Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
*chuckle* Provoke the people and reap the backlash. Just as France has done before the riots. Claiming there is no discrimination against muslims and legal immigrants in their country and then intentionally reposting an insulting article to do nothing more than further insult a people. Then

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
I want to see the shots and photos on Western television of Jesus humping Mary. They have been made, and were part of a political cartoon against George Bush. Why haven't these been publicised??? FREEDOM OF SPEECH! What is wrong with CNN talking about 'Respect' for Islam? FREEDOM OF SPEECH! I

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Ihrig
very nice. On 2/3/06, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to see the shots and photos on Western television of Jesus humping Mary. They have been made, and were part of a political cartoon against George Bush. Why haven't these been publicised??? FREEDOM OF SPEECH! What is wrong with

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread G
Whatever drugs you're onplease share. It would be nice to be this completely cluelessif even for a little while. Vivecyer nuts man. I want to see the shots and photos on Western television of Jesus humping Mary. They have been made, and were part of a political cartoon

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
ok, slice our brother's heads off, video tape it, send it to your fucking friends, and them have them send it to that tv network that is in cahoots with bin laden, ok, cool! reap the backlash... from a band of hoodlums. fuck them. wtf. fuck them. fuck them. fuck them. On 2/3/06, Vivec

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
oh and i forgot, all praise is due to allah, alahuh akbar... FUCK THEM! On 2/3/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, slice our brother's heads off, video tape it, send it to your fucking friends, and them have them send it to that tv network that is in cahoots with bin laden, ok, cool! reap

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Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
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Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread William Bowen
Everyone else just ignored you. :-p Bah! Not ignoring! Just trying to figure out how I can use this! it is indeed damn spiffy code. will -- If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yes, I see the balance. Post a picture and you deserve death. And the total BS about formal colonial masters is just a bit too far. Your telling me that Iran was colonized? Saudi Arabia was colonized? This isn't Africa we're talking about, this is an area where conquering hordes have fought

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Get off the crack. I see 'respect for Islam' almost every day on PBS. I see cartoons in papers using religious icons all the time. Your upset because they have not been shown on TV? Get off it. A cartoon, even one that pisses people off is not TV news. It's something that is left in a paper

?

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
tap tap this thing on? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195636 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe:

High Speed Chase in Houston

2006-02-03 Thread Adkins, Randy
Did anyone see this earlier? I just noticed it on CNN and watch the video clip http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/03/chase.shootout.ap/index.html ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195637 Archives:

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread G
Did you just tap two kegs?!?? Let's get ripped! tap tap this thing on? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195638 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription:

RE: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Scott Stewart
SQUUEEAALLL (feedback) sas Scott A. Stewart Webmaster/ Developer 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610 x 335 -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: ? tap tap

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
d'oh! 'tis on, would help if I knew how to use Thunderbird. back to your reg scheduled Friday. Ray Champagne wrote: tap tap this thing on? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195640 Archives:

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Chesty Puller
Not that I doubt that it is indeed spiffy, how in fact is it so? I don't understand why this complex-looking piece of sql abstraction is an improvement over either standard SQL or the object-relational database mapping scheme This is Issac's - I think it's more difficult to understand than

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
Former Colonial Masters refers to those countries that were...former Colonial Masters. I'm not wasting my time trying to show you how arrogant and provoking the entire thing is, because you just don't want to see it that way. As far as you and others on htis list are concerned, F*** all Muslims.

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
You miss the point. CNN did not show the images because of Respect for Islam. Can you explain that line? What does 'Respect For Islam mean? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195643 Archives:

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
THEY ARE FUCKING US GEL. how do you not see this? simply because we are the imperial fucking dynastical power? whatever, a stone throw is a stone throw whether i throw it at a wall or an ant. its a whirlwind of a vicious circle that is probably never going to end. but they are no more right

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
It means that they feared for their reporters lives, so they refused to publish the pictures (or even provide links). Much as CNN has been known to do in the past, they caved to appease the violent extremists. They respect the fact that the violent extremists WILL try to kill them if they print

