Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-05-03 Thread Nicklas Johnson
So basically a K3S :-D The only thing I think it might be nice to see is a way for ALE (ie, HFlink) to work/scan totally silently, which I guess would mean totally diode-switched filters and a mode where the ATU could automatically be bypassed during receive and enabled during transmit? (the latt

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-05-03 Thread Robert G Strickland via Elecraft
Keep it modular. Keep the "basic unit" simple. Focus on performance, not bells and whistles. Keep the UI simple and direct, functional, not "cute." Remember that there's no "forever upward;" asymptotes do exist. Investigate how the price can be brought down [if at all] without sacrificing perform

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin W7SUA
Phase lock the synthesizer to the external 10 MHz reference. 73, tom w7sua On 3/24/2019 5:14 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: Inquiring minds want to know: What would you all like to see as a “K4” ? Eric elecraft.com __ Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-29 Thread Bill
Bingo!!!  I used a Genovation for K3 control (placing the keypad beside me at the edge of my desk). Worked great - until the keypad quit. I reverted back to using HRD. Then I got an IC-7300 with the touch screen and a stylus.  Moved the radio out on the desk so I can reach it easily (and lost

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-28 Thread Gary Smith
A thought on touch screens. I love them on my cell phone for the most part, very easy to use and all in the palm of my hand. Clever technology that is very freeing. As to them on the radio, I have a different take; I'm getting old and I'm finding years after some accidents, two years on cru

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-28 Thread Robert G Strickland via Elecraft
Some thoughts on the K4... Make/keep it modular. Start with a basic radio that provides an excellent electronic foundation for whatever builds on top of it. The model in this respect is the initial K3. This allows for flexibility in configuring a radio that can accommodate the different needs

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Peter, No problem. We certainly love the input, but this volume of email quickly saturates a large number of our readers, so we try to keep it under control. Of course, direct emails with suggestions to both of us are always welcome! :-) 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 3/26/2019 6:34 AM, Pete

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:15 PM, Charlie T wrote: > > Is this some sort of covert program to cut-off or, at the very least, slow > down the current K3s sales as more potential buyers are convinced to change > their minds and decide to wait for the K4 ? Most definitely not! People are just off

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Charlie T
Is this some sort of covert program to cut-off or, at the very least, slow down the current K3s sales as more potential buyers are convinced to change their minds and decide to wait for the K4 ? Because it certainly SEEMS to me to be doing just that! Personally, at around six large for a loaded

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Peter Hall
Eric, I apologise for missing that mail but am amazed you'd want to shut down the discussion. But it's your sandpit! Cheers, Peter Sent from my iPad > On 26 Mar 2019, at 10:32 pm, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > wrote: > > Folks - we closed this “Will there be a K4” thread yesterday. In t

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - we closed this “Will there be a K4” thread yesterday. In the interest of relieving reader email overload from the large number of email postings, let's let it rest for now. 73, Eric Mooderator elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft m

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-26 Thread Dave G3WGN M6O
oft keys. Keeps the PBJ off the screen. > > 8. A kit version, as much as feasible. > > > Ted, KN1CBR > > >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > From: > elecraft-bounces@.qth > < > elecraft-bounces@.qth > > On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft > Sent: Sunda

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-26 Thread Larry Libsch
Hi Eric,         I own an early K3, early KAT500, early KPA500, and early KPA1500. Each a great product with great documentation and customer support. I now also own a  FLEX 6600. SDR is the future of radio. The P3 just is not state of the art, and it's poor value for its cost. Its shortcomings

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2019 4:39 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: Cardinal rule of business: New products, new products, new products. Also a great way to go out of biz, getting rolled over by much bigger companies with much higher volume. Wayne and Eric know their place in the ham market -- indeed, they have d

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Richards
RIGHT ON, Mr. Wayne  !! Good answer. K8JHR On 3/25/2019 9:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Of course. But we’re not going to tell everyone about our secret fishing spots. This particular pond just happens to be in a very public place. One where we

