Re: [discuss] OOoCon 2006 - 2009

2010-06-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Peter Junge wrote: in Beijing 2008 someone screwed up the registration data. We have been estimating that about 400 people have been attending in total. Thanks. Are the others about 400 participants? /Lars Lars Nooden -

Re: [discuss] Open office on Mac

2007-06-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Nathan, A native port for Aqua on OS X is well under way you can follow the details: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ A lot has happened in a short time recently. There is now a highly experimental version available for developers to preview, test and play with: http:/

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice- UNIX/LINUX

2007-05-15 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Tony Pursell wrote: PCW Magazine reviewed the 2.2 release with a link to its download site in its on-line news feed. It also included OOo in its review of office suites which was some time ago now. So the mags do not ignore us. A serious victory in the US market would be g

Re: [discuss] Praise and a suggestion

2007-05-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Thanks. It's good to hear that you find the program useful. On Fri, 4 May 2007, Charles B wrote: ... In the word processing program the Text frame was a full 360 box, but rather two side bars that extended the length of the text body and it had little two little sidebars on the header and foot

Re: [discuss] Website creation/mgmt app.

2007-05-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Edward, ... that I think would contribute to its use: More wizards/supplied templates ... Could you suggest some possible templates? Regards, -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opendocumentfellowship.org/about_us/c

Re: [discuss] Small adoption issue

2007-05-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 8 May 2007, M. Fioretti wrote: [snip] Just out of curiosity, have you already tried to explain them that sending their words as email body, rather than as an attachment (Word or OpenDocument doesn't matter) is much better for lots of reasons? It costs less if one is on a metered connectio

Re: [discuss] PDF Viewer/Editor for OpenOffice?

2007-05-04 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Thanks for the well thought out and articulate reply, André. A distinction has to be maintained regarding finished documents and working documents. And in the former, a further distinction needs to be made between the media used to render the document. On Fri, 4 May 2007, Andr� Wyrwa wrote:

Re: [discuss] PDF Viewer/Editor for OpenOffice?

2007-05-04 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 3 May 2007, Robert Derman wrote: IMHO all that is really needed is a program to convert PDFs to ODF files. Once they are in the ODF form, OOo can then edit them. Interesting, except that PDF is a wrapper format and could contain just about anything. Anyway, as mentioned editing PDFs

Re: [discuss] PDF Viewer/Editor for OpenOffice?

2007-05-02 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Print preview (called Page Preview, found in the File menu) should show you how the PDF will turn out. PDF is generally considered the end of the line for data: Write once, print zero or more times to paper, then delete. Most systems have a PDF viewer of some kind built in, so you don't have

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice and Microsoft Publisher Compatibility

2007-04-29 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Like Alexandro points out, OOo Draw is an option. It's pretty good and getting better. I've used it for posters and diagrams. + OOo Draw http://www.openoffice.org/product/draw.html I have no idea what MS Publisher is, but guessing from the first response, there might be three more op

Re: [discuss] openoffice impress

2007-04-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, allione wrote: I seek to record an open presentation Impress office with the format ... You'll get a better answer sending questions about how to use OpenOffice.org to the list [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. I see that you have a French address, so [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be

[discuss] Funcitonality that is *not* needed in OOo

2007-04-22 Thread Lars D . Noodén
We do *not* need this kind of funcitonality: http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11512/53/ -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opendocumentfellowship.org/about_us/contribute ---

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-20 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Cor Nouws wrote: Personally I have a preference for plain text mail only. ... +1 If you can't say it with text, then it's probably not worth saying. Not to mention that binary attachments (that includes zipped files like ODF) must be base64 encoded first and thus burn up

Re: [discuss] Re: ADVICE NEEDED

2007-04-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Gordon wrote: Not /quite/ true unfortunately - there is an add-on converter for previous versions of office that will read Office 2007 documents. Thanks. That's good to know for emergencies. However, in both the short and logn run it is in jsut about everybordy's bes

Re: [discuss] ADVICE NEEDED

2007-04-16 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Hester, On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Johnny Andersson wrote: Your file didn't come through. Some files do, most don't. Most lists block attachments. It's generally very bad form to try to send them to a whole list. I suspect that your Excel file is in the new Excel 2007 format, is that right?

