I took the recert at the last networkers 2001 in LA. I didn't study and I
got 892 out of 1000. When I took it you needed at least 750 or something
like that. The questions were a hodge podge of the 4 other current test I
believe. If you are working with the equipment it should be a breeze. Th
Hi all,
I just find that Cisco routers can support rsh so that I can use a UNIX
machine to remotely execute command. However, I would like to know is there
any security holes if I enable rsh at Cisco routers? If so, how to improve
it?
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Dovelet
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A standard Cat5k does not "look" into a packet at a layer greater than layer
2 (MAC). If you want a switch to perform this type of function then either
trunk your traffic via a router or get a switch with a router blade.
Regards
Neil.
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Hi..
Assume that I have several routers attached to a "FR Cloud" and they are
already communicating with each other. Now, one of you (who reads this
subject) wants to build up a new connection between one of his routers and
mine. Since there is a common network between us, each router attached to
I think I was not able to explain what i want do. I want to configure my
1003 Cisco Router so that if it fails to connect to one access server it
should automatically switch to another access router somewhere else. It's
simple to backup a serial connection. You configure your in your serial
interf
Guys,
I am looking for a Study Partner, who is planning to take the CCIE lab in
the next 12-15 months, and is prepared to share the cost of setting up a
test lab in Sydney, Australia.
I live around upper North Shore in Sydney.
Preferably this candidate should be a CCNP, and should be committed
Hi! Everyone!
I have a question.
It is possible to apply acl on port-channel interface or port-channel sub-
interface?
According to my experience, Router print out following message;
'Acl is not supported on port-channel interface'
Well then, Isn't there the other method to solve this problem?
Any
I've followed the procedure to the letter
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/474/pswdrec_cs500.html
but the thing's still asking me for a password, residual host name indicates
to me that config still intact.
Ideas appreciated ?
Mark
Press RETURN to get started!
FHS649CS>en
Password:
Pa
Hi All
has any configured a Cisco ACES server proxy with a Radius server? I've had
a search on the CCO and can't seem to find any useful reading and
configurations, any tips or advice welcome
Thanks
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I have a new Cisco 1750 router that comes with 2 port voice card and 1 T1
wic. This router is still in the box. It is a extra left over from a roll
out project just completed. Complete and ready for Voice over IP.The spec's
is as follow:
a.. Cisco 1750 router with WIC-1T serial module
a.. Power su
Hi all,
Where can I find the converter token ring to ethernet for 2502 ? any idea
thanks
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Your upstream provider [ ISP/NSP] should be able to provide you with this .
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shella kevin wrote:
> where can i get a class C ip address bl
Hello Friends
I want to know about Catalyst 6000 series switch software details.
When I use config tool I come across Native and Hybrid SW, Sup 1 or 2
images, flash,MSFC2/PFC2.. etc.
Anybody have clear info on how choose among these products when designing
and making
bill of material for a proj
You are correct Jennifer,
I can see on your choice of numbers (266 & 326) that you searched the web
and found the "MyPetNumber" site :-)
http://www.virtu-software.com/articles/MyPetNumber.asp
It is indeed an interesting number.
Have a great day.
Ole
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1) I got a pix in test(all internal) environment (configured as
outside,inside and DMZ).Do I need to use NAT to connect to the outside
segment from inside or vice versa.Since Pix can act as a router ,will
enabling routing solve this purpose without use of NAT.Applying access list
later for secur
Ramesh
No you don't need to config NAT, secondly to open up all ports for a host,
as a source to any where, try this acl
access-list acl_inside permit tcp host 192.10.1.1 any
For some more info have a look at the CCO
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/707/
cheers Pat
""Ramesh c"" wrote in mes
Have you checked the keys are the same in the server and router, also check
the source IP address the router is using and that which is in your server's
entry for the router. Check the logs on your TACACS server, otherwise I
think more info is needed
cheers
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O.k. I sat the exam last week and failed but by not a lot. Silly mistakes
killed me. For those of you who have still to experience the one day lab
then please read ahead.
Mostly everyone on this list stated that there was no time to do the lab or
check anything. I found this to be so untrue i
>where can i get a class C ip address block ? I check everywhere
>everyone is saying they only provide a block of /19.