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Selfishly, that’s why I continued to study for the Extea Class. Then I went and really blew it by becoming a MARS operator. ;) On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 23:10 Byron Servies wrote: > I am that ham. Once or twice a year, in the heat of the chase and > spinning the dial, I blow it, and hate myself

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Byron Servies
I am that ham. Once or twice a year, in the heat of the chase and spinning the dial, I blow it, and hate myself for months after. The real solution is for me to finally bother to study for and pass Extra, but still, that would be a tremendous feature for other fools like me. 73, Byron N6NUL On M

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Kenneth P Alexander
Repeat customers and customer loyalty are the foundations of any successful business. Their word of mouth recommendations are pure gold to any manufacturer, so engaging them in these discussions costs little and pays big dividends. >From what I have read, many of the wish list items are features

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: > > In the past few years, I have thought of a couple of desirable features that > should be fairly easy to implement in a modern transceiver ... being able to > program “transmit enable” for the amateur bands with one’s > license/frequency

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Me either. Wayne > On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Doug Person wrote: > > If the FT8 program is running on a separate "loosely coupled" computer that > is internal, I don't see a problem. > > Doug --KJ0F __ Elecraft mailing list Home

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
If the FT8 program is running on a separate "loosely coupled" computer that is internal, I don't see a problem. Doug --KJ0F On 3/25/2019 3:59 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Ummm ... I think there are two issues here: The algorithms, coding, and modulation schemes for transmitting and receiving what ha

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
(I learned this is Business 101.) ;-) Let us know how you do in Business 102. [kidding, couldn't resist] 73, Kev K4VD On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:08 PM Richards wrote: > Mr. Eric, perhaps you are fishing in the wrong pond ... > > To coin a phrase: Ask not why some hams buy your radio

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Of course. But we’re not going to tell everyone about our secret fishing spots. This particular pond just happens to be in a very public place. One where we get nibbles on every cast. 73, Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On Mar 25, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richards wrote: > > Mr. Eric, perhaps you

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Richards
Mr. Eric,  perhaps you are fishing in the wrong pond ... To coin a phrase:   Ask not why some hams buy your radios - ask why all the others do not. Asking members of this group who are pleased with your products is misplaced.   Instead, you should poll those who recently purchased, or who co

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's end the "Will there be a K4?" , "Touchscreen" and related threads now. Very interesting suggestions and comments, but we are wy past the reasonable number of allowed posts on a topic :-) . I was tied up most of the day here and just now got back on reading my email.   Wow!

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Eversole
Touch screens on something in the K3 form factor are of little use... Also own 7100 and that screen is troublesome to use and makes me wish I had gone with K3X and another separate 2m/440 FT8 mode would mean many firmware updates plus not clear how you get all the useful display information... it

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Edward R Cole
Page Two: of my K4 ideas. After writing my last post on this topic, it dawned on me the K3 architecture already uses a separate screen box which is the P3. So just expand that to being a touch screen controller with P3 embedded. Then its a option for those that want one. Main radio remains

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bill Johnson
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:15 PM To: Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Inquiring minds want to know: What would you all like to see as a ?K4?

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
It is easy to run FT8 or other digital modes on a Raspberry PI. Very inexpensive and very small. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 3/25/2019 1:55 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote: >> I'm sure that having FT8 as a choosable mode in a K4 would be a po

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2019 1:55 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote: I'm sure that having FT8 as a choosable mode in a K4 would be a popular idea. I think it's a terrible idea, if for no other reason that Joe Taylor's modes have always evolved over the years to make them better. Also, it's trivially easy

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Fred Jensen
Ummm ... I think there are two issues here: The algorithms, coding, and modulation schemes for transmitting and receiving what has come to be known as FT8, and separately, the source code to implement all of that.  The second is subject to the terms of the GPL V3 license, the first would not se

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Raymond Sills via Elecraft
find it fun to be able to send and receive RTTY and PSK31 with my KX3. 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211FN20kg -Original Message- From: Neil Zampella To: elecraft Sent: Mon, Mar 25, 2019 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 FWIW .. the FT8 code is not 'open source' it is und