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
i agree. why? i dont see the need. tw On 2/3/06, Chesty Puller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I doubt that it is indeed spiffy, how in fact is it so? I don't understand why this complex-looking piece of sql abstraction is an improvement over either standard SQL or the object-relational

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
im just thinking about how i can explain to gel, that WE COULD GIVE A FUCK what the freakin islamic jehadfucks think about us laughing at caricatures of muhammed, really, i just dont get it. we dont care. its more apathy than anything. its funny. who gives a fuck. On 2/3/06, Ray Champagne

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Gel, Where did anyone (besides Tony) say or even imply F*** all Muslims? Where did you get that? Aren't you reading into things a little much? Is there a reason you are so angry on this? Why do you need to lump us all together that way? I will say, F** all extremists Muslims who think it is ok

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Man, it's Friday, I hate my job (right now), LETS GET FUCKED UP! :) G wrote: Did you just tap two kegs?!?? Let's get ripped! tap tap this thing on? ~| Message:

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread G
As far as you and others on htis list are concerned, F*** all Muslims. *shrug* This line right here shows just how misinformed, misguided, and just plain WRONG you are..consistently. Calling someone who opposes terrorism a bigot because those terrorists happen to be Muslim. I take it

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Respect is a two way street My dad told me this once. Tony wrote: im just thinking about how i can explain to gel, that WE COULD GIVE A FUCK what the freakin islamic jehadfucks think about us laughing at caricatures of muhammed, really, i just dont get it. we dont care. its more

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Ihrig
tony i do care. it is the perception of the rest of the world on us. if that perception is worse then it curently is, we could be in for some serious problems. violence can pop up very quickly, in some very unlikly places. like downtown detroit. superbowl any body

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread G
agreed. I'm having a god i hate the world today kind of day. It's causing me to say nasty things to Gel, when i should be patting him on the head and feeding him rice cakes Man, it's Friday, I hate my job (right now), LETS GET FUCKED UP! :) G wrote: Did you just tap two kegs?!??

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
i like steelers for sure. pa lama luh is the man, big ben and the bus, hines, antwaan, they are poised to win this one!!! tw On 2/3/06, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tony i do care. it is the perception of the rest of the world on us. if that perception is worse then it curently is, we

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
There are 2 core issues here. 1. Islam's traditions of not depicting religious figures 2. Traditions of freedom of speech in the West. Where does one tradition supercede the other? It's a culture clash of heterogeneous western culture where one religion's edicts aren't absolute and a distancing

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
and ive never said, fuck all muslims, i would NEVER say that, i may have incorrectly implied that, but i would never say that. i say fuck all radical muslim fucks... thats all. tw On 2/3/06, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gel, Where did anyone (besides Tony) say or even imply F***

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad Gel, Where did anyone (besides Tony) say or even imply F*** all Muslims? For what it's worth I'm getting the same vibe

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
ok, i dont think it get much simpler: whats worse? 1. slicing an innocent civilians head off, video taping it, praising allah, and sending it out to the world? or 2. printing a freakin' cartoon caricature of a human, and not apologizing for it? tw On 2/3/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread G
if that's the vibe you are getting, then you should be reading more carefully. For what it's worth I'm getting the same vibe that Gel is. Perhaps it's not warranted but that's what I'm getting. Jim Davis ~| Message:

RE: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Why is it shocking? You tell someone to stop, they don't stop, we don't fire warning shots usually. We had a road block one time (called a traffic control point or TCP in Army speak) up the road half a mile was an Afghan National Army TCP. They had a car run through and lit it up, it headed

RE: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Actually I saw something like what you are asking for last night on Adult Swim as part of Moral Orel. Tim -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:00 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
Or it could mean that they see the value of Respect for Religion and people of different faiths. And just as they are sensitive about what they would post about Christians they are similarly sensitive of what they would post about Islam. Sure Re Freedom of Speech the Danish newspaper, French

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
I'm getting it too. On 2/3/06, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if that's the vibe you are getting, then you should be reading more carefully. For what it's worth I'm getting the same vibe that Gel is. Perhaps it's not warranted but that's what I'm getting. Jim Davis

