fixes everything, it just hasn't happened yet.
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Microsoft DNS service terminates abnormally when it recieves a response
to a DNS query that was never made. Fix Information: Run your DNS
service on a different platform.
-- BugTraq
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he Radeon has
T&L support it could wind up faster than this card.
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I sat laughing snidely into my notebook until they showed me a PC running
Linux And did this PC choke? Did it stutter? Did it, even on
after I press enter..:(
> even sysrq wont work anymore..
These numbers sound like AGP driving strength values suggested by various
FAQ's. Is that what's being played with here?
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We the people of the De
m, most of the reports I've
seen here are that people having that particular problem are using VIA
chipsets.
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if (cb) ((cb->obj)->*(cb->ui_func))();
tausq: who the HELL wrote that ?
me :)
* knghtbrd flogs tausq
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you need that I can pull everything apart and insert it.
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"Java for the COBOL Programmer"
who writes these things?
people on crack
and cobol programmers
:)
that's redundant.
00:00.0 Host br
s is also what I'm seeing?)
I was hoping my problems were perhaps VIA-only issues. It would seem I'm
wrong there.
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where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket?
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s for straightening that out.. (D'OH!)
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abuse me. I'm so lame I sent a bug report to
debian-devel-changes
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; Yep, works now. Thanks for your help.
Er, when did this change? I have been using ati all along here.. (There
is currently a TNT2 in my box pending some change that may actually affect
things..) Have I been using the wrong driver or something? The last
driver I tried was somewhere around a
Eric's fixes for AGP support
I went looking through dri-devel a bit to see if I could find more
information, not much luck. What was fixed?
(here's hoping for a very good answer.. hehe)
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A friend of mi
;s (KT7-RAID).. This
machine has NEVER booted windoze and has had its BIOS cleared a couple
times.
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A7V (KT133 chipset). I'll let
> you know how I go.
Thanks Gareth, I appreciate it. And good luck, if you run into the
problems I have, you'll need it. =/
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"Now we'll have to kill you."
-- Linus Torvalds
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ted,
and more or less ignored. That and its general lack of speed indicate
that I really don't want to use it much longer. It beats the crap out of
the Voodoo2 for most things though.
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I still think you gu
e crashes within 30 seconds
on these boards. I'm very interested in what you've done to get it
working. She has a KT7-RAID, I have a KT7A.
I'm considering getting something with an AMD chipset, but AFAIK there are
issues with USB being quite screwed up on those boards.
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s work fine (AiW, VE, LE,
etc) but I don't think I'd count on that yet. Your BX should be as solid
as it'll get for any video card you throw at it.
Gareth said last week that he's ordered a new KT133A-based board and will
try to debug these problems when he gets it. You might be w
e
seeing the same problem I am with them - or rather that they're not seeing
them at all. Is this local to the Radeon or to DRI in general? It's
kinda odd and I'm not sure why it's doing that.
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CosmicRay: you complete me
err...
heh
* BenC goes back to coding
* elmo looks at benc
something we should know about you and cosmicray, Ben? :)
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t helping, I can try
turning it off.
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Win 98 Psychic edition: We'll tell you where you're going tomorrow
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r kernel that I ran and had no problems at all ! ...
If I had to guess, ACPI. Turn it off. Since you have had luck with the
Radeon, which motherboard are you using?
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We've upped our standards, so up yours!
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cking out, but it's spendy and as
I said, it might not be directly applicable to anything you're doing. If
you're interested in indirect applications, it's chock full of them.
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* TribFurry only gets
pset,
Intel chip, Celeron 600ish I think) and I'm going to try it in a BX-based
Linux box to confirm that the Radeon 64 driver works. I suspect it will,
but in that case the problem is most likely agpgart (I think? Gareth, can
you think of any other probable causes?)
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you mention simply sets this value
regardless of whether or not it's an option in the BIOS?
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* knghtbrd is gone - zzz - messages will be snapped like wet towels at all
of the people who have stolen the trademark
ion, but how do
I change this? I'd like to UNDERclock the card and see if that has any
effect on how long it takes for the thing to die. Given that this is
starting to sound similar to the K7 optimization bug affecting some VIA
based boards, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I
ssive problems when it
> overrides/conflicts with Via/Sis/Ali's AGPgart. I don't believe this
> issue is applicable to Linux.