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Even if it's just an application installed into an integrated computer? This would not be folding the source into other code. It's just installing it into a computer that happens to be inside another device. It wouldn't be firmware. It would be the same as when I run it on my Raspberry Pi. Do

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Lamont
On 25/03/2019 00:14, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > Inquiring minds want to know: > What would you all like to see as a “K4” ? Something like the Flex / Anan SDRs, but with RX performance to match the K3S. So maybe a 24-bit direct-sampling SDR, if such a thing is even possible, with a op

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2019 6:15 AM, Morgan Bailey wrote: SO2R with out ground loop problems ..or Rock solid SO2R solution...for k3s or other radios. I have the MK2R+ and I want a better solution. Simple solution -- implement proper bonding in your station. Described here http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pd

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Edward R Cole
Re: K4 with touch-pad. Not all will want that. I suggest it made as and add-on accessory in matching cabinet and include spectrum display (of course). On the main radio a simple screen on/off switch to go from manual controls to touch-screen. Maybe it could do double-duty as remote panel wi

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Neil Zampella
FWIW .. the FT8 code is not 'open source' it is under the General Public License v3.   According to the GPL v3 FAQ: "You cannot incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system. The goal of the GPL is to grant everyone the freedom to copy, redistribute, understand, and modify a program. I

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
The P3 is far superior to the spectrum display on the 7610? In what way? Are you sure you understand how to configure the 7610 display? Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 8:51 AM, K8TE wrote: I will visit a friend to operate his station again for the CQ WW WPX SSB Contest this coming weekend. We use t

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
I think you misunderstand open source. Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 7:37 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: "integrated FT8" will never happen. If I'm not mistaken, FT8 is open source and incorporating that software with its licensing requirements could expose Elecraft to all sorts of exposure; as their so

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread K9MA
The top of my list would include a really effective noise blanker.  Those of us who don't live way out in the countryside are often plagued with power line noise, which a good noise blanker can largely eliminate. Many older transceivers have noise blankers which are very effective on impulse no

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
1.) The K3s and P3 combined in one box. 1.) A 7" touch screen with spectrum display, fully configurable for operations and with access to setup menu. 2.) The hybrid analog/digital technology of the K3s. It's so good as it is I would hate to see it change. 3.) Options for 4 meters, 2 meters

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
This would be well suited for the use of SNMP. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:59 AM, Mike Markowski wrote: > > Eric, > > On the computer side of things, how about: > > 1. Ethernet, socket-based communication with rig. Imagine AUTO INFO > replies direct to IP/port! No more clashi

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Put a web server in the K4, and control it that way via IP... Also put in JSON for radio status, and add some IP based controls for everything. 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 3/25/19 4:59 AM, Mike Markow

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Hi Jim, Thanks for the detailed response! 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 3/24/19 7:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/24/2019 4:41 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Have you found a good speaker for the K3?  If so,

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Walter Underwood
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: > > Also put in JSON for radio status, Yes, that would be lovely. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: htt

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread K8TE
I will visit a friend to operate his station again for the CQ WW WPX SSB Contest this coming weekend. We use these opportunities to motivate and train new contesters. His main rig is an IC-7610. I will bring my KPA1500 to substitute for his 600 Watt amplifier and tuner since neither provides the

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Morgan Bailey
SO2R with out ground loop problems ..or Rock solid SO2R solution...for k3s or other radios. I have the MK2R+ and I want a better solution. On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 01:08 Martin Sole wrote: > Well since you asked and made this sort of official, here's a few > things, though in no particular order of

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread rich hurd WC3T
"integrated FT8" will never happen. If I'm not mistaken, FT8 is open source and incorporating that software with its licensing requirements could expose Elecraft to all sorts of exposure; as their software is NOT open-source. At least I believe I read that somewhere. That's my belief.Sort o

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Gordon LaPoint
I would love an SDR (I have an ANAN-10e) with a front panel and the software for the computer, best of both worlds.  I have an Apache Labs ANAN-7000 DLE Mk2 (without computer) on order, but would love to replace that with the K4, that is full SDR with dual ADC's like the ANAN-7000. I have a K2

