The time has come for our company to get a new logo.
I put together a new one, one of the directors loved it, the other hated it.
The one that hated it has commissioned a Graphic Designer to produce our new
logo and we have had two pages of initial ideas back. I know which ones I
like, I know
The VUE cinema near me has a couple of it's screens that are exclusively
digital now and another couple that have both new and old technology site by
side, I think in total there are 6 screens with digital capabilities. About
4 months ago they hosted a halo tornament there (actually the regional
I LIKE 2, 5, 13 19
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Well my favourite is 2. 1 and 17 are nice too, although I'd change the
colour scheme on 1.
As for the other logos, read on!
Seeing as you aren't specialising in one type of disc (audio, dvd, games or
otherwise) I would steer clear of the logos that imply that you are an audio
based company only
11 and 12 are just abysmal. Sorry.
Please people don't appologise. I didn't design these and the person who
did is unlikely to be on this mailing list so I urge people to be blunt and
speak their mind. I have deliberately avoided telling you what my
preferences are so that you are not
hey guys
just did a little xslt/xml tutorial from MM.
was pretty sweet, but short.
i would like to learn ALOT more on how to do inserts, edits, deletes
on client-side transformations.
the tutorial just showed how to do a call loop over the results.
i want to learn how to drive a simple mompop
just bought 2 books on amazon
XSLT: Working with XML and HTML - Khun Yee Fung - $0.99
Essential XML Quick Reference: A Programmer's Reference to XML, XPath,
XSLT, XML Schema, SOAP, and More - Aaron Skonnard - $13.48
price was right
i don't want to shell out any cash.
just want to find info on Dishwashers.
since that's what i am buying myself for my birthday.
strange how our priorities change.
thanks!
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I enjoyed Phenomenon, but 2 things about it bothered me:
1) Kyra Sedgwick. She's not pretty, she's annoying. The sooner directors
realize this, the better.
2) It turned pretty quickly from a cool, alien-induced phenomenon
movieto a chick flick.
Great film...
Caught part of it on TV
Just judging from your list there Jerry, have you checked out some of the
early stuff by Mazzy Star?
I think you'd dig it.
For me, some women singing can change my mood instantly. Mrrow!
Mary Maulder - Midnight at the Oasis (due to the striptease by Rosario
Dawson in How I Made My
You know, until I read that you specialize in dvds and such, I would
have said #3. But, since you don't specialize in audio - I have to
agree that you should avoid those that scream audio.
Of the remaining, I think I like #17 the best - it's simple and clean.
13-16 don't feel integrated at all. I
I grew up listening to 80s and early 90s music, so anything like GnR,
Motley Crew, Poison, Aerosmith, etc I hear bring back memories here
and there.
On 8/2/05, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just judging from your list there Jerry, have you checked out some of the
early stuff by Mazzy Star?
I
For me, some women singing can change my mood instantly. Mrrow!
Mary Maulder - Midnight at the Oasis (due to the striptease by Rosario
Dawson in How I Made My First 10,000,000.)
Jerry (and anybody else)... if you want to hear a voice that will absolutely
make you melt...check out Renee
On 8/2/05, charlie griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me, some women singing can change my mood instantly. Mrrow!
Mary Maulder - Midnight at the Oasis (due to the striptease by Rosario
Dawson in How I Made My First 10,000,000.)
Jerry (and anybody else)... if you want to hear a
Sorry, not my cup of tea.. I respect her voice, but I just don't like
that kind of music.
On 8/2/05, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/2/05, charlie griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me, some women singing can change my mood instantly. Mrrow!
Mary Maulder - Midnight
heh, you must be around 29 like me Greg.
Open up and say Ah, Look what the Cat Dragged in, New Jersey, Dr. Feelgood,
Hysteria..then in 7th grade i discovered Appetite for Destruction.
Still think it's one of the 10 greatest albums of all time.
I grew up listening to 80s and early 90s
Yeah, I'll be 28 in a couple months. Appetite ruled. Rock in general
ruled back then. Now we are littered with this 'Pop' crap.. good thing
I just dawn some headphones here at work and enjoy some good music..
heh.. Listening to the Ozzy right now - No More Tears.
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2 and 5, given what you're selling :)
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Yeah, I do. What price range are you looking at?