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
And that position is prejudiced and bigoted against ***all Muslims***. It is the same position the Nazis had against the Jews. We could not give a flying f*** about them. That's how it starts. It starts from Intolerance, it starts from Apathy, it starts from Contempt. This does not only offend

Re: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
My body Evan was part of an IED attack where the guy brought his wife and two kids, didn't tell them anything, killed his whole family. What's an IED attack? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195665

RE: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
I prefer data access objects, specific getters and setters as part of my object. By specifying columns and datatypes and so on, you get better performing queies. Tim -Original Message- From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:30 AM To:

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread G
Well, inspite of the I'm more religious tolerant than you are implication, this was a good post. And you are right, I don't think the paper should have published the cartoons. The Muslim world should have responded. Should they have responded with guns? No. Our point is simply that those who

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Jim, What do you feel a proper reaction should be to this blasphemy? Do you think killing, shooting, kidnapping, threatening, destroying property are valid responses? Do you think this is a normal response? Do you think, overall, it should be a tolerated response? Do you think most Muslims agree

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Chesty Puller
I completely agree with you, Gel, on both the subject of the matter and in the matter that Trinidad is indeed ahead of the US and many parts of the world with respect to religious embrace. I remember this from the time I spent there as a young man. I remember a lot of beautiful women in

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
I'm sure a lot more people are, but Gel is the most vocal. Whereas a lot of lurkers to the list prefer to shut up in the face of belligerent opposition. I'm not going to repost the exact quotes that show why reasoning individuals would be getting that impression, but Tony posted something in a

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Chesty Puller
That means you agree with me, doesn't it? Question for you - do you have a getter and setter for every property of an object, or just those that really need one? - Matt - Original Message - From: Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday,

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
I will say it. Fuck all real Muslims. The image of the moderate Muslim is no more real than the christian american. The moderate Muslim does not generally follow his religion, so I don't have a problem with him. If you are a real follower of Islam though, fuck you. BTW I feel this way about

RE: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Scott Stewart
But why should we give any respect to the Jihadists and extremists? Their warped interpretation of Islam says that they should destroy all of us. That includes you Gel I'm all for respecting other's religious beliefs, as long as they don't entail the destruction of others Scott A. Stewart

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
I liked it because it fit his coding model. I didn't see it as something to apply universally, but it was an interesting new way to think about writing queries so that they fit an approach you're already using for other code. I like your objectmapper too. On 2/3/06, Chesty Puller [EMAIL

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad ok, i dont think it get much simpler: whats worse? 1. slicing an innocent civilians head off, video taping it, praising allah,

6 Alabama churches burnt in the US

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/03/alabama.churchfires.ap/index.html CENTREVILLLE, Alabama (AP) -- A series of fires damaged six rural Alabama churches overnight, and investigators Friday were trying to determine whether they were arson. Most of the churches were Baptist, located near major

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
then i guess they need to step up as law abiding muslims and control their uncontrolled peoples, right? if we had citizens doing this neck slicing and other stuff, we would apprehend, stop, and move on. they do not do this. they run scared, and praise allah. so, yes, to those apathetic fucks,

RE: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Improvised Explosive Device. Suicide or roadside Bombing. Tim -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning. My body

RE: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Just those that really need one. Generally I find I can set them together upon object creation, and only some of them will be changing at points after object creation. BTW yes I agree with you. Seems like too much abstraction to me personally. Why not use cfinsert and cfupdate? Tim

Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- A conservative advocacy group that urged a boycott of NBC's recently canceled drama about a pill-popping priest turned its wrath Thursday to an upcoming Will Grace episode that it says will mock Christ's crucifixion. But NBC executives insist the group's

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
1. Muslim nations are as much colonial masters as any European has ever been. 2. Most Muslim lands have never been under 'colonial mastery' Using a general term like colonial masters in a conversation that has nothing to do with colonialism is just disguising the subject. As for arrogant and

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
And that position is prejudiced and bigoted against ***all Muslims***. This does not only offend the jihadists and the extremists.Those groups are whom the world Media is focusing on , because that's what sells their papers and gets people watching. But believe me the cartoon was offensive to

Re: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Oh. Thanks. I think. That's fucked up. Loathe wrote: Improvised Explosive Device. Suicide or roadside Bombing. Tim -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: FW: American Soldiers

