Re: [Marketing] Get Legal on Digg

2006-05-03 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 22:22 -0500, J David Eisenberg wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Simon Phipps wrote: I've posted a Digg for the Get Legal campaign; you may wish to go Digg it to get it up into the front page... http://digg.com/software/_Get_Legal_-_OpenOffice.Org_Spins_Microsoft_FUD

Re: [Marketing] I'm speaking about OOo at Westchester (NY) PC User's Group

2006-05-03 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 19:44 -0400, Benjamin Horst wrote: Hi all, I'm giving a talk to the Westchester PC User's Group about OpenOffice on Thursday, May 4 at 7:00pm local time. (Westchester is the county just north of New York City.) Hope it goes well. It would be great if you could let us

Re: [Marketing] MS Office users ready to jump ship

2006-05-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, May 2, 2006 10:09, Lars D. Noodén wrote: Actually that seems to have been part of the strategy all along: As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-05-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 10:13 +0300, Cristian Driga wrote: Hi John, John McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 00:14 +1000, Mike Williams wrote: On Saturday 29 April 2006 06:02, John McCreesh wrote: Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html A bit of rephrasing/re

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-05-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 06:30 +0300, Cristian Driga wrote: Hi, John McCreesh wrote: snip Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Some more suggestions for the campaign: 1. Building translated get_legal.html pages. (possibly hosted on the NLC sites if not on why.OOo

[Marketing] Get Legal on LWN

2006-05-01 Thread John McCreesh
I know we're an open-source project, but it is a bit frustrating when work in progress is put in the public domain like this: * people are directed to a site which is still evolving * we reduce the impact of the press release when it's officially released. http://lwn.net/Articles/181996 John

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal on LWN

2006-05-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 17:02 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: John McCreesh wrote: I know we're an open-source project, but it is a bit frustrating when work in progress is put in the public domain like this: * people are directed to a site which is still evolving * we reduce the impact

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 00:42 +0300, Cristian Driga wrote: Hi John, It's a great idea and the draft looks good. More below... John McCreesh wrote: Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Some suggested changes: ===1=== OpenOffice.org 2 is a world-class

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 00:02 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi all, John McCreesh wrote: Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Please comment only on the message on this list - I'm going to look for volunteers on the art project to turn it into a web page :-) Good

Re: [Marketing] Get legal - get OpenOffice.org

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:00 +0200, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: [snip] We also have to take into account that the effect of the slogan mainly comes from the fact that it's actually a bit provocative. I think a marketing has to be a bit provocative, but of course not too provocative. It's a

Re: [Marketing] Get legal - get OpenOffice.org

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 11:15 +0200, charles-h.schulz wrote: Hello, the get legal campaign is a very good idea. Maybe a small PR operation would help it rise up in the media, who knows. As for the risk that we may encounter due to the potential agressive nature of the message, I think we

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 10:46 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] I like this - let's park it for today while we finish Get Legal. Rening me later if I forget about it :-) d'oh - s/Rening/Remind/ This keyboard can't spell ;-) John

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 12:35 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi John, John McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 00:02 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: One warning: when talking about this with some business-people (month or so ago), it turned out that they could become offended. As if I suggested

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 00:14 +1000, Mike Williams wrote: On Saturday 29 April 2006 06:02, John McCreesh wrote: Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Hi John, so you don't need to type anything in again makes sense to me, but I had to think for a few seconds. I think

[Marketing] Get legal - get OpenOffice.org

2006-04-28 Thread John McCreesh
Another example like Daniel's of yeaterday: BSA offers £20k piracy bounty to rat on your boss Three-quarters of staff say they'd drop their employer in it... http://newsletters.silicon.cneteu.net/t/115934/463176/183536/0/ Please send any other examples to this list. I'm keen to do

Re: [Marketing] Get legal - get OpenOffice.org

2006-04-28 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:46 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi John, all, John McCreesh wrote: [...]I'm keen to do something under the strapline - Get legal - get OpenOffice.org Great idea :-) - to be used at why.openoffice.org? I want to develop why.openoffice.org into a full mini

[Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-28 Thread John McCreesh
Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Please comment only on the message on this list - I'm going to look for volunteers on the art project to turn it into a web page :-) Thanks - John - To unsubscribe,

Re: [Marketing] MS Office users ready to jump ship

2006-04-27 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, April 27, 2006 13:09, Daniel Carrera wrote: A marketing opporunity for OOo? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4054/53/ Excellent Daniel - thanks for this. As I said recently in my blog: As a proponent of open-source software, I am 100 percent and more in favour of commercial

Re: [Marketing] spreadopenoffice.org - why.openoffice.org

2006-04-26 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 16:15 -0500, J David Eisenberg wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Cristian Driga wrote: BTW: congratulations on your es.openoffice.org website. Great design. Simple and extremely efficient. It was of inspiration for us in the why.ooo initiative. We'd love to see the

Re: [Marketing] Open office blowup

2006-04-22 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 18:00 -0500, Jerry Russell wrote: STRANGE. This is the strangest thing that has happened to me relative to computers, and I have been working with them for thirty years. I was loading OpenOffice on my computer and there was an explosion in the CD drive, yes

[Marketing] why.openoffice.org is born

2006-04-22 Thread John McCreesh
The site plumbers have now created a holding space for the new 'shop window' site why.openoffice.org. The 'manifesto' for this mini-site is here: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=23171 I've set up an area within the Marketing section of the wiki with a few holding

Re: [Marketing] Riding on MS' BSA activities?

2006-04-19 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, April 18, 2006 16:33, Lars D. Noodén wrote: MS is continuing to step up activities of BSA around the world, both in places like Sweden and Pakistan: http://jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2006-daily/18-04-2006/business/b11.htm And China:

Re: [Marketing] why.openoffice.org/marketing

2006-04-19 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:49 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi John, all, John McCreesh wrote: I'd like to canvass opinion among the marketing project for the launch of a new theme: Why OpenOffice.org The proposal is that Why OpenOffice.org will be a major theme of our campaigning

Re: [Marketing] Riding on MS' BSA activities?

2006-04-18 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 06:33 -0400, Lars D. Noodén wrote: MS is continuing to step up activities of BSA around the world, both in places like Sweden and Pakistan: http://jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2006-daily/18-04-2006/business/b11.htm What kind of ways can we ride on this and use it to

[Marketing] why.openoffice.org/marketing

2006-04-15 Thread John McCreesh
I'd like to canvass opinion among the marketing project for the launch of a new theme: Why OpenOffice.org The proposal is that Why OpenOffice.org will be a major theme of our campaigning in 2006 and for OOoConf 2006. The developments in the MS-Office 2007 story mean we have a golden opportunity

Re: [Marketing] Article: Why technical writers aren't using FOSS

2006-04-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 09:06 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: Cristian Driga wrote: Thoughts ? I think we should pick a set of market segments where it's easier to sell FOSS. What I got from Bruce's article was not that Linux on the desktop is hopeless, but that Tech Writers are not the best

Re: [Marketing] Press release for OOo 2.0.1

2006-04-11 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 16:22 +0200, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can find the press release for OOo 2.0.1? http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=prmsgNo=1038 John - To

Re: [Marketing] Promoting OOo to authors, editors, publishers

2006-04-04 Thread John McCreesh
Thanks for the tip - that's an excellent example of how people can use their professional peer networks as a marketing opportunity. Is your focus on getting them to use OOo in their own organisations, or on getting them to publish articles, books, etc on OOo (and/or including CDs)? John On Tue,

Re: [Marketing] Case Study - Bristol City Council, England

2006-03-04 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 01:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On 2006-02-27, at 22:54 , John McCreesh wrote: Good case study at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/02/23/ bristol_migration.html \ did you add this to the wiki on the major deployments? see http