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-14 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Rod Engelsman wrote: ... My short list of integrations: 1. Shared dictionaries. Particularly useful for those in jargon-rich professions. +1 2. The address book needs to be expanded somewhat and it needs to be editable from within OOo. ... +1 Maybe even working it ou

Re: [discuss] useful feedback

2007-04-09 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Vince Castanza wrote: ... To make a long story short: This problem would have been avoided if I had actually enabled the very useful "Always Create Backup Copy" option. Has there been any discussion about enabling this option by default? +1 or how about a "allow OpenO

Re: [discuss] Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, Alvin Lim Liangce wrote: Besides, what did MS do as a corporation that is morally wrong? ... But I will term them 'immoral' only if I hear about a special Microsoft unit where the employees work on creating viruses to break down competing products. ... That's a rather nar

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Andr� Wyrwa wrote: Both links are far away from being usability reviews. You won't find any true usability reviews. Nor is it likely that you will find any reviews, period. The days of a real product shootout are over a decade past. Recall that MS started a policy of pr

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Andr� Wyrwa wrote: Any pointers? Here's just two I recall: "Migrating to OpenOffice.org 90 per cent cheaper than to Microsoft Office 12" http://computerworld.com.sg/ShowPage.aspx?pagetype=2&articleid=2742&pubid=3&issueid=66 "Why Office 2007 won't sell"

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Yes, the disadvantage that MS Office 2007 has an extremely restricted, basically non-existent, choice of platforms also applies to earlier versions. That doesn't make the further reduction any more acceptable or helpful. That is one of the reasons why MSO is no longer suitable for business en

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Then do as you are doing, follow the bug reports, get other people to comment and vote for them. -Lars On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Peter Reaper wrote: [snip] IMO it would be to dramatically improve the usability: Zoom should align to center, not left (*not* fixed, IMO) http://qa.openoffice.org/issues

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Lars D . Noodén
The usability reviews of MSO 2007 place it well below OpenOffice.org, though that does not mean there isn't room for improvement. The price point for MS Office 2007 isn't so good either. It comes with more baggage than MS Office 2003, and that has seen record low uptake. Some of the main dis

Re: [discuss] .msi format

2007-03-25 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Peter, I can't see that anyone else has answered, so I'll take a crack at it. Apparetly OOo ships with a "Microsoft Installer (MSI) for Windows platforms" since version 2.0: http://installation.openoffice.org/ For the package itself, see: http://download.openoffice.org/2.

Re: [discuss] latex

2007-03-21 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, You might be interested in lookin at TeX4ht: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ I'm nnot sure if it does what you want but it is a step in the right direction at least. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future

Re: [discuss] Office add-on

2007-03-20 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Mathias Bauer wrote: I never heard that Massachussetts got anything from the ODF foundation that was testable. Do you have some information about this? I would be very interested to hear more. I would be too. I have no contacts (that I know of) with the Foundation and rea

Re: [discuss] Office add-on

2007-03-19 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Dennis, In addition to the add-on from Sun, the OpenDocument Foundation has been working on one. That one is the one being tested by Massachusetts, if I recall correctly. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opend

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice

2007-03-16 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Jonathon Blake wrote: [snip] Microsoft's UI is "intuitive" only because people are familiar with it. [ I don't remember the cites,but there are several journal articles on the unintuitive nature of MS Windows versus the Unix command line with naive users.] It's rather a us

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice

2007-03-10 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Martin, Nothing is missing. E-mail is not a normal part of office packges, since everyone generally prefers to choose their own. However, you have a number of excellent 'compatible' packages to choose from: * Thunderbird (not to be confused with the beverage) is easy to use and cust

