Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:54:13 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > Ummm... yeah, well, Brave is open source too... but it does use the > Chromium engine. You're right. I guess I was missed that after seeing the ad & payment stuff. (Why can't software stick to it's main purpose?) > That said - chromium is

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

One of the crucial reasons I still use Firefox is because it is Open Source, so I doubt I would switch to Brave (or Opera, or anything...). Thus I hope that FF stabilizes before it becomes unusable. And there are two ways it can become unusable: one is by crippling or removing long-standing

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Enterprise mailing list move this Saturday

Am I the only one to wonder why this Firefox/Mozilla mailing list is being moved to server(s) owned and operated by their chief competitor, Google? On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:40:37 -0400 Corey Shields wrote: > We are in the process of decommissioning the Mailman list server hosted at >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] [From: External] Re: Firefox and OneDrive

I do not store my browser bookmarks or configuration on *any* cloud server, as I don't think that any give me the privacy (or security) that I want. And I'm sure that some enterprises (given that it's called ESR, after all) would have similar concerns. So, if all these services were built in

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox and OneDrive

Firefox should have a *builtin* feature that allows the user to export bookmarks, settings etc. as a single file that is *securely* encrypted (not the old crackable ZIP thing). Then it could be stored in any cloud service (or local file server), and imported therefrom into another Firefox

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

How depressing. Not only is Firefox now less pleasant to use compared to pre-Quantum, it's becoming less useful, due to Web designers going back to the modern equivalent of the old Internet Explorer-only mindset. On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 11:14:33 -0600 Mike Kaply wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

Comments inline. On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 11:05:27 -0600 Mike Kaply wrote: > I appreciate your feedback and understand. > > For situations like this, we recommend the Firefox ESR to avoid getting > changes like this as they are being implemented. But eventually the changes -- whether good or bad --

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

Thane's posting gives voice to my recent dissatisfaction with Firefox. I have used Firefox since when it was still Netscape. And when it became Open Source I decided it was by far the most trustworthy browser around (especially given the existence of NoScript and the like). Starting even

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] WG: Restore Classic Print Preview Dialog Box UI in Mozilla Firefox

FTA: "Also the new Print Preview UI *lacks* a few features which were present in classic dialog box." So typical! Make it "better" by removing features. I wish people would stop designing systems that cater *only* to novices: it reduces expertise in the long run. On Thu, 25 Feb 2021

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Suggestions for hiding the horizontal bars at the top of the browser?

student computers and associate Flash files (.swf) to it so > they open automatically. > > https://www.sciencegeek.net/VirtualLabs/heat_metal.swf > > - > Jason Jackson > Computer Network Engineer > North Vancouver School District > >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Antw: Re: Adobe Flash

, some other company would have > > done that in just few months. > > Timo Pietilä > > On 16.1.2021 21.22, Paul Kosinski via Enterprise wrote: > > "This deprecation [of Flash] has been coming for many years, so no > one > > should be surprised." &

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Adobe Flash

temporary remote VNC access to a machine I had that could still run Flash). > From: Enterprise On Behalf Of Mike Kaply > Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:04 AM > To: Paul Kosinski > Cc: Mozilla.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Suggestions for hiding the >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Suggestions for hiding the horizontal bars at the top of the browser?

If the Flash plugin itself stops working, this is going to be hard on some "remote learning" situations. There are some universities that have used Flash to provide virtual laboratory experiments (e.g., https://www.sciencegeek.net/VirtualLabs/SpecificHeatLab.html from Iowa State University).