>
>Anyone can help ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Shella
>
What do you want to do with it? In the real world, it can be very
hard to get a provider-independent /24, and even harder to get
I'm taking the Computer Data Advanced BGP class next week taught by Larry
Mobley. I was wondering if anyone has taken this class and if so what they
thought of it. A couple of guys here at EDS have taken it and just loved it
and was wondering if that's the global consensus. Anything I should revi
Hi all,
I just configure a Cisco 2509 router as a dial-up RAS server. Users can
connect the RAS server using PPP and I use the router's local user database
for authenication. It can works without any problems. However, I cannot
trace when and which users login. Is there any commands can do that?
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>
> Hi! thanks for the information. what technical topics did we miss in our
> lab scenerios? also, here is the general list of equipment you can use to
> do our labs:
I guess somehow this pass through my ne
William,
If the PC is on a local LAN segment with a Cisco
router, you could policy-route the traffic. Any
traffic going out port 80, and other web ports use the
broadband for their next-hop, and if it's email
another next-hop.
On Cisco.com, search for policy-routing and route-maps
and you should
"fwells12" wrote,
>I believe CertificationZone pushes the IP Expert lab scenarios, I am not
>sure if they create them. Anyway, Fatkid has a sponsored lab from them on
>their web site. If that is a sample of the kind of labs to be found in the
>remainder of their book, I wouldn't bother with it
At 08:24 AM 11/20/01 -0500, Ramesh c wrote:
>1) I got a pix in test(all internal) environment (configured as
>outside,inside and DMZ).Do I need to use NAT to connect to the outside
>segment from inside or vice versa.Since Pix can act as a router ,will
>enabling routing solve this purpose without
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> Mobley. I was wondering if anyone has taken this class and if so what they
> thought of it. A couple of guys here at EDS have taken it and
The procedure does work but not exactly as you might think. The push button
on the front doesnt reset the config( or not on mine) but does bypass the
config on startup. You can edit the startup, change the password, etc then
save it and reboot. I had to do this when I mistyped the file name for a
Tim, how much was the class, is there a url that you can give me? Sounds
interesting.
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""Ouellette, Tim"" wrote in m
The wan provider maps the DLCI to the IP of the FR switch at the opposite
end through special tables.. Furthermore, the Frame Relay header is stipped
off when entering the cloud and travels around via regualr IP or ATM, etc.
The FR header is then put back on once it reached the opposite FR switch
We do it all over in our LSS service, (LAN Switching Service). Though
we no longer use 4700's, dead product, it works fine and these things
were bridging. Only time we had a very strange problem that has never
been resolved was a customer connect about 6 sites thru this fully
meshed service with
The info is out there.. do a google search on TACACS CONFIGURATION.
I have pasted a simple script here for you to start with. Feel free to drop
by my web site for other info and downloads for TACACS+. www.packetattack.com
MikeS
- ios config --
hostname Router
!
aaa new-model
aaa authent
For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont
be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam.
That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test
indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco
stat
go to:
http://www.arin.net/regserv.html
Dave
shella kevin wrote:
>
> where can i get a class C ip address block ? I check everywhere
> everyone is saying they only provide a block of /19.
>
> Anyone can help ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Shella
>
> >From: "Jason" >Reply-To: "Jason" >To: [EMAIL P
Hi All
I'm looking at upgrading the IOS for a couple of 7204 routers so that they
can support SSH, I'm after a bit of info' on a good method of selecting the
IOS to upgrade to.
I've searched the CCO and found that I need an IPSec version, say the
Enterprise IPsec with 3Des, I then get a list of I
Yes. Anytime you enable any of the 'r' commands on any device you must be
aware of the risks.
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If it's true that the exams are changing, I'll take one today and let you
guys know how it is different, if at all.
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Dont
> be discouraged by all the p
Your choice is as good as any. Not being sarcastic, but I have been
through the ringer with IOS and Cisco for the last 6 months.
Specifically with 7200's and 7500's. TAC will not provide you with Code
recommendation unless you are experiencing issues with code.