Re: 6 Alabama churches burnt in the US

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
investigators Friday were trying to determine whether they were arson. Smart bunch they are down there in AL, eh? Do they just think it could be coincidence? ~| Message:

RE: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Oh, Please... I'm not giving some maniac with a warped take on religion any respect, regardless of who the hell he is. Scott A. Stewart Webmaster/ Developer 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610 x 335 -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
You can't boycott Muslim Nations. Your society would crumble. No one stated that the reverse is not equally offensive, and incorrect. You seem to be arguing that two wrongs make a right. On 2/3/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for arrogant and provoking, your being totally one

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
The news outlet being protested against showed comics. Al Jezeera shows beheadings of our soldiers, shows all kinds of shit. Which is worse man? Tim -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The cartoons are from September. It's only an issue because of boycotts and threats of death. If there were no threats, there would be no issue. Jews and Christians don't threaten death when cartoons against them are posted so there's never an issue. Again, look in Arab newspapers to see what

Re: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
IED is such a funny term. I knew what it meant, but it's funny that non-corporate produced weapons are designated by a special TLA. On 2/3/06, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Improvised Explosive Device. Suicide or roadside Bombing. Tim

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
On 2/3/06, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or it could mean that they see the value of Respect for Religion and people of different faiths. And just as they are sensitive about what they would post about Christians they are similarly sensitive of what they would post about Islam. Sure Re

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Gel, I agree that the cartoon was offensive. Even maybe deliberately offensive. I agree that the editorial decision to run the article (including the images) needs to be discussed to see if it was too far over the line. I don't agree that the publisher should have been fired, but I don't mind

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Huh?? WTf?? They pulled a show because it was Offensive to Christians? What's up with Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Speech and all that? Why didn't they show this series? Because it wasn't good for business. It has nothing to do with the Freedom of Press. They had, and still do have,

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad Jim, What do you feel a proper reaction should be to this blasphemy? I don't know. Honestly. This isn't blasphemy to me

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
the religious right is STRONG here brah. tw On 2/3/06, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- A conservative advocacy group that urged a boycott of NBC's recently canceled drama about a pill-popping priest turned its wrath Thursday to an upcoming Will Grace

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Money. Without sponsors there is no show and a boycott from a large and influential group can scare away sponsors even if there is no threat of violence. For example, the boycott against the pictures is costing a huge amount of money. Money speaks and moves more than violence. NBC, a unit of

Re: ?

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
And that position is prejudiced and bigoted against ***all Muslims***. It's sad that you cannot seperate between extremists and Muslims. I wonder if you have the same point of view for those that burn churches, and hang negroes in the name of God and white christian power? Or do you clearly

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread G
Huh?? WTf?? They pulled a show because it was Offensive to Christians? What's up with Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Speech and all that? Why didn't they show this series? Welcome back Crazy Gel. Christians have every right to try and boycott this if they want too. When the radical

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread G
They gave you a gun? Yikes. I will say it. Fuck all real Muslims. The image of the moderate Muslim is no more real than the christian american. The moderate Muslim does not generally follow his religion, so I don't have a problem with him. If you are a real follower of Islam though,

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: More on the Mohammad The news outlet being protested against showed comics. Al Jezeera shows beheadings of our soldiers, shows all kinds of shit.

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
why not just use cfquery? On 2/3/06, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use cfinsert and cfupdate? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195700 Archives:

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
This is the first time you have ever admitted in this thread that the cartoon was offensive. I do not promote nor do I agree with the violent response by extreme individuals in various countries. However I also do not promote the prejudice, intolerance and bigotry displayed by many against

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Because, as a business, they decided that the bad press from the protests would outway the economic benefit from running it. It is all about the money. Is it fair? Nope. The question is: Did the shows get run at all or was it removed by the government (that is freedom of the press) An

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
You seem to be having a problem seperating support for respect for religion, and acknowledgement that something is offensive with supporting violent protest. On 2/3/06, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christians have every right to try and boycott this if they want too. When the radical Christians,

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
No, I'm arguing that the responses are different and the response on one side is just far too extreme. Both the west and the Muslim world publish pictures that by accident or design offend the other. I don't see threats of violence or boycotts against the Muslim world over a cartoon. BTW, a

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
+200 On 2/3/06, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christians have every right to try and boycott this if they want too. When the radical Christians, dressed in masks with guns, take over the NBC studios and demand an apology...then I'll revisit this.