Re: [discuss] Re: Don't Buy from www-openoffice.com

2007-02-19 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hmm. The question of trademarks arise here. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opendocumentfellowship.org/about_us/contribute On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Gordon wrote: Aaron Stevens wrote: Goto: www-openoffice.comnot w

Re: [discuss] Re: Competing with office 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Also, I'd like to think that OOo is about making a useful productivity suite and *not* about copying MS Office, especially the interface mistakes. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opendocumentfellowship.org/about_us/co

Re: [discuss] formatting mismatch between MS office and open office documents

2007-02-01 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Lars, You might find more help on the users@openoffice.org list, it's for questions like the one you pose and there is a lot of traffic. When you try there, you might add some more details regarding which versions of MS Word and MS PowerPoint are giving the problem and which format you a

Re: [discuss] MSDOS user ..

2007-02-01 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Jack, We'd need to hear about which brand, model and version of database you are actually using. Is it by chance dBase II, dBase III or dBase III+ ? The older systems had rather simple file structures, most of which are documented and supported in some way. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PR

Re: [discuss] Publisher equivalent?

2007-01-20 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Julia, If you are getting into desktop publishing, please do yourself a favor and look at Quark or Adobe's InDesign. These are what the professionals use. If you are looking for an open source option, Inkscape is closer to Illustrator and is 'compatible' with OpenOffice.org or any non-MS

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Michael Brauer wrote: ... This toolkit actually would just be another ODF implementation (or product, to be more precise, because the toolkit will share its code with OOo). I think everyone is in agreement that the toolkit is a very good idea whose time has come. One of

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Ian Lynch wrote: At the current state of play in the politics I'd play up the fact that there is expertise in ODF in many applications and communities, particularly when talking to governments. +1 -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now

Re: [discuss] Calendar

2007-01-11 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Darren, You will find a number of calendars avaialable. I would recommend trying Sunbird first: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/ -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future http://opendocumentfellowship.o

[discuss] trolls and WMF/EMF Processing Buffer Overflow

2007-01-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Heads up that trolls are starting to bait with re-publishing warnings of a closed issue: http://secunia.com/advisories/23612/ http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=70042 -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future

Re: [discuss] SHARE an OpenOffice CALC spreadsheet

2006-12-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Sharing is usually a function of the operating system and file system used. So if you have a network file system like AFS or Samba or Netware, then you can put Calc files in a shared folder. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data now and in the future

[discuss] Issue #49991 Embedding SVG graphics in OOo

2006-12-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Issue #49991 Embedding SVG graphics in OOo has been moved to the drawing category. If you voted for it, then you have to re-cast your votes: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=49991 A related isssue, #2497 allow import of SVG, deals with import. http://www.openoffi

Re: [discuss] Re: Idea's for openoffice.

2006-12-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Kelvin Eldridge wrote: ... and it takes quite a bit of reading on the website to find this ... Kelvin, since you seem to have found it, would you mind posting the link? A link from the NVU site will do, as would one from Linspire or one ofthe relevant mailing list archives

Re: [discuss] Idea's for openoffice.

2006-12-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Andrew, That's a good idea to split out the HTML editor from Writer, though it might be userful to retain some kind of ability to export to XHTML+CSS. If you're looking for web editors, then two that are "compatible" ;) with OpenOffice.org are Nvu and Mozilla Composer (now called Seamonke

Re: Re: [discuss] feature request: Impress

2006-11-23 Thread Lars D . Noodén
The best place to ask would be the list users@openoffice.org There might be some way to do what you are asking with OOo, but usually that kind of thing is handled by the operating system. In OS X, it's some thing like fast user switching. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOf

Re: [discuss] remote update of OOo on old systems

2006-11-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I myself cannot read German nor have anything to with MS Windows, but other than that am willing to help. -Lars [snip] see issue http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=71266 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: [snip] Lars, As the issue shows, it is in the translation