In regards to your selection, I wo
I started taking the CCNP exams under the 1.0 versions. I took the CLSC
(Switching), CMTD (RAS) and failed the ACRC (Routing) exams, then the
switch happened. I then took the Routing exam, and the old ACRC made the
routing exam I took look like a walk in the park. After that, the
Support exam was
I'd like to use ACL's on a 2948 G-L3 switch. Cisco states that you cannot
put extended access lists on physical interfaces, see below. I need the
access list security. Do extended access lists work on logical VLAN
interfaces?
( http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/29.html )
In release 12.0(7)W5(1
I've never been a fan of the Exam Crams used as the core of my studying.
To their credit though, they're short and sweet. A day or two before I
take an exam sometimes I'll burn through an examcram book, and if I read
something that I couldn't add three or four more sentences to, then I
know that's
Hello,
I was wondering if any of you have taken the CCIE Security written exam,
350-018? Just wanted to know if the requirements on the Cisco page is
similar to the study material you used to pass the test. If you have taken
the Routing and Switching CCIE exam, are they similar? Any suggestion
I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams,
and slightly more difficult than the CID exam.
Hal Logan
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College
> -Original Message-
> From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROT
I thought about that after I took the exam, but there was something else
I noticed when taking the boson tests. Try taking one of the more
popular CCIE prep books, or maybe even the CCIE Professional Development
books, and go through a section. (Not a chapter, but one section of a
chapter). Then,
I used Test #2.
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> From: Nick Lesewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
>
>
> You said you used one of the bosons and it was great... Which
>
Because it would be palindnilap, and it's a bugger to pronounce.
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> Interesting, but why is the word palindrome non-palindromic?
> When I calculate 42 in Binary I get:
> 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1
> 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0
>
> 0 0
If you're good at something - a test may seem easy. On the other hand, if
you're not good at something - a test may seem very tough.
The point is, the exams are no harder than you make them, and if everything
makes sense to you and you have a good logical way of thinking - the CCIE
lab could seem
Thanks, Mike.
Any time I use the "default" keyword, the daemon refuses to load giving an
"expected string" error.
It's good practice, though. I've almost locked myself out of the switch.
As long as I'm too lazy to cycle the power, I'll hack at it until I get it
right. :-)
Thanks.
Ken
>>> "
What kind of help can you provide?
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True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and
dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and
taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times
in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it
heloo all ,
any body has a transcender for
640-505 Remote Access or Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting Support (CIT)
we can trade .i have trancender for 640-503 Routing , 640-504 Switching
,Router sim and switch sim and MCSE 2000 .
Regards
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Can anyone show me exactly how to calculate ISP bandwidth?
When i download it gives me approximatly 75.00 KB/Sec
What will be my total bandwidth?
Thanks
Ashok C Braganza
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Kurt Norman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if any of you have taken the CCIE Security written exam,
> 350-018? Just wanted to know if the requirements on the Cisco page is
> similar to the study material you used to pass the test. If you have taken
> the Routing and Switching CCIE exam, ar
:-)
They should've called it rotator instead...
Ole
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Did you ever think that some people on amazon are mixing the reviews just to
throw people off, and slow them down from getting certified? On the flip
note, It could be the authors friends posting good stuff about the books. I
guess you could call this Job security either way. So in my posting I ju
I hear of this book long ago, but even now I cannot find the book in my
country. Does anybody who has read the book tell me which topics is talked
about in it?
I guess it must talk about BGP, but what are the others?
THANKS!
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My question is about support of sna FRBAN feature on a Cisco CIP router
directly connected to frame-relay network and specially when we use a FRAD
RFC 1490 COMPLIANT ON ANOTHER SITE and not a Cisco router.
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Hey all. I came across something and I can't find a good answer anywhere.
So here goes.
There is a 7500 router with multiple T1s that go to many remote sites. Some
of these remote sites use multiple T1 lines. These are configured with PPP
Multilink and Virtual Templates.
I know that when con
go for the cisco press book if your objective is to pass the exams early.
