01 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 80 billion more now, did you see that? > > > (1.) I used to think that, but I'm not so sure any more. Mr. Bush has > > the US involved in a quagmire, moneysuck w

Re: Supreme Court refuses to hear Shiavo case

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Those two doctors chosen by the Schindlers, one of which offered a treatment that has no scientific or medical merit - he was barely a step above a charlatan. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:37:34 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Understand this pea brain, your own article states: > "The diagnosis

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