Re: [discuss] Engineering format - number support [s]

2006-11-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Nick, On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Nick Radonic [c] wrote: Further to my suggestion that Engineering format be supported in the OO spread sheet, I found this formatting code on the web - consider incorporating it in some form [snip] That might be good to mention in the actual bug report:

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Re: Office 2007

2006-11-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [snip] Have you got into writing OOoBasic? A lot of users and developers have created really cleaver ways to create components with custom dialogs based from the code. Which is true that Basic is very verbosed is also true that some developers have

Re: [discuss] Engineering format - number support [s]

2006-11-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Nick Radonic [c] wrote: ... I really miss the 'engineering format' for scientific notation. This forces the exponent to be a multiple of 3. ... I also used it on my TI-57/58/59 calculators way back when in the 70's. It is so much more readable than straight scientific nota

Re: [discuss] remote update of OOo on old systems

2006-11-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Thanks. German's fine. The person I'm forwarding it to is fine with German and not so good at English anyway. BTW the OOo web site servers the the attachment for that issue there up as "application/msword" That's probably worth a bug report. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) O

[discuss] remote update of OOo on old systems

2006-11-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Can OOo be updated automatically on desktop systems that are still running Windows? If so, how? -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: [discuss] Referendum on changing length of CC service

2006-11-02 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Ian Lynch wrote: I would like also to propose that the CCR rep should voted in entirely from community votes and not by a short listing process that is done by the existing CC members as an improvement in the democratic process. +1 Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) O

Re: [discuss] openoffice.org "outlook" version

2006-10-31 Thread Lars D . Noodén
As it stands now in the current versions nothing is stopping or hindering use of e-mail clients. There is Thunderbird for e-mail: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ and Sunbird for your calendar: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ As this question does seem to come

Re: [discuss] Student seeks participants for thesis survey about Open Source

2006-10-28 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Some of the questions are pretty vague and it is hard to know how to interpret them. e.g. the patent question The survey's an interesting first draft, though. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! On Sat, 28 Oct 2006, Florian Effenb

Re: [discuss] dates [OT] Easter

2006-10-25 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Calculating holidays (e.g. Easter, Passover, Ramadan, J-dagen) would be a useful function to have in Calc. Maybe CPAN's Date::calc could be used as a base and when the function eastersunday() is fixed, there can be others. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO

[discuss] Mention of OOo in ITWire

2006-10-11 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Stan Beer. "Why Office 2007 won't sell" ITWire. 2006-10-10. http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/6214/983/ "There is no doubt that Office 2007 is a slicker product than Open Office.org 2.0. However, for most users' needs at home or in the office the open source product does the job. It'

[discuss] Tutorials and self-study for OOo

2006-10-04 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Where are tutorials and self-study modules for OOo to be found? Which project is responsible and what about internationalization of such materials? -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! ---

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Ian Lynch wrote: ... I have been voting for SVG draw support from the beginning :-) Which issue is most pressing? http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=49991 -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! -

Re: [discuss] Wordstar transfer and also does it have 128 AES (or better)?

2006-09-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I don't have any WordStar files around any more to test, but it does look like it is among the import filters that OOo Writer has: http://framework.openoffice.org/files/documents/25/897/filter_description.html From what I recall though, Wordstar files where simply 127 bit ASCII with th

RE: [discuss] SourceForge jobs

2006-09-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Lars D. Noodén wrote: [snip] However, the real productivity, and therefore money, is in customizing the software or further development. (Sorry, I sent before finishing.) Both of those a very small compared to the money that using the software brings in. Or in, non

RE: [discuss] SourceForge jobs

2006-09-13 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Randolph D Garrett wrote: I'm not sure what you mean, that retail sales of software is slowly becoming history? No. I mean that it is not relevant, except for slowing down commerce. No. Get past the myth of selling copies of the same package over and over. It was done