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Force FF to stop using "other bookmarks"

I agree, the current scheme is a time waster for *all* users. There should be to a preference like there is for where to save files. And the fact that it was closed as "won't fix" 13 (!) years ago suggests a disregard for ease of use issues. Paul Kosinski On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:0

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Icons and buttons in taskbar

The ESR branch of Firefox was started to provide the stability needed for enterprise deployment. But the rapid sequence of changes in mainstream Firefox in its pursuit of "Chromeness" -- which started well before Quantum -- seems to have made maintaining behavioral stability (i.e., lack of time

[Mozilla Enterprise] Deconstructing the Great Firewall of China

A very interesting article on the various techniques China uses to "control" Internet usage. https://blog.thousandeyes.com/deconstructing-great-firewall-china/ ___ Enterprise mailing list Enterprise@mozilla.org

[Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox vs Pulse Audio in a chroot environment

Perhaps other users have already run into this problem with Firefox ESR and Pulse Audio on Linux and solved it, but I am posting this here in case it might be helpful. Although most software with audio output via Pulse on Linux works nicely in a chroot environment, Firefox (ESR) doesn't, even the

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox ESR 68.4.1 released (following 68.4.0 released yesterday)

As long as it's kept *completely* isolated from the outside, Windows XP being out of support doesn't make it unusable. Sometimes old OSes need to be kept to run "obsolete" software which is no longer available or is tied to really expensive hardware. In a completely isolated system, the lack of

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Install/Uninstall/Update distribution

ESR > > 1c. Install "IE View WE" extension (buggy) > > wait users to use 60 for a bookmarks/history migration > > 2a. Uninstall "IE View WE" extension > > 2b. Uninstall Firefox 60 ESR > > 2c. Install Firefox 68 ESR > > > >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Install/Uninstall/Update distribution

Version 68 really should be able to read old database files from before version 60. Obviously the conversion is possible, since the two step upgrade works (I presume). Otherwise, I can easily see some users trying to go from (e.g.) 52 to 68, losing years of bookmarks and then saying: "Firefox is

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Naming the installation files

The Linux versions of Firefox have been named differently ("x86_64" vs "i686") for a long time, so it should be easy enough to name the Windows versions. I made a script some years ago to download both the Linux and Windows versions (plus their checksums and its signature) all at once from their

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Mozilla To Stop Supporting Sideloaded Extensions In Firefox

Maybe "deployment" is easier in some sense, but the massive change introduced by Quantum, which annihilated a large number of add-ons, has made it impossible to return to Firefox's previous functionality and usability (esp. the user interface). Thus the new state of affairs is that, although it's

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Autoupdate cannot be disabled anymore in mozilla.cfg

. James Pearson wrote: > Yes - although to make life easier, use the Enterprise Policy > Generator from: > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enterprise-policy-generator/ > > James Pearson > > Paul Kosinski via Enterprise wrote: > > > >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Autoupdate cannot be disabled anymore in mozilla.cfg

So the JSON file can be used on Linux to do this? On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:23:23 -0500 Mike Kaply wrote: > That is correct. That preference was removed. update can only be > disabled via policy. > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/managing-firefox-updates > > As far as your membership

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Moving Firefox to a faster 4-week release cycle!

I don't understand why a more rapid release cycle is good for *users*. Bugs, especially security bugs, obviously should be fixed quickly. But new features often tend to confuse users (many of whom can barely deal with existing features). I am pretty expert in using -- and developing -- software

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Comments in policies.json?

"Unfortunately JSON doesn't support comments." What were they thinking? Even XML supports comments. Is it legal to repeat the same name for a (string) value at the same level? For example: { "Comment" : "A comment", ... "Comment" : "Another comment", ... "Comment" : "A

[Mozilla Enterprise] JSON formatting

Since JSON files are becoming *the* way to pre-configure Firefox on Linux, it is important to be able to keep them in a readable format. Currently, it seems that they are stored as one line files with very, very, very long lines. This format, although having a simple and unambiguous syntax, is

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] (no subject)

the documentation. This is quite confusing, and needs clarification and cleanup. On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:31:36 -0500 Mike Kaply wrote: > The Firefox ESR has always supported turning off extension signing so > you can install local extensions. > > Mike > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] (no subject)

As a long-time Firefox user, I went to ESR because I prefer stability to new features, and I especially don't like gratuitous changes to the User Interface. The move to Tabs on Top was ugly: I think Google started it so that users would view the Web (and hence Google) as their computing

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox ESR Offline Patching solution.