RE: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
No, what I am saying is if you are going to abstract your queries to that point why not use the tags that were built for it. It's was rhetorical, I hate those tags. Tim -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:19 PM To: CF-Community

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
You seem to be mistaking support for respect for religion, tolerance, and recognising something as being offensive to an entire religion with support for violence. These are two seperate issues. On 2/3/06, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An ancillary question is: how many bombings,

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Vivec
I don't see threats of violence or boycotts against the Muslim world over a cartoon. BTW, a boycott is still a civil response no matter how ill-thought-out it is. threats of murder isn't. Agreed. On 2/3/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm arguing that the responses are

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And that boys and girls is what scares the shit out of me and many other people. The news outlet being protested against showed comics. Al Jezeera shows beheadings of our soldiers, shows all kinds of shit. Which is worse man? From your cultural viewpoint, the latter is worse. From other

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Gel, it has nothing to do with religion in this case! I see you chose to ignore the other 5 responses that didn't support your witch-hunt, this is about MONEY, not religion. You are fast approaching troll status, my friend. Vivec wrote: You seem to be having a problem seperating support for

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Yeah man, how is a cartoon culturally ever less acceptable than beheading a hostage? Tim -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:29 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad And that boys and girls is what

Re: Conservative Christian Group Protests NBC

2006-02-03 Thread G
Not really. It's this simple, isn't it? - You should have respect for other people's religious viewpoints. - If something is offensive to another people's religion, you should try to avoid it if reasonable. - It is offensive to intentionally do something that you know is offensive to someone

Re: FW: American Soldiers fire on Canadian Diplomats without warning.

2006-02-03 Thread Robert Munn
That is messed up. It reminds me of the story early on in the war where a pregnant woman was blown up in a car at a checkpoint, and it turned out she was an Iraqi Army colonel who had planned the attack on the checkpoint. Sick. My body Evan was part of an IED attack where the guy brought his

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Tony
human fucking death and cartoons are similar in your brain. WOAH! On 2/3/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: More on the Mohammad The news

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: More on the Mohammad Yeah man, how is a cartoon culturally ever less acceptable than beheading a hostage? Human life has VERY often been less valued

Re: B-E-A-UTIFUL!

2006-02-03 Thread DRE
I think its pretty cool because I bet it works for oracle, mysql, sql2000, access etc without changing a line of code- no small feat. Join syntax for all those can vary vary. I do find the syntax a bit unintuitive but I find that most of the code I see is unintuitive. DRE On 2/3/06, Loathe

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad human fucking death and cartoons are similar in your brain. WOAH! No. Perhaps I need to be even more specific: I'm not part of

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
I am saying that we have advanced past that point. If other parts of the world have not, that's their problem. Tim -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:39 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: More on the Mohammad

Re: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
But should I accept that? Should I cater to it? Or should I push back against it? (In a non-violent way) On 2/3/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

Re: Palestinian government allows terrorists to close down EU offices.

2006-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
The argument They do it too is EXACTLY the point of this whole argument. EVERYONE publishes cartoons offensive to someone else. That is the very nature if a political cartoon. Often, that is the PURPOSE of a political cartoon. EVERYONE eventually finds something outrageously offensive. The

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Several. Tim -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad They gave you a gun? Yikes. I will say it. Fuck all real Muslims. The image of the moderate Muslim is no

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:46 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: More on the Mohammad I am saying that we have advanced past that point. If other parts of the world have not, that's their problem. On a

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Loathe
Or more so than you think. We don't have entire villages burning people, lynching people. They still do this in places where the laws of Sharia are followed. Listen, don't take this the wrong way, but until you have seen how people in islamic countries actually live, nothing you say is going to

RE: More on the Mohammad

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: More on the Mohammad But should I accept that? Should I cater to it? Or should I push back against it? (In a non-violent way) I never said it

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