Re: [discuss] Re: Idea: Email program

2006-08-31 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, NoOp wrote: Evolution (email, calendar, PIM, task manager, address book etc)* http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html *Disclaimer: I use Mozilla SeaMonkey as my email client & browser. However Evolut

Re: [discuss] Idea: Email program

2006-08-30 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, james.elain wrote: From James Thanks Lars..I am out of my Depth..I dont know what FOSS is...Some allow some dont..yer It's an acronymn for "Free and Open Source Software" Free Software ("free as in freedom"): http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

Re: [discuss] Idea: Email program

2006-08-30 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Some of these are FOSS, some aren't: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Jonathon Blake wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the ten applications are: Text Editor If you mean Word Processor, then you have OOo and eventually KOffice. AbiWord. Audio Editor Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Re: [discuss] Linux versions

2006-08-28 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I've put in a request that the download be labeled differently: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69031 Wouldn't most apt-based distributions have OpenOffice.org themselves? -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant !

Re: [discuss] The Greatest FUD of ALL: Th ank you Louis Suárez-Potts

2006-08-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Seems to consist mostly of name calling. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [discuss] Missing Product

2006-08-15 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Neil, OpenOffice.org Writer does have an HTML editor built in. Maybe that would meet the needs for a one-off class project. You can find it in the menu Open -> New -> HTML Document There are plenty of other tools available that won't break your bank account. Nvu is one, http:

Re: [discuss] France says OpenOffice.org is not secure enough

2006-08-15 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, discuss@openoffice.org wrote: For at least the last ten years, security experts have also said "do not open documents from unknown sources". Bzzzt. Thanks for playing. Statements like that would disqualify the speaker from being any kind of security expert: Malware is on

Re: [discuss] Free viewer for OpenDocument, TextMaker, Microsoft Word, and RTF

2006-07-12 Thread Lars D . Noodén
It's an interesting idea, but I only see a link to a Windows version. If you can point to a binary for linux or OS X, then I'd take a look. I notice Works is not on the list of formats, nor is WordPerfect. Did you use GTK+ or Qt to make the viewer? -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[discuss] Business Week mentiones OOo

2006-06-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
"More To Life Than The Office" http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_27/b3991412.htm?chan=topStories_ssi_5 Unfortunately the article refers to it as a 'clone' of MS Office. Thought it does at least mention that it is a viable option. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [discuss] alleged OOo virus

2006-06-01 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Ah. But it's not the story that replicates on its own so much as the headlines. And I would posit that the majority of people who read news not only skim the headlines, but also consider the healdines to be representative of the stories they are attached to. These folks in turn parrot the he

Re: [discuss] alternative to PayPal

2006-05-30 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Jim Sage wrote: ... I couldn't find another viable option; ... Agreed. We need another option for the many who have qualms about PayPal. What other options do you know of ? (besides post-giro) -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 S

[discuss] Changing of Sun's CEO's

2006-04-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
McNealy is going out and Schwartz is stepping in. Has there been a statement about how this will/won't affect java and OpenOffice.org ? Also will the new CEO Schwartz, as opposed to McNealy's whining, be more supportive of the GPL and the LGPL ? McNealy's done some good things during his ten

[discuss] Changing of Sun's CEO's

2006-04-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
McNealy is going out and Schwartz is stepping in. Has there been a statement about how this will/won't affect java and OpenOffice.org ? Also will the new CEO Schwartz, as opposed to McNealy's whining, be more supportive of the GPL and the LGPL ? McNealy's done some good things during his tenur

Re: [discuss] software patents

2006-04-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Jonathon Blake wrote: [snip] One factor to bear in mind: Every software patent that has ever been issued, hs been issued despite it being both obvious, and based upon prior art. That prior art can range from being merely a year old, to being several millenia old. [snip] T

Re: [discuss] software patents

2006-04-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Open source is affected by software patents the same way as closed source: both are harmed. However, sw patents govern use. So the harm is not limited to developers but *any computer user* at all will have problems. Thus it is a serious question for businesses, agencies, organizations and in