- Jim
Paul Ihrig wrote:
i don't want to shell out any cash.
just want to find info on Dishwashers.
since that's what i am buying myself for my birthday.
strange how our priorities change.
thanks!
-paul
Umm..hello..
This is INSANE!
Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
On 8/1/05, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I can't listen to the clips from work, so I'll head to Strawberries at
lunch and see if they have it.
On 8/2/05, charlie griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jerry (and anybody else)... if you want to hear a voice that will absolutely
make you melt...check out Renee Olstead (self-titled CD).
Powerful lobby?
On 8/2/05, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm..hello..
This is INSANE!
Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
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I enjoyed Phenomenon, but 2 things about it bothered me:
1) Kyra Sedgwick. She's not pretty, she's annoying.
The sooner directors realize this, the better.
I don't consider her terribly attractive either -- but it didn't
bother me. I really wasn't concerned with her being sexy... she's
under 550
perferably cheaper, 350.
just would like stainless steel Interior. also would like
sterilization, but that may be to high a cost.
must have built in disposal
not sure
thanks!
-paul
On 8/2/05, Jim Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, I do. What price range are you looking at?
umm... okay... that's the first time I think I've heard a christ-myth
story described that way. Phenomenon really wasn't an alien movie in
any way other than the most superficial plot device... They needed an
event to change an ordinary man's life. The rest of the film is an
examination of
Gel wrote:
Umm..hello.. This is INSANE!
Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
Not to metion the fact that a toxic substance has gotten into our food
chain and nobody seems to think this is a big deal. Although maybe
that's a benefit of industrial pollution: it wigs
Well, fortunately, the Bush administration thinks it is perfectly
fine. You wouldn't want the power industry to lose profits (record
profits mind you) by having to meet the actual regulations, would you?
Also fortunately, there is a new Supreme Court nominee who believes
that the Fed gov has no
Consumer Reports' feature search for dishwashers is a little... um,
crappy, but putting in your price point with the stainless steel
interior and the self-cleaning (basically, a disposal as I understand
it), returns a bunch of $300-and-less Fridgidaire models. Some of the
model numbers are
Jerry wrote:
Well, fortunately, the Bush administration thinks it is perfectly
fine.
Mr. Bush and his Republican friends also felt there was a big shortage
of subsidizing energy producers but, by golly, the new energy bill
sure takes care of that!
Now keep in mind that while these subsidies
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Does the GOP insist on putting George Allen, jr. up as a spokesman, he's got
the personality and style of a brick.
He may be the only politician in DC who may be less bright than Bush.
Scott A. Stewart,
Web Application Developer
Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
14026 Thunderbolt
i know its not cf, but this i can use pretty
much for free, with out reling on the server
to support the data or server side tech.
How are you planning to use xsl for forms to update the site content
without using a back-end server? ...
I'm becoming more involved in XSLT as a medium for
It an it depends -
- If your primary focus is the area that you cover, #9 and 15 are
relevant (though 9 is my preference)
- If you're looking for a logo that will work in print, web and
embrioidery #12, 19, and 2 would be better - #19 would be my
preference there (nice and simple).
- Being a B2B
O.
i thought i could just build a form to update the xml data just using
post to write to the xml file?
i have only done 1 tutorial.
thought this would be possible?
just trying to learn some thing new out side my normal work stuff.
On 8/2/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i know
Bush is so dumb. His speakers are so dumb. All his republican supporters are
just soo dumb!!!
Man...the democrats must REALLY be idiots cuz they just keep getting
trounced by these dumb republicans. So the republicans are dumb, the
democrats are even dumber.what's a smart person to do?
Scott,
At least you did not have to suffer the twit when he was governor.
larry
On 8/2/05, SStewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the GOP insist on putting George Allen, jr. up as a spokesman, he's got
the personality and style of a brick.
He may be the only politician in DC who may be
Exactly!
On 8/2/05, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bush is so dumb. His speakers are so dumb. All his republican supporters are
just soo dumb!!!
Man...the democrats must REALLY be idiots cuz they just keep getting
trounced by these dumb republicans. So the republicans are dumb, the
And we have Howard Dean - yhaaa!!
--- On Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:43 AM, SStewart scribed: ---
Does the GOP insist on putting George Allen, jr. up as a spokesman,
he's got the personality and style of a brick.
He may be the only politician in DC who may be less bright than Bush.