The exam questins are compiled from the these books, so better read them in
between the lines too.
thanks
Suresh MCSE+I,CNE,CCSA,CLS,SCSA,CCSA,MCNS,CCNP,CCIE(Written)
http://www.sureshhomepage.com
>
> > Hi All
> > Any
You really missed a precious thing that could have saved your life It is the
Cisco press book. You do not need anything keen,troytec,sybex etc...if you
have this book in hand. The book is written by Catherine Paquest., follow
the book each and evey line. You would find answers to alomost all of
Hi
I used a sniffer to monitor my network traffic. I
found even if the tcp window size is very big (around
32000), my ftp session is still getting one ack after
every two pakets sent.
So who is deciding how frequent the ack will be sent?
I thought it should be decided by the TCP window size.
Ple
Hi,
>From Routing 2.0 & Remote 2.0 exam point of view, the reverse telnet is
defined as the the one used for configuring the modems from the router. You
open the telnet session with the modem-connected right from the router. You
may refer this in the Cisco press for Bcran 2.0 book edited by 'Ca
I don't know as this is the first I've heard of the 2948G-L3 switches.
However, I did read this:
"The Catalyst 2948G-L3 has the ability to prevent security breaches via the
use of both IP and IPX access lists. This is useful in preventing users from
accessing certain applications or services. Th
If you would prefer one routing path among multiple routes than use route
maps
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> >
> > Is there any router COMMAND that
> > indicate which route t
KB and kb are different. Usually network links are measured in kilo bits per
second. KB is Kilo Bytes per second. To convert Bytes to Bits you need to
times Bytes by 8 bits.
So, 75KB times 8 = 600kilobits / sec.
To convert kilobits to megabits you need to divide by 1024.
So, 600kilobits / 102
I would say your best bet would be to scour Cisco's website on each part and
see the differences. For instance, there are some functions that a
MSFC2/PFC2 can do that an MSFC1/PFC1 can't do. (AFAIK) you HAVE to have a
Sup 2 to support a MSFC2/PFC2, but you can run an MSFC1/PFC2 on either a
Sup1
My logic has always been, if someone can afford to take any cert exam 8
times, and doesn't mind losing the money, then odds are they're
financially well-off enough that they can just retire now and get it
over with.
Now that the written costs $300 US, taking the written 8 times would
cost $2400,
It's easy to see what's happening here. All of Boson's tests are done by
different authors. Each author is going to try like hell to get their
questions as close as possible to the questions on the actual exams, if not
right from the exams. Boson doesn't care because they state right in their
auth
You are probably right about the reviews, which is why I mostly go for books
with more than 10 different ones - and better if even more.
I also agree with you about multiple books - I have done that with all my
exams except the BCRAN, because that book was just perfect (in my eyes).
However, I h
Is this even possible?
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Hi all, anyone know where I can get free router simulator?
Thanks.
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Interesting observation. I don't think Cisco would even care if a
company was putting out test questions that matched the exam... after
all, if less qualified people try and fail at the lab, that's just easy
money for them anyway.
Either way, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I'm just goin
do u have to recertify on the written after 3 yrs? i passed the written in
1/2000 & since then, i've attempted the lab 4x...i'm going to attempt the
lab as many times as i can before the written recertification (in 1/2003),
after that, sad to say but i'm planning to give up...it just ain't worth i
check out computerdata.com, they're just a cisco training partner that
hires mr. mobley.
I think the class is $3995 for the week. Not bad if work's paying. Here's
some confirmation info from computer data.
This is to confirm your seat in the following course:
Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
St
Congrats! I'm studying for the BSCN currently too. How was the BCRAN - I've
heard its very hard -yes/no?
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Been there, done that...not any fun. Brokerage environment; UDP
directed-broadcast traffic to nearly 200 sites. Buffers tuned to the max to
keep from dropping packets because the application didn't handle
re-transmissions...etc., etc., Of course, priority queuing was required to
ensure that web
Mphekeleli
I passed it about 3 wks ago and I'd have to say study up on VPN, VLAN's and
trunking, ISL, CGMP the most. The questions are not like anything you may
see on boson or any study guides. The one I took made you really think about
the technology and how it works to come up with an answer.
they really need to update their web site...they are still teaching
crappletalk according to it...along with other technologies that were
eliminated a long while back by Cisco.
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Verify that the router can reach the TACACS server (ping) and verify that
the TACACS server and router are configured with matching parameters. Note:
you may have to restart the TACACS server process when you add a router.