Re: [discuss] Norwegian government promotes open standards

2006-04-15 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: [snip] I think, btw, it would be useful to start a section of our newsletter focused on ODF news. That is an excellent idea. I'm quite excited by the progress of Norway in ICT policy these recent years. It'd be nice if the newsletter were to us

Re: [discuss] Erase and reformat to remove OOo

2006-04-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Robin Laing wrote: I can see a benefit to OOo here. Those users that take their computer into their local shop to be fixed may find that they have lost all their "borrowed" software as well as their files. Now they have to go out and "borrow" the disk again. Now is a time

[discuss] Erase and reformat to remove OOo

2006-04-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I notice that the 're-format and re-install' mantra is being trotted out again for Windows users. This has some severe implications for OOo's market share as well as any other non-MS software: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1945808,00.asp As far as I know, there is no way to do a

Re: [discuss] StarOffice or OpenOffice.org

2006-04-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Thanks. Some of the short descriptions of OOo and SO could use updating to reflect this. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Patents are wrong for software but right for inventions. Write: http://wwwdb.europarl.eu.int/ep6/owa/p_meps2.repartition?ilg=EN On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Jo

[discuss] StarOffice or OpenOffice.org

2006-04-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Which code is used as the base for the other these days, StarOffice or OpenOffice.org ?? -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Patents are wrong for software but right for inventions. Write: http://wwwdb.europarl.eu.int/ep6/owa/p_meps2.repartition?ilg=EN

Re: [discuss] Fwd: ODF Article for ILTA White Paper

2006-03-24 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Louis, Could you please post the URL? The tinyurl.com one doesn't work and in general archives poorly. e.g. 2,5,10 years from now www.ilta.org/whatever will be more useful than tinyurl.com/foo -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep the market open by keeping software patents out

Re: [discuss] Loading localization strings at runtime

2006-03-23 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Mathias Bauer wrote: [snip] Do you mean OOo should load its strings from editable text files to make it easier to change them? Well, at least for menus we already do this, nor for dialogs. [snip] That is what I meant. It would be useful if the dialogs and help text also d

Re: [discuss] Loading localization strings at runtime

2006-03-21 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hinkelmann wrote: Hi Lars, in fact I am working on such a feature allowing in a spezial debug version to modify strings in a text file that are displayed after a restart. But please do not ask me when this feature is available and working for all kind of resource types. Cheers, Ivo Lars D. No

[discuss] Loading localization strings at runtime

2006-03-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
This was brought up on the OOo-Users list and then in a discussion offlist: How feasible would it be for OOo to load strings (e.g. menu labels and dialog messages) at runtime? Apparently Opera does this already, see xx.lng where xx is the two letter ISO-639 language code. Having strings load at

Re: [discuss] supporting Engineering Notation in Calc (was: Upping a Priority )

2006-03-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Jonathon Blake wrote: I was going to show the correlation between priority and votes, but all my vote search inquiries are coming back "Your query returned no results." Aargh. All of my searches are coming back with that result. ... My searches usually do that too. That

Re: [discuss] supporting Engineering Notation in Calc (was: Upping a Priority )

2006-03-17 Thread Lars D . Noodén
It's problem # 5930 : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5930 and has 13 votes now, including mine. Engineering notation is common enough that Calc should support it. -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep the market open by keeping software patents out

Re: [discuss] Swedish language

2006-03-11 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Hi, Seppo, The Swedish language project for OOo has only recently started up and there is a lot to catch up on. Can I ask which page you are refering to? In general if you find any misspellings that you wish to report, you can send them to me and they will be fixed in one of the later releas

[discuss] OOo in the news

2006-03-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
The article dusts off and trots out a lot of ancient FUD and various canards, but it does mention OpenOffice.org towards the bottom: http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,39020463,39256042,00.htm -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep the market open by keeping software paten

[discuss] OOoForum

2006-03-05 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Who would be a good contact at OOoForum (oooforum.org) to try begging a hostname ( i.e. sv.oooforum.org ) for a localization project? It'd be just a matter of a DNS entry, not support and stuff. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Swedish Native-Lang co-lead http://sv.openoffic

Re: [discuss] New incubator project : education

2006-03-01 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I already voted +1, but would like to add that Ian Lynch's experience in this area ought to be tapped. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents endanger the legal certainty of software. Keep them out of the EU by writing your MEP, keep the market open.