O.
i thought i could just build a form to update the
xml data just using post to write to the xml file?
i have only done 1 tutorial.
thought this would be possible?
just trying to learn some thing new out side my
normal work stuff.
Well any XSL transformations are going to require an
The movie considered doing what you perceived, but then
changed directions
and decided to be a love story. They began exploring
people's reactions to
his abilities, its affects and ramifications. Then they
pulled a 180 and
discussed the CAUSE of the phenomen (completely
unnecessary) and
Most of these are better than any logo I'll see here. So with that,
I'll say that I really don't like: 4, 9, 10, 15, 16, 19.
So who's idea was it to name the company discs suck?
-Kevin
On 8/2/05, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The time has come for our company to get a new logo.
I put
Brian wrote:
Man...the democrats must REALLY be idiots cuz they just keep getting
trounced by these dumb republicans. So the republicans are dumb, the
democrats are even dumber.what's a smart person to do?
That's an often heard but specious argument because it assumes that
the voters
There's also another issue - Americans tend not to vote out a sitting president
in time of war (which is part of the reason why FDR won 4 terms). With all of
the drum pounding and talk of the 'war' on terror I think there were some
voters who wanted to retain the status quo.
Howie
--- On
But of all of FDR's reelections, only one, 1944, was a war time
election. The others all happened during peacetime.
larry
On 8/2/05, Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's also another issue - Americans tend not to vote out a sitting
president in time of war (which is part of the
Howie wrote:
Americans tend not to vote out a sitting president in time of war
Yeah that's a good point and I think that pulled a lot of people from
the base.
For example I have a few good friends that are rapid union guys (we
argue about it all of the time!). Up until the last election they
For some reason, your response reminded me of the Fawlty Towers episode
The Germans, with Basil constantly warning everyone Don't mention
'The War'! in the presence of the German Tourists staying at the
hotel... right before melting down, singing Deutschland Uber Alles and
doing his best
You don't think that WWII had an effect on the 1940 election? We were not
directly fighting but we were involved in the war before 1941.
Fall, 1940 - Battle of Britain. Germany tries to get Britain to surrender
before direct US involvement
Sept 1940 - US enacts draft bill
Sept 1940 -
Yeah I did who are you kidding... I remember when he got elected.. and most
people were saying It's because his daddy coached the Redskins
sas
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14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300
Chantilly, VA 20151
Love it. There's a better way to drink it, though. I was bored while
working behind the bar one night, and decided to use my friends as test
subjects for a new drink. Here's the recipe:
1 can B to the E
I shot of Stoli Razz
Splash of cranberry juice
Pour over ice, mix and enjoy! It has
This is just too funny.
Did you hear about the kid that died from drinking two gallons of
water in an hour? We should blame Bush for not ordering the FDA to put
warning labels an all faucets.
Now first rule of thumb, if it's sold in a can it's not that healthy!
In order to can food it needs to
I'd definitely ditto the 28 Days Later film. It was unique.
On 8/1/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there's been some really good ones in the past few years. Most of them
are one cable this week. Here's my list of recent movies to rent for a
night of modern zombie mayhem:
I agree with you - eating massive amounts of canned anything will get
you sick - I had a friend in college who actually got scurvy from a
similar diet. Although, not mercury poisoning.
Anyway, I did want to point out that cooking food at 2,000 degrees has,
along with nutritional loss, also
I was living in SW Virginia at the time, in Blackburg, VA. It was a
deadly combination in the area, pure bible belt with football worship.
But his term as governor ended I think that the only thing of note
he's done was weigh in on the Shiavo case and was against
transportation sales tax issue.
I get so disgusted with the fact that NoVa subsidizes the rest of the state and
we get little or no benefit from our own tax money
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you crazy fucker!
sounds good tho'
i'll be tryin it soon!
tw
On 8/2/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Love it. There's a better way to drink it, though. I was bored while
working behind the bar one night, and decided to use my friends as test
subjects for a new drink. Here's the
No arguments here. It would be supremely ironic if Northern Virginia
separated from the rest of the state. The Richmond and Tidewater areas
would have to figure out how to pay their own way.
larry
On 8/2/05, SStewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get so disgusted with the fact that NoVa subsidizes
Ooops, thanks for the correction :)
On 8/2/05, Jim Campbell wrote:
I agree with you - eating massive amounts of canned anything will get
you sick - I had a friend in college who actually got scurvy from a
similar diet. Although, not mercury poisoning.