[Marketing] FOSSTEC 2006 Symposium

2006-03-01 Thread John McCreesh
Any interest? John Forwarded Message From: Prof. Nagib Callaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FOSSTEC 2006 Symposium Date: 1 Mar 2006 15:57:10 -0400 On behalf of the FOSSTEC 2006 Organizing Committee, I would like to invite you to participate, submitting a

[Marketing] Case Study - Bristol City Council, England

2006-02-27 Thread John McCreesh
Good case study at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/02/23/bristol_migration.html John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label is over

2006-02-26 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 23:13 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hello to all of you, and thanks to all the people joining the voting. From 16 Marketing Project members only one voted for Label D, all the others preferred Label B (four of them named Label A as second choice).

Re: [Marketing] things should change. vote of confidence and capability.

2006-02-22 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, February 22, 2006 12:35, Alex Fisher wrote: [snip] May I suggest that in the future, when anyone makes any suggestion in what may seem to be an aggressive (for lack of a better term) tone, that everyone take a deep breath, consider whether the poster is a native English speaker, if

[Marketing] Forrester Research Social Computing Report

2006-02-19 Thread John McCreesh
We took part in a piece of research for Forrester on 'Social Computing': John Thank you for taking the time to work with us on the February 2006 Social Computing Report. As your company was mentioned in this report, I've included a link to your complimentary copy. Please follow the link at

Re: [Marketing] Final call for easter egg oppinion!

2006-02-08 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 23:02 +, Ian Lynch wrote: I think I put a slightly different slant on this. I entirely agree that the open-source communities which work best are the do-ocracies, those which value people according to what they contribute. By contribute, I don't just mean

Re: [Marketing] MarCon Role

2006-02-08 Thread John McCreesh
at this point) for the SMP. I will start working on the migration - I need the practice with the markup. Obviously, anyone else that feels compelled to jump in... Jeff Causey On Tuesday February 07 2006 17:19, John McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 11:07 -0800, Adam Moore wrote

Re: [Marketing] MarCon Role

2006-02-07 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 11:07 -0800, Adam Moore wrote: On 2/6/06, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We tried to define this once at http://ooosmp.homelinux.org/GoalsandObjectives/MarketingProject I knew there was something just didn't have the time to go find it. Thank you. Could

Re: [Marketing] Final call for easter egg oppinion!

2006-02-07 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:01 +0100, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: In any FOSS community, the community is made of the developpers. The one who codes is the one who calls the shots. The rest, albeit valuable sometimes, has no other way than respecting the developpers' decisions or try to convince

Re: [Marketing] MarCon Role

2006-02-06 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 09:24 -0800, Adam Moore wrote: I'll restart it in a new thread as asked here. [snip] This thread is exactly for the OOo MP. We as a volunteer project need to know what our limits are as far as volunteers even more so than in a paid job. First it tells us if we want to

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-05 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 05:35 +0200, Cristian Driga wrote: In the same time I really want to have input from John and Jacqueline also before we go further with big changes. I'm more than happy to test if the wiki works as a home for the MP John

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-05 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 21:27 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Maybe you could put something on the Marketing Project's home page that leads people to the Marketing page on the wiki? Will do once as soon as there's some content there ;-) John

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 08:39 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: SourceForge has more than 200 projects in the category Project Management. I'll try to dive a step deeper into it. Where could this thing be hosted? CollabNet? As it stands, I guess no, but the wiki proved that if enough of the

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:16 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: I mean that such a system has got to be located somewhere. Someone's got to install the software on a server, connect it to the internet at keep an eye on it now and then. And since we have no money, we can't pay for that

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-02-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:14 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: [snip] Here's what we've got. It says X-Server with 800 x 600 or higher resolution with 16.7 Million colour Please replace this line with X11 required. Available for OS X 10.3 on Apple.com

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-31 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:04 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: [snip] no... Only I'll let john take care of these points. I certainly see the source of the confusion! I've lost the plot here, but I think Chad was complaining about the content of http://www.openoffice.org/product/reqts.html.