Lot's of the methods these days for configuring Firefox seem to be Windows only. Is Linux Firefox being left out in the cold? On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:56:34 +0200 Alexandre GAUVRIT wrote: > Hi, > > There is also an Open-Source alternative to SCCM which can fulfill > your need, it's WAPT

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] ESR mailing list forwarding gives rise to DMARC "failures"

s to the list from a domain > with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy. > > Hopefully this solves the problem without affecting too many other > people. > > Mike Kaply > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:11 PM Paul Kosinski > wrote: > > > Yes, I know that SPF, DK

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Mozilla in Embargo countries

Have you searched for "ECCN number" with your favorite search engine? In any case, some countries might disallow the *importation* of software like Firefox. E.g., Isn't the TOR browser based on Firefox? On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:00:37 +0200 Dão Gottwald wrote: > I'm not a lawyer and not gonna

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] [EXTERNAL] PDF files are printed in the wrong orientation

Just what I wanted, another important feature (PDF display) being dropped from Firefox. If Chrome can do it, why can't Firefox? On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 19:03:25 + Jason Jackson wrote: > We experience the same issues. When I asked around, I was told that > it's a limitation of PDF.js and that

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] ESR mailing list forwarding gives rise to DMARC "failures"

the DMARC handler, modifies the "From:" address and adds "Reply-To:" like so: Paul Kosinski via bind-users Reply-to: Paul Kosinski The ClamAV users mailing list does something similar, also changing "From:", adding "Reply-to:", but also adding a "Cc

[Mozilla Enterprise] ESR mailing list forwarding gives rise to DMARC "failures"

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[Mozilla Enterprise] ESR mailing list forwarding gives rise to DMARC "failures"

tion about this format please see http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6591 . From: Paul Kosinski To: enterprise@mozilla.org Sender: "Enterprise" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:06:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Mozilla FF ESR -

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Mozilla FF ESR - Slack Support Group?

, not necessarily what they *do* do. But given revelations of what they *have* done, I find them hard to trust. On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:36:03 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On Thu Jul 11 2019 21:06:01 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Paul > Kosinski wrote: > > They do face recognition (even

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Mozilla FF ESR - Slack Support Group?

I don't see any spam on this list, but then I have set up a separate email address just for ESR. (And I set up separate emails for most such groups.) Also, I am always suspicious of aggregating, cross topic providers taking steps to fully preserve user privacy, rather than correlating data

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] New 68 feature: BITS update downloading

It seems to me that automatic update of *any* software would *not* be acceptable to some enterprises. Don't some enterprises run acceptance tests on a new version of software before deploying it? Even if the new version simply fixes a bug, rather than modifying overt behavior, changes can give

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] What the heck happened to my addons?

fox, but with > the power in the user's hands. > > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:19 PM Paul Kosinski > wrote: > > > I am appalled and dismayed by what has happened to Firefox in the > > past years. It has gone from being the obviously best browser to > > being unpleasant -

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] What the heck happened to my addons?

I am appalled and dismayed by what has happened to Firefox in the past years. It has gone from being the obviously best browser to being unpleasant -- and now, sufddenly, even dangerous -- to use. We use Firefox for two main reasons, it's Open Source, which give me more confidence that it can be

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Shockwave Flash plugin support for Firefox

The next question, of course, is when the various TV networks will stop *using* Flash to stream stuff over the Internet. (I wonder if it's just inertia on their part, of if Flash provides some features they demand?) On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:42:06 +0100 Romain Testard wrote: > Per

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Menu Button doesn't work in an Citrix ICA session after reconnecting to a disconnected session

Not sure this is related (as it's not Firefox specific), but I often have trouble with VNC connecting to a Linux session (both KDE and XFCE). Typically, if I go away from the VNC viewer window and come back, some keys don't behave properly. It's as if the virtual key on the target machine got

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] What Missing Policies are preventing you from migrating?

I have set up Firefox for a specific userid (Linux) with a proxy server that blocks everything, and then set some domains to bypass that "proxy server". But I don't know how easily this can be locked down within Firefox. Of course, you could set up an actual proxy server on the LAN that was more

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] FF60.1ESR Menu/preferences language set not working?