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Mike Markowski
Eric, On the computer side of things, how about: 1. Ethernet, socket-based communication with rig. Imagine AUTO INFO replies direct to IP/port! No more clashing programs. 2. Everything controllable by commands (like RF gain). 3. Info directly gettable. E.g., no need to 'decode' display. 4. Sta

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread hdv
-19 12:33 (GMT+01:00) Aan: John Stengrevics Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Martin Sole Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 And my little add — VHF/UHFAndyG8TQH> On 25 Mar 2019, at 11:30, John Stengrevics wrote:> > I would add to that:  Significantly improved noise

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Andy McMullin
And my little add — VHF/UHF Andy G8TQH > On 25 Mar 2019, at 11:30, John Stengrevics wrote: > > I would add to that: Significantly improved noise blanking and noise > reduction. > > John > WA1EAZ > >> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Martin Sole wrote: >> >> Well since you asked and made this

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread John Stengrevics
I would add to that: Significantly improved noise blanking and noise reduction. John WA1EAZ > On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Martin Sole wrote: > > Well since you asked and made this sort of official, here's a few things, > though in no particular order of merit: > > Integrated 7” (or bigger)

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Bert Craig
I'm in the same boat with a "slush fund" specifically created for a loaded CW-optimized K3S. However, two factors keep me from pulling the trigger on that purchase. The main subject re. the possibility of a K4 and the fact that my K2/100 performs so darn well. Additionally, I personally find th

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Martin Sole
How many can they sell is probably a big question. I would suggest there are 3 main groups of amateur radio buyers: 1. Will always buy the newest greatest Elecraft (Kool Aid guys) 2. Already have a K3(S) whatever, fully loaded, good enough, not looking to buy new. 3. Wouldn't buy K3S because..

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
1. A bitmapped display, so that it could be updated with the software, and would support soft keys. 2. A touch screen. Whether to go this way is a hard call. Many operators hate them. But given that there are many good reasons to keep the same form factor, it gets harder and harder to cram all

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Martin Sole
Well since you asked and made this sort of official, here's a few things, though in no particular order of merit: Integrated 7” (or bigger) panadaptor with touch screen. ‘Proper’ band stacking registers. Equal sized vfo knobs for A and B. Individual mode buttons. AGC, NB, NR all with front p

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-24 Thread Barry
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:15 PM To: Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Inquiring minds want to know: What would you all like to see as a ?K4? ? Eric elecraft.com __ Elecraft maili

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Joan via Elecraft
I don’t know about a future ‘K4’, but I do know that when Wayne [et al] put your minds to designing a ‘KX4’, you might ponder a high res (possibly colour) display which could be remapped at will in firmware updates and be capable of displaying a spectral waterfall and more than 7 characters of t

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2019 4:41 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Have you found a good speaker for the K3?  If so, which one is it? For any serious operating, I always use headphones. Speakers are for casual monitoring. If I were to recommend a speaker, it would be: 1)for one with very smooth frequency response

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Gerry Hull
Not discussed here is the fact that Elecraft is foremost a business. A first rule of business is don’t announce new products if you have current products to sell. Announcing a K4 while there are K3s to sell would kill K3s sales. That said, Elecraft would not remain in business if they were not i

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-24 Thread K9FD
4, 2019 7:15 PM     To: Elecraft list     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4     Inquiring minds want to know:     What would you all like to see as a ?K4? ?     Eric     elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http:

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-24 Thread Barry
e. Ted, KN1CBR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:15 PM To: Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Inquiring minds want to know: What would you

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
I have a pair of those... Think I'll drag them out! Thanks! 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 3/24/19 5:16 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, Shortly after I got the K3 and well before the SP3 was introduced, I

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
I should have seen that coming... :) 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 3/24/19 5:10 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: SP3 :-) Eric elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S On M

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread kevinr
Hi Eric,    I think one feature would be a built in single board computer.  One with enough horse power to run a Linux OS.  It needs a 1000 baseT connection to the outside world so it can act as another server on your home network.  The advantage being you could write all the necessary driver