Re: [Marketing] Some comments on plan

2006-01-31 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:58 -0500, Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA wrote: Just thought I would pop in with really a few questions relative to the strategic marketing plan. Like some others on the list, I've been going through it recently and trying to figure out where things stand with the project.

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 22:35 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: [snip] I'll John take care of these points but I do think we should use just *one* system requirements page :-) you can already see the pain of managing multiple ones I agree, but ... How did you find the

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 06:55 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: John McCreesh wrote: How did you find the http://www.openoffice.org/product/reqts.html page? If you click the multiplatform link in the first paragraph on the OOo home page, that is the page you go to. I think it's left over

Re: [Marketing] Typo on Goals and Objectives page

2006-01-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 15:58 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: John McCreesh wrote: There are some diagrams which try to illustrate this in the SMP at http://ooosmp.homelinux.org/GoalsandObjectives/MarketingProject John, you might like to fix the typo (missing space) in the heading

[Marketing] Shameless plug for OOo

2006-01-22 Thread John McCreesh
http://www.bcs.org/BCS/Products/publishing/itnow/OnlineArchive/jan06/itnowextra/member.htm Just skip to the last few paragraphs to read the shameless plug. The BCS is the professional association for IT folks in the UK, many of whom are not as au fait with open-source as they should be. I

Re: [Marketing] Open Office

2006-01-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:36 -0800, Thomas A. Shiels wrote: What is your mailing (ie. snail mail) address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Marketing Project is a virtual organisation - it doesn't have physical offices anywhere :-) John

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research Development

2006-01-10 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:41 -0500, DC Parris wrote: Greetings! I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in RD - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in RD. I believe it does. Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in RD? I am also

Re: [Marketing] Have I misunderstood the purpose of this list?

2005-12-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 19:35 +, Mark Harrison (Groups) wrote: I market OOo here in the UK. I'm not particularly high profile (I work in a particular vertical market, and have clients who don't particularly court publicity about their office systems). I don't claim to represent OOo in any

Re: [Marketing] marketing demographics

2005-12-03 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:53 -0800, me wrote: [snip] I browsed the openoffice.org site longer than I usually do with such sites, to collect this and two other such second step site addresses within openoffice.org:users@openoffice.org, and [EMAIL PROTECTED], to address my immediate issue

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming MSO 12 as a push to OOo?

2005-11-29 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 00:30 -0500, Lars D. Noodén wrote: [snip] However, by all accounts the upcoming MSO 12 will present major problems for anyone used to the current tools and the transition will be disruptive and costly. [1] It is likely that a transition to MSO 12 may be more

Re: [Marketing] Article: OpenDocument vs MS XML

2005-11-27 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 01:44 +, Daniel Carrera wrote: Hi all, Excellent article at Groklaw: [snip] OpenDocument beats MS XML in interoperability hands down. And this article explains some of the technical reasons why. I highly recommend it. Yes, I usually feel that way too about

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org SAP ?

2005-11-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 17:41 +0100, Molcan Filip wrote: Hi, do we have any reference for company using OpenOffice.org with SAP? Thanks a lot, Filip Molcan No, but SAP are one of the foundation (major) sponsors of OASIS, home of OpenDocument

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org SAP ?

2005-11-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 20:53 +0100, Molcan Filip wrote: That's good, but is there any chance that SAP will add support for ODF into its IS? If you are a user, ask your account manager. If you're a member of the SAP user group, ask at the next meeting... There is an old joke about the man who

Re: [Marketing] Recommendations for Demo?