I'm assuming that you copy/pasted the same set of config lines in all of
I understood and thought there may be an example somewhere in the dial
cookbook. I had done it before a few years back and I think it was done
using multiple dialers.
Dave
Oeztuerk Kerem wrote:
>
> I think I was not able to explain what i want do. I want to configure my
> 1003 Cisco Router s
I like to run Win2K VPN server behind the cisco PIX 520 firewall and
wonderig what port would I need to open on PIX so it sends all vpn
requests to Win2K box running behind the PIX or on SSN.
Has anyone done this ? ANy recommendation would be helpful..
thanks
Inamul
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Does anyone have step by step link to setup VPN on PIX 520
running code 5.2 ?
thanks
Inamul
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Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed
yet.
Off topic:
Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the
survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have,
etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you
of coarse, routing just works, bridging is a little more complicated.
Dave
Michael Williams wrote:
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> Is this even possible?
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Messa
I said "these books are my suggestion" I didnt say use ONLY these books. I
am just a guy on the internet. Im sure people dont take my emails as the
final word on CCNP. Just curtious so I know when I take it, what did you use
for BCRAN? CCNP Cisco? I have that book already if it is. But havnt got t
sure ;)
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> Off topic:
>
> Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the
> survey before each test on how many ce
When you email him, it just replies "READ A BOOK!", Just kidding :)
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Hi all,
I have been going thru the book - Cisco BGP 4 - command and
configuration handbook from William Parkhurst and personally feel that
book is very good - explaining each and every command options and
examples for that.
It is useful for me to practice each and every command for my exam. At
I know most people fail the first time...BUT I am NOT planning on
failing my first attempt. If I do, then fine...but I am not going into
the test planning to fail...in late January I will let you know how my
experience was. Anyway, Good luck on your next attempt.
-CAF
"It's always darkest...righ
The best way to troubleshoot the problem would be to enable debugging on the
Tacacs server, The following commands assume you have a Unix Tacacs server
and you will need root access.
The first file you need to edit is the $BASEDIR/config/CSU.cfg file. You
will need to change the following lines
I used the BCRAN from McGraw-Hill.
Follow my RouterChief link and look.
You have a nice TG too...
Ole
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VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the questions
in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would affect
the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every time?
But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, bu
Inamul-
I run a similar setup with no problem. Here's a snipet of the PIX config.
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! maps private address to real IP where 172.20.1.65 is MS VPN server.
static (inside,outside) A.B.C.D 172.20.1.65 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
! permits ports f
As far as I know, you can't just put a "gender-changer" device on a TR
interface and the other end of it be a Ethernet directly into a Ethernet
Concentrator.
What you would have to do is have a TR Blade in a Modular switch primarily
working with Ethernet, or vise-versa.
Then you have to have the
Huh? How is the ethernet interface on a router going to deal with token
ring frames? Would it pass the token correctly? I don't think using a
"converter" on a token ring connector and plugging into an ethernet
interface on a router will work at all.
Mike W.
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I must share your superstition. I always filled out the survey as if I was
doing a career change and didn't know squat about networking even though
I've got numerous certs and have hands-on experience. I've heard that the
grading of an exam is somewhat based on your answers to this survey. So, I
d
I always say I am changing careers, never seen a router, have no certs, etc.
Some people have told me they swear that if you say you are the man on that
survey, they really make the test harder. I'm afraid to find out myself :)
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On the PIX, you need to open port tcp 1723 and GRE 47, assuming that you
are using Microsoft PPTP buggy stuff.
- Original Message -
From: "Inamul"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:15 PM
Subject: What port for Win2K VPN [7:26897]
> I like to run Win2K VPN server behind the cisco
I seriously doubt that the questions asked has anything to do with your
answers in the survey.
I believe this discussion was running for some time a year or so ago - try
the archives.
Ole
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Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Ente
De-lurk mode >on<
Hello, looking for some career pathing advice. I am currently pursuing CCNP
but looking to specialize. It seems to me that the two hot paths right now
are VoIP/AVVID and Security/SAFE.
To get blunt, which one of these specializations is going to be more in
demand/pay more in th
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