Re: [discuss] New incubator project : education

2006-02-28 Thread Lars D . Noodén
+1 Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents endanger the legal certainty of software. Keep them out of the EU by writing your MEP, keep the market open. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For add

Re: [discuss] Icons for Base, Calc, Draw, Math, and Impress

2006-02-28 Thread Lars D . Noodén
e, 28 Feb 2006, Mathias Bauer wrote: Lars D. Noodén wrote: Where can I find large icons for OOo components? Are you talking about icons on the desktop or icons inside of OOo (e.g. in the "File-New" menu? Best regards, Mathias -

Re: [discuss] Icons for Base, Calc, Draw, Math, and Impress

2006-02-28 Thread Lars D . Noodén
iting your MEP, keep the market open. On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:08:10 -0500 (EST) Lars D. Noodén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where can I find large icons for OOo components? Presumably they are in the source code, but it would take ages for me to down

Re: [discuss] What if Microsoft went out and bought OpenOffice.org ...

2006-02-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Probably. Right now OOo benefits hugely from Sun's developers. Any transition to an independent foundation would have to factor that into the process. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents endanger the legal certainty of software. Keep them out of the EU by wr

Re: [discuss] What if Microsoft went out and bought OpenOffice.org ...

2006-02-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Yes, it would slow things down for a while, but as Robert mentioned OOo would probably just fork and there would be a substantial delay while things get re-organized. MS had been bothering Sun earlier, but I think that it's more likely that this is part of or an offshoot from the MSO 2007 adve

[discuss] Icons for Base, Calc, Draw, Math, and Impress

2006-02-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Where can I find large icons for OOo components? Presumably they are in the source code, but it would take ages for me to download it and rummage there. Where else might I find the icons? I'm looking for something large enough to re-use in brochures and posters. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROT

[discuss] Icons for Base, Calc, Draw, Math, and Impress

2006-02-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Where can I find large icons for OOo components? Presumably they are in the source code, but it would take ages for me to download it and rummage there. Where else might I find the icons? I'm looking for something large enough to re-use in brochures and posters. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [discuss] What if Microsoft went out and bought OpenOffice.org ...

2006-02-27 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I thought that was much of the goal with Mono - to take OSS developers out of circulation and put them to work on something 100% dependend on MS. Seriously though, MS has been a growth-though-acquisition style company buying companies if it can't make a deal to get the technology, and making a

Re: [discuss] Web Office Suite: best of breed products

2006-02-23 Thread Lars D . Noodén
That's an advantage of commodities and it applies to data formats as much as to electricity. Buyers (that's us) like a market where services, data, and protocols are interchangeable. Sellers dislike it, though beyond the short term they benefit from it, too. We've seen the benefit from open

Re: [discuss] Web Office Suite: best of breed products

2006-02-23 Thread Lars D . Noodén
In some areas, electricity is not reliable as it once was. Enron's greed-based outages and the MS-based east coast outage are two example, but I can think of 3 formerly high end european countries with electricity problem (compared to the 80's). Though still it is more reliable than network c

Re: [discuss] Re: Calc - Moving cells in and out of formula references

2006-02-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Yes. I've said that doesn't work. How can I confirm which version of OOo I am actually running? I am under the assumption that it was 2.01 since that's what I downloaded, but the menu Help->About doesn't get that specific. Just to be sure, I've tried it again and get the same result. If I

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