2005-10-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 10:33 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 16:53 +0200, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: I was just told that at the day after tomorrow (Tue.), I will have to give a 20 minute demo of what's new in OOo2 at a conference (talk about short notice!). The

Re: [Marketing] Flyer in Spanish

2005-10-23 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 10:48 +0100, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi guys I notice the flyer launched here: http://www.openoffice.org/product2/more.html We had this translated into spanish: A4 Product Specs http://es.openoffice.org/files/documents/73/2932/ooo2prodspeca4es.odt A3 Product Flyer

Re: [Marketing] Conference inspired marketing thoughts

2005-10-07 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 10:27 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: [snip] Actually, the full name is OASIS OpenDocument Format for Office Applications. You *have* to abreviate it. I think that OpenDocument is the abreviation that is closest to the name and is still short. OpenDoc should be

Re: [Marketing] Conference inspired marketing thoughts

2005-10-07 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 15:50 +1300, Ian Laurenson wrote: [snip] As a Marcon a business may approach me about using OOo, but would like the level of support/stability that a large organisation can provide, and/or the automatic conversion of Excel macros. At this point I have become the point of

Re: [Marketing] Conference inspired marketing thoughts

2005-10-06 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 20:19 +1300, Ian Laurenson wrote: To me the focus of our marketing should be on the Open Document Format (ODF). I believe there are two distinct products to be marketed here. We are familiar with marketing OOo the product; one of the new features it has in 2.0 is support

[Marketing] Google and Sun to announce a tie-up over Star/OpenOffice.org?

2005-10-04 Thread John McCreesh
Google and Sun Microsystems will hold a press conference on Tuesday at which they're expected to announce a collaboration to bring StarOffice productivity applications to Google users. http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3553371 John

[Marketing] Thanks for a fabulous OOoConf

2005-09-30 Thread John McCreesh
I'd like to pass on the thanks of the entire OpenOffice.org community to the organisers of (in my opinion) the best-ever OOoConf. No-one was more surprised than Urska, Robert, and Davide when Koper was selected by the community as the venue for OOoConf 2005. It was an inspired choice, and the team

Re: [Marketing] No interest in official positioner?

2005-09-26 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 15:31 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [snip] Do you know the schedule of the CC meeting? I don't know even the day they meet. And we'll have to include it in the Style Manual before they decide about it. [snip] It's Wednesday afternoon:

Re: [Marketing] Fwd: [The OpenOffice.org Newsletter] OpenOffice is great alternative to Microsoft

2005-09-25 Thread John McCreesh
Thanks - added to http://www.openoffice.org/product2/reviews.html John On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 21:12 +0100, Deepankar Datta wrote: This is a good endorsement of the work on OOo Deepankar Begin forwarded message: From: Deepankar Datta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 September 2005 20:27:11

Re: [Marketing] Comments on Sep 7, U offers nearly free Office suite article

2005-09-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 20:43 -0400, Anthony Long wrote: This is roughly $53/copy the University paid, based on the number of students. I wonder how we can offer more value than Microsoft Office. This price decline is not unexpected in a mature product. I would expect to see MS-Office included

Re: [Marketing] Re: what do you think of Massachusetts' proposal to adopt OpenDocument format

2005-09-04 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 19:56 -0400, Don Parris wrote: [snip] In my book, Penguin in the Pew (a.k.a., PitP), I have a table demonstrating that the amount of productivity lost (on average), due to adjusting to the differences between Msft Office and OpenOffice.org, is really not all that

Re: [Marketing] MassGov OpenDocument

2005-09-04 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 21:43 +0100, Ian Lynch wrote: I think the Marketing leads would have to authorise this given what was said about representing OOo. First thing to do would be to draw up a list of willing people and then provide a common approach and set of procedures for dealing with

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice gets Very Good rating from PCmag.com

2005-08-23 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 06:51 -0700, Adam Moore wrote: Here is the link, congrats to all the developers of 2.0 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1850999,00.asp Well spotted - one for the web site... Thanks - John - To

Re: [Marketing] Logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, flyers, etc. for OpenOffice.org 2.0?