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread HB
160 – 440 would be awesome! Satellite work in one box. An all mode 2m, 220, 440, 23cm rig would also be nice – 100 watts. Hank K4HYJ From: Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 8:30 PM To: Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft; Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 All band 160

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
On Behalf Of John Stengrevics Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:39 PM To: Michael Walker Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Cardinal rule of business: New products, new products, new products. John WA1EAZ __

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Bill Frantz
I would like to see radical modularity. Having more than two receivers would allow diversity receive while monitoring other frequency(s). Separating the tuner from the radio would allow locating the tuner close to the antenna. Multiple tuners might be needed for widely separated antennas. Being

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Bill Johnson
Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:15 PM To: Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Inquiring minds want to know: What would you all like to see as a “K4” ? Eric elecraft.com __ Elecraft ma

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/24/2019 5:05 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Consider giving it/them to a new, hopefully young, ham with the > condition that when he/she is done with it, she/he finds a new, > hopefully young, ham to give it to.  Give it with a log, each recipient > enters their data, emails you, and passes it on w

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Shortly after I got the K3 and well before the SP3 was introduced, I found a pair of Radio Shack Minimus speakers in black which have worked well with my K3. I picked them up at a 2nd hand store for $5, so keep your eyes open for small, efficient, unpowered "Hi-Fi" speakers at a bargai

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Inquiring minds want to know: What would you all like to see as a “K4” ? Eric elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mai

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
It might not be fair for me to comment. I'm a KX3 user and it is used out in the field. That's mostly because there's no better full-featured, portable rig on the market. KX2, some compromises that some are willing to accept. The KX3 is king on the picnic table. On the other hand, I've had no real

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
SP3 :-) Eric elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On Mar 24, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: > > Jim, > Have you found a good speaker for the K3? If so, which one is it? > > 73s and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) __ Elecraft ma

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Fred Jensen
Consider giving it/them to a new, hopefully young, ham with the condition that when he/she is done with it, she/he finds a new, hopefully young, ham to give it to.  Give it with a log, each recipient enters their data, emails you, and passes it on with the log when they're done with it.  I've d

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Jim Brown
Exactly right, and I have as much respect for Wayne and Eric for their well developed business and marketing judgment as for their great engineering. I started reading this reflector when I bought a loaded used K2 in 2003 (I was running my own small biz in those days, and didn't have time to bu

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Peter Dougherty
ssage- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Stengrevics Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:39 PM To: Michael Walker Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 Cardinal rule of business: New products, new produc

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Gary Smith
I have K3 #202. It has all the upgrades possible to the K3 including the new PA, everything. It is covered on a shelf waiting for the day I need it if the K3s is being repaired. Same connections, a 3 minute swap job, done. I have my daily runner; K3s #10622 which has minus the 2M module, eve

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Jim, Have you found a good speaker for the K3? If so, which one is it? 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 3/24/19 1:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/24/2019 12:29 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: My current K3 is to

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread John Stengrevics
Cardinal rule of business: New products, new products, new products. John WA1EAZ > On Mar 24, 2019, at 7:28 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > Will there be a K4? > > It comes down to economics and the all mighty dollar. > > Will hams buy enough radios for them to be economical to fund developmen

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Michael Walker
Will there be a K4? It comes down to economics and the all mighty dollar. Will hams buy enough radios for them to be economical to fund development, manufacturing and pay staff? Economics 101. Mike va3mw __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread John_N1JM
I'll second that, too. John N1JM wayne burdick wrote >> it's over 25 lbs I'm not interested. Was never so happy as the day I sold >> that 57 lb TS-990S. > > > > > > > > > Amen, brother. You’ll never see a home-brew rig weighing more than about > 12 pounds in my shack. > > Wayne > N6KR

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Michael Murphy
I bought my K3 in December only to see the K3s come out at Dayton. However I did do the upgrade which still keeps my receive on par with a K3s (maybe not totally on par but very close). The state of the art is such that even if you buy a K3s today and a K4 comes out at Dayton, you still have a to

