Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
I created a query that selects the user ID adn user name from the table but it only shows me one name in the combo box. I am sure that I am missing a setting somewhere. Do you want the combo to show names but in actuality return the user id? If so, do the following: Create your source for the

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
It not a matter of whether or not they have permission to build a church, its a matter of who is going to pay for it. And when they can build it. By moving, they can rebuild sooner. By not moving, they will need to wait, even though it is their land. J - Experience hath shewn, that even

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
OK, so I did this and the combo box shows all of the names now. My query has an ORDER BY clause but it is not ordering by the name, it is showing the names as they are put into the table. Also, when I select a name, the rest of the fields in the form do not change to reflect the information

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Give me one valid reason, and I'll retract my criticism. One does not have to have a valid reason to have an opinion. An informed opinion yes, but opinion, no. Just because one has an uninformed opinion does not make one an idiot. President Obama stated his uninformed opinion on the Henry

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
OK, so I did this and the combo box shows all of the names now. My query has an ORDER BY clause but it is not ordering by the name, it is showing the names as they are put into the table. Also, when I select a name, the rest of the fields in the form do not change to reflect the information for

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Typical response of all liberals and progressives.   We know what is best for everyone. Well, that is no more annoying than the conservatives who only care about what is best for themselves. :D -- Scott Stroz

RE: I resign today!

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Raley
Not to Georgia! -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I resign today! WTF where you going? On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Scott Raley sra...@itc-llc.com wrote: Wish me luck because

RE: I resign today!

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Raley
Played the field yesterday to get a feeling if I wanted to stay or leave and will finish that up today (hopefully) so I can make my final decision. -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I resign

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
Cool, I was able to get the control to change the form fields to the information pertaining to that person. Now I have to figure out how to add a new record-set. When I hit the add new record button on the bottom it wont let me add a new name. Ill Google that and see what I am missing.

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Me, of course :) Typical response of all liberals and progressives. We know what is best for everyone. Oops! I'm neither! Nice try. -- No matter how close to yours another's steps have grown In the end there is

E-mail Solutions?

2010-08-18 Thread ColdFusion Developer
Using an iPhone and browser for all email traffic, what do you consider is better? Google Apps(Exchange?) -Postini Filtering custom settings - $50/ per/user per/year GMail (IMAP) - (not sure what filtering engine is used) - free (also can redirect mail to GMail from another account) -

Blackberry spam software

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Raley
Anyone have experience with any blackberry email spam software? or recommendations other than searching app world and going through all the hundreds of results I get from a search. I don't care about phone call spam blocking, just email.

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
I am not sure I understand your point. The Greek Orthodox church in question is not being asked to re-build at a different location. To me, this snippet shows how unrelated this issue is to the mosque issue: The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
Movie recommendation: Idiocracy. It's not the best movie but the theme is that stupid people massively outbreed smart people. You'll find it in the comedy section, but I always thought it deserved to be in horror. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Cool, I was able to get the control to change the form fields to the information pertaining to that person. Now I have to figure out how to add a new record-set. When I hit the add new record button on the bottom it wont let me add a new name. Ill Google that and see what I am missing. Thanks for

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Yes. Nobody, sans-Jerry, thinks they should not be allowed to build. Which Jerry? I think they have the right to build, just to clarify. I don't think it's a good idea. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Well, that is no more annoying than the conservatives who only care about what is best for themselves. :D That would probably be libertarians. Leave me alone and I'll take care of myself. By conservatives, you probably mean, what's good for big business. J - Experience hath shewn, that even

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
exactly, I was caught between laughing and crying about the plot. On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: Movie recommendation: Idiocracy. It's not the best movie but the theme is that stupid people massively outbreed smart people. You'll find it in the comedy section, but I always

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that is no more annoying than the conservatives who only care about what is best for themselves. :D That would probably be libertarians.  Leave me alone and I'll take care of myself. You make it seem like that

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
I am not sure I understand your point. The Greek Orthodox church in question is not being asked to re-build at a different location. The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building, The

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
You make it seem like that is a bad thing. I see nothing wrong with the 'you leave me alone, I will leave you alone' attitude. Not my intention. I am a full on believer in this point of view. Is there a difference between conservatives only caring about themselves and only caring about big

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
I must be blind, because I saw nothing in that article that says the church has to wait for other work to be done before they can proceed. Even if they had to wait, they are not being told they are not welcome or being asked to go elsewhere. Again, these two issues are completely unrelated. The

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
I'm getting closer. Navigation works well except that the name in the combo box does not change. All of my data is on one table and there is not a record control source either. It is blank. And the search combo box is fed by a query that selects the ID and name from the table, so I guess it

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Well don't take this personally because you seem like an intelligent person. It's just that almost everything you post here is stupid. It's the content. I was insulted several times before I insulted back. But your stupid posts can't recognize that. Great that you keep archives, sad that you

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
You mis-quoted the document. I wasn't sure if you felt that way or it was a simple error. As for this thread you were the only one that made the statement and people kept referring to it so I was pointing that out. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Yes.