2005-08-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:38 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, We still probably have a few weeks, but I would like to start getting the marketing items for OpenOffice.org 2.0 ready, too. [snip] What OpenOffice.org 2.0 flyers and feature web pages do we have? Have they been localized

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???

2005-08-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:16 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, For OpenOffice.org 1.1 some community members and I created a standard presentation to be used as the basis for any kind of presentation about OpenOffice.org. AFAIK, the presentation even got translated into other languages

Re: [Marketing] Logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, flyers, etc. for OpenOffice.org 2.0?

2005-08-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 19:41 +0200, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: Hello John, On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 18:27 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: The flyers etc are on http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/marketingmaterials.html The only translations that I've seen on the issues are Sophie's

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???

2005-08-15 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 18:33 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:16 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, For OpenOffice.org 1.1 some community members and I created a standard presentation to be used as the basis for any kind of presentation about OpenOffice.org

Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: [newsletter] MS lochs down Scots Police deal]

2005-08-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 12:40 +0200, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: Hi, I'd be interested in having your opinions on this MS victory. I'm sure we can learn from our failures (although that was Sun who was the provider here) in this case. Any idea? Does somebody have more info on this? John? Ian? I

Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: [newsletter] MS lochs down Scots Police deal]

2005-08-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 13:57 +0200, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: [snip] This is where things start to get interesting. This customer is the Scottish Police; not a candy retailer. They certainly have some very sensitive data on their documents or somewhere on their servers and they'd let MS Office

Re: [Marketing] Templates

2005-08-12 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 14:08 +0800, Dark Magician wrote: Is there a repository of templates for OOo? MSO has a bunch of templates that you can just use immediately if it applies to you. I think this could help in promotin OOo especially to novice users. Charles Look under 'T' for 'Templates'

Re: [Marketing] Re: Windows vs. Linux/OSS today, part 2: Linux experts see strong server, weak desktop

2005-07-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 11:15 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: Ian, Since OOo came out, like 5 years ago, virtually *every* computer-related cost has dropped. I think you are giving *FAR* too much credit to OOo. I mean, 5 years ago, I couldn't buy a 2 GHz + machine for less than $2000, now I can get

[Marketing] Window closing on Office 2003

2005-07-21 Thread John McCreesh
Some interesting statistics about MS-Office: Office 2003 appears to be falling behind in targeted sales for this point in the product's lifecycle, according to Microsoft's own internal figures and guidelines. Just 15% of PCs are running Office 2003, two years into its life, with Office 12 - the

[Marketing] Microsoft's Office Marketing Strategy

2005-07-11 Thread John McCreesh
Microsoft is investing $300m in Office marketing for fiscal 2006 and expanding the number of field sales people from 450 to more than 1,000 - Chris Capossela corporate vice president for the information worker product management group. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/07/08/_office_partners/

Re: [Marketing] Summary LinuxTag Karlsruhe - Germany

2005-07-06 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 11:54 +0200, Jacqueline Rahemipour wrote: Hi *, (sorry for crossposting - if you want to answer, please do this only on one of the mailinglists) as some of you have interest in our german marketing activities and espacially our fairs I would like to give a short

Re: [Marketing] Database of companies who have made the switch to OO

2005-07-06 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:34 -0400, Mike Gifford wrote: Hello, I just got an enquiry about the adoption of OpenOffice by companies for day-to-day operations. Is there a database with this information somewhere? How about Novell? there's a link to their case study on

Re: [Marketing] Comment on opendocument format by gnumeric dev

2005-06-23 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:21 +0100, Deepankar Datta wrote: Hi Here's an interesting post on the problems with the opendoc format found by the gnumeric devs: The OpenDocument Standard v1.0 completely ignores semantics of spreadsheets, thus virtually ensuring that if two implementations of

[Marketing] [Fwd: Free exhibition stand for OpenOffice at LugRadio Live 25th June England]

2005-05-16 Thread John McCreesh
Anyone interested / available in the UK? Thanks - John Forwarded Message From: Matthew Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free exhibition stand for OpenOffice at LugRadio Live Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:29:40 +0100 Hi John, I'm one of the presenters