Anyway, I did want to point out that
There was a referendum about 15 years ago that almost made it to a public vote,
whereby the counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudon, Prince William, Stafford,
the independent cities of Alexandria, Arlington, Falls Church and Vienna and I
believe Fauquier Counties would secede from the state of
we already have a Virginia and a West Virginia. Last thing we need is a
NORTH Virginia.
Geeesh, why can't you Virginianites get along? :)
No arguments here. It would be supremely ironic if Northern Virginia
separated from the rest of the state. The Richmond and Tidewater areas
would have to
I must have missed that one, given that I had just moved to the US
shortly before.
larry
On 8/2/05, SStewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was a referendum about 15 years ago that almost made it to a public
vote, whereby the counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudon, Prince William,
Stafford,
First Virginia separated from the rest of the country. Then West
Virginia separated from Virginia. Just repeating history.
larry
On 8/2/05, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we already have a Virginia and a West Virginia. Last thing we need is a
NORTH Virginia.
Geeesh, why can't you Virginianites
Sam wrote:
Now instead of thinking that Bush is being rapidly poisoning the
country, lets talk about the good.
It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab,
perch, anything. And it's not just if it's
It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab,
perch, anything. And it's not just if it's canned, the mercury is in
any part of any creature that lives in the water. Meaning tuna
steaks, sushi, Subway
For whatever reason, I can't seem to figure out a query.
I'm doing some transformation on data I'm transferring from Access into SQL
Server.
I have two tables - CityContacts and Cities. CityContacts contains fields -
CityAbbreviation and CityID (a new field that is null at this time) along
You're the one that made this political
Mr. Bush and his Republican friends also felt ...
And if you still don't think so, why just eat some tuna sushi and
you'll be blissfully ignorant to the Republican hand digging into your
wallet.
I read in an old book that you should avoid crustaceans
You ever see someone throw up vomit that's the exact same color as sparks after
a long night? :)
in the same lake you're swimming in? :(
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Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
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I read in an old book that you should avoid crustaceans anyway :)
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To: CF-Community
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For whatever reason, I can't seem to figure out a query.
I'm doing some
Brian wrote:
Ok, logic tells me that i'm probably not going to die from eating tuna fish,
and that this problem probably goes so far beyond one man, that holding him
accountable seems like an exercise in futility that would do little to
address the root cause of the problem.
As President,
Gruss, who was President in 1998 when the FDA decided to top testing
mercury levels in tuna in order to save money?
-Kevin
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters,
A common mistake. Crustacean is the geologic period when dinosaurs
were created and walked the earth with primitive man.
- Jim
Jerry Johnson wrote:
Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
On 8/2/05, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read in an old book that you should avoid crustaceans
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There have also been some amazing stinkers that have made it to
mainstream theaters. The recent Land of the Dead was bad and House of
the Dead was laughably horrible.
Shaun of the Dead though was one of the best films in general that
I've seen lately. A brilliant satire of modern life.
-Kevin
True, but...
The Clinton administration proposed reducing mercury emissions in
power plants by 90 percent by 2008. But, thinking he knew better, Bush
has decided to slow that wagon down and instead is proposing to reduce
those emissions by 70 percent by 2018
Sacramento Bee:
For five years,
hehehe
I was referring to his list:
Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab, perch, anything.
All are except the perch, which is nasty anyway.
On 8/2/05, Jerry Johnson wrote:
Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
On 8/2/05, Sam wrote:
I read in an old book that you should avoid
Wasn't that when the sleestacks were doing some genetic tinkering and
accidentally grabbed the homosapiens test tube instead of the dinosaur
one for brain improvement?
On 8/2/05, Jim Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A common mistake. Crustacean is the geologic period when dinosaurs
were
Sam wrote:
You're the one that made this political
That's true. However, I didn't make it political I just piled on, but
you're right.
My point is the toxins in Americans has gone down not up. You picked
one kid that over did the tuna and blamed the Bush admin.
The farm-raised fish
OK, your getting too far out there.
Someone queue up the twilight zone theme song :)
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
Let's us an analogy: let's say we got word that Al Quaeda had
introduced industrial pollution into our food chain. Would we say,
oh well, what can one person do?