Ack, I was afraid of that. That means I'm back to having not a clue why
it doesn't work. =(
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me real soon right? =)
(I'd probably have gone for an AiW card too if they bothered to make a 64
version.. If it ever DID get supported I could recover myself a PCI slot
from the bt878..)
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Program received
since it would neatly bypass the whole
mess and is more likely to make this combination work faster.
Someone at VIA undoubtedly knows the exact nature of the AGP compatibility
and how to work around it, but I haven't managed to find a contact yet.
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th workaround for Win00. Given
that I have the same setup, same symptoms, and that people with other
Radeon's do not experience problems, it's the only likely cause of
problems that has not already been discounted by testing.
Here's hoping the VIA guy wanting to submit drivers an
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:21:12PM -0600, Brian Paul wrote:
> The dri-patches list is what you want. Subscribe at
> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=387
Thanks, Mercury told me this about 30 seconds after I sent the message. I
just sent off a subscription request.
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milar format using a tool like cvs2cl,
but for those who can afford the extra influx of email, a list is more
convenient (and lots faster - have any idea how long it takes to run
cvs2cl on a tree the size of DRI's?)
Just a humble request/suggestion from a humble(? me? bwahahaha) GL coder.
my eyes open, but at the same time I'm
> > looking into the possibility of a PCI card to replace my Voodoo2 and
> > possibly some sort of setup that way.
>
> Actually, I'm running the bus at 100 MHz. Dual Slot1 300A Celerons
> drilled & soldered to run at dual 45
it does is killing it
faster? I'm using the "quakeforge" CVS tree, usually the nq-glx target.
It also happens with the qw-client-glx target.
If I am real lucky, we are experiencing the same bug.
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RF
..]
> I have yet to see anything die while I'm not playing Quake 3, so it seems
> GL-related. I suppose I should try running UT for a while and see if
> similar lockups occur.
Well, if yu manage to track down the problem, I would be interested in the
result. How does it work if you dis
?
I believe so. I actually had wondered about that.
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how bout a policy policing policy with a policy for changing the
police policing policy
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ot; "640x480" "320x240"
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
I would have to check, but I believe that it's already using 32.
Yes, according to xdpyinfo:
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32
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ering an 8x16 font on an 80x30 screen than any *term rendering
a 10x20 font at ... however big I can make it at 1024x768. But I'll spare
you my rants about fbcon performance, I just gave one to l-k about the DUL
and one an evening is enough. =)
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o2 is really, really slow. Worse, since it only runs in a
window, I cannot use gdb on a GLX application.
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Something must be Done
This is Something
Therefore, This must be Done
-- The Thatcherite Syllogis
ho is still using those? ;)
>
> latest 2.2.x kernel has the /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build thing.
So I see.. I left 2.2.x a couple versions ago for USB that didn't panic
the kernel every so often. ;) In that case, it should be used (and now
is used, so it's a moot point.
work with 2.2 kernels of course, but who is still using those? ;)
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I generally don't use anything that has "experimental" and
"warning" pasted all over it
no, I'm not
g stably.
I don't have the v4l module loaded as I was told it's kinda experimental
and not required. I would expect that it's more likely a kernel issue
than X, but if someone else has seen it, I figure there would be a message
or two on l-k about it.
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Tag, you're it!
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to imply a major rework was in order. Active development
tends to change code a lot, however if there was a major rework being
planned I'm probably the last person likely to be breaking the news to
anyone. =p
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I invoke Espy's law, which states that you all suck :P
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UHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
Those devices I have compiled in are necessary for booting with a USB
keyboard, you could change them and use modules for a USB mouse only, but
as I said I won't go back to legacy devices personally.
If that isn't EVERYTHING that can be said on the subject of USB
und is to make sure you explicitly link everything
whether you use them explicitly or not. For example GTK apps needed to
actually be linked against xlib and the like. Something related to -fPIC
I think.
2.95.3.ds5-10 is what I have and it claims to fix the problem.