Re: [Marketing] OOo 2.0 impress template

2005-05-08 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 09:30 +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, I'm currently translating the A3 flyer in French. John, it seems that you've done a new Impress template for 2.0 presentation. Where can I find it ? and is it under PDL ? Someone posted it to one of the lists - I think it was

Re: [Marketing] Official News Report about OpenDocument and OASIS

2005-05-08 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 03:03 +0300, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Can anyone give me the URL for the official news release about OpenDocument result from the OASIS voting. I don't think OASIS have done their official announcement to the world yet. They will probably want to tie it up with the PR

[Marketing] Re: [website-dev] H1 heading on homepage

2005-05-05 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:34 +0300, Miikka Leskinen wrote: Hi, On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:10:37 -0700, Kay Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Miikka Leskinen wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:07 -0700, Kay Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Miikka Leskinen wrote: I might as

[Marketing] Financial Times looks at OOo 2.0

2005-04-21 Thread John McCreesh
The latest incarnation of OpenOffice was last month released for testing by users. Early reviews say it marks a big advance over earlier versions of the free word processing, spreadsheet and presentation package. http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1c5e53b8-b205-11d9-8c61-0e2511c8.html John

Re: [Marketing] Add our logo on Cd envelop

2005-04-16 Thread John McCreesh
Gontran - this is already permitted following your post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. John Gontran Van Eeckhoudt wrote: Hi We participate in show for the innovation in wallonia-Belgium ( exhibition's name Wallinno 2005 - www.wallinno.be http://www.wallinno.be -) We want to

[Marketing] Product Specification for OOo 2.0 (WAS: Flyer for the 2.0)

2005-04-14 Thread John McCreesh
Robert Vojta wrote: Yes, but you have to think in different way - make a long list of needed features, open source them and let people work on features / things they like to work on. With proper links, status, ... Believe me, Jacqueline has tried tried this on numerous occasions, and in

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice Confirms Buffer Overflow Flaw

2005-04-13 Thread John McCreesh
Jason Faulkner wrote: We (I) were set to do that yesterday, then was informed by Martin Hollmichel that the patch needed still to go through final QA. It will be ready tomorrow, and we'll do the full honors--announce, homepage, etc. Hrm. From a marketing point of view, wouldn't it have been

Re: [Marketing] www.openoffice.org site

2005-04-13 Thread John McCreesh
Robert Vojta wrote: Hallo all, just an idea - WDYT about www.openoffice.org site modification in this way: o www.openoffice.org - project.openoffice.org o create new, more user friendly, site, something like light-weight propagation site I think you know the sf.net. Try to compare

Re: [Marketing] Flyer for the 2.0

2005-04-13 Thread John McCreesh
Robert Vojta wrote: Hallo all, I hadn't time to participate in this project during last few weeks. I read all messages, I read archives, but found nothing about flyer for the OpenOffice.org 2.0. Anyone working on it? Is there a help needed? Developers are expecting 2.0 during June and the

[Marketing] Education Case Study

2005-04-06 Thread John McCreesh
Small college saves big with OpenOffice.org and Linux We've doubled the number of computers we have available to us with the cost-savings of OpenOffice.org versus Microsoft Office. We've made available open access to labs and cyber cafés using hardware that others would have just thrown away.

Re: [Marketing] OOo and Java

2005-03-29 Thread John McCreesh
Jacqueline McNally wrote: [snip] The majority of our users (~70%) use OOo on a Windows platform. If the GNU/Linux distributions fork the development to continue to develop a non-Java version of OOo, they will not be addressing the needs of most of our users. Or will they? One of the

[Marketing] OASIS Standard Lago for 2.0?

2005-02-27 Thread John McCreesh
Does anyone know if we will be able to use the 'OASIS Standard' logo http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/index.php in our marketing material for 2.0? Thanks - John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

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