Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:02:17 -0500, you wrote: Both slow and fast hardeners proclaim they are not for clear coating. Is there a reason? Or is that from whence the age yellowing comes from? Seems to me the 105 is probably useless without the hardening catalyst. The 207 hardener is for clear

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2012 04:04, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: To buy the crank code-wheel new is not that cheap ($100) but there ought to be many in the junkyards now. The correct pickups are less likely to exist, but those are $17. Since the requirement is that its ferrous, I seen no

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Claude Froidevaux men...@bluewin.ch wrote: It was kind of a moan yes... I had it really long time, I was sure it was the transformer that vibrate... but in fact it was simply the transformer fixation that was loose (connected to another metallic plate,

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Could be, but it may just be the effect of unbalanced transformer flux from the SCR control. If they have the SCR/Triac on the primary of the transformer, then this is almost certain to unbalance the flux. Has it always

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:39:17 -0500, you wrote: That all fits it to a T Mark. I don't even recall the brand name after all this time its likely moot anyway. I have looked a bit at the local boat shops without finding

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Well, based on the theory that he doesn't run the clock while you are fishing, I should be several years ahead, because I've sure done a lot of it. A decade in the Black Hills, and 2 on the San Juan River in NM. Yeah,

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:02:17 -0500, you wrote: Both slow and fast hardeners proclaim they are not for clear coating. Is there a reason? Or is that from whence the age yellowing comes from? Seems to me the 105 is

Re: [Emc-users] running PyCAM (dev) under Windows (was: Text on rounded button.)

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi Erik, sorry - this thread slipped out of my sight for ten days ... Am Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:18:50 -0500 schrieb Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: Ok, got pycam going on linux. A couple things.. Generate toolpath generates a flat toolpath, it requires generate all to generate the curve.

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 November 2012 08:33:05 Steve Blackmore did opine: On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:02:17 -0500, you wrote: Both slow and fast hardeners proclaim they are not for clear coating. Is there a reason? Or is that from whence the age yellowing comes from? Seems to me the 105 is probably

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 November 2012 09:14:56 andy pugh did opine: On 23 November 2012 04:04, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: To buy the crank code-wheel new is not that cheap ($100) but there ought to be many in the junkyards now. The correct pickups are less likely to exist, but those are

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 November 2012 09:31:27 Mark Wendt did opine: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Well, based on the theory that he doesn't run the clock while you are fishing, I should be several years ahead, because I've sure done a lot of it. A decade in

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Seems to me a resolver would be the best choice for position on start up. Velocity could be derived also. A resolver on the cam and crank could tell you the next piston to reach tdc. On Nov 23, 2012 8:30 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 23 November 2012 09:14:56 andy pugh did

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2012 14:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The target wheels we have on our engines are _not_ ferrous. They are a magnetic track and the crank sensor has no internal magnet. (I can't find that actual sensor on the Allegro site). For a hall sensor to work, there must be

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2012 15:22, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to me a resolver would be the best choice for position on start up. This is the car industry. Cost is everything. They probably use the one-wire sensor purely to save the extra wire and connectors that a quadrature sensor

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
not everyone andy :) 15 yrs as an auto tech im actually understanding of what you are trying to do. however i do not have an immediate application to justify your time :( but thanx for sharing. I have wondered why machines dont follow the same stategy as autos involving rotational positioning --

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Dave Caroline
Car engines are unidirectional Unless you fit a Bolinder or other boat engine The reverse detection is probably only an error signal Dave Caroline -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
transmissions , differentials and wheels are not :) On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: Car engines are unidirectional Unless you fit a Bolinder or other boat engine The reverse detection is probably only an error signal Dave Caroline

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2012 16:09, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: Car engines are unidirectional Unless you fit a Bolinder or other boat engine The reverse detection is probably only an error signal I thought I explained this already? The bidirectional sensors are for start-stop

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I, too, find this thread interesting. -- dos centavos -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
you did i was just saying that there are many similar systems requiring racking and a carte blanche statement would not apply :) nor the probably an error statement which is pure speculation not based in experience On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 23

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Dave Caroline
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 November 2012 16:09, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: Car engines are unidirectional Unless you fit a Bolinder or other boat engine The reverse detection is probably only an error signal I thought I

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
actually accuracy is needed as it has to pick up thta position on fire up :) it is also to note that several reversible sensors of identical or similar design are found everywhere on autos. this is not a dissertation just point to the larger world. i think andy is trying to feel whether we are

Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf + 5i25 + 7i76 configuration failure

2012-11-23 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Chris, the missing serial port is our doing. I turned it off trying to get anything to work. Linuxcnc will not start w the 7i76x2 either (and turning down the stepgens/serial/etc to get it to work on one 7i76). I dont know what the 'USRMOT command timeout' and 'waiting for s.axes' things mean.

Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf + 5i25 + 7i76 configuration failure

2012-11-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:17:27 -0500 From: Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt wrote: Looks like I need some way to deaden the chamber effect of the metal covers to keep them from amplifying the sound. If I hold my hands on the covers, the sound becomes almost non-existent. Well, there's your answer. maybe a rubber foot or grommet stuffed between the

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Seems to me a resolver would be the best choice for position on start up. Velocity could be derived also. A resolver on the cam and crank could tell you the next piston to reach tdc You check the price on a resolver, lately? The problem is a wound-rotor brushless

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Dave
Sounds like this could be a major move forward. I'm not wed to the full quadrature concept. This sounds like it is almost an absolute encoder? Or close? I've got to get back to working on an SSI absolute encoder interface now that I am back home. Julian was working on a SSI interface on the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc on windows

2012-11-23 Thread Dave
On 11/23/2012 2:48 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote: Surely Linuxcnc can be compiled for windows? http://www.tenasys.com/index.php/applications/case-studies -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a

Re: [Emc-users] cnc on windows

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2012 19:48, Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.tenasys.com/index.php/applications/case-studies Which leads to: http://www.tenasys.com/index.php/test-and-measurement We use that at work in all our test cells. It does work very well. If you look at the

Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf + 5i25 + 7i76 configuration failure

2012-11-23 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Ugh. This was a wild goose chase. After MUCH fiddling around, head scratching, and hair pulling we finally threw our hands in the air and punted. We 'stole' my dads Dell windows machine and put the hard drive of the linux machine in it. Fired right up. Ugh. So 'something' is up with the orig

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:07:41 -0500, you wrote: I read that as needing an additional coat or 3 of marine spar varnish on top for its additional UV protection. Eventually it will be so amber colored the wood will be hidden, which isn't exactly what I'd desire. Not just the finish - Problem

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 24 November 2012 00:22, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Oak goes gray. Eventually it goes nearly black. http://www.bodgesoc.org/Slaithwaite2/Hall.JPG The upper cross-beam and the smoke-hood verticals are about 500 years old, the main tie beam spent 3 years outdoors before the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Ben Potter
Stick it in a bucket with ammonia ^1) and it goes black pretty fast (overnight). First noticed (or so I'm told) in stables. Can get some interesting colouring effects with this - especially if you're just on the edge of sapwood. Most things change colour somewhat with UV, and there's a big

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Scott Hasse
Interestingly, this sort of sensor would have been helpful on my latest problem with the lathe spindle Z pulse encoder I wanted to run on a pulley at 3x the spindle rate, presuming there was software support for it. In my case the pulse length accounting would have had to have been in the 7i33

Re: [Emc-users] cnc on windows

2012-11-23 Thread Peter Loron
Why on earth would you want to run it under Windows? It comes as a pre-configred distro, easy to install. If you don't have a separate machine to run it on, then install it on another disk, or thumb drive, etc, and boot off of that when you want to run it. -Pete On Nov 23, 2012, at 11:48 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] cnc on windows

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
how do we keep getting this windows / mach stuff? isnt it linuxcnc? Its almost umm spam ! lol :) -- jeremy youngs -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread jeremy youngs
as to the autos variable reluctance is cheap and effective for things that arent too slow as voltage is a function of rpm in them . Hall effects require magnets and collect debris (as does variable reluctance) and are not as robust in my experience. Led/ collector is a fairly robust system with

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2012 00:21:24 andy pugh did opine: On 23 November 2012 14:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The target wheels we have on our engines are _not_ ferrous. They are a magnetic track and the crank sensor has no internal magnet. (I can't find that actual sensor on

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2012 00:38:21 jeremy youngs did opine: actually accuracy is needed as it has to pick up thta position on fire up :) it is also to note that several reversible sensors of identical or similar design are found everywhere on autos. this is not a dissertation just point

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2012 00:58:18 Steve Blackmore did opine: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:07:41 -0500, you wrote: I read that as needing an additional coat or 3 of marine spar varnish on top for its additional UV protection. Eventually it will be so amber colored the wood will be hidden, which

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Desoldering station minor repair

2012-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2012 01:07:19 Ben Potter did opine: Stick it in a bucket with ammonia ^1) and it goes black pretty fast (overnight). First noticed (or so I'm told) in stables. Can get some interesting colouring effects with this - especially if you're just on the edge of sapwood.