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Liberalism isn't just about who you vote for. It's also about how you attack people with different opinions. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Me, of course :) Typical response of

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
The issue is the city is moving at mock speed to approve a brand new mosque/ center while stalling the reconstruction of a Church. I think the point is if this was a mosque instead of a church there would have been outrage years ago and you would be singing the opposite tune. On Wed, Aug 18,

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
The same could be said of conservatism. With a fair deal more accuracy if what I've seen of Rush is any indication. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:19 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports

Re: I resign today!

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hey there are a lot of CF positions open up in the Washington DC area FWIW. Since I resigned my last position, I've been getting a lot of recruiter calls. larry On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Scott Raley sra...@itc-llc.com wrote: Played the field yesterday to get a feeling if I wanted to

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Fair play to you. But in his defense, he's always called the nastiest things first. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: The same could be said of conservatism. With a fair deal more accuracy if what I've seen of Rush is any indication.

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
For the record thinking that 70% of the country opposes the mosque because that's what the news said isn't bigotry. I hesitate to call poll results facts (they're too easy to manipulate in my opinion) but a lot of the time they're the closest thing we've got. Taking what you're told by the news

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam sees everything in very stark black and white terms. If you disagree with him, then you an evil leftist socialist. Forever. That sort of personal absolutism I have little or no tolerance for. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you are a bit off

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
The 'City' is not stalling anything with the reconstruction of the church. The Port Authority of NY/NJ is NOT a city agency. And, it seems the church may be just as responsible for the delays as any other agency. Once again, as the article shows, this is nto a matter of can or should they

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
I also do not agree the 'City' is moving at mach (not mock) speed to approve the mosque, this has been going on for quite some time. So they are moving with mock speed but not mach speed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
On that theme the Marching Morons by Cyril M. Kornbuth is much better. Idiocracy is a wholesale steal of the concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Movie recommendation: Idiocracy. It's not the best

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Not to mention the fact that no one ev er said that the 70% of Americans who oppose the mosque are prejudiced against Muslims. Sam has been asked to show where that was said, and as always when he is cornered be cause people call him out when he is talking out his ass, he started the name

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Also, when I add a new record, again the name in the combo box does not change. It should be blank and allow me to add a new name. Do I need to make these separate? To make the search combo synch you will have to put some code in the form_current event like so Private Sub Form_Current()

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You know Sam you really need to get rid of your sense of victimization. It would make you far less touchy and less likely to see everything and everyone who disagrees with you as an attack when it isn't. You'll also come across as far more reasonable. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sam

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Liberalism isn't just about who you vote for. It's also about how you attack people with different opinions. I've never attacked you Sam. I don't call you all those names other people do. I do call certain positions how I see

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You know in reading this exchange, all I can think is that it would be far easier to make the access db a data source and do the whole thing in CF. For all the effort put into this so far, you could probably have this completed in CF in far less time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jerry

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Medic
Just because Sam thinks everyone is out to get him doesn't mean they aren't! Psychological disorders can be fun. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: You know Sam you really need to get rid of your sense of victimization. It would make you far less

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Just as an aside, there is too much confusion today with labels. Many people use liberal and Democrat and conservative and Republican interchangeably. They are not the same. Before anyone gets their panties in a wad, I am talking about the politicians. Not the rank and file Democrats or

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well I just got off a 27,hour shift so I'm going to Ned. I'll play around with this later with a fresh mind. Thanks for all the help. Oh, and as much as would love to code this in cf, this is a standalone db app and not a web enabled one. Bruce sent from my HTC EVO

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
You know in reading this exchange, all I can think is that it would be far easier to make the access db a data source and do the whole thing in CF. For all the effort put into this so far, you could probably have this completed in CF in far less time. Each has their own uses. Access is great

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
developer version of CF - It part of my nefarious plant to keep Bruce involved with CF. I was just thinking that to set up the dev version of CF takes what 15 minutes? You already have the web server in CF or you can use IIS. 5 minutes to set up the Access data source. Then I'd give it only a few

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
I must be blind, because I saw nothing in that article that says the church has to wait for other work to be done before they can proceed. I didn't read the article. I heard about the situation on the radio. Even if they had to wait, they are not being told they are not welcome or being asked

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
What I read was that the PA were supposed to give the church $20 million to rebuild on the current site. I have not seen anything that says the PA would give them money if they moved. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: I must be blind, because I saw