Well, gosh, I hadn't thought of it that way. In fact, I'd
ventu
- Jim
Kevin Graeme wrote:
Wasn't that when the sleestacks were doing some genetic tinkering and
accidentally grabbed the homosapiens test tube instead of the dinosaur
one for brain improvement?
Kevin wrote:
Gruss, who was President in 1998 when the FDA decided to top testing
mercury levels in tuna in order to save money?
As I originally said, we should blame everyone who had a hand in it.
If Mr. Clinton did, then he should be held accountable. But blame is
not productive.
Mr.
Um
All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
Scallops, clams, oysters (and octopi) are mollusks
Lobsters and crab are crustaceans
On 8/2/05, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehehe
I was referring to his list:
Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab, perch, anything.
All
Gruss, I thought you were for small government.
Really, how can you expect the President (any of them) to make an issue of
Tuna mercury levels? That's like expecting the CEO of a company to walk
though the building looking for dirty corners so he can tell the janitors to
get a mop to clean it.
Sam wrote:
OK, your getting too far out there.
You must not understand my point which is:
Our food chain has had poison(s) introduced. Yet average Americans
and our government don't seem to care. Would we take the same
attitude if Al Quaeda had introduced the toxin?
I don't think we would.
OK, I agree.
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
I'm not blaming Mr. Bush for causing it, I'm blaming him for not doing
anything about it. And it's not limited to any one toxin - If our
food supply is being compromised then we should be taking steps to fix
that.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
Um
All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
Scallops, clams, oysters (and octopi) are mollusks
No, but he overrode policies set by previous administrations, he
choose cabinet posts that oversee such things, he bent over backwards
to give the energy industry anything it wanted (including letting them
write their own rules) and generally set a tone that made it clear he
would back the
Matthew wrote:
Really, how can you expect the President (any of them) to make an issue of
Tuna mercury levels?
I don't understand your point. One of the things the Federal gov't is
responsible for is national security. How are toxins in our food
chain not a national security issue?
I'm not
Then you should be scolding the FDA rather than the President.
Matthew Small
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:48 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
Matthew wrote:
Really, how can you expect the
You absolutely cannot say that this governments environmental policy
has not been directly shaped by the president. And you cannot say that
the current policies aren't directly affecting the mercury levels. Can
you?
He made an issue of the Terri Schiavo case. If he has the time and
compassion
ha! negative... but it sure sounds like fun... besides... fish f*ck in
that water... so do people.. and little children often drop a few
turds... what's some regurgitated sparks??
On 8/2/05, Jason Lemahieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You ever see someone throw up vomit that's the exact same color
I love zombie flicks
Put another shell in the shotgun, baby!
I love zombie flicks
Grab a cricket bat and crush some skulls!
--Ben and the Blackhearts (necrotic, you know) Doom
Jim Davis wrote:
And there's been some really good ones in the past few years. Most of them
are one cable this week.
Two very recent news articles:
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/living/12282010.htm
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/PreventiveCare/tb/1460?pfc=101spc=235
Hmmm...I wonder...
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Well silly me :)
I thought crustacean was just another word for shellfish.
On 8/2/05, Jerry Johnson wrote:
Um
All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
Scallops, clams, oysters (and octopi) are mollusks
Lobsters and crab are crustaceans
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:36 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
Gruss, I thought you were for small government.
Really, how can you expect the President (any of them) to make an issue
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:22 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I LOVE ZOMBIE MOVIES!
There have also been some amazing stinkers that have made it to
mainstream theaters. The recent Land of the Dead was bad and
bwahhaok, that's hilarious.
Two very recent news articles:
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/living/12282010.htm
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/PreventiveCare/tb/1460?pfc=101spc=235
Hmmm...I wonder...
Cause I am a complete nerd...
Crustacean is a class/subphylum of arthropods (insects, spiders, crustaceans)
Mullusks are a phylum, with classes including bivalves (oysters,
clams) and cephalopods (octopi)
On 8/2/05, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well silly me :)
I thought crustacean was just
Well, the scion migth not be very aerodynamic but it gets 34 mpg on
the highway which is nothing to sneeze at.
I was a bit disappointed in the element getting 24 but thats midpack
for minivans and awesome for an suv whichever one you think it is.
Its just bigger.
DRE
On 8/1/05, S. Isaac Dealey
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