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread w5sum
I think I will take my finger off the trigger on that $6000 sale and wait until after June LOL Ronnie W5SUM From: Ed K1EP Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:42 PM To: w5...@comcast.net Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4 On Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 13:16 wrote

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Ed K1EP
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 13:16 wrote: > Before I spend money on a K3S, I’m just curious.. is a K4 in the planning > stages? I bought my K3 and unpackaged it and just days later the K3S was > announced. I was livid.. LOL > Please buy a K3S ASAP!!;-) __

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Doug Person
My main radio is an IC-7610. Nice screen, spectrum display built in. Cost effective for what you get. However, I miss my K3. There some things that other radios just can't seem to do as well. Right now, my next radio purchase will be the K4 - when ever that is. I'm convinced it will happen. It

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Edward R Cole
Someday! But the K3s is still new to the marketplace and Eric and Wayne (aka Elecraft) are in a "for-profit" enterprise. I suspect their business plan specifies a target number of sales to make a new product "successful". Most likely that will be a few more years to arrive. What could move

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2019 11:13 AM, Alan Corbeth wrote: I really want to join the Elecraft Family, but the K3 is aging and I feel a major upgrade must be on the table. Icom, Flex, and now Yaesu have recently introduced new high tech models. Gee -- the two K3s I bought in 2008 were updated about 3 years a

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2019 12:29 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: My current K3 is to die for on CW... AND on SSB, thanks to the built-in EQ for both transmit and receive, the excellent audio processing, the excellent receiver, including the range of roofing filters. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread David Olean
Some people go through radios like eating popcorn. I am sort of the opposite animal.  I too bought a K3 about three weeks before the K3S was announced. I suspected something was going on when I discovered that there was a new synthesizer in my new K3. I was not too upset at all. Anyway, I now h

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
> it's over 25 lbs I'm not interested. Was never so happy as the day I sold > that 57 lb TS-990S. Amen, brother. You’ll never see a home-brew rig weighing more than about 12 pounds in my shack. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list H

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Mike Flowers
I bought my K-Line K3-P3-KAT500-KPA500 used and it’s met all my DXing needs, and I’ve not missed any ATNOs if I was around to work them. Upgraded the Synth cards and had the gold pins installed and that’s it. It’s been the best rig I’ve ever owned. I flirted with the idea of a K3s, but just

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Macy monkeys
Do you think the 'K4' will have a touch display? Seems to be all the rage nowadays. Yaesu's 3D display looks intriguing. Whatever the K4 turns out to be, if it's over 25 lbs I'm not interested. Was never so happy as the day I sold that 57 lb TS-990S. John K7FD > On Mar 24, 2019, at 12:16 PM, V

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Bill Frantz
Eric spoke at our club last month. I asked him about any upcoming announcements and he just smiled and remained silent. I greatly appreciate the fact that Elecraft works hard to make the newest and greatest retrofittable to the older radios. I have upgraded everything in my K3 to the K3S level

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Now that I have owned a K3 for a few years, I have what the new folks don't have, K3 experience... Here is my take on this, now that I have some experience under my belt... How much better can Elecraft make a K4, as compared to a K3? I am already atmospheric noise limited, so sensitivity is no

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Of course they can't say, since it would shut off sales for the K3S. I added new synthesizers to my K3, but didn't feel that the other stuff justified buying a new rig. But that is for everyone to decide for themselves. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qs

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Chip Stratton
Seems like you need to decide what you want to do with a radio, which radio will do best for what you have to spend, and get that radio. Why wait around for something that might or might not be in the future and may or may not fit your needs better in some incremental way? You will never know if a

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread levandowski
I've been a dedicated Elecrafter for well over a decade. I've built and owned all the radios - sometimes more than once - plus the KXPA100, and many other products. Wayne should look at my purchase history records. But I reached the point where I got tired of orange screens so I sold everythi

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-24 Thread Alan Corbeth
I am in the same boat. I really want to join the Elecraft Family, but the K3 is aging and I feel a major upgrade must be on the table. Icom, Flex, and now Yaesu have recently introduced new high tech models. On one hand I am ready to purchase a new K3s, but will be very unhappy if shortly the

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