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
developer version of CF - It part of my nefarious plant to keep Bruce involved with CF. I was just thinking that to set up the dev version of CF takes what 15 minutes? You already have the web server in CF or you can use IIS. 5 minutes to set up the Access data source. Then I'd give it only a few

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
A quick search brought this back: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/17/ground-zero-church-archdiocese-says-officials-forgot/ The Port Authority and the church announced a deal in July 2008 under which the P*ort Authority would grant land and up to $20 million to help rebuild it in a new

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Dohmy bad, it is in the article Sam posted. However, I still do not see the connection. The church can rebuild on the old site (the article says that as well). Again, its not a matter of whether thy can or should re-build, it a matter of where the money is coming from. If the mosque was

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Yea, I went back an re-read the article and saw that - my bad (see my previous post) On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: A quick search brought this back: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/17/ground-zero-church-archdiocese-says-officials-forgot/

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
However, I still do not see the connection. The church can rebuild on the old site (the article says that as well). Again, its not a matter of whether thy can or should re-build, it a matter of where the money is coming from. If the mosque was getting money from the PA then not only would the

Re: MS Access Combo Control question

2010-08-18 Thread Medic
Who's Ned? Actually wait, don't answer that. I think there's still a don't ask don't tell policy in the military. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: Well I just got off a 27,hour shift so I'm going to Ned. I'll play around with this later with a fresh

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:44 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Liberalism isn't just about who you vote for. It's also about how you attack people with different opinions. I've never attacked you Sam. I don't call you all those names other people do. I was referring to you calling

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Dude, if you insult me, as you always do, and then attack me for insulting you back, as you always do, I might want to correct you. Not always but sometimes. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You know Sam you really need to get rid of your sense of

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I stated I was concerned about the funding, the motive for that location over every other and the refusing to denaunce terrorism. All issues that could easily be answered and when I get a satisfactory answer I'll give them my

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: For the record thinking that 70% of the country opposes the mosque because that's what the news said isn't bigotry. I never said it was. I said calling that 70% prejudice is bigotry. I hesitate to call poll results

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
True. And I agree that they do have to deal with a 'when' condition. However, at this point, the 'when' is self-inflicted. They can build on the old spot right now (at least that is what I got out of the article), they just don't have the money to do so. So they need to start clamoring for the

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Correction: YOU weren't one of the ones that called me intolerant. Speed reading On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: We're not talking about the poll. We're talking about you and others

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Once again, no one said that the 70% were prejudiced. Please show where someone said that..pretty please with sugar on top? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: For the record thinking that

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Why do you even bother stating things like this? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Sam sees everything in very stark black and white terms. If you disagree with him, then you an evil leftist socialist. Forever. That sort of personal absolutism I

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: The 'City' is not stalling anything with the reconstruction of the church. The Port Authority of NY/NJ is NOT a city agency. And, it seems the church may be just as responsible for the delays as any other agency. It

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Just observing. You can actually come across as a reasonable person once in a while. The problem is that when someone calls you on something, instead of answering in a reasonable manner, you get into the personal attacks. I think your exchange with Scott is a good example. You stated that 4

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: The 'City' is not stalling anything with the reconstruction of the church. The Port Authority of NY/NJ is NOT a city agency. And, it seems the church may

Re: E-mail Solutions?

2010-08-18 Thread Erika L. Rich
Google Apps - Standard Edition = FREE On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:02 AM, ColdFusion Developer cfdev2...@gmail.comwrote: Using an iPhone and browser for all email traffic, what do you consider is better? Google Apps(Exchange?) -Postini Filtering custom settings - $50/ per/user per/year

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam it is bigotry if 1% or 99% of the population felt like that. Percentage has nothing to do with attitudes. The logic you're using is that we all ought to eat sh*t - trillions of flys do it. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM,

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm trying to get you to see yourself as you come across to others. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you even bother stating things like this? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Sam sees everything in very

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Well there's this: GMoney: If this number is true, then 70% of my countrymen are fucking idiots. Which is when you changed your opinion to for building the mosque. Then we go to this: SS: It has everything to do with intolerance. If it was a new Christian Church or Jewish temple being built,

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Well there's this: GMoney: If this number is true, then 70% of my countrymen are fucking idiots. I was calling everyone fucking idiots on Monday, and my uninformed countrymen got lumped in with them.sorry. Today, I

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: It states the government has stalled. They are completely different agencies dealing with different issues. Not a fair comparison..and you know it. I don't. I was going by what was in the article Not sure where you get

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Did you just call yourself a bigot? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Sam it is bigotry if 1% or 99% of the population felt like that. Percentage has nothing to do with attitudes. The logic you're using is that we all ought to eat sh*t - trillions

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
I guess that is something, but, still neither GMoney nor myself said that 70% of Americans were prejudiced against Muslims. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Well there's this: GMoney: If this number is true, then 70% of my countrymen are fucking idiots.