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the purpose, I'm rather frustrated to not be able to use
it really at all after more than two weeks of trying now.
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"Nominal fee". What an ugly sentence. It's one of those things that
implies that if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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hardware combinations
before you buy anything to find out if they work for someone who already
has that combination.
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rcw: Oh yay---I haven't been involved in a good flamewar in at
least ... 5 minutes!
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 07:57:52PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> There's definately something wrong. Everytime I go to reboot from the
> serial console after this happens, my computer locks up :-)
Can you SysRq a reboot? s, u, and b - easy to remember.
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low, so
I can't pin it down. Unfortunately, I haven't got a serial console to try
and debug it (although I'm starting to think I need to try and allocate
one...)
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Yes, America is a country based on h
at have happened since then. In other words,
same reasons you'd run a 2.4 kernel right now.
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you people are all insane.
knight: sure, that's why we work on Debian.
Knghtbrd: get in touch with your inner nutcase.
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ng on the gears to make it look like they're made out
of glass with lots of tiny air bubbles in them or something. The result
should be beautiful (although torturous to DRI and your video card...)
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* gxam wonde
ut of it, text mode is probably
corrupted beyond fixing. A reboot is probably a very good idea at this
point and if SysRq saves you you can even get a clean shutdown. Stupid
me, I forgot to compile it in to -ac26 so I had to just kill it. I'll fix
that before trying to fu
rly wrong about the state of the radeon
driver. I still can't recommend it to QuakeForge users because I don't
believe it's ready for that yet, but it's definitely not as bad as I was
saying it was once you get things just the way it likes them. I don't
know that I hav
out a
microscope for reading the chips are VT8363A and VT82C686B.
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"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot
change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom
to
an's fixed already with my network card. Without recent -ac's, my nic
pukes on about 20% of the traffic you send through it. I could try to
backport the current natsemi driver, but I'm a little bit leery of trying
to backport those memory and filesystem fixes as kernel code i
nges and apps like netscape tended to significantly
reduce life expectency of my processes. If that's the case, I was
completely wrong about the radeon driver. I understand it'd also mean
I've got a bigger problem and it wouldn't matter which card I was using
until the bug i
gt; Also as long as you don't have the following lines in your XFree86
> config file, you don't have to worry about removing any of the kernel
> modules.
>
> Load "drm"
> Load "dri"
>
> If those aren't there, the DRI will not activate.
They&
tever demon has been unleashed. If
that happens, I may not be worried about DRI too much by then and this
list may get somewhat quieter. =)
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Since this database is not used for profit, and since entire works are
n't, I'll comment the drm/dri modules out and see how that works.
Just to be on the safe side, I will also make sure radeon/agpgart are not
loaded in the kernel. It'll probably take a day or so to know if that
works, but I suspect I'll know in a couple hours if it doesn't.
et me
> guess -- you have an AMD chipset? An AMD 750 perhaps?
VIA Apollo
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xtifr - beware of james when he's off his medication =>
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the
Mesa 3.5 branch. I'm seriously regretting my choice of the Radeon at the
moment, that's for sure.
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== Signoff: Beregond (Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' --
they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM.) at 02:00PM
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:07:44PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > I have a 32 meg DDR radeon on an athlon slot A box. I have got DRI-CVS to
> > install and all the modules are loaded corectaly, but when I startx i get
> > a white screen with an outline of console and a b
thing I've said
this past week about it (mostly related to this damned Radeon), it is the
most stable and highest performance solution.
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partycle: I seriously do need a vacation from this package.
are off for other cards, configs,
and any attempt to use 3D. Good luck, I saw your nightmare in #dri and
for some reason suspect you'll be needing it.
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mariab - don't think Debian hasn't had some very stu
e the other direction.
Has anyone succeeded yet in building the patch? If so, I won't waste a
bunch of time building my own patch. I've got a Radeon QE and looking at
the list's archives I'd rather spend the time trying to track down these
and other Radeon-related bugs.
e the other direction.
Has anyone succeeded yet in building the patch? If so, I won't waste a
bunch of time building my own patch. I've got a Radeon QE and looking at
the list's archives I'd rather spend the time trying to track down these
and other Radeon-related bugs.
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