Did this change take place in the transition from ESR 52 to ESR 60? On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:51:29 +0200 Wolfgang Ratzka wrote: > Hi, > The preference used to set the language has recently changed from > general.useragent.locale > to > intl.locale.requested > > Hope this helps, >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Saved Passwords when Username and Passwords are on different pages

Splitting the Username and Password pages is not good for security if the site *only* takes you to the Password page for *valid* Usernames, since this reduces the total entropy of the login tokens. I wonder how many sites do this? On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:41:17 +0200 "Georg Pfahler"

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox 60b16 language setting

I really don't understand why Mozilla is so set on changing Firefox in so many ways that are backwards incompatible. Even Microsoft, with its almost total domination of the desktop, preserves a lot of backwards compatibility. It gradually phases out "obsolete" features, rather than precipitously

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Printing A4 PDFs on Letter Paper

I haven't tried an A4 page, but if I'm looking at a PDF with Firefox's builtin PDF displayer, I can do Print Preview and adjust the page to fit via Scale: Shrink to Fit. On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:29:31 + Jason Jackson wrote: > It's a common scenario to get a PDF document

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] multiple profiles/versions of firefox (was Re: ESR52 vs "modern" javascript)

The main reason I run different instances of Firefox as different users is *security*. If you simply run Firefox under one user with different profiles, they all see the same file system. This is *not* what I want, since Firefox might still have bugs that could allow nasty websites to do damage to

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] ESR52 vs "modern" javascript

On Linux, I quite regularly run multiple independent instances of Firefox -- sometimes different versions -- by running them as different users, with different home directories and hence different profiles. By means of sudo, I run them on the same display (and keyboard and mouse), with no logging

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR

"I however completely disagree with newer versions (of anything, hardware or software) that kill significant and valueable functionality." I agree wholeheartedly! Firefox 57 et seq are a big step backwards. On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:31:38 +0200 Andrei Boros wrote: > > > Could it

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Layout options in latest versions of FF

I agree *totally* with point #1 and #2! Text labels on the toolbar are much more understandable than cryptic icons. Also, the multi-language problem has long since been solved. Tabs should not be forced to be on top! I am convinced that Google did this in Chrome to de-emphasize the general

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Date of purge of XUL extensions at Addons site?

place to > go. > > Jorge > > [1] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-addons > > On 2/12/18 2:50 PM, Paul Kosinski wrote: > > Is Mozilla actually going to leave all users of ESR 52 out in the > > cold at the "end" of the ESR 52 cycle? I *hope* t

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Date of purge of XUL extensions at Addons site?

Is Mozilla actually going to leave all users of ESR 52 out in the cold at the "end" of the ESR 52 cycle? I *hope* that the non-WE extensions will still be available in an archive area, like older versions of Firefox are at "ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/". (Even Microsoft hasn't totally

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Upgrading your legacy add-ons by August 2018

Classic Theme Restorer is an add-on which I and many others find crucial for usability. What will the upgrade path for it be, or will there be a similar add-on to replace it? If not, Firefox will probably lose a lot of users to Chrome. On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:04:16 -0800 Shell Escalante

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Announcing the next Extended Support Release of Firefox - ESR60 with policy engine

I agree totally! I'm a retired computer scientist / software engineer who "administers" a very small number of computers on our home LAN. I was dismayed by the UI changes a couple of years ago, and am even more disturbed by the upcoming removal of XUL, which will make things like Classic Theme

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox ESR 52.3.0 doesn't work correctlly with Xvnc

test the issue using ESR 52.3.0 to avoid responses like "go away -- you're using a now unsupported version of ESR".) So, I'm still looking for ideas, or feedback from anyone who has also seen this problem. Thanks, Paul Kosinski ___ Enterpris

[Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox ESR 52.3.0 doesn't work correctly with Xvnc

rop-downs within Web pages (like combo boxes) DO work, however. This misbehavior occurs no matter if vncviewer is used from Linux or the TightVNC viewer is used from Windows. Any help in tracking this down would be appreciated. Paul Kosinski P.S. My previous posting on this was incomplete, a