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:44 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: So you rejected the reasons I gave you from their mouths? Can I ask why? The answer was a press release. It wasn't an explanation. So the wife says they want to bring unity? Hows that working? Let them answer the real

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Because taking out a tape measure to determine what distance is acceptable is asking an unanswerable question. How does one arrive at that? It's being obnoxious. My response was 4 blocks just to point out that a mosque was already there and it had nothing to do with intolerance to Muslims as a

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build there but I certainly understand why people are in an uproar about it. It's a bad idea and it's going to cause so many problems that the message they're trying to convey is going to be lost in the shouting. They'd be better

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: It states the government has stalled. They are completely different agencies dealing with different issues. Not a fair comparison..and you know it. I

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You had made a very definitive statement when stating a distance, but could not supply a reason. Just hostility. Instead what I am suggesting is that when confronted with that sort of counter, look at your reasons why. For instance if it the response was it feels better, I'm more comfortable

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build there but I certainly understand why people are in an uproar about it. It's a bad idea and it's going to cause so many problems that the message

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I was calling everyone fucking idiots on Monday, and my uninformed countrymen got lumped in with them.sorry. Today, I would call them either ignorant, or misguided. I still see no valid reason to oppose the

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to see that again, I remember you posting a pr and an op-ed, nothing more. Here's the entire release from the AP: An Islamic Center including a mosque is proposed for a site in lower Manhattan that's two blocks from

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Eric Roberts
Sam...Revisionist history...no... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque Still insulting content, not person. Saying the comments are

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
Personally I'm taking what they say at face value. I just don't think it's going to be possible for them to get that message across in our current social atmosphere in the way they're going about it. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed this? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
You brought out the tape measure first when you said the proposed site was too close to Grouns Zero, so all I wanted to know was, if this site is 'too close', how far away would be enough. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Because taking out a tape measure to

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: No wiggle room huh? You have the info you need to make that decision? I'm glad you've become such an expert on the matter so quickly. I have all the information I am entitled too...and more. The track record of these people is

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Eric Roberts
Which in turn is good for themselves because then big business fills their coffers... Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:43 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
You right, you said intolerant. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that is something, but, still neither GMoney nor myself said that 70% of Americans were prejudiced against Muslims.

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
I'd like to think we can agree that there is a difference between calling someone 'intolerant' and calling them 'prejudiced' :D On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You right, you said intolerant. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
I offered a correction On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build there but I certainly understand why people are in an uproar about it. It's a bad idea and it's going to cause so many

RE: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sisk, Kris
I saw that about 2 minutes after I sent this. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque I offered a correction On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:30

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
CNN poll that started the thread It was 68% On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed this? ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I have all the information I am entitled too...and more. The track record of these people is one of promoting peace and tolerance. Why would I suddenly decide they are NOT going to do that with this Mosque? The flotilla was

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
I tend to think intolerance towards Muslims is prejudice. Correct me if I'm wrong. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to think we can agree that there is a difference between calling someone 'intolerant' and calling them 'prejudiced' :D

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
I still see no valid reason to oppose the mosqueso either: 1) They don't know any better (ignorant). 2) They have their facts wrong (misguided). and...that's about it.after that.we're left with either stupidor...bigoted. So, now everyone who disagrees with you is not an

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Sam
Points taken. I was being attacked and ridiculed from all sides and became very short fused. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You had made a very definitive statement when stating a distance, but could not supply a reason. Just hostility. Instead

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed this? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/11/cnnopinion-research-poll-august-6-10/ J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations,

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: But does it make me an idiot to oppose? Nope, which is why i retracted that. It makes you either: - Ignorant - Misguided - Bigoted I went with ignorant, and now i'll add willfully ignorant, for reasons previously stated. --

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Points taken. I was being attacked and ridiculed from all sides and became very short fused. As was I on Monday when I called 70% of my bro's effing idiots. They aren't. I still don't agree with any of Sam's so-called

Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Here are a few definitions I found: intolerance: unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs prejudice: a prejudgement: i.e. a preconceived belief, opinion, or judgment made without ascertaining the facts of a case They are similar, but there are some subtle, but

A modest proposal for the islamic center issue

2010-08-18 Thread Judah McAuley
So we are trying to balance out the Constitutional rights of an Islamic group with a perceived sensitivity issue because they want to build near the site of a tragic incident that was associated with people holding some of the same beliefs. In the spirit of compromise, I humbly suggest we

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