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] MEGA Invitation

According to Google, MEGA is a Cloud Storage company run by the (in)famous Kim DotCom! On Wed, 31 May 2017 11:33:47 -0700 Charles wrote: > It seems jpelaez2...@gmail.com is a spammer. > > Can you ban him Mozilla Enterprise? > > From: MEGA > Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox future

of Windows they like less, they have little choice. If Firefox turns into a buggy clone of Chrome, guess what. On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:16:20 -0400 The Wanderer <wande...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2017-04-24 at 16:01, Jorge Villalobos wrote: > > > On 4/24/17 1:01 PM, Paul Kosi

[Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox future

I just installed Firefox ESR 52.1.0 to try it out and got a warning from Classic Theme Restorer that it will not work in ESR 59 et seq because the "XUL / XPCOM / legacy addon" support is being removed in 57. This would be a disaster from our point of view as the Classic Theme is the only way

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] URGENT!!!!! How do i know, if my web app is being used by a user having ESR release?

Where does Help->About get the "ESR"? Could there be a bit of Javascript that could retrieve this? On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:13:00 -0600 Kaply Consulting wrote: > There is no way to check the user agent and know 52 ESR from regular > 52. > > I guess you might be able to

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] OT: Duplicate messages from list

Actually, some of the duplicates were *triplicates* (or worse). On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:49:00 -0400 Paul Kosinski <mozi...@iment.com> wrote: > I'm on a Dovecot server (behind a Postfix MTA), and I too have gotten > a whole bunch of duplicates in the past few days. > > I

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] OT: Duplicate messages from list

te, > Tiago Marques Delboni > > tiago.delb...@almg.gov.br / 2108-7700 > GTI/GAC - Gerência de Aplicações e Suporte a Clientes > > Em 16/09/2016 00:00, Paul Kosinski escreveu: > > I've been seeing multiple copies too. Glad to know it's not a Claws > > Mail

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Server delivers old versions

I have gotten the impression, over the last dozen years, that many facilities that are intended to be helpful for naive users are helpful - 95% of the time. The other 5% of the time they make accomplishing a less naive task more difficult (or occasionally impossible). Since ESR installers are

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] OT: Duplicate messages from list

I've been seeing multiple copies too. Glad to know it's not a Claws Mail weirdness due to my switching to using IMAP and not yet doing fully automatic sorting into to the various IMAP folders. On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:48:15 -0400 "Andrew J. Buehler" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] How to increase length of Back/Forward dropdown

0 is somehow locked down and only works if omni.ja *isn't* modifed. On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 12:54:02 +0200 Ignaz Forster <ignaz.fors...@muenchen.de> wrote: > Am 23.07.2016 21:14, schrieb Paul Kosinski: > > Is there a way to increase the number of entries shown when you hold >

[Mozilla Enterprise] How to increase length of Back/Forward dropdown

Is there a way to increase the number of entries shown when you hold down (or right-click) the Back or Forward button? It's really annoying to have to click over and over to go back as far as allowed -- 50 in my case -- by browser.sessionhistory.max_entries. There was a MozillaZine posting back

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox proxy settings and distribution expanded

is desired on the Internet. So why do these Macbooks *need* to connect only through your proxy server, even when the student is at home? Paul Kosinski On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:52:37 -0400 Ross Pendleton <rpendle...@perkinsschools.org> wrote: > Guess I should expand a little on my topic. > >

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox proxy settings and distribution for students

(Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#Transparent_proxy) But clever students can probably still find a way around it using Tor or similar. Paul Kosinski P.S. Trying to prevent people from visiting Websites they want to visit has a long history of failures. On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:32:50

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Security Advisories for Firefox ESR

ar (Bug 1256194)" sounds like it could have security implications (if you copy and paste from the URL. Paul Kosinski On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:00:01 + enterprise-requ...@mozilla.org wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:23:05 +0200 > From: Sebastian Metzger